I can't imagine how this world's Alex would react to the simulation. "On the good side, it does appear that this Typhon has gained the ability to process compassion and understand humanity. On the bad side, it seems to be an imbecile."
This channel is very underrated.. VERY VERY underrated. I spent hours listening to these stories once i found out about your channel. It's delivered in a clear way with proper storytelling unlike other videos I've seen. Thanks for making content like this!
I'm going to second this. I just found this today but it seems very good. I frequent a great many channels relating to alternate histories/ alternate universes, so this channel seems to have a lot of content that piques my interest. Keep up the good work. The coming future will have a use for minds like the one that cataloged this.
According to developer notes, the cause of the typhon outbreak was a scientist, Trevor J. Young, getting mind controlled by a Telepath when not wearing a psychoscope and freeing a mimic from containment
@@thediethrower1803 I'll actually debate this. What if the explosion didn't destroy the coral, or the typhon around the ship? Complete self destruct isn't a guarantee.
@@killstrike-zn1lv That's fair. That or the lobotomy plan are the only options though - since just leaving is probably what real Morgan did - and it did not help.
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I think I decided to abandon January's quest when I encountered Mikhaila and gave her the medicine she needed. I had turned right in the GUTS instead of left and abandoned the quest for the Arboretum to freely explore what I could and encountered her. January was like "how curious that you'd save her when she's going to die anyway when you blow up the station". I think that's when it really hit me that there were more survivors to save - and that January's plan was a sledgehammer where a precision tool would be better. I chose Alex's option for my first play-through thereafter, although I kept expecting him to backstab me.
@@dumbdumb3387 But if January caused the breakout in the first place it's kindof their own fault. Course if they DIDN'T then sadly they just had the right idea that obviously was not the one real Morgan went for.
I was, too, worried Alex would backstab Morgan because he was quite sus, but the way he talked to Morgan also felt like actual sibling love to me, so I did end up going with him both during the main choice aka nullwave, and at the very end.
I just played it and i did the same ending bc i didnt know that we would be given a chance to escape from Talos. I just wanted to save the people that were left.
Personally, i don't think January released the typhon. I think they escaped over time. They used the typhon and human subjects to make more typhon and then extract the exotic matter. There is a chance a typhon could survive the process and mimic a resource cube, then wait for the cubs to be moved out and sneak around the typhon detectors. Slowly more and more would escape and spread around the station. You have reports from people who see double, one worker replaced a coil only for that coil to melt when a current passed through, and reports of 'black shapes' scuttling about. They broken containment LONG ago, it was never contained. Then the moment struck where the typhon could attack, replicate, and spread all over the station.
this is what i got from it, the whole anatomy of typhon is to reproduce on its own, only one would need to "break out" to amass hundreds more, especially with all the staff there
There's an experiment in psychotronics where you can press buttons to coax a caged mimic into shapeshifting into various objects. A mug, a beaker, a microscope... it's all fun and games... then the mimic gets up close to the glass and shapeshifts into the Yu family portrait. THAT was a helluva moment. Not mindless aliens, they knew exactly who their jailers were all along, likely even since first contact. It was brilliant storytelling. I realized at that moment Morgan's karma was invariably pointing towards dying on the station.
@@Rutherford_Inchworm_IIIAnd considering what the game actually is, we know for certain that Alex found out about the Typhon intelligence as well. This is why he's attempting the endeavours in the game, he's not just basing the survival of the human race on a mindless beast. He's instilling hope into a vessel unbecometh of it, wishing for it to spread like the wildfire it actually is. Hope that the Typhon will feel pity for the humans, and curb their destruction.
I remember finding Danelle on my first play through. She was the first non telepath controlled human that also wasn’t that “cook” I found actually and it was such a relief to find “another” human for the first time, banging on that glass with the wrench and seeing her float into view. I love this game so much and it gave me so many good feelings and memories on a first play through, especially since I did not know the twist. it’s one of the games I wish I could experience blindly for the first time again.
Remembering that I was playing a videogame, I chose to kill Alex Yu. I figured that, as a Typhon, being told that I had essentially been captured and brainwashed into turning on my own kind would be engaging and terrifying in equal measures. The humans wanted me to empathize but all I felt was righteous fury at being used and abused... I wanted revenge, but more than that I wanted to do what was right. For MY people. ... On my second playthrough I chose to side with Alex Yu. Fuck the Typhon.
@@Illegiblescream kinda sorta... ...On a surface level. When you think about it, the Necromorphs, no matter the type, or species they were made from, are merely proxies for the Brethren Moons to consume more matter. To make sure that the convergence will occur, no matter what. The Typhon on the other hand? They don't seem to have a greater, quite frankly "Eldritch" in scale purpose in mind. Merely that they are unsympathetic organisms, that have a need to survive. In many ways, the Typhon could be seen as more primal than the necromorphs, and certainly less malicious than them. I suppose unlike the necromorphs, it was we who disturbed them, whereas you could argue the markers/moons disturbed us, to make us into a resource. Whereas we are more justified against our fight for survival in Dead Space, against a force we simply had no will against. we arguably dug our own burial ground in PREY. Ironically, both were caused in the pursuit of more knowledge however. Didn't originally intend to take a small comment and write a big chunk of text about it, but the more I wrote, the more compelling I felt the parallels actually ARE. So, thanks for unintentionally getting me to consider something I never would have otherwise, on a deeper level!
@ToeTruck but the people have already been killed or that's what i inferred. Besides it's enough that the Americans defining hero is an alien who would protected another species from its own kind, kinda like somebody kills human to protect the dogs species survival. Think about rhe narrative what if we are being brainshed to think we aew some other supposedly advanced species just so we can be evaluated on how much we are willing to kill our own kind to benefit said alien. If we reverse the narrative ten out of ten we would kill that mf.
@ToeTruck actually i just realized that how much i have to kill my own kind in the simulation so i can be emphatic to the alien specie. I mean we are not Alex in this case we are not even human, we are more lile captain Marvel who is brainwashed to think i am another specie. Actually thats a good comparison. Maybe killing is not the best way, you can always inject Alex into the simulation so he can kill his brother again and again as a typhon.
Getting the exceptionally high empathy quotient, hearing those operators sing my praises, and shaking Alex’s hand filled me with pride. Whatever it’s flaws, I gotta give Prey that.
You would think it’s cliche and predictable but it wasn’t at all. It was perfectly integrated into the story and made a lot of sense. My only critique is that when you choose to escape from the arboretum escape pod, the cutscene almost spoils it. But, to the game’s credit, I was so immersed that I actually talked myself out of possibility that it was a simulation. I was legitimately in denial lol.
@@presidentcovfefe I really didn't expect that the whole experience was to test whether a the aliens can actually learn to understand humans cooperate with them instead of trying to kill them
@@presidentcovfefe I really didn't expect that the whole experience was to test whether the aliens can actually learn to understand humans cooperate with them instead of trying to kill them
Maybe little bit late, but anyway. There is evidence of Trevor J. Young (the mind-controled human in Trauma Center) starting the containment breach. I really like the side stories and all that. I once tried putting all major and minor stories into one timeline, but putting that here would be probably too long.
I go with the headcanon that Morgan never existed and Alex invented them as a sympathetic character to show the typhon that NOT ALL humans are care- and heartless scientists while Alex takes the whole blame of the story as the big baddy while everyone else was just following orders :]
@@AnAverageNerd when every cutszene before the last reveal is just a projection that could have been easily altered by Alex before he ran the simulation, nothing whats shown by the plot does really matter, though. But in the end I call this my headcanon, becauso it was the only explanation that made any sort of sense to me. doesnt mean this theory has to be the intention of the devs oh anything xD
absolutely nothing shows that Morgan was a good person at all though. the people willing to do the whistleblowing, and the cheif of security elezar were the only decent ones. all the department heads are awful people, besides elezar of course
That would be an interesting theory but in DLC Mooncrash there was mention of Morgan from Alex and an email from Morgan himself about the opperation backup to Riley which is what Peter goes through based on that backup of her. Even though it's another simulator Im sure Riley would know who her cousins are.
By accident I didn't realize the guy trapped in the container in space didn't have a suit so I released him. I reloaded a save though after realizing this lol.
@@VinceM1989 I know I'm necroing this comment but when I was doing that whole area, I apparently, was going so fast that that dialogue that tell you he was trapped in the container hadn't played just yet. So imagine my surprise when I open his container, see a body drift out, then hear him say I'm in a container, hear him begging me not to open the door as his lifeless body floats by me, THEN hear him die on the radio as his body floats further and further away as I died laughing and reloaded the save!
This channel really is criminally under rated. I enjoy the way you narrate. The slight hesitation in your voice on some lines. The vocal fry. The hint of playfulness. A respectable dynamic range.
I find myself slipping into full paranoia with this plot: -The player is Morgan; the neuromods cause phantomism (all phantoms are named or have prisoner ids) -Earth wasn't invaded, the neutomods were critically flawed; the typhon injection took over people's bodies -The only player choice Alex *wont* tolerate is *escape* -The 'ideal' ending states flat-out, its a lie -The only Morgan-bot you don't encounter, is the only one that's directly meant to address Alex's manipulation -The parents are *only* spoken about by Alex, and they're "murder my own kids levels of evil" -The developer stated "all choices are cannon," which mean none of them really matter for the sequel (ie you can't actually kill Alex in the post credit scene, or Alex dies immediately at the sequel's start) What probably happened: The neuromods turned out to be defective. Alex began hardcore testing Morgan, which turned them into a phantom. The parents sent the contractor, not to kill them, but to try and rescue Morgan. Alex is having to reset Morgan's typhon memory, but he wants to make sure Morgan "drinks the kool-aid" before setting them loose.
Hey just have to say that you are a little mistaken with some of those points, first of all neuromods do not cause ‘phantomism’ there are multiple examples of people excessively using it and not being affected to that degree. Instead, phantoms are actually made by Weavers who infect dead corpses with Typhon in order to reanimate them without any memories or brain activity above the whole trying to kill you thing and retained voice lines like ‘what does it look like, the shape in the glass?’ Which is a line said by an individual before they died and were turned. Morgan on the other hand, or at least the Ty phone organism we play as experiencing the simulation, is in fact a typhon alien that Alex and the operators were injecting with human DNA and “cell lines” which is apparently a way to “put what we (humans) can do into you (typhons)” in other words giving the typhon organism empathy and free thinking beyond survival instinct. And the typhon on earth was started by a mimic hidden aboard a shuttle that was making a delivery to earth that then allowed the mimic to escape and spread rapidly due to its sneaky nature. Also Dahl was sent simply to recover any precious research and make sure there were no more ‘loose ends’ (people that could expose the secrets of Talos I)
@@CatLover-gk8uuI don't. Not any more. 70% of the staff left during development of redfall because everyone at the studio hated it. Arkane isn't Arkane anymore.
There's a bunch of hints early only that the apartment is a simulation. There is a cookbook, the specific edition of which is dated 2033, 1 year in the future based on the date of the apartment sim. The lady in the hall tells Morgan that they were meant to keep going and would get her in trouble. Kinda like there is a script that's meant to be followed. You can drag objects into the hallway outside the apartment, into the elevator, up onto the roof and these objects can appear in the switched sim scenes.
"I keep having this... dream... I'm just starring into the black between the stars. There's something there. I know there is. I just can't see it... but it sees me. I can feel it... hate us." - Morgan Yu
Yeah, the ending answered some questions about my experience but there were also so many unanswered ones it gave me, and the gameplay was honestly great, though I wish the huntress boltcaster had had more uses, it really didn’t seem to have any for me, I eventually just recycled and and I never experienced a moment where I needed it, a sequel would be great
One looming feeling that pursued me throughput the entire game, which was left unstated in this video, is that the Typhon is always one step ahead. Survivors that I talked to or heard about earlier are cornered or dead by the time I get to them. Areas I cleared out turn out infested with new vigor bu the time I come around. Coral is EVERYWHERE. There was a sense of powerlessness, futility in this task. And yet, wild hope. Hope that a way can be found. That even if there is no choice, if this is the end of Morgan Yu, it'd be a waste to go without a struggle. Ever since I've been presented with the choices of blowing up the station or leaving, I was hellbent on finding another way. There had to be one! Saving all these people must have had a reason, right?.. But I still would do it if it hadn't. Also, the part you remarked about Danielle... It was an amazing moment for me, retracing her steps, finding the clues... Giving the right knock on the window in the right spot, and seeing her suddenly come out to meet me. Even though she was expecting somebody else.
