Thanks for running the Browserbench 2 benchmark. Apart from the Linux command line, almost all my work is in the browser and so this one is relevant to me.
Old computers are very useful. I purchased a foldable shopping cart, and I lined it with the equivalent to corrugated cardboard, but it was made of plastic instead. The side panels had to be folded inward to get them out of the way, before folding up the cart, but they also tended to flop around when the cart was open. So naturally, you remove the strong magnets from your old dead computer HDD, and use them to hold the side panels in place. The rest of the HDD becomes the base of your newly created DIY home made computer desk lamp. But many years later, two metal rods that are part of the cart frame, each broke into two pieces due to wear and tear. Naturally, you then use the old HDD case mounting adapters to clamp onto the broken rod pieces, all to hold the pieces back together as one, once again. Yep, very useful. LOL
Your videos are really great for those who want to see the innards of these old computers. I have a small question. I'm planning to turn this into a pfsense machine. How was the fan noise after you fixed the ram issue and did you do any power draw tests?
I used to use this machine as a NAS and did a deep-dive into power consumption (and saving) for it. You can find that (old) video over here: ua-cam.com/video/q_xz7ur4HS8/v-deo.html good luck :)
Good idea to replace the thermal paste. Buy the best quality thermal paste you can get. I found some paste with excellent thermal properties for only £5 at YFOS, Brand: BSFF. Remove the heatsink by unscrewing the 4 screws holding it in. Remove the existing paste by wiping it away with a tissue, or baby wipe. Clean the rest away with IPA. Allow any IPA to dry (a minute or two). Put on a tiny amount of paste on both the CPU top and heatsink. Wipe it on evenly with the plastic knife or applier (supplied). You only need a tiny bit of paste. I reckon less than 0.1g. Carefully put the heatsink back on. IPA = iso-propyl alcohol YFOS = Your favourite online store. W/m.k-2 = watts per square metre per kelvin; the stat your looking for. Higher the better. It's easy to find compounds with better than 11W/m.k-2. Get one of those. Get the smallest tube of paste they sell. 1g is plenty and will probably do ten applications or more if you only use the tinniest bit you can. The more paste you you use, the more will squeeze out sideways.
My refurbished Lenovo computer did not work, but gave me plenty of error code beeps. It turned out that the BIOS was not adapting to the USB Keyboard that came with the computer. Instead, it was set for the wireless keyboard that was used during the testing of the computer as part of the refurbishing. The only way that the BIOS did an update to the present hardware, was to remove one of the RAM strips. That got everything up and going, and so I then reinstalled the second RAM strip, and all RAM was fully functional.
@@DakuRvD Mine was a refurbished computer, and it beeped right from taking it out of the box and plugging in and turning it on. Someone else on their video said they had the same problem, but sent it back instead.
I have one of these and its been a German Panzer Tiger Two ! I hands down is the best PC I have ever had I am getting ready to convert to SSD . I thought when you converted to SSD you removed the HD ?
@@jensdbe I was going to use it for back up but I am converting from HD to SSD My poor pc has been shut off and on thousands of times I have no clue what keeps it going . I do keep it blown out with a compressor that really seems to help it alot. thanks for the reply
@@jensdbe Very true, an older machine with just a RAM upgrade and adding an SSD to boot from makes them very usable for most tasks even today! Over the years I have pulled several laptops and even desktops from electronics recycling and did those same upgrades and they are better machines then I could of ever hoped to buy back in the day.
@@jensdbe Absolutely - back in the day after 6 months a computer really was starting to become obsolete and CERTAINLY within a year your computer would be too old to bother with.
@@SA77888 not sure what I like more tbh. Looking back I was always so impressed by what a new generation could do. Now its just here and there small improvements in general.
@@jensdbe Yeah I remember the clock speeds would double, every few months it seemed like.. now specifications are pretty stagnant (stay the same) for ages.
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. I have a Think Centre m92p, and I've been trying to do a ram update from 4gb to 16gb. I purchased a 2x8gb kit. I put in two sticks. Got the memory error audio code. I then in just one of the 8gb sticks on the original slot where the original 4gb stick was. I tested both sticks in that slot, and both worked. Is there a setting that I'm missing so that both can be recognized and I have use of 16GB? Thank you.
Make sure you are using the correct slots to insert the memory although using the wrong slot should get the machine to boot but with less good performance. I believe slots 2 and 4 should be used first on a M92p
i've just recently teared down this exact same pc case (i7 cpu and 8gb ram though) but the plastic backplate was broken now i've tried a new backplate it doesn't want to fit on the cooler now it doesn't screw in just comes straight out any idea how i can fix this to put the cooler back on? thanks :)
As far as I can see, a s500 comes with 4th generation Intel Core CPUs. In general these would be faster, depending on the exact model, then the 2nd generation in the M91p.
