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- Shannon Sharpe tells Skip Bayless why he thinks Michael Jordan likes Kobe Bryant more than LeBron James.
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Kobe Bryant vs LeBron James - Skip and Shannon passionately debate who is better | UNDISPUTED
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Does Michael Jordan have the final say in the Kobe vs LeBron debate?
Kobe did respond to child's. It was just broken up. And it was more like. 2 piece sucked punches . I mean Kobe was right in your face. How would he have time to react to that???
lebron, lavar, cowboys, kaep, repeat
No..Why should MJ's opinion be the only one that matters?.
Silly stuff.
All Kobe got on LeBron is FT%, shooting and rings..
LeBron beats Kobe in literally EVERYTHING else.
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED 1. Kobe is a better defender because Kobe only guarded PG or SG that's why he makes all defensive teams. 2. The Best defensive players in the NBA for the past 5-6yrs have been SF. The Best 2 way NBA players are all small forwards. Also it's like arguing anyone in the league is on Kwahi or IGGY level because they are in good defensive teams and people run away from these guys. But for LeBron he also guards 1-5 and still has better defensive ratings then most people. Last year Kwahi had the worst stat in his career because people isolated him on defence does that make him a bad defender. LeBron has a poor defensive team where his PF can't defend and starting Center is smaller then him and is non athletic.
Bill russell wasn't a leader like kobe lebron or mj... Kobe and mj both have winning records in finals appearances and thats what matters to me. They all had great teams but lebron just doesnt have that extra like jordan or kobe. Kyrie does... Wade does... But thats a whole other debate.
I felt every word when Shannon said "LOOK AT ME SKIP WHEN I'M TALKING TO YOU" 😂😂😂 .
Lmao, dam same here
WORD
Lmfao
#facts
Skip still ignored him lol
Shannon: Why did you pick up from 2002 if kobe was drafted in 1996
Skip: So😂
What about Jordan from '84 - '92 🤔🤨
Shaq 😁😁😁
@@sheltonyoung3091 Jordan 84-92? MJ won 2 rings by then...
@@sheltonyoung3091 People were already saying MJ was the best in the league by '87 lol
Kobe ain’t even play much those years then as soon as he did get more minutes the Lakers started winning championships again
“look at me when i’m talking to you!!!!” 😂😂😂😂😂
Zakaria Zakaria lmao I just went crazy on that part
Zakaria Zakaria I thought my Father (RIP) was lecturing me. Lol
Hahaha. This guy is too funny.
Zakaria Zakaria he is hilarious
That was that football ego coming out 😂
“You want me in this chair, you NEED me in this chair.” That hitting real different right bout now😂🤣
Oh truer words were never spoken! The Undisputed we used to know & love is OVER!!!
And he knew it too
Even truer now LMAO
RIP Kobe Bryant, you will always be remembered.
Yep and it's sad that the fake fans cared about him after shitting on him in his career Ex: Whitlock and Nick Wrong
vLordzHaveMercy !!!!!!!!
@@KVJ-w7h facts 💯 you ain't lying
Kyle Lee Jr completely agree man there was so much fake love
@@KVJ-w7h Especially when I heard Nick Wright talk about him. The same guy that trashed his jersey retirement by talking about Colorado
Boy, Shannon is worth every penny they paying him.
Because he's going on stats he's reading a bunch of stats but doesn't tell you what LeBron really did in the playoffs playing in a mediocre Eastern conference that conference hasn't been anything in the last 20 years Kobe had to go through the toughest teams in the Western conference eyeballing it go look at each other's highlights Kobe's game looks much smoother and on point and has better iq
@@thefatsh2492 and *59 win Orlando Magic
FACTS
Exactly Shannon is payed to puy LaBum name out there. Jordan did nt have to do that pay people to Speak his name. To be. A false Great
@@thefatsh2492 Kolby is Better
Shannon Sharpe the only reason I watch. he funny asllll
Isaiah the King
Best debater yet
to me i watch because of both shannon and skip they both funny asf
Isaiah the King every morning
Isaiah the King no lie lol but skip funny too
No matter who the greatest player is, Rest In Peace Kobe Bryant. Basketball Legend, Father, Inspiration
kobegoat still
@@iancaesar24 not even close
@@mallyrawl9558 Kobe is more skilled than even MJ, just isn’t the GOAT due to being robbed of accolades
Cheater, womaniser etc
@@iancaesar24 Kobe not even top 8 bro what dym
“ I’m not trying to open a lock I don’t need combinations , I just asked you a simple question “ - Shannon 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Shannon is crazy, Lebron is way below Mike and Kobe.
@@keithmccauley9881 I’ll give you mike but Kobe? Dude is more overrated than bill Russell IMO. All time great still but Shannon brought up good points here, although he left out the efficiency part and the Kobe chokefest in the finals
@@twigs3293 exactly these Jordan lover just don’t like that lebron is and always will be in the goat debate. Kobe not even top 5
@@keithmccauley9881
Bron averages more points, rebounds, assist, steals, blocks, a better shooting percentage overall and from 3. More overall winshares and has a winning record against Kobe.... just stop.
