Hustler Vs TORO Commercial Mowers
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
- The 2 most coveted commercial ride-on mowers go head to head in this super analytical comparison video by Main Street Mower.
Tune in as we put these mowers through a series of tests to compare their speed, cut quality in home lawns, cut quality in gnarly fields, traction on slopes and all the specs and features that you might use.
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[PRODUCTS DISCUSSED IN THE VIDEO]
(1) TORO 4000 Series (74015)
(2) Hustler X-One (940197)
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[ VIDEO CHAPTERS ]
00:00 Comparison Introduction
01:16 Mower Specs & Stats
04:32 Test 1: Slope Test
06:41 Test 2: Speed Test
07:25 Test 3: Cut Quality in Home Lawn
14:11 Test 4: Cut Quality Side by Side
14:49 Test 5: Cut Quality in Gnarly Field
17:42 Test Conclusions
20:48 Creature Comforts Comparison
26:33 Thank you!
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@@FarmerTom-bz6tn That's not good, specially with all these mowers being loud as it is. Thanks for sharing
Your presentation on these videos on mowers are the best by far ! 👌 Appreciate all the time spent and all the info !
Thank you soooo much Ted, we really appreciate it.
I’m a Hustler man. Buy once cry once. Super Z with separate pump and wheel motors, 3 gallon Hyd reservoir with oil cooler. 14mph top speed. Built like a brick bathroom. Al bladez sent me 100.
A couple of people have mentioned the Super Z in the comments. We definitely gotta check that out.
My dream mower. I have had my 2015 Fastrak SD since new and has been a beast for me, and is really all I need, but a guy can still dream.
I've bought 4 Hustler and there was no problem with low discharging. The Hustlers Brand is great. It all depends on the blades you purchase that defines how much grass clippings comes out. I cut yards worse than the one he mowed, my Hustler discharge the clippings 5 to 6 feet.
This was awesome! I was sent here by Al Bladez! You are awesome for giving him a new mower❤ Love from PA!😊
Thank you.
Al Bladez sent me! Thanks for gifting Al with the new mower! I'll be viewing this channel from now on.
Awesome, welcome to the channel.
I have only lived in apartments and condos, but love watching these videos on lawn care. I doubt I will ever be able to afford a house, so I will live vicariously through your channel. Goals :).
haha I feel you. Something really satisfying about these videos.
I'm a new subscriber came over from Al Bladez channel. Thank you Main Street Mower for putting your money were your mouth is and partnering with Al to help pay it forward. I'm in Michigan but if I was local to you I'd definitely stop by. Thanks again.
That's very nice of you, thank you.
Just wanted to say Al sent me! Thank you for rewarding him for the work he does.
Thank you, we just wanted to support Al's great work in whatever way possible.
My son and I use a 60" Hustler Hyper-Drive and a 72" 2013 Exmark Lazer Z on a 6-acre property every week. With the chute flap up, The Hustler disperses well. With it down it tends to row-clump. I would much rather drive the Hustler over the Exmark though. It's crazy smooth and comfortable. The Exmark hydros are nowhere close to the Hustler hydros. Even with spot on maintenance with both mowers, the Hustler wins. Great review of these machines. Thanks for taking the time to get this together.
Good to know Jonathan. We did have the flaps down on both of these while mowing. Maybe that's why the cut on hustler felt a little less good than the toro.
I really enjoyed watching your experiment!
Thanks for all you do for Al Bladez!
We're glad. Thank you for watching 🙂
I haven't tried the Toro but I do own a Hustler. I have had it for 6 seasons. I mow 5 acres a week with it and it has not once let me down, heck it even still has all the belts that came on the mower. All I've had to do is change the blades, oil & filter, and a battery. I did have to change the voltage regulator at the beginning of this season, but overall the Hustler is built like a Tank!!
That's great. Glad the hustler's been nice for you 🙂
Thanks Chip for helping out Al Bladez recently on one of his free lawn transformations! New subscriber here
It was our pleasure. Thank you for subscribing. Hope you enjoy the content on here.
