Bad Boy vs TORO Timecutter Residential Mowers
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2020
- Following our Bad Boy vs Toro Titan video, Main Street Mower presents to you the detailed testing and performance analysis of Toro Timecutter 50" and Bad Boy ZT Elite 60".
We have intentionally and carefully chosen a smaller class of TORO mowers to be compared with the much heavier and upper-class of Bad Boy Mowers, with the sole purpose of highlighting the immense contrast in the performance by both the brands.
Product in the Video: Toro TimeCutter® (42") 16HP Zero Turn Mower
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Love the Toro Myride. Bought one in April 2022. But I am afraid to wash it. It as an electronic parking brake controller that costs $150 to replace. The brake control module has a lot of electrical connections to it. It is not water or rain proof. I washed my mower with a regular hose sprayer not a pressure washer. You guessed it. It got water in this module. The result was an intermittent short that would not allow the mower to start. The repair facility said that the part was not covered under warranty because there was water in it. A really poor design on an "outdoor" machine. I am sure there is a warranty clause if you do not do regular cleaning. I am switching to Bad Boy.
I was hoping they got rid of those by now. That is why I won't buy one
Get you a Bad Boy....you can wash it all day
Mowing twice as fast and half the passes on the bad boy...and 10 inches more per pass. At least he admitted he’s biased.
I have a brand spanking new Bad Boy 42" MZ Rambler. The BB replaced a 27 year old Deere STX46. What I like about Main ST. Mower is, he may be biased but he does what most other reviewers do not...He shows the mowers actually cutting grass. I got tired of others doing walk around telling us how strong and durable the machine they're showing is. I REALLY liked when he stressed tested both on that super tall grass. He's the only one I've seen who has done anything like that. Very impressive! Thank you! You get a big thumbs up from me.
Thank you Rocky, enjoy your new mower!
To make a more solid review, don’t wear aToro hat.
He is no doubt bias asf took him 4 passes to make the same cut with the bad boy with one pass
It's not a fair comparison to begin with. It's a 60" vs 50. Big boy has a larger motor.
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Well, we now know which one cuts better. The badboy cut the high stuff first pass, the toro left most of it.
Hell i try not to be bias buy honestly i have had to work on a few mower brands bad boy and spartan are easy to get to everything a bad belt ect i personally hate exmark 😂 i left mine in a corner after the belt snapped a 26in push mower was a good enough replacement
That's what I popped in to say too. The cut in the high grass we as hands down bad boy.
Yep look like he had to make 4 passes with the Toro verses badboy 2 from what I seen
Bad boy is just better all around 🤷♂️🤷♂️
I’ll never know.
All the silliness drove me away by 3:54.
The Bad Boy seemed to chew up and spit out that Toro in the deep grass.
Agree he ran through it twice with the toro the bad boy mad one pass each row 👍
It absolutely did. Notice he had the grass chute on the bad boy turn toward the tall grass. I've got a bad boy it is a beast. Just bought a 48 inch grandstand that cost me five thousand more. It can't touch my bad boy. That's a fact. This was misleading info.
Just bought my first 50-in time cutter with the Kawasaki engine and I love it
Great Choice Garry.
@@mainstreetmower I just bought an older land pride zr44 I want your opinion on it. It seems to cut grass good.
Kill the music... would have loved to hear how the engines reacted when they hit the tall grass
Rob, Thank you for your suggestion. We'll keep that in mind for our future videos.
Want equal comparison, compare the time cutter to the Ariens or gravely 52 residential
This totally sold me on the bad boy. It completely out did the Tardo in the tall grass. Ear protection is used on these so the extra noise is not an issue.
Thats Great. We're glad we could help. Hope you enjoy your new Bad Boy
So, you really let your grass get that high?
Bad boy is literally bigger than that toro titan toro wipes bad boy
That Toro is aimed at home owners with a couple of acre. The bad boy is more of a prosumer machine capable of doing commercial work as well home usage.