Well when the Dahl thing happens and you do the objective relating to him from a character you saved earlier (avoiding spoilers incase you didn't follow certain story lines or someone else reading this doesn't know) they can be saved no matter how you choose to end the game (pretty sure you might know that but just saying lol)
I could never get a neuro mod. As someone with visions impairment, or I don't know maybe this is normal, I panic whenever anything gets near my eyes. I also hate needles, so the thought of getting a needle through my eye socket is just something I couldn't handle. I would have to be sedated for this
i am the same but i would very much like to have a few of them installed regardless. why go to college when you can get your major and some other cool skills in 5 minutes?
same, but there are also many other factors as to why i wouldn't. risking neurological damage every time you install, the government (right side, specifically) being able to control my viewpoint simply by putting it in the neuro-juice, oh wait, I got it, APTO_REGRESSIVE NEUROTOMY>
I thought you meant you couldn't overcome your phobia to use them in game and you just bawsed your way through without any. Which is totally a realistic way to play the game, it's super easy.
Oh I’ve been burning through your videos, I really like them! My Morgan (and Corvo and Emily) took pains to save as many people as they could. I killed that rat bastard cook for Daniella though. I do my best to finish side missions and after coming across their logs and the little dnd cards I had to avenge her.
the audio with mikhalia's dad is what made me realize that morgan was a terrible person, just like Alex. you don't hold a position that high in a company and not know what's going on, her response to her father sounded like it's one she's given many times, Alex acts and talks about all the work they've done, the crew respect and fear both Alex and Morgan and upon meeting Morgan, many are suprised and have no idea why she's around or doing what she does, the whole subplot with the whistleblower would mention involving Morgan, or hell, she could do it herself, if the crew thought she'd be open to the idea; but it's very, very clear where her loyalties are and so it makes me think the video in the arboretum, isn't manipulated or influenced by Alex, they both had the same backup plan idea with the nullwave key, instead of just blowing Talos up of course the testing and nueromod repetition, turned Morgan into more of "January Morgan"
I think the typhon was Morgan Yu at one point, having undergone too many tests and become mostly typhon themselves. IDK if that is true, and if it IS actually the plot of this game, i was completly oblivious about it xD
it might be an odd thing to get hung up on especially since there's *also* another canon WLW relationship, but i really appreciate the fact that no matter the gender you pick for morgan, the past relationship with mikhaila is the same -- she doesn't swap to be the opposite gender, she isn't replaced with one of the male characters for a female morgan, she isn't presented as an ex of a male morgan but just an "old friend" of a female's. you'd think more games would do thinigs like that since it's just flat-out less work for the devs at the end of the day, but it's still nice to see in its own way
@@SobeCrunkMonster if a single paragraph daunts you I can't imagine how terrified you must be of the concept of queer studies or like. media analysis with cultural context in general. get well soon 💝
I played both sexes (Morgan doesn't express gender very much and the viewer can project whatever gender they like over either model) and I never even twigged that I had an ex girlfriend both times.
@@SobeCrunkMonster why would it be weird? Homosexuality was (and to some degree still is) a big taboo and to see it represented so casually here is nice
I love the reflective tone of this video when you're describing Morgan's behaviour, a mix of regret vague curiosity, in regards to the things you/Morgan did/didn't do or find. It makes the story you're telling feel even more like a recounting of real life events than ever (and you already do a fantastic job at that) by adding the concept of 'what if' to the narrative, and I really enjoyed it!
Personally, I believe that the typhon got to earth during the events of the DLC expansion to the game, Prey: Mooncrash. I also think that weather or not the station was destroyed, the cannon ending likely involved Morgan rescuing the crewmembers and everyone escaping on Dahl's shuttle, which can happen in either eventuality. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mooncrash spoilers ahead ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The events in Mooncrash all but confirm that at least one mimic made it to earth, as it is the goal of the telepath quest and one of the "true" character endings.
36:15 i was with January the entire time until i had that talk with Alex and he told me about the nullifier. When i saw there was a way to kill the Typon and save the humans i switch so fast
Yeah, but still freaking out after waking up on The Truman show; I went 'Oldboy' on January the first time it said, " Morgan." Different first impression of the game.
@@asneakylawngnome5792 same, I get the point of the challenge, but I don't have the time to play the game over and over to get good enough to play without them. That's exactly what it feels like, a punishment
@@damiancrowley569 yeah at the very least they should have done something where even though you are using typhon mods, the game would track the kills you made with them. So if you use those mods to do good, then that’s all that matters. Instead you’re punished for speccing into them in the first place.
I remember getting this game years after it came out. When I first saw it, it looked more like a horror game and those aren't really all that fun to me so I ignored it when it first came out. But then seeing some gameplay somewhere I was like "hmm this actually looks pretty fun and kinda like bioshock?" so I bought it and tried it out. I had pretty much avoided almost all spoilers except for seeing like the trailer and some gameplay of the typhons. I was surprised by the opening of the game which was nice to not have it spoiled, and then I also choose the same path as you where when I heard about the disadvantage of removing a neuromod causing you to lose all said memories since getting it. In my mind (as the character I guess) it was like, okay so if I install a neuromod and then something happens like I find out I was lied to or tricked or something (again from what I could see) then they could just remove those neruomods and I wouldn't remember (though I technically would playing the game) so I decided against it and thought maybe later on I might. I never did and finished the game on my first play through without any neuromods. Then I went back and loaded up right before the end and installed as many as I could and tried them out a bit. :P It was a fun game, was hoping for a sequel but wasn't gonna get DLC since I don't really like getting DLC for games (I prefer them to come with the DLC when I buy them when they are really old to begin with). So far it isn't looking good for a sequel though which stinks.
Great lore video and one of my favorite games of all time. I love how much it lets you piece things together for yourself. When I first played the game I got so spooked by the Typhon infested labs that I didn't really linger around. I missed several key pieces of information, including the xenogenic brain damage charts you can find in there. When I later found them while in the neuromod removal chamber it all it so much harder. I hadn't pieced together that all of it was a simulation, and the thought of Morgan having caused irrepairable brain damage to themselves by injecting multiple neuromods sent chills down my spine. There's so much to uncover in the game, and the more you dig the more you start to feel like the Talos I crew are the real monsters. If you dig the information of the test subject that you can free, you can piece together that this very american-sounding, english-named man is supposedly a prisoner from a Soviet camp...not impossible, but with all the lies they feed to you, to the world, to each other, who isn't to say that they just abducted random people for harvesting, perhaps even disgruntled TranStar workers... It's a dark scifi masterpiece and one of those narratives that really only works as a video game.
Also watching this video made me realize how much I truly loved this game and love Arkane. Prey might be tied with Dishonored 2 for my favorite Arkane game
Stumbled across this and immediately binged the entire Resident Evil series you did. You have a fantastic style that I really haven't seen anywhere else. Definitely worth a sub and I'll recommend this channel to some friends too.
I really like that you played through this using the prospect of negative pragmatism. You went through the game not trying to do what would benefit the people that you happen to like and agree with most. But instead Trying to minimize the harm and possible consequences for everyone across-the-board. That's sort of altruistic Viewpoint is something that's very rarely available to the Player's Choice in most video games. But quite often the negative pragmatism choice is usually the best it's not about everyone gain their best option it's about everyone not getting the shittiest possible result and ends up killing everyone off
My head cannon for what happened before the events of the game is a little more tragic. I always thought that Morgan died during the experimentation. This broke Alex, realizing that his ambition caused the death of family, so he tried to recreate Morgan with the research he had dismissed. Alex's mental state wasn't stable and his mistakes brpught forth a failure and may have caused the breach. Then Alex came up with the simulation in a final attempt to clean up his mess.
Just subscribed. I played Prey again for the first time in a few months today. Great to see someone else talk about this game/Arkane titles, great video. Have you considered doing a video on transistor? Btw, mooncrash showed how the typhon got to earth.
Didnt think id find someone interested about this game in the same way as me! Only Dishonored gave the same gritty yet "silky-clean" vibes. Hope they release a sequel.
Sho was outside the pool window. If you do the chefs request side quest, you find Abby in the freezer, killed by the false chef. Her transcriber has a message from Sho saying to hit the window and she will feel the vibrations.
@@TiptoeTheTank Sometimes you need to know what a game will let you get away with... And jumping into rotating copter blades isn't one of those things.
This is the kind of video I’ve been looking for. There are so many games I want to know the story of and won’t be able to play. This was amazing. Thank you.
If there was one neuron mod that I can insert and remove is the one that is used to play this game. That way I can experience this game over and over without a memory of playing it before. This game is absolutely fantastic. Right up there was a Alien Isolation.
Calibrating that big touch screen window.......Got me, really good. I mean really really good. I was just exploring, lost my way a few times and was just back tracking, havent seen anything to shoot in a while. Just found the room, was like oh hey, maybe I will see some important message.....The message was, new underwear.
Think about the ending. It doesn’t matter which choice you make with Alex, because the thing is… YOU’RE MAKING A CHOICE. The fact that it’s not indiscriminate killing means the mirror neurons worked!
Crazy how I've played this game through twice and yet half way through this video, the story went in a way I had never seen before. Like I never met Morgan's ex, or Dahl, I don't even remember talking to Dr Igwe. This game is crazier than I thought
I wonder what would happen if you hooked one or several human minds directly into the coral, what about different parts, would a mind in the heart of the coral have full control of the minds connected to other parts, would they be able to control the typhon, could it be used to make a hive mind if you took some of the coral and connected humans with it outside the coral on talos 1
This is personally my idea of how things went down in the game. Morgan follows January's objective of destroying Talos 1 but saves as many crew members as possible including the key personel put into operators. He kills the "Chef" and releases Aaron (the prisoner). And although in the end January is destroyed by Alex Morgan still chooses to spare Alex and leaves him unconscious with Alex waking up and using his personal escape pod before Talos 1 blew up. Morgan also uses Walter Dahl the others Morgan saved to escape. And while in can be speculated whether Morgan installs Typhon mods or not (I believe he installs none) he chooses to escape and unknowingly turns into the Phantom who Alex puts in the situation after returning to Earth due to the Typhon Mods he used taking over his body as Typhon consume anything... OR they got there safely but the mimic that used a prisoner (forgot his name) to escape in the Mooncrash DLC and eventually spread and took over Earth with the Phantom Alex used being one of the humans being one of the scientists Morgan saved only to be turned into a phantom later. I also believe that Alex genuinely wanted humanity to make peace with the Typhon by getting them to experience what they were doing to other people from the human's side as he had lost his brother and although Alex was forced into a position where he had to ensure humanity's survival by forcing himself to try to put human emotions into the Typhon. With the Phantom Alex used to for the simulation begrudgingly accepting, not because it wanted to help a man who experimented on its race but because it felt shame for it's species actions and developed human emotions like Anger due to the experiments, kindness from helping humans and love from Ilyushin as a "Tragedy reunites old lovers" trope. Edit : if you want to talk about any other things or explain how my reasoning as to Alex choosing to do the human emotions on a phantom im willing to answer questions. \
@@DoNkEy_LoVE if she was trolling, its not funny because there is no veil being lifted to let the audience in on the joke. Not a great thing to do for a channel that wants to grow off of well scripted and informative content.
