Scottie, im thinkin Renesis 13B .. as series 2 motor.. They are still new enought to exist as crate motors .. usually with 6 speed gearbox, that way its still modern & reliable.
@@askannav2094 Lmao a Renesis reliable? No. An FD-era 13B with all the pollution shit sorted out and a smaller single turbo on it for ~400 horsepower would be VERY streetable and still quick in a car this light.
I think the Barina motor is the way to go, being an opel/vauxhall motor and the Torana afterall began as a Vauxhall Viva it seems fitting. Plus the Barina doesn't seem to have a place on the channel. Be different in 2022!! Love your work guys, keep it up 👍
I'm all for a good Rotary and the sound you can't beat. But they've been swapped into just about everything. I have not seen a Opel powered torana in my lifetime. My vote is Opel for sure!!!
My vote is the Toyota 3RZ. Close 2nd is a K24 Both make good power, and are not the usual LS/BARRA/2J cookie cutter swap that you see under every other bonnet. Whatever you choose, I’ll still watch every episode 😊
The move away from just considering V8's is refreshing and probably the reason why your content is so popular. Street Machine celebrates all in the car community. It's time. Putting in a 20B and collaborating with the dorito experts we have right here on our door step is a no brainer. You can do it!!!!!!!!!!!
I reckon between a rotary and the 2J, I don't think you've done much with rotaries on the channel so a whole project on them would be great. I was also thinking of the K swap. But Im not really sure why but I just stuck between the 2J and the Rotorie. Now that I think more about it I think it's a better option for a rotary, small, sounds good, very fun. So that's a rotary vote for me!
the trolvo already has the 2j motor in it, so i agree aswell a rotary enigne is simple and easy to put into that small engine bay without too much work either....
Put a Dorito in it for sure !!! 13b PP 5 speed with a nice big snail on the side for good measure. It"ll fit, fly and put smiles on all the kids faces 🙂
I said CA20DET on the last video - people call them "forklift engines" but you can build them for a reliable streetable 350 flywheel horsepower, which is what, 5x stock 4cyl Torrie power?
There's a million tradeys out there with a 3RZ or 2TR-FE in their Hilux workmate. Do an engine that is relevent for all the tradies, but not usually played with . All the best with the decision 🍻
All you need to know about them is they use a lot of oil and fuel, don't make any power until they hit serious RPMs, spew massive amounts of CO2 & carcinogens, need to be rebuilt at least 3 times as often as a piston engine. They are a curiosity at best, an engine for contrarians at worst. This is why no other auto manufacturer other than NSU (who went broke because of their RO80 rotary) and Mazda have ever bothered with them. Also anyone who thinks the noise they make is nice is certifiably bonkers. Braaat! Braaat! braat! braat! Sounds like a flatulent elephant to me. Still it'd be an interesting project especially for a track only car, & it's not my car, so I'm all for it too.
As I originally said, the vauxhall /opel C20 engine turbo'd and set the rev limit at 10000 rpm. It'll be a screamer. Or put in the 4wd system from the 90s vauxhall calibras/cavalier turbos.
I think the Opel C20XE would be a very cool and fitting swap actually, given the car's origins. Would love to see that, but i'll be looking forward to whatever you guys decide!
twin hayabusa turbo (front and rear mounted with gear linkage joining the two) motors? Easy 800hp plus with 4wd. They fit in anything as they’re tiny and who’s got a Torana that revs to 11k? Plenty of tuning parts available too. It would be mental.
It'd be nice to see the C20XE out of the Barina/Corsa fired in. But can't help but think what a 3SGE Beams out of a Altezza would be like in it? Maybe a more realistic choice, as I bet XE's aren't exactly common in 'Straya and getting go fast bits wouldn't be as easy either. Can be Turbo'd later on and come with a RWD gearbox. That said, I'm not too fussed with what you fit. As it's gonna be fun watching Scotty fitting it 👍.
K Swap makes sense, or alternatively a 2.5 Duratec (high revving NA, Mountune style). Be great to see a Pro Tourer style approach to the Torana over the usual pro street/drag thing.
Quad peripheral port rotor. Another engine to throw into the mix is the 4G63 mitsi or stroker version. Very capable motor Golby’s sell a 2.2 stroker kit capable of 1100hp and 10k rpm ready to go
My vote is either 4G63T or C20XE. There's a great 4G63 RWD facebook page with lots of info, and heaps of rwd conversion parts and bellhousings are available these days. If you use the C20XE from the Barina, you can use a gearbox from a late TF Rodeo with the C22NE engine, or a 4 cylinder RA Rodeo with the C24SE, they are the same engine family and the sump/pickup may be useful aswell, they're a rear hump.