I just picked up a Toro TimeCutter 50” with the Kawasaki engine (model 75750 , same as the one you reviewed) and im impressed with it. It rained today and the grass was wet it was about the same height as the grass you was mowing and damn it cut it pretty good on the first pass that i just left it like that. And the engine was just powering through it effortlessly . Its a powerful machine for sure.
We agree with everything you said Daniel. Glad you're loving your TimeCutter.
i just bought end of year model can't wait till its delivered,
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@@onebigkahuna69 how much??
@@onebigkahuna69 I just did the same thing for this year, 2022. It was delivered yesterday, 17 degrees F and 20 mph NW wind and more snow but I did sit on it and pretended mowing.
I got a 60 inch time cutter, 2 years old, not one issue. No complaints here. My neighbor has a bad boy , thing stays broken.
Thank you for sharing Chris. We're glad your timecutter is treating your right even after 2 years.
I bought a mx4200 4yrs ago, and can't wait to get rid of it, my property is anything but smooth and I've got to replace all the parts the deck hangs on, arm lift and both hanger brackets, once a year or so. The deck bounces and the brackets wear and cut through the arm. Bad boy is what I'm thinking of getting next
Thanks for the review. Going to get a time cutter this week after watching some of your videos. Happy Easter.
That's awesome Jon. We're glad we could be of help. Happy Easter
The noise you heard were the blade spindle bearings going bad. This tends to happen when people cut something else other than grass, or they drag the decks too low to the ground. Plus there was a small batch of bearings that did not get lubrication. And Bad Boy has since upgraded the bearings to another part number. The bearings should have black rubber seals on top and bottom. If the bearing only has one rubber seal, and the other seal is metalic, then that is part of the bad batch that tends to get very noisy after about 20 hours. Warranty covers replacement of these bearings....
Having that grass chute flipped up would have helped
I have learned the most about Toro's, especially Timecutter. Couldn't go with any other.
Great machines, for sure.
I have a bad boy i have cut every kind of grass and it has alway done the job kohler is one of the best engines out there mine has almost 900 hrs now and have had hardly no issues the whole time .would buy another one if i were to buy a new one
Just got a toro titan 2020 48” deck. It’s my 1st zero turn. I test drove my dads older yazookees zero turn before I bought the toro. I do notice his controls aren’t as stiff and sensitive as the toro after using it. Are there any adjustments to make the toro controls less sensitive and stiff ?
Hi. Unfortunately no, there isn't a way. The best we could recommend is to give it some time. You would be surprised how quickly they grow on you.
Toro controls are short throw to sum it up so controls are going to be jerky at best. There is a video showing the difference in control movements on a few different models
According to our local Tractor Supply (who sells both Toro and BadBoy), Toro pricing for 2023 has gone up significantly, making the BadBoy a better deal -- regardless of mower quality or mowing comparison
That's good to know. Thank you for sharing.
Looked up prices at tractor supply. The point you didn’t mention is that Bad Boy went up too.
How many out there would like to see the Bad Boy Maverick versus Toro Titan? Need someone that has never been on a Bad boy and Toro to give their honest opinion. Then have Bad Boys Maverick vs Toro Titan guys to do the same. Cut tall grass, wet grass, out outrageous grass, how fast, well you get the picture lol.
they are scared of the Maverick lol
I am looking at the maverick right now
@@spo307 I end up buying exmark laser z e series the series 4 deck absolutely works great stripes cut quality is great, plenty of power on wet grass tall grass 👍👍 Plus my dealer is probably about 7 minutes away from the house 👍👍
@@ericstinnett9182 i am pulling the trigger on a. Spartan rzhd61. Cant find a bad boy maverick back ordered 9 weeks
@@spo307 Wow to hats crazy, I bought mine just in time, cause the new orders that are coming in are $500+ so I saved a lot more money.
My Toro Timecutter arrives next week! So pumped for it I bought a new shed to put it in! 50” Timecutter 75755!
Wow. That's awesome. Enjoy the Mow!
Good test ! Keep your mowers up and your blades sharp. Please consider testing a similar Spartan Mower. Thank you for your past replies.
Great suggestion Ron. We'll keep that on our list.