Toro, but only by a narrow margin. Both are very good mowers. You were crazy to even take them both on the steep slope by the pond. Glad you didn't end up demonstrating the life saving properties of the ROPS!!
haha thank you for watching Steven. We even tried riding these mowers down that slope but gave up the idea before starting. Seemed too dangerous.
The gnarly grass made Toro the winner. Glad to see you off crutches!
For sure. Thank you Joy.
Watched the @Al Bladez video on massive overgrowth/free job where your store donated a Toro unit to help him do the intense job where Code Enforcement threatened to take the house. Thank you for being so compassionate and kind to your community! I subscribed to both your channels, looking to be educated and happy for kind people like you two! 🥰😎 (I like Toro equipment too!)
Thank you so much, really appreciate that.
I've always loved hustlers and I test drove a toro, but my toro dealer is terrible so even if I wanted to make the switch I wouldn't unless the local dealer makes some significant changes. Dealer support is key!
Cannot agree with this more. Even if you buy the best machine imaginable but your dealer support does not come through, you will never be happy with that unit.
I loved this video and the information shared in it, my only complaint (and it’s not even with either mower) would be ALL the camera cuts, changes and angles, great video but that’s the only problem I had with it, thanks for your hard work and knowledge.
That's good insight Lance. Will keep in mind for our future edits. Thank you 🙂
Love your informative videos. I’m here because of Al Bladez.
Awesome! Thank you for checking us out.
I have a toro series 3000 commercial mower that’s 5 years old. It’s a great mower and is built to last which is most important.
awesome. Thank you for sharing Gary. Hope your mower last you many many more years to come.
Been watching these lawn cutting videos for about a year now. At first was really impressed by a Hustler. I realize there is different texture of grass but thought the Hustler was pretty good.
Then this lawn care person, Fill of Fill's Lawn Care had a Toro and that was a game changer for me. Even has a catcher bucket you can put on top.
I started mowing grass for neighbors when I was 12. First a riding mower at one yard then my dad's gas powered reel mower.
Years later at an airplane club in northern California I cut their 7 acres on a John Deere riding mower. The grass was just like what you cut at end of the video. Was fun but these two units are great. I really like the Toro.
That is such a cool story. Thank you for sharing. We're looking forward to soon doing a Toro vs JD. Stay tuned ☺
Thanks for gifting Al a new mower . You are awesome !!
Our pleasure!
Thanks for helping al Bladez! thumbs up .. keep up being great !
As a spreadsheet nerd, I liked the side by side compare at the beginning.
Awesome. I am sure you'll like other content on our channel. We're somewhat of spreadsheet nerds ourselves. 🙂
Thats definitely what I would consider a Ventrac only slope lol y'all are ballsy.
Haha for sure. That slope is Ventrac approved. Zero-Turns, not so much.
Blade type, angle of sharpening, and a couple other factors that could change the way a mower cuts quickly. You are correct they are very close in specifications and other brands with the same qualifications could do just as well.
You took an extra pass or two with the toro. Would have liked to have seen them disperse with the chute pulled up. Both great mowers
My vote is for the Toro. We are looking at the Toro next weekend. Great information on both. This helps a lot. Thank you for sharing.
Absolutely. Hope you get the right mower for you.
Best review I have seen on zero turns. Thanks
Love compliments like that 🙂 Thanks man, glad you enjoyed it.
I purchased a 4000 beginning of this year and so far we enjoy the machine...cut quality, reliability, low maintenance. I will say this that the Kawi 31 HP is pretty heavy on gas and I'm not a fan of the hydro maintenance-you have to take a tiny vent screw out to bleed the air out when filling pumps. But so far our 4000 has been a very impressive machine for the money.
Same, we have the 35 hp 4000s. The old Parker hydro pumps were so much easier to change fluid BY A LONG SHOT 😅
That particular Toro model (74015) is actually a 5 yr/1500 hour warranty. Great comparison. As far as the sealed vs. serviceable bearings, I side with sealed bearings all day. When they're sealed you don't see warranty claims getting disputed. And with as long as sealed bearings last it will actually be cheaper to run a sealed bearing till it goes out, then replace with a new one vs the cost of grease and time spent greasing over that time period. Especially since the sealed bearings typically last north of 1,000 hrs. Especially if you have a large fleet of 10 plus mowers, all that time and hassle to keep up with greasing all those zerks every week.
