The Writer Who Fought Darkness. The Lore of ALAN WAKE! (pt. 2)

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  • @birdfurnace
    @birdfurnace Рік тому +129

    the Control/Alan Wake universe is probably some of the most well written intertwined story i've seen in a long time

  • @Viryl_TV
    @Viryl_TV Рік тому +108

    I think we all know that Barry is the real hero of this story

    • @macsmith2013
      @macsmith2013 8 місяців тому

      Absolutly, his rock concert was EPIC.
      Right up there with the Ashtray Maze on my "F++k yeah!" scale!

  • @heathergoebel1676
    @heathergoebel1676 10 місяців тому +9

    Barry wrapped in Christmas lights was so funny yet brilliant. He is the unsung hero!

  • @kyr58
    @kyr58 Рік тому +154

    The way you frame, ground, and humanize the lore and stories even as they interweave is marvelous! We’ll save the best seat by the fire for you, Storyteller.

    • @TiptoeTheTank
      @TiptoeTheTank  Рік тому +21

      Oh thank you! Save me a beer too.

    • @נווהמכלוף
      @נווהמכלוף 11 місяців тому +1

      I agree! Can't wait for the inevitable video on Alan Wake II

  • @enochgraham4957
    @enochgraham4957 Рік тому +98

    Sheesh, Tiptoe is feeding us WELL recently

  • @madamminalost
    @madamminalost Рік тому +34

    There is something so cool about Alan Wake, just how deliciously meta it got without it being mocking. Just a bunch of people going "Heck yeah, writing affects reality. Wanna see the darkness tornado we whipped up to stop our hero?"

  • @reedjos08
    @reedjos08 Рік тому +75

    My personal head canon/theory with the clicker is that its either Alans mothers love or the power of the memory that gives the clicker power, or at least thats how its justified in Zanes narrative. Like how a lot of altered objects gain power from superstion or myth. That fan that can suck the oxygen out of the room can do that because people believe fans are capable of doing it, so in that same way Alan's mothers story about what the clicker can do, and Alan's childish belief that it could do it, are what give it the power.

    • @TiptoeTheTank
      @TiptoeTheTank  Рік тому +21

      I love the idea of the "collective unconscious" creating altered items in this universe. It's such a cool concept. Alongside the idea of paranatural criminal groups working to create them with the power of group thought/belief.

    • @SuperRONDALE
      @SuperRONDALE Рік тому +5

      The game does say that anything belonging to his father took on mythological proportions in Alan’s mind

    • @Ryukushin
      @Ryukushin Рік тому +5

      So, I just want to add that the director let slip in an interview that Yes, the clicker was given to Alan from his mother who would tell stories to him as a child but the Clicker was supposed to encompass his Father according to the director… so I just realized something.
      Thats right, the director of the game says the clicker was a gift from his mom to banish the monsters at night , but it itself (the clicker) is the embodiment of Alans father, the director says “ the clicker was given to Alan by his mother when she told him , this clicker is from YOUR FATHER , it will banish the monster away!”
      Now think, after playing Alan wake 2, or Control AWE DLC, Who looks exactly like Alan Wake but is older then him… like a Father
      Zane , it’s Thomas! It all makes perfect sense that Alans dad wrote his son into the story or wrote his son i to existence , he writes Return(or was it initiation) WITH HIS SON. Wake was probably his moms last name. And do not forget who gave Alan the light switch in the first game? In a SHOEBOX, it was Zane!
      i know i sound crazy but I think I randomly figured that out , the director giving that detail is in the IGN Alan wake story so far video at 7minute mark

    • @TheLoveless26
      @TheLoveless26 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@RyukushinI've always strongly felt like Zane was Alans father from the first time i ever played. And it would make sense for Zane to write him in that way. He was a poet, Alan Following in his father's foot steps. A father reaching out across the veil to guide his son. The sins of the father carried by the child.. its so very poetic in nature. It makes so much sense.

    • @jameslilly3750
      @jameslilly3750 10 місяців тому

      ​@@Ryukushinbut now it turns out its all someone else story and he and thomas had been characters made in attempts to save the original. While the dark presence its just taking more each time. Or both being stuck in cycle of push and pull.

