On 0:47 Christina and Ed are required to listen to the emergency alert system, since the train derailed at Millers Bend with fire and the Atomic Bomb building up an explosion.
It makes no sense to me how people would be walking around the city, since the radiation would spread about the city, but it could be possible that the wind blew the radiation in the other direction, but I'm not an expert in this part of science.
@Godzillaman /No, it wasnt his fault, the helicopter dropping the water into burning boxcar containing the bomb causing the liquid sodium that was leaking to ignite, explode, and set off the warhead
On 0:49 they said to evacuate the area immediately!!! Christina and Ed are NOT allowed to stay in the Denver Railway Control office building for this emergency alert to happen!!!!
Yeah your right, they said in part 5 or 6 that they were CHEAP, SIMPLE nukes from the Soviet Union. Even if the bomb was still able to detonate,some of the material would have been halved-life and been much less deadlier. But then were talking about a movie with "special effects". The only bomb that could do that would be a Tsar Bomba.
@Zappina /actually its not the material, its about the design of the weapon itself, and what kind of explosives youre using for the trigger. RDX, Composition 4, are what you use for the detonation of the deuterium, the deuterium fires the uranium projectile and sends it crashing into another uranium plate at the end of tube setting off the secondary explosion, you can even do that with a fission trigger too.
@@nicholasmedovich6729Or SEMTEX. THE Best thing about the conventional explosive triggers of today's nukes is that they can take a shit ton of abuse and nothing can set it off
I loved the blast in this movie. Perhaps the makers of "The Sum of All Fears" could have done a better job by showing the blast, instead of the hospital's windows being blown out, and the presidential motorcade being blown off of the road. They should have shown the stadium being vaporized.
it could be a dual stage (fission and fusion) the primary stage could've made of unstable explosive triggers. one point safe mean that you if the conventional explosive inside the weapon is detonated that odds of it producing a blast exceeding 1 ton of TNT
On 1:00 Christina and Ed have to get out of their OWN office right away!!! Also, Christina and Ed have to get out of the Denver Railway Control office building before they are going to die from the Atomic Bomb exploding through the Denver Railway Control office building!!!!
This scenario would not happen. A nuclear explosion cannot be caused by an explosion nearby because it wouldn't be powerful enough initiate a chain reaction. The chain reaction has to occur inside the device's core.
The blast is greatly exaggerated for the claimed size of the weapon and the distance from the city. Even a 1 megaton H-bomb would have negligible effects at 12 miles or more. Search for the video "QED -- A Guide To Armageddon".
@Godzillaman/Its about the volitility of the explosive triggers, and how unprotected they are from whatever could cause ignition and detonation. Or since it was chemicals that set that off the explosion it couldve been a chemical reaction. it could be anything really, like they said in the movie "they were built fast and they were built cheap". Its all about how that weapons firing systems were.
@derekwall82 /If anything itd be the high explosives, internal wiring, and whatever electrical systems used inside the weapon would be the stuff thatd rot away or wouldnt be any good to use after being in storage for so long. but if you can fire a nuclear warhead without the use of electrical energy, than thered be no expiration date for that kind of weapon or weapon trigger
Maybe when the explosions started going off, the guy who was trying to disarm the bomb was knocked into the firing mechanism-thing and accidentally set it off. Could that be?
Man, the second-half of the film should've been another movie! This film could've ended like Unstoppable, but of course, they had to make it so anti-climatic!
Acually depending on distance, the flash, that moves at the speed of light would be well ahead of the blast that moves at the speed of sound. Since they were for enough thta the flash did not kill them, the few second it took for them to take cover is not out of the question. Theoretically.
im from arvada CO and i know that the mountains are visible from where the east side, central, west side and downtown areas. which is possibly 15-20 miles but i could be wrong so dont quote me on the distance. and thankfully this country is smart enough to not transport live nukes on trains, these days we normally fly em under heavy guard. if youre gonna transport nukes, ship it in seperate pieces in different vehicles along different routes
have you checked out the blast scene in indiana jones and the kingdom of the chrystal skull, that looked and portrayed an actual nuclear detonation. and yeah they shouldve shown the stadium getting vaporized, that wouldve been cool
It just goes to show, neglegance, unsafe weapon transportation, lack of communciation, and greedy private government contractors were all the reason for that blast
well the amount of people that are likely to be killed by a nuclear blast is estimated by the kiloton and megaton. 1 kt can kill 10,000 people, 10 kts can kill 80,000-100,000, 1 megaton can kill as many as 1,000,000 people just with the blast and heat alone or they will die due to the amount of radiation from the fallout
okay, lets say that was a real situation, how far do you think the cameras position was from where the fireball was? the blast looked like it came out of the top or side mountains
That mustve been a low to medium yield weapon that exploded from how the blast looks. I will say that the special effects couldve portrayed the blast alittle better, but im not picky. If the people that had to look away when the device went off felt it was that bright, they wouldve been burned or vaporized by the flash, and heat blast
true, they would have only a few seconds to take cover before theyd be hit with an airblast packin winds of 600+mph, thats if they werent blinded or vaporized by the flash
3:04 How the hell did that guy survive the force of the nuke sent him flying into a car door, and he was sent flying another extra 30 feet, with other stuff hitting him.