Is the bad boy magnum, (not the elite) faster then the toro? I just got the new toro 54 inch with the 24.5 v twin. I upgraded over the 2017 toro i had. I like it but its still slow up hills! I thought my hydros were wearing out
No. I’m pretty sure the magnum goes 5mph.
From my understanding Bad Boy offers Military/Veterans discounts on several mowers. I've seen over a 23% on most of them. I've owned a Timecutter SS4260 since 2012. So far its still going strong. I did replace the deck, seat and tires early last year.
That's good to know. Thank you for sharing.
Hey Bro, I appreciate you and your brother honest review of scag vs. toro. Your videos are entertaining and informative at the same time. I love your music adlib. Keep up the good work!!!
We appreciate you taking the time to say so
We got that the grass was rough and tough the first go around. Saying it 10 different ways in the beginning of the video is just time I’ll never get back 😳
What engine do you recommend on the timecutter. Kholer V-twin or Toro V-twin ?
What kind of blade you have on ? And were they both the same kind?
I have a new Toro Timecutter 42" 75746 for mowing a 1 to 2-acre yard (needed a 42" to get between many shrubs, etc.). will that ZT2100 hold up? Am in central Virginia, mowing most weeks from April - September. Thanks
Definitely we never have a problem with that drive unit
Bad boy definitely won that battle in the heavy grass
Great video! So how much do you sell that model Timecutter for? I know the retail is $3099 but what are you willing to let it go for?
$3,099 and a priceless entry to the Main Street Mower family.
He will gladly let it go for $5199. That allows him to buy the Elite with a Kawi and really get some turf mowed in a profitable manner. ;)
I have a 50 inch time cutter and it was my only mower. I cut so many yards, put through hell and back. Never once did it shut down or anything on me. Now riding a hill with it is another story.
Thanks Austin!
I beat the ever loving crap out of mine! mows 6 acres 2x a week. lots of big rocks thru the deck 4x4 chunks and fence posts no broken spindles yet just really bent blades best qualitly money can buy rightnow. Mine is a 2020 60 inch timecutter
Yes and no,I own both mowers and let me tell you, a bad boy from 2007 still rides,cuts,turns,silent blades just like the 2020 time cutter,the only thing the toro differs from the bad boy is the fuel economy,it is a gas zip machine,I recommend both,or if you just a house wife and wants no trouble servicing this things,get the toro time cutter,ride and mow for years to come with only putting gas and changing oil.
P.S toro costumer service sucks.
Thinking about pulling the trigger on a Maverick...good to hear they have a solid reputation
@@timlee2237 i had one for 4yrs this year im going out on my own but man ill miss the ole maverick i had the one with the slick tires honestly was so tempted to see about a set of the tires they have now i bet you'll like it there way better now
Maybe you were wearing the wrong costume when you went for service?
I just got this Toro TimeCutter to replace my 15 year old TimeCutter Z4200 which developed a crack in the crappy Kohler Courage engine crankcase. That said, I happen to really like the new Toro with the Kawasaki engine. The 50" deck cuts beautifully. I don't let my lawn get to the point where the grass is knee high, so I'm not concerned with the Bad Boy cutting the tall stuff better. I will say that the Toro has gone up in price to nearly $4000 from the time this video was made. Inflation sucks!
Thank you for sharing your experience. We really appreciate it and are sure that it would be useful to other viewers of this community.
Nice Edit, I enjoyed the video. Good Job!
Thank you Todd. Appreciate it.
Have mine. For 9 years. Ss 5000. It’s beat already but still works My toro just won’t give up. Prolly has 600 hrs plus
That's amazing.
Main Street Mower yup just gotta make sure it has oil every use but she keeps going
Yep I've got a 7 year old ss5000 with the kawasaki motor. I've replaced the belts, spindle bearings, and change the oil and filters. I cut 2 acres of thick Bermuda every 4 days from May until October. I also tow an aerator and 600 lb mulch cart. I haven't even replaced the original battery. I keep it clean and in the garage when not in use. I've read nightmares about toro, definitely hasn't been my experience. My property is not flat either, the mower has been worked hard and still looks new.
