Oda ENDS Trans Yamato debate, Twitter threatens his LIFE
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00:00 - intro
00:09 - initial context
01:00 - threats and anger
03:52 - pushback
05:44 - compilation
06:05 - moving on
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Goddamit
So a women that looks like a women is a women? Imagine my shock.
God I love women
@@just_a_turtle_chadnever thought I'd see you in a hero hei comment section wtf
Hahaha right on ✊
@@just_a_turtle_chad Amen but the sane, sweetheart ones
@@hunt7533 And tomboys that can crush your skull like a watermelon with her legs
Yamato doesn't identify as a man, she identifies as Oden
Quite literally this is the solution but twitters will only read what they want to read, listen what they want and ban what they don't
i identify as a iphone 15 pro max
Not true, she identifies as ink on a paper
I identify as half dragon
yeah, I put that as a comment as well. It is so weird in my opinion it’s like were you trying to stir up controversy because of course people who need to see people like them in all forms of media will just assume you are claiming the character as trans if you have a character of one gender claim to be another character of the other gender
The insanity of sending death threats to Oda while having his art and characters as their profile pic is beyond me
it is even more funny once you realize Oda probably does not read non-japanese tweets anyway and probably has someone in the department for japanese ones.
HE'S OUR BOIII ODA OUR MAN
(so long as he gives us what we feel entitled to)
It's shock me, for sure.
Crazy because the same happend to mha manga author
@@thunderkatz4219what did he do?
These people are the same ones that claim that Joan of Arc was clearly trans because she put on men’s armor and fought.
Horseshoe theory is real.
Princess Zelda is clearly trans because she disguised as Sheik, passing off as male. Makes about as much sense.
For their logic to be consistent, Gohan and Videl from Dragon ball would have to be trans because Gohan, a male, had long hair at multiple points and Videl, a female, had short hair at one point.
They would also think that Chi-Chi is trans or les because she can fight.
I swear to God these people who always preach about gender equality are more sexist and transphobic than the people they accuse of the same reason.
There were no "women's armor" at the time, lmao. Do they think fantasy female armor exists in medieval history?
@@wataterp7341 yes i think so
@@juice-nn9lbit doesn't exist back then
It doesn’t surprise me that they threaten the life of an author for a character that’s not real. I grow tired of it by the day.
Edit: 4K?! Oi, Twitter, Reddit, Facebook and Instagram . Being honest and not being a jerk works!
This is literally happen like at least 300 time per year.
And it's just only from one fandom.
Edit: it's seem you guy misread me or something, I only count 1 fandom *pause* so far. God who how many if you count all fandom, the more you see, the more Ultron make sense.
@@mentosvagabond Oh I have unfortunately seen this happen in other fandoms like RWBY and even video games too. Although it’s people who threaten others because they don’t like the “ trans character “ or debunk the theory.
@@mentosvagabond "Only from one fandom" Lmao, stop being naïve.
Not only for a character that is not real, but a character HE created and has the right to do anything with HIS character.
People nowadays are insanely disrespectful and think they can canonize absolutely anything over a character that isn't theirs and feel entitled/threatened if that "canon" was denied by the ACTUAL CREATOR.
@@fanboy1148 ya that's just annoying,it's not even this bs debate
People act like they are above the writers so many times
You know a better way to confirm Yamato's gender? Just have Sanji attack her. If he can't, she's a woman. If he can, she's a man.
Galaxy Brain thinking. Seriously, this is great.
As a Sanji main of One Piece Pirate Warriors 3 & 4...I truly felt this
The thing is this shouldn't even be needed...when...you know...the author already came out and confirmed it...
My headcanon is that sanji just get's a stroke or smth. in case the target is like a futa, a trap or a woman who hadn't an dick-remove-operation yet or smth. Imagine Oda actually makin smth. like that and Sanji would face an inmer conflict lmao
Sanji already knows it, in the public bath for men, Yamato joins in, and Sanji love it.
Whenever I feel like shit, I look at twitter and instantly feel better about myself
It does have some good porn.
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The saddest thing about it is that in japan Yamato is refered by Kaido as a type of tomboy but they translated it as a man
Oh, they didn’t mistranslate it, they chose not to use the right words and original intent because it fits what they want better.
Twitter users try not to threaten someone for having a different opinion (IMPOSSIBLE CHALLENGE)
It’s not even an opinion lol they’re threatening someone over a fact
I love you turtle man
"your opinion doesn't matter" -twitter
Just a turtle and LeBeautiful are youtube legends.
Next challenge is try not to dox someone.
The whole tomboy concept has been completely lost to these idiots. What yamato is doing was no different than a child trying to emulate their favorite superhero right down to their name, one-liners, and poses. Yamato didn't say she wanted to be referred to as "he/him" , she wanted people to call her Oden and treat her as such. She is so obsessed with the guy that she practically wants to BE him in every sense. How is this so hard to grasp? As with kaido calling her his "son". Did they forget about the abusive parenting too. Kaido is literally the stereotypical manly man "Survival of the fittest" type of guy. He wanted his successor to be a man like him, but ended up getting a daughter instead. But that didn't stop him from treating her as if she was his "Son". Get it? Kaido wanted a Son not a daughter. So of course he would demand everyone, including yamato, to treat her as such. People can be so stupid these days.
you may have made a good point, or a bad point, i'll never know, cuz i aint reading allat
@@usernamelegend345 then why bother commenting?
I agree with you. Also if these twittards knew anything about Japanese history they would have realised that the only reason Kaido calls Yamato his son is because only man could became the Shogun but Kaido didn't have a son so he raised Yamato as a boy in order to put her in the position of Shogun one day.
Literacy nuance is gone in this day and age as people cannot grasp anything that is simple
Yes, these people are so deluded that they would call a boy who likes a princess o a girl that likes superman trans. Absolute insanity
people really like to treat their headcanon like it’s indisputable canon…
well... isn't that essentially the whole trans concept in a nutshell ?
That meme is amazing. "I DONT WANT PEACE! I WANT PROBLEMS! ALWAYS!" LMAO!!
LITERALLY Twitter in a nutshell 😂🤣😂
People who say Yamato is trans either failed reading comprehension in school or are incredibly dishonest
Well those are the same people who called Bridget a trans just because for some reason it seems cool and fair to them 🤷🏼♀️ They’ll literally call a trans anyone who doesn’t fit in stereotypical “women” (or man for male characters) behavior and appearance
There's usually a LOT of overlap between the two.
I don't read One Piece but if I were to guess...
>character is called "son" by her macho dad because he's too much of a giga Chad to have a daughter
>daughter is afraid of disappointing her macho dad so she also calls herself "his son"
>twitter thinks she's trans rather than insecure
Did I get it?
@@BrattyNii the reason she calls herself man is because of admiration just like how kids calls themselves I'm superman she never calls herself trans or anything this word doesn't even exist in that world but u know how Twitter people are
@@BrattyNii she calls herself man only because she wants to be like oden ( a man ) , there isn't much to it , some people don't get it
the fact people are still arguing about this is insane. Yamato always claimed to be oden, she respect this man so much she want to basically be him. she never said she was male. most of the time she says she is oden while kaido calls her his son. basically yamato is lowkey a crazy fan girl she was even trying to convince momonosuke that she was his father.