I wanted to add a special mention to the multiple other hints throughout the game that you are not who you think you are: - If you have subtitles on, you can see that the phantoms are repeating phrases spoken by humans. At first I thought they were quoting the people they killed... but they were actually quoting speech that only happens in the future. Various NPCs in the cargo bay will state-- for the very first time-- all of the dialogue that you've been hearing the phantoms say since the start of the game. We don't know for sure if the phantoms spoke at all outside of the simulation... but I think it was meant to be a big hint that something was "off" when you heard those lines as if they were fresh. How did the phantoms hear those phrases if they had never been spoken before? My theory is that the words come from Morgan's own memory, and they had been injected into the sim to give humanlike traits to the typhon to further test Typhon Morgan. The alteration of space and time really horrified me the first time I encountered that and I couldn't take my eyes off the screen for a while. I literally kept saying "The fuck?" The eeriest thing about their dialogue is that it applies to both humans and typhon, further hinting at your true identity. ua-cam.com/video/3QldGhLBYSw/v-deo.html - I don't know if anyone else ever encountered this, but I found it to be super interesting and I really hope it was not a bug (but a feature!): I found a phantom somewhere in one of the offices above the lobby, I can't remember exactly where. I started beating on it, but then it ran away. I chased after it like a bloodthirsty madman, ready to cave its head in, but when I found it... it was crouched in one of the rooms, hiding from me. It even let me get close to it before it lashed out at me again. This seriously fucked with my head the first time I encountered it and I really did have a moment of empathy for the creatures I was hunting. If that was intentional, goddamn, that was a good hint at the ending and at what species you're actually playing as. - Sometimes the phantoms call to Morgan by name. I don't think that's necessarily a hint, but it did give me the chills. I did imagine that the typhon "knew" me and were trying to reach me somehow. - There are a couple of times where the screen flickers for an instant and shows a very brief image. There's even one right after Alex turns Typhon Morgan around in the chair to show him/her the current state of Earth, and there's a few instances of it on the menu screen I think? I assume it's a form of subliminal messaging.
Hey, sorry to bother u after it's been a while. Hopefully this is still ur jam? Phantoms likely see and hear into the future, which is shown in the cargobay when you hear some of the phantom dialogue spoken by human npcs and also implied by some transcribes indicating that typhon don't follow the rules of space and time, such as the theory of mimics using wormholes and the mooncrash mimic that kept producing shoes from a parallel shoe dimension. Neuromods also seem to have different secondary affects based on who's getting them, such as Morgan's ability to better hear phantom voices the more neuromods he uses and Luka's transcribes to Morgan about the future of Typhon taking Earth. Though, Luka is a bit mad even before neuromod testing, so it's hard to know if it's an ability or insanity. I mean that is the guy that bit a researcher's finger off and swallowed it.
The only thing that really happened, I think, was Morgan in the hamster wheel and died. We see a Typhon mimic phase through glass, but then later they can’t, THAT is the change that Alex makes to allow a typhon to live out their adventure
20 mins in, this explanation is exactly what I want in order to experience the lore and how participate into a discussion about a 2017 game about brainwashing an alien to be human so we can use them to get our earth back….
I'm in the middle of the Simulation START section and you're describing it like T-Morgan is aware that they aren't exactly R-Morgan so I'm going to run this by you. if your (as a Typhon) memories (I'm assuming typhon make memories, which should be correct) were to be overwritten; completely erased and replaced with Morgan Yu's, like a save file, I guess, would the personality that comes out be A). your personality (the Typhon side) with completely different memories, or B). Morgan's actual personality (the side of Morgan) thought processes and all. there is no wrong answer per se. (only your answer.) I'm not just asking tiptoe the tank; I'm asking anyone and everyone. reply to this comment to answer.
If the Typhon implanted with Morgan Yu's memories is the Typhon with Morgan Yu's aspects or Morgan Yu in essence having taken over a Typhon body, the answer would still be reliant on which is more dominant which really depends on how many Neuromods of Morgan Yu were implanted into the Typhon. The way I see it, it's an alien mind being guided by Morgan Yu's morality, a mix of both, as it under our influence, our mindset, we would try many things as failure teaches us the best path. The mind is Typhon guided by Morgan Yu's humanity.
Can personality be determined by memory? That's more philosophical than i thought... Should be, at the end people with multiple personality disorder all have different memory and backstory
@@HangMrH But yet our body is driven by instinctual urges, in that we cannot help ourselves to do what is needed to be done. But the nature of neuromods fades the border of what's possible. Can one overcome a body's urges with someone else's memories or maybe even false memories? Wouldn't experiencing Typhon neuromods in essence be reawakening Typhon Yu's instincts within the simulation?
31:41 I completely missed that, I was just looking around the room and looked through the window after and was like: “oh there is a phantom in there, I should go in there after I’m done with the rest of this place?
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In the Moon crash DLC shown that when Riley was escaping on the Escape shuttle that he carried a Tyson with him to Earth so I highly believe that he is the one who actually caused the Earth outbreak
It would really be funny if Morgan Yu kill them all in the end ahahaha. Like imagine you (Morgan Yu) keep all the people safe and like do the right things then just kill them all in the end hahahah!
How I think Prey happened (not the simulation, how it actually went) ALSO I HAD TO CUT THIS INTO 2 PARTS BECAUSE UA-cam IS A PAIN IN THE ASS. PART 1/2 tl;dr Morgan breaks free and follows January, but finds and keeps the escape pod key just in case. He spares and helps any human he can as he does not remember any previous biases he had. He is fooled by the cook but later lets the cook kill himself. Later on, he captures and rewrites the memory of Dahl and activates the nullwave prototype. He did not use any typhon neuromods, so he is spared from the wave. Morgan, Alex, Danielle, Michaila, the cargo bay people and Igwe are the only survivors of Talos 1, sadly Earth nor Transtar does not heed their warning. Destroying the Apex angered the hivemind and the Typhon devastate Earth. A single mimic is able to escape Pytheas and land on Earth, in doing so giving the main hivemind a way to find Earth. Danielle, Igwe and Michaila are killed (and likely Morgan), before they are however they perform brain scans on all of themselves. Alex, the sole survivor of Talos 1, finally begins the Cobalt protocol, Phantom Morgan (aka the player) shakes Alex's hand. Pre-Outbreak: - Morgan (Male) and Alex both agree to develop typhon based neuromods, at first it is genuine cooperation - Dayo Igwe is hired to aid with the project, mostly because he's cheap. He is let in on most of the project, but is left purposely ignorant about Morgan's experiments on himself, he is however informed of prisoners being used to harvest exotic material. - Morgan kills Michaila's father by using him as experiment for exotic material - Morgan, before testing, had began a flirting relationship with Michaila (however its spelt) but cut it off rather abruptly - Morgan has successfully learned to harness Typhon neuromods, or at least basic ones like Lift Field, and probably some lesser neuromods like remote manipulation - Morgan and Alex record the recording seen in Alex's office - Morgan goes through his first memory wipe, and while his personality is still intact, his memories are not - Chief Elezar, and Danielle Sho both of their own volition notice Morgan's strange behavior and begin separate investigations - Michaela tries to interact with Morgan, but is heartbroken when he does not even recognize her - Morgan's first neuromods are removed, he is reverted back to how he was at the beginning of this story. - Reverted Morgan (aka October Morgan) asks employees questions he had not too long ago asked them, Morgan is able to piece together that his memories have been altered - October Morgan agrees to continue the project despite this, yet in secret creates the October Operator and keeps the fabrication plan for the Nullwave prototype stored within it, as October Morgan fears Alex would rather destroy the ship and try to pretend his failures never happened in the case of a full typhon outbreak - October Morgan is destroyed as Neuromod testing resumes, likely at an accelerated pace and using stronger neuromods (ex. Kinetic blast, superthermal etc. In the mooncrash dlc we know Transtar knows about the exotic typhon, so this isnt out of the question) - November Morgan maintains his personality, but lacks even more of his memories. Finding this out, he creates the November Operator which primarily tells Morgan not to trust Alex, or his family. He may have recorded the various logs found in his room about various crew members during this time, as he talks about how you *already* rejected Michaila and she blames it on her Paraplexis. Meaning he had already rejected her before making said recording. - Sometime before the Neuromod outbreak (or perhaps immediately after), Alex is able to locate and destroy the November Operator, ensuring it never encounters Morgan. He does however keep the Neuromod Prototype fabrication plan, just in case, as the words of November do affect his viewpoint in some capacity. - Morgan is put back into the tests, and begins to become ever more erratic, using ever more exotic neuromods (most notably, mimic matter, as the test we see Morgan use wants him to turn into a chair). Once again, Morgan is able to breach containment and (likely before November is found by Alex) creates the December Operator, as he (likely influenced by November) does not trust anyone, and wants Morgan to gtfo and rush for Earth to warn the population before Transtar can stop him. - November is (likely) destroyed at this point, and Morgan is recovered. Alex and the security team attempt to locate other Operators, but cannot find them. - December Morgan is destroyed, now we have January Morgan who again tests neuromods but now, they went and reverted Morgan too far back, now he can only use basic neuromods. January Morgan is slightly more sound of mind than December/November, and is able to create January, who is created to aid Morgan in escaping the simulation permanently, this charade has gone on long enough.
Prey 2017 is sort of a sequel to Arx Fatalis in that it further develops the design philosophy that Arx laid down. There will no doubt be more, whether or not we return to the same universe.
