I always thought to myself "if you mastered every character in the game mokujin could theoretically wipe the floors with most players given enough knowledge, but seeing this makes me suprised as this is probably one of the few nearly unplayable characters in Tekken history along with Gun-Jack and Dr.Bosconovitch.
Far from unplayable.. Just in theory, the most difficult character in the game to play. Not only do you have to learn every character in the game if you want the full potential of Mokujin to be reached, but you have to learn them again due Mokujin’s fixed height and reach. So any character can played, just that you should never expect to play them 100% like what is being copied.
@@AshZucchini8168 Well that was what they were going for in most of the post, but at the end they did also mention two other characters so it’s technically not a True Ogre specific comment anymore with their inclusion since Mokujin can also in fact mimic the other two as well. If they are considered unplayable on their own, then I would imagine it not being much better when Mokujin mimics them.
@@MGrey-qb5xz They often base it on "popularity" but what is that popularity based on? Player count, fan art, and cosplay usually. A massive amount of the charm of Tekken is fighting the weird characters, and I might never play Roger, Alex, Ogre, Mokujin, etc, but they are cool to see in Tekken, and cool to fight against. I'd still buy character DLC anyway.
@@AgnopesMukojin is the answer. A good time because you never really care about whose move set you get. Just if you can play basic Tekken well or get that busted character (Dragunov T8).
@@Agnopes idc, they as in the devs say stupid nonsense like tag 2 almost killed the series like wtf, tag 2 was internationally popular and if you even slightly liked fighter you owned it especially here in the east. You wanna talk killing the series, blame 6, that game was garbage and played like garbage too which tag 2 fixed
Fixing Mokujin: 1. Adding chains on his arm to immitate True Ogre's Snakes 2. Make those chains follow the same animations as T Ogre's snakes. 3. Add the hit boxes to both his tail (toggle son moves that use it) and the Chains
Probably one of the reasons Mokujin never came back. As the cast gets more diverse with size differences and movesets, it's probably getting a lot trickier to have a Mokukin character where stuff like this doesn't happen.
They should have given him Vines all over his arm instead of snakes. that would have made perfect sense AND looked so cool. i mean, they can give him wooden wings but not Vines?!
As a Tekken cheater who breakdown the game for many years, i can say that the tail is only a visual element. The hitbox is always fixed and attached to the lower body
I think it would change the character's idea too much, Mokujin is basically random select, the character, like Eleven in SFV. Having it only copy the enemy character would only be an "avoid bad matchups" character, cause you would have it always be mirror matches. Maybe the oponent will be better than you cause they're playing their main, but idk, I i think it would end up just not being as fun.
Glad I found your channel, good taste in games T5DR has online working on RPCS3 now so I've been reliving the old Tekken games, time to revisit Tag 2 I think
ive only played tekken 7 8 and one game on PSP so I had very little playtime with mokujin being only on PSP but I absolutely loved him. even if ogre mokujin was really bad id love getting him just for the wings and tail.
I don’t understand this. He can copy Jack’s extendable arms but not this one’s? Just do the same as you did with Jack (having his fist on a chain) and make it permanent.
Tag twoooooooo. Great Tekken or *Greatest* Tekken? They gotta rerelease it on modern platforms; I would buy it on immediate timing, frame 0. Also interesting: MokuDrag -- apparently he's got combos that regular Drag can't do?
Mokujin should come back. All they gotta do is add the wood textue over the dummy i training mode and have that dummy randomize what character it is. I mean, that's basically what Mokujin is. XD But yes, brng back Mokujin. I'd love to see Mokujin mimic Devil Kazuya o even better, Angel Jin at some random chance.
Love seeing content surrounding other tekken games, it can often feel like the newest tekken is the only tekken, and with tekken 8 not really being my favorite tekken, sucks to see it being the only tekken mentioned (i mean rightfully so its still objectively the best tekken game, but from a gameplay standpoint i heavily prefer the older titles)
Treating mokijun as a clone character like kuma/panda make you think it's the same character but its not. Rather treat it as a unique character that happens to have that same moves.
Wait, Mokujin actually copies True Ogre in this game? He definitely doesn't copy him in Tag 1. I don't recall ever seeing him copy true ogre in tag 2 when I used to play it.
A way fix Mokujin's model problems is some story tweaking to his character. Give the 2000-year old tree some sort of mutation so it can change in size to adapt to the character he's copying. Make him grow bigger when he's copying Kuma, or mutate his arms when he copies Jack.
You wonder why they didn't just like, give mokujin a vine on the arm or something
Chains
@@liu3chan Oh god the chains ARE just hanging there doing nothing when they could be helping his moveset. Its Zombie Liu Kang all over again!
THATS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING!!!
"WHY DIDNT THEY HAVE HIS ARM HELD BY ROPE OR SOMETHING"
He's already go chains
What's wrong with zombie kiu kang?