But whats the difference in transmissions. the BB has a 3100 series i cant seems to find what the timecutter has
I’ve owned both and can tell you the Bad Boy left my kidneys feeling like they were ripped out of my body! Very heavy duty, but very noisy and uncomfortable because it’s so rigid. I’m running Toro Timecutters with MyRide for both my personal and landscaping business.
Thank you for sharing.
You must have had a ZT Avenger or smaller. The Elite's and above have swivel suspensions on front, and some upper tiers have rear suspension. If yours is bouncing a lot, you might want to consider leveling your yard because all solid frame mowers are going to bounce you out of the seat unless you own an Elite or larger.
Real shit!! I thought it was just me....had me tripping😂😂
I like your videos. Your videos convinced me to steer clear of the bad boy lineup for my home yard, but after comparing scag to toro, I ended up getting scag liberty. Can you do some videos comparing scag to toro?
We've heard our viewer's requests about doing a SCAG vs TORO video. Although we can not promise it right now, we are looking into it.
A lot of people will chime that I used this or that and this or that is way better. Just do your due diligence and research and then choose wisely. They all have some kind of problem and nothing is perfect. Also, unless the folks replying provide you with detail information on how they use their machines (residential or commercial), how often, how long etc. take their responses with a grain of salt. You don't know them.
I laughed so hard at the outtakes on this video!! Well done!
Thank you Chad. Really Appreciate it.
The hat said from the beginning no matter the outcome of each test Hes a toro man so that said the review is biased.
Thanks for the review.
I have an opportunity to buy a toro time cutter model 75748 for about $2800 at home depot. I wish they offered more options like the one your testing. Bigger deck and kawasaki motor. The one they have has a briggs and 42" deck. Is this still a good mower ? Worth buying?
Thanks
The 42" briggs is a good unit however I suggest shopping at a Lawn mower dealer other than big box stores like home depot. By shopping at a local dealer, not only do you get personal customer care but also get many more mower options to pick from.
What kind blade protection Toro machine has? If I cut grass and there is rock sticking out, how blade will approach that rock or any other sticking out object?
All toro must pass a rigid OSHA objects thrown test, that’s not say that a rock won’t hurt the mower
I work on magnums the most but I also do the zts and the mavrics. I pit on arms
I think this video ended up being a great selling tool for Bad Boy. No matter how much he wanted to hate on it, it still just cut better. Plus, I've seen Toro's for years. They have gotten progressively cheaper and cheaper.
I am just starting to look for a new mower for cutting grass landing strips in rough country. I appreciated this video because it truly showed me that the Bad Boy just looks like it will last a whole lot longer than the Toro, and cut much better.
Thanks for making this video
No worries, we're glad we could help you make a decision.
Amen brother!!!!!
Passive aggressive much?
i just bought the Toro 75750 50 in kawasaki motor cant wait till it gets delivered,
Congratulations on the new ride
Freakin awesome music... I just lost my mind😂. I bought a Bad Boy Rambler 42 yesterday to replace my 11 year old Toro Timecutter. The Toro has the Kawi. It's in great shape. I might just keep em both!
That's awesome that you get to keep both those mowers. Thank you for sharing your story here.
I just bought a time cutter with the kawasaki motor on it. So far I love it
Great Choice Jacob. We're sure that machine will last you a long time.
@@mainstreetmower I'm leaning that way
Great video! Thanks for the info.
Glad it was helpful!
Yea I think I would be embarrassed wearing that Toro hat after this video for sure
So does the Titan have an option of the Kawasaki engine ? I thought they all came with the Toro 24.5 HP engine.
Maybe in the U.S then ??
The 2021 Titan lineup comes with 26 HP Kohler or 24.5 HP Toro engine options only.
@@mainstreetmower I'm in Sydney, Australia and I'm not sure when the 2021 range are due here. The dealers don't seem to know what Toro is up to either as it's all over the place. I just wish they'd get their act together because I don't know if I should hold off until the 2021 models arrive or buy now.. I don't know how much improvement they will be making over the existing models. Would you have any inside information that you can share on the Titan 2021 ?
