I love trains. I grew up on a farm in Ohio. One day the train (a field away) stopped. It was hot out and I took out some water for them. I was weird that way. The engineer (who turned out to be my schoolmate's uncle) took me aboard and showed me the engine. From then on, he blew his whistle whenever he passed by. I've never forgotten that. Just the simple things.
when a train approaches like that, it always feels like it's a dragon coming right at you, and then it can't be bothered with you and rushes past - nice sort of awe and prickly-scalp sensation
This video was taken from the south bound side of the Fremont station looking south to junction south of town. The train on the outside is likely going to go straight at the Niles Junction up ahead and go over the Altamont. The train closest will turn left at the Niles Junction and head up towards Oakland. BTW, for you rail fans, just up the track on the left is an old Heisler logging loco.
I live right next to this train station, and it is very busy. It is like a dream come true. But I’ve never seen something like this. Also shoutout to all of us still alive in 2020
Most the tracks that come through town here are double tracks and some are triple, but I never seen two trains like this side by side before... Great video
I've seen plenty of trains pass each other in opposing directions, got to say this is the first vid I've ever seen of two trains running in the same direction. Nice catch.
@PotentialDifference1 - It's called distributed power. Basically it helps keep the slack out of the train and makes it more efficient. The engineer can actually control that rear engine remotely. It's very common on our trains in the Midwest, especially on the UP.
I live in Midland, Tx, we get all freight with pusher and a rarity a middle pusher, We are the route from Long Beach dock and Allen Tx with Modula traffic. Been in love with trains since 4 or 5 yrs old. my mother's folk lived next 2 a little switch yard in Houston, TX off of Wayside and Navigation. The old Jax beer brewery down the street!!!!!!!
WOW! I've never seen 2 freights before like this at Fremont. Roughly a year ago I saw Amtrak #14 the Coast Starlight overtake a stack train the exact sane way the manifest overtook the intermodal train. Great catch!
Helpers are manned. They are used in the mountain areas where extra power or braking effort is needed for a short time on steep grades with heavy trains. What you see in the here is called a DPU (Distributed Power Unit.) It is unmanned and controlled from the head end. It will stay with the train the entire trip and it's primary purpose is to relieve some of the strain on the couplers on the front of the train allowing for longer consists. They are mostly used on hilly, uneven terrain.
both trains are headed westbound. the intermodal will probably turn south and head towards the coast sub; the mixed freight will turn north and service customers on an industrial spur that runs west of the north/south UP main running along the 880.
The sound is not brakes, it is the flange on the wheels against the rail in the curve. There is usually a wheel greaser before a curve to keep the flange from going over the rail.
You want to talk about scary, that actually happened to me once when videoing a CSX coal train. I was on the center platform and a waiting for the SB OUC coal train to roll by, then all of a sudden I hear horns behind me from the crossing about 2500' away, before I could move, here comes the SB Coal Train and now I have a NB Intermodal passing me on the other side. That was one experience I'll never forget, and of all things,I neglected to hit the shutter button on the camera and missed it.
I live next to the train station in Chicago. I literally have to sleep with ear plugs in my ears to get some Zzz`s. I don`t know wtf am i watching this for. Like as if i don`t get enough of this every day... haha
Hard to imagine this in Fremont. Having grown up there, the only double track mainline I know of is the five miles between Newark to Niles (only double-tracked since UP). I suppose if the manifest train is heading over Altamont on the former WP and the stack train is turning left toward Oakland (in Niles), it makes sense. Interesting. Also, why is a container train coming up from San Jose? Did it come up from LA? Why run a container train from one container port (LA) to another (Oakland)?
its the flanges on the wheels, as the train goes around a curve the force wants to keep the car going forward, but the wheel flanges stop it.sometimes the wheels are not perfectly parallel to the track and that can cause that scraping sound,tracks where the guage is too small can also cause that sound,on cuves if its bad enough it can cause a derailment.