Or a NA rotary that revs to the moon, keeping the car light and agile, maybe more of a hill climb car or circuit car instead of the normal drag builds :)
Definitely not LS or Barra, or even JZ, I would like.to see something definitely different since you have a complete blank canvas. Rotors have been done. I like the idea of others of the Ecoboost or a Cosworth. If you weren't so against the commodore V6 I'd go that. I put a VS V6 turbo in my 77 Corolla with a 5 sp and it hooks up and shoots better then some supercharged V8s I've given a go.
As someone who owns a turbo 6 gtr I'd love to see something completely new that nobody else has done. Something like a V6 turbo diesel from a navara or amarok or maybe a turbo hayabusa engine
Hands down C20XE, this channel is about learning, experience, experiments and teaching others about how we can achieve different results. I think an honest 4cyl conversion would be a great opportunity to see how well it will compete against larger capacity engines, and a great addition as s ground up 4cyl build.
Whatever you do, NO BARRA PLEASE! I LOVE the Barra and I'd love to have one here in the US, but in Australia I'm getting tired of seeing them swapped into everything.
Agreed but you gotta realize shit here is expensive so we tend to go for the cheaper options and green top barras can be picked up for 400 bucks and are capable of 700hp+ for as little as 8k in comparison a set of aftermarket heads for like a 350 chev are around 5 6k.
Suggestion way out of left field, but what about a Buick/Rover 3.5 V8? There would have to be stacks of Range Rovers rusted out in backyards? They’re small, alloy, light and with decent internals can make really good power. Plus they sound brilliant.
Anyone saying JZ didn't watch TSF 😅 I know you said no 308, but the old iron lion does seem to be coming back in vogue. Maybe a budget VN headed 355, with a 200 shot of dope backed by a TH350?
Something different! I'd live to see a C20LET setup! Didn't even know these were a thing! You've got it there ready to go. Don't go rotary. Been done too many times!
I like the sound of going a rotary! Also if you’re just gonna get rid of the old running gear , i’d love to buy it off you , i’ve got a Hb torana , but sadly no spare steering columns :(
The 2J would certainly hammer. I was thinking 2 other combo's - 1) 2 x 13B rotary's. One behind the other with turbo's - High rev's, converter, auto. 2) Old school. Street machine did a piece on a 4.4 litre alloy Rover V8 years ago, bored and/or stroked to 5 litres. All alloy so light weight, bang a turbo or 2 on it, injection...Light weight with V8 goodness.
RB 30 sounds like the engine you're looking for. But DON'T go twin cam, the SOHC make plenty of power and the twin cam conversion ads a lot of extra things to go wrong! ask me how I know haha
Vauxhall’s red top is a beast of an engine and would be really cool in a retro tuning style car. But my vote would be for the rotary you just cannot beat the noise of a bridge ported three or four rotor motor at idle 😎
Audi 07K RS3 motor would be cool too, definitely out of the box and 5 cylinders sound good wild. Even a built 4JJ1 or 1KD/KZ would be cool. Plenty of bits out there to build them too
You won't hear me utter these words to often Scotty 😂 but I reckon stay with the 4cyl theme. Have a look at theToyota 3RZ...talk to the Hoff (Nugget Garage) or maybe an ecoboost from a mustang...should be pretty easy finding a donor.
If you struggle to find 1. You can trap a mustang in the wild very easily. Have a small group of expendable people, also known as the bait, gather on a nearby sidewalk. If you're unable to acquire said individuals, mannequins will do in a pinch. Now using another vehicle with an obnoxiously loud exhaust, slowly circle the block driving past the bait, while revving the vehicle. This will help lure the mustang in to the trap, enticing and exciting the driver in to a frenzy. Allow a minute for the driver to fully commit and voila! 1 freshly wrecked donor mustang...now the owner being in a state of shock, will take any help/money offered to remove the vehicle as quickly as possible, wishing to avoid the police, further embarrassment regarding their driving prowess and not wanting to be a part of the next 'mustang driver mega crash compilation' on UA-cam. 😂😂😂
I like the Barina motor option best. A 2JZ or RB would be cool too but keep its roots together. As others have said the Torana started as a Vauxhall Viva.
Rotor would be awesome! But I reckon the Opel motor would be cool and you already have it so big plus there. Maybe an RB20det surely would be the cheapest RB of the lot.
For a while GM offered the Ecotec 2.0L DOHC Turbo as a crate engine with a six speed box included. We got that engine in the ZB Commodore, figure out the box and get the crate engine control setup, golden
3RZ almost the only engine still out there that is affordable in its native form. Lots of aftermarket engine and gearbox support for it too. Rotaries mega expensive these days, having to buy a complete engine, and then rebuild it with new parts and some go fast internal bits and pieces you’re looking $12k+ at least. Hurt it bad enough and throw it all away and have to spend another $12k… I do have one sitting on the garage floor collecting dust though haha
A Volkswagen W8 from the Passat?… It’s not such a crazy idea, it’s compact, pretty light and would be completely unique. Orrr even the VR6 out of the Golf, which would be even more compact, unique and potentially easier to find. I dunno I’m all about the VW ideas.
