How GOOD were Rhydon & Rhyperior ACTUALLY? - History of Rhydon & Rhyperior in Competitive Pokemon

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  • Rhydon! The Drill Pokemon! How good was the first Pokemon to ever be created? Join False Swipe Gaming in this brief overview of Rhydon & Rhyperior to find out!
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    Notice I said POPULAR formats, meaning a format where there is a significant amount of people who compete in it for tournaments and so on and so forth. Now Popular does not mean official even though two of the formats I will be covering were official formats being Japan Nintendo Cup and VGC, but it is an indicator of what a good portion of competitive players thought was “optimal” at the time. Also sometimes the Pokemon Battle Historia doesn't provide enough information to talk about certain Pokemon so I add Smogon analysis to make sense of it. This is pretty rare though.
    To the people asking why I don't cover Smogon Singles for Gens 1 and 2: It wouldn't really be a history video if I covered those because online Smogon gen 1 meta to my knowledge wasn't actually played until late 2000s. I wanted to cover tournaments/competitive battling that was actually played during the early years of Pokemon (late 90s).
    To the people asking why I cover Smogon at all for singles: To my knowledge, Smogon was the most popular format for Gens 3-5 and held a number of tournaments throughout the years. As for Gen 6, I am not covering Battle Spot Singles because there is more information and explanations about sets being used relative to their own meta on Smogon. In other words, there are few written analyses about Battle Spot Pokemon besides the Top tiers and I would like to avoid theorycrafting because it may have a hint of bias (though I theorycraft if I REALLY couldn't find information on a certain Pokemon). The keyword here is explanations. Though I did find statistics of most Pokemon used and most moves used, there wasn't really any explanations on why. Also the few Pokemon I did find analysis of for Top Tier Battle Spot Singles had very similar move sets to the Smogon OU sets anyway.
    For the record, I do not care what rules or formats people play their battles by nor am I saying these formats are the only formats that should be played. The way you play Pokemon is between you and your opponent and I will not fault you for using evasion or whatever, I just like examining popular tournament formats.
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  • @FalseSwipeGaming
    @FalseSwipeGaming  7 років тому +1897

    Whoops. Totally meant to say mega drain in gen 1 for exeguttor not giga drain. Giga drain wasn't out yet

  • @lorddarkrai5753
    @lorddarkrai5753 4 роки тому +689

    Rhyperior: My Attack , HP and Defense are so high nothing is going to stop me.
    Grass Knot: I'm about to end this man's whole career

    • @tomety_tcg2073
      @tomety_tcg2073 4 роки тому +21

      Solid rock ability:Hi

    • @rhen09calonzo64
      @rhen09calonzo64 4 роки тому +29

      But when trick room comes
      Im about to end this man's career

    • @lorddarkrai5753
      @lorddarkrai5753 4 роки тому +7

      @@rhen09calonzo64 Not if the opposing Pokemon is holding an Iron Ball or a Lagging Tail

    • @rhen09calonzo64
      @rhen09calonzo64 4 роки тому +1

      Okay then lets see hmmmm
      Sticky web boi

    • @machina5
      @machina5 4 роки тому +73

      @@tomety_tcg2073 Solid Rock isn't going to keep it's 55 SpDef ass from dying to a 120 power special grass move lmao

  • @ShadyHitchhiker
    @ShadyHitchhiker 7 років тому +2058

    The Dinosaurs weren't nerfed, but the meta-game changed to be heavily weather focused after the Giant Meteor update, and they were at a big disadvantage during Persistent Ash Cloud.
    Competitive players started running small critter teams because of their smaller upkeep costs and Dinosaur users transitioned into maining small feathered birds instead.

    • @dlaek3906
      @dlaek3906 7 років тому +21

      ShadyHitchhiker haha

    • @IceSpoon
      @IceSpoon 7 років тому +191

      That was the most pokémon-esque explanation of dinos' extinction ever lol

    • @josi2407
      @josi2407 7 років тому +46

      upkeep cost? are we talking magic here?

    • @joshhemm
      @joshhemm 7 років тому +5

      ayyy

    • @cameroncurrent2383
      @cameroncurrent2383 7 років тому +5

      Thyd Simon lol yep

  • @andrewlee7755
    @andrewlee7755 5 років тому +469

    If it got a mega, it should become a full ground type. If it stays a rock/ground type, it would need speed to be super effective.

    • @Nosretep
      @Nosretep 4 роки тому +43

      Not it doesn't
      Mega Rhyperior
      Ability Sandstream
      115
      160
      150
      55
      105
      50
      Get's a Sp.Def Boost off of Sandstorms.

    • @andrewlee7755
      @andrewlee7755 4 роки тому +82

      @@Nosretep In a game where firepower is ever increasing, simply maxing out stats with a bad defensive typing isn't going to cut it. And what happens when they cancel the sandstorm? I'm not saying that your idea would be bad, with good stats like that and sandstream it would be very good. But why bother using it when there are better options? It would always play second fiddle to Mega Tyranitar.

    • @Nosretep
      @Nosretep 4 роки тому +5

      @@andrewlee7755 Then give it Contrary with Superpower.

    • @andrewlee7755
      @andrewlee7755 4 роки тому +37

      @@Nosretep We can't just keep throwing abilities at it and expect them to stick, especially if they aren't thematic. Why not just give every pokemon contrary then?

    • @Nosretep
      @Nosretep 4 роки тому +5

      @@andrewlee7755 Why does Regirock get Clear Body,Traunt Durant,Defeatiat Archeops,Limber Stunfisk,Levitate Rotom-Fan? A lot of Pokemon get abilities that don't make sense or a borderline useless. Heck Serperior even has Contrary.