  • @peterholmes7440
    @peterholmes7440 Рік тому +59

    I’m gonna be honest, this series’s lore is **wild** and Tiptoe being here to explain us is very, very much appreciated.

  • @Xehanort10
    @Xehanort10 11 місяців тому +2

    32:18 Originally Scratch was just created to replace Alan until he could get out of the Dark Place but he was corrupted by rumours people spread about Alan being a serial killer who supposedly killed the people who became Taken in the 1st game.

  • @babyzzzzzzzz
    @babyzzzzzzzz Рік тому +1

    what a way to end the video, it gave me goosebumps fr

  • @jonathanmcneely8568
    @jonathanmcneely8568 Рік тому +5

    Did anyone else notice her making Alan jump on Agent Nightengale’s bed in the motel room?
    So adorable

  • @thatoneguy7765
    @thatoneguy7765 Рік тому +16

    What? No mention of the Eye of Sauron, the MOST powerful non-magic item in the game that only BARRY gets to use!

    • @TiptoeTheTank
      @TiptoeTheTank  Рік тому +5

      Sometimes I wonder if Barry isn't a paranatural entity.

  • @jonesy279
    @jonesy279 Рік тому +8

    Ah yes, Shadow Hartmann. Or as I like to call him, Shartmann.

  • @jamesabernethy7896
    @jamesabernethy7896 Рік тому +22

    I recently replayed the Alan Wake games and really enjoyed them. This lore was still great to listen to. Well structured, informative and you inject a lot of personality into it to keep it fun.

  • @JB2FROSTY
    @JB2FROSTY Рік тому +5

    Who would of thought that we would play as a naked Nightingale. All of our dreams came true

  • @apple8464
    @apple8464 Рік тому +11

    Tiptoe you magnificent being. Thank you for interspersing these stories beautifully, and with much respect (and disdain accordingly) for these characters. You are one of the best storytellers on this platform, and I can't wait for more of your magic!

    • @TiptoeTheTank
      @TiptoeTheTank  Рік тому +4

      I needed this comment today. Thank you!

    • @apple8464
      @apple8464 Рік тому

      You deserve it you glorious being! Keep rocking on!

  • @Zwork101
    @Zwork101 Рік тому +18

    This series has been amazing, thanks for putting it together!

  • @Tuaron
    @Tuaron 10 місяців тому +2

    Such a fan of your writing and delivery. This video really brought the game to life, but made so much make sense for me in a way that watching a playthrough failed to do. Consider me a big fan of this channel now, I've watched the Control vids and Death Stranding, will definitely check out others soon (maybe refresh myself on God of War as I play Ragnarok).

    • @Viryl_TV
      @Viryl_TV 10 місяців тому +2

      Thanks for your kind words (on this video and the others). We're glad you've been enjoying the content.
      Just wanted to say that Tip plans to do a lore series on GoW 2018 and Rag after she finishes the Alan Wake 2 vids. She adores them and is currently replaying them on stream. So plenty more binge-worthy videos on the way.

    • @Tuaron
      @Tuaron 10 місяців тому +2

      @@Viryl_TVThat's fantastic news. I look forward to all of those (though I may hold off on watching the Ragnarok one until I beat it, depending on timing - I've avoided spoilers for it so far, so I want to experience it as a player before someone explains what I missed). I'm also eager to check out the already produced videos on Legacy of Kain/Soul Reaver - it's a series I'd always been curious about, and these other videos have assured me I'm in for a treat.

  • @montlejohnbojangles8937
    @montlejohnbojangles8937 11 місяців тому +2

    God I can't wait to see the Alan Wake II follow-up to this series. It's all coming together babyyyyy

  • @TBDS1990
    @TBDS1990 Рік тому +4

    Omw!! I watched my husband play Alan Wake when it first came out, and I only recently started playing Control myself. To see how these to games are so masterfully weaved together, it's amazing!! So glad that you're here to tell these wonderful stories to us. We'd all miss out on so much beautiful stories without you.