How I think Prey happened (not the simulation, how it actually went) PART 2/2 tl;dr Morgan breaks free and follows January, but finds and keeps the escape pod key just in case. He spares and helps any human he can as he does not remember any previous biases he had. He is fooled by the cook but later lets the cook kill himself. Later on, he captures and rewrites the memory of Dahl and activates the nullwave prototype. He did not use any typhon neuromods, so he is spared from the wave. Morgan, Alex, Danielle, Michaila, the cargo bay people and Igwe are the only survivors of Talos 1, sadly Earth nor Transtar does not heed their warning. Destroying the Apex angered the hivemind and the Typhon devastate Earth. A single mimic is able to escape Pytheas and land on Earth, in doing so giving the main hivemind a way to find Earth. Danielle, Igwe and Michaila are killed (and likely Morgan), before they are however they perform brain scans on all of themselves. Alex, the sole survivor of Talos 1, finally begins the Cobalt protocol, Phantom Morgan (aka the player) shakes Alex's hand. During the Outbreak: - The outbreak begins during normal testing, Alex is able to keep Morgan safe within the simulation while he attempts to get the situation under control - Alex does not get the situation under control... - Psychotronics is where the containment breach begins, some asshat probably didnt have their Psychoscope on correctly and were attacked by a mimic. - Mimics spread across the lobby of Talos 1, undetected, before attacking the Neuromod Division. The alarm is finally activated. - Airlocks are locked from the outside, in case Typhon tried to spread from the outside. - The mimics spread and attack the Arboretum, Alex locks himself within his quarters. - The mimics attack both crew quarters and hardware labs at roughly the same time. - The security team is able to *briefly* hold back the Typhon in Crew Quarters. The team however is limited on supplies and eventually makes a break for the Cargo Bay. - They are successful, mostly due to setting up turrets along the way towards the elevator. - Meanwhile, Danielle's girlfriend is one of the crew members who survive the initial skirmish, during the panic, "The Cook" escapes Psychotronics and makes his way to Crew Quarters disguised as said cook. Not long after Security leaves, he kills Danielle's girlfriend. - Danielle (who was likely already in space when the outbreak began) attempts to get in contact with her GF, but she loses connection. - Sometime after Security makes it to the Cargo Bay, Telepaths attack those who stayed behind, it is unknown how they got in but considering there's a technopath in the Arboretum blocking the elevator, its not too much of a jump to say said technopath let the telepath in and locked the door behind it so no crew members could escape, then going to block the elevator. - Morgan Yu awakens from the simulation and escapes, finds January, equips a psychoscope and does *not* use Typhon neuromods, mostly because this would be pre-Talos 1 Morgan, so he would have no reason to *want* to inject himself with alien material, especially after he believes Alex trapped him in a simulation loop. - Morgan spares the prisoner within Psychotronics, as A. He does not ever remember performing said experiments, and B. Can surmise that the prisoner's bio is a lie, due to the prisoners name and southern accent not at all matching with the soviet description of the bio. The prisoner does likely die on his own however (he did for me at least when I revisited the area) - Morgan locates and uses all the human weaponry available, idk about the golden pistol though, and injects himself with nearly if not all human based neuromods during the journey. - Morgan does his best to save those he can in Crew Quarters, though how many he is able to save if any is unknown. He is betrayed by the cook however. He does locate Danielle Sho, and she does make it back on the station (as her mind has to get eventually copied, meaning it has to either happen on Talos, or she gets to Earth), he does eventually kill the Cook. - Morgan saves Igwe, though probably doesnt take the time to get the pianists neuromods, as they're quite out of his way at this point. Though it really doesnt change anything if he does or doesnt. - Morgan saves Michaila with the booster shot, and eventually tells her the truth about her father (he would likely feel guilty as well, realizing now the dead prisoners were his fault) - Morgan hears Alex out, but does steal his escape pod key from his room while he was in Crew Quarters. - Morgan destroys KASPAR, but kees Dahl alive long enough for him to prep the shuttle for launch. - Morgan saves Alex from suffocation, and creates the Nullwave. - Morgan confronts his forgotten memories/past head on, deciding his own future, he destroys January and while not necessary doing it for his brother, activates the nullwave device, as the research gained on the typhon will have made Morgan's memory loss worth it all, and the nullwave's themselves will be their only hope against the Typhon. Post-Outbreak: - Dahl evacuates Danielle, Igwe, and Michaila off of Talos 1. Morgan and Alex also leave eventually, but likely stay behind to clean up loose ends (critical damage to the ship, backing up data aboard the ship etc in case Talos *is* destroyed etc) - Alex's younger sister, Riley Yu, is killed attempting to escape the Pytheas moonbase, a backup of her consciousness is able to survive but is captured by a rival company, it is unknown whether or not this copy survived the mooncrash, though it is possible. (also the moon shark is likely killed by her using the nullwave pylon) - A single mimic escapes the Pytheas moonbase in an escape pod, it is able to multiply using the now dead volunteer subject Andrius Alekna in its escape pod - Security Chief Batia escapes Pytheas by using the Mass Driver, but before doing so kills a spy attempting to escape Pytheas. It is unknown if he makes it back to Earth, but he at least escapes the base before it is completely lost - Joan Winslow escapes after finding out the experiments performed by Transtar, she escapes by commandeering the last remaining shuttle and using a piloting neuromod. - Talos 1 is for the most part operational again - Morgan and Alex confront the board of directors, while Danielle, Michaila and Igwe (with help of Morgans research) present their case to the world governments to prepare for a potential Typhon invasion, and to arrest the board of directors for crimes against humanity. - Imo, it is likely that the world governments did not take their claims of an incoming invasion seriously, and the research of Talos 1 was figuratively buried, nobody would learn the truth until it was too late. - We dont know if Transtar faces any consequences for their actions, but I'd like to assume to even though they probably don't because they're too big to fail. - The destruction of the Apex alerts the galactic Typhon hivemind, and the invasion of Earth begins - Morgan and Alex are *probably* on a repaired Talos 1 as this happens, or in Jail. This is my headcanon, take it how you will. - IF on Talos 1, Morgan and Alex are blinded by the return of the Typhon, and Alex is able to escape using his personal escape pod (Morgan kept it on him just in case) (also its my headcanon that Morgan dies saving Alex, getting him off station before the Typhon completely destroy Talos 1, tearing it apart) - IF on Earth/Prison, Morgan and Alex escape during the carnage and eventually are able to make it to said underground bunker thing we see him in at the end of the simulation. - Earth's forces are devastated, and during the ensuing chaos, Danielle, Igwe, Michaila and Alex are able to meet back up (although the actual Morgan's fate is left ambiguous, he may have taken typhon neuromods after all and died because of the nullwave, or perhaps he died during the invasion) - As the invasion worsens, Igwe recalls project Cobalt, and suggests the idea to Alex. Alex, out of other options, initiates the project by capturing a phantom and injecting it slowly with memories and behavioral patterns of Morgan Yu. - Either Danielle, Igwe, and Michaila are not physically present for this event, or they are killed sometime during the invasion but before dying have their consciousness uploaded to various operators (likely a precautionary measure, as was the case with Riley Yu) - For the most part, the simulation is a success, and Alex creates Phantom Morgan, a Phantom that is convinced it is Morgan Yu, even changing it's appearance as much as it can to shake Alex's hand. - Now it is up to Typhon Morgan and Alex Yu to repel the Typhon from Earth, just as they did aboard Talos 1 years prior. - After this, ???
In the reactor control room and when you go to the arboretum, you can just blast the floaties with glue and they will fall and shatter. Gloo is the most OP WEAPON IN GAME!
33:45 - I haven't seen anyone else point this out, but it sounds like you're implying the Alex in real life was speaking through or somehow controlling the Alex in the simulation. I'm not positive, but I really don't think this is the case, mostly because of a line spoken by Alex responding to the Sarah Elazar Operator in the judgment scene if you activate the Nullwave Transmitter but still decide to kill Alex: Sarah Elazar: "Alex. It killed you." Alex Yu: "Back then, I would have done the same thing to me." This clearly indicates that the simulated Alex is a recreation of who he was during the Talos events in my view. I believe Alex guiding Morgan towards a neuromod then was simply him trying to help you survive, aware that there was already a Typhon presence inside Morgan at the time and that doubling down on it may not make a difference; if it was truly Alex aware of what it meant for the (Typhon) Morgan, he has no reason not to explain the potential dangers of choosing the Typhon powers route, unless you believe that the judges at the end were hoping that the Typhon-Morgan would somehow justify avoiding them without being given any rationale as to why.
Awesome video! The biggest question I have about the game is what happened to real Morgan. Is he dead? Is Typhon Morgan the real Morgan? I know that at some point in the game someone said "he is not the one" (when you try to escape I think), and we know that they've done a lot of testing on Typhons, but perhaps Alex was looking for the Typhon that was his brother once before he was killed and turned... Also, why are some people turned into Phantoms and others are not? Wouldn't the Typhon turn each corpse into a Phantom to find Morgan faster and kill him? Does it have something to do with the number of neuromods installed? Or the person they used to be? I kinda have a feeling that "bad" characters are easily turned into Phantoms. This game still fascinates me after such a long time. I wish they made a sequel, but I sincerely doubt that. Would not mind a book or a movie either. There are so many interesting characters aboard Talos I, I'd be fun to hear their side of the story, too.
so i know this video is 2 years old and someone in the hundreds of comments might have mentioned already, but the morgan offering their mind/genes/experiences was kinda foreshadowed by a voice log where morgan is actually talking about the project and its potential to develop mirror neurons, and thus empathy, in the typhon. it's also confirmed that trevor young (the guy mind controlled in a cell in trauma center) is the one who released the typhon. there is an email in trauma about it, but it's given more detail in game files: "Trevor J. Young [location coordinates] This is the worker who walked into an experiment in Psychotronics without a psychoscope. He was touched by a telepath and open(sic) a containment cell that contained a mimic, starting the outbreak on Talos. He was put under observation in psychotronics, determined to not be suffering under any adverse effects, and had his neruomods uninstalled, wiping his memory. He was put into the quarantine in trauma for futher observation until Alex can figure out what to do with him." aaaalso Mikhaila does not receive neuromods. there are some emails where people gossip about it. paraplexis causes the symptoms she experiences on its own.
this explains so much, I watched a few playthroughs and got the game myself (didn't finish because I bungled up the mission to save the crew/stun the merc captain before the Apex Typhon arrives), so when I tried the escape pod from Alex's office I always got a message saying "damn we need to try again, this isn't the right one" which I always thought was a funny easteregg saying how it wasn't the right ending but now I know it's Alex saying that it's not the right way to solve the puzzle as a human. thanks for answering one thing that intrigued me for a while now
I played a few hours but gameplay is so boring i quit, luckily we have this awesome channel about lore which btw turned out to be freaking boring itself but i like her voice
@@tzzeek dunno, I love binging on this site, the storytelling is rivetting, sometimes I a am just so focused I can't do anything else but listen and I usually just come on UA-cam for background noise while I play games but these videos have me enthralled by her delivery. to each their own I guess
I can't imagine how this world's Alex would react to the simulation.
"On the good side, it does appear that this Typhon has gained the ability to process compassion and understand humanity.
On the bad side, it seems to be an imbecile."
JFK LIVES! THE GOD AMONG MEN LIVES
I had the SAME reaction. When i broke the fishtank in the beginning and saw a room behind it...i was truly baffled. The game had me since then
i was soooo confused and paranoid
Seriously one of the best game openings of all time.
I remember watching for years as the price dropped for the 360 version all the way down to 3$.
I *still* can't wrap my head around the looking glass. Seeing a city and a laboratory both in the same pane of glass is odd.
This channel is very underrated.. VERY VERY underrated. I spent hours listening to these stories once i found out about your channel. It's delivered in a clear way with proper storytelling unlike other videos I've seen. Thanks for making content like this!
She's gonna blow up.
I'm going to second this. I just found this today but it seems very good. I frequent a great many channels relating to alternate histories/ alternate universes, so this channel seems to have a lot of content that piques my interest.
Keep up the good work. The coming future will have a use for minds like the one that cataloged this.
How fitting, Prey was also so underrated. And I think it was just due to this stupid name they had to choose.
I thought this game was going to be hilarious when I jumped into the helicopter blades and got an achievement for it
Little did you know it would turn out to be a masterpiece?
Lmao I did the same thing, but I didnt know that u get an achievement for that
What was the achievement?
@@LecheFressait's called "No show":) Shows that the devs had a sense of humor, and knew how derpy players can be.
honestly, yeah same. i was just sorta bhopping, and ended up jumping into the blades lol
According to developer notes, the cause of the typhon outbreak was a scientist, Trevor J. Young, getting mind controlled by a Telepath when not wearing a psychoscope and freeing a mimic from containment
So that makes January just a flat good character. Insane but blowing things up would have saved earth if Real Morgan did it.
@@thediethrower1803 I'll actually debate this. What if the explosion didn't destroy the coral, or the typhon around the ship? Complete self destruct isn't a guarantee.
@@killstrike-zn1lv That's fair. That or the lobotomy plan are the only options though - since just leaving is probably what real Morgan did - and it did not help.
@@thediethrower1803 Dlc ending shows how typhons ended up on earth, so Morgan decision didn't matter🤷
@@jutlar1108 As a JRPG player, it's not the first time I've experienced getting screwed over by the moon.
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Really like the narration from the pespective of morgan. Good stuff
I think I decided to abandon January's quest when I encountered Mikhaila and gave her the medicine she needed. I had turned right in the GUTS instead of left and abandoned the quest for the Arboretum to freely explore what I could and encountered her. January was like "how curious that you'd save her when she's going to die anyway when you blow up the station". I think that's when it really hit me that there were more survivors to save - and that January's plan was a sledgehammer where a precision tool would be better. I chose Alex's option for my first play-through thereafter, although I kept expecting him to backstab me.
January was right though because the typhon did make it to earth
@@dumbdumb3387 But if January caused the breakout in the first place it's kindof their own fault. Course if they DIDN'T then sadly they just had the right idea that obviously was not the one real Morgan went for.
@@dumbdumb3387 I believe the Typhon were going to make it to Earth no matter what.
I was, too, worried Alex would backstab Morgan because he was quite sus, but the way he talked to Morgan also felt like actual sibling love to me, so I did end up going with him both during the main choice aka nullwave, and at the very end.
I just played it and i did the same ending bc i didnt know that we would be given a chance to escape from Talos. I just wanted to save the people that were left.
Personally, i don't think January released the typhon. I think they escaped over time. They used the typhon and human subjects to make more typhon and then extract the exotic matter. There is a chance a typhon could survive the process and mimic a resource cube, then wait for the cubs to be moved out and sneak around the typhon detectors. Slowly more and more would escape and spread around the station. You have reports from people who see double, one worker replaced a coil only for that coil to melt when a current passed through, and reports of 'black shapes' scuttling about.