  • @Antoncool3000
    @Antoncool3000 4 роки тому +304

    1:54 WHAT THE FRICK ARE THOSE EYES

    • @werh227
      @werh227 4 роки тому +117

      Getting high on his own supply

    • @milosherino
      @milosherino 4 роки тому +7

      LOLOL!

    • @joehawaiianbathtoba9429
      @joehawaiianbathtoba9429 4 роки тому +8

      He’s high

    • @guardian4452
      @guardian4452 4 роки тому +14

      First time?

    • @shady8045
      @shady8045 4 роки тому +8

      i remember one poketuber (i forget her name) complaining about that and saying that was why venasaur was her least favorite, it kinda made me sad but i guess i can kinda understand.

  • @MegaSuperfatguy
    @MegaSuperfatguy 2 роки тому +73

    I used to use Rhyperior as my "dragon buster" before fairy typing came out. Bred it with solid rock and Dragon Rush. More than one person accused me of hacking Dragon Rush onto it since they didn't know you could breed the move onto Rhyhorn. Also worked great for fighting Cynthia.

  • @user-rf5px3gh3p
    @user-rf5px3gh3p 5 років тому +250

    1:54 i guess venusaur’s got a different type of leaf on its back...

  • @orshteinbok7762
    @orshteinbok7762 4 роки тому +186

    This vid honestly needs a remake, Rhyperiors gen 8 VGC dominance cannot be ignored

    • @gamechanger700
      @gamechanger700 4 роки тому +12

      Too bad Urshifu and Rillaboom ruined it's dominance

    • @goldenhydreigon4727
      @goldenhydreigon4727 3 роки тому +31

      @@gamechanger700
      Weezing: Sup?
      Everyone: Weezing? Pfft, that's not a threa- WAIT IT HAS NEUTRALIZING GAS!
      *Regigigas: My body is Regi.*

    • @haka-katyt7439
      @haka-katyt7439 3 роки тому +2

      @@goldenhydreigon4727 yeah the big G is now a threat in vgc

    • @hellothere4892
      @hellothere4892 2 роки тому +1

      @@goldenhydreigon4727 Ah yes, A fellow connoisseur. Terminal Montage I presume ?

  • @gengarzilla1685
    @gengarzilla1685 3 роки тому +182

    I'm thinking this episode needs a remake. I haven't fully looked into how it happened, but Rhyperior got into OU in Gen 8. It'd definitely be good to see Kellen chat about.

    • @dramaticScar
      @dramaticScar 3 роки тому +18

      Also Rhydon has a a lot of usage with an eviolite...

    • @Smart1529
      @Smart1529 3 роки тому +16

      Yeah this Pokemon has a good run in Gen 8, ever since they got rid of Hidden power which benefits special attackers and of course cutting some of the Pokemon from the game. It really helped it to the point it had high usage. Plus we cannot ignore what it did in early Sword and Shield VGC

    • @RobinBooze468
      @RobinBooze468 2 роки тому +3

      And Rhydon with eviolite was way better than Rhyperior in gen 5 VGC, it had way more placements in 2013

    • @jofujino
      @jofujino Рік тому +3

      I'm not sure about how it ran in singles, but at least in doubles Rhypherior was way stronger in Gen 8 because of the combination of weakness policy and dynamax. It was one of the best weakness policy users, and terrifying when you got it off under trick room even with a bulky water since so many bulky waters could be OHKOed by a dynamax move even after one intimidate.

  • @akhilesh368
    @akhilesh368 4 роки тому +782

    Just wait till gen 8 Rhyperior, you'll finally shine.

    • @rhinastocroc-boulet5189
      @rhinastocroc-boulet5189 4 роки тому +88

      He need some buffs though.
      (Solid Rock Amelioration(50% reduction instead of 25%), A recovery move, Special defence boost, make Rock Wrecker viable)
      And nothing for Rhydon because he's a idiot. (Ok, maybe give him Head Smash, but that's it)

    • @SSJ2Pikachu
      @SSJ2Pikachu 3 роки тому +67

      @@rhinastocroc-boulet5189 Why are you insulting Rhydon?

    • @rhinastocroc-boulet5189
      @rhinastocroc-boulet5189 3 роки тому +21

      @@SSJ2Pikachu(Wait, Pikachu can be a Super Sayian?? Weird.)
      But, for your question...
      (I think Rhydon is the worst member of his evolution line, that's it)

    • @SSJ2Pikachu
      @SSJ2Pikachu 3 роки тому +14

      @@rhinastocroc-boulet5189 It can't be that bad to insult it.

    • @rhinastocroc-boulet5189
      @rhinastocroc-boulet5189 3 роки тому +14

      @@SSJ2Pikachu It was not serious.

  • @mohanadalameer3482
    @mohanadalameer3482 7 років тому +706

    Maybe you can do flygon?
    Don't mind my profile picture that is just a coincidence

    • @clodcat5550
      @clodcat5550 7 років тому +8

      Shiny:Hi!

    • @misha2274
      @misha2274 7 років тому +14

      Mohanad Alameer you LIER!!!!!!!

    • @szkonk
      @szkonk 7 років тому +4

      Mohanad Alameer yassss

    • @megaflygon1348
      @megaflygon1348 7 років тому +23

      wow I looked at this comment thought I typed it.

    • @mohanadalameer3482
      @mohanadalameer3482 7 років тому +18

      Mega Flygon! And I thought I was the only flygon fan here
      Good thing I was wrong

  • @TheStrongestBaka
    @TheStrongestBaka 7 років тому +153

    YOUR HORN IS THE DRILL THAT WILL PIERCE THE HEAVENS!
    W-what do you say, Horn Drill is banned? Smogon confirmed for anti-spirals.

