Stihl 028 AV Oil Leak diagnose and pump replacement / Clutch drum replacement

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  • Опубліковано 9 тра 2022
  • This Stihl 028 was leaking oil as fast as it could. We diagnose and repair / replace the culprit and give new life to this tried and true classic. Thanks for watching!
    -Ray
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    Parts used:
    OIL PUMP GASKETS 1116-649-0500
    Proline® Oil Pump For Stihl 028 Chainsaw 1118 640 3007
    RTV- 1184 threebond: amzn.to/3P9R1df
    clutch drum for .325: amzn.to/3IzJW3p
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  • @DavidLaFerney
    @DavidLaFerney 7 місяців тому +3

    My trusty 40 yr old 028 has the same issue. Thanks.

  • @wayneberry8703
    @wayneberry8703 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you, this helps me with my oil leak problem.

    • @RayofallTrades
      @RayofallTrades  2 роки тому

      Fantastic! Thanks for watching and for the feedback.

  • @notmyname3883
    @notmyname3883 Рік тому +1

    Thanks, man. Saved me a repair charge. And Proline replacement oil pumps are only $22 as opposed to $100 for factory. I'd like to buy you a beer.

    • @RayofallTrades
      @RayofallTrades  Рік тому

      Glad it worked out! Thanks for watching!

    • @connormartin5340
      @connormartin5340 Рік тому

      Do you by chance have the link for the oil pump? Like where to buy it from?

  • @michell7416
    @michell7416 9 місяців тому +1

    Superbe video, merci et bon courage ! (De Bretagne en France)

  • @thomasgronek6469
    @thomasgronek6469 Рік тому +1

    UPDATE: i JUST SPOKE TO STIHL; there did not, is not, and never will exist a high output pump for the 028.they are all the same. Thanks again for the video.

  • @lxAzraelxI
    @lxAzraelxI 11 місяців тому +2

    Danke für das gute Video. Hat mir sehr geholfen…👍

  • @timcoenen9419
    @timcoenen9419 2 роки тому +1

    I have a 271 FARM BOSS, It leaks also. (bar oil). Thanks for the info on how to fix it.

    • @RayofallTrades
      @RayofallTrades  2 роки тому

      Thanks for tuning in and welcome to the channel

  • @tjshively01
    @tjshively01 Рік тому +1

    I just put an o-ring around the plastic plug and reinstalled the pump. No leaks.

    • @RayofallTrades
      @RayofallTrades  Рік тому

      Excellent!! Thanks for the feedback and for watching!

  • @thomasgronek6469
    @thomasgronek6469 Рік тому

    When I switched from the regular bar lube, to 20 weight motor oil, my leak stopped. I think the high viscosity of the 'modern' bar & chain lube builds up too much pressure, and causes the leakage. Yes, you might need a pump and gasket, but if that's not the problem switch to a lower viscosity oil and give it a try. It looks like you did fine with regular bar/chain lube, , , thanks for the video. You picked up a new subscriber.

    • @RayofallTrades
      @RayofallTrades  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for watching and the feedback!

    • @allennewman632
      @allennewman632 Рік тому +2

      I found a manual for this model, and it actually shows what oil to use depending on your ambient temperature. Doesn't say bar oil, it says 20wt,30wt, or 40wt.

    • @RayofallTrades
      @RayofallTrades  Рік тому

      Good to know. Thanks!

    • @thomasgronek6469
      @thomasgronek6469 Рік тому

      @@allennewman632 Thank you.

  • @thomasgronek6469
    @thomasgronek6469 Рік тому +1

    11:00 minutes, there is an angle on the end of the worm gear shaft. That shaft pulses in and out of the pump end, as the flat spot reaches the supply hole, the shaft pulls away from the hole (sucking action), as the flat spot rotates to the discharge hole, the piston pulses the other way, applying pressure on the oil, and forcing it up the hole to the chain, (look up piston pumps), the wobble is to make the piston move in and out. There should be a spring in there somewhere (I haven't taken one apart yet), that keeps the shaft tight against the wobble area, so as the shaft turns, it also pulses in and out (Left and right). I found a part number for a High output pump: *I can't verify this to be fact* 1118 640 3211. I wrongfully concluded that different part numbers were different years, but they also denote oil flow per minute at max RPM, or at least the potential. the high output models have a greater wobble, which increases the pumping action. The flat spot is probably larger too, (Or cupped), to transfer more oil with each pulse. I just learned about this, sorry I can't give more info). Thanks much for the great video. One more thing. I found that thinner oil, as opposed to bar oil, will stop a lot of leaks, the bar oil build too much pressure, the transfer tubes cant handle it..

    • @RayofallTrades
      @RayofallTrades  Рік тому +1

      Those are great tips! I appreciate your taking the time to explain that!

    • @thomasgronek6469
      @thomasgronek6469 Рік тому +1

      @@RayofallTrades Happy to share info, always

  • @thomasgronek6469
    @thomasgronek6469 Рік тому

    great video, thanks. I would get rid of that spur drive, and switch it over to a rim drive, easier to replace in the future, and better diversity for drive ratio (7 or 8 tooth for variations of wood).

    • @RayofallTrades
      @RayofallTrades  Рік тому +1

      Yes that's a good call. Thanks

    • @thomasgronek6469
      @thomasgronek6469 Рік тому

      @@RayofallTrades you are welcome, thanks for the video.