Bron and Mike are 1A,1B
@@keithmccauley9881 “LeBron is below Kobe”😂
*Accolades*
Championships: Kobe (5>4)
MVP: LeBron (4>1)
Finals MVP: LeBron (4>2)
All-stars: Tie (18)
All-NBAs: LeBron (17>15)
All-Defense: Kobe (12>6)
Scoring titles: Kobe (2>1)
Assist leader: LeBron (1>0)
ROTY: LeBron
*Per game & totals (regular season)*
PPG: LeBron
RPG: LeBron
APG: LeBron
SPG: LeBron
BPG: LeBron
Total points: LeBron
Total rebounds: LeBron
Total assists: LeBron
Total steals: LeBron
Total blocks: LeBron
FG%: LeBron
3P%: LeBron
FT%: Kobe
*Per game & totals (playoffs)*
PPG: LeBron
RPG: LeBron
APG: LeBron
SPG: LeBron
BPG: LeBron
Total points: LeBron
Total rebounds: LeBron
Total assists: LeBron
Total steals: LeBron
Total blocks: LeBron
FG%: LeBron
3P%: LeBron
FT%: Kobe
In less seasons played LeBron already has more MVP’s, Finals MVP’s, made more all-NBA teams, has more points, rebounds, assists, blocks, steals. LeBron averages more on everything and have a better FG% lmao.
The facts and numbers are saying Kobe is not even close to LeBron🤷♂️
Skip literally fell in every trap shannon laid out there 🤣
well actually everything Shannon said can be rebuttaled with facts skip just don't know how to talk even when Chris child's punched kobe child's ran so skip just don't know how to debate
@@devionhicks4818 You can try to, but he just stated objective facts.
@@MegaStealthAssasin nah Shannon don't state facts he speaks as a fan every NBA player who actually played with these people always speaks different
@@devionhicks4818 17-5 bro I'm sorry, try again😂Players can say w,e they want!! MJ is the 2nd greatest player to ever live in my eyes and the dude is horrible at evaluating talent! I say all of that to say this.. 17-5 is 17-5 either way you slice it son. Kobe had the chance to prove he was better the guy just failed miserably 😂OH WHILE CRUSHING HIM IN EVERY STATISTICAL CATEGORY BUT **FREE THORWS**!
@@devionhicks4818 He stated nothing but FACTS😂 What are you even talking about?
Skip out here looking like Batman dodging all these questions😂😂😂
More like NEO FROM THE MATRIX😂
Flash maybe?
Skip got Shannon tht job they luv each other
I don't know who's better between Kobe and Lebron, but I definitely know that Shannon is a better debater than Skip.
He just talks loud and debates using alot of false dilemmas. Either X or Y is true, when in reality, A B C D Z U H G or F could all be true.
@@dustinwroten353 what?? Man stop
@@kingralo5954 In his defense, that's how most debaters are, but we were specifically talking about Shannon Sharpe lol
@@dustinwroten353 he spoke nothing but facts tho
@@kingralo5954 not really Skip is just not a good enough debater to counter Shannon's points
“He ain’t even have enough fingers for all them rings”😂
The disrespect Kobe gets is outright amazing, clearly no one has seen this man in his prime...
Whenever Skip starts losing an argument, he always brings up the 2011 finals!!!! LMAO
Its easy to pick out a lot of little FAILURES to try to cover large Success
Then he says when the game is on the line who’s taking the last shot he always goes there then says Ray Allen and Kyrie saves his career
He do hav2 to go that far back. LeBron Labricker first year in LA. Straight Bomber. Real Resant event
➕ hes has lost to the Clippers 2 Twice
Well its all he needs because Kobe never performed that bad in the finals but even had Kobe met Lebron and beat him these fools would stillbask the question. 5 beats 3. He was really influential to the eam. Lebron lost 2 finals he should have won.
@@adamsamuel8593 11 beats 6 so bill russel is the goat. Also which 2 finals the only one is the mavs which swept kobe after he won the finals so if Lebron shouldve won the 2011 finals kobe, shouldve beat the mavs in the 2011 playoffs or am i wrong?
“Skip I’m Not Trying To Open A Lock I Don’t Need Combinations” Man Shannon Comebacks Are Diabolical🤣💯
"He didn't win eleven... he won leven!" - Shannon Sharpe
Haha that was hilarious
*'Lem... Just saying
No it's "lev'em!" Lmao
Lem
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"I'm not trying to open a lock..I don't need combinations" lmao
That was so quick, lol. Shannon.
TheSaluskin253 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💦💦💦💦💦
Shannon Sharp is sharp as heck
TheSaluskin253 that and 3 piece extra crispy killed me. 😀😀😀😀
It took me a few seconds to get it 😂
"He gave him that 3 piece extra crispy.. on ON COMMAND
With no side!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm DONE
BN FaCe lol
HILARIOUS🤣LEGENDARY!!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 OMG I'm dying
Lebron didn't have to deal with the competition Kobe dealt in the West when Kobe was playing with bums around 2005 to 2007. Let's leave it at that.
The amount of deflecting skip does in this debate 😂💀🤦♂️
One would think he's a Jedi master.
The man hit him with a 3pc extra crispy lmao 🤣
L
Anthony Lopez wit no sides
On command 🤣
🍗🍗🍗🥤
With no sides , not even a dry A$$ buscuit
Notice how Skip skips over 2011 when Kobe got swept by Dallas.
@Jibril Ahmed with Boobie Gibson getting starting minutes and in MIA with no knees D Wade. You cant possibly compare prime tim, prime manu, prime tp, and arguably the greatest coach of all time to Dallas.
Kobe got injured in game 1 and still put up a better fight than Bron on the Superteam
@@Be.Blessed yes you can compare because dallas was a good team just like most western teams. East was weak. Lebron had no competition till the eastern conference finals. In the west every team had the potential to give you matchup problems.