@wileyk209zback /Thats true, but its how youre trigger, trigger ignition systems, and the overall bomb is designed, in the past weve used older weapon designs that weve rebuilt with safer firing systems. i met a person whos had to work with these devices in and has had to assemble them himself. It seems like alot of used-to-be-classified info is spilling out on the net these days
You know, this is interesting, how they show a bomb explosion show up as gasoline filled explosion. Nuke explosion is mostly burst of energy, pushing massive shockwave. Gosh that movie is so silly.
@Godzillaman /its hard to say. Since the detonation of "fat man", nuclear weapons were built better and safer. designs that are built with volitle high explosives, wiring thats not static resistant, or any other design flaws are the ones that are the most unstable. For example the little boy gunbarrel bomb design, that was a very simple to assemble design but, very unsafe with the way you hard arm and fire the weapon
This movie is full of smart A**es who thought they knew better. The pilot who ignored instructions, the fireman who wanted to speed up, the conductor who got back on the train to try to fix the brakes even though they were long gone, and the engineer who refused to slow down, ran over a conductor, smashed the caboose, and pushed the train over the edge of the divide, along with many others.
@MrMariofan7II /Nukes on trains, BAD IDEA AND A HALF. 1 it couldve been stolen, 2 what just happened in the movie with that idiot bradshaw guy sneaking that nuke onto a train knowing its a dangerous and unsafe bomb just to avoid the insurance. and 3 trains arent that ideal for weapon transportation.
There were a whole lot of chances to stop the train or prevent the explosion! 1) Uncopple the runaway's locomotives from the rest of the train so that the bomb car would coast to a stop. 2) Use a chopper to get the crew and the bomb off the train and call an air strike on it. 3) Use the handbrakes on the train's freight cars(they still had emergancy and dynamic brakes too!). 4) Extinguish the fires at the crash site with fire trucks instead of choppers(the choppers missed the flames). Stupid
Flaw 1 - it would roll down, break pipes damaged and the cargo is too heavy Flaw 2 - It would be very difficult to get on the chopper and not enough room, airstrike would make it derail causing the nuke to explode Flaw 3 - Same thing ( cargo too heavy, not enough time and broken brake pipes ) Flaw 4 - Sodium metal would explode and they would be stuck in traffic.
1 the rest of the trains would just go roll downhill, the scenes r shot at the canadian rockies and with no brakes from the locomotive it would go faster 2 it would destroy the envoirment faster and too risky 3 even with all the brakes the train is too heavy and theyre on a downhill slope just like the cajon pass derailment 4 firetrucks mostly use water and not a special chemical that does not react with the sodium
not even just equipment, they might have used their brains, if you didn't hear clearly but something sounded urgent, maybe you should stop what you are doing?!
7:30 holy motherfucking shitheads man. I'm lucky I'm a Washingtonian up here! I dont care if Japan's cars are washing up on our shores, I'm just glad that if that were to really happen, I'd be safe all the way up here. But then all them noob helicopters would disturb mah entertainment. Jesus Christ, I wouldn't even be able to play Harvest Moon 64.
On 0:47 Christina and Ed are required to listen to the emergency alert system, since the train derailed at Millers Bend with fire and the Atomic Bomb building up an explosion.
3:29 thats the power of concrete pipes lol
It makes no sense to me how people would be walking around the city, since the radiation would spread about the city, but it could be possible that the wind blew the radiation in the other direction, but I'm not an expert in this part of science.
@Godzillaman /No, it wasnt his fault, the helicopter dropping the water into burning boxcar containing the bomb causing the liquid sodium that was leaking to ignite, explode, and set off the warhead
On 0:58 of course the phone is ringing. Christina and Ed do NOT have time to answer the phone.
On 0:49 they said to evacuate the area immediately!!! Christina and Ed are NOT allowed to stay in the Denver Railway Control office building for this emergency alert to happen!!!!