For real. Those weirdos think that Kaido was "respecting Yamato's gender" while in actuality he was mocking his daughter by calling her his son.
Yamato on the other hand decided to stand up to his mockery and embraced Ode's legacy even more. This is all there is to it
Even I who doesn't read One Piece had that thought, all the screenshot I see of this mention Son of Kaido, so I just assumed is a title to be referred regardless of gender, same as how in some cultures the monarch is King regardless if it is a woman.
@@Lu_R fr tho people claiming that “Even Kaido respects Yamato’s pronouns” utterly fail to realize who is Kaido as a character
I randomly join my sister while she watches this, and that part confused the hell out of me.
Like she's not Oden, but he is Oden. It was weird.
Obviously the twitter freaks are insane
It’s not that she identifies as a “guy”, she identifies as “Kozuki Oden”, someone who she clearly isn’t. She developed such a deep admiration for oden that she started impersonating him. She talks like him and dresses like him. She even refers Momonosuke as her son.
that is true
The issue I have with Yamato's Gender identity sub-plot is that the reason she identifies as male is because her father is sexist and wouldn't acknowledge her otherwise. She's a victim of abuse and is identifying as male to appease her abuser. Another thing is more of a translation thing, while Japanese doesn't have third person gender pronouns, they do have feminine and masculine first person pronouns. Tomboys in manga will often use the masculine pronoun and with localizers shoving their own agendas into translations, I wonder if she even truly identifies as male or if she is simply a tomboy.
People are so into this trans social movement they start seeing trans people everywhere. To the point they forget sometimes in stories not everyone slightly outside of a gender norm is trans.
It’s their motto
To solve something then they must see it in everything which is ironic because that’s the root of the problem
It was self insert.
They have nothing else to live for.
Exactly And that's a major problem
We were introduced to a trans character Kiku few chapters before seeing Yamato. Seems like Oda is into the trans movement as well
"But she uses male pronouns"
That is a trait shared by many tomboy characters too, who are not trans. Although, given how they're trying to claim tomboy characters as well, I don't think they'd understand that
"But she went to the male bath"
Yes, because that's what Oden would do, not because she's a man
My biggest gripe with the whole thing is that by accepting her as a trans man through her infatuation with Oden, to me that'd be like legitimizing her hijacking of someone else's identity, which sounds like a pretty fucked up thing to do
She can admire Oden as much as she wants, but she is NOT him, which means she's not a man through him either
Also boku isn't even a set male pronouns. Ore=male, Watashi=female, Boku=started out as male but nowadays both women and man use it.
@@az639
I'm more familiar with its use mainly by young boys, who eventually shift to "ore"
Guess things have changed a bit
@@stickfigure8416
You are right about that. That part still didn't change it's just that more and more women/girls get braver and show that they are tomboys so nowdays there are more women/girls who use boku insted of watashi.
thats the issue, the erasure of the tomboy girl.
@@az639 that's purely wrong these pronouns are not bound by gender Japanese pronouns differ by the degree of formality/respect 俺(ore) - lowest formality: used with close friends, 僕(boku) - medium formality: used in usual conversation with just about anyone except the people you use 私(watashi) with, 私(watashi) - high formality: used with seniors, or your boss, parents, people older than you, etc...
Let me clarify that use of the wrong pronouns in certain situations would lead to alot of misunderstandings such as: Using 私 with your close friends would be weird and you would seem distant in relation to each other, and on the flip side using 俺 with your boss would sound very rude and people would think you're either weird or just starting a fight with your boss.
Didn't she even mention she was born a girl, but Kaido wanted a son, so she identified as a boy?
That would still make her a girl
she is indeed a girl 100% she said she wanted to be called a he but that doesn't change that she still is a woman. I also checked the manga and anime and i can confirm she is a woman. She just admires oden alot and wanna be like him.
Truth be told, Yamato isn't trans!! Because the character didn't choose to be MAN/MALE, Yamato wants to be ODEN, the character wants to be another person, different from Kiku, who is a man who identifies as a woman. Also, when I say "Didn't choose" because Kaidou is a controlling toxic father, he wants to decide everything in his child's life, even the gender (also Oda stated the following sometime ago in a SBS he got the inspiration of Yamato from Rose of Versailles character who as Yamato was raised as a man but was a woman, but still was attracted to the opposite gender)
You did get it🎉
The Kaido wanting a son thing has been made up by the fandom and yeah, Yamato wanted to be like Oden, but that's the whole point of his arc. His big scene is him introducing himself as just Yamato, because he want from wanting to be Oden to wanting to be like him, in the sense of adventuring outside of Wano. Yet even after he abandons his dream of being Oden, he still calls himself a he, a son and still bathes in the men's side of the onsen.
@@ikuas3881 She's still a woman, so an L for you and your community, since Oda puts her as what she really is, a woman
@@xiiir838 Bro how you a transphobic One Piece fan that's wild
@@ikuas3881 first of all, I'm not your "bro", and I'm not a bro, I'm a trans girl myself.
Secondly, I would gladly let people say Yamato is a guy if there was evidence that it is that way, which isn't. Throughout the whole arc Oda tells us how and why Yamato develops that personality. Not because she doesn't identify herself with her body, not because of gender dysphoria: because she's delusional and wants to play the role of a great man.
And thirdly, Oda put her in the same picture as all the other one piece girls.
Can you guys please stop being such w£!rdos? It makes me feel uncomfortable being part of the LGVTQ community knowing you're all like cultists obsessed with useless things
Imagine telling people to kill themselves because a character isn’t trans. 💀
It's a sad and crazy world we live in
It’s so tolerant and inclusive
I saw some death threats in my reply on Twitter before... I just explain my view on some LGBT stuffs and all I see is death threats. Why would they be so aggressive when all I did is express my opinion. 💀
Apparently, being respectful isn't enough. Most of them want me to understand them but why won't they try to understand me?
well, that would improve the general IQ of the population a bit.
@@HGKEntertainment Yeah those are the bad side of that community. Even though the majority is not like that, there has been a increase of that shit. It’s really depressing.
Imagine having SO little in your life that you need to cling so hard to a fictional character that you feel comfortable threatening the creator of said character.
Yea, like, if Oda isn't here anymore, who would continue the series? Them? Nah...... Just look at the current state of DC and Marvel, or Velma
@@fuisharu oh god.. They need to stay away from Japan in general. I don't want them directing one piece 😢
@@fuisharu afaik they wouldnt be able to continue one piece even if they wanted too anyway. something about respecting the author work or something like that idk.
@@Foat_Gucker that's obvious, the problem is, these peps don't even have a slight respect to Oda as the author.
Did they even really read One piece 🤦♂️ Yamato is female from beginning but she really obsessed with Oden so much that she like to call herself Kozuki oden
yamato is one of the cutest women in op lol
I always found the debate around Yamato's gender to be really stupid. She never corrects people about her pronouns or that she's a man, just that she's Kozuki Oden. She sees herself as some legendary guy she learned about, specifically him. If it was Oden's wife who tried open Wano and died, then she'd probably do the same. Her whole character arc is going to end up being along the lines of "I'm not Kozuki Oden, and I need to find out who Yamato really is!"
