Looking forward to the rest of the series, but I’m also interested in Sith lightsaber forms if they had any. We hear lots about the 7 Jedi forms but as you pointed out in the video, the forms are as much philosophies as they were martial arts. Sith philosophy is so wildly different that their lightsaber forms must reflect that even if many Sith started as Jedi.
the Jedi and Sith didn't have their own forms, generally they used the same ones Form VII Juyo was a Sith favorite. Now after the old jedi orrder was destroyed and once it was reformed by Luke the form styles changed up a good bit with three main styles known as Strong Style, Medium Style, and Fast Style then of course there were a bunch of unorthodox and hybrid forms and the Sith did come up with some of their own like the Dun Moch technique
If you read the Book of Sith, Darth Bane wrote about three distinct Sith styles, Strong Style (basically his Djem So), Fast Style (which seemed based around using Soresu to tire out an opponent), and Juyo, since that form emphasised a controlled ferocity, ideal for a Sith
They have the same forms and techniques, but different philosophies. A dark side uses of Shii-Cho would submit to the dark side and lean into the aggressive tendencies of the form to dismember rather than disarm.
This is probably my favorite description of Shii Cho. Other videos just talk about its simplicity or paint it as a chaotic, hard to control, and wild style. But, you make it seem peaceful and much like a flow state. This video single handedly made Form 1 my favorite form of the 7. Keep it simple, have faith in the force, and push forward with determination. Love it.
Oh man, this is quite the coincidence, I was just talking to someone earlier today about some of the different Lightsaber Forms to explain why so many Jedi and Sith use Sabers instead of just relying on the Force in combat because different issues require different techniques. Also, Lightsabers are cool weapons so the characters better use them a lot other wise what's the point in having them. Now I'm excited for the rest of this series. :)
Coincidences, coincidences, kwinky-dinks... So, ready for what's coming on a certain school? Still standing aloft and proud despite the weekly whammies? Prepared any anti-anomalous meds and tech in case things go whirligig?
@@michaelandreipalon359 I'm as prepared as I'll ever be. But I can't help but worry about not just the school, but about the Owl House itself since I'm a fan of Power Rangers and the base/home getting destroyed is a classic part/trope of that series, and after spending so much time at both these locations, one of them being the home of our heroes, to see them destroyed and possibly set ablaze will be heartbreaking if it happens.
@@michaelandreipalon359 I hope so. Although, if their home is destroyed they'll have to find a place to crash until the Day of Unity begins. Maybe they could stay with the Bat Queen or do what was done in that fan comic and Amity lets them stay at Blight Manor where they proceed to drive Odalia nuts, that would defiantly help defuse some of the tension that has been on high for the last two episodes.
Lol what a coincidence, just yesterday I thought about doing some Lightsaber Form research, this comes in perfectly! I'm definitely looking forward to the next Episodes! :D
I've always been interested in the different lightsaber forms but not interested enough to go research it myself so thank you for doing this series can't wait for the rest
I'm very excited for the rest of the series. Well done Geetsly! My only complaint is the lack of touching on the Emotional Heat that made specialization in Shii-Cho as dangerous at Juyo at the higher levels and the distinction between Ideal Form I, the Tutorial form, and Live Combat Form I, which I'm glad was the focus here, as it doesnt get as much recognition.
@@geetslys since you are going into the philosophical aspects of the forms, I'd recommend looking into what I think is the unique Makashi version Center of Being in the Clone wars episode "Nightsisters". I don't think anyone has ever covered that before.
The way you describe how Shii-cho works, makes it sound like the way Qui-Gon-Jinn taught Kenobi how to fight with lightsabers (simple fighting style, don't be fancy, don't overextend yourself, etc.) I wonder if Obi-Wan incorporated elements of Shii-cho into his Soresu form, later on, like a hybrid style of some sorts?
Clearly it didn't work since Obi-Wan still went with Ataru until Qui-Gon's death. But he did employ it to some degree but not hybridizing it like you're suggesting it.