As a service manager that deals with mechanics and mower repairs all day every day, I couldn't agree more. Sealed bearings have saved us and our customers hours of hassle.
Plus you are right about the 1500 hours, my mistake. This specific HDX does have a longer warranty compared to the rest of the 4000 series line up.
Only on the motor not on the other electronics‼️👎🏼
@@andyflores9872 If you are referring to the warranty, it would actually be 3 years in the motor and 5 yr/1500 hr on everything else. Including the electrical switches and wiring harness.
I would love to see you test how each machine climbs curbs.
I started my business with Toro mowers 20 years ago, and acquired 3 very used Hustlers since 2020. The Hustlers Maintenance costs have been reasonable, and with the higher speed of the 2023 models, we have decided to continue buying Hustlers.
That's awesome. Thank you for sharing Jacob. Great to know how they are performing in the field. Thank you so much for that curb climbing test suggestion. Definitely sounds interesting. Might incorporate that in all our future comparisons.
Aye God Bless You Guys Heart For The Mower AI Used To Grace A Woman With A New Reform Yard Respect ✊🏾
Thank you 🙂
I have an X-One and I think it's a really great mower for our 2 acre yard. One way to stop the clumping is to remove the rubber discharge chute, it really opens the deck up and allows the grass to fly alot further...almost too far.
I have a Hustler Fastrak SDX Pro - what I did was cut the chute in half, opens it up, but stops it from landing the in the next zipcode.
To me it was a tie they both won I guess it comes down to price which one costs the least
My experience with hustler mowers is that they are notorious for decks clogging up. We had a fast-track that was constantly clogging up, my brother has one that clogs up, my dad's friend has one that clogs up and I can tell by the humming noise that my neighbors hustler clogs up lol
And we always ran with an open or no chute and it did the same thing 🤷♂️
I took the chute off my Hustler.
I do get dirty, but my wife makes me take a shower every day. Lol
I have a John deer rider I wish I had either one of the test mowers thanks for the video.
Thank you for commenting Luke. You think your deere can take on any of these 2 mowers?
Need more comparisons like this nice
Stay tuned, we drop a new video every friday.
BLADEZ sent me!!! Let’s CRUSH that grass baby!!! 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
Lets goooo
hustler+Thank you so much for the amazing demonstration👋👋
Awesome. Thank you for watching 🙂
I also had something to add, I have the toro 5000 series. As you know the front tires are flat free which doesn’t require any air. A few months back one of my tires has came loose from the the wheel. Any idea how to fix this? Thanks man love the video
Came from Al Blades. That mower is amazing.
Glad you liked the grandstand atlus's mamabear 🙂
Thanks for helping AL Blaze with a Tora God Bless You ❤
It was our pleasure Shiela.
Love your videos. Glad Al Baldenz sent me your way
Yess! We're glad. Hope you enjoy the rest of the content we have lined up for the summer.
Just watch a video of Al Bladez when you gave him a Torro mower. Al mowed a lawn of people that didn't have funds to have their lawn cut. He did an amazing job and a big part of that was ecause you gifted him a Torro. Well done !!! I watched from NZ.
Yes sir, it was our pleasure to help Al in any way we could. Greeting from florida 🙂
Its all about the cut , that's what pays the bills , and Toro will be the one 👍👍
Can't argue with that. 🙂
Would love to see the big diesel’s compared to each other, great video btw. Really get the sense that ye take a lot of passion and pride in what you do. Thanks for sharing that
Thank you for your words. Really appreciate it. Hope you enjoy the rest of the content on our channel.
I have the same Toro. My favorite part about it is how long it can run on one tank of gas. I have a landscaping company and one of my commercial contracts is through the government in a 5 acre satillite field. Its all native grass and does not grow super fast, but because the government wastes money, they want it mowed weekly, every week, all year round even in winter when the grass is not even growing. The Toro makes quick work of those 5 acres and it can do it all on one tank. It gives me something to do during the winter haha.
haha that's great man. Im glad the toro is keeping you busy
Saw where you gave Al a mower. New subscriber. Blessings.❤
Thanks for subbing! Hope you enjoy the content on here.