Yeah your right, they said in part 5 or 6 that they were CHEAP, SIMPLE nukes from the Soviet Union. Even if the bomb was still able to detonate,some of the material would have been halved-life and been much less deadlier. But then were talking about a movie with "special effects". The only bomb that could do that would be a Tsar Bomba.
@Zappina /actually its not the material, its about the design of the weapon itself, and what kind of explosives youre using for the trigger. RDX, Composition 4, are what you use for the detonation of the deuterium, the deuterium fires the uranium projectile and sends it crashing into another uranium plate at the end of tube setting off the secondary explosion, you can even do that with a fission trigger too.
Don’t forget PETN
@@nicholasmedovich6729Or SEMTEX. THE Best thing about the conventional explosive triggers of today's nukes is that they can take a shit ton of abuse and nothing can set it off
I loved the blast in this movie. Perhaps the makers of "The Sum of All Fears" could have done a better job by showing the blast, instead of the hospital's windows being blown out, and the presidential motorcade being blown off of the road. They should have shown the stadium being vaporized.
2:11
Okay, that was pretty funny.
2:13 my exact nightmare. Just look at that mushroom cloud forming and listen to the sirens blaring. You can tell your dead
There's no way a smallish fission bomb would cause all that destruction at that distance.
it could be a dual stage (fission and fusion) the primary stage could've made of unstable explosive triggers. one point safe mean that you if the conventional explosive inside the weapon is detonated that odds of it producing a blast exceeding 1 ton of TNT
On 1:00 Christina and Ed have to get out of their OWN office right away!!! Also, Christina and Ed have to get out of the Denver Railway Control office building before they are going to die from the Atomic Bomb exploding through the Denver Railway Control office building!!!!
Remember seeing that twist when i was younger. Damn that was a huge slap in the face.
This scenario would not happen. A nuclear explosion cannot be caused by an explosion nearby because it wouldn't be powerful enough initiate a chain reaction. The chain reaction has to occur inside the device's core.
John Segar: Danny? Did you look at the blast?
Danny: I didn't look at any blast.
I said for sure
The blast is greatly exaggerated for the claimed size of the weapon and the distance from the city. Even a 1 megaton H-bomb would have negligible effects at 12 miles or more.
Search for the video "QED -- A Guide To Armageddon".
@Godzillaman/Its about the volitility of the explosive triggers, and how unprotected they are from whatever could cause ignition and detonation. Or since it was chemicals that set that off the explosion it couldve been a chemical reaction. it could be anything really, like they said in the movie "they were built fast and they were built cheap". Its all about how that weapons firing systems were.
If they were built fast and cheap, then it probably wouldn't have detonated at all!
@derekwall82 /If anything itd be the high explosives, internal wiring, and whatever electrical systems used inside the weapon would be the stuff thatd rot away or wouldnt be any good to use after being in storage for so long. but if you can fire a nuclear warhead without the use of electrical energy, than thered be no expiration date for that kind of weapon or weapon trigger
Not to mention all the jostling around in the train!
Maybe when the explosions started going off, the guy who was trying to disarm the bomb was knocked into the firing mechanism-thing and accidentally set it off. Could that be?
It’s not like you can ask him…
Man, the second-half of the film should've been another movie! This film could've ended like Unstoppable, but of course, they had to make it so anti-climatic!
Imagine if AVWR 777 pulled the atomic train and crashes like the atomic train
Acually depending on distance, the flash, that moves at the speed of light would be well ahead of the blast that moves at the speed of sound. Since they were for enough thta the flash did not kill them, the few second it took for them to take cover is not out of the question. Theoretically.
1:59-2:11 epic chain reaction and at 2:11 epic finish!
3:00 because the initial blast didnt kill them
im from arvada CO and i know that the mountains are visible from where the east side, central, west side and downtown areas. which is possibly 15-20 miles but i could be wrong so dont quote me on the distance. and thankfully this country is smart enough to not transport live nukes on trains, these days we normally fly em under heavy guard. if youre gonna transport nukes, ship it in seperate pieces in different vehicles along different routes
Let's hope we will never learn the hard way the definition of "being vaporized". You would simply disappear. Sobering thought!