  • @Blade-hf9po
    @Blade-hf9po 6 років тому +48

    I remember using Rhyperior sometimes in Gen 4. That thing could tank anything Physical you threw at it, and with solid rock I mean anything.

    • @INTJ791
      @INTJ791 Рік тому +1

      hippowdon is better physical tank, less weakness

    • @spiciestbirb
      @spiciestbirb 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@INTJ791also slack off. If rhyperior had slack off there's an OK chance it could be DPP OU

  • @avalonaiii7177
    @avalonaiii7177 6 років тому +635

    rhydon deez nuts

  • @tpsplatinum3562
    @tpsplatinum3562 6 років тому +28

    I really love the look of the battles in Colosseum and XD Gale of Darkness. They cook dark and gritty, and I enjoy that ascetic.

  • @pokeplayerHQ
    @pokeplayerHQ 7 років тому +38

    Even in Gen 7, an Assault Vest Rhyperior has proven to be good in a Doubles Trick Room team. It has proven to be a great late game sweeper for me.

  • @sersmiles1635
    @sersmiles1635 7 років тому +341

    Herracross pls

  • @corenlavolpe6143
    @corenlavolpe6143 7 років тому +130

    Crobat please. We've all been waiting for the first bat mon!

  • @shabibmahab
    @shabibmahab 6 років тому +86

    I’ve used Rhyperior for so long that I forgot how awesome Rhydon is too

    • @Smart1529
      @Smart1529 4 роки тому +24

      There is still a part of me that thinks Rhydon didn't need an evolution because it has good stats and moves but at the same time I'm fine with Rhyperior. Some people just need to get over some Pokémon due to appearance and just appreciate why they were even there in the first place. Not every Pokémon gets rewarded with an evolution look at Ledian and Ariados

    • @RBatman5000
      @RBatman5000 4 роки тому +6

      @@Smart1529, I think it does deserve it, because unlike those bugs, rhydon was meant to be good

    • @thecriticalghost4626
      @thecriticalghost4626 4 роки тому

      @@Smart1529 No

    • @Smart1529
      @Smart1529 4 роки тому +1

      @@thecriticalghost4626 what do you mean no. No that you don't like a certain Pokemon by looks or what?

    • @thecriticalghost4626
      @thecriticalghost4626 4 роки тому

      @@Smart1529 no

  • @BoggarthVT
    @BoggarthVT 4 роки тому +107

    He's a trick room God in gen 8 vgc.

    • @Nonikt
      @Nonikt 4 роки тому +20

      He is a beast. Too bad rillaboom and tsareena put him to the ground with a grassy Glide. Not to mention busted Urshifu, especially rapid style. That thing should be banned. His ability and his signature move are broken. A 3 hitting, substitute Buster, 100% guaranteed crits move that bypasses protect is not okay.

    • @uhdudhue6549
      @uhdudhue6549 4 роки тому +25

      Nonikt urshifu needs to be banned not only in VGC, but in the Geneva convention under crimes against humanity as well.

    • @harshjain3122
      @harshjain3122 4 роки тому

      @@Nonikt ikr?

    • @r3io4mf
      @r3io4mf 4 роки тому

      I used metal burst to cheese random rillabooms and toxapex, even better if hippowdon was there as well

    • @r3io4mf
      @r3io4mf 4 роки тому +2

      @@Nonikt the worse one is single style, it turns from weak to psychic to scares the living daylights out of psychics

  • @diogomontesso6970
    @diogomontesso6970 7 років тому +151

    It's a sad fate for my one of my favourite Rock type pokemon but, eh, No helping the meta I guess. Here's hoping for some more info on pokemon who were very potent in Gen 2,, like Heracross, Marowak, Cloyster... Mostly heracross for now.

  • @sammydray5919
    @sammydray5919 7 років тому +295

    How about Heracross?? :]

    • @addition2127
      @addition2127 7 років тому

      Sammy Dray yes!

    • @4ever430
      @4ever430 7 років тому +2

      Silverheracross gaming yes for heracross is a good idea.

    • @Maliviolent
      @Maliviolent 7 років тому

      HE-RA-CROSS HE-RA-CROSS HE-RA-CROSS (Chanting)

    • @ErraticMagics
      @ErraticMagics 7 років тому +5

      Please let this win instead of freaking Shuckle.

    • @Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective
      @Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective 7 років тому +13

      Well that shouldn't be too hard. :)
      Gen II = Meh (Mediocre movepool)
      Gen III = Smash and Smash and Smash, oh did someone day choice band?
      Gen IV = Close Combat, you say? Smash and Smash and Smash.
      Gen V = My how times have changed... SMASH AND SMASH AND SMASH AND SMASH!
      Gen VI =

  • @kate2582
    @kate2582 7 років тому +32

    Why does venasaur look high in generation 1?

  • @LionsEatNoobs
    @LionsEatNoobs 7 років тому +12

    Holy shit. I never knew that normal types were immune to body slam's paralysis effect

  • @mrdanthesnowman
    @mrdanthesnowman 7 років тому +13

    Rhyperior has been my favorite of the new evolutions they introduced in Gen 4.

  • @krispyboi2519
    @krispyboi2519 4 роки тому +11

    I remember playing pokemon colosseum with my cousin, he nearly swept my team and i could only knock out his Mewtwo, his other pokemon were Electabuzz Zapdos Moltres Articuno and Charizard. I swept the rest of his team without taking any damage now Rhydon is my favorite pokemon.

