Why I’m Done With Bootlegs!
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I bought a bootleg of the Tom Hanks film Greyhound because it still hasn't had an official release, the picture quality is stunning and the sound is too, it was £12 and ive watched it four times already, if it had an official release i would have purchased it that way. I don't regret buying it.
That’s one I hope will get an official release sometime. I never bought a bootleg as it couldnt match the 4k and Atmos on AppleTV
Never supported bootleg Blus, and honestly glad to see it's a market that will crash now. Happy that these are doing so well, and great to see people who've supported the bootlegs are also supporting the real product!
Yeah Dave I always said that if official releases were released my bootlegs would go straight into the bin, I’ve heard others say the same too which is good news.
I don't own any bootlegs and don't plan on getting any but I can completely see your reasoning.
I think the biggest fear is Disney+ could at anytime delist a series/film on a whim, I will 100% put money on them dropping Prey at some point even if its just for a limited time.
So physical media may be dying but it'll never fully die for that reason.
I can’t see Disney ever removing their SW and MCU shows from the platform. Then again we said they’d never release the shows on physical so what do we know lol
@@BigPauly Same but wouldn't bet against it, I remember the good old days of the 'Disney Vault'.
Could quite easily seem them 'locking' away She-Hulk or Book of Boba Fett after it's been on a few years so people forget how bad they are for their eventual return 🤷♂️
I've never bought a bootleg and don't plan on doing so, but I must admit Disney's stance on physical media in particular has meant that it has crossed my mind in recent months...
Like most of us here, I'm a huge fan of the Marvel & Star Wars shows so when I saw that Disney were releasing the Mandalorian etc. on Blu-Ray I knew I'd be picking them up! My issue with streaming is that the quality compared to a Blu-Ray or 4K Blu-Ray is often far far inferior and the experience isn't necessarily the best and/or in some cases even what the creators intend it to be. A 4K Netflix/Disney+ stream for example doesn't look anywhere near as good as it does on even a standard 1080p Blu-Ray (at least, that's how I feel anyway) so until streaming becomes comparable or better to physical media, I'll be sticking to my disc-based collection. 😄
Then there's the whole "you don't own it" argument which is a very true problem. If you stop paying for these services, you lose all the content. When I pay for my Blu-Ray, Disney aren't going to come round my house and take it away from me in a month's time! Physical media means I can go on to show my kids, grandkids etc. in many years time what I was watching whilst I was growing up without having to pay for a service which by that point may not even be a thing. Not to mention, paying for all these different services is getting expensive! About £60 a month contributes to all the streaming services I'd use! It's getting a bit unsustainable now! As well, like some platforms have already been doing, they can pull the plug whenever they want and stop you viewing certain content or they may even change it to be more politically correct etc. if the content is deemed too "controversial" in the future. 🤔
Physical media is not only the highest quality form of the content that is available to consumers, but it's a great way to preserve content (no matter what it is) for future generations. A good example is the 1966 World Cup Final. The original colour film was lost in the 60s, meaning the B&W footage was the only readily available format people could use! It's only in the last 5 years or so that technology has allowed us to restore the B&W footage and experience a huge piece of British History just how some of our ancestors did all those years ago. (That Blu-Ray is now in my collection!) That colour version of the game will always be available to people for generations to come now. 😄
Finally, I understand why bootlegs exist because one of the most annoying things about physical media is when companies don't release all of a series/film series. I have many Blu-Rays where the company behind it stopped physical media releases of a series and it drives me insane! (Some examples: Lost In Space (Netflix Version), Mars (Nat Geo) and currently the Mandalorian (S1 & S2)). There's no guarantee that Disney will release all their shows & films on physical media so you may be left with a partial collection, or in some cases, no release at all. Therefore, I respect your decision in the past to buy bootlegs because in my eyes, "piracy" over the last 15 years or so has changed slightly from being all about getting free content to actually being more about content preservation for the future.
If companies make it easy for you to purchase their content for yourselves then I'd always choose that option to support them! After all, the content wouldn't exist without them & their creative minds! But, if a company makes it unnecessarily expensive or difficult to access their content, or don't release their content in a physical format for consumers in an acceptable time frame after release, then I think that's on them for missing a trick when it comes to physical media. (Rant over! 😂)
Great video Paul! Been loving the content recently! Looking forward to seeing what you've got in store for the year to come! 😀
Thanks for your very detailed explanation with many points I agree with.