You know, stop trying to be someone else, and be yourself kinda deal.
Literally, if someone else had injured kaido and had such an impactful death she'd probably become them too
Right, she wants to be Oden, and since Oden was a man she became one too. Her gender identity was linked to Oden’s gender identity. Take Oden out of the equation and Yamato would’ve been fine identifying as a woman.
It is literally this. This is Yamato's character arc, but people inject their own ideology into the character and get angry when they're told what's going on.
The head canon is too strong for some people.
@@nilok7 yep and then want to argue with the manga writer over it when he already confirmed she is female back in 2021 literally 2 years later they slow to conversation or they don't actually read the manga or watch the show and are just looking for reasons to hate
Doesn’t matter what she saids she’s a girl unless you get what’s his face to change it in the world if ONE PIECE but other that your suck with the one your born with
“Wait so my headcanon isn’t right? Time to threaten authors life.”
The thing is in order to think Yamato is trans, you have to also think that Oda is just so disrespectful to trans people that he would write a trans character just to constantly dead name and misgender her in and out of the manga.
Disrespectful? You mean based
based@@WarmPotato
@@WarmPotatobro is 13 years old
@@WarmPotato sad troll.
Trans people can choose to keep their same name and even said "I am yamato, son of Kaidou"
Yamato as a side note isn't a feminine name, Yamato Takeru I think was the person Oden is inspired off of, definitely Yamato, unsure on the other name without looking.
She isn't trans, nor does she want to be a man. She idolizes one, very specific man, and wants to be like him.
Why is it so hard for people (on the far left) to understand.
Twitter freaks: "Validate our existence and give us representation in our works or we'll end your life!"
Oda: "I don't even know who you are."
They have other trans and queer characters though, idk why they need every single character to be like that
@@ero-senninsama1734 because their brains are made of gay gay homosexual gayyyyyy and it's leaking
Imagine having your whole personality based on whether or not a character is Trans. Imagine WATCHING a 1000+ episodes because there's a Trans person in the show. Imagine wanting someone dead over a character they wrote.
I swear these people aren't real. How can you function as an adult thinking like this? You have to think everyone and everything is out to get you.
They are not functional adults. They are kids or more toddlers.
The funny thing is there is a real trans character in the exact same arc
"...you have to think everyone and everything is out to get you..."
They do. That's a major part of the issue at hand. They are, in their own minds, in a war - their side 'perfection and saying otherwise is enemy action' and 'the others' (literally everyone who's not them) 'evil demons out to kill us all engaging in trans-genocide and taking our rights away daily'
They are NOT very functional individuals at all.
@@BlackCroft666 They're crybabies in adult bodies to be exact
they are mentally ill and to treat them its damnn costly
yamato never identified as a man, she always stated she identified as kozuki oden. the whole kaidos son thing is a mistranslation, yamoto is kaidos heir, its just that the heir to someone is usually male. yamoto is not trans, nor is she identifying as male. this is confirmed by the guy who created the character, there is no debate or transphobia or sexism or anything. its just simple facts.
Yamato can call herself whatever she wants.
She's a woman.
Let's be realistic, there's no "end" to this debate. The most jaw dropping and lore heavy chapter was dropped this week, with appearances from the most unexpected characters, but THIS is what twitter will waste their time arguing about
Me too, mate. The spoiler forum was a mess. They were either bemoaning about Yamato or going into best girl debate while I'm like "the chapter, guys"
They prob doesn't even watch one piece, they be like "oh a women calling herself a man? Letsgooo" to "she's a woman? KYS ODA!!!"
It’ll quiet down eventually but for now it’s loud and people will hear about it
Personaly i want to doubt that human pancake is STILL ALIVE!!!
A hammer and a nail on the head, no way he survives this!
Every time people clarify a supernatural phenomenon, a character's motives, or a character's identity it almost always ends up blowing up because someone disagrees, even if the answer comes from the author or writer. People will choose to believe what they believe, even if to others it may sound crazy or they are incorrect. To these people it is not a debate, it is a shouting contest.
I have a trans friend that has actually moved away from anything to do with the trans community specifically because of stuff like this. Quoted straight from her, "Why should it matter what anyone else is? They always want to complain that people get a say about what goes on in their pants, but then throw a fit about what's in someone else's pants."
your friend is a wise person
Smart friend you have there.
@@Steven9567 You better stay quiet or you'll be hunted transphobe 🔪
@@Steven9567 i know you're just trolling and i'm literally feeding your ego right now
but can we just not do this? please
@@Steven9567 "I don't want peace! I want problem olwesss!"
The key difference that settles this whole debate is that Yamato refers to themself specifically as “Oden”, and not as a “male”.
By this I mean that Yamato’s whole debate is less about her identity as a “trans” but more as an “impersonator”. For example, someone who is extremely passionate about cosplay and the characters they dress as aren’t those characters, but want to be as close to those characters as possible out of admiration, regardless of their gender.
Yamato wants to be a “guy” because “Oden was a guy”, not because she wants to be a guy, but because she wants to be “Oden”.
Despite being in the female cast spread, in the series she joins the guys in their bath. Yamato isn’t a “guy” or a “girl”, Yamato is “Oden”.
Yeah I had a feeling that Yamato was pretending to be Oden thus being One Piece's answer to a chuunibyou.
I think you understood it better than anyone else, in my personal case, until I see Yamato accept the identity of "Yamato, daughter of Kaido" instead of trying to become "Kozuki Oden" I will keep on referring to him as a male because that part of the character's arc is yet to be finished.
didnt yamato start calling himself, well, yamato having abandoned the name of oden but still uses masculine pronouns and goes to the men's washing room? that was a pretty noticeable bit at the end of the wano arc with them deciding to no longer use the name of oden but still using male pronouns
@@cloud8521 edit: lmaoo they blocked me after giving the cringiest saddest sounding rage wail i've read all week
then as counter examples we have yamato going into the boy's washroom after saying they cant go into the women's, continuing to use male pronouns after abandoning the oden name and being introduced as kaido's son
so 3 examples vs 3 since him showing up on a third party writer's card one single instance of him being called daughter and being shown in a spread that involves girls are just as circumstancial
Calling Oda transphobic is the most ridiculous statement ever as Oda is one of the most inclusive creators ever as he even created a whole kingdom just for Trans called kamabakka kingdom where Sanji spent most his time and the person who trained him Ivankov is in drag and design of a drag queen. How anyone has the cheek to even question his openness and inclusivity in his creation has own agenda and wants to find faults and make accusations as they not happy with master piece Oda is creating.