He should have right arm made out of his chains to mimic those snakes.
Or Vines from a plant, or Roots.
Fix Mokujin, respectable gentleman
Rectify The Wooden Man, my historically enslaved race friend.
I remember he used to get better combos when he copies drag
The f3 loops
I always thought to myself "if you mastered every character in the game mokujin could theoretically wipe the floors with most players given enough knowledge, but seeing this makes me suprised as this is probably one of the few nearly unplayable characters in Tekken history along with Gun-Jack and Dr.Bosconovitch.
Far from unplayable.. Just in theory, the most difficult character in the game to play. Not only do you have to learn every character in the game if you want the full potential of Mokujin to be reached, but you have to learn them again due Mokujin’s fixed height and reach. So any character can played, just that you should never expect to play them 100% like what is being copied.
I think you meant prototype Jack, not gunjack
@@imjay2118In what game though?
@@jinyagami1134 I don’t think OP meant Mokujin as a whole, I think they meant “Mokujin when he copies True Ogre specifically”
@@AshZucchini8168 Well that was what they were going for in most of the post, but at the end they did also mention two other characters so it’s technically not a True Ogre specific comment anymore with their inclusion since Mokujin can also in fact mimic the other two as well. If they are considered unplayable on their own, then I would imagine it not being much better when Mokujin mimics them.
I still hope mokujin comes back on tk8 its such a iconic character
Tekken 8 is run by cringe devs, doubt they understand the humour
@@MGrey-qb5xz They often base it on "popularity" but what is that popularity based on? Player count, fan art, and cosplay usually. A massive amount of the charm of Tekken is fighting the weird characters, and I might never play Roger, Alex, Ogre, Mokujin, etc, but they are cool to see in Tekken, and cool to fight against. I'd still buy character DLC anyway.
@@AgnopesMukojin is the answer. A good time because you never really care about whose move set you get. Just if you can play basic Tekken well or get that busted character (Dragunov T8).
@@Agnopes there is no fucking way its based on popularity cause we got lidia as like dlc 2
@@Agnopes idc, they as in the devs say stupid nonsense like tag 2 almost killed the series like wtf, tag 2 was internationally popular and if you even slightly liked fighter you owned it especially here in the east. You wanna talk killing the series, blame 6, that game was garbage and played like garbage too which tag 2 fixed
Chat it's so ogre
Chat, we are so Jack
Fixing Mokujin:
1. Adding chains on his arm to immitate True Ogre's Snakes
2. Make those chains follow the same animations as T Ogre's snakes.
3. Add the hit boxes to both his tail (toggle son moves that use it) and the Chains
1:40 sorry man, you had some lint on you.
Lol
i live for mokujin slop
Who gives the best head
Mokujin or Mokujin
Mokujin, don't let this bring you down, you're beautiful
Preposterous quality for how small the channel. Hope to see more from this guy.
Isnt Mokujin supposed to be awakened when evil is walking around the planet? Did Namco forget about this?
Well, he also got kids and a wife.
mokujin: this is fine
@@Jetanium Marshall Law didn't get back into the game until Forrest was old enough for college.
For some reason it's never devil Kazuya, in 8, Azazel is immediately killed after being summoned so Moku might have awakened briefly.
Do you think all the other characters just stop existing when they're not on the roster?
1:35 insert reverb fart sfx here
wish mokujin comes back into tekken 8
WE LOVE MOKUJIN #Mokujin4tekken8
BEST CHARACTER BEST GAME MOKUJIN
this is so incredibly niche, I love it! Thanks for this video. I didn't know that I wanted to know about this lmao.
I want Mokujin so bad in Tekken 8... I want him SO BAD
Probably one of the reasons Mokujin never came back. As the cast gets more diverse with size differences and movesets, it's probably getting a lot trickier to have a Mokukin character where stuff like this doesn't happen.
I'd argue it's less about character sizes and more them not wanting to work around dlc
Mokujin for tekken 8 would be sickk!!!
The last character reveal
wow! i had NO fcking idea!
Mokujin is 70% my go 2 for fun matches
They should have given him Vines all over his arm instead of snakes. that would have made perfect sense AND looked so cool. i mean, they can give him wooden wings but not Vines?!
Chains
keep making tekken videos PLEASEEE
mokujin my beloved
As a Tekken cheater who breakdown the game for many years, i can say that the tail is only a visual element. The hitbox is always fixed and attached to the lower body
I dont even like playing tekken so im glad/apalled the algorithm sent me this. Fun video.
Tag 2 video? I GOTTA like
I'd ask for us to be able to select Mokujin and get either a random character or whatever character the enemy is using, but that might be a bit much?
I think it would change the character's idea too much, Mokujin is basically random select, the character, like Eleven in SFV.