  • @mrinfinity5557
    @mrinfinity5557 7 років тому +645

    shuckle, dont fuckle with shuckle

  • @Jacob-jg6cd
    @Jacob-jg6cd 3 роки тому +5

    The first Pokémon and still one of the coolest designs. They had the right idea making early Pokémon more dinosaur themed.

  • @b99b12
    @b99b12 7 років тому +340

    How GOOD was Delibird ACTUALLY?

    • @PinClockFuntime
      @PinClockFuntime 7 років тому +46

      that'd make a good Christmas video

    • @Demon_of_Razgriz
      @Demon_of_Razgriz 7 років тому +4

      Neevkl_7 Z Splash? What does that do? Mega nothing? lol

    • @PinClockFuntime
      @PinClockFuntime 7 років тому +22

      Z-Splash raises your attack by 3 stages

    • @redpika6020
      @redpika6020 7 років тому +9

      Demon of Razgriz i'm not sure if you are joking or not...

    • @Demon_of_Razgriz
      @Demon_of_Razgriz 7 років тому +1

      Redpika it was a joke

  • @armorbearer9702
    @armorbearer9702 2 роки тому +6

    I heard that Rhydon was pretty vulnerable to Fire types as well. Because of its low SP. defense, many Fire types can finish it off with Fire Blast or Flamethrower.

  • @azuresaiyan9005
    @azuresaiyan9005 2 роки тому +3

    This video desperately needs a remake. Rhydon still had a niche after Rhyperior, not going into detail on Rhyperior and Rhydon's UU and other tier runs, and Gen 8.

  • @RisingJericho
    @RisingJericho 4 роки тому +8

    Didn't Rhydon see a lot of use when Eviolite was introduced? I know I've seen articles covering it.

  • @alexandretorres4482
    @alexandretorres4482 3 роки тому +3

    This video needs a update, because in Gen 8 VGC first series, Rhyperior was one of the Trick Room Kings with Dynamax. Really hated to play vs it.
    Great Video as always!!!

  • @MRawesome202
    @MRawesome202 5 років тому +107

    What about eveolite rhydon? Its bulkier that rhyperior and its busted in sand

    • @Smart1529
      @Smart1529 4 роки тому +50

      That's true but unfortunately Rhydon is vulnerable to getting hit with Knock off and limit its use with Eviolite only. Rhyperior can utilize more items and be more offense heavy which Rhydon can't do anymore

    • @thecriticalghost4626
      @thecriticalghost4626 4 роки тому +1

      @@Smart1529 Yeah but talking about him would be nice

    • @Smart1529
      @Smart1529 4 роки тому +14

      @@thecriticalghost4626 that is true, it's just a matter of which play style you prefer, offense or defense. Even if you want to use Rhydon for defense, he still lacks solid rock and Pokemon like Chansey is a better bulky Eviolite Pokémon. It's also got to do with which do you like more in design, Rhydon or Rhyperior and most people prefer Rhydon

    • @belimvasim143
      @belimvasim143 4 роки тому

      @@Smart1529 yhe cause rillaboom grassy glide exist so..

    • @p2pselfpuppet796
      @p2pselfpuppet796 4 роки тому +1

      It is viable in double VGC 2020

  • @matthewmcmullen9099
    @matthewmcmullen9099 6 років тому +5

    My Rhyperior Set
    1:Stone Edge/Rock Blast
    2:Earthquake
    3:Megahorn/Poison Jab/Fire Punch/Crunch/Hammer Arm
    4:Ice Punch/ Aqua Tail

  • @SenSen130
    @SenSen130 7 років тому +35

    Crobat pls

  • @nicholasmays4257
    @nicholasmays4257 7 років тому +29

    HERACROSS!!! HERACROSS!!!! HERACROSS!!!!

  • @tacoandchill6550
    @tacoandchill6550 7 років тому +10

    Awesome vid like always! How about ampharos next?

  • @charliesmith1358
    @charliesmith1358 6 років тому +18

    Ryperior really needed that typing change.
    Rock Fighting or ground Fighting both could be pretty decent if you want to keep the duel type
    Or pure rock/ground would do better then their combination. Out of the 2 I'd maybe go Rock so the electric immunity lightning rod gives you isn't entirely useless.

    • @jonathano503
      @jonathano503 4 роки тому +2

      Lightning rod is still great for redirection

  • @TheOtherNeutrino
    @TheOtherNeutrino 2 роки тому +4

    This episode can be redone where both Rhydon and Rhyperior can be covered in each Generation like you did for the Chansey/Blissey 1-hour long episode.

  • @crisrey0799
    @crisrey0799 7 років тому +10

    How good was Kabutops?

  • @GenmuLVLX
    @GenmuLVLX 7 років тому +24

    How good was Heracross?

  • @doshaburiten3276
    @doshaburiten3276 7 років тому +45

    Could you do the Porygons ?

    • @hostiusasinhostilityhostil7853
      @hostiusasinhostilityhostil7853 7 років тому +3

      Yay! More support for the Porygon line!
      You know, I just had a random thought - an easy way to tell fans of the games from fans of the anime is to ask about Porygon. If they don't play the games, then they'll be unable to answer, but they'll probably know about Porygon if they play, especially if they're into competitive Pokémon; after all, Porygon2 is a monster.

    • @natnew32
      @natnew32 7 років тому

      but Porygon2/Porygon-Z are very different and occupy different roles; 2 is a bulky attacker and Z is a setup sweeper. in gen 5/6, they were even in the same tier. So, like scyther and scizor, he can't do both at once.

