average eastern europe moment, frankly. i felt the game was even somewhat realistic in that regard, though obviously to a comedic extent sometimes - it’s encouraged all too often by the educational system and the family structure here unfortunately
This type of behaviour from adults is common in Eastern Europe.] Some parts were exaggerated, like the teacher's part when Agatha died and mom sliding food under the door.
If Johan has 100 haters I’m one of them. If Johan has 10 haters I’m one of them. If Johan has 1 hater I am that hater. If Johan has no haters I am dead.
Interestingly, when Filip and Johan discuss his rat shenanigans on the third day, the english subtitles say "Did you forgot to shower?" while what actually been said is "What, did you have your water supply cut off again?".
@@enderkatze6129 I think that's more localisation than translation. Also if it was an intentional change I think that it diminishes the point by doing so. I think most players would be able to understand the concept of having the water cut off, regardless of what country they're from.
@@enderkatze6129 ?? It's a pretty universal concept and happens to more people and families in America than you may think. I think it makes more sense and has a greater impact if the subtitles were directly translated- I appreciate that the original commenter pointed that out ^^
@@Zeifos_Plus, I think it adds to the whole child abuse aspect, with Filip only having a single mom who has the work the night shift sometimes and can't afford the water bill
One of the most scary games for me just because of how real the story feels. Kids being cruel and adults doing nothing to properly teach them. Teachers being absolutely ignorant to children issues and punishing whoever they got first, not caring, who is really guilty. And yeah, sadly, families like this are a common thing, at least from the stories I hear. Also, the way every character speaks here also feels natural
What do you mean by parents doing nothing? The Agatha father beat her I think every time she misbehaving, bc she had 0 wish to go home . And Jonathan said that if your parents beat you that means that they love you. I think his parents beat him too, and very often, and then apologize and say that they love him and doing it only for him? That's why he is thinking that doing cruel pranks and then just a single apology can make things better. Parent's do a lot in this game.
It was unnerving how realistic it was, especially Johan starting out with animals as the disturbed usually do. And the whole thing feels like recalled memories of a broken childhood. The lighting especially.
That's why Paganism & the idea of Pagan Gods are better than the Christian God, to me. Everyone acts like the indifference of the Christian God punching you in life is because he's awful. If a Pagan God Punches you, it's because they've taken time out of their schedule, to specifically make you suffer in a way that is going to hurt you the most, because YOU are awful.
@@impkiller5932 Johan lives with only his mother now, his father was the one who killed a beaver and gave it to his son, likely also reflecting the same traits Johan had, the mother seemed to have run away from him but Johan loves his dad because he "loved him" (beat him) and killed animals to give to him. all theories but seens possible.
Do people not realize that the boombox that johan used earlier is what mimicked agatha voice which tricked filip? I see nobody bring that up so far but it feels like foreshadowing!
I feel bad for the teachers here too. They don't get paid enough already, and now they're dealing with generations after generations of immature and unreasonable kids that test their patience.
@@theotv5522 true but the teachers were also very dismissive, sure the kids may have done pranks on them but to straight up not believe a kid when they tell you their other friend is passed out and could die is so evil
@@iam878 Have you heard about the story of the boy that cried wolf? Considering the fact these are very nasty kids I would imagine they told lies like this regularly, to the point the teachers just got tired of it all. You can’t blame the teachers here when they’re the victim of such harassment.
@@theotv5522 so what? if a child is in danger you should ALWAYS believe them. in real life cases she would, or at least should be put in jail for this.
My mother is a teacher, you can't imagine how hard it is to give an extra lesson, and if another teacher suddenly leaves? It's a catastrophe, others have to quickly divide and take their lessons, sometimes a whole shift, not to mention how unfair the principal can be with teachers. In villages, as in the video, it's much worse. Giving lessons, especially with kids like these, is *very* hard. I can understand why Klubnika was angry with Filip and Johan, I'd be on her side if I knew how these kids usually joke, but since she represents a careless adult, as all adults in this game do, yeah, she made a bad decision. Moreover, as far as I know, teachers don't have the right to give pupils detention
@@xXxXxXxAllianaxXxXxX I especially like how the ending credits are shown and in the background you can hear a recording from the boombox of the kids having fun and laughing. Such a harrowing little game.
I speak Russian and Serbian, this language they speak is neither of them yet I understand almost everything. Found out it's some artificial language called 'interslavic" pretty cool.
It's quite interesting. Does it work by combining similar words from different Slavic languages? I know languages of similar origin often have similar words.
This kid was a sociopath in the making. It always starts with animals. Also why is the main character’s mom sliding food under the door? Why isn’t Filip allowed to eat at the table?
The most horrifying part is how believable it all feels. I've gotten the impression that too many of the Slavic people live in incredibly brutal environments and I feel all the different parts of this game lean into it. From the cruel pranks, to the dad, to the one teaching bemoaning that "you're just as heartless as the rest of the world," to the other teacher refusing to care anymore. There is a theme of an incredibly cruel environment that spares no one, that the ones who survive the monsters are the monsters.
I'm not Slavic, but grew up similar. No kidding. This shit felt like my childhood. Just the casuality of having shared abuse and the desensitation of it.
No wonder, after Soviet Union collapsed the whole Eastern Europe has slipped into a terrible state, if you omit the horrid 90s. People were angry with the governments, a lot of citizens lost their jobs, crime rate went flying up, and people like Agatha's father didn't surprise anyone. People just had nothing to do without a job and a future.
Saying it was just a prank is a viable argument in court. I killed 140 people over the course of 5 years, represented myself and got declared innocent by saying that it was just a prank. True story, don’t look it up.
I SWEAR after he ran back to the school and had to stay until it got dark it sounded like there were muffled noises coming from the trunk of that suspicious car that's been standing there the entire time. That couple with the 'missing' posters really made me think someone else snatched up Johan and Agatha while he was gone.
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Y'all this rocks, you guys made a wonderful game and you should be proud. The environments remind me of my grandmother's house on the outskirts of Kyiv where I used to spend a lot of time (my family is all from Ukraine but my parents and 2/3 of my siblings now live in Australia), and the language reminds me of the linguistic slurry that happened when my sister and I tried to help my nephew with his math homework and I didn't know the appropriate math terms so we had to play translation telephone. It's wonderful, and i wish you luck in future projects!
I wonder if Johan was picking on Agatha on purpose, getting her in trouble at school bc he actually knew her dad would react badly- the murder was obviously unintended, but throughout the game its pretty clear that he's a psychopath. Also, her Dad obviously wasn't going to be helpful in any way even if she HAD mentioned the bullying (more than just asking the player to get her out of trouble, since the game purposely leaves it unknown if she ACTUALLY did anything or if Johan DID make something up). The player's parent is also mostly absent, which shows that Johan was thinking ahead by getting a friend that couldn't easily go get a parent when the 'pranks' started going too far.
Well, that was depressing. Very effective and good at its goal too. Tragic, broken families, the escalation of "pranks", and teachers dropping the ball as hard as possible. That was great.
In my case it obviously didnt reach this point, but I was friends with the "oddly violent and volatile kid at school" and this game absolutely nailed the feeling of seemingly walking on a minefield at all times. The "who matters most to you, Agatha or me?" Question brought back A LOT of things. Great game with great atmosphere.
people talking about how naming him Johan was the first mistake but nobody talking about what his barber did to him, how could you not be a lunatic with a cut like that 😭
I think maybe it's AI? I don't know I feel like the screams and laughs are just stock sound effects and the rest is ai, doesn't sound as robotic as most AI but the lack of much emotional fluctuation makes me think it must be
I find it funny how people are making comments hating Johan, but no comments about how bad all the adults are in general and could have help prevent a lot of this.