I can imagine an elderly couple sitting at the crossing: "Honey, there's two trains coming and it looks like they're racing each other!" "Dang hotrodding teenagers!"
That's a fantastic catch and a great video, well done. I'm coming to America when i retire in a few years, what i would give to come upon a scene like this eh!
looks very nice two trains moving at the same way ..it does not means are racing but its very rare see when both are matching the same coordinated time...
Okay, the intermodal has a loco at the end of the train, Haven't seen that before, usually both are in the front of the train. So yes, there are two loco's, I just was typing my previous response and didn't see the end of the Intermodal train, not realizing there was a loco at the end of the train. That was quite interesting.
Can you imagine what the conversation between the train crews was? Intermodal train-"Ha! I'm beating you!" Mixed frieght-"No, I'm BEATING you!" Intermodal train-"I'm a hotshot, my load is lighter and I'm STILL BEATING you!" Mixed frieght-"I'm stronger than you; your train is nothing but a candy-ass forwardier." Intermodal train-"Jealous crybaby." Mixed frieght-"Stuck-up pansy!"
that must be an Amtrak station your filming at, cause it looks almost exactly what the Amtrak station in my small town looks like (Lodi, CA) - minus the curve. Even the light post are exact along with the waiting areas
this video is geat!!! it's a dream for all of us to see somethng like that!! I also have a similar video but the trains runs at 40 and 180km/h so they're near for some seconds... Thumbs UP!
3:53 - "Damn, we're 1 wagon short, maybe if we re-arrange the ones we have this container would fit?" - "Nah screw it, let's just stick it on those 2 little ones, it'll be fine..." and it was...
Amazing how the train on the right keeps up with the other train considering it's pulling a mega load although it's got a couple locos helping, not even sure if those single traditional 3500hp diesels can haul that much weight by itself.
I bet you don't see that everyday....btw, seeing as how you're talking DPUs, BHP over here in Australia run 3 sets of DPUs in pairs (6 locos) on their iron ore trains with only 1 engineer.
yeah i noticed this myself; i didnt count the cars but I noticed the longer train had less locos than the shorter one. Maybe the shorter one was picking up more cars.
Fremont WHERE!!?? There;s a Fremont NE that has UP trains and Fremont California that has UP trans. It wasn't until you pulled back that I saw the Centerville depot id'ing this location as the Centerville Main that runs east-west through Fremont California. My other question then is where were these two going? On north to Oakland and the other east through Niles Canyon? I dunno. A little more info would make the clip much more interesting. .
This reminds me of "Thomas and Bertie's Great Race". The train on my left is like the modern day version of Thomas the Tank Engine, while the other one on my right is Bertie the Bus.
Better look again, the train in the lead coming out of the curve has two loco's in the lead, the other one slightly back when it rounds the curve only has 1 loco in the lead.
Nice footage. Seems odd to see one engine pulling with all those flatbeds loaded with cargo containers, and then see one engine pusher on back. Must have been empty freight containers. Otherwise I could see 2-3 engines on front and 1-2 on back. Thanks!
The mixed freight had the advantage because it had two units, it was more aerodynamic, and had the inside curve. But I doubt the last two would make much of a difference.
that depends, I know around here you still see manned Helpers, but a lot of places they don't!!! Of course, around here the need for helpers isn't seen as much anymore, I guess these newer engines have enough power to pull the trains without needing extra power because its less common in the past few yrs, the workshop in town doesn't house many units anymore More important, why not have both units on the front? lol
The fact which both trains blew their horns together as they entered the crossing together was simply wonderful and beyond belief awesome.
What’s even better is that UP only runs like 5-10 freight trains a day through there
So to see them race is crazy rare he has gold footage
I love trains. I grew up on a farm in Ohio. One day the train (a field away) stopped. It was hot out and I took out some water for them. I was weird that way. The engineer (who turned out to be my schoolmate's uncle) took me aboard and showed me the engine. From then on, he blew his whistle whenever he passed by. I've never forgotten that. Just the simple things.