Loving the content Scotty, you have a lot of forced induction cars already. How about an N/A 4 or 6 swap, high comp and ITB trumpets backed by a 5 speed, built for corners as you have enough drag cars already. Keep up the great work.
Go the Chook Cooker option, please tho, make it a street car, engineered and rego. Show the build process including the engineer etc. This is "Street Machine" not "towed to a drag strip"
It all comes down to what sort of times and power needed to achieve those times and then look at your budget. i have made 420hp at the wheels from a stock bottom end sr reliably so that would be my choice. again comes down to your budget and expected track times.
I would love to see the Opel C20xe go into the torana, I have plenty of experience with this motor owning a Calibra and my own big block Barina plus a spare C20xe & the turbo variant C20LET, I can also tell you the box from a 2.4L rodeo (C24SE) will bolt up to the engine as the gen2 motors shared the same bolt pattern and that’s a common box and you can source here in Australia
My vote would be a twin turbo Honda J32/J35/J38 SOHC V6 with a RWD 6 speed manual. The K series is a GREAT engine and they make alot of horsepower and torque, but the Honda V6s have displacement along with torque and are plenty capable of making 500 whp on 10-12 lbs of boost. I made 502 whp with my J32A (3.2L) with a Garrett GTS3582 turbo and that was at 10.2 psi on 93 octane pump gas.
In the 90's one of our mates had the same car running a 13b then later and blown 13b and was like green and known locally in Penrith as the Rotana.....very tough little car
Well- No LS, no Barra, no JZ, 308/304 been done a million times... Maybe a V6 Qaud cam from like a Camry/ Kluger or such (Prado V6 is a 4lt), or a rev happy 4 banger from something with a turbo
They cost SO MUCH these days, whereas the CA motors out of the lower-model S13 Silvias are a dime a dozen at import wreckers, and they can be built to make good power quite cheaply.
@@ChristopherHallett CA wasn't out of " lower models" it's the older motor and were only replaced because they were more expensive to make. The Sr was a cheaper mass produce design.
Mercedes all alloy 5L V8, AMG 5 speed auto and AMG rear end, nat. aspirated - light, lots of power, very reliable, plenty of parts still available. Cheers Dave C.
Love the build Scotty, I have a LS powered LX but I think you need a later model V6 single turbo, like a Honda J series V6 or a Nissan VQ V6 then a cheap eBay turbo, they both make huge power and are low buck wreaker motors 🤷♂️
I would toss in an Opel, as I have an older one for just such a project. However a rotor would be the ideal choice and what I was thinking while watching. Would love to see it as a streeter, but if it has to be a track day car it needs to circuit, hillclimb and drag.
I'd love to see a rotary swap, or if we're going to go left field, a Honda F20C or K24 swap would be awesome. Strong internals, compact size to fit in the stubby nose Torana and respond very well to boost.
The brapp would be fun but I reckon a four cylinder engine of some sort would be good, change it up a bit. Whether a similar engine to the Barina or the Honda engine you mentioned. I also liked a suggestion someone else made to go with a pro tourer theme on this one instead of drag racing. Let's face it, whatever you do I'll happily watch it.
The 2J idea sounds amazing, provided it fits even with some chopping! I think it would be awesome to try and crack a thousand hp with very minimal upgrades, not too mention the amount of aftermarket support available should you decide to really build the motor! :)
New meets old, I like the idea of the Barina engine. As stated they can make good power, it's not a commonly used engine in Aus (I'm getting a vibe that you want something unique). 2J gets used in a lot of conversions, just like LS and Barra.
Ya have to work within a budget and you have a 2J there or the Barina engine. Either of those would be pretty cool or a 20B rotor with all the trimmings to ruffle some feathers and get the comments going. Hey it could end up being the new golden egg for the channel Scotty hahaha 😅
Rotary all the way in this case Scotty That vn that old mate slapped together is a bit of fun But to be honest Low Weight + decent power = fast 2JZ +torana = good power/weight Rotorana = AWESOME PWR and marketing opp Think of the shirts/hats/stickers I’m a lion lover through and through but in the stable you guys have ROTORANA FTW
What about doing up a blue or black 202 for it and taking out to the track after every few mods done. By the end of the build stroke and turbo or supercharge it. Aim for the 10's with it and making a little challenge for you blokes.