Literally if the teacher had just believed Filip when he told her Agatha was injured, Johan could've been stopped before the murders. It might've been too late for poor Agatha though, as Filip says she wasn't breathing after she fell
then you need to scroll longer than just 2 seconds and actually look, cuz I’ve seen a few people talk about how all the adults in the game were awful, absuive or neglectful
The saddest thing is how Filip won't even ask for help from his mom and how clueless she is. He ran to a teacher for aid immediately and got punished for someone eles cruel pranks
Man, those teachers were pretty realistic, and so were the abusive parents. I've known people in Agatha's circumstances IRL, they're absolute cinnamon rolls. If the game gave me an option to sell out Johan to her dad, I'd have done it in a femtosecond, _because I've also known people like Johan._
Good luck blaming it on johan when her inhaler is still in the closet and her chopped off head is on your desk. Don't you think one psycho after you is enough
Fun easter egg for slavic/russian people. The photo you first hit with a ball, that gave you an achievement, is a photo of popular russian youtuber - KuplinovPlay.
@@MassiveDestructionSP Kids are still developing. That doesn't mean they'll necessarily be fine even if you take them out of abusive/neglectful situations, but they might still have empathy more or less like anybody else by the time they're in their 20s.
@Nassifeh eh, sociopathy, from what I understand, is baked in very very early on. Like, before 10 years old. It is widely considered one of the hardest to treat personality disorder (all of which are on their own difficult to treat).
@@MassiveDestructionSP Except in modern psychiatry, "sociopathy" doesn't exist. In the DSM-V, you can't even be diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder until you're 18. You will have started showing signs of ASPD early if it's present later... _in hindsight_. But you can't look at a neglected kid harming animals and say they're going to have ASPD later. It's not that we're all "baked in" by age 10, it's that anybody who was fine by late childhood is unlikely to develop this particular kind of issue later. Not that it's super easy to treat any kind of childhood disordered behavior like this, but like, in the real world, there aren't just some kids who oops got broken and are now evil. It's all about the complexity of the surrounding family and systems.
@@MassiveDestructionSP Sociopathy isn't a real personality disorder. There's narcissistic personality disorder and antisocial personality disorder, but sociopathy and psychopathy exist only in fiction
As someone from Eastern Europe, I really appreciate the Slavic aesthetics in this game: carpets on the wall, the bear painting in the classroom (Morning in a Pine Forest by Shiskin and Savitsky), picture of Kuplinov (a popular streamer and gamer from Russia), socialist-realist posters with Billy Herrington, *BOBER* etc.
34:59 "the original story was written in the language of pain" how dare you make me laugh like that after such a harrowing game lmao but seriously, this was good. suspenseful pacing, unnerving visuals, cool mishmash of languages as 'interslavic'.. and the horrors of not only a young psychopath, but child abuse and neglect from every adult in the game.. this was real good.
What scares me the most is how I knew early on that Johan was most likely some kind of threat. Animal abuse/torture without remorse in children is typically the first sign of a developing murderer. I liked how they used such a big detail right off the bat, because, just like real life, that sort of thing is easily overlooked and dismissed since they’re just kids.
I kept wondering why these characters seemed strangely familiar, and I realized it’s similar to Rule of Rose’s twisted story and way the orphans were brought up/treated each other. Crazy 😢
Honestly liked the layers and the dark undertone this game had. It felt real in a sense and yet had a plot in the making that you knew would become dark. It servered foreshadowing future events and didnt let the story become boring
"It's just a prank." The catchphrase of pranktubers around the world seconds before getting their asses kicked by total strangers they attempted to humiliate
I thought this was going to be just about child death, but as soon as Agatha begged Filip to tell her dad Johan made it up, I knew things were going to get EXTRA dark. The phone call and Johan talking about his obsession with playing with dead animals and torturing a still-living rat just confirmed that the title is pretty damn accurate. Edit: why tf did 100 people like this comment? Thanks for liking despite me not noticing I typed "famn" instead of "damn," lmao
Well, you mentioned the one thing everyone isn't talking about. Even manly was attributing Johans issues to his environment when in reality he would've always ended up that way good upbringing or not. Torturing animals is the biggest, brightest red flag. The moment he started talking about the eats, I knew he was evil.
@@Letycs With better guardians, he probably wouldn't have ended up torturing animals. There's a reason most serial killers don't come from good upbringings
@@paniiziima I mainly wanted to make a joke about how people still agreed with my comment despite a silly typo. Besides that, tons of people thank people for liking their comments.
Lmao As a Polish person I need to mention 7:51 XD it’s a Polish meme with guy who seen beaver at night in a city and basically he say „Fuck! A beaver!” And chase him trying to pet it but it bites him. Stupid but funny
I think in the original video the beaver just runs to the water and "drowns itself", according to the guy filming it. After it became popular, other people began "discovering" beavers and other wild animals, including the guy who got bitten.
@@LenPet-nu8zcIt's actually Interslavic, which is an artificial language comprised of multiple Slavic languages. I believe the deva chose to use it instead of a specific language to lend to the game's setting being recognisably post-Soviet Eastern Europe, but not any specific country. From Wikipedia: 《Interslavic (Medžuslovjansky / Меджусловјанскы) is a pan-Slavic auxiliary language. Its purpose is to facilitate communication between speakers of various Slavic languages, as well as to allow people who do not speak a Slavic language to communicate with Slavic speakers by being mutually intelligible with most, if not all, Slavic languages.》
@@Furina5OO What I mean is, I could see many games Expressly Sacrificing narrative considerations purely to give a Decision to players. I'm not surprised there's a reason, I'm surprised that there being a reason is sufficient.
This game got way too real. Filip has no backbone and Johan's just the worst, unempathetic, manipulative, violent... Drove even the nicest adult in the game up the wall. Seriously up to a certain point she was the only caring one among all the adults. And what the hell's that younger teacher's deal?! Agatha said she was having an asthma attack and she was like "I'm so tired of this shit" and didn't even listen to Filip later on. Not a single ounce of care. These poor kids man, they deserved to have better adults around them, maybe things would have turned out much better then.
@@Jessebonnie If they were a alternative route where she managed to get revenge om us and also on the phone call sceme we can tell what actually happen for Agatha's protection.
I knew Johan was a psychopath, but I wasn't expecting THAT at the end. I guess the framing thing was a red herring. Who would've guessed the kid that does taxidermy on beavers and rats, for fun, isn't right in the head?
hey now, there's nothing wrong with taxidermy, it's an art form with a lot of history and cultural significance. it's the capture and torture of the animals before the taxidermy that are the problem.
I live in the Philippines, and things like this are common in the slums. Street children do terrible pranks, and bully each other, lots of crying and blood(when kids hit each other with blunt things) adults don't care and neglect the kids, and the teachers in public schools don't care either when fighting occurs because there's so much chaos within the public schools near slums where classes can take up to 70 students and just 1 teacher(overpopulation here is always from the slums).
Ms. Vishnevska was an angel. I hate it when rotten kids torture kind teachers like that. I had one like that in high school. She was very sweet, very caring, understanding and forgiving. The students verbally harassed her: mocked her choice of vocation, called her fat and ugly, refused to answer her when she asked questions about the lessons. They also "pranked" her fairly often: stealing her supplies, hiding them in high places she couldn't reach, put things under or around her desk so she'd trip or knock things over. She also quit, but it was quietly and sad. She was just gone one day. I was always kind and honest with her. I thanked her as often as I remembered for being our teacher. As a 14 year old, I didn't know what else to do. I knew to tell adults if I was being harassed, or if another student was being harassed. But in my undeveloped brain, I didn't know or think to tell someone if an adult was being bullied. Kids can be cruel and vicious for no reason. Manly did point out that it often comes from broken backgrounds, but sometimes it seems like they just enjoy being mean. Like a power trip or something. (I'm thinking of one guy in particular. I knew his family cuz I was good friends with his younger sister. They were really nice, generous with their love and affection. Even with him. When he was with them he was a completely different person. Polite, grateful, responsible. I don't know what his deal was.)
A brief reminder that there are not only kids out there Johan, but fully-grown *adults* like Johan. And, surprisingly, many of them make a decent living off of their vile "pranks". And they don't even have the excuse that they're kids who, sadly, don't know any better.