Jibril Ahmed nah 4-1 once and beat them once
jaccbolton lmfaooo u dumb af. The east was loaded back then. Boston still has its big 4 and Indiana was loaded as well when they had Prime west, Prime hibbert and upcoming PG and Danny granger, people forget that the east wasn’t a pushover. Even had some decent teams like the Knicks with melo and stoudemaire
Shannon: why didn’t you pick up with Kobe in 1996 when he came into the league
Skip: because he was only 18
Shannon: you know when LeBron came into the league he was 18
Skip: sO!!!!!! 🤤
Skip seem to use only the high points to make his argument. Never the time when they was in a slump. He b skipping 3 and 4 years. Like his guys just fell out the sky like the terminator
Kobe was the first gaurd to ever come out of HS. It was deemed impossible which paved the way for Lebron. Lebron also already had forward size so that’s why Skip said so Shannon didn’t have an argument.
@@Commentsofthemonth skip was being a hypocrite yet again which is what he always does when it comes to LeBron or really any of the points he tries to make
It took Kobe four years to get to the level that LeBron was at by year 2 he would’ve been the first overall pick in the draft with or without Kobe not trying to throw shade at the man but facts are facts I sure Kobe made the decision easier but still
@@keianroth2669 In kobe 4th year At 21 Kobe and Shaq got us a ring. What did Lebron do in his second year that equals!!!!!!
Kobe won his first title at 21 and his fifth tittle at 31. How old was Lebron when he got his first ring??? Even better is Lebron going to get a 5th ring???
Skip: Did Kobe need Ray Allen to save his career?
Shannon: No, he needed Shaq and Pau Gasol😂😂
Shaq couldn't win without kobe and Pau gasol definitely couldn't win without kobe.
Chris Gee Ok Kobefan, Shaq won without Kobe btw
Chris Gee Kobe could barely reach the playoffs without shaq or pau, Lebron has dragged teams that started Eric snow to the finals
Jumbo Chambers i love how you dont mention about eastern Conference it is proved that western conference is much harder get to finals look your mans this last season didnt even clinched playoffs and lbj is my one favourite players but come on man dont pretend it like kobe had quality starters Nba d league as finest i will respectfully disagree especially when LeBron had hof ilgauskas
@@arianagandhi4582 you mean where Dwyane wade gave shaq his 4th ring?
3 piece extra crispy with no sides
😂😂😂😂
KYDSLADE 453 No sides drink or buscuit
Game Over lol
LOLOLOLOLOL DED 💀
THAT KILLED ME! lol
"Man put hands on him, prayed for him right there on the court. Bless his heart Lord"
- Shannon Sharpe
🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣
This clip will never be the same. 😭😭💔 R.I.L. Black Mamba 😥 🖤🐍
Who tf says RIL? Cringe kid
RIP Kobe !!! man we still miss you a lot 🙏😩
He’s brings up LeBron losing in 2011 against the mavs as a way to put him under Kobe even though Kobe got swept by the same team in the second round...
weird, I could have sworn Kobe still has 5 championships to Lebron's 3.
@Swag God how many games robert horry start ? How many allstar games horry go to? Debunked lol
Did Kobe have 2 other all stars and a super team with him? Aw on
ok*
Swag God don’t forget about prime shaq
Skip didn't even make a case for Kobe at all, he just recited history, inaccurately at that & talked about commercials. He was so eager to hop on the opportunity to bash Lebron he forgot what he was doing.
Then kindly ignored the times Horry and Fisher saved them. 😂
This is my favorite comment ever hahahaha
@nabil chowdhury ain’t just rings. lebron isn’t “definitely” better then Kobe. Even the Goat says so. but that ain’t even the point. if you watched them both play Kobe’s more physical more clutch better mentality better defender more of an all star. jus a better overall player. if you reply i’ll do more research and prove
my point
@nabil chowdhury Can’t even compares playoffs either because lebron had it easy. the west had better teams more superstars and better competition. the east was soft and only played good teams in the conference finals and finals. when kobe played good teams throughout the whole playoffs
@@anthonyt4452 I’m sorry but Kobe is NOT the more versatile player than LeBron if that’s what u are getting at
”I didn't say 11. I said elem.” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
Aye 😂😂😂
Lol 😂 “prayed for him in the middle of the court” 😂
LMAO, "3 Piece extra crispy"
On command
he got the KFC special! LOL
hahahahahaha that made spit me my coffee...
Triple M “With No Sides!!!”
With NO Sides 😂😂😂😂💀💀💀
Lebron 4 MVP's 3 FMVP's
Kobe 1 MVP 2 FMVP's
Regular season
Lebron 27.3 ppg 7.1 rpg 6.9 apg 49% FG
Kobe 25.0 ppg 5.2 rpg 4.7 apg 44% FG
Playoffs
Lebron 28.0 ppg 8.5 rpg 6.5 apg 47% FG
Kobe 25.6 ppg 5.1 rpg 4.7 apg 44% FG
Finals
Lebron 26.7 ppg 9.6 rpg 7.1 apg 45% FG
Kobe 25.1 ppg 5.6 rpg 5.1 apg 41% FG
Game 7's
Lebron 32.3 ppg 9.3 rpg 4.8 apg 45.1 FG
Kobe 22.2 ppg 8.0 rpg 5.0 apg 38.9 FG
Elimination Games
Lebron 31.1 ppg 11.0 rpg 7.9 apg 46.3 FG
Kobe 22.3 ppg 5.6 rpg 3.7 apg 41.7 FG
PER
Lebron ranked #2 All time
Kobe ranked #22 All time
WS
Lebron ranked #11 All time
Kobe ranked #15 All time
WS per 48 min
Lebron ranked #6 All time
Kobe ranked #56 All time
BPM
Lebron ranked #1 All time
Kobe ranked #33 All time
Lebron has beat Kobe in PPG RPG APG SPG BPG TS% eFG% ORB% DRB% ORtg DRtg OWS DWS OBPM DBPM VORP.