Fun testing man. Get Toro/exmark top mowers vs hyperdrive. I’ve been testing everything on my channel also.
Awesome. We'll check it out.
This was a great and as fair as you can get it comparison. I think the Toro would win overall by my books because of the phenomenal cut quality but think it'd be interesting to see the 2023 Hustler vs the Toro if you can get it. Both seem like great machines though!
Yes, totally agreed. Both machines are great but the toro does have a little edge over the hustler with it's cut quality. We're intrigued to find out how it does against the 23 model as well. We'll see if we can get our hands on one.
Any experience with using flex-forks? I’m thinking about putting them on my new Hustler X-One.
Since I live in the mountains and have very hilly terrain, neither of these would work for me. For hilly terrain, a zero turn with an actual steering wheel is phenomenal. I have the Cub Cadet RZT-S which is not a commercial mower but it's for my property and I absolutely love it. I can mow any terrain with it and believe me I have some very steep hills. It does much, much better than a traditional lawn tractor. Obviously for mostly flat areas, these mowers in this video are the way to go.
Totally agreed. Zero turns - great on flat areas. Steep hills, probably not. The hills tested in this video are an absolute no-no to be even touched by these units.
Went from Troro Super Z to
Hustler X -One…
Both of these mowers are beasts.
Great machines.
Actually don’t see a noticeable difference in the overall work these machines are capable of doing but I’m well satisfied.
After twenty years of hard mowing I finally gave the old Toro away.
My only regret is not having a local dealership in my area.
The dealer I purchased from in Lynchburg Va. has apparently gone out of business.
Hustler service and parts are a pain to readily get in Bedford Va.
Hustler is not a popular brand in my neck of the woods.
Toro is king here.
Probably should have stayed with Toro because of that.
Thank you so much for sharing. Great to know about your experience.
Gotta go diagonal on hills, we climb them at work pretty well with our 950r john deeres and tweels.
Awesome. Thank you for the advice.
So I've own the 4000 pro 31 kaw and love it but it does not disperse clipping well on bi weekly cuts you have to double cut to recut clipping. Plus the deck will unlevel often when cuttings rough uneven lawns to to the chain links
I have the toro 4000. I want a set of tweels for it. Can you tell me a part number or where to get them for the 4000? I’m having an issue finding them for the 4000. Thx !
Did I misunderstand, it sounded like you mowed at 3.5 inches with Hustler but raised the Toro to 4 inches. Did I miss something?
Thanks for making the effort to run the tests, good stuff. We mow about 7 acres and the trails in the woods with an X1 and an older Gravley I’ll have to say I use the Gravley for the inner yard because I lathe stripping I get with it, but it can’t hold a candle to the X1 for speed.
Thx again
PS with the JD we mowed properties that has grass taller then that as the properties were near the coast of Texas .
The JD minced the clippings real fine and so yes even with grass that was typically taller then the deck , it only took the know how to mow without leaving clippings or clumps everywhere.
We also just attached a bungee cord to the discharge chute so that it was all the way back and the clippings had a better chance to not clump up .
Ask the lawn guys that are pros how to mow grass in a certain patterns so that ya have either very little clippings or clumps .
That's great to know. Thank you for sharing.
I liked the video and the side by side comparisons of the two monster zero turns. The Toro did cut better even though you did cut the new home lawn, but that grass wasn't manicured and very hard to even stripe with either mower. Soft dirt and with the flags stating where the sprinkler system was going would be a tough cut until it's been installed after a few years.
Absolutely correct. It was a bit of a challenge.
Thank you for the honest review I bought a cubcadet for my first mower zt1 I am looking for a commercial mower and really leaning towards toro.
Well the zt1 cub cadet took a shit, went and bought myride titan 60 the toro is a amazing machine.
Cool video, I would love to see you compare it to a Spartan SRT XD or whatever Spartan is equivalent to that toro. Thanks
AL BLADEZ sent me. Thanks for supporting him.
Absolutely.
I use a mulch kit and I still have some cut clumps with mine. I raise my deck at the end of each row with my foot and it seems to disperse the clippings when I do that.