Bought a BadBoy 60" Maverick yesterday. Chose it over the Titan. Thanks.
Awesome. Hope it serves you well. 😀
I would have liked for you to show us the condition of the blades before and after cutting the grass.
Thank you for your suggestion. We'll see if that's possible for our next comparison video.
I'm looking to buy this Toro for my landcare business.. I know it's not a commercial mower but my limit is 3000$ and it will run 2h daily at most.
Verlag, our next video that is going to drop on Friday June 18th, might have a lot of useful insight for you. Stay Tuned.
Would you recommend time cutter for 10-20 lawns a week for a season maybe 2 ? I need to sit and have a very small budget ?
It ran 20-30 yards a week for me last season which included a several commercial acre lots. It's still going strong this season with no problems .. just keep up with the maintenance.
I've used both. Time master trashed out after 4 months of use on 15 lawns a week. I had a bad boy elite for 2 seasons and sold it for over half of what I paid. Guy I sold it too still has it 4 yrs later. Timecutters are trash unless your doing one lawn a week. But maybe I had a lemon, who knows.
bad boy is hard to beat I have 4 of them.
You definitely had a lemon. We use Timecutters on our residential crews.
Bad bearing making the sound......also was tire pressure the same? Makes a HUGE difference.
Bearings go fast on bad boys for some reason
I had a timecutter with my ride suspension system . It favored riding up against one side of the rails instead of setting in the center of the platform. At 30 hours had both hydros go out so I was told by dealer. Had a belt snap as well in that time frame. That was my last toro experience and dealer told me they wouldn't honor the warranty if the hydros went out again so once it was fixed I sold it for pay off and bought a spartan rt pro and never looked back . Toros are nice mowers for some but my experience wasn't the greatest after what I thought was a upgrade From my old husqvarna zero turn which only ever needed oil changes and blade sharpening...
Curious about the spartan mowers ive used bad boys and i almost went spartan but we don't have any local dealers they look sweet
@@toxictophat4194 so far my spartan has been awesome except for the habit I had running my deck in a water puddle and washing the bearings out that's been my only issue so far
Was it use for residential or commercial mowing?
Run the hustler raptor x, I'm curious on your thoughts
We'll put that in the pipeline 😀
My buddy just upgraded to an exmark and selling me his toro 60 inch kohler for $1000. He paid $4000 a few years ago. Garage kept new deck. I can't wait to cut grass.
Thomas, congratulations on your new TORO. You might be interested in this TORO vs Exmark comparison we did a while back: ua-cam.com/video/qFOcrDQF2ZM/v-deo.html
I have a portal TimeCutter ss4235 what does the rattle black thing is broken because we have a Silverado is black
I think you are asking about a rattling noise around the muffler? It sounds like you may have a broken heat shield, this is not an expensive thing to repair
thanks for making me buy the zt. it has been a amazing machine....
We're glad we could help. Enjoy the mow!
Well, over my 76 year, I have read many Owners Manual for ridding mowers of any kind, that recommend you wear hearing protection. Also, the Bad Boy cut a better first pass than the Toro. Think I'll get a Bad Boy hat. Thanks for your review. Dave
Thank you for watching Dave
Something to consider with this test and the cut quality--- A wider mower, like the 60" Bad Boy in this video, will always cut taller grass better than a narrower 50" Toro. The blades on the Bad Boy are ~3.3" longer.
That's a great point. Thank you for sharing.
Coming from a lawnmower dealership and a small engine mechanic shop, we deal with both of these mower brands everyday. Hands down, Bad Boy is the better mower. First, the deck on every residential Bad Boy is commercial 7 gauge steel, even on the smallest $3,000 bad boy. The Toro deck is only 10 gauge steel which is thinner so it can't take as much wear and tear. Second, you are comparing a Kawasaki vs Kohler. Of course the engine is going to sound different, but when you started those blades on the Bad Boy, that sounds like you've got some kind of issue going on under that deck you might want to check out. Bad Boy does not sound like that on a normal basis. It would be interesting to see what you have under those decks. Blades and baffles make a difference with how far the grass is thrown and how much grass is being cut off at a time. Nothing against Toro, but Bad Boy is the better option when it comes to the overall simplicity of design which makes Bad Boy much easier to work on when repairs are needed, because lets be honest, it's a mower and sometimes things need to be repaired or replaced. Also, with Bad Boy the fuel capacity is greater so you get more mowing done with each tank of gas, the steel frame is tougher for more durability, the list goes on...Not to mention, the Bad Boy just looks good.