Clutch playoffs
Lebron 8-19 on go-ahead or tying shots in final 24 seconds.
Kobe 7-28 on go-ahead or tying shots in final 24 seconds.
Current playoffs records held
Lebron 18
Kobe 2
Current finals records held
Lebron 18
Kobe 1
Triple doubles reg season
Lebron 37
Kobe 19
Triple doubles playoffs
Lebron 14
Kobe 0
Finals triple doubles
Lebron 6
Kobe 0
do lebron vs tim duncan
Kobe so overated bro.
But stats don’t matter according to MJ and Kobe fans
Very impressive. But where is Lebron now in the playoffs? Talking about lebron being greatest ever, when he is not even the best player right now.
petty G MJ never made playoffs when he was in the wizards
Any time shannon destroys skip, skip just changes the narrative. Can't face all the facts just picks a couple to focus on to fit his narrative.
EliteMez, pretty much.
Shane Jones it’s clear huh... that’s why he wasnt finals mvp for every ring he got. Where lebron and mj both have. Weird. Kobe was the greatest.. ball hog. Hence why it took him 50 shots to get 60 points in his last game. Terrible statistic.
@@lukazebeljan8914 . No
@@fengolasting what do u mean no. It's absolutely true
and everytime Lebron's faults is shown, you change the narrative as well. Hmmm.. I wonder why
Skip got bodied here😂🤣😭 Shannon was on mamba mode💪🏾. Rip to the legend Kobe🙌🏾🙏🏾
"3 piece EXTRA CRISPY" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
That had me DYING!! LMAO
Shannon won LeBron is better
Vidale Martin lmaooooo
Bwa I'm crine 😂😂😂
with no sides
Shannon destroyed skip here. Especially bringing up the Chris Childs fight. Lmao. 3 piece -extra crispy
well technically child's ran after the meyword sucker pinch skip just don't know how to debate
Doesn’t change the facts that lebron bests Kobe in all of those statistical categories lol
@@davontejones709 Karl Malone best LeBron in all statistics does that mean he's better the NBA is easier to get better offensive stats sorry try again
dave m when you go from stats to fighting you lost the debate
@Damyris Carlton uh yes he does dude the only thing LeBron has over Karl is assist know your facts next time
Skip: “in combination “
Shannon: I ain’t tryna open no lock! 😂😂
11:55
🤣🤣
First and foremost Shannon knows aint nobody more dominant than shaq but Lebron Played with Shaq so what is he really talking about who's better than shaq that Lebron played with Shaq, and Kobe won the Chip against the Celtics the year they paired up which means Lebron couldn't get to the finals with the most dominant Center in the League but Shannon aint finna discuss that all he's gonna talk about is how Lebron using his longevity to rack up these numbers does that mean he's the goat no that jus means he's been good player for a long time and its taking him longer to reach the and surpass the people he's supposed to be greater than Jordan accomplished all his feats in 15 seasons Kobe won his last title in his 14th season and Lebron is what in his 19th season and still hasn't caught up to Jordan and still doesn't have more rings than Kobe that says a lot.
@@StevieDSt00piD you really don’t know basketball if u think shaq was the most dominant center in the league when he played with lebron you do realize Shaq was 37 years old when he played with Lebron.
@@michaelchristy5186 Oh no my friend you must not know basketball, Either way Lebron has had way better team mates then Kobe and Jordan for the past 10 years has he not??? And he still hasn't surpassed them in rings he still ain't surpassed Jordan in advanced stats and you want me to believe this man who's 4-10 in the finals is the goat like that's better than 6-0 in the finals... no sir Kobe gotta better finals record and everybody say it ain't about chips then what is it about that's the end game of every season is it not everybody wanna say numbers don't lie until it comes to that finals record.
@@StevieDSt00piD ok so by your argument that rings are what determine the greatness of a player so by your logic bill Russell is the goat 11-1 in the finals. Also lebron has had a joke of roster twice when he went to the finals in 2007 and 2018 where he carried those 2 joke of teams to the finals. Kobe always had a solid roster when he made it to the finals and Jordan’s roster is considered to be the best of all time. And lebron does not have 1 teammate better than Shaq.
3 piece extra crispy with no sides 😂😂 I’m dying
Skip might loose his show to Shannon Lol
kev smith Hopefully skip is a horrible commentator, so biased on anything.
lose
Shannon going after Strahan, this is light....
Shannon is a good entertainer, but Skip and Shannon are a good duo
kev smith heck nah
IDK why but man I love me some Shannon Sharpe!
LeBron is an amazing player. AllTime GREAT.
I'd take Kobe every day and twice on Sunday.
Best comment 👏
Shannon should be a lawyer with his arguing skills, damn
TDB11 right??
TDB11 ikr
not really nba didnt really start until 90s.
TDB11 ikr, although it’s Skip Bayless so who knows XD
If he was a lawyer, his clients would all end up in jail.
"Gave him that 3-piece, EXTRA CRISPY--- ON COMMAND" 😂😂😂
Poor SKIP didn't do his home work for this. Notice every time Shanon ask SKIP a question he go right back to looking to his notes
Yes he did
Mic Easy The_Real_BRC No because Kobe isn’t better than LeBron lmao, Lebron is better shooter, passer, more Finals MVPs, MVPs, All-NBA teams, All-Stars, etc.