Beyond 6th degree burns. IMHO
1:55 looks like the fireworks is about to begin the party!
have you checked out the blast scene in indiana jones and the kingdom of the chrystal skull, that looked and portrayed an actual nuclear detonation. and yeah they shouldve shown the stadium getting vaporized, that wouldve been cool
It just goes to show, neglegance, unsafe weapon transportation, lack of communciation, and greedy private government contractors were all the reason for that blast
The producers' complete lack of knowledge of rail transportation and nuclear weaponry were all the reason for that blast!
well the amount of people that are likely to be killed by a nuclear blast is estimated by the kiloton and megaton. 1 kt can kill 10,000 people, 10 kts can kill 80,000-100,000, 1 megaton can kill as many as 1,000,000 people just with the blast and heat alone or they will die due to the amount of radiation from the fallout
4:44, The burning city looks like the apocalypse. 🤯
It beacuse of B.L.E.V.E which was a toxic liquid in the bomb
@@user1651 what's a B.L.E.V.E.?
Still doesn't look as bad as the Lac-Mégantic disaster...
@@besnikzogaj9887 boiling liquid evaporating vapor explosion
Looks like a scene from Gears of War
okay, lets say that was a real situation, how far do you think the cameras position was from where the fireball was? the blast looked like it came out of the top or side mountains
Depends on distance and strength.
That mustve been a low to medium yield weapon that exploded from how the blast looks. I will say that the special effects couldve portrayed the blast alittle better, but im not picky. If the people that had to look away when the device went off felt it was that bright, they wouldve been burned or vaporized by the flash, and heat blast
@wileyk209zback it depends on the weapon, how it's made, and what is used to make it.
true, they would have only a few seconds to take cover before theyd be hit with an airblast packin winds of 600+mph, thats if they werent blinded or vaporized by the flash
3:04 How the hell did that guy survive the force of the nuke sent him flying into a car door, and he was sent flying another extra 30 feet, with other stuff hitting him.
13:18 is that fireman the same actor for the guy that fell off the train?
14:20 I would walk. Even though i probably would last only about 2-3 hours, it's worth being saved.
why does Denver keep attracting atomic bombs ?! LOL
@wileyk209zback /Thats true, but its how youre trigger, trigger ignition systems, and the overall bomb is designed, in the past weve used older weapon designs that weve rebuilt with safer firing systems. i met a person whos had to work with these devices in and has had to assemble them himself. It seems like alot of used-to-be-classified info is spilling out on the net these days
Smart kid. Because the electromagnetic pulse knocks out microchips....
You know, this is interesting, how they show a bomb explosion show up as gasoline filled explosion. Nuke explosion is mostly burst of energy, pushing massive shockwave.
Gosh that movie is so silly.
the train exploded first then the nuke
Hope there is a sequel to this film
I don't think there will be
Vehicle not working? Traffic? Flights Delayed? Take Amtrak, Trains of America...
...oh wait...
The trains are probably delayed because duh its amtrak
@@SalmanMentos I see you've found my 12 year old Comment!
14:38 Fail. Thats the most ridiculous replacement to a stretcher. Still, not bad.
really? from the looks of that blast, that was anything but little, after all it flattened a good chunk of the city and denver is a big city
@Zappina why do they call it a half life?
Part 9 out of 11 - bomb detonated, and yet there are 2 more parts to go! LOL! Cheesy!
Good movie
i feel sorry for the 2 guys in the chopper who dropped the water, its a safe bet both them and chopper were both atomized in a snap
Kelly Marx was also burned to the 5th and 6th degree. Also a fatality
@Godzillaman /its hard to say. Since the detonation of "fat man", nuclear weapons were built better and safer. designs that are built with volitle high explosives, wiring thats not static resistant, or any other design flaws are the ones that are the most unstable. For example the little boy gunbarrel bomb design, that was a very simple to assemble design but, very unsafe with the way you hard arm and fire the weapon
I thought that warheads couldn't detonate in an explosion like that? They can only go off if their internal triggers are armed.....
And those triggers must be set off in a very precise sequence!
4:44 looks like the intro to Gears of War
You just did it again
Yes exactly, I remember how annoyed I was when I saw it and knew what to do: P
What A Twist- Robot Chicken
Besides, an external explosion wouldn't detenate that nuke.
It could
8:35 Woah, man, how'd he do that.
The electromagnetic pulse thing i mean.
That would only happen if the bomb went off high in the atmosphere (higher than 80-140 miles altitude
Blame the freight train that had the bomb that exploded and obliterate most of Denvers capital city I think…
Famous quote for the guy that looks at the magnetic pulse: *oh god have mercy* 2:53
Ruben. Talk to me 1:12 I’m almost at the detonator.
What happened to the fallout? One minute it's there, the next minute it's not.
Big boom
5:00 did everyone turn into zombies???