Streaming is getting expensive if you want the best quality, I currently pay £17.99 just for Netflix. We’re kinda locked into subscribing to them. If i cancelled my subscription to Disney+ I’d no longer be able to watch the Star Wars or Marvel shows and i think I’d rather pay the extra and watch them in the best streaming quality. The only time I’ve found a streaming movie looked better than the 4k disc was the ‘enhanced IMAX’ MCU versions I was blown away by then quality.
I was also annoyed they never released the rest of Lost in Space on Blu-ray but sometimes I try to look outside the UK as it’s possible our counties have released seasons that we don’t have. Take for instance the series Glee, I think the UK stopped at season 4 where as Japan releases the other seasons, even though they’re quite expensive.
I hope Disney continue releasing their shows on disc but for some shows I think they’re waiting for them to conclude before releasing complete boxsets for shows such as Cobra Kai and Stranger Things.
Never been seduced by these bootlegs can’t see the point as you rightly said they aren’t of the quality that the streaming service offers. You could say I saved my £100 and bought the studio releases.
never purchased a bootleg never will
Meh
@@MagpieMovies no one asked you Saudi fc
Good, about time Paul.
I don't own any bootlegs, never have and never will. Genuine products only.
Well done Paul. You're right, there's no point. The shows are in 4K DV on Disney plus, so why just have a HD version? I don't think Disney are gonna release everything on physical media. I doubt She Hulk will get a release, maybe some of the Star Wars shows won't either. But if they're selling, you never know.
Exactly, you never know. After all we all said they’d never release Mandalorian on disc but here we are so anything’s possible
They are releasing Andor and Obi Wan in the Summer in 4K Steelbooks and season 3 of Mando is coming later in the year in 4K Steelbook form
Typically I don't buy many bootlegs myself but if I know a film won't get a true release then perhaps. To date however the only one I own that's technically a bootleg is Song of the South.
Yeah that seems to be a very popular title, I may be wrong but I think there is an official blu-ray release as part of the Disney club in America
Only “bootleg” I’ve purchased is the Harmy despecialised Star Wars trilogy. Cause they are significantly better than the Disney versions. Other than that. Nope buy from the studio. Helps out the industry
Hi BP happy new year . I never buy blu ray boot legs I have a bit of a collection about 3000 now I don't stream still catching up with movies that don't get much advertisment . All the very best
Even though some of us have big physical collections we can safely say we’ll always have something on the shelf to watch
I Only Own 1 Disney+ Bootleg And It's Obi-Wan Kenobi And Was Going To Get Others But Like U Said BigPauly I'm Just Going To Buy The Official Physical Media Releases Of Disney+ Stuff When Disney Decides To Release More Of Them
Great video and I totally get where you are coming from with regards to bootleg physical media.
I bought the complete first season of Wednesday on blu ray bootleg only to hear that in March this year we are getting an official release of Wednesday season 1 on blu ray on 25th March 2024.
Never thought that Netflix would ever release this but now I think like you what is the point, especially when it now gets released,
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Wednesday is a co-production with Warner Bros. Typically, co-productions with studios get physical releases. WB, Universal, and Paramount have been very good with putting their streaming content onto disc :)
Yeah there’s tons of shows I would never thought would get disc releases. Dazzler media are even releasing some of the AppleTV series on disc including For All Mankind, See and The Morning Show
How about its because they are illegal?? 😂😂
Yes, that seems to be forgotten these days!!
It's odd that people are selling them on e-bay and e-bay are allowing it and the studios do nothing.
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@@drew_2879 perfectly sums up your comment 👌
And the ones where that issue is a little sticky? Song of the South had a limited VHS run in the UK and those go for hundreds now & it could be argued the copy I have isn't entirely legit but the source it came from, technically is, because in Japan the film became public domain so the laser disc version was ripped to the one I have. If a film is never going to be released properly (see The Pagemaster, Fright Night II) then what's the other option for collectors?
And it's not like most collectors are sharing them around, it's for one person to their personal collection, I don't see the harm in that myself.
I’ll admit I do own maybe 4 bootlegs. I have Spice World because the US doesn’t have a legit Blu Ray and I can’t find a DVD copy anywhere without paying up the wazoo. I own 3 of the Taylor Swift concerts because they aren’t available in stores on Physical media. Now when the Eras tour does hit actual Physical Media I will gladly bin the bootleg
I saw your posts about the Taylor Swift bootlegs and have to admit they did look very professional so if that’s what makes you happy then that’s entirely your decision. BTW I have seen a DVD of Spice World in a charity shop here a few months ago
I'm still waiting for offical release of Stranger Things and not seen it yet as I don't get Netflix and not interested in bootlegs either.great video matey
The first 2 seasons were released on Blu-ray and 4k in America. I think they’ll probably release a complete box set after the final season
Never been into bootlegs, even back in the VHS days. I'm sure the quality is better now but ultimately it's theft and it's diverting money from the studios and the creatives and you just don't get the bells and whistles you get with legitimate releases. Basically, if it isn't out officially I don't own it.