  • @felixrowan646
    @felixrowan646 Рік тому +5

    This series of games is hands down my favorite modern take on the Cosmic Horror genre.

  • @robertrappaport3610
    @robertrappaport3610 Рік тому +7

    Cant’t wait for Alan Wake 2! Greats summary as always

  • @pinkshade9216
    @pinkshade9216 Рік тому +1

    These videos are amazing!!

  • @kingcrowbro2486
    @kingcrowbro2486 Рік тому +1

    9:50
    Absolutely. Bone. Chilling. Loved that sync'd up line read, and I *adored* this two part look into Alan Wake.

  • @Dallimar
    @Dallimar Рік тому +9

    Fantastic work as always.

    • @TiptoeTheTank
      @TiptoeTheTank  Рік тому +2

      Thank you! Alan Wake 2 better be completely off the rails...

  • @a.endarspears9601
    @a.endarspears9601 Рік тому +1

    Great work!

  • @joshfairbro1624
    @joshfairbro1624 Рік тому +2

    DUDE HOW ARE THESE VIDEOS COMING OUT SO FAST THANK YOU

  • @brayanrodriguez7096
    @brayanrodriguez7096 Рік тому +3

    found ur channel thanks to this control/alan wake lore videos and these are SO GOOD please keep it up I love these games and your videos are helping me a lot to understand the connection between them and a lot of lore I had missed to understand before

  • @awkwardoddballcreations1074
    @awkwardoddballcreations1074 Рік тому +8

    Allan helped make the coolest game ,10/10 the goat

  • @OverkillSamurai
    @OverkillSamurai Рік тому +3

    masterful. can't wait for more.
    gonna do a full rewatch when they're all out

  • @ryanedwards7487
    @ryanedwards7487 Рік тому +3

    I did always love the homage to Twin Peaks with Mr. Scratch. I still think David Lynch cribbed this video game and all of it's DLC for "Twin Peaks: The Return". Don't misunderstand me, I love that final season, but there are a TON of parallels between it and the DLC for Alan Wake.

  • @skattikus
    @skattikus Рік тому +3

    Can't wait for the next part of the Control lore!

  • @stargazer99
    @stargazer99 Рік тому +2

    I’m loving these videos! I only just watched the previous video yesterday! So good timing on my part I guess. I’ve always had my interest piqued by control, quantum break, and Alan wake. They’ve always seemed interesting. But your videos regarding control and now Alan wake has finally made full on want to start playing these games.

  • @johnkim7890
    @johnkim7890 Рік тому +2

    "Warriors torchbearers, come redeem our dreams! Shine a light upon this night of otherworldly fiends! Odin's might be your guide divorce you from the sane, Hammer's way will have its say rise up in their nammmee yeahhh~~ Oh memory and thought! Jet black and claweeed! Children of the Elder god!!! oohhh scourge of light upon the darrrkk!" that song made me a instant fan of the Old gods of Asgard, interestingly they remind me of the Poets of the fall hummm... coincidence? lol Ah I've been watching a lot of your lore videos as of recent and they are awesome! Thank you for covering one of my favorite games : ).

  • @ryanedwards7487
    @ryanedwards7487 Рік тому +2

    I can't wait for you to retell the Alan Wake DLCs as well....and keep this going. I can't tell you how excited I am for Alan Wake 2!

  • @nevertrumpfromthejump
    @nevertrumpfromthejump Рік тому +1

    Glad I found your channel and these Alan Wake / Control videos. I'm crazy about Control but bounced off Alan Wake. This helps me feel like I can still fully participate in the overall story and world they're building to. Thanks. Great videos.

  • @TerryB01
    @TerryB01 Рік тому +3

    Alright part 2 let's go! :D

  • @popump2617
    @popump2617 Рік тому +6

    Really hope my main man Barry shows up in Alan Wake 2

    • @TiptoeTheTank
      @TiptoeTheTank  Рік тому +2

      If there is no Barry, then we will riot.