    • @glennmckinley3058
      @glennmckinley3058 Рік тому

      Not sure if you can convert to rim drive because of that oil pump gear that is driven by the drum. Maybe there is a special hybrid drum that has a 325 pitch star for the gear then splines for the rim sprocket but I've never seen one.

    • @andik859
      @andik859 9 місяців тому

      ​@@glennmckinley3058i have it. Here in germany you can buy it.

  • @joelkeller2370
    @joelkeller2370 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for video , is there a way to check passage way from tank to pump before going back together

    • @RayofallTrades
      @RayofallTrades  3 місяці тому +1

      I demonstrate the passages at the 7minute mark. Unless you’re asking about the gasket blocking the hole. For that I would consider either thin oil or air and slowly rotating the pump

  • @philliphall5198
    @philliphall5198 8 місяців тому +1

    There keepers for sure
    Music not needed

    • @RayofallTrades
      @RayofallTrades  8 місяців тому

      Thank you for the tip. I'm still learning!

  • @brandoncox7474
    @brandoncox7474 3 місяці тому

    Awesome. Except you didn’t video where any of the snap rings go. Pretty critical imo

  • @Rein_Ciarfella
    @Rein_Ciarfella 2 роки тому +1

    What is holding the plastic cap into the rear of the new oil pump? Do you think whatever was missing was the cause of the leak? If I had to guess I would have said it was a rubber cup rather than an O-ring.

    • @RayofallTrades
      @RayofallTrades  2 роки тому

      It looked like the plastic cap was glued in. Probably epoxy but resembled wood glue. I never found an o ring but I expected to

    • @Rein_Ciarfella
      @Rein_Ciarfella 2 роки тому +1

      Ray of all Trades Thanks. My guess now is some kind of gasket sealant, since that’s what they use anyway for other things, like crankcase and base gasket joints. Dirko or one of the variants like Hondabond or Threebond 1186.

    • @RayofallTrades
      @RayofallTrades  2 роки тому +1

      I'd use 1187 / threebond but wait for it to cure

  • @TheDistur
    @TheDistur Рік тому

    Hi do you have a part number for that drum/sprocket you bought? Thanks.

    • @RayofallTrades
      @RayofallTrades  Рік тому +1

      I just posted it in the description. Thanks for asking and watching!

  • @bananawednesday3183
    @bananawednesday3183 8 місяців тому

    I found this video from a google search, and I had a similar problem, except my saw was leaking bar oil while in the case, and when the saw was filled with gas, it leaked just gas. Is that oil pump a place where the gas and bar oil would meet? Or do I have another problem on my hands like multiple gaskets? I’m trying my best to not take apart the entire thing since I don’t have an impact wrench

    • @RayofallTrades
      @RayofallTrades  8 місяців тому +1

      Try to clen it real good, fill it up and let it sit on cardboard. They leaks might become visible. Sometimes it's just the caps

    • @bananawednesday3183
      @bananawednesday3183 8 місяців тому

      @@RayofallTrades Thanks for the recommendation!

  • @SabaTexas
    @SabaTexas Рік тому +1

    Need some help finding a Stihl 028 super wood boss Oiler. Please let me know where you found yours. Thank you

    • @SabaTexas
      @SabaTexas Рік тому

      Would like to purchase an aftermarket oil pump.
      The OEM Part number for my saw is 1118 640 3211

    • @RayofallTrades
      @RayofallTrades  Рік тому

      I put the part numbers in the description area. I just found them on ebay. Good luck and thanks for watching and commenting!

  • @kevinboettler7342
    @kevinboettler7342 4 місяці тому

    I have an o28 av super that my grandpa bought in 1979 I found it in the scrap iron pile took it home cleaned the carburetor put gas in it and it runs like a dream but it's not oiling the bar I took it apart and the oil pump looked like it has chocolate milk in it and the plastic piece on the end was basically not attached would that be why it's not oiling the bar and chain any advice would be greatly appreciated

    • @RayofallTrades
      @RayofallTrades  4 місяці тому

      Pretty good chance of it. Check if oiling without bar and chain too. Oilers are available on ebay

  • @jimware7211
    @jimware7211 Рік тому

    I have an oil pump issue with my stihl 028 ac super. I have ordered 2 pumps on line and both of them have not fit.the Stihl dealer doesn't carry as the saw is to old.WHERE CAN I ORDER THE CORRECT PART.

    • @RayofallTrades
      @RayofallTrades  Рік тому

      Did it look like the one in my video or was it a ring style?

  • @allennewman632
    @allennewman632 Рік тому

    Ray, where did you order your parts from

    • @RayofallTrades
      @RayofallTrades  Рік тому +1

      Some from Amazon and some from ebay. I put the parts in the description field

  • @user-hk7ld7kp2o
    @user-hk7ld7kp2o Рік тому

    Helo!! А як з деталями до них є у USA

    • @RayofallTrades
      @RayofallTrades  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching

    • @andik859
      @andik859 9 місяців тому

      ​@@RayofallTradesfix your gasket with some grease it hold it on place.

    • @RayofallTrades
      @RayofallTrades  9 місяців тому +1

      @@andik859 that's a good idea. Thanks

  • @speedycxd4405
    @speedycxd4405 10 місяців тому

    This is not a Eisenschwein