With the exception of those preferring Niman, which is essentially a hybrid form from the get-go, few lightsaber duelist, if any, would be sticking strictly to just one form. Any jedi knight worth their salt would have definitely learned more than one form after all, & it's just impractical for one to try to exclude everything else they've picked up, just because those moves ain't a key element of their preferred form.
Definitely looking forward to it - All 7 forms of lightsaber combat. Though form VII may take two videos... And the different styles that were used by the Sith, too. There's a lot of stuff to discover.
I've seen many videos on all the lightsaber forms, but this series has done Form 1 it's true justice and understanding of it's philosophy. I'm *super* excited for the rest of this series, as it's already introducing a amazing start.
I just want to know what every form's main pose is. Like form 2 is holding the blade outward and forward, form 3 is perpendicular to your outstretched arm (Obi Wan's combat pose), form 4 is holding it upright in both hands on your right side, etc.
Thank you for this video. Has anyone here played Jade Empire on the original Xbox? A kung-fu RPG from BioWare, right after they made KOTOR. In Jade Empire, one of the fighting styles you can use is called "White Demon," a slow but powerful style that, according to the in-game lore, seems to have a lot of parallels with the Jedi Shi-Cho style. Deliberate, measured, calculated, etc. No doubt BioWare took some inspiration from the Star Wars universe.
I hear that one of the weaknessss of jarkaii is you can only apply one arm strength. If you're stronger or more skilled than your oppoenent then its a good idea but if not then two arms is highly recommended
So the lightsaber forms are more like Katas combined with Tai Chi? A form of choreography meant for establishing muscle movement memorization, to develop and train a type of mental state, and to strengthen one's spirit.
All the forms would have Katas, with single person sets called Dulons, and paired forms called Velocities and would have Internal aspects, similar to TaiJi and other NeiJia arts, as shown in the Jedi flow excercise.
This kinda reminds me of the series done by Jensaraai1, but more simplified and less lore drowning as he often does (not that it's a bad thing the way he does it).
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Ever since I saw the Clone Wars movie, I was fascinated with lightsaber combat. I noticed the differences between the fighting style of Anakin and Dooku during their duel on Tatooine, same with the duel between Obi-Wan and Ventress on Teth. I always wanted to know what different lightsaber combat forms and now I get to find out
Hey i was wondering if you could make a vid on how Anakin brought balance to the force but his descendants fought other sith in legends? this has always been something that confused me.
Y'know I've got to ask scince we're talking about Lightsaber forms here, what would your style/form be? I myself would use a combination of form 3's stonch defense and form 2's masterful footwoork and redirection while using the force incorporation of form 6 (more so on the mental side such as casting illusions to throw an opponent of guard.) To confuse my opponent and either wait for or create an opening before using the blinding speed of form 4 and the precise attacks of form 2 in order to end a duel quickly.
I have a weird question: what would happen if you were on a spacewalk , strapped to the ship and the ship enters hyperspace?, or if the door was opened would you still be sucked out?
If you take a way the stage fencing aspects, a bit better than one might thing. -Shii-Cho lines up pretty well methods that someone with a longsword or larger swords would used to fight multiple opponents. - Makashi is similar to Victorian saber and Renaissance rapier. - Soresu is similar to tai chi dao. - Ataru is similar to French cane and savate. - Djem So is similar to German longsword while Shien is similar to Italian longsword. - Niman is similar to Eskrima. - Joyo/Vapaad really doesn't have a parallel.
I see I would want to be a species that can live for a very long time but at least isn't the size of Yoda and that is somewhat kind of strong enforce but not like overpowered but due to my extreme lifespan I would focus myself on my swordsmanship and try the master if not master all seven forms of lightsaber combat therefore I would have flaws of course like I would put others before myself and try to protect my fellow Jedi and one day my clone troopers from harm but I just think it'd be awesome to be a master of all 7 forms and I wouldn't even want to be on the high council like I'd rather just be a sentinel like even if the high council actually personally asked me to join them I would deny them.