No Most people survied the Meltdown and few of the people who live in denver died
GMTA! That's what i was thinking, too!
GMTA?
i agree i remember watching this and im thinking STUPID STUPID STUPID.
Oh King Tarsha
BIG MISTAKE at 1:49!!
Yeah, BIG MISTAKE!
Big Mistake on what?
@@jamesleopard8518dropping water on the sodium metal. Hence the term dangerous when wet
Also radio cut off with fatal feedback
@MrMariofan7II yea!! and IN COMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reminds me of 60 seconds
Wellp everybody died on the chopper 2:11
4:43 Dear fucking God that Terrifying
Not as terrifying as the Lac-Mégantic disaster!
@@jayo1212 yea
I wouldn't want 2 be in denver
Wait so I train is carrying a 10 feet nuke I need exploded
This movie is full of smart A**es who thought they knew better. The pilot who ignored instructions, the fireman who wanted to speed up, the conductor who got back on the train to try to fix the brakes even though they were long gone, and the engineer who refused to slow down, ran over a conductor, smashed the caboose, and pushed the train over the edge of the divide, along with many others.
Two pilots with the fire helicopter? Yes!
2:10, what happens when you look at Chuck Norris?
The nuke flame doesn’t travel that far
West Rail
wow talk about being anticlimatic
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@MrMariofan7II /Nukes on trains, BAD IDEA AND A HALF. 1 it couldve been stolen, 2 what just happened in the movie with that idiot bradshaw guy sneaking that nuke onto a train knowing its a dangerous and unsafe bomb just to avoid the insurance. and 3 trains arent that ideal for weapon transportation.
@Strasburg1991 Yeh! i remember when i so this for the first time and i just say...noooo don´t do that :P
That bastards destroys Denver Colorado for not listen including the avoid instructions!
I want that entire area contain and quarantine until we get some answers!
President Looks like If Steve Forbes had won the 1996 Republican primary and than election
I saw the movie. I believe they said from the beginning it was a little one....As little as nukes get.
So a we talking the one kilo ton back nuke right
B May at this point all I remember is that it was old and Soviet and poorly built.
OOPS.
9:15 stop with that creepy music! ITS TURNING INTO A HORROR VIDEO GAME! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
what's up with the russin ppl and dever ppl :/
Is illuminatism true
thank god russia and the US built nukes that contain a 1 point safe to keep accidents like this from happening
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swedish subtitles
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Wait, where's the fallout from the explosion?!?!?
It's. A. Movie.
I guess it fell out!
There were a whole lot of chances to stop the train or prevent the explosion!
1) Uncopple the runaway's locomotives from the rest of the train so that the bomb car would coast to a stop.
2) Use a chopper to get the crew and the bomb off the train and call an air strike on it.
3) Use the handbrakes on the train's freight cars(they still had emergancy and dynamic brakes too!).
4) Extinguish the fires at the crash site with fire trucks instead of choppers(the choppers missed the flames). Stupid
Flaw 1 - it would roll down, break pipes damaged and the cargo is too heavy
Flaw 2 - It would be very difficult to get on the chopper and not enough room, airstrike would make it derail causing the nuke to explode
Flaw 3 - Same thing ( cargo too heavy, not enough time and broken brake pipes )
Flaw 4 - Sodium metal would explode and they would be stuck in traffic.
Flaw 1 would be best if they had done this out 4920 behind runaway and uncouple west rail 642 and 644 and stop runaway
1 the rest of the trains would just go roll downhill, the scenes r shot at the canadian rockies and with no brakes from the locomotive it would go faster
2 it would destroy the envoirment faster and too risky
3 even with all the brakes the train is too heavy and theyre on a downhill slope just like the cajon pass derailment
4 firetrucks mostly use water and not a special chemical that does not react with the sodium
not even just equipment, they might have used their brains, if you didn't hear clearly but something sounded urgent, maybe you should stop what you are doing?!
7:30 holy motherfucking shitheads man. I'm lucky I'm a Washingtonian up here! I dont care if Japan's cars are washing up on our shores, I'm just glad that if that were to really happen, I'd be safe all the way up here. But then all them noob helicopters would disturb mah entertainment. Jesus Christ, I wouldn't even be able to play Harvest Moon 64.
10:26 and that is why i think my mom is a shithead
Yea, but it sure ruined the Superbowl!
Not possible, but still wondering... anything in a 5-10 mile radius would be incinerated by the heat jumping around 10 times the sun's temperature.
Torga Warflame not supposed to be that big a bomb