Oh that's not weird at all,that's just being a thoughtful and kind human being.Blessings.
Thank you!
Thats awesome
Thats not weird at all. Thats actually a very nice gesture from you. And thats a lovely story.
thats awesome
Awesome catch!
Hi!
when a train approaches like that, it always feels like it's a dragon coming right at you, and then it can't be bothered with you and rushes past - nice sort of awe and prickly-scalp sensation
This video was taken from the south bound side of the Fremont station looking south to junction south of town. The train on the outside is likely going to go straight at the Niles Junction up ahead and go over the Altamont. The train closest will turn left at the Niles Junction and head up towards Oakland. BTW, for you rail fans, just up the track on the left is an old Heisler logging loco.
even after 13 years its still one of the best train races ive seen
Thanks, agreed!
I live right next to this train station, and it is very busy. It is like a dream come true. But I’ve never seen something like this. Also shoutout to all of us still alive in 2020
Brilliant video, you don't see often two freight trains overtaking each other.
I grew up in Fremont and still work there. Awesome!
Dude you are so lucky! That's an awesome catch!!!!! 5 stars and a fav! Incredible!
No matter how many times I've watched this video, it never gets old!
another reason we in England love the USA. Your trains
Great footage, and great timing, seeing both trains roar through at the same time.
Here I was looking for train vids and this little jewel from back home in the Bay Area pops up!
Thanks.
Most the tracks that come through town here are double tracks and some are triple, but I never seen two trains like this side by side before... Great video
WAIT UNTIL CHRISTMAS EVE, I HAVE SEEN THEM DRAG RACE 2 TRAINS COMPLETELY ACROSS IOWA HAPPENS ALMOST EVERY YEAR
Nicely Done, nothing beats a exciting race between big brute engines such as these.
I've seen plenty of trains pass each other in opposing directions, got to say this is the first vid I've ever seen of two trains running in the same direction. Nice catch.
@PotentialDifference1 - It's called distributed power. Basically it helps keep the slack out of the train and makes it more efficient. The engineer can actually control that rear engine remotely. It's very common on our trains in the Midwest, especially on the UP.
That was some CRAZY zooming man ! Awesome !
I live in Midland, Tx, we get all freight with pusher and a rarity a middle pusher, We are the route from Long Beach dock and Allen Tx with Modula traffic. Been in love with trains since 4 or 5 yrs old. my mother's folk lived next 2 a little switch yard in Houston, TX off of Wayside and Navigation. The old Jax beer brewery down the street!!!!!!!
WOW! I've never seen 2 freights before like this at Fremont. Roughly a year ago I saw Amtrak #14 the Coast Starlight overtake a stack train the exact sane way the manifest overtook the intermodal train. Great catch!
Now that's something you don't see very often. Thanks!
Thanks, rare for both trains to come at the same time
Helpers are manned. They are used in the mountain areas where extra power or braking effort is needed for a short time on steep grades with heavy trains. What you see in the here is called a DPU (Distributed Power Unit.) It is unmanned and controlled from the head end. It will stay with the train the entire trip and it's primary purpose is to relieve some of the strain on the couplers on the front of the train allowing for longer consists. They are mostly used on hilly, uneven terrain.
both trains are headed westbound. the intermodal will probably turn south and head towards the coast sub; the mixed freight will turn north and service customers on an industrial spur that runs west of the north/south UP main running along the 880.
The sound is not brakes, it is the flange on the wheels against the rail in the curve. There is usually a wheel greaser before a curve to keep the flange from going over the rail.
Superb catch ! 👍🏻
Awesome catch catching this up race with these 2 different race
That was freaking awesome! I would have loved to see that in person!