Either K swap or the rotary would both be great engines for this car and no major mods to the chassis/body for either engine. Although unless you know where to get a rotary cheaply they’re almost as expensive as a LS….mainly 13B a little less for the 12A
On the same lines as the barina, go for a 2.0 Duratec out of a focus. Guys in the UK use them in old escorts and make great power. I have an 08 you can have if you do, less than 100000k on it, apart from sunburnt paint and needing a jump start it's good to go. And I'm pretty local to you. Missus upgraded to a larger kid hauler during early lockdown so it's been parked ever since. Plus you'd be doing me a favour, 1 less unreg car to move everytime I mow
My litter brother is currently building an NA K24 for his MK2 Cortina, its being built by APM in Sydney and will be a street/strip built engine and be in the neighborhood of 400hp also will spin to 10000ish rpm. I never really liked them due to the 'fart cannon' noise associated with them, but when I was told NA 400hp 4cyl turning at 9500-10000rpm for around $6-7.5K I cant think of a better option in that lightweight car. Also this will be an engine you haven't done on this channel it may bring in more viewers from abroad (which these engines do have quite the cult following). I'd get in quick on these engine while there are plenty around still, $500-1000 from a wrecker and these WILL be the next LS or Barra price skyrocket type engine.
Being a v8 fan i didnt think i would suggest this, but why not do an epic build a bit like the boys at bad obsession motorsport did with the project binky, and do a full all wheel drive setup using a vw golf r engine and driveline? Would put your skills to the test and be an awesome track car.
As sson as you revealed this car my brain said "rotary swap would be class" and seeing those doritos made me laugh. I would LOVE to see a heavily ported and boosted rotor in that snubby little torana!!
I’m team Rotary would love to see that especially boosted
Hell yea a rotor!
I agree
Scottie, im thinkin Renesis 13B .. as series 2 motor.. They are still new enought to exist as crate motors .. usually with 6 speed gearbox, that way its still modern & reliable.
@@askannav2094 Renayasis
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@@askannav2094 Lmao a Renesis reliable? No. An FD-era 13B with all the pollution shit sorted out and a smaller single turbo on it for ~400 horsepower would be VERY streetable and still quick in a car this light.
Whatever engine you install into this Nugget, as long as there are Shenanigans along the way. I'm IN! 👍 FULL SEND SCOTTY!!
People are gunna hate but the 2 liter eco boost out of an fg falcon. My current project is an eco boost into a tc cortina
That tickles my pickle. Do you have a build thread/channel anywhere?
I want one in my ef, but gotta find one cheap with the k frame lol
If you said Escort, I would've been interested.
Still in early stages of parts collection. Hoping to start body work in the next 6 months
I love it. Great idea.
Bring it back to the good old boy racer days 13 B rotary 😍
I think the Barina motor is the way to go, being an opel/vauxhall motor and the Torana afterall began as a Vauxhall Viva it seems fitting. Plus the Barina doesn't seem to have a place on the channel. Be different in 2022!! Love your work guys, keep it up 👍
that engine sounds fun when it on song. i think the barina would be an awesome bit of fun to drive.
Where a c20xe will fit, a saab b204 turbo can be shoehorned in, but as they already have the red top....
Makes sense to me too. They already have it so the other winner is more money to spend on bits.
The opal motor would be sick 🤙
I'm all for a good Rotary and the sound you can't beat. But they've been swapped into just about everything. I have not seen a Opel powered torana in my lifetime. My vote is Opel for sure!!!
Go the rotary, a nice little triple rotary in the little Torana would be insane. Paint it burnt orange and name it Dorito. Brap Brap Brap.
My vote is the Toyota 3RZ.
Close 2nd is a K24
Both make good power, and are not the usual LS/BARRA/2J cookie cutter swap that you see under every other bonnet.
Whatever you choose, I’ll still watch every episode 😊
100 percent!
Or the 2TR-FE
K24 for the win!
Honda J v6 really easy to make 500-600 go single turbo look at boosted bois and pfi speed those motors take a beating built motor 1000hp no problem
3RZ is the go, torque monsters, massive power potential and super common
The move away from just considering V8's is refreshing and probably the reason why your content is so popular. Street Machine celebrates all in the car community. It's time. Putting in a 20B and collaborating with the dorito experts we have right here on our door step is a no brainer. You can do it!!!!!!!!!!!
With your track record working on engines, make sure it's easy to get in and out.
Haha
Rotary would tick that box
Have you thought about the nissan v8's or a vq35
@@rossgardiner2351 i think any quad cam engine would be too wide for chassis rails
That shell deserves an Opel cadet tarmac rally style build.
I reckon between a rotary and the 2J, I don't think you've done much with rotaries on the channel so a whole project on them would be great. I was also thinking of the K swap. But Im not really sure why but I just stuck between the 2J and the Rotorie. Now that I think more about it I think it's a better option for a rotary, small, sounds good, very fun. So that's a rotary vote for me!
Was thinking the same, untill l saw your comment 👍
Rotary all the way
the trolvo already has the 2j motor in it, so i agree aswell a rotary enigne is simple and easy to put into that small engine bay without too much work either....