Good to know. Thank you for sharing Randy
Question from a Zero turn noob - Why does the Toro sound so much louder? The whine noise sounded so much more intense to me.
We still use 2000 and 2003 Toro Z masters. Well over 4K hours on them. Hard to complain. We also two new scag turf tiger 2s. We’ll see how they hold up. We made the switch because our local shop sells scag. We have to drive an hour or more to our closest Toro dealer.
Ah that's fair. IMO the best mower is the one that you can find the best dealer for, nearest to you. Glad to hear how your toro's have lasted all these years. Would also love to know how those scag's do for you once you have a few more hours on them. But thank you for sharing, very insightful info indeed.
Anyone know why toro removed their new grandstand hdx mowers from their website? They were there for a bit and then they disapeared.
You forgot to talk about how sharp the blades are!!
Man that Toro has a nice cut
Right! We tested their new electric Timecutter yesterday and man let me tell you, If you are a fan of toro's cut quality, you are in for a surprise when you see that video.
Can you please do a demo on push mowers vs. walk behind vs. standers vs. zero turn on very steep hills? Cost vs benefits and which one can handle the steepest terrain side and uphill. Thank you!
That's a great idea. Thank you for sharing Kevin. You can positively expect this one to be released on this channel soon.
Hustler all day long and twice on Sundays for me. My 2015 Fastrak SD has been an absolute dream to own for the last 9 years. When I replace it, it will be another Hustler, unless quality decreases, then it is Scag.
That's awesome. We like people that take care of their stuff properly because honestly if you could do that, any mower would be great for you.
I have a Hustler mower it has over 600 hours, and have not had to replace a spindle. I had a Deere before and was changing spindles every 100 hours.
I would like to see you do the same video with the stand on mowers. I would like to see that hill with the stand ons
Awesome, we'll see what we can do. Those hills with a stander might be overkill tho haha
@@mainstreetmower maybe but people
Love to see if they can hold them. That’s why I have a 52 grandstand instead of a 48
I like the 2 tanks of the Hustler which is important on slopes
That's is for sure an interesting setup Hustler has got there. How do they help on slopes?
Maybe that Toro is what I need for my Arthritis Knees. Way to much money and maintenance (which I do not do) good review I can not wait for your 2024 Recycler and Super Recycler reviews. I need PP and PowerReverse 34 likes now.
The MyRide option is something you should definitely look into. After my knee surgery, I do not trust any other mower than a Toro, specially when it comes to comfort and safety.
@@mainstreetmower Thanks for replying and you and Garage Gear are my favorite Lawn Mower reviews.
@@gregoryeditor6500 That means a lot. Thank you Gregory.
Your a brave man trying that billy goat ride
🙂
Saw you on Al Bladez, like what you’re doing.
Toro hands down especially when it throw the grass out farther
Agreed.
I don't know how mower companies gauge the cut height versus the setting, but my Kubota Z422 at 3.5" cuts a lot lower than my neighbors Hustler at 3.5". And that could come down to how the deck was leveled. Either way, in your tests, don't think you could go wrong with either mower. I have a Kubota so I have no skin in this game. Just my observations.
Great observation. I agree you cant go wrong with either of the ones tested in this video.
The Toro grass shute has a curve in vs the flat shute of the Hustler, which makes a big difference in discharge. The trick I use is to raise the shute with a bunge cord so it can throw the clippings farther and on a windy day the wind helps spread the clippings. When I finish I raise the deck and go over the clippings and spread them.
That's awesome. Toro's patented discharge chute is by far the best in the game. You can see all the R&D that has gone in creating it.
I mow for the school district day in and day out. I respect the test but my test is at 500 hours how are they holding up! Great video
Totally fair and agreed. You not only want a good mower but you also want a good mower that lasts you a long time.
Wow some serious equipment 🇬🇧 Al Blazez sent me 🎉🇺🇸
Welcome to the channel Gary 🙂
Something is wrong with that Xone. If my 22 model had cut grass that bad the dealer would've gotten it back right then. Mine doesn't leave long clippings and throws them about 15 feet. Thanks for sharing.
That's great to know. Thank you for sharing.