You want to talk about scary, that actually happened to me once when videoing a CSX coal train. I was on the center platform and a waiting for the SB OUC coal train to roll by, then all of a sudden I hear horns behind me from the crossing about 2500' away, before I could move, here comes the SB Coal Train and now I have a NB Intermodal passing me on the other side. That was one experience I'll never forget, and of all things,I neglected to hit the shutter button on the camera and missed it.
I live next to the train station in Chicago. I literally have to sleep with ear plugs in my ears to get some Zzz`s. I don`t know wtf am i watching this for. Like as if i don`t get enough of this every day... haha
They're both equally exciting.
Who would of ever thought? Thank you for sharing...
Hard to imagine this in Fremont. Having grown up there, the only double track mainline I know of is the five miles between Newark to Niles (only double-tracked since UP). I suppose if the manifest train is heading over Altamont on the former WP and the stack train is turning left toward Oakland (in Niles), it makes sense. Interesting.
Also, why is a container train coming up from San Jose? Did it come up from LA? Why run a container train from one container port (LA) to another (Oakland)?
WOW! That's slicker than snot on a doorknob. Great video and long shots.
the first time to I have a great weekend too late
its the flanges on the wheels, as the train goes around a curve the force wants to keep the car going forward, but the wheel flanges stop it.sometimes the wheels are not perfectly parallel to the track and that can cause that scraping sound,tracks where the guage is too small can also cause that sound,on cuves if its bad enough it can cause a derailment.
I bet the crew was having a blast. Must be fun for em when this type of stuff happens ^.^
I can imagine an elderly couple sitting at the crossing:
"Honey, there's two trains coming and it looks like they're racing each other!"
"Dang hotrodding teenagers!"
That's a fantastic catch and a great video, well done. I'm coming to America when i retire in a few years, what i would give to come upon a scene like this eh!
Thanks; worth watching more than once!
I bet that shook the town for a while! Great catch!
Where have you been? Helpers are connected electronically and can easily be controlled from the lead unit and even remotely through remote control.
Nice video. Union Pacific C45ACCTE LOCOMOTIVE RACES AND K5HL HORNS
looks very nice two trains moving at the same way ..it does not means are racing but its very rare see when both are matching the same coordinated time...
great show very graceful as the loco rounds the corner
Great Catch! I live in Fremont. Go to that train station a lot
WOW!!! You were in the right place at the right time, great catch!!!
What state is this in? I know of several Freemonts.
Good job zooming in then out as the trains came closer.
Great catch!
We're talking about long trains in Norway. That's nothing compared to this.
God, imagine if you'd been able to get between them. The visuals would be amazing! (and *dangerous!*)
That's trespassing.
Dynamite! Even double-stacked! Thank you.
Luckily the train on the inside had the edge so you got them both in the shot. Pretty sweet!
Okay, the intermodal has a loco at the end of the train, Haven't seen that before, usually both are in the front of the train. So yes, there are two loco's, I just was typing my previous response and didn't see the end of the Intermodal train, not realizing there was a loco at the end of the train. That was quite interesting.
That dispatcher must have been having fun at that moment. Pretty cool
Can you imagine what the conversation between the train crews was?
Intermodal train-"Ha! I'm beating you!"
Mixed frieght-"No, I'm BEATING you!"
Intermodal train-"I'm a hotshot, my load is lighter and I'm STILL BEATING you!"
Mixed frieght-"I'm stronger than you; your train is nothing but a candy-ass forwardier."
Intermodal train-"Jealous crybaby."
Mixed frieght-"Stuck-up pansy!"
that must be an Amtrak station your filming at, cause it looks almost exactly what the Amtrak station in my small town looks like (Lodi, CA) - minus the curve. Even the light post are exact along with the waiting areas
very nice now that is rail frieght at its best just think how many trucks that one train has kept off the inter state highways
this video is geat!!! it's a dream for all of us to see somethng like that!! I also have a similar video but the trains runs at 40 and 180km/h so they're near for some seconds... Thumbs UP!
Yes, it's pushing it. It's called a helper. it's remote controlled from the lead locomotive.
yeah, it was really awesome, thanks!