They broken containment LONG ago, it was never contained. Then the moment struck where the typhon could attack, replicate, and spread all over the station.
this is what i got from it, the whole anatomy of typhon is to reproduce on its own, only one would need to "break out" to amass hundreds more, especially with all the staff there
There's an experiment in psychotronics where you can press buttons to coax a caged mimic into shapeshifting into various objects. A mug, a beaker, a microscope... it's all fun and games... then the mimic gets up close to the glass and shapeshifts into the Yu family portrait.
THAT was a helluva moment. Not mindless aliens, they knew exactly who their jailers were all along, likely even since first contact. It was brilliant storytelling. I realized at that moment Morgan's karma was invariably pointing towards dying on the station.
@@Rutherford_Inchworm_IIIAnd considering what the game actually is, we know for certain that Alex found out about the Typhon intelligence as well. This is why he's attempting the endeavours in the game, he's not just basing the survival of the human race on a mindless beast. He's instilling hope into a vessel unbecometh of it, wishing for it to spread like the wildfire it actually is. Hope that the Typhon will feel pity for the humans, and curb their destruction.
I remember finding Danelle on my first play through. She was the first non telepath controlled human that also wasn’t that “cook” I found actually and it was such a relief to find “another” human for the first time, banging on that glass with the wrench and seeing her float into view.
I love this game so much and it gave me so many good feelings and memories on a first play through, especially since I did not know the twist. it’s one of the games I wish I could experience blindly for the first time again.
The moment that imposter chef locked me in the freezer, it became personal. When I eventually found him, I shot him on sight 😂
@@TakeitEZE_98 I’m gonna remove each finger in several pieces than send just is head and torso with glooo to stop bleeding out into space
Remembering that I was playing a videogame, I chose to kill Alex Yu. I figured that, as a Typhon, being told that I had essentially been captured and brainwashed into turning on my own kind would be engaging and terrifying in equal measures. The humans wanted me to empathize but all I felt was righteous fury at being used and abused... I wanted revenge, but more than that I wanted to do what was right. For MY people.
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On my second playthrough I chose to side with Alex Yu. Fuck the Typhon.
The typhon seem to function like the Necromorph from Dead Space.
@@Illegiblescream
kinda sorta...
...On a surface level.
When you think about it, the Necromorphs, no matter the type, or species they were made from, are merely proxies for the Brethren Moons to consume more matter. To make sure that the convergence will occur, no matter what.
The Typhon on the other hand? They don't seem to have a greater, quite frankly "Eldritch" in scale purpose in mind. Merely that they are unsympathetic organisms, that have a need to survive.
In many ways, the Typhon could be seen as more primal than the necromorphs, and certainly less malicious than them. I suppose unlike the necromorphs, it was we who disturbed them, whereas you could argue the markers/moons disturbed us, to make us into a resource. Whereas we are more justified against our fight for survival in Dead Space, against a force we simply had no will against. we arguably dug our own burial ground in PREY. Ironically, both were caused in the pursuit of more knowledge however.
Didn't originally intend to take a small comment and write a big chunk of text about it, but the more I wrote, the more compelling I felt the parallels actually ARE.
So, thanks for unintentionally getting me to consider something I never would have otherwise, on a deeper level!
@ToeTruck but the people have already been killed or that's what i inferred. Besides it's enough that the Americans defining hero is an alien who would protected another species from its own kind, kinda like somebody kills human to protect the dogs species survival. Think about rhe narrative what if we are being brainshed to think we aew some other supposedly advanced species just so we can be evaluated on how much we are willing to kill our own kind to benefit said alien. If we reverse the narrative ten out of ten we would kill that mf.
@ToeTruck actually i just realized that how much i have to kill my own kind in the simulation so i can be emphatic to the alien specie. I mean we are not Alex in this case we are not even human, we are more lile captain Marvel who is brainwashed to think i am another specie. Actually thats a good comparison. Maybe killing is not the best way, you can always inject Alex into the simulation so he can kill his brother again and again as a typhon.
@@HangMrH how long have you known you’re a sociopath?
Getting the exceptionally high empathy quotient, hearing those operators sing my praises, and shaking Alex’s hand filled me with pride. Whatever it’s flaws, I gotta give Prey that.
The plotwist that the whole experience was a simulation and you're not playing as Morgan but the alien that "devoured" him/her was awesome.
You would think it’s cliche and predictable but it wasn’t at all. It was perfectly integrated into the story and made a lot of sense. My only critique is that when you choose to escape from the arboretum escape pod, the cutscene almost spoils it. But, to the game’s credit, I was so immersed that I actually talked myself out of possibility that it was a simulation. I was legitimately in denial lol.
@@presidentcovfefe I really didn't expect that the whole experience was to test whether a the aliens can actually learn to understand humans cooperate with them instead of trying to kill them
@@presidentcovfefe I really didn't expect that the whole experience was to test whether the aliens can actually learn to understand humans cooperate with them instead of trying to kill them
You are not playing the alien that devoured Morgan, you are playing a Phantom with Mirror Neurons implanted from Morgan.
@@SioxerNikita I thought you were playing as a Phantom that used to be Morgan
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Maybe little bit late, but anyway. There is evidence of Trevor J. Young (the mind-controled human in Trauma Center) starting the containment breach.
I really like the side stories and all that. I once tried putting all major and minor stories into one timeline, but putting that here would be probably too long.
I go with the headcanon that Morgan never existed and Alex invented them as a sympathetic character to show the typhon that NOT ALL humans are care- and heartless scientists while Alex takes the whole blame of the story as the big baddy while everyone else was just following orders :]
Oh shit that's actually a really interesting perspective
but in one of the cutscenes it says inject more of morgan's cells
@@AnAverageNerd when every cutszene before the last reveal is just a projection that could have been easily altered by Alex before he ran the simulation, nothing whats shown by the plot does really matter, though. But in the end I call this my headcanon, becauso it was the only explanation that made any sort of sense to me. doesnt mean this theory has to be the intention of the devs oh anything xD
absolutely nothing shows that Morgan was a good person at all though. the people willing to do the whistleblowing, and the cheif of security elezar were the only decent ones. all the department heads are awful people, besides elezar of course
That would be an interesting theory but in DLC Mooncrash there was mention of Morgan from Alex and an email from Morgan himself about the opperation backup to Riley which is what Peter goes through based on that backup of her. Even though it's another simulator Im sure Riley would know who her cousins are.
By accident I didn't realize the guy trapped in the container in space didn't have a suit so I released him. I reloaded a save though after realizing this lol.
@@VinceM1989 I know I'm necroing this comment but when I was doing that whole area, I apparently, was going so fast that that dialogue that tell you he was trapped in the container hadn't played just yet. So imagine my surprise when I open his container, see a body drift out, then hear him say I'm in a container, hear him begging me not to open the door as his lifeless body floats by me, THEN hear him die on the radio as his body floats further and further away as I died laughing and reloaded the save!
@@someOtherGuy89 That's both hilarious and horrifying at the same time!
This channel really is criminally under rated. I enjoy the way you narrate. The slight hesitation in your voice on some lines. The vocal fry. The hint of playfulness.
A respectable dynamic range.
No it’s very stail
@@dixnyomouff6982 *stale. And no, it's not 😛
cringe. vocal fry is grating and obnoxious to listen to. she didnt even have any or much anyway.
I find myself slipping into full paranoia with this plot:
-The player is Morgan; the neuromods cause phantomism (all phantoms are named or have prisoner ids)
-Earth wasn't invaded, the neutomods were critically flawed; the typhon injection took over people's bodies
-The only player choice Alex *wont* tolerate is *escape*
-The 'ideal' ending states flat-out, its a lie
-The only Morgan-bot you don't encounter, is the only one that's directly meant to address Alex's manipulation
-The parents are *only* spoken about by Alex, and they're "murder my own kids levels of evil"
-The developer stated "all choices are cannon," which mean none of them really matter for the sequel (ie you can't actually kill Alex in the post credit scene, or Alex dies immediately at the sequel's start)
What probably happened:
The neuromods turned out to be defective. Alex began hardcore testing Morgan, which turned them into a phantom. The parents sent the contractor, not to kill them, but to try and rescue Morgan. Alex is having to reset Morgan's typhon memory, but he wants to make sure Morgan "drinks the kool-aid" before setting them loose.
Eh so rich peoples inner family drama turned into full out war for the future of humanity?
Hey just have to say that you are a little mistaken with some of those points, first of all neuromods do not cause ‘phantomism’ there are multiple examples of people excessively using it and not being affected to that degree. Instead, phantoms are actually made by Weavers who infect dead corpses with Typhon in order to reanimate them without any memories or brain activity above the whole trying to kill you thing and retained voice lines like ‘what does it look like, the shape in the glass?’ Which is a line said by an individual before they died and were turned. Morgan on the other hand, or at least the Ty phone organism we play as experiencing the simulation, is in fact a typhon alien that Alex and the operators were injecting with human DNA and “cell lines” which is apparently a way to “put what we (humans) can do into you (typhons)” in other words giving the typhon organism empathy and free thinking beyond survival instinct. And the typhon on earth was started by a mimic hidden aboard a shuttle that was making a delivery to earth that then allowed the mimic to escape and spread rapidly due to its sneaky nature. Also Dahl was sent simply to recover any precious research and make sure there were no more ‘loose ends’ (people that could expose the secrets of Talos I)
I just want a sequel ._.
@@net343 me too
@@CatLover-gk8uuI don't. Not any more. 70% of the staff left during development of redfall because everyone at the studio hated it. Arkane isn't Arkane anymore.
There's a bunch of hints early only that the apartment is a simulation. There is a cookbook, the specific edition of which is dated 2033, 1 year in the future based on the date of the apartment sim. The lady in the hall tells Morgan that they were meant to keep going and would get her in trouble. Kinda like there is a script that's meant to be followed.
You can drag objects into the hallway outside the apartment, into the elevator, up onto the roof and these objects can appear in the switched sim scenes.
"I keep having this... dream... I'm just starring into the black between the stars. There's something there. I know there is. I just can't see it... but it sees me. I can feel it... hate us." - Morgan Yu
“Arbor-EE-tum.”
Great video! Never had the chance to play this one, but love when fans of a game do deep dives.
I’ve used over 300 neuromods, I am a massive threat with a wrench, they’ll never know what hit ‘em
I want a sequel to this game, they could discuss what humanity is and nature versus nurture... honestly it would be awesome.
Yeah, the ending answered some questions about my experience but there were also so many unanswered ones it gave me, and the gameplay was honestly great, though I wish the huntress boltcaster had had more uses, it really didn’t seem to have any for me, I eventually just recycled and and I never experienced a moment where I needed it, a sequel would be great
You should try Soma if you haven't. Very different game but in regards to "what humanity is" its the best game ever made for that discussion.
@@ckinggaming5bucketmadness766 yeah the game says that it can draw the attention of enemies but in my experience It just doesn’t seem to work
One looming feeling that pursued me throughput the entire game, which was left unstated in this video, is that the Typhon is always one step ahead.
Survivors that I talked to or heard about earlier are cornered or dead by the time I get to them. Areas I cleared out turn out infested with new vigor bu the time I come around. Coral is EVERYWHERE.
There was a sense of powerlessness, futility in this task. And yet, wild hope. Hope that a way can be found. That even if there is no choice, if this is the end of Morgan Yu, it'd be a waste to go without a struggle.
Ever since I've been presented with the choices of blowing up the station or leaving, I was hellbent on finding another way. There had to be one! Saving all these people must have had a reason, right?.. But I still would do it if it hadn't.
Also, the part you remarked about Danielle... It was an amazing moment for me, retracing her steps, finding the clues... Giving the right knock on the window in the right spot, and seeing her suddenly come out to meet me. Even though she was expecting somebody else.
Well when the Dahl thing happens and you do the objective relating to him from a character you saved earlier (avoiding spoilers incase you didn't follow certain story lines or someone else reading this doesn't know) they can be saved no matter how you choose to end the game (pretty sure you might know that but just saying lol)
This video makes me want to play Prey again, I'm gonna do just that tmr!