  • @TheRIsForRizzo
    @TheRIsForRizzo Рік тому +1

    This is awesome! Thank you for taking the time to put alllll this together! ❤
    (for future reference, not to be super pedantic, the phrase is 'the whole gamut', not 'the whole gambit.' a gamut is the full or complete scope of something) Love your work, keep it up!

  • @skateroffortune
    @skateroffortune Рік тому +2

    Ive been waiting all week for this

  • @AngelDame17
    @AngelDame17 Рік тому +6

    This whole series is a TRIP. Woo!

  • @lordjlo817
    @lordjlo817 Рік тому +2

    Beautifully done! Looking forward to the next part

  • @trellified
    @trellified Рік тому +1

    This is such an outstanding analysis and summary of the intertwined games.

  • @ell-ell_elI
    @ell-ell_elI Рік тому +2

    The Queen of lore has blessed us!

  • @daphne8406
    @daphne8406 Рік тому +2

    An amazing story told in an amazing way ☺️ Thank you! ❤

  • @rainbowchaox5214
    @rainbowchaox5214 Рік тому +3

    Amazing!

  • @Darkclaw00
    @Darkclaw00 Рік тому +1

    if you are interested in the song, its Poets of the Fall - the Poet and the Muse

  • @vincentstuart9562
    @vincentstuart9562 Рік тому +3

    watching these to prepare for Alan Wake 2

    • @TiptoeTheTank
      @TiptoeTheTank  Рік тому +2

      I'm literally counting down the days. I'm so excited!

    • @vincentstuart9562
      @vincentstuart9562 Рік тому

      @@TiptoeTheTank Me too, I'm kind of a horror nerd so I've been all over a lot of your videos and videos from Gaming Harry

  • @iamjustsham1066
    @iamjustsham1066 Рік тому +2

    Love you guys writing do you have something out like book. Can't wait for you guys to write a game.

  • @DrMDHyde
    @DrMDHyde Рік тому +3

    YESSS! GOOD EATING TODAY! PRAISE BE LORE MADAM!

  • @SsgtTucker
    @SsgtTucker Рік тому +11

    Alan Wake 2 is too far away!!! And I hope they make a sequel to Control

    • @Viryl_TV
      @Viryl_TV Рік тому +8

      Remedy has confirmed a sequel to Control. And if I remember right also a spinoff Control game. I don't think either have any info yet though.

    • @SephirothinLEGO
      @SephirothinLEGO Рік тому +3

      AW2 is literally this months what are you talking about?

  • @themilkman400
    @themilkman400 Рік тому

    Very well put together video. Easy for anyone just starting to get into

  • @fabzinluzt
    @fabzinluzt 4 місяці тому

    U do an Amazing job with your scripts. Well done! :)

  • @BlainL64
    @BlainL64 Рік тому

    Your story telling is immaculate

  • @zeobuilder106
    @zeobuilder106 Рік тому +5

    I decided to play the games (wake and control) because of this serie but now I can’t watch it XD I’ll be coming back once I’m done

  • @abydosianchulac2
    @abydosianchulac2 Рік тому +2

    New here, and amazing video series. Curious about the assertions at the end, though, about not being able to create people/situations and the like. How can Alan write about that which he has no knowledge then? How can be create situations that influence the FBC if he doesn't know it exists, or have Zane cause him to write the Clicker/its abilities into existence? Did Agent Nightingale come into existence because of Alan's writing, or did such a person that matched what Alan wrote happen to exist and get roped into the plot? And is there any meaningful difference between those scenarios?
    I'd love to have AW2 go into the drafting process, too. If Alan wrote multiple drafts the DP rejected and forced him to alter, at what point does any writing/art have an effect on the world? Does the influence then come from the act of writing, or from the artist's decision that the writing is done?

    • @Viryl_TV
      @Viryl_TV Рік тому

      I believe the popular theory is that he has some form of clairvoyance due to his paranatural ability, but he doesn't know that. So in his mind he believes he's coming up with the fictional characters and events, but he's actually seeing glimpses of reality. At least that's how I understood it.