Both had two, the intermodal just had its two in a DPU setup with one front and one rear
Tra-... Thploot. I just passed out because this is EPIC!
That’s awesome. You don’t see stuff like that every day
3:53 - "Damn, we're 1 wagon short, maybe if we re-arrange the ones we have this container would fit?" - "Nah screw it, let's just stick it on those 2 little ones, it'll be fine..."
and it was...
Amazing how the train on the right keeps up with the other train considering it's pulling a mega load although it's got a couple locos helping, not even sure if those single traditional 3500hp diesels can haul that much weight by itself.
Actually the engines have 4400hp. Times have changed. But yes, still very impressive
That never gets old.
Nice zoom on that camera of yours. You had me wondering where exactly you were standing with those trains barreling towards you, lol!
Nothing like a good ole fashioned train race on the back stretch.
Finally! Now they only have to block the road once to allow two trains to go through!
OMG totally love it. pure deisel. can,t wait to go back to the USA and see more real trains. keep taking vid,s bud
Very cool, something I have never seen, great catch!
These train videos are good two trains double good
Fantastisch om te zien.
I love that metallic scraping sound.
I bet you don't see that everyday....btw, seeing as how you're talking DPUs, BHP over here in Australia run 3 sets of DPUs in pairs (6 locos) on their iron ore trains with only 1 engineer.
@PilotKev170 It seemed like there was a steam engine in there somewhere, no?
yeah i noticed this myself; i didnt count the cars but I noticed the longer train had less locos than the shorter one. Maybe the shorter one was picking up more cars.
Fremont WHERE!!?? There;s a Fremont NE that has UP trains and Fremont California that has UP trans. It wasn't until you pulled back that I saw the Centerville depot id'ing this location as the Centerville Main that runs east-west through Fremont California. My other question then is where were these two going? On north to Oakland and the other east through Niles Canyon? I dunno. A little more info would make the clip much more interesting.
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Once-in-a-lifetime shot!
This reminds me of "Thomas and Bertie's Great Race". The train on my left is like the modern day version of Thomas the Tank Engine, while the other one on my right is Bertie the Bus.
Better look again, the train in the lead coming out of the curve has two loco's in the lead, the other one slightly back when it rounds the curve only has 1 loco in the lead.
Dam ! 151 train wagons for the right train :D
155
Great catch!
Well done!
Nice seeing Southern Railway tech still at work, but I was always told you can't put DPU's on the back of intermodals.
they had the same amount of locos.The Stack train just used the second unit as a DPU.
I have seen a similar scenario one time just a few months back here in Missouri on a UP line
One word.
AWESOME!!!!!!!
Pretty potent zoom!
One engineer to the other: "Hey, stop it! no f*** you i'm honking!!! Shut up over there!!!!"
you should put the camera on a tripod right in the midle of the tracks :)
Great Job !! I can see why the one on the left was ahead -- lol.
A single 6-axel on that stack train? Must be a very level territory to run just one!
!!!!!!!! Great catch!
great video, I'm surprised the union pacific would schedule these freights together..
Impressive catch!
so why do they put an engine at the back of the train? i notice there is usually one engine in the back
No, it's a DPU. It pushes while the lead pulls.
Nice footage. Seems odd to see one engine pulling with all those flatbeds loaded with cargo containers, and then see one engine pusher on back. Must have been empty freight containers. Otherwise I could see 2-3 engines on front and 1-2 on back. Thanks!
The mixed freight had the advantage because it had two units, it was more aerodynamic, and had the inside curve. But I doubt the last two would make much of a difference.
that depends, I know around here you still see manned Helpers, but a lot of places they don't!!! Of course, around here the need for helpers isn't seen as much anymore, I guess these newer engines have enough power to pull the trains without needing extra power because its less common in the past few yrs, the workshop in town doesn't house many units anymore
More important, why not have both units on the front? lol