@@egg723 shooting idk more like he’s more efficient 💯🤷🏾♂️ but shooting that has to go to bean
Skip is not a real Kobe fan. If they gotten a real Kobe fan to argue with Shannon would not be that confident
Pure Skip is definitely right🤣🤣Kobe is 2 levels over Lebron as a player, 2 levels, he just wasn't obsessed about statistics like Lebron, he only cares about the numbers and when it comes finals, he choke and his incredible team lose against Dallas. Kobe always plays better than Lebron when it is most important and 5 titles against 3 isn't only argument, Kobe won last 2 titles with worse team than every other Lebron's team when he won the title. Also Buill Russell isn't the greatest of all time because of 11 championships he has because you can't compare someone who played more than 60 years ago with someone who plays now. Yeah, if Buill Russell had 11 championships in this era, he would be the GOAT, because in this era, it is nearly impossible to have more than 6 titles. Buill Russell played in 60s, while Kobe and Lebron played long time together, in the same era, and in that same era Kobe has more rings than Lebron, but that's not the point. Lebron was never soo competitive like Kobe, he never had that mentality like Kobe, I just never saw it it Kobe has ability to make championship team with role players, Lebron didn't do it.
Kobe is better. Just think if you had to win one game, who would you take? Kobe every day
Kobe to win the game take the last shot give him the ball his mind set to win was stronger then labron
"i aint even say 'eleven' i said 'lemn" shannon is soooo funny
Jordan Shepherd 😂😂😂😂"lemn"
The man hit him with a 3 piece extra crispy skip 😂😂😂
Let’s be honest...Shannon makes a better point than skip
I agree bc skip didn't do his homework on this one.
@@edgarramirez9113 neither did shannon because Robert Horry 7-0 in the finals and had to bail Kobe out
@@ChrisC-327 word!!!!!
Absolutely
My question is did lebron not have any stars on a team cause Shannon loves to say Shaq and love but did lebron not have a whole squad instead of 1-2 players
Kobe came into a Lakers team that was already trimmed for a run for like two years straight. He came off the bench because the had a squad already.. not KB fault Shannon bro..he struggled but he's is way better than LeBron.. even til this day and he's unfortunately not with us anymore.. 💯
He went. To a team with a top 10 player while Lebron had to build from the ground up! And kobe is not on same universe as Lebron
“Never seen a superstar meltdown”? Didn’t MJ meltdown during game 5 of the 1989 ECF against the Pistons? He was so shook he only took 8 shots in 46 minutes of play.
yes he did I remember
Cool Breeze
Not supposed to remember that.
Yeah and still had more than 8 points
He hadn't learn to win.. But once he did he never lost
Bryan Lindsay - False, see 1995 Easter Conference Semis aka Horace Grant's revenge. Don't forget about his time as a Wizard.
If stats are the criteria then wilt chamberlain is the GOAT
Marcus Smart? Who That? It'll be harder to make shots when you get older no?
Wilt played in an 11 team league with dentist and carpenters. Get out
Trey Simpson No, actually.
1. There were much less teams in the NBA so it was much easier to play.
2. African Americans and people of color were discriminated against in the NBA so a bunch of foreign players couldn't play, making the league easier.
3. The shot clock was much faster, which meant contested shots and rebounds. Big men get rebounds and can make contested shots.
4. The players were much smaller and lighter, so centers and power forwards ruled.
thekid26 lol
Iys not just stats he has more finals MVP's regular season MVP's he also didn't have shaq and he made it to the finals 7 times in a row he repeated with out a talented shaq only thing that you say about Kobe is he can take the cane winner and his defensive selections
how is calling someone a b-word makes the player worse?? 🤣
Great Tojo when you soft, words effect you the most
Jason Joseph basketball is not about being soft its about who is the better player.
legoat james that’s why you soft
@@rolladice1324 stop that nonsense. Being soft is definitely a negative. Basically means if you were in a more physical era you'd flop/get laid out all day long.
If you think LeBron would get physically bullied in any ERA you are delusional.
Shannon talking about Bill Russell is just priceless 🤣
Championships- bill Russell
Stats- wilt Chamberlain/Westbrook/Robertson
Skill- Kobe/hakeem
All around- lebron/bird
Goat- Jordan
Big man- Kareem
Passer: magic Johnson
Mvp: tie between Jordan or Kareem
Dominant center- shaq
Imo
D21Exclusive agreed
D21Exclusive skip thinks kawhi is better than Lebron cause he is better all round so if we're going by that Lebron is better than MJ?
best shooter curry
Dhruv Khandave I think Ray Allen is best 3pt shooter but that's just me.
Idk about magic as best passer I'd put lebron there but I respect everything else except Goat as Jordan bcuz magic should be there
"Chris childs gave hime that 3 piece extra crispy" 😂😂😂💯
With no sides 😂😂😂
"On command"😭
TayBiz TV that man said with no sides I’m weak 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
LMAOOOO I died off this 😂🤣😆
Prayed for him right there on the court🤣😂
Skip's arguments were so weak he couldve done 10x better and he couldn't even respond to shannon's arguments skip did a dishonor in defending kobe smh so many other things he could've argued
kobes best game is better than your fav players best game
DJ 290 nope. Kobes 81 point game is NOT BETTER than Lebron James Boston Game 6. It's not better then Lebrons game 5 against Detroit. It's not better then Game 7 of 2013 NBA finals against the Spurs.