Right? Oda basically give us characters that falls under that category like Bon-chan & Iva-chan but these people still calls him that simply because he didn't comply to their demand of confirming their headcanon of Yamato being trans. These people are the one who made their community looks bad.
how the hell did you mess up so bad lol? Katakuri kingdom? bro katakuri is one of the most important figure of the whole serie lol. You meant Kamabakka Kingdom
@@frap9997 I think your missing the point mr one piece Wikipedia. It’s fine if you remember all 10,000.00 things named by Oda in the series so far but unfortunately I can’t remember the exact names of each island in One Piece and some names sound fairly similar but I recognise the meaning behind them which was how inclusive Oda is in his story telling and is giving all types of people respect in his story.
@@mrstorytale bro katakuri kingdom? Katakuri is one of the most important figure. No true one piece fan would have make that mistake.
i mean not guessing or caring about oda's stance on lgtbq+ but "okama comedy" was/is quite popular in japan and has nothing to do with inclusivity lmao
you take manly looking men with beards and muscles (and in OP unattractive) acting cliché gay and effiminate dressed as a woman or in a fetish way being flirty while having straight men run for their lives..that's the humour, if your sexuality or gender identity is used for comedy, idk not the highest standard of representation?
the comedy is on the same level as the 'i am a lady' skits of little britain, and you wouldn't use those to make it seem like they are supportive (despite being funny af) so...really not a good point to make if you want to show oda caring, kiku would be a way better fit (and actually trans) lol
Calling her trans was so stupid she never identified as a different gender she identified as an entirely different person it's not the same 😂
Exactly
Its twitter, what did you expect? a spec of intelligence?
@@northernalpine4350 lol
Even If you with surgery to BE korean IT will never Happen 😅
@@daydreamerxan623 great point
I remember they told us that the creator of Guilty Gear confirms that Bridget is trans and that we must shut up and get over it. But when Oda simply says Yamato is 100% female, they say he must be killed. Gotta love the ludicrous.
I mean there's some japanese that are savage the tohou creator just said that *no characters are lesbinas in his work*. Cancel culture don't really work in japan.
@@MrRobot-0 Asia in general actually
While in Southeast Asia, especially Indonesia, the cancel culture gets cancelled instead
@@MrRobot-0 I know, and the seething within the Touhou "fanbase" as a result has been absolutely amazing. Of course, it didn't stop 90% of them from immediately headcanoning them as bisexual and we all know how well that would have went if the opposite had been true (see: Bronya/Caelus/Seele or really any non-lesbian Honkai pairing controversy).
Every single one of those tweets you couldn't see the engagement. I guarantee you those tweets had maybe 1 or 2 likes and that's it. Wow, 3 people share an opinion when Twitter holds millions.
@@MrRobot-0 of course, all the girls are Rinouseke's,
Jk
I remember in like a flashback Yamato was referred to as “ogre princess”
Bruh I saw someone asking about yamato's gender in a sincere way and all the responses were basically head-canons and this is what I hate about any community/fandom, the people should stick with what the creator says and if you have a problem, you don't have the right to hurt others for what you want or even threaten them
Bro who tf was calling Yamato trans
She’s very VERY clearly a girl lmaooo
On Twitter, Mangahelper etc. These people was desperately grasping straws.
That community is desperate to claim anyone as their own to validate their own existences. Especially characters that are as fictional as there being more than two genders.
Twitter users and trannies hate real women
they were trying to say she was trans because she claims to be oden who is a male.
Mentally ill people were.
Anyone who thinks Yamato was a trans man completely ignored her character design. Oda has made his trans characters clear. They are either cartoonish like Ivankov and the island Sanji was on, or are passing to their identity like Kiku who I have seen no one take issue with. Yamato is literally dressed as a shine maiden, and has a Hannya Mask which represents a jealous female demon, which can be seen as a nod to her obsession with Oden and desire to follow Ace into the sea. She does not embody any of Oda's design philosophy when it comes to trans characters, and clearly represents as her biological female self as opposed to other Trans characters.
Her obsession with Oden is just that. An obsession. One so strong she tries to emulate everything about Oden. If she just found out Oden was actually a female mink all along, she would suddenly say she was a female mink. This is not trans.
Nailed it 👏🏻
this right there
to think any less will show they are detached from reality
Also, the Kaido "respecting Yamato's choice" thing is misunderstood.
There's a flashback to Kaido trying to use this as a punishment to teach Yamato a lesson. In not exact words, Kaido basically said, "You wanna be Oden? Fine. Then I'll treat you like Oden. Now stay in that cave and starve until you cut it out."
People took the “I want to be a man like oden” and only focused on the man part. It’s like they can’t fathom the idea that you want to be like someone not physically but what they represented. Oden was more than just a man, he was Oden.
Sending death threats because of a fictional character's gender, before Oda revealing her gender is crazy man. They're really suck at guessing huh.
People forgot tomboys exist. It’s weird
The people who wanted to go on and on about Yamato being trans don't really understand the character situation. She does NOT identify as a man because she has gender dysphoria. She identifies as the person she deeply admired and respected so much as a child that she wanted to identify as him to show her way to honor him. She even changed her name to his own in a way to be closer to her idol.
The concept of it is completely lost on these people because they're so desperate to have something to latch onto in popular media that they've become completely unhinged and others just join in thinking they score some brownie points for being good allies. That's why you get situations like Yamato, Bridget and Mahiro.
They don't understand that anime characters have always played loose with identity and relationships because real people's identities doesn't cross that creators mind. They just want to make something fun and tell their story their way. They make characters that identify as whatever the story demands of them, not because they want to cater to specific people.
I've learned a long time ago that these people doing all the complaining don't really care about story or personality. They only care about identity. They care about latching their own personality on something so they can feel important and in their mind believing that if a character is like them then they are inspiring people to be like them so their own existence is worth something.
They look for acknowledgement from others through force rather than actually working to make it. They're just broken people looking for validation and are used to getting it their way looking at how vile and desperate they act when it doesn't.
Nailed it! this is all about the most thin of Identity set ups. it's really easy to market to as well. just say "this character is X" and they come arunnin' for the corpos, social media comments in hand bashing their heads on walls cheering for it. and for what? this character who claims to have this one feature possibly like them, not understanding that peopel and stories are deeper then that. just because i have a certain skin, sexuality or otherwise, doesn't mean im "represented" by a character who does. they aren't even close to me, and plenty of these pandering cutouts are nothing without them.
they need it to give their lives what they see as meaning instead of actually connecting with the story itself. I've got more in common with 40k orks then the pandering crap people hand my race as an example.
anyway, Yamato sounds awesome to me. trying to BE the idol you look up to is an interesting piece of character.
The gender cultists operate on this simple premise:
"All in the Cult, nothing outside the Cult, nothing against the Cult."
Hence why they want to infest and corrupt everything, from companies and politics to books and entertainment. All must be in the Cult, nothing outside of it.
And why they lash out and seek to destroy by any means necesary anyone who speaks against the cult's doctrine: nothing against the cult.
The quicker people realize that these are malevolent cultists that deserve nothing but scorn and flames, the better.
Yamato took the name Oden but didn't go around asking to be called he/him. That came from the abusive father. Anyone that calls Yamato trans is celebrating child abuse
And what's wild too is how many of them try to "claim" every GNC character as "theirs" and get extremely angry when the authors don't validate their stupid headcanons, but they'll happily ignore confirmed canon trans characters or even deny that some of them ARE trans.