  • @emer4ldlord
    @emer4ldlord Рік тому +2

    Welp already watched part1 might as well start pt2

  • @christinascott3073
    @christinascott3073 Рік тому

    Great video but I really wish you had mentioned in more detail the writer and signal DLCs and American Nightmare but still great video

  • @blkflwer6592
    @blkflwer6592 Рік тому +1

    Not bad for being down with the Rona tip ❤

  • @TrueDiox
    @TrueDiox 11 місяців тому

    Chiiiiilllllssssss! Also, just IMAGINE if the spot of Alex Casey in this universe had gone to Max Payne instead (as I'm sure was the original intent). Just how amazing that would have been!

  • @cooldog171
    @cooldog171 6 місяців тому +1

    Thanks!

    • @TiptoeTheTank
      @TiptoeTheTank  6 місяців тому

      Oh wowza, thank you for your generosity!

  • @iarmandov2
    @iarmandov2 Рік тому

    Girl the way you say Nightingale, reminds of Jennifer Nightingale from Grace and Frankie haha 😂

  • @emrahcoban4488
    @emrahcoban4488 Рік тому +1

    You missed a thermos in the run to climb the dam

  • @josuepviana
    @josuepviana Рік тому +2

    Hey, GamingUniversity just dropped a video about a very interesting theory that I believe would be a great topic to discuss too!

  • @Rupert_Astralnauta
    @Rupert_Astralnauta Рік тому +4

    God dammit Tip, get some rest!

  • @delmattia96
    @delmattia96 Рік тому +3

    Wow! It is never enough ahahahah

  • @mukamuka0
    @mukamuka0 4 місяці тому

    29:45 Oi...oi....Is that teabagging? Alan teabagging agent nightingale? haaha

  • @ScaricoOleoso
    @ScaricoOleoso 11 місяців тому

    Nightingale though... Show me your badge. Oh, you don't have one? Well then, you're under arrest for impersonating a federal agent, on top of all the ridiculous shooting at people.

  • @Hk121394
    @Hk121394 7 місяців тому

    This is basically SCP without ancient conspiracies...for now I assume.

  • @maiwald
    @maiwald 11 місяців тому +1

    Thanks

    • @TiptoeTheTank
      @TiptoeTheTank  11 місяців тому +1

      CREAM DADDY'S BLESSINGS UPON US!
      Thank you for such generosity.

  • @ArkaneConstruct
    @ArkaneConstruct Рік тому

    Cant wait for the Alan Wake 2 video 😂

  • @andrewmah2962
    @andrewmah2962 Рік тому

    Use The Force, Emil Hartman!!

  • @Kaminsod1
    @Kaminsod1 9 місяців тому

    Damn guess I really need to play these games

  • @gamaarmendariz1426
    @gamaarmendariz1426 Рік тому +1

    Can you do a Frostpunk lore video?

    • @Viryl_TV
      @Viryl_TV Рік тому

      It's never been suggested. Though nothing is guaranteed, I'll add it to the list 👌

  • @aettic
    @aettic Рік тому

    I thought at first that your logo was a stylized shark with a jetpack, then I realized it's a lady.

  • @eliotharrell6061
    @eliotharrell6061 Рік тому

    I’m sorry but a character in a 2010 game calling the organization that wasn’t irl known to exist until 2019 is so cool to me

  • @aquelesousa
    @aquelesousa Рік тому

    Next ones are Max Payne and Quantum Break, right?
    Please?

  • @jonathonpolk3592
    @jonathonpolk3592 11 місяців тому

    Needs updating now that AW2 was released.

  • @mehcutcheon2401
    @mehcutcheon2401 Рік тому

    Jumpin on his bed! Lmao

  • @ZeroEscape2074
    @ZeroEscape2074 11 місяців тому +1

    gigachad barry, my man!

  • @TheAlkhemiaStudio
    @TheAlkhemiaStudio Рік тому

    Alan Wake Literary Universe

  • @Caretzz
    @Caretzz Рік тому

    gj!

  • @ilovesteakandfries
    @ilovesteakandfries Рік тому +2

    sooo alan created the hiss?