Put a Dorito in it for sure !!! 13b PP 5 speed with a nice big snail on the side for good measure. It"ll fit, fly and put smiles on all the kids faces 🙂
I'd honestly vote a set up turbo 4cylinder sr20/k20/f20/3sge
I’m with you dude fj20 all the way
I said CA20DET on the last video - people call them "forklift engines" but you can build them for a reliable streetable 350 flywheel horsepower, which is what, 5x stock 4cyl Torrie power?
There's a million tradeys out there with a 3RZ or 2TR-FE in their Hilux workmate. Do an engine that is relevent for all the tradies, but not usually played with . All the best with the decision 🍻
My uncle had a 13b bridgeport powered LJ back in the 80's up in QLD. Ruffled a few Holden fan boy feathers back in the day!
Rotary for sure!! Some other good options there, but the Rotary is something that could be very entertaining.
I vote rotary, would love to learn more about them and feels like a good fit imo
I still can't work out how they move the Eccentric Crank lol
All you need to know about them is they use a lot of oil and fuel, don't make any power until they hit serious RPMs, spew massive amounts of CO2 & carcinogens, need to be rebuilt at least 3 times as often as a piston engine. They are a curiosity at best, an engine for contrarians at worst. This is why no other auto manufacturer other than NSU (who went broke because of their RO80 rotary) and Mazda have ever bothered with them. Also anyone who thinks the noise they make is nice is certifiably bonkers. Braaat! Braaat! braat! braat! Sounds like a flatulent elephant to me. Still it'd be an interesting project especially for a track only car, & it's not my car, so I'm all for it too.
As I originally said, the vauxhall /opel C20 engine turbo'd and set the rev limit at 10000 rpm. It'll be a screamer. Or put in the 4wd system from the 90s vauxhall calibras/cavalier turbos.
I think the Opel C20XE would be a very cool and fitting swap actually, given the car's origins. Would love to see that, but i'll be looking forward to whatever you guys decide!
I concur.
It is a known combo.
twin hayabusa turbo (front and rear mounted with gear linkage joining the two) motors? Easy 800hp plus with 4wd. They fit in anything as they’re tiny and who’s got a Torana that revs to 11k? Plenty of tuning parts available too. It would be mental.
It'd be nice to see the C20XE out of the Barina/Corsa fired in.
But can't help but think what a 3SGE Beams out of a Altezza would be like in it?
Maybe a more realistic choice, as I bet XE's aren't exactly common in 'Straya and getting go fast bits wouldn't be as easy either.
Can be Turbo'd later on and come with a RWD gearbox.
That said, I'm not too fussed with what you fit. As it's gonna be fun watching Scotty fitting it 👍.
Surely a v6 out of a magna would make for a cool swap; cheap, unusual, easily boosted...
Yep they go really well when swapped into a Hyundai excel.
Definitely underrated and pretty bloody tough we have flogged our motor hard.
they are fast too those v6 magnas
Love the idea of the rotary, only other option I'd consider is the 4G63T. Lots of horsepower available there too
I was thinking AWD Evo conversion.
For something very different you could do a ford ecoboost 2.3, plenty power parts available and they make great power
Would love to see a rotary in this car, bring on the BRAP’s!
I as a horse enthusiast recommend the opel motor, I feel there would be a massive following if you go down this rabbit hole
K Swap makes sense, or alternatively a 2.5 Duratec (high revving NA, Mountune style). Be great to see a Pro Tourer style approach to the Torana over the usual pro street/drag thing.
Yep duratec all the way but keep the turbo.
2GR-FSE, 3RZ+T, 3SGTE just a 2JZ minus a few cylinders! All have great aftermarket support, still available and not too expensive.
Quad peripheral port rotor. Another engine to throw into the mix is the 4G63 mitsi or stroker version. Very capable motor Golby’s sell a 2.2 stroker kit capable of 1100hp and 10k rpm ready to go
With AWD Evo conversion
I like the four cylinder idea. I didn't even think about the Opel motor, but that's a great idea.
Yeah go the rotary!
I had a HB in the mid 80's and was going to BRAP it but that never happened...Make it happen mate....That's what I recon Scotty.
My vote is either 4G63T or C20XE. There's a great 4G63 RWD facebook page with lots of info, and heaps of rwd conversion parts and bellhousings are available these days. If you use the C20XE from the Barina, you can use a gearbox from a late TF Rodeo with the C22NE engine, or a 4 cylinder RA Rodeo with the C24SE, they are the same engine family and the sump/pickup may be useful aswell, they're a rear hump.