    • @hostiusasinhostilityhostil7853
      @hostiusasinhostilityhostil7853 7 років тому

      Fair enough. I still can't work out how to use Porygon-Z, to be honest. I mean, it could just be its design and how it looks like something Bethesda would program - fun but *really* buggy - but I always preferred Porygon2; it just looks, well, sleeker. Anyway, yeah, they're very different mons.

    • @FGenthusiast0052
      @FGenthusiast0052 7 років тому

      El Barno
      Until Gen 7:
      Scarfed/Specs/Life Orb
      Gen 7: the mentioned above + Z-Conversion
      PorygonZ is powerful, so you need to know how to use that on your advantage

    • @hostiusasinhostilityhostil7853
      @hostiusasinhostilityhostil7853 7 років тому

      Oh, thanks. Wasn't expecting that. I tried a few Scarf sets, but I couldn't figure out a good use for them at the time. I might try one later.
      And now for something completely different.
      I came up with a weird Aggron set a few months ago. Haven't tried it out yet, so I don't know how good it is - and it is rather experimental, so don't expect it to be amazing - but if anyone wants to use it, then go for it.
      "Trollgron"
      Aggron @ Assault Vest
      Rock Head
      Brave
      4HP / 252 Def / 252 SpD
      Head Smash
      Power-Up Punch
      Iron Head
      Mud Slap

  • @Darktrooper99
    @Darktrooper99 6 років тому +21

    Just increase Solid Rock from 1/4 to 1/2 damage taken from super effective moves and you have a good Pokémon being only weak to x2 water and x2 grass type moves.

    • @Eric-py8yy
      @Eric-py8yy 3 роки тому +5

      Good, this could be given to every rock/ground

    • @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy
      @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy 2 роки тому

      So only 2 weaknesses basically cool
      I would say thats too op, so 1/3 reduced from super effective

    • @Darktrooper99
      @Darktrooper99 2 роки тому +1

      @@Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy I wouldn’t say OP, because Water is a common type and its Speed and Sp. Defense is horrendous. Its good things are its great HP, Attack, Defense and two STAB typings that hit everything for at least neutral damage.

    • @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy
      @Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy 2 роки тому

      @@Darktrooper99 yea the only stuff it cant neutral hit with STAB is Breloom, Torterra, Flygon and Claydol (due to levitate)

  • @gumball2253
    @gumball2253 6 років тому +19

    Rhydon my Diglett

    • @Mr-Trox
      @Mr-Trox 3 роки тому +2

      After you do that, let me Squirtle on your Jigglypuffs

    • @lookorionisonthesky605
      @lookorionisonthesky605 3 роки тому +2

      @@Mr-Trox rhydon my weedle

    • @rhett5058
      @rhett5058 3 роки тому

      I’m Muking

    • @rhett5058
      @rhett5058 3 роки тому

      Really, I’m about to bust a Chesnaut

    • @mlgmence2606
      @mlgmence2606 3 роки тому

      I’m rhydon time to see this conversation

  • @neoace2847
    @neoace2847 7 років тому +18

    Can you do kangaskhan or heracross

  • @dragooncroft
    @dragooncroft 7 років тому +25

    How good was seadra/kingdra ACTUALLY? KEEPITGOING

  • @CalebCraft10
    @CalebCraft10 7 років тому +52

    I feel like I'm the only one who likes Rhyperior's design (at least depending on the angling).

    • @seki108
      @seki108 7 років тому +3

      I like it.

    • @bubblebeamm
      @bubblebeamm 7 років тому +3

      Inklink it looks like he is covered with bandaids

    • @Purpleyoshisinthesky
      @Purpleyoshisinthesky 7 років тому +1

      I'm a fan

    • @marcelohulse
      @marcelohulse 7 років тому +1

      Inklink He's one of my favourites

    • @AlphaStoutland
      @AlphaStoutland 7 років тому +3

      Inklink it's okay. Of the line, I personally like Rhyhorn's the best. It's cool and rocky without overdoing it...like all the rocks on Rhyperior xD

  • @WinterwoodzMC
    @WinterwoodzMC 2 роки тому +3

    I can imagine how many people are making rhydon deez nutz jokes lol

  • @TheDeathmail
    @TheDeathmail 4 роки тому +6

    You know, when I knew that Rhydon got 50 points added to it's Base Stat when it evolved, but it evenly distributed to every stat except Speed, I felt cheated...
    They should have just put all of that into Special Defense instead... and maybe even lowered it's Special Attack and put those points into Special Defense as well...
    Maybe then, it'd be more viable... and you could still have boosted it's Attack and HP by 10 points...
    I feel like Rhyperior wasn't given the boost it deserved...

    • @rhinastocroc-boulet5189
      @rhinastocroc-boulet5189 4 роки тому

      I agree, Rhyperior deserve better stats (especially Special Defence)
      He can sacrifice Special Attack for that.

    • @rhinastocroc-boulet5189
      @rhinastocroc-boulet5189 3 роки тому +1

      @Thx I hate it I imagine like this personally:
      HP: 125
      Atk: 140
      Def: 130
      SpAtk: 30
      SpDef: 90
      Speed: 40

    • @gengarzilla1685
      @gengarzilla1685 3 роки тому +2

      Sucks _defensively_
      Ground and Rock is still surprisingly good in what they both hurt.

    • @rhinastocroc-boulet5189
      @rhinastocroc-boulet5189 3 роки тому

      @@gengarzilla1685 Yes. They're like 25 Pokémon max who can resist both or something (out of pratically 900, it's very impressive)

    • @Smart1529
      @Smart1529 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah 10 points on all stats except speed isn't much. But thank God for Solid Rock, that ability alone sells Rhyperior. Plus why would you run Golem when Rhyperior exist.