We always love to hear 1st hand testimonies from industry professionals. We appreciate your insight and your time. Thank you for sharing.
Add to ask if that the badboy us made in the USA and they support our veterans.
@@optimusprime3484the TSC site says the timecutter 60" is also made in the USA. I'm not a veteran, but I did serve, so I can't speak to the discount. I guess that depends on the dealer.
The toro has an amazing side discharge design. Hard to clog it, and it shoots the clippings far.
For sure. That's one consistent advantage we've noticed on the TORO's in all the comparisons we've done.
Hopefully I won't ever have to cut grass that tall, thick and tuff. If I need to, I'll use a Brush Hog or Ventrac.
I like a review that has the real sound of the mower working not fancy music dubbed over the sound of the working mower. To overproduced vlog
Thanks for the feedback
I had a Koehler on my Exmark and it crapped out after less than 750 hours, it was a single cylinder 18 or 19hp put on a B&S twin cylinder with 22 hp what a difference, I could talk myself into a Kawasaki $$$$, but I know their engines like Honda are very good.
Thank you for sharing Bob
*1st time viewer.. I absolutley LOVED this video! Laughed out loud atleast 5 times. Love that you taking on haters instead of candy coating to please everybody. Not only was the video fun to watch and well put together it actually had useable info. Now it's time to go watch all your other videos. Subscribe button has been smashed!*
Rocky Top Splash, you're the man! Appreciate the kind words. Hope you enjoy all our other videos, as much as you enjoyed this one
I concur
What lawnmower is better for my solution because I cut my house and cut the grass in a baseball field at the firehouse that I belong to 3 or 4 times a year.
Exactly the video I was looking for
Thanks for watching!
I'll probably never be able to get one five years ago I bought all Skag ...nothing has broke down ...yet
It's obvious that you're biased with your Toro hat on
It’s even more obvious because he actually said he was biased. 🤔
Iv got the toro mx5025 love it just a all together great mower
We agree Christopher.
I'm in California, giving shout out for Al.. thanks for mower you have him. he's awesome.. I'd visit butt too far. .
Thank you for checking out channel. Appreciate your time and words.
when you started to go into the tall Grass my first thought was how do you know there isn't a dead body in there that would be messy and hard to clean off the machine.....just sayin....
haha we appreciate the concern and are grateful that we did not find anything like that in the grass. Things we do for our subscribers...
Just leave the mess on the mower. Its fine. LMAO
Thanks been thinking about a Timecutter recently
Go for it!
Can I get parts for the time Cutter? Ss4235
I have a badboy elite. And from what I saw the bad boy done a better job than the Toro I've got nothing against Toro but when you was riding you went through higher grass on the badboy then you did with the Toro you come back out on that sawgrass the same way you went in the bad boy eat it up.
If I were a lawn mower mechanic and I made my living fixing broken machines that are easy to fix. I would love the Toro machine as well. Always there and ready to be fixed! Does that make me a BadBoy?
Lol. Thanks for the video. I have owned both. The BB Maverick is my ride of choice.