@@tomraineofmagigor3499 , transgender activists have always supported child abuse hence why they’re so insistent on labeling Yamato as transgender even it’s shown abundantly clear that the only transgender character in Wano is Kiku.
God bless Oda
Oda did the right thing.
He’s created a trans character before in the same arc. this isn’t based
Oda just effed up when describing her. no one’s perfect and couldn’t predict how ppl would take this
@@Add183 the only reason kaido called her his son was because she is a big fan of oden and even pretended to be him right?
@@phivras512
No, he wanted a strong pawn ergo a boy. He is negletful parent who wants to use his child for his mad designs.
like really.. people will threaten the creator of one piece if it means that yamato becomes trans or they would go as far as to dox him if they don't get what they fucking want of him.. like literally...
one piece is his story to do not yours to ruin.
What a sad world we live in when people start sending death threats in defense of a fictional character who wants to identify as another person. If they think that is ok and defendable then I guess I’ll identify as their dad and then leave AGAIN
Are you a grown ass man crying about trans people and what 12 year olds on twitter are saying?
Weak
Is as absurd as people thinking Lucina is trans because she pretended to be Marth in Awakening.
Or people thinking Naoto is trans because she acts like a man to avoid misogyny in P4
@@nuclearsynapse5319 Or people thinking Link is trans because he dressed up as a Gerudo to get into Gerudo Town.
They apparently thought Ash's Pikachu was trans just because he disguised as a female Pikachu. In one episode.
Clearly, they don't understand the concept of disguises.
@@PaulYourGuide I mean have you seen the Gerudo? I'd dress like a woman too if it got me closer to those bricc women.
@@MrAuthor3DS They thought fucking PIKACHU WAS TRANS??? PIKACHU??? Oh hellll nahhhhh- They gon' be claiming their dogs are trans next holy shit.
Twitter: woman can be stronger than men
"Strong women character exist"
Twitter: yep she is trans
They can’t even define a woman, so I don’t put much stock in their definition of ‘strong’ either, let alone ‘strong woman’.
I’d laugh if it wasn’t so pervasive and ludicrous.
They're one of those people that sees musclar women and goes "That's trans woman"
@@I_Dont_Believe_In_Salad yeah but why it's always the attractive one (yamato or tomo chan) who has femine appereance, not like abby from last of us?
Do you expect anything more than complete hypocrisy from them? They say not to assume gender but when in public they do just that.
I think it's pretty obvious by the manga that the "issue" is that Kaido wanted a son, but got a girl instead, so he treated her like a boy all her life. But Yamato does not identify herself as a man at any point.
This is getting beating ridiculous 😭. Yamato identifies as Oden, not a man 🙄. She has never once stated she wants to be a man, I've only ever seen her refer to herself and correct others by saying she is Kozuki Oden🤔?
Yes, Yamato's Vivre Card (Character Bio) lists the character's gender as Female.
Therefore, she is a woman.
Thank you, Oda.
Imagine reading a book, then telling the author they got the gender of their character wrong because they are transfobic
Oda: "Yamato's sex is female, cope 'n' cry about it, Twitter."
artists anyone
Isn't this what Death of the Author is used for?
awnser is that she is biologically female but identifies as male. That's it. Debate over.
Transfobic forever
These people call others transphobic for calling Yamato, a woman, a woman while ignoring the real trans characters in the show like- It can't get any more hypocritical than this. I don't get why they're so obsessed with Yamato being trans when they literally have canon trans characters such as Kiku. Why can't they ever celebrate that instead of sending out death threats over this? Direct all this enthusiasm towards that! You have representation but you choose to ignore it and whine about it
They are Twitter user afterall.
It's funny that all the supposed "transphobes" are perfectly accepting of characters like Ivankov and Kiku.
Yamato is a woman. Yamato was always obviously a woman. People think Yamato is a girl because Yamato is obviously a girl. Using male pronouns does not make a female character trans. This is an old anime trope.
It's truly mind boggling that they can't grasp the simple fact that Yamato "identifying" as a man is supposed to be a joke. There are already Trans characters in OP, Kiku and Ivankov to name just a few. It was supposed to subvert the expectation. We kept hearing about Kaido's son, turns out Kaido's son is a girl, then she proclaims herself a man, then she explains "Because Oden was a man, and I decided to become Oden, therefore I'm going to be a man too." Then it all came together and we were SUPPOSED to go "oh, wait a minute, she's not trans, she's just an idiot."
That's more like wearing the skin of Oden than being Transoden
(whispering) pssstt they're angry because thats the same reason they make and you just called them idiots
Exactly, it was supposed to be an "oh wait a minute" moment. She doesn't actually identify as a man, she identifies as Oden. Which just makes her stupidly delusional.
To be honest I find it crazy you can identify as men or woman and it's not crazy but yamato identifying as oden is crazy and delusional,that really says something.
This reminds me of a post that says that Samus is trans because the original game calls her a "he" when literally it's made as a subversion
Yamato: *physically and mentally abused by her father*
Twitter freaks: "KAIDO IS BEST DAD HE LET HIS BIOFEM CHILD IDENTIFY AS MAN"
This has become a common trend with these people, take a situation that is absolutely f*cked up, mental/physical abuse, then have the broken victims and their tormentors both be celebrated as icons. 💀
Remember Bridget and the Superstitious Village that oofed same sex twins? Same story.
I mean that's how Abuse works, it change person's mentally
Like how some people becoming Gays because they have abusive fathers same goes for lesbians
Trans is just a byproduct of "you (doing something) like girl/boy" and take that criticism seriously to the point you think you're opposite gender
Also kaido wanted a son not a daughter
@@idkwelp1082 the question is, why?
Actually sad, but makes sense now how One Piece has become so massive, somehow it appeals to the vast majority of weird psychotic idiots in the world 🤦🏻♂
It's really sad how these pointless gender wars from the west have been working so damn hard to literally erase femboys and tomboy girls from general media.
I see Yamato as basically the old stereotypical tomboy, the girl who wants to play with the other guys, and also isn't afraid of getting her hands dirty either.
Tomboys are cool
Or in other words, working to erase women from media in general
No, just tomboys. They promote femboys like it's their religion. Tomboys on the other hand they just don't like ig
@@stephano1019 Tf are you on about
What do you mean “erase” Tomboys and femboys, I have not heard a single thing about this
I hate when people assume things about characters they didnt create and fight against what the actual creator of the character says.
Kinda sounds like the fans and J.K. Rowling to be honest.
Exactly. How you gon tell somebody how their character works based on how you think it is, when the creator knows this better than you.
Exactly. How you gon tell somebody how their character works based on how you think it is, when the creator knows this better than you.