Or a NA rotary that revs to the moon, keeping the car light and agile, maybe more of a hill climb car or circuit car instead of the normal drag builds :)
Definitely not LS or Barra, or even JZ, I would like.to see something definitely different since you have a complete blank canvas. Rotors have been done. I like the idea of others of the Ecoboost or a Cosworth. If you weren't so against the commodore V6 I'd go that. I put a VS V6 turbo in my 77 Corolla with a 5 sp and it hooks up and shoots better then some supercharged V8s I've given a go.
As someone who owns a turbo 6 gtr I'd love to see something completely new that nobody else has done. Something like a V6 turbo diesel from a navara or amarok or maybe a turbo hayabusa engine
Add a vote in for the 3RZ here. Plenty tough for boost, plenty of bellhousing options.
Honestly the idea of a rotary in this would be pretty neat
Dorito swap sounds fun. 3 rotors sound amazing with the right exhaust.
Hands down C20XE, this channel is about learning, experience, experiments and teaching others about how we can achieve different results.
I think an honest 4cyl conversion would be a great opportunity to see how well it will compete against larger capacity engines, and a great addition as s ground up 4cyl build.
Scotty, u got me excited when u said a hemi lol 🤙🏼 looking forward to this build mate.
Come on guys, go a 13b rotary! Its currently a 1300cc, 13b's are 1300cc. It makes sense.
Whatever you do, NO BARRA PLEASE! I LOVE the Barra and I'd love to have one here in the US, but in Australia I'm getting tired of seeing them swapped into everything.
Plus no jz or Rb all these swaps while good are getting predictable
Agreed but you gotta realize shit here is expensive so we tend to go for the cheaper options and green top barras can be picked up for 400 bucks and are capable of 700hp+ for as little as 8k in comparison a set of aftermarket heads for like a 350 chev are around 5 6k.
Suggestion way out of left field, but what about a Buick/Rover 3.5 V8? There would have to be stacks of Range Rovers rusted out in backyards? They’re small, alloy, light and with decent internals can make really good power. Plus they sound brilliant.
Anyone saying JZ didn't watch TSF 😅
I know you said no 308, but the old iron lion does seem to be coming back in vogue. Maybe a budget VN headed 355, with a 200 shot of dope backed by a TH350?
The internet: Hell yeah 2JZ!
Al: Use ya brain!
Something different! I'd live to see a C20LET setup! Didn't even know these were a thing! You've got it there ready to go. Don't go rotary. Been done too many times!
I like the sound of going a rotary!
Also if you’re just gonna get rid of the old running gear , i’d love to buy it off you , i’ve got a Hb torana , but sadly no spare steering columns :(
The 2J would certainly hammer. I was thinking 2 other combo's -
1) 2 x 13B rotary's. One behind the other with turbo's - High rev's, converter, auto.
2) Old school. Street machine did a piece on a 4.4 litre alloy Rover V8 years ago, bored and/or stroked to 5 litres. All alloy so light weight, bang a turbo or 2 on it, injection...Light weight with V8 goodness.
RB 30 sounds like the engine you're looking for. But DON'T go twin cam, the SOHC make plenty of power and the twin cam conversion ads a lot of extra things to go wrong! ask me how I know haha
BUMP
I got a rb30 with a 13b vtec head in my lada fuck it goes hard
@@richardiceman1888 I bet it does haha
Team Dorito ... had an anglia back in the day with a 10a . Is one of my many sales i have regretted over the years
Vauxhall’s red top is a beast of an engine and would be really cool in a retro tuning style car. But my vote would be for the rotary you just cannot beat the noise of a bridge ported three or four rotor motor at idle 😎
Audi 07K RS3 motor would be cool too, definitely out of the box and 5 cylinders sound good wild.
Even a built 4JJ1 or 1KD/KZ would be cool. Plenty of bits out there to build them too
You won't hear me utter these words to often Scotty 😂 but I reckon stay with the 4cyl theme.
Have a look at theToyota 3RZ...talk to the Hoff (Nugget Garage) or maybe an ecoboost from a mustang...should be pretty easy finding a donor.
If you struggle to find 1.
You can trap a mustang in the wild very easily.
Have a small group of expendable people, also known as the bait, gather on a nearby sidewalk.
If you're unable to acquire said individuals, mannequins will do in a pinch.
Now using another vehicle with an obnoxiously loud exhaust, slowly circle the block driving past the bait, while revving the vehicle.
This will help lure the mustang in to the trap, enticing and exciting the driver in to a frenzy.
Allow a minute for the driver to fully commit and voila!
1 freshly wrecked donor mustang...now the owner being in a state of shock, will take any help/money offered to remove the vehicle as quickly as possible, wishing to avoid the police, further embarrassment regarding their driving prowess and not wanting to be a part of the next 'mustang driver mega crash compilation' on UA-cam. 😂😂😂
I like the Barina motor option best. A 2JZ or RB would be cool too but keep its roots together. As others have said the Torana started as a Vauxhall Viva.