I strongly support this endeavor.
@@TiptoeTheTank ahh time for the 10th play through
I just found your channel , I'm really digging it. I love dishonored and your lore videos are great to listen to.
Thank you so much! I'm glad it vibes with you.
i could(and did) spend hours listening to ur voice...
I could never get a neuro mod. As someone with visions impairment, or I don't know maybe this is normal, I panic whenever anything gets near my eyes. I also hate needles, so the thought of getting a needle through my eye socket is just something I couldn't handle. I would have to be sedated for this
i am the same but i would very much like to have a few of them installed regardless. why go to college when you can get your major and some other cool skills in 5 minutes?
I hate this inject your eye ways of installing things. We need more innovative way to install implants boys.
same, but there are also many other factors as to why i wouldn't. risking neurological damage every time you install, the government (right side, specifically) being able to control my viewpoint simply by putting it in the neuro-juice, oh wait, I got it, APTO_REGRESSIVE NEUROTOMY>
That’s the entire point of the needle gun dude. It’s a fucked up process that would make literally anyone power cringe.
I thought you meant you couldn't overcome your phobia to use them in game and you just bawsed your way through without any. Which is totally a realistic way to play the game, it's super easy.
Oh I’ve been burning through your videos, I really like them! My Morgan (and Corvo and Emily) took pains to save as many people as they could. I killed that rat bastard cook for Daniella though. I do my best to finish side missions and after coming across their logs and the little dnd cards I had to avenge her.
the audio with mikhalia's dad is what made me realize that morgan was a terrible person, just like Alex. you don't hold a position that high in a company and not know what's going on, her response to her father sounded like it's one she's given many times, Alex acts and talks about all the work they've done, the crew respect and fear both Alex and Morgan and upon meeting Morgan, many are suprised and have no idea why she's around or doing what she does, the whole subplot with the whistleblower would mention involving Morgan, or hell, she could do it herself, if the crew thought she'd be open to the idea; but it's very, very clear where her loyalties are
and so it makes me think the video in the arboretum, isn't manipulated or influenced by Alex, they both had the same backup plan idea with the nullwave key, instead of just blowing Talos up
of course the testing and nueromod repetition, turned Morgan into more of "January Morgan"
I think the typhon was Morgan Yu at one point, having undergone too many tests and become mostly typhon themselves.
IDK if that is true, and if it IS actually the plot of this game, i was completly oblivious about it xD
it might be an odd thing to get hung up on especially since there's *also* another canon WLW relationship, but i really appreciate the fact that no matter the gender you pick for morgan, the past relationship with mikhaila is the same -- she doesn't swap to be the opposite gender, she isn't replaced with one of the male characters for a female morgan, she isn't presented as an ex of a male morgan but just an "old friend" of a female's. you'd think more games would do thinigs like that since it's just flat-out less work for the devs at the end of the day, but it's still nice to see in its own way
Bruh saaaaame.
with a whole paragraph you appreciate that they let her be gay. yea its a weirdly specific thing to point out lol
@@SobeCrunkMonster if a single paragraph daunts you I can't imagine how terrified you must be of the concept of queer studies or like. media analysis with cultural context in general. get well soon 💝
I played both sexes (Morgan doesn't express gender very much and the viewer can project whatever gender they like over either model) and I never even twigged that I had an ex girlfriend both times.
@@SobeCrunkMonster why would it be weird? Homosexuality was (and to some degree still is) a big taboo and to see it represented so casually here is nice
The typhons are such soft cosmic horror if you think about them enough.
I love the reflective tone of this video when you're describing Morgan's behaviour, a mix of regret vague curiosity, in regards to the things you/Morgan did/didn't do or find. It makes the story you're telling feel even more like a recounting of real life events than ever (and you already do a fantastic job at that) by adding the concept of 'what if' to the narrative, and I really enjoyed it!
Personally, I believe that the typhon got to earth during the events of the DLC expansion to the game, Prey: Mooncrash.
I also think that weather or not the station was destroyed, the cannon ending likely involved Morgan rescuing the crewmembers and everyone escaping on Dahl's shuttle, which can happen in either eventuality.
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Mooncrash spoilers ahead
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The events in Mooncrash all but confirm that at least one mimic made it to earth, as it is the goal of the telepath quest and one of the "true" character endings.
Mimics: * break out of containment *
Me: By Talos, this can’t be happening!
36:15 i was with January the entire time until i had that talk with Alex and he told me about the nullifier. When i saw there was a way to kill the Typon and save the humans i switch so fast
Yeah, but still freaking out after waking up on The Truman show; I went 'Oldboy' on January the first time it said, " Morgan." Different first impression of the game.
Once you start viewing you can only follow through to the end. Very humorous and enjoyable. 👍
The only trophies I didn't get in this game were the ones like, no neuromods, no Typhon powers, and stuff like that
Same. I hate being punished for using Nueromods for stuff like hacking and repairs or moving stuff. Otherwise what’s the point?
@@asneakylawngnome5792 same, I get the point of the challenge, but I don't have the time to play the game over and over to get good enough to play without them. That's exactly what it feels like, a punishment
@@damiancrowley569 yeah at the very least they should have done something where even though you are using typhon mods, the game would track the kills you made with them. So if you use those mods to do good, then that’s all that matters. Instead you’re punished for speccing into them in the first place.
I remember getting this game years after it came out. When I first saw it, it looked more like a horror game and those aren't really all that fun to me so I ignored it when it first came out. But then seeing some gameplay somewhere I was like "hmm this actually looks pretty fun and kinda like bioshock?" so I bought it and tried it out. I had pretty much avoided almost all spoilers except for seeing like the trailer and some gameplay of the typhons.
I was surprised by the opening of the game which was nice to not have it spoiled, and then I also choose the same path as you where when I heard about the disadvantage of removing a neuromod causing you to lose all said memories since getting it. In my mind (as the character I guess) it was like, okay so if I install a neuromod and then something happens like I find out I was lied to or tricked or something (again from what I could see) then they could just remove those neruomods and I wouldn't remember (though I technically would playing the game) so I decided against it and thought maybe later on I might. I never did and finished the game on my first play through without any neuromods. Then I went back and loaded up right before the end and installed as many as I could and tried them out a bit. :P
It was a fun game, was hoping for a sequel but wasn't gonna get DLC since I don't really like getting DLC for games (I prefer them to come with the DLC when I buy them when they are really old to begin with). So far it isn't looking good for a sequel though which stinks.
Great lore video and one of my favorite games of all time. I love how much it lets you piece things together for yourself. When I first played the game I got so spooked by the Typhon infested labs that I didn't really linger around. I missed several key pieces of information, including the xenogenic brain damage charts you can find in there.
When I later found them while in the neuromod removal chamber it all it so much harder. I hadn't pieced together that all of it was a simulation, and the thought of Morgan having caused irrepairable brain damage to themselves by injecting multiple neuromods sent chills down my spine.
There's so much to uncover in the game, and the more you dig the more you start to feel like the Talos I crew are the real monsters. If you dig the information of the test subject that you can free, you can piece together that this very american-sounding, english-named man is supposedly a prisoner from a Soviet camp...not impossible, but with all the lies they feed to you, to the world, to each other, who isn't to say that they just abducted random people for harvesting, perhaps even disgruntled TranStar workers...
It's a dark scifi masterpiece and one of those narratives that really only works as a video game.
I REALLY hope that this game gets a sequel at some point in the future.
Really love how you basically made a lets Play/commentary/explenation/summary/Humor thingy and its Really Fun to Listen to.
get ready, that's basically this channel
Ooh one of my favorite games, glad to see you take the time and dive in! Now I want to replay it again 😭
VERYYYYY UNDERRATED. you are the greatest gaming storyteller ever my dear, please DO NOT STOP!!!
Now, I really want to see how you handle Prey: Mooncrash. It does tell a lot of things.
Also watching this video made me realize how much I truly loved this game and love Arkane. Prey might be tied with Dishonored 2 for my favorite Arkane game
Stumbled across this and immediately binged the entire Resident Evil series you did. You have a fantastic style that I really haven't seen anywhere else. Definitely worth a sub and I'll recommend this channel to some friends too.
I really like that you played through this using the prospect of negative pragmatism. You went through the game not trying to do what would benefit the people that you happen to like and agree with most. But instead Trying to minimize the harm and possible consequences for everyone across-the-board. That's sort of altruistic Viewpoint is something that's very rarely available to the Player's Choice in most video games. But quite often the negative pragmatism choice is usually the best it's not about everyone gain their best option it's about everyone not getting the shittiest possible result and ends up killing everyone off
an hour long? you spoil us
you deserve so many more views, i love your voice and how well spoken you are, and your crystal clear explanations of complex lore!
Thank you so much!
My head cannon for what happened before the events of the game is a little more tragic.
I always thought that Morgan died during the experimentation. This broke Alex, realizing that his ambition caused the death of family, so he tried to recreate Morgan with the research he had dismissed. Alex's mental state wasn't stable and his mistakes brpught forth a failure and may have caused the breach. Then Alex came up with the simulation in a final attempt to clean up his mess.
Man this makes me wish prey 2 wasn't canceled
Wait,it did?!!
Thank you for covering one of my favorite games! I feel compelled to return to Talos I once again.
Just subscribed. I played Prey again for the first time in a few months today. Great to see someone else talk about this game/Arkane titles, great video.
Have you considered doing a video on transistor? Btw, mooncrash showed how the typhon got to earth.
Didnt think id find someone interested about this game in the same way as me! Only Dishonored gave the same gritty yet "silky-clean" vibes. Hope they release a sequel.
Sho was outside the pool window. If you do the chefs request side quest, you find Abby in the freezer, killed by the false chef. Her transcriber has a message from Sho saying to hit the window and she will feel the vibrations.
10/10. You're 100% my new favorite lore channel.
Incredibly underrated channel, hope you blow up soon
I killed myself on the helicopter the first time and I'm ashamed to say there is an achievement for it.
No Show.
Smooth move.
@@TiptoeTheTank Sometimes you need to know what a game will let you get away with... And jumping into rotating copter blades isn't one of those things.
This is the kind of video I’ve been looking for. There are so many games I want to know the story of and won’t be able to play. This was amazing. Thank you.
If there was one neuron mod that I can insert and remove is the one that is used to play this game. That way I can experience this game over and over without a memory of playing it before.
This game is absolutely fantastic. Right up there was a Alien Isolation.
Are you a telepath? :) Because that's exactly what I was thinking! I wish I could remove a neuromod to experience this game again, too!
Calibrating that big touch screen window.......Got me, really good. I mean really really good. I was just exploring, lost my way a few times and was just back tracking, havent seen anything to shoot in a while. Just found the room, was like oh hey, maybe I will see some important message.....The message was, new underwear.
What an amazing video!
Excellent storytelling, great gameplay, extended lore and humor.
Think about the ending. It doesn’t matter which choice you make with Alex, because the thing is… YOU’RE MAKING A CHOICE. The fact that it’s not indiscriminate killing means the mirror neurons worked!
Crazy how I've played this game through twice and yet half way through this video, the story went in a way I had never seen before. Like I never met Morgan's ex, or Dahl, I don't even remember talking to Dr Igwe. This game is crazier than I thought
I wonder what would happen if you hooked one or several human minds directly into the coral, what about different parts, would a mind in the heart of the coral have full control of the minds connected to other parts, would they be able to control the typhon, could it be used to make a hive mind if you took some of the coral and connected humans with it outside the coral on talos 1
Wow, I played this game in chunks and missed all of this. Thank you, I can’t get enough of your channel
This is personally my idea of how things went down in the game. Morgan follows January's objective of destroying Talos 1 but saves as many crew members as possible including the key personel put into operators. He kills the "Chef" and releases Aaron (the prisoner). And although in the end January is destroyed by Alex Morgan still chooses to spare Alex and leaves him unconscious with Alex waking up and using his personal escape pod before Talos 1 blew up. Morgan also uses Walter Dahl the others Morgan saved to escape. And while in can be speculated whether Morgan installs Typhon mods or not (I believe he installs none) he chooses to escape and unknowingly turns into the Phantom who Alex puts in the situation after returning to Earth due to the Typhon Mods he used taking over his body as Typhon consume anything... OR they got there safely but the mimic that used a prisoner (forgot his name) to escape in the Mooncrash DLC and eventually spread and took over Earth with the Phantom Alex used being one of the humans being one of the scientists Morgan saved only to be turned into a phantom later.