Having it only copy the enemy character would only be an "avoid bad matchups" character, cause you would have it always be mirror matches.
Maybe the oponent will be better than you cause they're playing their main, but idk, I i think it would end up just not being as fun.
i love Mokujim, jank and all. he's my saibamen of tekken
"... oh no..." LOL
Why doesn’t he just use some chains as the snakes is what I wonder
I think vines would fit better
fix mokujin, person of extra melanin content
Is that how kids say the n word
lets see this man win a tournament lol. Ogre Mokujin FTW
Plz make more mokujin content
Glad I found your channel, good taste in games
T5DR has online working on RPCS3 now so I've been reliving the old Tekken games, time to revisit Tag 2 I think
Is there a proper ranked mode for DR on RPCS3 or is it just fighting random people?
@@shaghilathar3588 It has a ranked system yeah
I love this little wood man
Yo another man of impeccable taste. They're afraid of us having mokujin again
subscribed because i really want to play mokujin. I started playing with tekken 7 ;( I really hope they bring him back in tekken 8 too
ive only played tekken 7 8 and one game on PSP so I had very little playtime with mokujin being only on PSP but I absolutely loved him. even if ogre mokujin was really bad id love getting him just for the wings and tail.
3 words: nerf devil jin
bro is feeling up the other guy without the snakes
fact. tekken needs to fix this lol
I miss Mokujin, I also like it when Mokujin is Kuma, very long reach, especially the legs..
1:36 that is so freaky
I don’t understand this. He can copy Jack’s extendable arms but not this one’s? Just do the same as you did with Jack (having his fist on a chain) and make it permanent.
Tag twoooooooo. Great Tekken or *Greatest* Tekken? They gotta rerelease it on modern platforms; I would buy it on immediate timing, frame 0.
Also interesting: MokuDrag -- apparently he's got combos that regular Drag can't do?
Mokujin gang telekinesis looks sick
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1:34 GAME OGRE MAN! GAME OGRE!!!
Im late but i wanna see the bottom 5 chars now as their own vids
Why not give him chains? ⛓️ they’re already there!
Mokujin should come back. All they gotta do is add the wood textue over the dummy i training mode and have that dummy randomize what character it is. I mean, that's basically what Mokujin is. XD
But yes, brng back Mokujin. I'd love to see Mokujin mimic Devil Kazuya o even better, Angel Jin at some random chance.
A side note, i just realized how cool and menacing T.Ogre's neutral stance is. Mokujin copying it emphasizes it. Thats so sick ngl
please make a video on the remaining characters that suck with mokujin im begging you
Is side-step supposed to be almost useless to avoid attacks?
I get hit by so many straight shots
I clicked on this video cause that wooden guy looks like the robot used by vanoss in the old gmod days lol idk why ive done this.
Remake for pc ttt2!
Love seeing content surrounding other tekken games, it can often feel like the newest tekken is the only tekken, and with tekken 8 not really being my favorite tekken, sucks to see it being the only tekken mentioned (i mean rightfully so its still objectively the best tekken game, but from a gameplay standpoint i heavily prefer the older titles)
it's still pure insanity to me, to have managed to implement True Oger, without making him straight up broken.
Treating mokijun as a clone character like kuma/panda make you think it's the same character but its not. Rather treat it as a unique character that happens to have that same moves.
mokujin for tekken 8 please
imagine reaching GOD using MOKUJIN
i love copy characters! Mokujin is so fun!
I hate the Waining Moin animation. It doesn’t fit this big monster. He should’ve chosen that guy out, use his big arms to lift him off the ground.
Moon*
These are some pretty inexcusable oversights.
Moku-Gang
Why did bro caress him like that😭
Tekken 3 mokujin have the same problem?
Wait, Mokujin actually copies True Ogre in this game? He definitely doesn't copy him in Tag 1. I don't recall ever seeing him copy true ogre in tag 2 when I used to play it.
is this on the final game?????
I didn't even know he can copy
Did namco Forgot to add a hitbox?
A way fix Mokujin's model problems is some story tweaking to his character. Give the 2000-year old tree some sort of mutation so it can change in size to adapt to the character he's copying. Make him grow bigger when he's copying Kuma, or mutate his arms when he copies Jack.
tekken 8 not having mokujin at release is weak
1:36 what is bro doing 💀
So 1/56 to be S tier or F tier
Tekken 7 and tekken 8 He disappeared
They fit my fat head better also are lower
In all fairness to Moku(P)Jack, PJack already sucks
How does Mokujin copy people? I've never played a single Tekken game.
...ya know, I think I understand why Mokujin didn't come back in 7. Imagine having to program all new moves with him for every DLC character.
Do you guys understand how long it would take to make a video like this? If you know you know
💀💀💀
Tekken 8 so bad we revisiting other games 😢
Tekken 3 mokujin have the same problem?