Schii-Cho was favorised by: Kit Fisto Nahdar Vebb Kento Marek Jaden Korr Meetra Surik Lucien Draay And probably Jaro Tapal and his padawan Cal Kestis even if it is not precised by any material sources.
Lightsabers are cool in a way that, when presented with the clunkiest, most unstable, most generally crappy version of one, the Jedi were still all like, "We need to incorporate this glowstick into our religion, somehow."
You mention that the form was created when they didn't have to worry about dark side users of the blade, but didn't the dark siders create the protosaber and the jedi took it from them?
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Kit Fisto's lightsaber form may be elegant, but those tentacle dreadlocks of his are something else tho.
And that constant smile of his is a blessing.
They didn't call Kit Fisto a living martial hurricane for nothing.
The most impressive thing about his fighting is that he avoids any of them getting cut off by himself or an opponent
True! But you can't forget his charming personality and killer smile. So handsome!
He's such a Chad 😂🥵
Looking forward to the rest of the series, but I’m also interested in Sith lightsaber forms if they had any. We hear lots about the 7 Jedi forms but as you pointed out in the video, the forms are as much philosophies as they were martial arts. Sith philosophy is so wildly different that their lightsaber forms must reflect that even if many Sith started as Jedi.
the Jedi and Sith didn't have their own forms, generally they used the same ones
Form VII Juyo was a Sith favorite. Now after the old jedi orrder was destroyed and once it was reformed by Luke the form styles changed up a good bit with three main styles known as Strong Style, Medium Style, and Fast Style
then of course there were a bunch of unorthodox and hybrid forms and the Sith did come up with some of their own like the Dun Moch technique
If you read the Book of Sith, Darth Bane wrote about three distinct Sith styles, Strong Style (basically his Djem So), Fast Style (which seemed based around using Soresu to tire out an opponent), and Juyo, since that form emphasised a controlled ferocity, ideal for a Sith
@@murderousintent7838 Luke taught his Jedi like they were Hisuian Pokémon, apparently.
@@demi-femme4821 nice
They have the same forms and techniques, but different philosophies. A dark side uses of Shii-Cho would submit to the dark side and lean into the aggressive tendencies of the form to dismember rather than disarm.
This is probably my favorite description of Shii Cho. Other videos just talk about its simplicity or paint it as a chaotic, hard to control, and wild style. But, you make it seem peaceful and much like a flow state. This video single handedly made Form 1 my favorite form of the 7.
Keep it simple, have faith in the force, and push forward with determination. Love it.
Oh man, this is quite the coincidence, I was just talking to someone earlier today about some of the different Lightsaber Forms to explain why so many Jedi and Sith use Sabers instead of just relying on the Force in combat because different issues require different techniques. Also, Lightsabers are cool weapons so the characters better use them a lot other wise what's the point in having them.
Now I'm excited for the rest of this series. :)
Coincidences, coincidences, kwinky-dinks...
So, ready for what's coming on a certain school? Still standing aloft and proud despite the weekly whammies? Prepared any anti-anomalous meds and tech in case things go whirligig?
@@michaelandreipalon359 I'm as prepared as I'll ever be.
But I can't help but worry about not just the school, but about the Owl House itself since I'm a fan of Power Rangers and the base/home getting destroyed is a classic part/trope of that series, and after spending so much time at both these locations, one of them being the home of our heroes, to see them destroyed and possibly set ablaze will be heartbreaking if it happens.
They'll manage.
Hahaha lightsabers are awesome!
@@michaelandreipalon359 I hope so.
Although, if their home is destroyed they'll have to find a place to crash until the Day of Unity begins. Maybe they could stay with the Bat Queen or do what was done in that fan comic and Amity lets them stay at Blight Manor where they proceed to drive Odalia nuts, that would defiantly help defuse some of the tension that has been on high for the last two episodes.