PS. When on the Toro in tall grass. How did you see where you were going? 😝
Keep in mind we were comparing mowers in two different classes. The taller deck of the Titan would be a more fair comparison in tall grass
We have many dealer friends who carry both brands, they all say the Toros hold up better
What is the name of that banjo intro? I love it!
hahaha. Michael, our editor loves it too. It's called 'Funny Song' by Bensound.com
The toro didn’t cut the tall grass near as clean an you went back out threw what you cut going in the bad boy you when in an out a different way I’ve owned both an bad boy is better in my eyes
Not sure who you were fooling with this but the bad boy made one pass each row the Toro you had to run back over twice 😂
Second and last video I watch from a bias fanboy. The Toro has a 10" smaller deck to put all it's horsepower to and STILL had to cut everything twice. From what I saw $1k more money for the Bad Boy is a bargain at twice the price for a clearly better machine.I've been on the fence about getting the ZT Elite over a cheaper (Timecutter) machine and you helped make up my mind. How do you cut time by having to crawl or cut everything twice?
I watched the video and bought the Bad Boy--not nearly as loud as he make it out to be.
That's the war I watched it also
Gonna have to change that intro music, its reminding me of something else haha
What is it reminding you of?
I’ve been shaken to my core by a bad boy cuz of VERY bumpy terrain
We're sorry you had to experience that. However, we are not surprised based solely on our own experience with Bad Boy mowers.
I used my buddy’s high end bad boy on a little tough terrain and it best me to death as well!
My bad boys are the smoothest ride I've had on a zero turn. front and rear suspension plus suspension seat. Two maverick hd fully commercialized mowers with 23hp kawi fx engines and hydro gear zt3400 trans axles. $16,200 out the door. $800 daily average mowing five days a week. Bad boys cut clean and ride smooth. What more do you want out of a mower? A big name? Go ahead and buy it then.
Yes I agree Toro feels a lot better and it's comfortable I have two of them myself and I I think Toro is comfortable
I have a time cutter and it has done fine for 2 years 3- 5 acres each week. I did burn up both transmissions and toro did not cover the replacement cost, I did and I will NOT buy another toro, yes I had a bit more acres than they recommend for a timecutter, but they should have made that clear at my purchase not after a failed trans.
We understand Steve. Sorry for the experience you had. Your dealer should have made sure that you knew all those details before selling you the machine.
I want to see the timecutter 50 with the Kawasaki vs the ariens 54.
Thank you for the suggestion Samuel.
i have many mowers ,,an the one i like best is my 314 toro wheel horse ,,its a tank in a wet yard ,,my 1220 ford id great for my open field,,,but still love my toro
That's awesome. Thank you for sharing Craig.
I am not a TORO guy by any means. However, when you compare anything, when something is 66.66% more it should be better. Now, I am going to mow my lawn with my Cub Cadet Pro Z 972 SD
Agreed Stanley
The noise is the hydro whine that comes from having a heavy duty transmission. It’s a trade off kinda. My Scag Patriot has the loudest transmissions I’ve ever heard, but it can pull a 2000 pound boat out of the water any day, just as long as the tires are gripping.
That's good information. Thank you for sharing.
Heating up those transmissions is the toughest job for the mower . Hydrostatic transmission is different than a PTO tractor
You cant believe that the toro cut the tall grass better. You had to do multiple passes with the toro what the bad boy did in a single.
Lol 😂 y’all gonna make me lose my mind lol 😂
Up in here. Up in here
Thanks I will probably go Toro! My brother had toro for his lawn mowing business and they have great Kawasaki engines which are just better then the bad boys it seems.
Great choice Richard. Enjoy the mow!
@@mainstreetmower Question for ya, and thank you, so many options in my $3500 price range..... what about the about a timecutter 50" sku "75751" larger one for the price of only $3200?!! In my price range and get a 50" outta the deal? Is this a great option for the price or is smaller ones for the price better? 50" (127 cm) TimeCutter® Zero Turn Mower (75751)
@@mainstreetmower also do you know the difference between the 50" timecutter "75751" for $3200 and the 50" timecutter for $3800 and which one you would go with of the two? I have a $3500 price range.
Bro if you just bump up to bad boys commercial lineup they all have the Kawasaki engines and also for the money…the BadBoy commercial stand ones are the best on the market.get a BadBoy 54 inch Revolt…you’re good for life and stand ones are way better anyways brother
You'll regret it...wait until your transmission belt keeps popping off; especially on the time cutter
the real question is which one will still be running 5 years from now.
This. This right here. Can not agree more with this.