I also believe that Alex genuinely wanted humanity to make peace with the Typhon by getting them to experience what they were doing to other people from the human's side as he had lost his brother and although Alex was forced into a position where he had to ensure humanity's survival by forcing himself to try to put human emotions into the Typhon. With the Phantom Alex used to for the simulation begrudgingly accepting, not because it wanted to help a man who experimented on its race but because it felt shame for it's species actions and developed human emotions like Anger due to the experiments, kindness from helping humans and love from Ilyushin as a "Tragedy reunites old lovers" trope.
Edit : if you want to talk about any other things or explain how my reasoning as to Alex choosing to do the human emotions on a phantom im willing to answer questions.
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I feel like Chief while hes in cryo getting video essays and game synopsis from Cortana
Just discovered your stuff, enjoying this. Not sure if it helps, but it's pronounced Ar-buh-reee-tum. Emphasis on the 3rd syllable. Cheers!!!
First video I’ve seen from you. Subbed in the intro because of how beautiful and soothing your voice is. Keep going for sure!!!
Just a quick comment. Arboretum is pronounced like "harbor"
Arbor is a prefix meaning trees. Arboretum basically means tree garden.
I felt like she was trolling us saying it like that lol..I kept laughing when she said it
@@DoNkEy_LoVE if she was trolling, its not funny because there is no veil being lifted to let the audience in on the joke. Not a great thing to do for a channel that wants to grow off of well scripted and informative content.
I wanted to add a special mention to the multiple other hints throughout the game that you are not who you think you are:
- If you have subtitles on, you can see that the phantoms are repeating phrases spoken by humans. At first I thought they were quoting the people they killed... but they were actually quoting speech that only happens in the future. Various NPCs in the cargo bay will state-- for the very first time-- all of the dialogue that you've been hearing the phantoms say since the start of the game. We don't know for sure if the phantoms spoke at all outside of the simulation... but I think it was meant to be a big hint that something was "off" when you heard those lines as if they were fresh. How did the phantoms hear those phrases if they had never been spoken before? My theory is that the words come from Morgan's own memory, and they had been injected into the sim to give humanlike traits to the typhon to further test Typhon Morgan. The alteration of space and time really horrified me the first time I encountered that and I couldn't take my eyes off the screen for a while. I literally kept saying "The fuck?"
The eeriest thing about their dialogue is that it applies to both humans and typhon, further hinting at your true identity.
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- I don't know if anyone else ever encountered this, but I found it to be super interesting and I really hope it was not a bug (but a feature!): I found a phantom somewhere in one of the offices above the lobby, I can't remember exactly where. I started beating on it, but then it ran away. I chased after it like a bloodthirsty madman, ready to cave its head in, but when I found it... it was crouched in one of the rooms, hiding from me. It even let me get close to it before it lashed out at me again. This seriously fucked with my head the first time I encountered it and I really did have a moment of empathy for the creatures I was hunting. If that was intentional, goddamn, that was a good hint at the ending and at what species you're actually playing as.
- Sometimes the phantoms call to Morgan by name. I don't think that's necessarily a hint, but it did give me the chills. I did imagine that the typhon "knew" me and were trying to reach me somehow.
- There are a couple of times where the screen flickers for an instant and shows a very brief image. There's even one right after Alex turns Typhon Morgan around in the chair to show him/her the current state of Earth, and there's a few instances of it on the menu screen I think? I assume it's a form of subliminal messaging.
Hey, sorry to bother u after it's been a while. Hopefully this is still ur jam? Phantoms likely see and hear into the future, which is shown in the cargobay when you hear some of the phantom dialogue spoken by human npcs and also implied by some transcribes indicating that typhon don't follow the rules of space and time, such as the theory of mimics using wormholes and the mooncrash mimic that kept producing shoes from a parallel shoe dimension. Neuromods also seem to have different secondary affects based on who's getting them, such as Morgan's ability to better hear phantom voices the more neuromods he uses and Luka's transcribes to Morgan about the future of Typhon taking Earth. Though, Luka is a bit mad even before neuromod testing, so it's hard to know if it's an ability or insanity. I mean that is the guy that bit a researcher's finger off and swallowed it.
I love the use of stream clips to illustrate how masterful the prologue of this game is
The only thing that really happened, I think, was Morgan in the hamster wheel and died. We see a Typhon mimic phase through glass, but then later they can’t, THAT is the change that Alex makes to allow a typhon to live out their adventure
Very underrated channel, very underrated game.
Easily one of my favorites
20 mins in, this explanation is exactly what I want in order to experience the lore and how participate into a discussion about a 2017 game about brainwashing an alien to be human so we can use them to get our earth back….
Wait, I have played through this game several times, including a 100% playthrough and I never realized is was all a simulation...
The pop culture references during the game play clip are great you ma’am are a woman of glass. The Simpson the Truman Show heck yeah
That Glas Door.
My mind = blown
Did Morgan ever make a November operator? If so, I wonder what protocol it would have. To my knowledge, he went from October straight to December.
Just found your channel and this is so good! Great mix of recap and overview with just the right mix of personality.
I'm in the middle of the Simulation START section and you're describing it like T-Morgan is aware that they aren't exactly R-Morgan so I'm going to run this by you. if your (as a Typhon) memories (I'm assuming typhon make memories, which should be correct) were to be overwritten; completely erased and replaced with Morgan Yu's, like a save file, I guess, would the personality that comes out be A). your personality (the Typhon side) with completely different memories, or B). Morgan's actual personality (the side of Morgan) thought processes and all. there is no wrong answer per se. (only your answer.) I'm not just asking tiptoe the tank; I'm asking anyone and everyone. reply to this comment to answer.
Wat
If the Typhon implanted with Morgan Yu's memories is the Typhon with Morgan Yu's aspects or Morgan Yu in essence having taken over a Typhon body, the answer would still be reliant on which is more dominant which really depends on how many Neuromods of Morgan Yu were implanted into the Typhon. The way I see it, it's an alien mind being guided by Morgan Yu's morality, a mix of both, as it under our influence, our mindset, we would try many things as failure teaches us the best path. The mind is Typhon guided by Morgan Yu's humanity.
Can personality be determined by memory? That's more philosophical than i thought... Should be, at the end people with multiple personality disorder all have different memory and backstory
@@HangMrH But yet our body is driven by instinctual urges, in that we cannot help ourselves to do what is needed to be done. But the nature of neuromods fades the border of what's possible. Can one overcome a body's urges with someone else's memories or maybe even false memories? Wouldn't experiencing Typhon neuromods in essence be reawakening Typhon Yu's instincts within the simulation?
I sacrifice these words to the Great Algorhythm.
you deserve more attention. this is so well told. Fantastic
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I completely missed that, I was just looking around the room and looked through the window after and was like: “oh there is a phantom in there, I should go in there after I’m done with the rest of this place?
I also wish you had a steam archive channel, id rather see you play the game for the first time now after seeing your clip
If you head over to playlists, you'll find the Stream playlist. It has nearly every stream VOD.
You can check it out here: ua-cam.com/play/PL0bfzfGWUy8kPIwTjAE4cFPzoo7cRpHPi.html
@@Viryl_TV Ahhh thanks for pointing that out
This has been honestly the best analysis I've seen about Prey so far.
In the Moon crash DLC shown that when Riley was escaping on the Escape shuttle that he carried a Tyson with him to Earth so I highly believe that he is the one who actually caused the Earth outbreak
It would really be funny if Morgan Yu kill them all in the end ahahaha. Like imagine you (Morgan Yu) keep all the people safe and like do the right things then just kill them all in the end hahahah!
How I think Prey happened (not the simulation, how it actually went) ALSO I HAD TO CUT THIS INTO 2 PARTS BECAUSE UA-cam IS A PAIN IN THE ASS. PART 1/2
tl;dr Morgan breaks free and follows January, but finds and keeps the escape pod key just in case. He spares and helps any human he can as he does not remember any previous biases he had. He is fooled by the cook but later lets the cook kill himself. Later on, he captures and rewrites the memory of Dahl and activates the nullwave prototype. He did not use any typhon neuromods, so he is spared from the wave. Morgan, Alex, Danielle, Michaila, the cargo bay people and Igwe are the only survivors of Talos 1, sadly Earth nor Transtar does not heed their warning. Destroying the Apex angered the hivemind and the Typhon devastate Earth. A single mimic is able to escape Pytheas and land on Earth, in doing so giving the main hivemind a way to find Earth. Danielle, Igwe and Michaila are killed (and likely Morgan), before they are however they perform brain scans on all of themselves. Alex, the sole survivor of Talos 1, finally begins the Cobalt protocol, Phantom Morgan (aka the player) shakes Alex's hand.
Pre-Outbreak:
- Morgan (Male) and Alex both agree to develop typhon based neuromods, at first it is genuine cooperation
- Dayo Igwe is hired to aid with the project, mostly because he's cheap. He is let in on most of the project, but is left purposely ignorant about Morgan's experiments on himself, he is however informed of prisoners being used to harvest exotic material.
- Morgan kills Michaila's father by using him as experiment for exotic material
- Morgan, before testing, had began a flirting relationship with Michaila (however its spelt) but cut it off rather abruptly
- Morgan has successfully learned to harness Typhon neuromods, or at least basic ones like Lift Field, and probably some lesser neuromods like remote manipulation
- Morgan and Alex record the recording seen in Alex's office
- Morgan goes through his first memory wipe, and while his personality is still intact, his memories are not
- Chief Elezar, and Danielle Sho both of their own volition notice Morgan's strange behavior and begin separate investigations
- Michaela tries to interact with Morgan, but is heartbroken when he does not even recognize her
- Morgan's first neuromods are removed, he is reverted back to how he was at the beginning of this story.
- Reverted Morgan (aka October Morgan) asks employees questions he had not too long ago asked them, Morgan is able to piece together that his memories have been altered
- October Morgan agrees to continue the project despite this, yet in secret creates the October Operator and keeps the fabrication plan for the Nullwave prototype stored within it, as October Morgan fears Alex would rather destroy the ship and try to pretend his failures never happened in the case of a full typhon outbreak
- October Morgan is destroyed as Neuromod testing resumes, likely at an accelerated pace and using stronger neuromods (ex. Kinetic blast, superthermal etc. In the mooncrash dlc we know Transtar knows about the exotic typhon, so this isnt out of the question)
- November Morgan maintains his personality, but lacks even more of his memories. Finding this out, he creates the November Operator which primarily tells Morgan not to trust Alex, or his family. He may have recorded the various logs found in his room about various crew members during this time, as he talks about how you *already* rejected Michaila and she blames it on her Paraplexis. Meaning he had already rejected her before making said recording.
- Sometime before the Neuromod outbreak (or perhaps immediately after), Alex is able to locate and destroy the November Operator, ensuring it never encounters Morgan. He does however keep the Neuromod Prototype fabrication plan, just in case, as the words of November do affect his viewpoint in some capacity.
- Morgan is put back into the tests, and begins to become ever more erratic, using ever more exotic neuromods (most notably, mimic matter, as the test we see Morgan use wants him to turn into a chair). Once again, Morgan is able to breach containment and (likely before November is found by Alex) creates the December Operator, as he (likely influenced by November) does not trust anyone, and wants Morgan to gtfo and rush for Earth to warn the population before Transtar can stop him.
- November is (likely) destroyed at this point, and Morgan is recovered. Alex and the security team attempt to locate other Operators, but cannot find them.