Lol what a coincidence, just yesterday I thought about doing some Lightsaber Form research, this comes in perfectly! I'm definitely looking forward to the next Episodes! :D
Perfect for you my man!!!
I've always been interested in the different lightsaber forms but not interested enough to go research it myself so thank you for doing this series can't wait for the rest
You’re welcome 😇
God this channel never disappoints I just finished rereading Plagueis and lightsabers are just on my mind rn 😂
Hahahahah I’m so glad you feel that way about us 😂🙏
The Senate has mastered all forms of lightsaber combat.
I'm very excited for the rest of the series. Well done Geetsly! My only complaint is the lack of touching on the Emotional Heat that made specialization in Shii-Cho as dangerous at Juyo at the higher levels and the distinction between Ideal Form I, the Tutorial form, and Live Combat Form I, which I'm glad was the focus here, as it doesnt get as much recognition.
Appreciate the feedback man!
@@geetslys totally stoked for the series! I cant wait to see how you tackle Juyo vs Vapaad.
@@geetslys since you are going into the philosophical aspects of the forms, I'd recommend looking into what I think is the unique Makashi version Center of Being in the Clone wars episode "Nightsisters". I don't think anyone has ever covered that before.
This sounds like an awesome series can’t wait for form V
Shii-Cho seems like it would be extremely easy to start learning, but difficult to master to the point of being viable in harder battles.
Lucien Draay, Meetra Surik, and Kit Fisto were among the Jedi who preferred this form.
This is my favorite video series I think this channel’s ever done, and we’ve only seen one video
The way you describe how Shii-cho works, makes it sound like the way Qui-Gon-Jinn taught Kenobi how to fight with lightsabers (simple fighting style, don't be fancy, don't overextend yourself, etc.) I wonder if Obi-Wan incorporated elements of Shii-cho into his Soresu form, later on, like a hybrid style of some sorts?
Clearly it didn't work since Obi-Wan still went with Ataru until Qui-Gon's death. But he did employ it to some degree but not hybridizing it like you're suggesting it.
With the exception of those preferring Niman, which is essentially a hybrid form from the get-go, few lightsaber duelist, if any, would be sticking strictly to just one form. Any jedi knight worth their salt would have definitely learned more than one form after all, & it's just impractical for one to try to exclude everything else they've picked up, just because those moves ain't a key element of their preferred form.
@@FalconWindblader You replying to me or to the other guy?
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@@FalconWindblader Didn't tag anyone lol.
Definitely looking forward to it - All 7 forms of lightsaber combat. Though form VII may take two videos... And the different styles that were used by the Sith, too.
There's a lot of stuff to discover.
"Be like water, my friend"
- Jedi Master Broo Clee
So happy to hear that your covering the other forms in detail. Form 2 is Dookus form so I’m looking forward to that
I've seen many videos on all the lightsaber forms, but this series has done Form 1 it's true justice and understanding of it's philosophy. I'm *super* excited for the rest of this series, as it's already introducing a amazing start.
Sick, love the idea of this already.
Liking this so much
Woot! I love these types of discussions. Form 2 is next. Makashi.
So I can look forward to ep. 6, Niman!
I hope after you go over the other Jedi forms, you go over Sith Lightsaber Combat
I just want to know what every form's main pose is. Like form 2 is holding the blade outward and forward, form 3 is perpendicular to your outstretched arm (Obi Wan's combat pose), form 4 is holding it upright in both hands on your right side, etc.
Looking forward to seeing more 😁
I'm so hyped for this series!
Been waiting for an in depth form breakdown
9:22: Six more? What about the unofficial extra ones?
Either way, yeah, would love to see and hear more.
What are they
@@TheTrueAdonis Well, there's dun moch, the art of taunting your opponents, for one.
@@michaelandreipalon359 Ah…I see
Thank you for this video.