Wow you just summarized every single Bridget debate in existence
@@roxas5071 yeah like bro the creator CONFIRMED that she's a girl
People who use Kaido's speech as argument into their view in Yamato's sexuality just don't understand old culture and costumes. Basically, the elder son is the heir of everything the father has but, since he has only Yamato, a daughter, usually her husband would inherit and command what Kaido may left. Now, for her to work so hard to prove herself strong and smart enough to be understood and called as "son", it's an honor. This is just a way people in the past used to show their respect for their daughters efforts, saying implicitly that: "even though i don't have a son, my daughter is stronger and smarter than any son i could have and she's worthy to inherit everything i have".
This is literally like, they are trashing a woman's story of resilience and persistence just for their agenda, but... woman's defense isn't also their agenda? 🤔
But you don't understand, Japan has to alter all of its history and culture to meet the standards of Western ideologues. But remember, they're not colonizers, because they're progressive and on the right side of history.
So basically is pro-women in a lot of ways. Like her father is clearly a piece of shit and she has to prove herself over and over again to him. These people in these communities or just anyone in general who is acting this way about a character is insane to me. Get a life people. Do any of them actually pay attention to the characters, themes, and chapters when they read?? It’s like they get an idea in their head that’s completely misinterpreting what the author is saying and get pissed that the author is like no sorry your mistaken. Cause apparently their thoughts and beliefs are more important than what is actually on the page. Talk about narcissism to the max.
Your right think the beast pirates called her order princess
@@nicholasanderson7316 you think any of that westerner have a brain when the "pronounce" is a topic and all that letters community in the opposing side? no hell no
Do you notice how these people put heart emojis in their awful threats I MEAN tweets ? It’s like they think it’s quirky to act stupid and homicidal
Yamato is a girl. She wants to be like Oden. She call herself "Oden". She is not Trans, she is Oden. End of the story.
Erm I actually don't care! Anyway *headcanons Yamato as a transman*
@@wetsock6539 ahahah yeah they say like that, even threatning oda's life ... they should not be allow any right
@@Memillionss Am I threatening Oda's life? No. Sooo anyway I'm going to headcanon what I want
@wetsock6539 I don't wanna argue
You can headcanon what you want, as long as everyone respect eachother and the author's will.
Btw, I never said you threatened oda's life. I thought you were jokingly imitating those who do, saying they don't care and lives in their delusional opinions
Ok, correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the whole thing with Yamato that she wanted to be Oden (who was a man) and thus did her damnedest to present herself as such. It's not like she going through dysphoria just next-level fangirling. It's like if a kid really looked up to Optimus Prime to the point where they started saying they were him and that because he was cybertronian, they are now also cybertronian cuz they "are" Optimus Prime. Once you look at it like that this whole trans/gender debate becomes even more stupid.
No, by their logic there is no other option for people to process things anymore
Yea thats exactly what shes doing
She even calls the son of the person shes impersonating her own kid
Yep. She's somewhere between "a tomboy enjoying activities that are mostly enjoyed by men" and "a fan girl trying to live like her favorite idol".
At NO point was she ever a genetic man, she just likes to go around in costume claiming to be Oden.
People who look at the world through rainbow colored glasses can't see anything else. Like if a girl loves cars, instead of makeup, then they assume they are a "lesbian/transgender in denial."
Ironically, they're creating more gender stereotypes, and limiting things for both hetero and LGBTQ people by doing this.
and normally after they have closure regarding the impact and experiences they've had and/or mature a bit, they tend to get over that phase and embrace their own identity.
The "Oh so loving and accepting" community that threatens to end someone's life over "wrong think".
It was just a fiery but mostly peaceful complaint
They're only loving and accepting to people who act,think and become like them.
Literally tried guilting straight people for being straight🤦♂️
Look out, big brother is watching...
Ironic
I never believed she was trans, I always said that Yamato was commiting identity theft, she doesnt say that she herself is a guy, she says that she is a SPECIFIC guy.
"Oden was a man so I became a man" and "I'm Kaido's son" last time I checked Oden wasnt related to Kaido also even when shes not referred to as oden but as yamato they still always refer to him as a man
@@insertcringeynamehere5729 And yet Oda still drew her with all the other women in the cast.
Trans shit isn't big over there so I think your digging to deep into this by applying western logic into Japanese media.
If he wanted her to be trans she wouldn't be in the art with all the women and probs would've heavily implied it like kiku.
If anything you guys should be crying that kiku wasn't here
@@2crisp63 i dont see how trans not being big in japan matters one piece literally has a whole island of trans ppl and him being included in a cover with women means a lot less than him literally stating "I became a man" and ur saying it shouldve been implied like kiku even tho it was 10x more implied than kiku was
@@insertcringeynamehere5729 Shes a man but with the rest of the women in the art, lol shes more implied although kiku actually physically looks like a woman . The phrase to me is clearly metaphorical but hey, whatever makes you sleep at night.
@@2crisp63 ur saying whatever helps me sleep at night but just to say yamato isnt a man ur taking the word of 1 cover art over the entirety of wano and yamatos character ur acc dumb he said multiple times he was a man and no it wasnt metaphorical its a literal quote that he said "oden was a man so i became a man" its crazy ur taking the word of a cover art over the story when the cover art didnt include kiku either and shes stated a trans woman so i dont see why the cover art matters if we r talking ab trans characters
Twitter goblins: "We trans people just wanna live our lives and spread tolerance and acceptance!"
also Twitter goblins:
goblins is 100% the correct word
I understand wanting representation but if you're stereotyped for being mentally ill would you want the poster child for mental illness in the show to be your representation?
@@samuraitadpole5459 beggar can't choose
no one literally give a shit about representation until LGBTQ and Twitter happens, like 99% people who watch anime doesnt matter what is their race will see their favourite character as their representation.
@@xavreim6957 i swear life is far more peaceful both in real life and especially internet before the whole LGBT and Twitter agenda stuff comes up.
@@xavreim6957 I disagree for personal reasons but you're right for the most part
You’d think, oda being the guy who CREATED the character yamato would be the final say on this matter. Yet they want him to change his decision, basically you either kill your creativity and make something that pleases us or you’re not worth existing. Like this perspective that these people have is just shocking
They really just pulled the same shit that the MHA Fans did to Horikoshi when they heard there will be no gay relationships happening between minors 💀
It’s probably the old Chinese trope where the family forces their child to pretend to be a boy 😂
Reminds me of Robin Newman from Ace Attorney :Dual Destinies, the female character was raised as a boy.
At some point, she broke her from her "boy persona" by removing the braces that were on her arms and chest.
I love how Psychology & Sociology have been tossed aside for whatever trend the internet and people have for genders and sexualities.
Entitlement is clearly a mental disease at this point with people.
Honestly, it is a byproduct of the times. We have gotten too cozy with our world and have completely forgotten how to critically think.
Shit like this makes me long for a major war to suddenly take place just so people can prioritize what really matters (which isn't faux outrage on Twatter).
He clarified this a long time ago. Don't understand why people are sending him death threats now?
Because they want THEIR truth to be accepted as the ACTUAL truth.
@@Doomwolf82002 That just means that they want their OPINIONS to be accepted as truth
@@TheSpArTaNs1962 It was never an opinion or a truth to begin with.