Can you do comparison stock tires vs voodoo tires
Absolutely. Stay tuned.
So you mowed with the Hustler at 3.5" and the Toro at 4", how is that comparable? Was that a slip of the tongue or is that actually the heights at which you mowed?
I just misspoke. I mowed them both at the same.
We started with the hustler at 3.5 but realized that it was too low almost immediately. Then we switched to 4" and even included a text update stating that.
The plate on the hustler does not rattle without the bolt it has rubber bumpers underneath. underneath underneath underneath
It’s really hard to get a good mulched discharge with square decks. I have a commercial Hustler and love it but dealing with the excess grass clippings left behind is a little frustrating. Anyone else have a Hustler and, if you do, what blades are you using?
Good question, we would love to know as well.
I have a 45” 2022 fastrak and I run Oregon high flow blades.
I switched from high flow ,back to gator blades,big difference
Well and I've been doing a mowing business for 4 years
I think tornadoes are lot better and they can cut a lot I have a 2 Toros 1842 Inn 18-inch horse motor and I got a 50 inch Toro 22 horse and I think Toros a lot better
You should try a Cub Cadet PRO Z S on that hillside mowing job. You might be surprised.
Will absolutely love to try that. Thanks for the suggestion.
I have used Toro and Hustler. Hustlers drive the smoothest of all mowers I have tried. I think that it has to do with the way they set up the linkages, and I also love that putting the sticks out automatically engages the parking brake. I run a 60" Hyperdrive with now 1200 hours on the original spindles and still do not have play. I do not think that I am 100 percent satisfied with the cut, but it does cut well. I have an operator controlled discharge chute OCDC, so it does not have a deflector and the clippings spread fine. With the OCDC down, mulching with out a mulch kit, there is some blowout and windrow, but it keeps the clippings out of beds. I am buying a Toro Grandstand to try out, so I am curious about the cut difference.
Love the insight. Thank you for sharing. I also believe that the linkages are the reason for how smooth the hustlers are. Would love to know how you feel after trying out a grandstand.
Toro appeared to take care of business a little better than the Hustler. Curious if the 2023 changes on the Hustler would make a difference. Seemed like a well thought out head to head test
Thank you William. Glad you liked the video.
Hustlers are good. The forks would break on us...dont know if it was defect. Dixie choppers are great too. Toro are nice. I cut with the push version. Sharpen the blades. Keep the oil filter and air filter good. And everything is well. Its a ten year old mower. Runs like new.
That's awesome. We love people that take care of their equipment regularly and properly. Honestly, for people like that any mower would be a great mower.
My Toro 4000 has 600 hours and I haven’t changed the first belt. It has been the most reliable machine I have ever run… that being said, it does lack some cut quality compared to other mowers I’ve been on.
It will be hard to buy anything other than Toro because time is money, and there is no down time with Toro mowers…
That's awesome. Thank you for sharing Isaac. Hope you get many many more years out of your 4000.
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Hi! I found your channel on the @albladez channel. This is terrific and helpful content
Thank you so much. I am glad you like the videos on here.
I’m a dealer that carries both brand and for the most part both are given an accurate assessment but I will say that if you are a customer shopping both of these brands, the 4000 should really be compared to the super-z. The X1 is more like a Toro 3000.
Good to have another dealer's vote of approval. Thank you for watching ☺
I'm here from Al Bladez channel
Hey, welcome to the channel.
Like to see a Scag V Toro test
We did one. Check it out
Hustler used to have a unit specially designed to mow slopes SAFELY. Longer frame , wider rear end, weight plates mounted up under, hyperdrive hydro system, 35hp dry sump Kawi idk if that’s standard but don’t think it is, mud tires from factory,,, they grip slopes WAY better, HUSTLER ATZ, wish they still made them you can find them for sale occasionally
That's really nice to know. Thanks for sharing. The ATZ looks like a beast! we love it. 🙂
10” -> 3.5” of Bahia grass should prob use a double cut to mulch up the clippings and larger clumps.
Noted. Thank you.
Toro is the best one
Agreed!
My ❤ belongs to toro
We are sure TORO will take care of it. 🙂
I use the XHT blades