Has anyone here played Jade Empire on the original Xbox? A kung-fu RPG from BioWare, right after they made KOTOR. In Jade Empire, one of the fighting styles you can use is called "White Demon," a slow but powerful style that, according to the in-game lore, seems to have a lot of parallels with the Jedi Shi-Cho style. Deliberate, measured, calculated, etc. No doubt BioWare took some inspiration from the Star Wars universe.
Sounds cool
Please cover the rest of the forms.
4:26 Which is why Kit Fisto was a poor choice for fighting Sidious.
Speaking as a martial artist I think it would be neat if you showed the movements or examples of the form you're talking about
Darth Malak was a fierce lightsaber duelist he could fight with one arm most Jedi or Sith usually needed two arms to fight an opponent.
I hear that one of the weaknessss of jarkaii is you can only apply one arm strength. If you're stronger or more skilled than your oppoenent then its a good idea but if not then two arms is highly recommended
How do you say goodbye to Anakin Skywalker in German?
"auf Vadersehn!"
Based 1st Form in Theory:
Hit inferior with death laser.
Based 1st Form in Practice:
Hit inferior with death laser.
Keep it simple boys
Wuhu! one of my favorite parts. Can't wait to see the rest of the series
This is awesome. Thanks!
I am so glad you are making this series, i can't wait for the videos of all the other forms.
Can u do a what if on if Bananakin Skywalker and Captain T-Rex stormed the Jedi Temple
Video: "Way of the Sarlacc"
Thumbnail: "Way of the Ysalamiri"
The Way of the Sarlacc.
Shii-Cho. This is the way.
Please make one on the other forms of lightsaber combat like Trakata and Jar Kai. Especially trakata as it seems to be so overpowered......
So the lightsaber forms are more like Katas combined with Tai Chi? A form of choreography meant for establishing muscle movement memorization, to develop and train a type of mental state, and to strengthen one's spirit.
All the forms would have Katas, with single person sets called Dulons, and paired forms called Velocities and would have Internal aspects, similar to TaiJi and other NeiJia arts, as shown in the Jedi flow excercise.
We would appreciate if you do the other forms aswell great video by the way
Definitely looking forward to the rest of the series!
This kinda reminds me of the series done by Jensaraai1, but more simplified and less lore drowning as he often does (not that it's a bad thing the way he does it).
Kit Fisto Besto Fisto 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
Hey Geetsly’s could you do some more of those battles visualized? I’ve been rewatching the Jabiim, Boz Pity, and Sarrish recently
I wonder which Jedi was a master of Shi Cho?
Looking forward to a new series
Fantastic video can’t wait for the rest!Hope u do videos on all the variations of the forms and maybe their most prominent practitioners.
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Ooo, I'm excited for the rest of this series!
I'm so excited for more of this series
Great job. Can't wait to see the other forms.😅
Hey geetsly i was wondering if you could do an alignment chart for clone commanders?
Ever since I saw the Clone Wars movie, I was fascinated with lightsaber combat. I noticed the differences between the fighting style of Anakin and Dooku during their duel on Tatooine, same with the duel between Obi-Wan and Ventress on Teth. I always wanted to know what different lightsaber combat forms and now I get to find out
Should list the most well known masters of the form. Great video. Thanks
Hey i was wondering if you could make a vid on how Anakin brought balance to the force but his descendants fought other sith in legends? this has always been something that confused me.
More of these. You can do at least 6 more lol.
Kit fisto's form lacked some laser joints
Love the break down
FANTASTIC ! MORE LIKE THIS PLEASE !
This seems like an awesome series to explore!
I personally am a huge fan of Form IV so the Ataru video is gonna be amazing.
Y'know I've got to ask scince we're talking about Lightsaber forms here, what would your style/form be? I myself would use a combination of form 3's stonch defense and form 2's masterful footwoork and redirection while using the force incorporation of form 6 (more so on the mental side such as casting illusions to throw an opponent of guard.) To confuse my opponent and either wait for or create an opening before using the blinding speed of form 4 and the precise attacks of form 2 in order to end a duel quickly.