I see Johan is a modern day youtube prankster in the making. "Hey, today I'm going to prank my best friend by pretending to give him a box of strawberry cupcakes! Let's film his reaction when he starts opening that box and sees it ain't cupcakes...!"
Him answering to phone in Japanese out of no where made me laugh so hard. He’s always so calm and collected and will seemingly say random and unexpected things that crack me up in every video.
10:30 oh my god... my jaw dropped the whole time.. I ever cried a little.. this is horrible.. those screams omg.. poor girl. 😢 This game is terrifying because this sort of thimg really happens to too many children. 😢 I'm honestly not sure I can keep watching this.
@@zerotodona1495 yeah...sometimes, depending on the circumstances. That though. NO. She wasn't "just getting whipped". That was a beatdown by an agray father who WILL hurt others if he thinks he's been slighted in anyway, accidental or not. When it comes to whippings, there are limits. and that dad absolutely broke them.
I've lived in a similar environment and people like this- except the child beheading child thing, of course. and it creeped me out how accurite the mannerism are; "it just means they love you", the teacher getting bullied by the students, the teacher punishing a student for doing nothing wrong, etc etc
The scream on the phone reminded me of a real recording of an elderly woman ringing 911 to report a man outside. Just as she does she gets attacked and the screaming truly makes your blood run cold. Luckily she did survive, it's easily available to listen to after all.
You can pick up from very early on how messed up each of the children's situations are: Filip only has interactions with his mom which are limited to her calling through his door and only providing cereal for every meal. While his mom didn't particularly seem abusive or hateful by any standard, it's definitely an indicator of neglect. Just from context clues, Filip's family might just be him and his mother (who is either just single, divorced, or widowed) who has to occasionally work overtime to make ends meet. It's hard to tell if the cereal through the door is because she can't be bothered to cook, it's because that's all she can afford, or if that's all she feels her son deserves as we don't actually get much of a view into this situation. It could just be that the mother is tired from work and slips the cereal under the door because there's no point in coming to eat at the dinner table since she'd not be there or any number of reasons. Regardless, Filip is in a position where he's neglected by his mother and not being fed like he should which is a recipe for children to act out in any kind of way they can for attention. Agatha's family circumstances... There's no way to beat around the bush that the only interaction or indicator we have of parental interaction is her dad. She may be in a similar situation to Filip where her mom's situation isn't outwardly said, but it may or may not be a cause of her dad's likely drinking problem. Her dad is abusive towards her and will beat her when she does something that he deems to be wrong but clearly in a way that prevents people from actively seeing or noticing bruises on her (while we could chalk that up to neglectful adults, notice that none of the kids comment on bruises either despite knowing her being beaten). Agatha has asthma and needs inhalers which tend to cost a lot of money depending on the area you're living in which may unfortunately be a contributing factor in how he treats her as well, either viewing her as invalid or seeing the inhaler as something that takes away money from him. She makes comments pleading with Filip to make Johan take the fall for any potential pranks she has done so her dad won't get mad at her. And when she is beaten, the next day she doesn't talk about the situation, as if she's trying to keep that in as her friends have shown they are not willing to help her. She only states that her father owns the TV which means she can't do the child-like thing which is watch cartoons and when "going home" with Filip, telling him that she doesn't want to go home. Interestingly, Johan mentions before all of this that he's had unpleasant interactions with Agatha's father without going into too many details other than saying that he would likely just "yell at her". This shows that Johan might have been actually yelled at and beaten by her father so he knows how scary he is. Not to mention how despite being told by Filip that Johan had nothing to do with Agatha's actions, the father still showed up to Johan's house in a drunken stupor and threw a rock into his house, shattering the window. Johan has a lot to unpack in his case, but the clear context on his parental situation (despite never seeing either parent once or having any dialogue from them) is that his parents are divorced and he lives with his mom while his dad lives in the city. Johan's offhand comments make me worry about the situation he's living in with his mother considering one talk with both Agatha and Filip about wanting to move back to his dad in the city made the two of them want to go live with Johan there too. Johan's comment regarding his father could mean that his father is genuinely a good parent and takes care of him and the other kids well or alternatively neglects Johan by not providing much meaningful reaction but still lets him do whatever he wants as a way to pacify or placate him into behaving. His mother however is clearly the opposite. Johan makes comments every now and then that are very chilling and disturbing (aside from the animal abuse and killing) with the idea of "parents go easy on their children" and essentially telling Agatha that her father beats her because he loves her so it's technically for her own good. This really points to his mother treating Johan in the same way as Agatha though potentially to a lesser degree as she tells Johan that she's doing that for his own good and out of love and care for him (which is not true in the slightest). It's actually stated that there's a contributing factor of childhood traumatic events that damage a child's psyche and could likely be a cause for a child to begin killing or become a serial killer (Note: clearly not all children under circumstances like this will become killers which is clearly shown with both Filip and Agatha's situations being very similar to Johan's, it's just unfortunate that Johan picked up these habits). Seeing Johan's comments regarding his dad in a positive light but never really mentioning his mom outside of her going after Agatha's dad for breaking one of their windows, it's not far off to say that she either didn't care or didn't even notice Johan starting to pick up unsavory habits like pranking and then moving up to killing/torturing animals. Had he been in better circumstances with more parental guidance, a lot of these actions he committed could have potentially been prevented or at the least, he may have been able to seek help despite the current circumstances. Overall, there's surprisingly a lot to unpack in this game despite the length. It's very complex despite the extremely dark nature, sometimes all too realistic, of the story which adds to the horror elements.
youknow the visual of this game is very much similar to an old traumatic memory, everythings a little empty, there are gaps between stuff you tune out in memories, the lighting blocks out details that youve come to forget over time like peoples expressions. It really helps add to the experience.
I wasn't sure exactly how the story would end, but as soon as Johan nonchalantly brought up killing rats, that little voice in the back of my head spoke, "Oh... oh no. That can not be good." But it didn't quite click immediately because Filip didn't seem particularly fazed by it. Once the hide 'n seek went off the rails, that little voice chimed in again, "Uh huh, told ya."
@@drewgoin8849for the record, this isnt 100% polish language, someone in the comments said its an artificial language called ‚interslavic’. Just so you know. (Im a polish native.) But to answer your question: for example when Johan is talking about their mother not taking the stuffed beaver, they straight up call her a bitch instead of ‚stupid mom’ as translation says.
@@FalseNoizia Yeah, but you can kinda understand if you have any Slavic language knowledge. I know Russian and a bit of Ukranian so I can confirm the English dub is quite gentle
Why do I think johan planned all of this? From taking care of the second teacher who looks like who cares about her student's wellbeing to going into the forest then putting a nail in filip's seat he would be punished to stay at the school until late and then finally preparing and pulling of his final prank for filip. Johan would probably grow up be that serial killer with 20+ body counts in the future.
Fun fact: This a rare sequence of Second Person (as in First Person, or Third Person). In a game, second Person is when you control a character but see through the eyes of another person. Another example would be the first boss of Battletoads (NES), where you fight a giant robot throwing rocks at the camera.
@@Pabloto-dq3sx theres a list of youngest ... "unalivers" (dang it youtube) on Wikipedia. There is a younger than 13 section, with ages under 5 included. You may also find a few videos on the topic on youtube. Its unfortunately easy to find them...
oh damn *that part* with Agatha, and then the cold way the kids try to just shrug it off the next day because they don't know how to deal with it... this was really good. A lot of indie horror games have zero restraint but the devs here did a great job of heavily implying what happened without outright showing it and that just makes it more fucked up.
The devs are commenting on lets plays but I don't see them commenting here yet so. They've been informing people that the game is based off messed up events they witnessed or heard about during their childhood that no one did anything about.
They did and they were 2 weeks earlier than your(this comment) tbh, it might just that you didn't see it but I saw their comment first then seeing this after.
I know they're kids, but I'm hung up on Filip not bringing Agatha's inhaler with him to school to give it back. I know it was too late and he would've been framed if he did, but still. Finding and keeping your friend's inhaler is an odd choice.