    • @TiptoeTheTank
      @TiptoeTheTank  Рік тому +4

      No! At least, I don't think so. Alan can't create. But he can "nudge" things together. Influence them.
      The Hiss existed in Slidescape 36 (Polaris and Hedron's homeworld) in a limited form. Hedron/Polaris had suppressed them. But through Wake's writings, they found Trench during a fated expedition. Through Trench, a doorway was opened and the Hiss came to Earth at that specific time. Which led to Jesse Faden entering the scene in 2019.
      More to come! More will be explained very soon in Control part 2. 😉😉😉

    • @abydosianchulac2
      @abydosianchulac2 Рік тому +1

      Hmm, but then how could Alan know about the hiss to write about them/influence them? Is there a meaningful difference between creating something from nothing and having the universe pre-arrange anything you might want to write about?
      This actually reminds me a lot of the expanded content around the _Myst_ / _Riven_ game series. The accompanying novels clarified the linking books couldn't create worlds, but they could link to worlds that matched the writing and already existed out in the infinite variety of worlds in the universe (links to worlds/"Ages" failed if the physics of the universe couldn't support the world as described). It was then difficult to tell if changes/damage/improvements to the writing would happen to the original world visited, or would realign the link to a world with an identical history but where the changes happened to spontaneously occur.

    • @ilovesteakandfries
      @ilovesteakandfries Рік тому

      @@TiptoeTheTank love your videos i’ve been binge watching them and i’m so happy you’re covering two of my favorite series.
      also, Yes! i remember reading a few files in control on the origin of polaris and the hiss but was confused on whether or not they were retconning or changing those orgins with the release of AWE expansion! thanks for clearing that up!

    • @ilovesteakandfries
      @ilovesteakandfries Рік тому

      @@abydosianchulac2 as for the part of your comment about the hiss. in alan wake one, the narrator(alan) seems to have a low omniscience so that could explain why he could possibly know about the hiss. orrrr maybe he doesn’t-maybe he simply just wrote in a broader context about the events of control and that in of itself nudged reality into the events of control itself.
      for the second part of your comment, it’s difficult to differentiate the two points, but fundamentally there’s a huge difference, alan isn’t able to create things out of thin air on the spot, however he has the ability to warp destiny in a way where he can write them into an experience, or change entire events itself. the abilities are two sides of the same coin but still completely different!

    • @Viryl_TV
      @Viryl_TV Рік тому +2

      A popular theory is that Alan is sort of clairvoyant without knowing it. So he believes he's coming up with fictional characters/events but he's actually seeing glimpses of reality.

  • @JB2FROSTY
    @JB2FROSTY Рік тому

    Why are you talking about death stranding and not alan wake 2
    U kind of swindled a sub out of me like what are you gonna do a review for AW2 in 13 years? I asked avalanche reviews the same thing. Its odd that yall both didnt talk about alan wake until a moment before the release of the sequel and now you're focusing on other titles when the sequel has been out and a lot of people subbed to you bc of these videos yet now youre not talking about it. I mean what are yall waiting for, alan wake 3?

    • @Viryl_TV
      @Viryl_TV Рік тому

      I can't speak for Avalanche Reviews, but we're waiting for the "Alternative Narrative" to release. If rumors are to be believed, it should come out soon with additional story, cutscenes and allegedly a new ending. Who's telling the alternative narrative? Zane? Mr. Door? Alice? Jesse Faden? Barry? No matter who it is it's sure to be important enough to include in the lore videos, and worth waiting a few weeks to include. Tiptoe likes having the full story before she starts her timeline, scripting, voiceover and editing. She does enjoy the Remedy-verse though and is excited to dive in, so AW 2 is definitely coming.
      I am sorry you feel "swindled" though, definitely don't subscribe if you're not enjoying the content. But feel free to bookmark the channel and check back in a couple weeks after the new narrative drops to hear Tiptoes take on it all👌

  • @nickkelly3199
    @nickkelly3199 Рік тому

    Algorithm comment

  • @TheDraco175
    @TheDraco175 Рік тому +3

    Why is Jake Gyllenhaal in the thumbnail?

  • @tranngochungdevwannabe
    @tranngochungdevwannabe Рік тому

    wake may as well just change carrier lol