He failed to mention at 18 yes kobe only avg near 7 ppg but also way less minutes then lebron! So it stands to argue if he had more minutes like he did when lebron was 18 he'd obviously avg more. Lebron got more cuz the Cavs sucked n they automatically needed a star when he joined
He should've argued Kobe's scoring titles
taker300 the point is that kobe wasnt good enough to get more minutes.
Shannon Sharp and I are the same person😂😂😂.. he my favorite he's funny asf😂😂😂 "3 peice with no side"😂😂😂😂😂😂
LOL 0:23
I don't get the reference bruv, what happened
STJ _ look up chris childs kobe bryant fight
So in this argument people like to bring up LeBron losing in 6 games to Mavericks his first year in Miami but don’t say anything about Kobe getting swept by a team full of role players 🧹
Or how they got blown off the court in 5 games in the 04 Finals by Detroit.
Nathaniel Williams thank you
Isaiah Askew yeahhhhhh kobe didn't just go to 3 straight finals amd won 2 🤣🤣
Nathaniel Williams yeahhhhhh look at that detroit team tho he still had 3 rings compared to their little cute one
@@verceezy4329 My point is Skip brings up Lebrons 2011 Finals loss to the Mavericks and 2015 loss to the Spurs. But never brings up the Lakers lost to the Pistons in 04 with him Shaq, Malone and Payton. A superteam that no one points out. Kobe was the reason they lost those Finals. And that same Mavericks team swept him in 2011!!
Kobe Bryant having only 1 MVP is ludicrous.
CowboysFan404 Not really. Kobe was never really the best player in the league throughout his whole career except for maybe 2005-2007. Bron been the best in the league since about 2008
OptimisticMan Lebron leads Kobe in every statistical category including FMVP despite winning less finals 😂 nuff said. Lebron>Kobe
Kobe was robbed of those MVP's when Steve Nash won it
i Love it when lakers "fans" say that Kobe got robbed , even tho Shaq was the runner up for Nash's first MVP and kobe was not even top 3 on the second one. lmfao.
OptimisticMan the same mavs dat swept the lakers???🤔🤔🤔😂😂😂😂😂 know yo history before u talk shit😂😂😂😂
Skip didn't make any points on why Kobe is better than lebron. Just too interested in discrediting lebron. Im so glad shannon is gone from this clown.
Lebron obviously more athletically gifted and a better all around TEAM player. Kobe definitely a better defender, and has a much better mentality. At the end of the day you want the ball in MJ/Kobe hands over Lebron.
@Polkekeke Ok. And you'd still want the ball in Kobe's hands over LeBron. My point remains
@Polkekeke Bron has always had a Ray Allen or Kyrie Irving to bail him out. Kobe bailed out Shaq on their way to winning their first title when Shaq fouled out with 2+minutes to go and Kobe took over to secure the win. Kobe > Bron
@Polkekeke Go watch the 2011 NBA Finals and tell me again you want the ball in Brons hands
@Polkekeke Kobe has always been the better player. Bron is the better athlete. Longevity doesn't equate to being better, keep that in mind
Low-key that 2011 Finals was the best thing that could've happened to LeBron. Actually caused him to wake up. The next season, MVP, 1st team all NBA, 1st team all defense, Champion and Finals MVP while averaging 30, 8, and 6 in the playoffs and providing us with one of the greatest individual performances of all time
Still a huge strain on his legacy.
@@hennylo68 yea but on one side you have one of the worst finals performances ever. On the other you have the greatest finals performance ever(2016)
@@leultrainstinct406 That was not the greatest finals performance ever, stop it.
@@hennylo68 then what was?
@@hennylo68 30/11/9
3 piece extra crispy😂😂 skip lost so bad
What does that even mean, lol?
Joseph Shields someone punch Jordan. Gave him a 3 piece combo with some butter biscuits
When Skip said “Well in combination” I knew Shannon was goin to lose it and say sum 🔥 😭😭😭💀
"The man hit em wit a 3 piece and he didnt respond"
Come out with a Russel shoe "champ man !" I'm freaking done lol
That one took me out
It’s not even funny
@@BrunO-on6vw salty
This is the absolute and most dominant example of SHANNON just demolishing Skip.....
Shannon should use this as his highlight reel...
If this was a football game... It would be 56-7..
If it was a boxing match...
THEY WOULDA STOPPED IT.
Skip is reduced to referencing TV COMMERCIALS!! LMAO..
EXACTLY!
Lol exactly
The ability of Skip arguing does not = the fact that Kobe > LeBron.
As shown in this year exit of my Lakers with LeBron. Even with AD man still can't win it. And if you are arguing injuries let me remind you that Kobe won it with having a 1.5 injury per year avarage in the games he played during his 7 finals that he won 5 of. The only thing LeBron has on Kobe is the fact that he has the top 0.0001% of body perfection. LeBron is blessed with pinical of human physical genetics. Man is unrivaled in the way his body is keeping up with him, Bryant's body gave up on him after 15 years and was a total of torn achilies/torn sholder/knee surgery x3 and 3 broken fingers in the last 5 years of his pro carear.
@@NikolasThane that don’t even make sense what you’re saying! Lol
@@kingralo5954 It's "doesn't".
Guess is should have simplified it for you. Bron has good body no injury
Kobe had bad body plenty injury
Kobe won more with less
Bron won less with more
Simple enough for you ?
Skips wife hello skip what a beautiful day
Skips wife: Skip?
Skip "....."
Skips wife: skip what happened?
Skip: ray Allen hit the clutches shot in NBA HISTORY YOU KNOW IT AND I KNOW IT HE SAVED LEBRONS LEGACY
Stephen Conn you might be on to something...probably a real conversation...or "the chosen one became the frozen one", "got blown of the court by a record's finals margin"...