I dont really know much about PC but my Lenovo PC came in and it started making a really bad fan noise sounding like a jet can i get some help on stopping that noise?
Afaik a Quadro 4000 is pretty power hungry (around 140W). It's far from the fastest card so I wouldn't recommend it. A GTX 1050Ti for example uses a lot less power and is nearly 3x as fast.
As far as I can find, it got released to the marked in August 2011. But they've been selling these for quite some time so it's not that surprising that in 2013 you could still buy it. I believe the M92p was introduced in the end of 2013.
I did a few videos on Linux and use it on a daily basis. Just not as a desktop OS. It could indeed be a replacement for Windows on unsupported machines but I think that for the average user, it would cause a lot more adjustment and frustration that getting around the hardware checks :) Especially if they would expect to run their trusty Windows apps smoothless.
Thanks for running the Browserbench 2 benchmark. Apart from the Linux command line, almost all my work is in the browser and so this one is relevant to me.
Old computers are very useful. I purchased a foldable shopping cart, and I lined it with the equivalent to corrugated cardboard, but it was made of plastic instead. The side panels had to be folded inward to get them out of the way, before folding up the cart, but they also tended to flop around when the cart was open. So naturally, you remove the strong magnets from your old dead computer HDD, and use them to hold the side panels in place. The rest of the HDD becomes the base of your newly created DIY home made computer desk lamp. But many years later, two metal rods that are part of the cart frame, each broke into two pieces due to wear and tear. Naturally, you then use the old HDD case mounting adapters to clamp onto the broken rod pieces, all to hold the pieces back together as one, once again. Yep, very useful. LOL
Great video keep up the good work..
Your videos are really great for those who want to see the innards of these old computers.
I have a small question. I'm planning to turn this into a pfsense machine. How was the fan noise after you fixed the ram issue and did you do any power draw tests?
I used to use this machine as a NAS and did a deep-dive into power consumption (and saving) for it. You can find that (old) video over here: ua-cam.com/video/q_xz7ur4HS8/v-deo.html good luck :)
Amazing !
Good idea to replace the thermal paste. Buy the best quality thermal paste you can get. I found some paste with excellent thermal properties for only £5 at YFOS, Brand: BSFF. Remove the heatsink by unscrewing the 4 screws holding it in. Remove the existing paste by wiping it away with a tissue, or baby wipe. Clean the rest away with IPA. Allow any IPA to dry (a minute or two). Put on a tiny amount of paste on both the CPU top and heatsink. Wipe it on evenly with the plastic knife or applier (supplied). You only need a tiny bit of paste. I reckon less than 0.1g. Carefully put the heatsink back on.
IPA = iso-propyl alcohol
YFOS = Your favourite online store.
W/m.k-2 = watts per square metre per kelvin; the stat your looking for. Higher the better. It's easy to find compounds with better than 11W/m.k-2. Get one of those.
Get the smallest tube of paste they sell. 1g is plenty and will probably do ten applications or more if you only use the tinniest bit you can. The more paste you you use, the more will squeeze out sideways.
Nice PC, I like old stuff 😄
Awesome video! ❤️
Nice to hear. Enjoy :)
My refurbished Lenovo computer did not work, but gave me plenty of error code beeps. It turned out that the BIOS was not adapting to the USB Keyboard that came with the computer. Instead, it was set for the wireless keyboard that was used during the testing of the computer as part of the refurbishing. The only way that the BIOS did an update to the present hardware, was to remove one of the RAM strips. That got everything up and going, and so I then reinstalled the second RAM strip, and all RAM was fully functional.
My computer also beeps
And doesn't get on
@@DakuRvD Mine was a refurbished computer, and it beeped right from taking it out of the box and plugging in and turning it on. Someone else on their video said they had the same problem, but sent it back instead.
I have one of these and its been a German Panzer Tiger Two ! I hands down is the best PC I have ever had I am getting ready to convert to SSD . I thought when you converted to SSD you removed the HD ?
You can choose to keep the HD and repurpose it for simple storage, rather than using to run the OS/applications.
@@jensdbe I was going to use it for back up but I am converting from HD to SSD My poor pc has been shut off and on thousands of times I have no clue what keeps it going . I do keep it blown out with a compressor that really seems to help it alot. thanks for the reply
would it be possible to upgrade the motherboard? I like the form factor of the case and but the i5 2400 I have in mine is hopelessly outdated
The IO-panel is removable and the rest of the board + power supply seems pretty standard ATX, so looks like this might work.
will standard atx fit in the case? can i upgrade to a micro itx mobo?