*_It was a blatant lie they kept told to themselves and they lived with._*
@@crystalwings4520 Yep. This is why I classify it as opinion. After all, the truth can't be changed, only our perception of it. Delusions are also opinions, albeit ones that are false, hence as you've said, lies.
@@TheSpArTaNs1962 Exactly!
This is why i dont like twitter, the people on it give good reasons to dislike the lgbtq community
Thank you Oda for making this clear, the whole debate kinda ruined her as a character. Honestly I don’t give a shit if she identifies as trans or not, which in fact she identifies as no one other than Oden. Just let her be who she wants to be 💀
Edit: Having a tall, buff, pretty (and cute) masculine women is already a treat so why do we have to make her trans? 🤦♂️
I always felt Kaido calls her "his son" not because he "respects her gender" but because he really wanted a male successor and he's just coping, especially since she wears a disguise. He's just a classic misogynist, nothing fancy, and she just cosplays Oden and wants to be him, so she acts like she actually is a man
I love how it doesn't seem to occur to these idiots that their so-called 'gotcha quote' might not have any of the context they are digging out of it in the original Japanese... and their proof is just one of their own doing wishful thinking translation &/or inserting their own political viewpoints. Something we know has happened with other mangas & light novels on this very topic.
Eg. there was a recent one with a character who clearly identified/thought of themselves as a CROSS-DRESSER, & the translator changed that to trans. Only for idiots to then get all pissy when the creator got annoyed about the mistranslation.
That's exactly it. If these twittards knew anything about Japanese history they would have realised that the only reason Kaido calls Yamato his son is because only man could became the Shogun but Kaido didn't have a son so he raised Yamato as a boy in order to put her in the position of Shogun one day.
It's funny how they love actual sexism when it allows them to point to a character and say "look! A Trans man!"
Yes, kaido even stated he wish he had a son instead of a daughter
misogynist people throwing that word around again maybe he just wanted a son or just mocking his daughter
Yamato does not identify as a male, she identifies as Oden who just happened to be male, and she is not well in the head because wanting to be someone else and having delusions that you are that person is not healthy, real shocker there.
To quote Caital, from Destiny 2: "Names have power."
“Having delusions you are isn’t healthy”
Well. I mean her dad starved her. Beat her. Locked her up. Had his underlings fight her. Killed any of his underlings that showed her an ounce of kindness
She was hella abused of course she’s delusional.
@@johnnoreau3570And?
thats literally showing why it isnt healthy lmao
@@DronesOverTheMoon and? Of course it’s not healthy it’s abuse. Do you need that spelled out for you? It’s almost like being physically abused makes you think differently from others? Sorry. I only take this seriously because I was abused. It’s not cute. It literally changes how you see the world.
@@johnnoreau3570 I think you may be misreading what the message is in their post. They're not disagreeing with you. They're just doing it with some sarcasm added on.
1:28 key word “chooses”, having gender dysphoria is not something that you choose
There is honestly nothing good at Twitter.
Crazy how the people who are calling people transphobic are also sending death threats for no reason
It’s how the political left operates
There’s a simple reason for that. They’re just terrible self centered people.
Mentally ill people acting mentally ill wow surprising
@@SpaceTriangles67 facts. They are obviously mentally Ill I mean claiming transgender ideas arent rooted in mental illness would go against all the evidence we have. There's a big percentage of cases where people go to therapy to get it solved. Well it's our fault as humans for allowing them to have that much control
they just crazy
I don't get the argument here with these people. They seem to (purposely) forget that Yamato doesn't want to be a man, she wants to be Oden specifically. But this doesn't fit with what these people want so Oda is wrong. Its pretty crazy how deluded they can be when the author himself comes out and sets things straight and they say he's wrong.
Yeah, considering they lump tomboys with the opposite sex and vice versa... They're so stupidly selfish that they'll attack any and everything that'll say just simple facts of the matter.
I forgot the word in Japanese for it which would represent Yamato perfectly. It’s basically mean identifying as a specific person. Which explains why she call herself he bc oden is a he. Makes u think how common is this if there’s a specific word for this shit😂
i hate it when they hit you with the "how can you be a one piece fan and also be X or Y???"
The irony of these people calling other people bigots, demonstrating that they've never looked at a dictionary in their lives.
We really need to make these Twitter harassers fear us.
Own a gun
Only Twitter harassers? What about those on other apps/sites? And how exactly are you gonna make thousands of people fear you? Who do you think you are? Batman? Lol. I'm not defending anyone btw, just pointing out how stupid this sounds. Let's feed the trolls and give them what they want, genius.
@@hhgff778 relax bro XD
Meme on them! make them see the consequences for their actions!
@@miguelangelramirez8813 I'm not angry lmao.
Defending and protecting a marginalized group is no excuse to be an irrational, emotionally driven POS who threatens the lives of others they don't disagree with or dislike.
They aren’t a marginalized group never have never will
@@Steven9567 literally the most privileged group in the entire history. Nothing to strive for, nothing to create or contribute. But immediately praised simply by their sexual preference.
Are they marginalized though?
are they though since they kept on harassing people?
There defending an idiotic ideology
Twitter just brings out the worst in ourselves. No matter what your ideas are, what you identify with, what you believe in, etc. Twitter is a dump. Twitter either boosts your ego or serves as a rage channeling tool.
Bon Clay LGBT ? 😅
He is a man who assumes 100% his share of femininity, which is reflected in him through his cross-dressing. However, he is not concerned with gender identity ! Absolutely not !
The first thing he says is he is both a man and woman lol
@@GigasGalvantula Exactly.
He isn't a man at the morning and woman at night or other bullshit.
He is also not in transition "man to woman" or "woman to man".
If we want to be perfectly honest, he doesn't really represent this community even if transvestites are the basis.
Bon Clay and transvestites in general only represent a very small pourcentage of all people who call themselves LGBT nowadays.
And worse, he does not fight to protest against the "oppression" of which he would have been a victim and seeks to appreciate himself by his human qualities. Quite the opposite of the whacks of our world.
@soulrinouc3449 I'm not exactly on your side with this one just so you know
I love the fact they all refer to English translation, even tho Japanese has both muscular and feminine ways of speaking about yourself or others and both can be used by males and females and doesn't mean someone identifies as trans. You can see that in a way a lot of Tomboy characters speak, usually using more muscular terms.
The reason why Yamato will refer to herself in muscular terms is simple, Oden, she mimics all that Oden did, his habits, and his way of speech. Heck, if Oden believes himself to be a flying purple elephant Yamato will too
Ya, wtf? I think the internet or that community just wants to start wars or get offended for attention. She clearly a woman she got oppai. For some odd reason, the us and eroupe have gotta a lot of people who want attention or want to feel offended, so they can be part of something.
Muscular or masculine?
Yeah, they were biased translating it
EXACTLY!!!!! Western people are SO FUCKING dumb and use there western beliefs and ideas and compare it to japanese culture, which does not work. HOW in the fucking world can people THINK that yamato is trans or whatever? I instantly knew when it was revealed that yamato is female, but called herself "oden" that she adored oden and wanted to be like him. It still baffles me that this trans bullshit was brought up.