It’s one thing if you knowingly buy a Bootleg but when Covid hit there has been allot of bootleg’s coming from China especially on DVD especially tv series where they sell it as if it were a official release and they over compress to get everything on a single disc, You can tell by the GB size. An official release on dvd is 7gb and the pirated ones are 4 GB and the problem is the artwork and disk look very professional and hard to tell the difference. The other giveaway is when eBay is listing stuff that has not been released by the studio yet.
Yes I bought season 3 of Yellowstone last year, it came sealed and with a slipcover but then I found out the discs were bootlegs, I must say the picture and sound quality were excellent though
Good point well made Paul, I have around a dozen bootlegs but won’t be getting any more, apart from Togo which I have watched a couple of times, I’ve not watched any of them since I bought them. Like you said, they are a back up option. 👍😃👍
I've been buying a few 3D bootlegs which are not available to buy officially in the UK , Yes the Japanese imports are available but are very expensive. If they released 3D films officially I would always buy the original at reasonable retail prices. It would be nice to see Disney continue to release official titles , but ultimately they want subscribers, they aren't really interested in physical media anymore. At least people buying bootlegs tells the industry there is still a demand for physical copies of TV and film 👍
@@MattVs_Moviesgood points well made Matt, they should be putting out 3D titles, they convinced us to buy the television and players and then dumped the format, leaving us high and dry 🤬 it’s not that I’m against bootlegs, it’s that there not much (title wise that grabs my attention) I was tempted by Prey but in the end it came out. I’m keeping Togo though, that’s a lovely movie👍😃👍
It's a shame Disney and Netflix don't release lots of shows on blu ray.
They are focused on streaming. By not releasing it on physical, you won’t subscribe to their service.
I think they’ll come a time when people will get bored of streaming and go back to physical movies. The same boredom that turned people back to vinyl
I will happy take these from 😊
Haha unfortunately they’re in the bin now
I pre-ordered Mandalorian S1 & S2, Loki and Wanda Vision on 4K Steelbook because I have not seen any of the series (I don't do streaming). However, I have not opened them up as yet and in the event of a standard 4K release I would buy those and sell the steelbooks, despite the nice artwork. I terms of bootlegs, I have never been tempted. As you say in your video, the right people don't get the money and I want physical media to be produced for as long as possible and every sale helps. 🙂
There’s not much news about standard physical releases they may just stick with the steelbooks. Which for me is perfect as I love steelbooks, and the artwork on them is beautiful
Bootlegs have never been something I've jumped into. However, I've been tempted to hunt down a Willow one, seeing as I'm the only one who seemed to actually enjoy that show and Disney have removed it from existence! Really glad the MCU and Star Wars stuff is getting released though. Just hope they keep them up!
You’re not the only one who loved Willow mate I did too. Totally bummed we’re not getting another series too
Yes
The only boots I'm interested in getting and sticking with is the rest of the Marvel Netflix series, I can guarantee Disney won't complete that run.
We don’t know they won’t continue with the other releases. Remember everyone said there’s no chance in hell of Disney releasing physical copies of Mandalorian but look where we are. Not to mention Falcon and Winter Soldier has already been confirmed for this year.
Great Video Paul i don't like bootlegs but i prefer official releases because you get different artwork design on each format DVD, Blu-Ray or 4K but with official releases you get slipcovers and steelbooks editions and collectors edition box sets anyway i ordered loki season 1 steelbook and i will get WandaVision steelbook next month
Gd video paul😅😅😅
while I've gotten quite irritated to find out that 4 of the TV series sets on DVD I bought on eBay were cheap knock-offs, some argue that pirating from certain companies (e.g. Nintendo) is a moral obligation, it could be argued that bootlegging D+ shows would also be morally correct.
Run away the old bill are after them bootlegs
Haha maybe they want them for their collections
great video i would get a Bootleg of a item i wanted that is not got a release date of any type and when it does come out i get bin it then
I bought one of Andor from eBay because I don't have Disney+ and have no intention of getting it.