Omg this game just SPEAKS cultural code!! When I saw all these posters and portrait above the chalkboard, I cried out laughing, really Also, the beaver joke, it was so unexpected An amazing mix of funny easter eggs and heartbreaking story
What amuses me most is how many references there are in this game. For example, a poster with Billy or a photo with one Russian youtuber on the wall and another joke about a beaver. So much content
life. I'm a teacher, I have anxiety and depression. Sometimes is really hard to keep composure at work when other things in life are going wrong, and that teacher was old, this profession is one of the worse for mental health so I'm not surprised she had a meltdown.
The minute Johan started talking about "having fun" with a rat before killing it pretty much tells you right away he's a psychopath, so every red herring after that was pretty easy to ignore. Kind of annoying when a character is extremely dumb and naive when it's obvious what's going on, but the kid *is* a kid and doesn't know he's in a horror game. What did he do, though, just sleep while Johan was in his closet all night? Didn't check it? Closets don't lock from the inside, so it doesn't really make sense and I find it kind of dissatisfying that there's only one ending and it winds up with you dying like an idiot. I imagine the reason so many horror games give you multiple endings is so that you can get some kind of catharsis from beating the killer, even if the "better" ending isn't ideal.
I can easily explain it to you: Filip thought that Johan left and didn't know that he was in his closet, also let's be serious most children wouldn't realize what "having fun" mean in this context, also he couldn't expect that Agatha was killed because due the fact that her body missed he simply thought that she woke up and went to home.
Coming back from The Hole, it seems like Filip has the most peaceful homelife out of the trio? His mother isn’t around much but she still cares for him and is understandably busy with work being a single mother. Poor Agatha’s life is just a cycle of abuse and misery. I’m curious about Johan’s backstory now, as he’s just so unapologetically evil.
@@RobertMcBride-is-cool sir Robertmcbride I am most sorry for my minor grammatical error I would take time to learn proper grammar skills to make sure this event will not happen
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Yeah the sociopathic child murderer is scary but what disturbed me equally was the child abuse and neglect by all the adults
Yeah, unfortunate how real that is for so many kids. Literally no adult cares, even when there are clear signs of abuse.
this game made a mess in my head
This game was genuinely so relatable
average eastern europe moment, frankly. i felt the game was even somewhat realistic in that regard, though obviously to a comedic extent sometimes - it’s encouraged all too often by the educational system and the family structure here unfortunately
This type of behaviour from adults is common in Eastern Europe.] Some parts were exaggerated, like the teacher's part when Agatha died and mom sliding food under the door.
If Johan has 100 haters I’m one of them. If Johan has 10 haters I’m one of them. If Johan has 1 hater I am that hater. If Johan has no haters I am dead.
SAME
I thought this was gonna be a math problem for a sec.
me and my homies hate johan
johan killed you
@@AsdfAsdf-mi6ksright? If anyone has 100 of anything they are probably the person from the math problems in school
Jesus that phone call with Agatha’s Dad was so vile. I got a pit in my stomach just hearing it. That was some true blue humanity horror
I agree. I had to mute the video for a bit.
Horror for ones, routine for others. In game that was shown even as a demo version of what usually can be heard in such families.
It scared me..I got bad memories from it heh..
That part is so real. Happened to me all the time as a kid. Worst stuff
@@lizardqueen7283damn I’m sorry that happened I hope things are better now
Interestingly, when Filip and Johan discuss his rat shenanigans on the third day, the english subtitles say "Did you forgot to shower?" while what actually been said is "What, did you have your water supply cut off again?".
Another common occurance growing up in post-soviet Europe, lol.
@@enderkatze6129 forgetting to shower and having your water cut off are very different things.
@@enderkatze6129 I think that's more localisation than translation. Also if it was an intentional change I think that it diminishes the point by doing so. I think most players would be able to understand the concept of having the water cut off, regardless of what country they're from.
@@enderkatze6129 ?? It's a pretty universal concept and happens to more people and families in America than you may think. I think it makes more sense and has a greater impact if the subtitles were directly translated- I appreciate that the original commenter pointed that out ^^
@@Zeifos_Plus, I think it adds to the whole child abuse aspect, with Filip only having a single mom who has the work the night shift sometimes and can't afford the water bill
One of the most scary games for me just because of how real the story feels. Kids being cruel and adults doing nothing to properly teach them. Teachers being absolutely ignorant to children issues and punishing whoever they got first, not caring, who is really guilty. And yeah, sadly, families like this are a common thing, at least from the stories I hear.
Also, the way every character speaks here also feels natural
What do you mean by parents doing nothing? The Agatha father beat her I think every time she misbehaving, bc she had 0 wish to go home . And Jonathan said that if your parents beat you that means that they love you. I think his parents beat him too, and very often, and then apologize and say that they love him and doing it only for him? That's why he is thinking that doing cruel pranks and then just a single apology can make things better. Parent's do a lot in this game.
@@impkiller5932 They mean the parents aren't doing any actual good or being more involved in a healthy way in the kids lives.
It was unnerving how realistic it was, especially Johan starting out with animals as the disturbed usually do. And the whole thing feels like recalled memories of a broken childhood. The lighting especially.
That's why Paganism & the idea of Pagan Gods are better than the Christian God, to me. Everyone acts like the indifference of the Christian God punching you in life is because he's awful. If a Pagan God Punches you, it's because they've taken time out of their schedule, to specifically make you suffer in a way that is going to hurt you the most, because YOU are awful.
@@impkiller5932 Johan lives with only his mother now, his father was the one who killed a beaver and gave it to his son, likely also reflecting the same traits Johan had, the mother seemed to have run away from him but Johan loves his dad because he "loved him" (beat him) and killed animals to give to him. all theories but seens possible.
Do people not realize that the boombox that johan used earlier is what mimicked agatha voice which tricked filip? I see nobody bring that up so far but it feels like foreshadowing!
Nice attention to detail! I hadn't noticed
I thought Johan's taxidermy obsession was also going to be relevant again...
I wondered how he did that mimic thing…good eye
@@neofulcrum5013he most likely held her hostage and she cried out that she needed to pee, and he recorded it.
@@kateandrova:D
filip's daily intake of eating like 2 fruit loops for breakfast and dinner before chucking the full bowl on the floor is the real tragedy here
I feel bad for the teachers here too. They don't get paid enough already, and now they're dealing with generations after generations of immature and unreasonable kids that test their patience.
@@theotv5522 true but the teachers were also very dismissive, sure the kids may have done pranks on them but to straight up not believe a kid when they tell you their other friend is passed out and could die is so evil
@@iam878 Have you heard about the story of the boy that cried wolf? Considering the fact these are very nasty kids I would imagine they told lies like this regularly, to the point the teachers just got tired of it all. You can’t blame the teachers here when they’re the victim of such harassment.
@@theotv5522 so what? if a child is in danger you should ALWAYS believe them. in real life cases she would, or at least should be put in jail for this.
My mother is a teacher, you can't imagine how hard it is to give an extra lesson, and if another teacher suddenly leaves? It's a catastrophe, others have to quickly divide and take their lessons, sometimes a whole shift, not to mention how unfair the principal can be with teachers.
In villages, as in the video, it's much worse. Giving lessons, especially with kids like these, is *very* hard. I can understand why Klubnika was angry with Filip and Johan, I'd be on her side if I knew how these kids usually joke, but since she represents a careless adult, as all adults in this game do, yeah, she made a bad decision. Moreover, as far as I know, teachers don't have the right to give pupils detention
He tricked the protagonist by using the boombox in the end and using a recording of Agatha. Good detail.
That’s scarily brilliant Jesus
@@xXxXxXxAllianaxXxXxX I especially like how the ending credits are shown and in the background you can hear a recording from the boombox of the kids having fun and laughing. Such a harrowing little game.