Rotor would be awesome! But I reckon the Opel motor would be cool and you already have it so big plus there. Maybe an RB20det surely would be the cheapest RB of the lot.
Yes my vote too, can spin some high rpms RB20det
For a while GM offered the Ecotec 2.0L DOHC Turbo as a crate engine with a six speed box included. We got that engine in the ZB Commodore, figure out the box and get the crate engine control setup, golden
Go for the 20B please. Lots of Dorito fans and builders out there.
At 10grand plus for an unknown kays 20b these days that's not a very good idea.
The 2.4ltr 6cyl Datsun 240k SSS motor with a stage 3 fuel injection kit. It's old school keeping with the Torana's age.
Turbo rotary would be exciting 👌
Not sure if a rotary had been done on carnage but it's a good idea
Yep, Rotory for sure.
i love boost don't get me wrong but some of the NA Rota sound like little F1 engines.
@@jungofett yeah Even a na rotary would be great, no need for a turbo
Especially on a light body
3RZ almost the only engine still out there that is affordable in its native form. Lots of aftermarket engine and gearbox support for it too. Rotaries mega expensive these days, having to buy a complete engine, and then rebuild it with new parts and some go fast internal bits and pieces you’re looking $12k+ at least. Hurt it bad enough and throw it all away and have to spend another $12k… I do have one sitting on the garage floor collecting dust though haha
A Volkswagen W8 from the Passat?… It’s not such a crazy idea, it’s compact, pretty light and would be completely unique. Orrr even the VR6 out of the Golf, which would be even more compact, unique and potentially easier to find.
I dunno I’m all about the VW ideas.
Loving the content Scotty, you have a lot of forced induction cars already. How about an N/A 4 or 6 swap, high comp and ITB trumpets backed by a 5 speed, built for corners as you have enough drag cars already. Keep up the great work.
Go the Chook Cooker option, please tho, make it a street car, engineered and rego.
Show the build process including the engineer etc.
This is "Street Machine" not "towed to a drag strip"
100% agree. Make ut a street car.
It all comes down to what sort of times and power needed to achieve those times and then look at your budget. i have made 420hp at the wheels from a stock bottom end sr reliably so that would be my choice. again comes down to your budget and expected track times.
My first thought was K series, but I'm leaning towards turbo charged rotary, would fit beautifully!
I think a rotary would be cool to see , there an interesting engine.and would make good content , I'm keen to see what you could do with one 👍
I'd love to see a K swap engine converted to rear drive configuration with the engineering associated to make it work
Check out Taylor rays videos on UA-cam his done it im not a 4banger fan but it's cool
Bill hincher does plenty fb , youtube it. Glide /th400 with a K rocks
I would love to see the Opel C20xe go into the torana, I have plenty of experience with this motor owning a Calibra and my own big block Barina plus a spare C20xe & the turbo variant C20LET, I can also tell you the box from a 2.4L rodeo (C24SE) will bolt up to the engine as the gen2 motors shared the same bolt pattern and that’s a common box and you can source here in Australia
My vote would be a twin turbo Honda J32/J35/J38 SOHC V6 with a RWD 6 speed manual. The K series is a GREAT engine and they make alot of horsepower and torque, but the Honda V6s have displacement along with torque and are plenty capable of making 500 whp on 10-12 lbs of boost. I made 502 whp with my J32A (3.2L) with a Garrett GTS3582 turbo and that was at 10.2 psi on 93 octane pump gas.
Built with rod's, pistons and valve springs. Way more potential.
first thing i thought of was the c20 from the barina. but if you want something different either a rotary or boxer engine even if just for the sounds
In the 90's one of our mates had the same car running a 13b then later and blown 13b and was like green and known locally in Penrith as the Rotana.....very tough little car
Convert it to AWD and put a boxer engine in it :D
Anything but Barra and ls
THE BARINA ENGINE!!! TURBO👌👌👌
Well- No LS, no Barra, no JZ, 308/304 been done a million times...
Maybe a V6 Qaud cam from like a Camry/ Kluger or such (Prado V6 is a 4lt), or a rev happy 4 banger from something with a turbo
2GR Power. Cheap, reliable and heap of aftermarket parts available!
Go Dorito power!! ... reminds me of a green Torana with a rotor in it from back in the day.
Maybe an sr20t makes decent power with a few mods
They cost SO MUCH these days, whereas the CA motors out of the lower-model S13 Silvias are a dime a dozen at import wreckers, and they can be built to make good power quite cheaply.
Sr20s are shit . K series all the way
@@ChristopherHallett CA wasn't out of " lower models" it's the older motor and were only replaced because they were more expensive to make. The Sr was a cheaper mass produce design.