Ooh, now we're talking a miniseries of Forms, eh.
Please, I’m intrigued. Also Happy Return of The Sixth 😁
My preferred lightsaber forms are the efficient defensive properties of Soresu combined with the acrobatics of Ataru
Love this
I have a weird question: what would happen if you were on a spacewalk , strapped to the ship and the ship enters hyperspace?, or if the door was opened would you still be sucked out?
I think you’d explode first tbh or die from the speed in which your bones jut out to pierce you :(
Here's something I'd be interested in seeing. How do these lightsaber forms compare to actual historical fencing techniques?
If you take a way the stage fencing aspects, a bit better than one might thing.
-Shii-Cho lines up pretty well methods that someone with a longsword or larger swords would used to fight multiple opponents.
- Makashi is similar to Victorian saber and Renaissance rapier.
- Soresu is similar to tai chi dao.
- Ataru is similar to French cane and savate.
- Djem So is similar to German longsword while Shien is similar to Italian longsword.
- Niman is similar to Eskrima.
- Joyo/Vapaad really doesn't have a parallel.
I think more important descriptions you gave to the form was 90° and 45° angle's it use's.
I see I would want to be a species that can live for a very long time but at least isn't the size of Yoda and that is somewhat kind of strong enforce but not like overpowered but due to my extreme lifespan I would focus myself on my swordsmanship and try the master if not master all seven forms of lightsaber combat therefore I would have flaws of course like I would put others before myself and try to protect my fellow Jedi and one day my clone troopers from harm but I just think it'd be awesome to be a master of all 7 forms and I wouldn't even want to be on the high council like I'd rather just be a sentinel like even if the high council actually personally asked me to join them I would deny them.
Realy nice
I’m excited for the form obi wan uses! Never can’t have enough obi wan
Great idea here. All the forms an their offshoots.. THIS is rarely done an could use a serious in depth update
🤔 . . . Could you explain that again, but using various forms of sportly competitions & 🙄 warfare?
And please do this with the other videos please…
What are you even trying to say here
Explaining the different lightsaber forms, primarily their philosophies, in a way that idiots can understand, @@brandonrooney5106…
cant wait until you get to soresu
Thumbnail is wrong, way of the sarlacc dude
The Ysilimari weren't mentioned once here... 😢
Sweet 👍👍
Schii-Cho was favorised by:
Kit Fisto
Nahdar Vebb
Kento Marek
Jaden Korr
Meetra Surik
Lucien Draay
And probably Jaro Tapal and his padawan Cal Kestis even if it is not precised by any material sources.
Me likey. Good.
Form 1 is my fave
I never comment but this is my favorite video ever!
Lightsabers are cool in a way that, when presented with the clunkiest, most unstable, most generally crappy version of one, the Jedi were still all like, "We need to incorporate this glowstick into our religion, somehow."
It says way of the Ysalamiri on the thumbnail, but that is for Form 2 isn't it?
In the og trilogy. It seems everyone uses shii cho
Ah, but let us take a moment to recall the awesome glory of "The Grand Inquisitor"'s fighting style.
(Especially with him coming back in Kenobi)
Oh wow, that quote by Obi-Wan would be an amazing scene in a movie or series!!! Hint hint lol 😆
The only other lightsaber form as underrated as Form VI Niman.
Wow I'm comment of the week 😮
Are these forms legends now? Just wondering as you never hear anything about it in the movies or something
You mention that the form was created when they didn't have to worry about dark side users of the blade, but didn't the dark siders create the protosaber and the jedi took it from them?
So if you were to combined forms 1 and 5 then you would be deadly on the battlefield
Way of the Ysalamiri? Das form 2 dawg
Hm, how very interesting.
So Shii-Cho is based on the philosophy of nondualism.
Photo is incorrect. Form 1 is based off the sarlacc