Chekov's boombox
I speak Russian and Serbian, this language they speak is neither of them yet I understand almost everything. Found out it's some artificial language called 'interslavic" pretty cool.
ive been trying to figure out what language theyre speaking and i didnt know its an artificial language! thats super cool tbh
It's quite interesting. Does it work by combining similar words from different Slavic languages? I know languages of similar origin often have similar words.
There was some Italian in there too, really threw me off lol
7:54 Ah yes, the famous bad word of Countryball
Like the minions talk but easier to understand
An Eastern European retro setting with a psychopathic blonde kid named Johan? Yeah, if anime taught me anything is that this isn't going to end well.
Monster... 😬
Doctor Tenma's got your back
when reality is darker than fiction
Poor Tenma, he didn't deserve that :(
17:54 that face switch is both funny and disconcerting lol
Johan : it's funny right? :)
Filip : ...No.
Johan : >:(
It’s just a prank bro:
The prank: *commits murder*
Still a prank bro.
no one needs to know this prank ever happened
Scary part is that this really does happen in different ways till this day
Their called social experiments 😇
TBH you got people “robbing” random bystanders and then when they are about to be beaten to a pulp, they stay “it’s just a prank”
This kid was a sociopath in the making. It always starts with animals.
Also why is the main character’s mom sliding food under the door? Why isn’t Filip allowed to eat at the table?
i love eating tables
Can't eat the table bro (just saying)
The moment I heard that they were practicing on rats I had feeling they were messed up
obviously the mom is trying to make him have a mental break. that -3 to mood is a big deal.
@@Grubleafeater lmao, i got that reference
Never trust a guy named Johan, learnt my lesson with Monster
true
The most true words I've heard in a while.
HAH
Tbh I'd trust Liebert more than this lil brat
Yeahhh...having personal experience with a guy named Johan, never trust them.
Real
The most horrifying part is how believable it all feels. I've gotten the impression that too many of the Slavic people live in incredibly brutal environments and I feel all the different parts of this game lean into it. From the cruel pranks, to the dad, to the one teaching bemoaning that "you're just as heartless as the rest of the world," to the other teacher refusing to care anymore. There is a theme of an incredibly cruel environment that spares no one, that the ones who survive the monsters are the monsters.
I'm not Slavic, but grew up similar. No kidding. This shit felt like my childhood. Just the casuality of having shared abuse and the desensitation of it.
Truly game not about horror, but about live.
Shame on you to think that just because it's about Slavic people then the majority had such experiences. I thought cold wr period is over
@@windws7137 I think you should catch up on the current state of the world
No wonder, after Soviet Union collapsed the whole Eastern Europe has slipped into a terrible state, if you omit the horrid 90s. People were angry with the governments, a lot of citizens lost their jobs, crime rate went flying up, and people like Agatha's father didn't surprise anyone. People just had nothing to do without a job and a future.
Saying it was just a prank is a viable argument in court. I killed 140 people over the course of 5 years, represented myself and got declared innocent by saying that it was just a prank. True story, don’t look it up.
I looked it up. One hundred and forty *nine* you sneaky pranker!
@@FallenSanityWriteslmao bro was trying to clean his name
Your honor i was just being silly
OMG 😂😂😂
It's true I was the kitchen knife used in murder #69
I SWEAR after he ran back to the school and had to stay until it got dark it sounded like there were muffled noises coming from the trunk of that suspicious car that's been standing there the entire time.
That couple with the 'missing' posters really made me think someone else snatched up Johan and Agatha while he was gone.
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We know the game isn’t perfect, but we aimed to reflect the messed-up experiences we witnessed growing up, where a lot of unfair and weird things happened without consequences.
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It was a truly great piece of horror!!!
@@elijahcusrex7766 thanks a lot for such kind words!
Your game genuinely made me feel scared and brought back some memories. I really enjoyed it. Y'all did a good job!
Sad gaem ):
Y'all this rocks, you guys made a wonderful game and you should be proud. The environments remind me of my grandmother's house on the outskirts of Kyiv where I used to spend a lot of time (my family is all from Ukraine but my parents and 2/3 of my siblings now live in Australia), and the language reminds me of the linguistic slurry that happened when my sister and I tried to help my nephew with his math homework and I didn't know the appropriate math terms so we had to play translation telephone. It's wonderful, and i wish you luck in future projects!
I wonder if Johan was picking on Agatha on purpose, getting her in trouble at school bc he actually knew her dad would react badly- the murder was obviously unintended, but throughout the game its pretty clear that he's a psychopath. Also, her Dad obviously wasn't going to be helpful in any way even if she HAD mentioned the bullying (more than just asking the player to get her out of trouble, since the game purposely leaves it unknown if she ACTUALLY did anything or if Johan DID make something up).
The player's parent is also mostly absent, which shows that Johan was thinking ahead by getting a friend that couldn't easily go get a parent when the 'pranks' started going too far.
Oh gosh, Agathas screaming going from fear to anguish was horrifying
Well, that was depressing. Very effective and good at its goal too. Tragic, broken families, the escalation of "pranks", and teachers dropping the ball as hard as possible. That was great.
bober kurwa is a niche polish meme i’m so dead seeing manly’s confusion about it
Same
The google hole I just fell into trying to figure out the meme ☠️☠️☠️
@@bananaallergyeja "figure out the meme" and it's just some polish guy chasing a beaver 😭😭
That reference went hard
It became extremely popular in Bulgaria too. Love it :D
In my case it obviously didnt reach this point, but I was friends with the "oddly violent and volatile kid at school" and this game absolutely nailed the feeling of seemingly walking on a minefield at all times. The "who matters most to you, Agatha or me?" Question brought back A LOT of things. Great game with great atmosphere.
that sounds scary! can you please tell what other thingshappened to you back then?
Same brought up memories of middle school
people talking about how naming him Johan was the first mistake but nobody talking about what his barber did to him, how could you not be a lunatic with a cut like that 😭
"prank him, johan!"
Johan: "Will do XD"
*commits a literal murder*
Truly a Filip City moment
@@zakkymiftahurrahman1665 lol what???
@@SonGoku-ll5gf Caleb city reference
@@Seepkin oh okay now I get it
just say murder, why do you have to add literally to it?
I have no idea how to feel about the voice acting in this game. Agatha's screams were really good, but the teachers were... eesh.
I think maybe it's AI?
I don't know
I feel like the screams and laughs are just stock sound effects and the rest is ai, doesn't sound as robotic as most AI but the lack of much emotional fluctuation makes me think it must be
some of the voices are AI-generated since they couldnt find people to speak the language
That's the problem with using Ai voices
@@florytbMakes me wonder why they bothered to use interslavic in the first place, I guess as an „excuse” to use AI voice?
@@Jhud69no it’s because that’s the location of the story. But sure make shit up
I find it funny how people are making comments hating Johan, but no comments about how bad all the adults are in general and could have help prevent a lot of this.
Literally if the teacher had just believed Filip when he told her Agatha was injured, Johan could've been stopped before the murders. It might've been too late for poor Agatha though, as Filip says she wasn't breathing after she fell
@@deen7530 If the teacher had more then a single braincell, Agatha could have been saved from her dad.
then you need to scroll longer than just 2 seconds and actually look, cuz I’ve seen a few people talk about how all the adults in the game were awful, absuive or neglectful
It's very realistic how slavic adults was 20 years ago
Literally most of the comments have been about the adults
I love Manly’s commitment to playing all sorts of games no matter their popularity, nationality and even sometimes their accessibility.
The saddest thing is how Filip won't even ask for help from his mom and how clueless she is. He ran to a teacher for aid immediately and got punished for someone eles cruel pranks
Man, those teachers were pretty realistic, and so were the abusive parents. I've known people in Agatha's circumstances IRL, they're absolute cinnamon rolls. If the game gave me an option to sell out Johan to her dad, I'd have done it in a femtosecond, _because I've also known people like Johan._
same, I was disappointed that there wasn't any choices here. I would've felt so satisfied seeing manly sell Johan out.