  • @adachisans5664
    @adachisans5664 7 років тому +421

    Rhyperior only exists to give rhydon a eviolite

    • @zodiac2701
      @zodiac2701 7 років тому +2

      so tru

    • @yeetymcspice5755
      @yeetymcspice5755 7 років тому +15

      bruh why u hating on rhyperior i understand people hate him its ur opinion but still

    • @Vegito_
      @Vegito_ 7 років тому +2

      So true

    • @Jabeke49
      @Jabeke49 7 років тому +91

      We hate rhyperior because it evolved an excellently made pokemon into a goofy orange one. At least that's what i think.

    • @yeetymcspice5755
      @yeetymcspice5755 7 років тому +6

      i personally do think rhyperior dosent look goofy okay well maybe a little okay well yea he does look goofy but even then goofy pokemon like wobuffet and fricken lickitung are liked the hater for rhyperior just gets higher and higher but its ur opinion not mine

  • @Dampharos
    @Dampharos 7 років тому +52

    Can we discuss about the slowpoke family next?

    • @metalhamer1000
      @metalhamer1000 7 років тому

      Not covering LC.

    • @aweirdo259
      @aweirdo259 7 років тому +2

      viorel weber slowpoke FAMILY

    • @c.e.g8647
      @c.e.g8647 7 років тому +9

      viorel weber I think they mean Slowbro and Slowking, as it says slowpoke family not slowpoke itself.

    • @Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective
      @Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective 7 років тому +2

      Slowbro is basically the asshole of bulky waters thanks to amazing coverage, bulk and the move Slack-Off. Whereas Slacking has almost always been a set-up mon in some regard either skill swapping onto slacking in gen III or setting trick room currently. Basically these guys are rough is what I'm saying.

  • @shadycroby1253
    @shadycroby1253 7 років тому +23

    Maybe Crobat next?

  • @Darisprites
    @Darisprites 7 років тому +4

    I'm voting for Nidoqueen or Heracross!
    Keep up the informative content, man. Really saves people from reading up on Smogon for hours on end.

  • @KyleThePug
    @KyleThePug 7 років тому +279

    Heracross? *pause*

  • @endermewtwogaming2817
    @endermewtwogaming2817 7 років тому +44

    can you please do slowbro? you could even do slowking in the same vid if you want

  • @ahoy1014
    @ahoy1014 7 років тому +246

    Gimme a P!
    Gimme an O!
    Gimme a Porygon video already!

    • @PinClockFuntime
      @PinClockFuntime 7 років тому +5

      how would his evolutions be handled?

    • @ahoy1014
      @ahoy1014 7 років тому +6

      Likely the same way Chansey and Blissey were handled, only discussing the most used evolution.

    • @PinClockFuntime
      @PinClockFuntime 7 років тому +20

      problem is Porygon 2 and Porygon Z are completely different beasts who are both rather viable in their own right. It's more a Scyther Scizor thing.

    • @Iinneus
      @Iinneus 7 років тому +2

      The thing is, since Porygon-Z would only take up three generations of the video, it probably wouldn't make a very long vid on its own...
      BUT, if you were to pair it with Porygon, it would be weird because original Porygon is most similar to Porygon2, so those two should be together.
      So I vote for a whole Porygon mega video that encompasses all three.

    • @Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective
      @Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective 7 років тому +1

      It's true, Porygon 2 is one of those eviolite users everyone really seems to like. Porygon Z ran trick room set-up didn't he?

  • @twistedash9431
    @twistedash9431 3 роки тому +3

    1:55 bruh that Venasaur high or something??? look at its eyes 🤣

  • @cars0mega
    @cars0mega 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks. Rhyperior is my favorite Pokémon,

  • @maninthetrenchcoat5603
    @maninthetrenchcoat5603 7 років тому +15

    Giga Drain didn't exist in Gen 1. Exeggutor would use Mega Drain to beat Rhydon

  • @BigDnotimpressed
    @BigDnotimpressed 7 років тому +72

    Houndoom next!!!

    • @Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective
      @Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective 7 років тому +7

      Red Dead Houndoom was awesome but it's usually been in UU or BL tier where it absolutely dominates. It's attack and speed stabs are too strong to ignore but it has it's share of counters. Generally it's a nasty plot sweeper and a mean mother fucker late game.

    • @oles9196
      @oles9196 7 років тому +1

      I like Houndoom and its very good in sunny day teams cauz you can spam solar beam with it.
      That kills its Ground, Water and stone threats!

    • @Hydroxoid
      @Hydroxoid 7 років тому +1

      red dread dragon 69 Houndoom is a fantastic pokemon, the only problem is its defense, it's horrible

  • @TheAwesomeDarkNinja
    @TheAwesomeDarkNinja 7 років тому +176

    Smeargle.

    • @amyrose4ever157
      @amyrose4ever157 7 років тому +5

      TheAwesomeDarkNinja Rip vgc Gen 7 Smeargle

    • @NeroAngelo616
      @NeroAngelo616 7 років тому +5

      OOooooooooooooooooooh yes. Smeargle has GOTTA be phenomenal level like with Gengar and Tyranitar.

    • @ninjamoncaudle5320
      @ninjamoncaudle5320 7 років тому +4

      Actor Adam Anouer you could predict it in 2016 it was fake out follow me and spam dark void like an idiot...2016 made me despise smeargle and xerneas

    • @Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective
      @Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective 7 років тому

      Oh shit 0,0 I am so glad I didn't play 2016 meta that's... absolutely insane. Those poor assholes. Guess we should've seen the Dark Void thing coming ever since darkrai was a thing.