Irving Campos Lugo KEYS LMAO
Irving Campos Lugo KEYSI Here's the Thang, skeeeiip.
Stephen Conn facts
3 piece extra crispy lol
Detroit 7Milee "ON COMMAND!" 😂😂😂
LMAO
Detroit 7Milee WITH NO SIDES! 😂😂
Lmao, I've mentioned that so many times in this debate with Kobe's dedicated fans!
Kobe could never fight. He always tried to act hard. He grew up in Italy! Reggie Miller choked him before
They should compare KD to Kobe (great scorers) & LeBron to Magic Johnson (playmakers)....
Sam M yeah becsuse Kobe and KD are both not top 10 players while Lebron and Magic are..
Knicks 4 Life Kobe is top ten lol. Lebron not top five.
Knicks 4 Life both Lebron and Kobe high tens
Naieazy97 lebron is definitely top 5
even sean livingston could score 20+ during a finals game on the warriors
Shannon is paid off by Clutch lmao he literally used to have Kobe #2 behind MJ now it’s just LeBron LeBron LeBron 💀
Whoever can tell me how kobe is better than LeBron without bringing championships and I will give you 100 dollars
Shannon aint lyin though. Aint nobody puttin hands on BronBron.
only cuz they know they'll get suspended for the entire season
Jesus Christ And they know a fight against 6”9 250lb athletic freak is not a good idea.
John Don 2000 WCF GAME 6 (PORTLAND)
(21 year old Kobe) 33 points 6assist 2 rebounds 4STL 3BLK 12-24FGM 6-9 3pointers
Shaq 17 points 11 rebounds 5assist 0blk 0stl 7-17FGM 3-13FTA 3TO
________________________________
2000 WCF GAME 7 (PORTLAND)
(21 year old Kobe)25 points 11 rebounds 7 assists 4BLK 2TO
(Prime Shaq)18 points 9 rebounds 6 assist 1BLK 4TO 5-9FGM
Kobe was the reason Shaq went to the finals in 2000
John Don 2007 FINALS GAME 1 SPURS
LeBron 14 points 7 rebounds 4 assist 1STL 1BLK 6TO 4-16FGM
Duncan 24 points 13rebounds 1 assist 2STL 5BLK 2TO 10-17FGM
John Don 2001 WCF GAME 1 SPURS
Kobe 45 points 10 rebounds 3 assist 1stl 1blk 19-35FGM
Shaq 28 points 11 rebounds 2assist
____________________________
2001 WCF GAME 2 SPURS
Kobe 28 points 7 rebounds 6assist 2stl 1blk 2TO 11-24FGM
Shaq 19 points 14 rebounds 4assist 4TO 8-21FGM
____________________________________
2001 WCF GAME 3 SPURS
Kobe 36 points 9 rebounds 8 assist 1STL 14-27FGM
Shaq 35 points 17 rebounds 3 assist 4TO
___________________________
2001 WCF FINALS GAME 4 (SWEEP)
Kobe 24 points 11 assist 2STL 1BLK 2TO 10-19FGM
Kobe was only 22
ON COMMAND!!
Man, in retrospect, Shannon demolished Skip in this debate. It really exposes his lack of deduction skills
but skip was there and never saw anything like it
3 piece extra crispy 💀💀 legendary
what it mean? when it happened
Kobe got robbed for mvps cmon now
Ok then Lebron got robbed for DPOTY in 2014 and 2010
Lebron also got robbed for fmvp in 2018
You can't expect these dumb millennials to possibly fathom that contention bro.
you need to clarify what MVP you're talking? Regular MVP, FMVP? becauae sharp and skip talking about final MVP.. what year kobe robbed his FMVP? LMFAO!
I felt the same way...and I have a crazy conspiracy theory that goes with it.
Both of them are cherry picking. LeShanon just rattles off a bunch of stats, and Skeeeiup only considers clutch/mamba mentality.
Greatness CANNOT be measured by any metrics.
If you say rings, Bill Russell is GOAT
stats, Wilt is GOAT
mix of both, MJ or Kareem is GOAT
The better player is what YOU as a viewer perceive. There are many aspects of basketball (or any sport) that cannot be measured.
Wow a sensible comment on UA-cam, I’m astonished.
Stats is lebron
Hbs 21 i like Bron but Stats are Wilt. The NBA record book is basically his biography.
Lmao so this is psychology now eh? Different perspectives...
u got a point
MJ then Kobe, that is the Goat debate
“Bless his heart lord” 😭
I seen this comment as I heard it😂
Russell 11 rings 🐐 G.O.A.T #ChampMan 🤣😂
Julie was playing against 5 foot white dudes lol
who cares please do your research before commenting.
@@Talkinsports91 was playing against 5ft white dudes? Last I checked Russell and the Celtics eliminated Wilt Chamberlain teams 3 times in the East and once in the finals when he went to LA. You have zero knowledge of basketball history.
Champ man! Champ man! Yeah that's mee!! Lol
Lol bronsexual don't know that bill russell said MJ is the greatest,so your argument is plain thrash.
U WANT ME ON THIS CHAIR! U NEED ME IN THIS CHAIR!! 🤣🤣😂😂
"A few good men" line by Jack Nicholson! You want me on that wall you need me on that wall LOL!!
That is why jordan likes kobe cause they both know how to lose in the 1st round!! 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah but at least mike the made every year on the bulls lebron didnt on the cavs and Lakers
@@donnyjones6717 didn’t Jordan play for the wizards and miss the playoffs 🤨🧐
@@donnyjones6717 Lebron was injured missed 20* games with lakers, Lebrons cavs teams were garbage his first 8 seasons especially
...well about that...