Good luck blaming it on johan when her inhaler is still in the closet and her chopped off head is on your desk. Don't you think one psycho after you is enough
Fun easter egg for slavic/russian people.
The photo you first hit with a ball, that gave you an achievement, is a photo of popular russian youtuber - KuplinovPlay.
oh my goodness he is a real person 🐦
I hope he'll play that game too and sees that lol. Ded is the best
What a terrifyingly real depiction of a child in need of serious help before he hurts others. I wish this one was turned into a short horror film!
Sadly, in real life, people like this cannot be treated very efficiently. Some manage to learn to follow the social contract... but many don't.
@@MassiveDestructionSP Kids are still developing. That doesn't mean they'll necessarily be fine even if you take them out of abusive/neglectful situations, but they might still have empathy more or less like anybody else by the time they're in their 20s.
@Nassifeh eh, sociopathy, from what I understand, is baked in very very early on. Like, before 10 years old. It is widely considered one of the hardest to treat personality disorder (all of which are on their own difficult to treat).
@@MassiveDestructionSP Except in modern psychiatry, "sociopathy" doesn't exist. In the DSM-V, you can't even be diagnosed with antisocial personality disorder until you're 18. You will have started showing signs of ASPD early if it's present later... _in hindsight_. But you can't look at a neglected kid harming animals and say they're going to have ASPD later. It's not that we're all "baked in" by age 10, it's that anybody who was fine by late childhood is unlikely to develop this particular kind of issue later.
Not that it's super easy to treat any kind of childhood disordered behavior like this, but like, in the real world, there aren't just some kids who oops got broken and are now evil. It's all about the complexity of the surrounding family and systems.
@@MassiveDestructionSP Sociopathy isn't a real personality disorder. There's narcissistic personality disorder and antisocial personality disorder, but sociopathy and psychopathy exist only in fiction
As someone from Eastern Europe, I really appreciate the Slavic aesthetics in this game: carpets on the wall, the bear painting in the classroom (Morning in a Pine Forest by Shiskin and Savitsky), picture of Kuplinov (a popular streamer and gamer from Russia), socialist-realist posters with Billy Herrington, *BOBER* etc.
34:59 "the original story was written in the language of pain"
how dare you make me laugh like that after such a harrowing game lmao
but seriously, this was good. suspenseful pacing, unnerving visuals, cool mishmash of languages as 'interslavic'.. and the horrors of not only a young psychopath, but child abuse and neglect from every adult in the game.. this was real good.
The "sleep tight Billy" was incredibly necessary, thanks Manly
Moments like this is what make me love Manly
I don't understand that. Who is Billy?
@@Wynn_The_Gamer Billy Harrington, deceased gay porn actor and meme legend
@@condescendedwow4546 I see, I don't know much about meme so I didn't know that
AncientEgyptian, is that you? :mygod:
What scares me the most is how I knew early on that Johan was most likely some kind of threat. Animal abuse/torture without remorse in children is typically the first sign of a developing murderer. I liked how they used such a big detail right off the bat, because, just like real life, that sort of thing is easily overlooked and dismissed since they’re just kids.
I kept wondering why these characters seemed strangely familiar, and I realized it’s similar to Rule of Rose’s twisted story and way the orphans were brought up/treated each other. Crazy 😢
loved rule of rose
Wish that could be remastered
I expected a werewolf since this is literally said in the Harry Potter books.
Honestly liked the layers and the dark undertone this game had. It felt real in a sense and yet had a plot in the making that you knew would become dark. It servered foreshadowing future events and didnt let the story become boring
That title must be a huge compliment for the developers, seeing as Manly does nothing but horror games
"It's just a prank." The catchphrase of pranktubers around the world seconds before getting their asses kicked by total strangers they attempted to humiliate
I thought this was going to be just about child death, but as soon as Agatha begged Filip to tell her dad Johan made it up, I knew things were going to get EXTRA dark. The phone call and Johan talking about his obsession with playing with dead animals and torturing a still-living rat just confirmed that the title is pretty damn accurate.
Edit: why tf did 100 people like this comment? Thanks for liking despite me not noticing I typed "famn" instead of "damn," lmao
why do u thank for likes
@@paniiziima First day on the internet? Not uncommon.
Well, you mentioned the one thing everyone isn't talking about. Even manly was attributing Johans issues to his environment when in reality he would've always ended up that way good upbringing or not. Torturing animals is the biggest, brightest red flag. The moment he started talking about the eats, I knew he was evil.
@@Letycs With better guardians, he probably wouldn't have ended up torturing animals. There's a reason most serial killers don't come from good upbringings
@@paniiziima I mainly wanted to make a joke about how people still agreed with my comment despite a silly typo. Besides that, tons of people thank people for liking their comments.
I’m scared to go to the fridge tonight because johan might be there
shout as loudly as you can before opening it to assert dominance
lock the fridge shut with a lock or board to further assert dominance
is it because johan might be there or may be Agatha ?
“Bro why are you so mad”
The prank they hit me with:
This game had such a good build up of dread and the payoff was worth it. I felt uneasy almost the entire time! Thank you for posting Manly.
Same here!
Lmao
As a Polish person I need to mention 7:51 XD it’s a Polish meme with guy who seen beaver at night in a city and basically he say „Fuck! A beaver!” And chase him trying to pet it but it bites him. Stupid but funny
I think in the original video the beaver just runs to the water and "drowns itself", according to the guy filming it. After it became popular, other people began "discovering" beavers and other wild animals, including the guy who got bitten.
@@Lernos1 probably, there’s 2 videos from what I remember, around 2yo and 10yo ago
Got popular in 9gag for a while
Oh so this is a Polish language, i am Serbian and i could understand like 40-50% of it
@@LenPet-nu8zcIt's actually Interslavic, which is an artificial language comprised of multiple Slavic languages. I believe the deva chose to use it instead of a specific language to lend to the game's setting being recognisably post-Soviet Eastern Europe, but not any specific country.
From Wikipedia:
《Interslavic (Medžuslovjansky / Меджусловјанскы) is a pan-Slavic auxiliary language. Its purpose is to facilitate communication between speakers of various Slavic languages, as well as to allow people who do not speak a Slavic language to communicate with Slavic speakers by being mutually intelligible with most, if not all, Slavic languages.》
10:00 Interesting that it wasn't a "choice" moment.
I could see many games making it a decision you would make.
Probably to show how much poor decisions kids make in these situations, plus, i think he was too scared to think properly
@@Furina5OO What I mean is, I could see many games Expressly Sacrificing narrative considerations purely to give a Decision to players.
I'm not surprised there's a reason, I'm surprised that there being a reason is sufficient.
@@youtubeuniversity3638 Oh true
I wish they made it so that on the second playthrough you can change the ending by choosing differently and doing certain things
This game got way too real. Filip has no backbone and Johan's just the worst, unempathetic, manipulative, violent... Drove even the nicest adult in the game up the wall. Seriously up to a certain point she was the only caring one among all the adults. And what the hell's that younger teacher's deal?! Agatha said she was having an asthma attack and she was like "I'm so tired of this shit" and didn't even listen to Filip later on. Not a single ounce of care. These poor kids man, they deserved to have better adults around them, maybe things would have turned out much better then.
Those tiktok pranks be like:
(also the screams of terror from that poor girl being beaten by her dad.. i feel her pain..)
Fr honestly for me this is the most disturbing video manly ever uploaded haha
Her screams were disturbing when I first watched it, but also...... depressing.
Me too AND I GOT MORE UPSET WHEN THEY KILLED HER OFF THAT GIRL DIDN'T DESERVE TO DIE :(
@@Jessebonnie Yep
@@Jessebonnie If they were a alternative route where she managed to get revenge om us and also on the phone call sceme we can tell what actually happen for Agatha's protection.