    • @ninjamoncaudle5320
      @ninjamoncaudle5320 7 років тому +4

      Actor Adam Anouer yeah in 2016 it was nothing but powerherb geomancy then do nothing but spam dazzling gleam xerneas and dark void smeargle. Theres a reason why they nerf dark void and gale wings into the ground people abuse it and were punished

  • @SoftwareAgentsTV
    @SoftwareAgentsTV 7 років тому +2

    These are incredibly well made. Good job!

  • @Jackolantirn
    @Jackolantirn 6 років тому +10

    Rhydon with Eviolite is a solid pick in ORAS. It's physical defense stat is boosted significantly, tanking many physical attacks with easy, while striking back with STAB Earthquake or Stone Edge for crazy damage, or simply set up Stealth Rocks. Also, in Doubles, it redirects electric attacks to itself with Lightning Rod ability.
    "When I Horn Drill, I Rhydon her all night~"

    • @kartiksharma2361
      @kartiksharma2361 4 роки тому +6

      bruh solid rock weakness policy rhyperior with rock polish or in a trick room team is next level

  • @Ryuthedeathangel
    @Ryuthedeathangel 7 років тому +76

    Rhyperior needs a Mega-Evolution, lol.

    • @Indigofrost
      @Indigofrost 7 років тому +5

      its sad but true, oh so very sad

    • @Aldrius
      @Aldrius 7 років тому +27

      They should just buff the hell out of Solid Rock.

    • @SSBBPlayListMaker
      @SSBBPlayListMaker 7 років тому +14

      Yeah, pull an Aggron and change its type to something without the x4 weakness and and maybe keep Solid Rock and huge buffs to attack and defense. maybe even nerf its speed upon Mega Evolving so more points to other stats and so that its Trick Room usage becomes even better. It's not like its outspeeding anything as is so you might as well.

    • @laurijokinen6120
      @laurijokinen6120 7 років тому +5

      SSBBPlayListMaker Ground steel?

    • @RunicSSB
      @RunicSSB 7 років тому +5

      I hope Mega Rhyperior looks more like Rhyhorn, IMO that's the coolest looking of that evolution line.

  • @Marcusjnmc
    @Marcusjnmc 7 років тому +3

    Rhyperior is pretty damn good in VGC, it won a large regional in 15 & I'm looking forward to seeing how it does next year.

  • @Davide111111115
    @Davide111111115 7 років тому +16

    Do Heracross or 1Gen Eeveelutions

  • @idanaay5266
    @idanaay5266 2 роки тому +2

    How NEEDED is a REMAKE actually?

  • @justalonelypan4515
    @justalonelypan4515 7 років тому +16

    You've been talking a lot about Exeggutor, so why not a video about it ;)

  • @eonshade6297
    @eonshade6297 5 років тому +10

    I really love Rhydon, but Golem's explosion is too cool

  • @yuvvtrcvbyhn
    @yuvvtrcvbyhn 7 років тому +5

    Electabuzz/Electivire, that'd be a really neat contrast to this one!

  • @Nsix4
    @Nsix4 2 роки тому +3

    Dang I was hoping to see eviolite rhydon.

  • @loruneye7881
    @loruneye7881 7 років тому +2

    I have really enjoyed your analysis videos since I discovered them. I'd kinda like to see Heracross or Pinsir next.

  • @alexdrake4081
    @alexdrake4081 5 років тому +8

    I know a lot of people hate Rhyperior, but I like it a lot

  • @SSJ2Pikachu
    @SSJ2Pikachu 4 роки тому +4

    Can't wait for the remake of this!!

  • @andrewcomo3283
    @andrewcomo3283 7 років тому +12

    Can you do Drakrai for a Halloween special later on?

  • @shadowldrago
    @shadowldrago 7 років тому +5

    I think it might be interesting to see Blaziken's journey,

  • @javonlong6172
    @javonlong6172 6 років тому +8

    “Hey man even dinosaurs got nerfed out of existence”

  • @Kevin-wx7wu
    @Kevin-wx7wu 7 років тому +63

    1:07 whaaaat????

    • @jaydenyoo4309
      @jaydenyoo4309 6 років тому +20

      Kevin Pereira False is saying this: Ok so False Swipe Gaming says Rhydon has the move body slam. Body slam is a normal type, but since Tauros is a normal type, it can’t get paralyzed

    • @jaydenyoo4309
      @jaydenyoo4309 6 років тому +3

      The moves with the same type as it’s enemy can’t affect them with a statud

    • @jaydenyoo4309
      @jaydenyoo4309 6 років тому +2

      Status*

    • @timothye.2902
      @timothye.2902 6 років тому +1

      pokemon of type X are immune to any status effects inflicted by moves of type X

    • @TheJoey1107
      @TheJoey1107 6 років тому

      Kevin Pereira a

  • @maninthetrenchcoat5603
    @maninthetrenchcoat5603 7 років тому +11

    Also how good was Jolteon

  • @mafiousbj
    @mafiousbj 7 років тому +142

    The perfect April Fools video would be to make Magikarp XD

    • @androsp9105
      @androsp9105 7 років тому +32

      How good was Agumon?

    • @somepony13
      @somepony13 7 років тому +19

      It's gotta be written like the old Smogon entry for it. Man, that article was Pokemon comedy gold.

    • @maninthetrenchcoat5603
      @maninthetrenchcoat5603 7 років тому +5

      They did Unown this year

    • @doubleace11554
      @doubleace11554 6 років тому +4

      MafiousBJ it was dunsparce lol

    • @masterblaster2678
      @masterblaster2678 5 років тому

      Checks and counters: Stop using an Old Rod.
      Made me smile.