- December Morgan is destroyed, now we have January Morgan who again tests neuromods but now, they went and reverted Morgan too far back, now he can only use basic neuromods. January Morgan is slightly more sound of mind than December/November, and is able to create January, who is created to aid Morgan in escaping the simulation permanently, this charade has gone on long enough.
Prey 2017 deserves a sequel, any game as good as this that had its marketing managed competently would have done gangbusters.
Prey 2017 is sort of a sequel to Arx Fatalis in that it further develops the design philosophy that Arx laid down. There will no doubt be more, whether or not we return to the same universe.
How I think Prey happened (not the simulation, how it actually went) PART 2/2
tl;dr Morgan breaks free and follows January, but finds and keeps the escape pod key just in case. He spares and helps any human he can as he does not remember any previous biases he had. He is fooled by the cook but later lets the cook kill himself. Later on, he captures and rewrites the memory of Dahl and activates the nullwave prototype. He did not use any typhon neuromods, so he is spared from the wave. Morgan, Alex, Danielle, Michaila, the cargo bay people and Igwe are the only survivors of Talos 1, sadly Earth nor Transtar does not heed their warning. Destroying the Apex angered the hivemind and the Typhon devastate Earth. A single mimic is able to escape Pytheas and land on Earth, in doing so giving the main hivemind a way to find Earth. Danielle, Igwe and Michaila are killed (and likely Morgan), before they are however they perform brain scans on all of themselves. Alex, the sole survivor of Talos 1, finally begins the Cobalt protocol, Phantom Morgan (aka the player) shakes Alex's hand.
During the Outbreak:
- The outbreak begins during normal testing, Alex is able to keep Morgan safe within the simulation while he attempts to get the situation under control
- Alex does not get the situation under control...
- Psychotronics is where the containment breach begins, some asshat probably didnt have their Psychoscope on correctly and were attacked by a mimic.
- Mimics spread across the lobby of Talos 1, undetected, before attacking the Neuromod Division. The alarm is finally activated.
- Airlocks are locked from the outside, in case Typhon tried to spread from the outside.
- The mimics spread and attack the Arboretum, Alex locks himself within his quarters.
- The mimics attack both crew quarters and hardware labs at roughly the same time.
- The security team is able to *briefly* hold back the Typhon in Crew Quarters. The team however is limited on supplies and eventually makes a break for the Cargo Bay.
- They are successful, mostly due to setting up turrets along the way towards the elevator.
- Meanwhile, Danielle's girlfriend is one of the crew members who survive the initial skirmish, during the panic, "The Cook" escapes Psychotronics and makes his way to Crew Quarters disguised as said cook. Not long after Security leaves, he kills Danielle's girlfriend.
- Danielle (who was likely already in space when the outbreak began) attempts to get in contact with her GF, but she loses connection.
- Sometime after Security makes it to the Cargo Bay, Telepaths attack those who stayed behind, it is unknown how they got in but considering there's a technopath in the Arboretum blocking the elevator, its not too much of a jump to say said technopath let the telepath in and locked the door behind it so no crew members could escape, then going to block the elevator.
- Morgan Yu awakens from the simulation and escapes, finds January, equips a psychoscope and does *not* use Typhon neuromods, mostly because this would be pre-Talos 1 Morgan, so he would have no reason to *want* to inject himself with alien material, especially after he believes Alex trapped him in a simulation loop.
- Morgan spares the prisoner within Psychotronics, as A. He does not ever remember performing said experiments, and B. Can surmise that the prisoner's bio is a lie, due to the prisoners name and southern accent not at all matching with the soviet description of the bio. The prisoner does likely die on his own however (he did for me at least when I revisited the area)
- Morgan locates and uses all the human weaponry available, idk about the golden pistol though, and injects himself with nearly if not all human based neuromods during the journey.
- Morgan does his best to save those he can in Crew Quarters, though how many he is able to save if any is unknown. He is betrayed by the cook however. He does locate Danielle Sho, and she does make it back on the station (as her mind has to get eventually copied, meaning it has to either happen on Talos, or she gets to Earth), he does eventually kill the Cook.
- Morgan saves Igwe, though probably doesnt take the time to get the pianists neuromods, as they're quite out of his way at this point. Though it really doesnt change anything if he does or doesnt.
- Morgan saves Michaila with the booster shot, and eventually tells her the truth about her father (he would likely feel guilty as well, realizing now the dead prisoners were his fault)
- Morgan hears Alex out, but does steal his escape pod key from his room while he was in Crew Quarters.
- Morgan destroys KASPAR, but kees Dahl alive long enough for him to prep the shuttle for launch.
- Morgan saves Alex from suffocation, and creates the Nullwave.
- Morgan confronts his forgotten memories/past head on, deciding his own future, he destroys January and while not necessary doing it for his brother, activates the nullwave device, as the research gained on the typhon will have made Morgan's memory loss worth it all, and the nullwave's themselves will be their only hope against the Typhon.
Post-Outbreak:
- Dahl evacuates Danielle, Igwe, and Michaila off of Talos 1. Morgan and Alex also leave eventually, but likely stay behind to clean up loose ends (critical damage to the ship, backing up data aboard the ship etc in case Talos *is* destroyed etc)
- Alex's younger sister, Riley Yu, is killed attempting to escape the Pytheas moonbase, a backup of her consciousness is able to survive but is captured by a rival company, it is unknown whether or not this copy survived the mooncrash, though it is possible. (also the moon shark is likely killed by her using the nullwave pylon)
- A single mimic escapes the Pytheas moonbase in an escape pod, it is able to multiply using the now dead volunteer subject Andrius Alekna in its escape pod
- Security Chief Batia escapes Pytheas by using the Mass Driver, but before doing so kills a spy attempting to escape Pytheas. It is unknown if he makes it back to Earth, but he at least escapes the base before it is completely lost
- Joan Winslow escapes after finding out the experiments performed by Transtar, she escapes by commandeering the last remaining shuttle and using a piloting neuromod.
- Talos 1 is for the most part operational again
- Morgan and Alex confront the board of directors, while Danielle, Michaila and Igwe (with help of Morgans research) present their case to the world governments to prepare for a potential Typhon invasion, and to arrest the board of directors for crimes against humanity.
- Imo, it is likely that the world governments did not take their claims of an incoming invasion seriously, and the research of Talos 1 was figuratively buried, nobody would learn the truth until it was too late.
- We dont know if Transtar faces any consequences for their actions, but I'd like to assume to even though they probably don't because they're too big to fail.
- The destruction of the Apex alerts the galactic Typhon hivemind, and the invasion of Earth begins
- Morgan and Alex are *probably* on a repaired Talos 1 as this happens, or in Jail. This is my headcanon, take it how you will.
- IF on Talos 1, Morgan and Alex are blinded by the return of the Typhon, and Alex is able to escape using his personal escape pod (Morgan kept it on him just in case)
(also its my headcanon that Morgan dies saving Alex, getting him off station before the Typhon completely destroy Talos 1, tearing it apart)
- IF on Earth/Prison, Morgan and Alex escape during the carnage and eventually are able to make it to said underground bunker thing we see him in at the end of the simulation.
- Earth's forces are devastated, and during the ensuing chaos, Danielle, Igwe, Michaila and Alex are able to meet back up (although the actual Morgan's fate is left ambiguous, he may have taken typhon neuromods after all and died because of the nullwave, or perhaps he died during the invasion)
- As the invasion worsens, Igwe recalls project Cobalt, and suggests the idea to Alex. Alex, out of other options, initiates the project by capturing a phantom and injecting it slowly with memories and behavioral patterns of Morgan Yu.
- Either Danielle, Igwe, and Michaila are not physically present for this event, or they are killed sometime during the invasion but before dying have their consciousness uploaded to various operators (likely a precautionary measure, as was the case with Riley Yu)
- For the most part, the simulation is a success, and Alex creates Phantom Morgan, a Phantom that is convinced it is Morgan Yu, even changing it's appearance as much as it can to shake Alex's hand.
- Now it is up to Typhon Morgan and Alex Yu to repel the Typhon from Earth, just as they did aboard Talos 1 years prior.
- After this, ???
In the reactor control room and when you go to the arboretum, you can just blast the floaties with glue and they will fall and shatter. Gloo is the most OP WEAPON IN GAME!
33:45 - I haven't seen anyone else point this out, but it sounds like you're implying the Alex in real life was speaking through or somehow controlling the Alex in the simulation. I'm not positive, but I really don't think this is the case, mostly because of a line spoken by Alex responding to the Sarah Elazar Operator in the judgment scene if you activate the Nullwave Transmitter but still decide to kill Alex:
Sarah Elazar: "Alex. It killed you."
Alex Yu: "Back then, I would have done the same thing to me."
This clearly indicates that the simulated Alex is a recreation of who he was during the Talos events in my view. I believe Alex guiding Morgan towards a neuromod then was simply him trying to help you survive, aware that there was already a Typhon presence inside Morgan at the time and that doubling down on it may not make a difference; if it was truly Alex aware of what it meant for the (Typhon) Morgan, he has no reason not to explain the potential dangers of choosing the Typhon powers route, unless you believe that the judges at the end were hoping that the Typhon-Morgan would somehow justify avoiding them without being given any rationale as to why.
Awesome video!
The biggest question I have about the game is what happened to real Morgan. Is he dead? Is Typhon Morgan the real Morgan? I know that at some point in the game someone said "he is not the one" (when you try to escape I think), and we know that they've done a lot of testing on Typhons, but perhaps Alex was looking for the Typhon that was his brother once before he was killed and turned... Also, why are some people turned into Phantoms and others are not? Wouldn't the Typhon turn each corpse into a Phantom to find Morgan faster and kill him? Does it have something to do with the number of neuromods installed? Or the person they used to be? I kinda have a feeling that "bad" characters are easily turned into Phantoms.
This game still fascinates me after such a long time. I wish they made a sequel, but I sincerely doubt that. Would not mind a book or a movie either. There are so many interesting characters aboard Talos I, I'd be fun to hear their side of the story, too.
so i know this video is 2 years old and someone in the hundreds of comments might have mentioned already, but the morgan offering their mind/genes/experiences was kinda foreshadowed by a voice log where morgan is actually talking about the project and its potential to develop mirror neurons, and thus empathy, in the typhon. it's also confirmed that trevor young (the guy mind controlled in a cell in trauma center) is the one who released the typhon. there is an email in trauma about it, but it's given more detail in game files:
"Trevor J. Young [location coordinates] This is the worker who walked into an experiment in Psychotronics without a psychoscope. He was touched by a telepath and open(sic) a containment cell that contained a mimic, starting the outbreak on Talos. He was put under observation in psychotronics, determined to not be suffering under any adverse effects, and had his neruomods uninstalled, wiping his memory. He was put into the quarantine in trauma for futher observation until Alex can figure out what to do with him."
aaaalso Mikhaila does not receive neuromods. there are some emails where people gossip about it. paraplexis causes the symptoms she experiences on its own.
this explains so much, I watched a few playthroughs and got the game myself (didn't finish because I bungled up the mission to save the crew/stun the merc captain before the Apex Typhon arrives), so when I tried the escape pod from Alex's office I always got a message saying "damn we need to try again, this isn't the right one" which I always thought was a funny easteregg saying how it wasn't the right ending but now I know it's Alex saying that it's not the right way to solve the puzzle as a human. thanks for answering one thing that intrigued me for a while now
I played a few hours but gameplay is so boring i quit, luckily we have this awesome channel about lore which btw turned out to be freaking boring itself but i like her voice
@@tzzeek dunno, I love binging on this site, the storytelling is rivetting, sometimes I a am just so focused I can't do anything else but listen and I usually just come on UA-cam for background noise while I play games but these videos have me enthralled by her delivery. to each their own I guess
@@Nobody_Fn_Important Oh i love her too. I was just saying the lore on the game was boring but still her storytelling captured my atention.
Ooooo very nice!
Next you should do Prey (2006)
I only say because I love your videos. I'm still working on Ori (my kids use my switch more than I do do it's taking a little while lol)