The joker: that's not funny, that's not funny at all *dies*
9:25
Congrats manly, you have added "you little anime!" And "that little anime!" Into my vocabulary, thank you
Damn, you know a game is fucked up when Manly isn't sugarcoating it in the title
I knew Johan was a psychopath, but I wasn't expecting THAT at the end. I guess the framing thing was a red herring. Who would've guessed the kid that does taxidermy on beavers and rats, for fun, isn't right in the head?
hey now, there's nothing wrong with taxidermy, it's an art form with a lot of history and cultural significance.
it's the capture and torture of the animals before the taxidermy that are the problem.
@@ArmundJay Yea it was definitely the torture, playing with the corpses part that unsettled me
wait, what was in the box in the ending?
@@merolumi5119 The girl's head, probably.
I live in the Philippines, and things like this are common in the slums. Street children do terrible pranks, and bully each other, lots of crying and blood(when kids hit each other with blunt things) adults don't care and neglect the kids, and the teachers in public schools don't care either when fighting occurs because there's so much chaos within the public schools near slums where classes can take up to 70 students and just 1 teacher(overpopulation here is always from the slums).
Ms. Vishnevska was an angel. I hate it when rotten kids torture kind teachers like that.
I had one like that in high school. She was very sweet, very caring, understanding and forgiving. The students verbally harassed her: mocked her choice of vocation, called her fat and ugly, refused to answer her when she asked questions about the lessons. They also "pranked" her fairly often: stealing her supplies, hiding them in high places she couldn't reach, put things under or around her desk so she'd trip or knock things over.
She also quit, but it was quietly and sad. She was just gone one day.
I was always kind and honest with her. I thanked her as often as I remembered for being our teacher. As a 14 year old, I didn't know what else to do.
I knew to tell adults if I was being harassed, or if another student was being harassed. But in my undeveloped brain, I didn't know or think to tell someone if an adult was being bullied.
Kids can be cruel and vicious for no reason. Manly did point out that it often comes from broken backgrounds, but sometimes it seems like they just enjoy being mean. Like a power trip or something.
(I'm thinking of one guy in particular. I knew his family cuz I was good friends with his younger sister. They were really nice, generous with their love and affection. Even with him. When he was with them he was a completely different person. Polite, grateful, responsible. I don't know what his deal was.)
like i said, kids are cruel, jack
A brief reminder that there are not only kids out there Johan, but fully-grown *adults* like Johan.
And, surprisingly, many of them make a decent living off of their vile "pranks". And they don't even have the excuse that they're kids who, sadly, don't know any better.
I see Johan is a modern day youtube prankster in the making.
"Hey, today I'm going to prank my best friend by pretending to give him a box of strawberry cupcakes! Let's film his reaction when he starts opening that box and sees it ain't cupcakes...!"
I went into this expecting a villainous capybara for some reason but maybe the real villains were the friends we made along the way.
For once it really is the friends we made along the way
Him answering to phone in Japanese out of no where made me laugh so hard. He’s always so calm and collected and will seemingly say random and unexpected things that crack me up in every video.
10:30 oh my god... my jaw dropped the whole time.. I ever cried a little.. this is horrible.. those screams omg.. poor girl. 😢 This game is terrifying because this sort of thimg really happens to too many children. 😢 I'm honestly not sure I can keep watching this.
She was just getting whipped. Most kids could use that now a days honestly.
@@zerotodona1495 sure but to the point they fear you and scream and cry when you do that? something ain't right
@@zerotodona1495 yeah...sometimes, depending on the circumstances.
That though. NO. She wasn't "just getting whipped". That was a beatdown by an agray father who WILL hurt others if he thinks he's been slighted in anyway, accidental or not.
When it comes to whippings, there are limits. and that dad absolutely broke them.
@@zerotodona1495as someone who has studied child development and the affects of physical abuse, i sincerely hope you never have children
Its crazy how we go from hating the Dad for wanting to beat up Johan to rooting for the Dad to beat up Johan.
I've lived in a similar environment and people like this- except the child beheading child thing, of course. and it creeped me out how accurite the mannerism are; "it just means they love you", the teacher getting bullied by the students, the teacher punishing a student for doing nothing wrong, etc etc
After watching so many play throughs of Until Dawn, I can’t hear those words without thinking of Emily saying, “It was just a prank, Han!”
The scream on the phone reminded me of a real recording of an elderly woman ringing 911 to report a man outside.
Just as she does she gets attacked and the screaming truly makes your blood run cold. Luckily she did survive, it's easily available to listen to after all.
That’s the call from the woman known as “Ruth”
Most people say it was just a internet training call based on a real situation rather than a legit one
@@OlliePawsitivePetsit was real and from my knowledge she was rped.
@@zerotodona1495 no she wasn't lol
You can pick up from very early on how messed up each of the children's situations are:
Filip only has interactions with his mom which are limited to her calling through his door and only providing cereal for every meal. While his mom didn't particularly seem abusive or hateful by any standard, it's definitely an indicator of neglect.
Just from context clues, Filip's family might just be him and his mother (who is either just single, divorced, or widowed) who has to occasionally work overtime to make ends meet.
It's hard to tell if the cereal through the door is because she can't be bothered to cook, it's because that's all she can afford, or if that's all she feels her son deserves as we don't actually get much of a view into this situation. It could just be that the mother is tired from work and slips the cereal under the door because there's no point in coming to eat at the dinner table since she'd not be there or any number of reasons.
Regardless, Filip is in a position where he's neglected by his mother and not being fed like he should which is a recipe for children to act out in any kind of way they can for attention.
Agatha's family circumstances... There's no way to beat around the bush that the only interaction or indicator we have of parental interaction is her dad. She may be in a similar situation to Filip where her mom's situation isn't outwardly said, but it may or may not be a cause of her dad's likely drinking problem. Her dad is abusive towards her and will beat her when she does something that he deems to be wrong but clearly in a way that prevents people from actively seeing or noticing bruises on her (while we could chalk that up to neglectful adults, notice that none of the kids comment on bruises either despite knowing her being beaten). Agatha has asthma and needs inhalers which tend to cost a lot of money depending on the area you're living in which may unfortunately be a contributing factor in how he treats her as well, either viewing her as invalid or seeing the inhaler as something that takes away money from him.
She makes comments pleading with Filip to make Johan take the fall for any potential pranks she has done so her dad won't get mad at her. And when she is beaten, the next day she doesn't talk about the situation, as if she's trying to keep that in as her friends have shown they are not willing to help her. She only states that her father owns the TV which means she can't do the child-like thing which is watch cartoons and when "going home" with Filip, telling him that she doesn't want to go home.
Interestingly, Johan mentions before all of this that he's had unpleasant interactions with Agatha's father without going into too many details other than saying that he would likely just "yell at her". This shows that Johan might have been actually yelled at and beaten by her father so he knows how scary he is. Not to mention how despite being told by Filip that Johan had nothing to do with Agatha's actions, the father still showed up to Johan's house in a drunken stupor and threw a rock into his house, shattering the window.
Johan has a lot to unpack in his case, but the clear context on his parental situation (despite never seeing either parent once or having any dialogue from them) is that his parents are divorced and he lives with his mom while his dad lives in the city.
Johan's offhand comments make me worry about the situation he's living in with his mother considering one talk with both Agatha and Filip about wanting to move back to his dad in the city made the two of them want to go live with Johan there too.
Johan's comment regarding his father could mean that his father is genuinely a good parent and takes care of him and the other kids well or alternatively neglects Johan by not providing much meaningful reaction but still lets him do whatever he wants as a way to pacify or placate him into behaving.
His mother however is clearly the opposite. Johan makes comments every now and then that are very chilling and disturbing (aside from the animal abuse and killing) with the idea of "parents go easy on their children" and essentially telling Agatha that her father beats her because he loves her so it's technically for her own good. This really points to his mother treating Johan in the same way as Agatha though potentially to a lesser degree as she tells Johan that she's doing that for his own good and out of love and care for him (which is not true in the slightest).