  • @kinkytheslinky
    @kinkytheslinky 7 років тому +8

    Heracross next would be sweet

  • @deandregreene2587
    @deandregreene2587 5 років тому +1

    Stat wise: (If Rhyperior were to Mega Evolve)
    Type Rock/Ground
    HP: 115 >>> 115 (0)
    Attack: 140 >>> 160 (+20)
    Defense: 135 >>> 155 (+20)
    Special Attack: 55 >>> 55 (0)
    Special Defense: 55 >>> 115 (+60)
    Speed: 40 >>> 40 (0)
    Potential Abilities: Solid Rock, Lightning Rod, *Protector*, *Resilient Hide*
    Protector: Will shield an ally pokémon if ally is at low HP, but will take double damage from spread attacks.
    Resilient Hide: Damage received from neutral and **not very effective** attacks are reduced by 25%

  • @TheICombaticon
    @TheICombaticon 7 років тому +1

    Since you mentioned Exegguttor quite a bit here, would it be possible to see an analysis on everyone's favorite egg/coconut tree pokémon in the future?

  • @francis2728
    @francis2728 7 років тому +52

    Eevelutions

    • @Mr_Yeet123
      @Mr_Yeet123 7 років тому +1

      Francis Elimbi can't really do them all in one video, have to do one at a time

    • @Cyro23
      @Cyro23 7 років тому +3

      thegamenkid are you underestimating the Lord, Falseswipe gaming?!

  • @finnqwert7409
    @finnqwert7409 7 років тому +25

    Hey my man. I'm a huge fan of your channel, been subbed since your 3rd analysis, and have always loved the videos. This time, however, it felt a little rushed. I noticed a few mistakes here and there, and while those things were nothing major, it still made the video seem unpolished. If you can't keep up with one video a week, just stop doing it, if delaying a video by even one day adds that final layer of polish, I don't think anyone would mind. I will still watch your videos regardless, I'm not hating in the slightest, just some constructive critisism from a long time fan!

    • @amediocreventriloquist9355
      @amediocreventriloquist9355 6 років тому +2

      FinnQwert
      I agree. I personally wouldn't mind him uploading less frequently in return for better content, and by that I don't mean to say his content isn't great already, but just that it feels pretty rushed with a lot of mistakes.

  • @alextorres6146
    @alextorres6146 5 років тому +7

    Rhyperior with ability solid rock not even mega fighting types can bring it down easily

  • @jameywatson8775
    @jameywatson8775 7 років тому +2

    I want to see Salamence next, it was pretty good ever since introduction in Gen 3 and received a Mega Evolution in Gen 6, so I definitely want Salamence to be next.

  • @treystewart731
    @treystewart731 3 роки тому +5

    I still don't get the hate for Rhyperior.

    • @Smart1529
      @Smart1529 3 роки тому +1

      People just thinks it's ugly and out of place. Personally i don't mind it's design especially once you do a bit of research on it. Rhyperior is also pretty good if you know how to use and aware of its weaknesses

    • @luciusirving5926
      @luciusirving5926 2 роки тому

      Me neither, he's a solid overall physical sweeper.

  • @freddyP300
    @freddyP300 7 років тому +14

    Will continue to request Heracross!! Heracross!!

    • @autobotstarscream765
      @autobotstarscream765 7 років тому +1

      Heracross!
      Heracross!
      The big bug boss!
      Yes, I want to see Scyther, Heracross, and Pinsir videos to go with the Scizor vid! :3

  • @DJKacu.
    @DJKacu. 7 років тому +67

    Please do Kangaskhan next! :)

  • @PinguGnu
    @PinguGnu 7 років тому +12

    PLEASE do jolteon or heracross I have been waiting forever

  • @Bigbaby950
    @Bigbaby950 Рік тому +1

    Still so wild that rhydon can learn surf, thunder, ice beam, fire blast

  • @hollowlunerfang
    @hollowlunerfang 7 років тому +1

    I been looking forward to this all weekend!
    Heracross next! Love that big bug.

  • @WTC-1990
    @WTC-1990 5 років тому +6

    I think it's megas stats should be like this
    Ability: Soild Rock
    HP: 115
    Attack: 170
    Defence: 160
    Sp Atk: 50
    Sp Def: 100
    Speed: 40
    ~ Earthquake
    ~ Stone Edge
    ~ Hammer Arm
    ~ Protect

    • @HueyHueii
      @HueyHueii 4 роки тому

      The HP stat doesn't change when a Pokémon mega-evolves.

    • @WTC-1990
      @WTC-1990 4 роки тому

      @@HueyHueii I know it doesn't, you many wanna look at the video again

    • @brendan01
      @brendan01 2 роки тому

      What about the typing? I wish it was rock fighting

    • @WTC-1990
      @WTC-1990 2 роки тому +1

      @@brendan01 Rock / Fighting sounds right

    • @brendan01
      @brendan01 2 роки тому

      @@WTC-1990 ye but its first typing is ground so it can be ground fighting too.

  • @pepedomingoscastanas1732
    @pepedomingoscastanas1732 7 років тому +23

    KINGDRAAAA

  • @DrDizzleFrizzle
    @DrDizzleFrizzle 7 років тому +4

    You mentioned a 4x weakness to Giga Drain in gen 1...just pointing that out lol

  • @StormCrownSr
    @StormCrownSr 6 років тому +2

    A Pokémon with 140 base attack is in rarely used... My mind is blown.

  • @PikaPunch44
    @PikaPunch44 3 роки тому +2

    That dinosaur analogy was accurately on point!

  • @dwaynethecockjohnson1111
    @dwaynethecockjohnson1111 7 років тому +7

    Plz do onix and steelix next.