Hope your gonna stop people showing off they’re bootlegs in your Facebook group I mentioned this a couple of years ago. We should be supporting official releases only
That’s certainly being discussed among the Mods now Alan
@@BigPauly good call mr bowman 👍
😀haha at 140 years old🤣
Why didn't you think of this before? That your money wasn't going to these companies. And when Disney plus stops selling physical media. Will you then go back
If Disney does decide not to release all of the streaming series then I’m fine watching them in their best quality on D+
I’ve got Cobra Kai Season 4 & 5 bootlegs because they haven’t released them on Blu-ray only DVD even though Season 1-3 are on Blu-ray. If they release them on Blu-ray then i will buy them.
I have a feeling they’ll wait til the last season and then release a complete blu-ray box set, which is also something I think will happen to Stranger Things too
Yeah probably mate
I have a few bootlegs of movies and TV shows. I get them if I am sure there more then likely never get a proper release! Movies like Hush, Midnight Mass or Army of the Dead! And if there is a proper release of them, I would pretty much get it and throw the bootleg out. But I do watch my bootlegs and find that sometime they look better!
i am still waiting for Hocus Pocus 2 from Disney
I haven’t actually watched that one yet
pauly ref LP/ Vinal play back, what about a ELP LT-1LRC
I understand the ethics behind piracy and bootlegs but honestly sometimes its the only way to get something how you prefer to view it and sometimes people just dont want to pay.
Im not gonna pay a corporation a monthly fee for 1 show cause they refuse to release it physically, i did however pay the person that made the bootleg (all be it they didnt make the content just the blu ray).
I know people have made digital rips of my book and as a creator you just have to swallow that hard truth that some people are just gonna steal your hard work or profit off of it but by in large most wont.
Ive got a handfull of bootlegs only issue ive ever run across was my Mando Season 3 blu ray had some audio sync problems on occasion but since most of the characters have helmets on you wouldnt be any the wiser unless you look directly at the lips of the person talking.
I would only buy a bootleg of something if it was a movie I wanted that didn't come any other way. I have a few titles I wanted where i didn't have a choice but to buy them in bootleg. Keep in mind when it comes to streaming, you dont own any of the programming. They can just pull it from there at any given time for any reason like if an actor in that said movie gets into some sort of legal trouble like jonathan majors did.
The one question I have is how long will a bootleg copy last though? Probably not as durable as an official release
They will last as long as a standard copy would. As long as it plays on that player, you should be fine.
Never understood why anyone would buy bootlegs of TV series that they can watch on a streaming service they are paying for, they are just pirate copies and illegal. Not everything will come out on physical media but eventually some of these shows will be (and have been) released. Never brought a bootleg Blu Ray or DVD and not interested in the majority of Disney’s output anyway. What’s the point of buying something that your not going to watch? (“I’ve got Wandervision on the shelf”? Nobody would care 😂).
Yeah it’s like I said, they were bought mainly to fill a gap in the collection but I would always watch the best quality version available. I guess the only time they would be watched was if Disney+ closed down, which I can’t really see happening
I own the bootleg marvel shows i don't own them all first bootleg i have on Blu-ray is loki season 2 i will get the rest they do come with a nice slipcover and they are sealed 🤩👍💯💯
Well us down under Australia Well Disney has stopped releasing physical in Australia so it's either Disney Plus are bootlegging are spending a lot of money getting it from other countries
Yeah I’ve seen other Aussies importing Disney stuff from America
Bootlegs are a no go, if you support physical media you buy legit. If it's not available on disc bit easily accessible via streaming then that should be good enough. Bootlegs are a problem, I own one, Michael Mann's The Keep as that has never been available outside of VHS.
Buying Bootlegs damages cinema, it takes money from the people who worked long days and hours and puts it into the hands of criminals and that is something I cannot get behind.
The big problem these days are the amount of illegal streaming sites such as flixtor offering HD quality versions sometimes of films that haven’t even been released in the UK. People watch these versions and then not bother buying the official physical release, but then for some they can decide if they’re gonna buy the official release by trying a film first.
I want The Dark Crystal:age of resistance to get a physical release.