Nice little machine.
Still find it amazing how an 11 year old PC still performs pretty good today. This was way different back in the day.
@@jensdbe Very true, an older machine with just a RAM upgrade and adding an SSD to boot from makes them very usable for most tasks even today! Over the years I have pulled several laptops and even desktops from electronics recycling and did those same upgrades and they are better machines then I could of ever hoped to buy back in the day.
@@jensdbe Absolutely - back in the day after 6 months a computer really was starting to become obsolete and CERTAINLY within a year your computer would be too old to bother with.
@@SA77888 not sure what I like more tbh. Looking back I was always so impressed by what a new generation could do. Now its just here and there small improvements in general.
@@jensdbe Yeah I remember the clock speeds would double, every few months it seemed like.. now specifications are pretty stagnant (stay the same) for ages.
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. I have a Think Centre m92p, and I've been trying to do a ram update from 4gb to 16gb. I purchased a 2x8gb kit. I put in two sticks. Got the memory error audio code. I then in just one of the 8gb sticks on the original slot where the original 4gb stick was. I tested both sticks in that slot, and both worked. Is there a setting that I'm missing so that both can be recognized and I have use of 16GB? Thank you.
Make sure you are using the correct slots to insert the memory although using the wrong slot should get the machine to boot but with less good performance. I believe slots 2 and 4 should be used first on a M92p
Do you know what the most powerful compatible cpu this computer takes?
How to open case while the blue slider button was broken?
I just bought it scnd hnd and if I change the case will motherboard fit in it case ant e sports 120 ag. Will it fit and sits on same screws?
Hello, is it normal for this model to turn on only when connected to the power? thank you.
i've just recently teared down this exact same pc case (i7 cpu and 8gb ram though) but the plastic backplate was broken now i've tried a new backplate it doesn't want to fit on the cooler now it doesn't screw in just comes straight out any idea how i can fix this to put the cooler back on? thanks :)
At 8:14 - what is the metal heatsink next to the PCIe ports?
That's the chipset of the motherboard.
Lenovo M91p vs Lenovo s500 which is good for gaming?
As far as I can see, a s500 comes with 4th generation Intel Core CPUs. In general these would be faster, depending on the exact model, then the 2nd generation in the M91p.
@@jensdbe i checked this is good 👍 very fast
Hello i think i have this pc, will a micro atx mother board fit this case with a low profile gpu?
I think this should work. It does look like the motherboard and case supports standard micro ATX and so does the power supply.
I dont really know much about PC but my Lenovo PC came in and it started making a really bad fan noise sounding like a jet can i get some help on stopping that noise?
If it is the CPU fan, you can replace it with a similar (and even more quiet) model. Just make sure the pinout is the same.
Do you think a Quadro 4000 with 80w will work with this PC
Afaik a Quadro 4000 is pretty power hungry (around 140W). It's far from the fastest card so I wouldn't recommend it. A GTX 1050Ti for example uses a lot less power and is nearly 3x as fast.
i have the Lenovo m91p sff the power supply date is 2013 I thought this was a 2011 pc?
As far as I can find, it got released to the marked in August 2011. But they've been selling these for quite some time so it's not that surprising that in 2013 you could still buy it. I believe the M92p was introduced in the end of 2013.
Do a video installing Linux (debian/Ubuntu or any) as these really support outdated models. After some setup Linux can do windows apps.
I did a few videos on Linux and use it on a daily basis. Just not as a desktop OS. It could indeed be a replacement for Windows on unsupported machines but I think that for the average user, it would cause a lot more adjustment and frustration that getting around the hardware checks :) Especially if they would expect to run their trusty Windows apps smoothless.
How about Intel Xeon Processor?
As far as I can find, there is no support for Xeon CPUs in the M91p. The fastest CPU you can upgrade to seems to be the Core i7 2600
does this computer support secure boot and uefi?
I believe it does although for Windows 11 the TPM level is too low (and CPU unsupported) but there's plenty of workarounds :)
@@jensdbedo you think you could check because my pc isn’t working right now but after i replace a part i’m going to download windows 11 on it
@@adz__.023 I did run Windows 11 on it by using this method: ua-cam.com/video/iPc4Tmhv-1o/v-deo.html
Worked just fine for the time I used it.
Can i put rx 6400 on lenovo m91p sff??
That should work fine. Power consumption is not too high and it exists in a low profile variant.
@@jensdbe thanks now i can play games easier
Support i5 3rd gen
Does not run Windows 10 properly.
How so? Looks like it is running just fine with Windows 10.
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