Mercedes all alloy 5L V8, AMG 5 speed auto and AMG rear end, nat. aspirated - light, lots of power, very reliable, plenty of parts still available. Cheers Dave C.
Scotty and EV have the paramedics ready 🤣
No matter the engine it will be great viewing keep up the good work.
Love the build Scotty, I have a LS powered LX but I think you need a later model V6 single turbo, like a Honda J series V6 or a Nissan VQ V6 then a cheap eBay turbo, they both make huge power and are low buck wreaker motors 🤷♂️
Just for something completely different drop a massive superbike engine in it. 🤣
I would toss in an Opel, as I have an older one for just such a project. However a rotor would be the ideal choice and what I was thinking while watching.
Would love to see it as a streeter, but if it has to be a track day car it needs to circuit, hillclimb and drag.
I'd love to see a rotary swap, or if we're going to go left field, a Honda F20C or K24 swap would be awesome. Strong internals, compact size to fit in the stubby nose Torana and respond very well to boost.
I have a rough semi complete roller you can have for $1500 is a 4 door not 2 door and it's in qld but if your keen let me know
The brapp would be fun but I reckon a four cylinder engine of some sort would be good, change it up a bit. Whether a similar engine to the Barina or the Honda engine you mentioned.
I also liked a suggestion someone else made to go with a pro tourer theme on this one instead of drag racing.
Let's face it, whatever you do I'll happily watch it.
The 2J idea sounds amazing, provided it fits even with some chopping! I think it would be awesome to try and crack a thousand hp with very minimal upgrades, not too mention the amount of aftermarket support available should you decide to really build the motor! :)
New meets old, I like the idea of the Barina engine. As stated they can make good power, it's not a commonly used engine in Aus (I'm getting a vibe that you want something unique).
2J gets used in a lot of conversions, just like LS and Barra.
Ya have to work within a budget and you have a 2J there or the Barina engine. Either of those would be pretty cool or a 20B rotor with all the trimmings to ruffle some feathers and get the comments going. Hey it could end up being the new golden egg for the channel Scotty hahaha 😅
Ever considered doing a Z32SE V6 in Nth Sth config Scotty? I did once own a ZC Vectra (if you hadn’t guessed already) and those things are nuts!
I like the rotation idea
Definitely go with the rotary!!!
I would love to see a rotary powered Torana, especially if you eventually turbo it
Rotary all the way in this case Scotty
That vn that old mate slapped together is a bit of fun
But to be honest
Low Weight + decent power = fast
2JZ +torana = good power/weight
Rotorana = AWESOME PWR and marketing opp
Think of the shirts/hats/stickers
I’m a lion lover through and through but in the stable you guys have
ROTORANA FTW
What about doing up a blue or black 202 for it and taking out to the track after every few mods done. By the end of the build stroke and turbo or supercharge it. Aim for the 10's with it and making a little challenge for you blokes.
Either K swap or the rotary would both be great engines for this car and no major mods to the chassis/body for either engine.
Although unless you know where to get a rotary cheaply they’re almost as expensive as a LS….mainly 13B a little less for the 12A
On the same lines as the barina, go for a 2.0 Duratec out of a focus. Guys in the UK use them in old escorts and make great power.
I have an 08 you can have if you do, less than 100000k on it, apart from sunburnt paint and needing a jump start it's good to go. And I'm pretty local to you. Missus upgraded to a larger kid hauler during early lockdown so it's been parked ever since.
Plus you'd be doing me a favour, 1 less unreg car to move everytime I mow
My litter brother is currently building an NA K24 for his MK2 Cortina, its being built by APM in Sydney and will be a street/strip built engine and be in the neighborhood of 400hp also will spin to 10000ish rpm. I never really liked them due to the 'fart cannon' noise associated with them, but when I was told NA 400hp 4cyl turning at 9500-10000rpm for around $6-7.5K I cant think of a better option in that lightweight car. Also this will be an engine you haven't done on this channel it may bring in more viewers from abroad (which these engines do have quite the cult following). I'd get in quick on these engine while there are plenty around still, $500-1000 from a wrecker and these WILL be the next LS or Barra price skyrocket type engine.
Rotary is a close second, but you will be paying for it.
Being a v8 fan i didnt think i would suggest this, but why not do an epic build a bit like the boys at bad obsession motorsport did with the project binky, and do a full all wheel drive setup using a vw golf r engine and driveline?
Would put your skills to the test and be an awesome track car.
TRD Aurion 2GR Supercharged, you can get sleeves for them, and maybe try to brace the open deck somehow.
As sson as you revealed this car my brain said "rotary swap would be class" and seeing those doritos made me laugh. I would LOVE to see a heavily ported and boosted rotor in that snubby little torana!!
Hey Scotty, love the old school Torrie! What about an Astron 2600 turbo! About 130kw and loads of potential to push it hard! Cheers