I still need to watch that
@@BigPauly oh. It's incredible
The only 2 bootlegs iv got is the walking dead dead city the waking dead daryl dixon if they bring them out official bluray uk ill buy them and bin the bootlegs
Yes those shows haven’t been shown in the UK yet. However there is an official Blu-ray release for Dead City
True Lies my only bootleg. Hope they release obi wan officially
Can ditch True Lies soon as well as Abyss
@BigPauly the abyss not getting a UK release due to the rat drowning scene everywhere else is. They wouldn't cut the scene for the UK release so Cameron said no
I do the same sort of thing with K-dramas 🇰🇷 There are some incredible K-dramas on Netflix but they don’t release them on physical media in the UK however they do give official releases in Asia which you can import. I understand that I’m more likely to rewatch them on Netflix over a physical copy but I like the idea of having them there so that if they ever come off Netflix then I can still watch them
I love a good bootleg
Well i dont do streaning at all! I only buy physical discs! So if a novie doesnt have a proper release on disc what other option do you have🤔? Plus alot of 3D titles are now only on bootleg! If you choose streaming over physical media , then are you a true physical media collector🤔? I choose the discs always & always will🙂!
I get what you’re saying. And if you don’t do streaming then bootlegs are gonna be your only other choice if other countries don’t release physical copies of what you’re after.
Hey thanks very much Paul for replying! I really appreciate it! By the way do you have The Truman Show on 4K🤔? For some reason the transfer didn't look too good on my system, but all the reviews say it's a great transfer🤔!@@BigPauly
While the cgi wasn’t great, she hulk wasn’t even bad
IMO it was dog shit 🤪
Would you buy Netflix bootlegs like stranger things?
I currently have official season 1 and 2 releases on Blu-ray. However I do have cases made up for the other seasons with artwork, but no discs
Bootleg - basically watching pirated tv/film. I’ll never watch things thst way, despite being easily accessible. Same applies to the dodgy sticks
Dodgy sticks? 🤣
@@BigPauly yeah, the Amazon Fire sticks that allow you to stream basically everything from an illegal server, strongly against them!
Tbf you spend loads of money on films you’re never going to get around to watching
Eventually I will, might take a few years though 🤣
@@BigPauly 10 at least 😉
And also bootlegs dont have any special features or proper sound 5.1/7.1 atmos etc....
Yeah you’re missing out on that fabulous Atmos and 4k quality
Won't buy bootleg as can affect studios putting out a official release also bootleg are known for bad picture bad sound overall ain't worth it putting money in people that do fake releases always can and buy official studio psyical media........ I don't support bootleg and never will
I still feel they have a place in putting pressure on streaming companies to release on physical, where they've said they won't. Without people showing them the market is there, bu buying bootlegs, I honestly don't think a lot of the attitudes of the streaming companies would have changed, even if they were/are losing money.
I do, as others have, throw away bootleg copies when I buy a legitimate release. I won't pass it on to anyone in case they just watch that instead of buying the official release... and, as I've said, I want the streaming companies to produce proper physical releases so want *other* people to buy them when they do (and passing on an unofficial copy could have the reverse effect).
Obviously, that said and as stated, I would love to return to a time of refusing to have a single bootleg in my collection because I know I could get an official copy, whether I had to wait a long time or import or whatever... I'd much prefer that to be the case, but right now it sadly isn't.
Yes I think maybe some of the Disney executives have been checking out the group forums and seeing what’s being sold on eBay and realised they’re losing a load of money by not releasing official discs.
The marvel & Star Wars shows haven’t had an amaray release in America. Steelbooks only
Are you sure? I remember seeing some blu-ray hunts in America where they showed Amaray versions 🤔
@@BigPaulyyep I’m sure
I don’t buy bootlegs
I'd be embarressed to have Wandavision, She Hulk and Prey on my blu ray shelf
Both Wandavision and Prey were excellent IMO. She Hulk on the other hand was total dog 💩
Yes you were very silly spending all that money on bootlegs of very mediocre shows, and the point you're making now is that you're over bootlegs .....because Disney lost a lot of cash and their hoping (correctly) that people like you will buy an official release because Obi Wan will have a nice shiny picture on the front of a steelbox. Andor and the first series of Mando were ok but really don't see the appeal of Wandavision or Loki and I doubt any of them will have the rewatchability of proper decent television shows.
I don't think any of them are rewatchable tbh. Maybe Wandavision, but definitely not Loki, Obi-Wan or Andor. Mando season 3 was poor too. She Hulk was awful. Echo is supposed to be mediocre. Falcon was watchable then forgettable. The best series was Hawkeye because Renner was in it and it was a proper continuation.
I loved Obi Wan and Andor so hope they get releases soon. Wandavision was also very quirky and watchable too so can’t wait for this one.
Fast x was the best film of 2023