This didn’t age well
THANK YOU SHANNON..... 11>6
Russell Is The Goat By Y’all Logic
LéSane There was like 8 teams back in the day
Skip is pathetic he keeps changing the subject.
Shanon shut skip down!!
Gagndip Singh I didn't see a point where he shut skip down his Shaq point doesn't make sense because LeBron had dwade and Chris Bosh
A Strong HAHAHAHAHAHA! Really? Comparing Shaq to Dwayne wade? And Chris bosh?? Come on man... Shaq literally had multiple playoff series he averaged 33/13/3/3 on over 60%!!!! Give Lebron that and he would never lose
Al Bundy F.B.Z. who else the Lakers have besides Shaq and kobe....LeBron dwade and Bosh together are as good as Shaq and kobe
Al Bundy F.B.Z. and dwade was the finals mvp when Shaq was on the heat
A Strong not it's not equal. Shaq had multiple finals games where he had 40/20/5 HE WAS UNSTOPPABLE LITERALLY! Lebron has never played with a top 15 player ever. D wade isn't top 15 ever. At least not yet. Probably more top 20. Shaq is top 10. Chris bosh might not even be a top 50 player of all time. A young Lebron with a prime Shaq like the situation Kobe had WOULD DEFINITELY win more then 3 championships. Mostly because Lebron is like a advanced and better magic Johnson Shaq would love playing with him more then a ball dominant shooting guard.
Rest In Peace Kobe 🙏🏽
"He can't lose cause he can't get their!" LMFAO so true
Diss Gummy how when Kobe went 4 times straight..with Shaq n lost 1..3 straight with Paul n lost 1..that's a lie.. LeBron couldn't get there..fuckn loser
put those lebron teams in the west and he doesn't get out of the first round. idiot
LOL put Lebon with Shaq in the west and he goes every year like he does now.
@@JohnSmith-ro8hk put Lebron on a team in the west at that time and I bet he has 6 rings AT LEAST
@@BlkHueHef if them PEDS are available 😂
Dear Shannon,
If rings determines greatness, then Matt Dellavedova is better than Charles Barkley.
Sincerely,
Reason and logic
Fisher hit shot to save Kobe and Robert did too common Skip
YES BUT KOBE STILL WON BACK 2 BACK TITLES WITH PAU GASOL AS THE SECOND BEST PLAYER IN THE WEST HE WAS WAITING FOR LEBRON IN THE FINALS BUT HE COULDN'T GET PAST THE MAGIC AND THE LAKERS BEAT THEM IN THE FINALS SO SORRY BRONSEXUAL!!!
Ray Allen hit the shot in the finals to save LeBron lol!
Antwan Toller only for lebron to go on to dominate the next game. Let’s not forget the 16 pts to bring them back
Mario Adonis buddy that wasnt last second that was a 3 around 4th quarter. Lebron actually got saved by allen and kyrie at the end.
Artin Isagulyan how did Kyrie save him if the game was tied. It’s not like if Kyrie missed warriors win
Skip conveniently omitted that Kobe was swept by the Mavs in 2011 - the year LeBron went to the finals in his first year with the Heat. So I guess Kobe didn’t live up to his end of the bargain either.
My Mavs did all that!
Kobe’s performance in the 2004 finals was far worse than Lebrons in 2011
Kobe had a sprained ankle in the 2011 playoffs. Still played but struggled
Thank you for remind us the truth about that
@@darrellhardy90 No excuses he played all 4 games right? Why play too lose??? & What about 2012? whhat happened
YOU WANT ME ON THIS CHAIR!
YOU NEED ME ON THIS CHAIR!!
"Hit him with a 3 piece and didnt respond" 🤣🤣🤣
Haven't watched the video yet but let me guess skips bring up Dallas and Ray Allen shot.
Yup
Spot on 😂
Barbecue Chicken u obviously did watch it
Christine Graham lol no he brings up that every time they talk about Lebron
LeBron was 16-6 vs Kobe H2H. LBJ averaged more pts, rebounds, assists, blocks and steals in those games too. What are we really talking about?
Oh and Kobe was damn near a Jordan clone so that makes the Jordan/LeBron debate look silly too.
RIP Bean 😢
I swear skip bayless is high
what happened when Kobe played Utah in the finals with Shaq on his team and shot 3 air balls and lost?? but that's who Skip want with the ball at the end of games..side note: Kobe last second field goal percentage is WORSE then LeBron
Princess Lamari Mitchell 1998? If you cherry picking like that then the 2011 lebron is the player you think is better than Jordan? Ok
D21Exclusive CHERRY PICKING???? so what part of LeBron career yall cherry pick??? I guess Jordan getting swept 3-0 in the first round is cherry picking??
Kobe was like 18 and that was his biggest moment of his career atm , it was uphill since then.
Aden Jones actually groupie boy Kobe was 20..and his career was not all uphill from there..actually that was in the playoffs and Kobe had seasons after that where he didn't even make the playoffs..unlike LeBron who since he first made it in the playoffs his teams made them every season since...
Haha bro Kobe was like 17 or 18 at the time and nobody else had the guts to take the shots. Yet you have LeBron against the mavs, a superteam vs a team with one superstar, and ended up making only 8 pts in the last game, and LOST!! plus in his PRIME. haha boi ur dumb
Shannon got me in tears!! freakin hilarious..prayed for him right there on the court lmao!!
I died bruuu 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