So respecting pronouns for fictional characters is uber important until the second you claim they are trans with no evidence. Then you can ignore them AND have the morale high ground according to this people
To me ok, Yamato Identify as Oden specifically, impersonating him/Yamato believes she's Oden reincarnate.
Which Oden is a man therefore uses male pronouns which to me sign of respect I guess.
@@stevengabrielromano526 yh it was that (impersonation). Yamato identifying as Kozuki Oden.. that was the main standpoint of the that context. not whether being a woman or a man was ever referred to when we first meet Yamato in the manga and anime. i have fell behind but i wonder if Yamato will talk more about that reincarnation later on once i catch up... still on the Wano Arc lol
Trans people are trying so hard to gain validation even from fictional characters
To clarify,
Yamato uses 'boku' when referring to herself which is 'me' used in a masculine tone. While feminine version of 'me' is 'watashi'.
Yamato refers herself as a boy because she had masculine mannerism since her childhood. So rather than 'gender profiling' it was a show of a more masculine female character by oda which a lot of anime do.
Western audience brought the whole 'gender agenda' in this, unless oda himself specifically said he/she/it is of a certain gender nobody have the right to assume anything
I heard translations of straight characters are now made in a say you can't tell if they're male or female because of the west pronoun war.
True, but it looks like he actually has here. Assuming that it is true of course
Y'all mfs
Iirc, watashi is a very neutral, even formal way to refer to yourself.
@@Bigmellow_ 😘
I'm a straight girl but when I was in high school I was a serious tomboy. My guy friends from that time still to this day call me "Chad", refer to me as their "little bro" and will absent-mindedly call me "he", because it's affectionate and rapport-building for them. I'm much more feminine now, but I still love they do those things because it's a throwback to a part of myself I used to really embrace. Am I a guy because of this? No! Not at all!! It's just a nuanced part of my personality because humans are- brace yourself- MULTIFACETED UNIQUE NUANCED INDIVIDUALS. I identify with Yamato a lot in this way and am really trying not to pull my hair out at all the people who have such little lives that they cling to the identity of fictional characters as justification for their own identities. Just be confident in yourself- if you were things like this wouldn't completely shake your world. Twitter nobodies are insane
I'm someone whose sister enrolled in a secondary school said to be a "vagabond dent", and had to tough up herself when I was not there to cover her everything.
She also takes pride in her title "bro" her friends dearly gave her~ even now that she is much more feminine, her close friends from secondary school still call her "bro" when they are together. So, I totally get your sentiment there.
"i was a tomboy" gentlemen.... we lost another one... DAMNIT
I find it ironic that the people who do the whole "DON'T DISCRIMINATE BASED ON GENDER!" scream and cry when they can't assign someone's gender based on their "likes"... Twitter freaks are truly the worst scum
I think a lot of people's interpretations on yamato as a character are based on their own personal experiences, and how they personally understood oda's writing of the character. Its the case with a lot of the more ambiguously gendered characters in media, yamato isn't the only one. But that's because everyone experiences gender differently. The frustrating part is people being unable to realise that and just saying everyone that disagrees with them is either "pushing an agenda" or "transphobic".
So on that note, I'd like to share my interpretation. And that is that Yamato does not care for gender, or for pronouns. Not really. There was never any fighting against being identified as a girl, and the identifying as a man only came about with the hero worship and LARPing as Oden (because that's what it is, really, dressing up as and role playing as another person in day to day life because of the sheer admiration held towards said person). There never seems to be any discomfort in the body being shown. Yamato is just channelling Oden. If Oden was a man, then yamato channels Oden the man, like in Canon. But if Oden had identified as a woman or a noodle or a sword or something else, than that's what yamato would have gone with instead. In yamato's case, it was never about gender. It was about Oden. So i think it's wrong to say that yamato is trans. I think gender apathetic is more accurate if you wanna label it something. Because not everyone who doesn't care for their biological sex is trans. And in yamatos case, well, gender is irrelevant. Only Oden matters. So when yamato is LARPing then, yamato probably likes to be referred to as he/him. But when yamato is just being yamato, then any pronouns work, she/her, he/him, they/them... it doesn't really matter. Because the thought "I can't be Oden because I'm a girl" never crossed yamato's mind as far as we know, implying that yamato does not care for gender.
But like I said, that's just my interpretation based in how I read one piece and my own experiences with gender. It's not the undeniable truth, and I'm perfectly fine with it being disproven if ever oda decides to clear up the ambiguity in his writing and state it outright what yamato prefers. Which he is under no obligation to do in my opinion, its his characters, and he chooses how he writes them.
@@ManCheat2 what kind of gentleman replies to a human beings story like this lmao
It’s crazy how these “fans” think they know more than the person who wrote the damn story.
It's just stupid ... yamato wanted to be oden that's why she said she is a man ....not cause of some gender thing ...these people saying read the menga don't under stand a single thing about the deeper thoughts of characters
...ofcourse she was home prisoned all her life and did not have any access to this trash society
*imagine being mad your headcanon isn't canon* oh wait...that is Twitter again
I remember there was some confusion about the gender early on. People weren't sure if Yamato identified as a man because they were transgender, or simply because they specifically identified as Oden, who was a man. I don't remember this level of toxicity though. But part of her character arc was that she needed to realize she wasn't Oden, she needed to be herself. And if Oda confirmed it himself, there's no question. She wasn't identifying herself as a man, she was identifying as a specific man. That was a big part of her character arc, to learn to be her own person.
They? Yamato is singular person not multiple also no such thing as Tran people
@@Steven9567 they can be used for one person fyi
Yamato had a dream to be like Oden, the only positive person in her knowledge in a world where everyone else was evil. I doubt any of Kaido's female followers were role models for her. It's like a girl wanting to be Superman because all she read were Superman books and she had never heard of Supergirl or Superwoman or Power Girl. The character Mary Marvel was created specifically because girls wanted to be Captain Marvel (no ,his name is not Shazam) but not the male version.
honestly us a community have no place to say anything about odas discissions on HIS story, if he wants to make yamato a woman then we should accept it and vice versa 🤷🏾♂
You know when u have a hero or someone u look up to and you tell yourself you wanna be just like them, well that Yamato but took it personally and more serious 💀😭
It's amazing how these people can read the manga, read the full context on why Yamato called herself a man (literally took on the identity of person out of respect) but then goes on to say she is trans even though nothing in her story hints at being trans and the kicker is there is actual trans characters in the story. People take minor stories in one piece and miss the big picture.
Thing is chances are high they aren't reading the mangaka. Only doing a google search to "prove they are right."
@@angelphoenix7784 All it takes is one fuckhead to use any image/video/recording out of context and give misinformation to the unenlightened masses. The mainstream media did it for YEARS with the "very fine people" quote.
A full island of them.
she doesnt even call herslef a man, she says shes kozuki oden thats it, kaido calls her his son because he wanted a boy and kaido is a lil whiney bitch. and even if she did say she was a man(been a while since i read it my bad) it was within the oden context always, never about being trans or having gender dysphoria
Here's a thing: they don't read the manga. Just typical casual western anime fans who bring their american politics and pov everywhere