It's actually stated that there's a contributing factor of childhood traumatic events that damage a child's psyche and could likely be a cause for a child to begin killing or become a serial killer (Note: clearly not all children under circumstances like this will become killers which is clearly shown with both Filip and Agatha's situations being very similar to Johan's, it's just unfortunate that Johan picked up these habits). Seeing Johan's comments regarding his dad in a positive light but never really mentioning his mom outside of her going after Agatha's dad for breaking one of their windows, it's not far off to say that she either didn't care or didn't even notice Johan starting to pick up unsavory habits like pranking and then moving up to killing/torturing animals.
Had he been in better circumstances with more parental guidance, a lot of these actions he committed could have potentially been prevented or at the least, he may have been able to seek help despite the current circumstances.
Overall, there's surprisingly a lot to unpack in this game despite the length. It's very complex despite the extremely dark nature, sometimes all too realistic, of the story which adds to the horror elements.
youknow the visual of this game is very much similar to an old traumatic memory, everythings a little empty, there are gaps between stuff you tune out in memories, the lighting blocks out details that youve come to forget over time like peoples expressions. It really helps add to the experience.
This is one of the perks of being an introvert. Can't be pranked if I don't have friends to prank me like this
Extrovert: *Its adoption time*
Who said it would be your friends pranking you like this?
w no friends
@@SandJosiephthe voices 💀
Answer me one question. Who's the best friend you can ever have? Yourself(most of the time)
12:19 “He’s not going to scare you, he’s going to kill you.”
We all wish.
I wasn't sure exactly how the story would end, but as soon as Johan nonchalantly brought up killing rats, that little voice in the back of my head spoke, "Oh... oh no. That can not be good." But it didn't quite click immediately because Filip didn't seem particularly fazed by it. Once the hide 'n seek went off the rails, that little voice chimed in again, "Uh huh, told ya."
The game is so terrifying the video title is almost entirely normal.
I kinda know Polish decently, and it's fun to read the subtitles and realise how tame the translation was compared to the original.
Could you explain a little bit what you mean by that? I'm curious about the kinds of things they characters say that gives you that impression.
@@drewgoin8849for the record, this isnt 100% polish language, someone in the comments said its an artificial language called ‚interslavic’. Just so you know. (Im a polish native.)
But to answer your question: for example when Johan is talking about their mother not taking the stuffed beaver, they straight up call her a bitch instead of ‚stupid mom’ as translation says.
I've got a Polish friend I met this year, and understood only the insults lmao. Literally the only thing I've learned!
This is not Polish, guys..
@@FalseNoizia Yeah, but you can kinda understand if you have any Slavic language knowledge. I know Russian and a bit of Ukranian so I can confirm the English dub is quite gentle
Why do I think johan planned all of this? From taking care of the second teacher who looks like who cares about her student's wellbeing to going into the forest then putting a nail in filip's seat he would be punished to stay at the school until late and then finally preparing and pulling of his final prank for filip. Johan would probably grow up be that serial killer with 20+ body counts in the future.
*Filip's mom keeps shoving fruit loops under the door daily even for dinner.*
Filip: Geez, mom! Can I maybe have some spaghettios now and then?!
this is what horror is supposed to be like
actually realistic
actual social commentary (in a way)
actually uncomfortable
actually scary
i love it
31:31 is the coolest and scariest thing i have ever seen done in a video game. More games should have something like this.
Fun fact: This a rare sequence of Second Person (as in First Person, or Third Person). In a game, second Person is when you control a character but see through the eyes of another person. Another example would be the first boss of Battletoads (NES), where you fight a giant robot throwing rocks at the camera.
The survival horror games Siren have a feature similar to this where you get the view of the monsters-
Jonah talking about having "fun" with the rat before finishing it off was an instant red flag right out the gate
"Kids are cruel, Jack."
This game gets way too real.
Humans are cruel
The words "It was just a prank, Han!" have been living rent-free in my head for almost ten years now, so the flashback is real.
Omg I’m glad I wasn’t the only one 😂
this game felt like a twisted fever dream
Just Another day in the Manly vers
"hello fellow child" sentence of the year
8:09 That wasn't a beaver, it was a capybara. Which is like the least dangerous creature in the world.
Wow, I was expecting the dad to be the main antagonist, but this was a twist I NEVER expected🥲
Yeah right? Like, how would be that little kid a treat to the life of anyone? The dad was a much more likely suspect.
@@Pabloto-dq3sx You havent listened to much true crime stuff have you.
@@conscript900 nope, not a tiny bit. But I would be Interested to hear a little about it.
Nah, I thought Agatha would be the ONE who gonna "prank" the bois for revenge, cuz it usually happens in these stories.
@@Pabloto-dq3sx theres a list of youngest ... "unalivers" (dang it youtube) on Wikipedia. There is a younger than 13 section, with ages under 5 included.
You may also find a few videos on the topic on youtube. Its unfortunately easy to find them...
0:45 Manly saying “Moshi Moshi” will always be funny
this game is the true slavic experience "surviving a harsh unforgiving place, human contact is limited and you are left isolated from outside world"
oh damn *that part* with Agatha, and then the cold way the kids try to just shrug it off the next day because they don't know how to deal with it... this was really good. A lot of indie horror games have zero restraint but the devs here did a great job of heavily implying what happened without outright showing it and that just makes it more fucked up.
The devs are commenting on lets plays but I don't see them commenting here yet so.
They've been informing people that the game is based off messed up events they witnessed or heard about during their childhood that no one did anything about.
They did and they were 2 weeks earlier than your(this comment) tbh, it might just that you didn't see it but I saw their comment first then seeing this after.
I know they're kids, but I'm hung up on Filip not bringing Agatha's inhaler with him to school to give it back. I know it was too late and he would've been framed if he did, but still. Finding and keeping your friend's inhaler is an odd choice.
I think he was hoping that Johan and her were pranking him. It never crossed his mind that she might've died
"it's just a prank, bro"
"No... a prank would be putting a whoopiee cushion on a chair... you literally became a SECOND HITL-"
And? What's the bad thing of becoming A literal War hero.
Monster reference..?
But if you say it's just a prank, it's fine. Just like saying no homo after you kiss your homie goodnight. 🧐
This game is gonna pop off
Omg this game just SPEAKS cultural code!!
When I saw all these posters and portrait above the chalkboard, I cried out laughing, really
Also, the beaver joke, it was so unexpected
An amazing mix of funny easter eggs and heartbreaking story
What amuses me most is how many references there are in this game. For example, a poster with Billy or a photo with one Russian youtuber on the wall and another joke about a beaver. So much content
Longest "What's in the box" meme I've seen since Se7en.
What’s in the bahhhhhhhxxx
It’s Agatha’s head! (I think)
Что в мешочке
The language is interslavic, artificially created slavic language merging together all slavic languages, love it!
This one was dark. Put a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach the whole time. Well done to the devs.
I had such a whipslash from the super serious title for the video.
Love the frequency in your uploads my man hardest working gamer out there rn
That first teacher was goin through some stuff
“As cruel as the rest of the world”
Wonder what happened to her
life. I'm a teacher, I have anxiety and depression. Sometimes is really hard to keep composure at work when other things in life are going wrong, and that teacher was old, this profession is one of the worse for mental health so I'm not surprised she had a meltdown.
@@tatiscolombia damn, hope yer farin well and continue to do so
@@tatiscolombia Hope you'll keep landing on your feet
The minute Johan started talking about "having fun" with a rat before killing it pretty much tells you right away he's a psychopath, so every red herring after that was pretty easy to ignore.
Kind of annoying when a character is extremely dumb and naive when it's obvious what's going on, but the kid *is* a kid and doesn't know he's in a horror game. What did he do, though, just sleep while Johan was in his closet all night? Didn't check it? Closets don't lock from the inside, so it doesn't really make sense and I find it kind of dissatisfying that there's only one ending and it winds up with you dying like an idiot.
I imagine the reason so many horror games give you multiple endings is so that you can get some kind of catharsis from beating the killer, even if the "better" ending isn't ideal.
I can easily explain it to you: Filip thought that Johan left and didn't know that he was in his closet, also let's be serious most children wouldn't realize what "having fun" mean in this context, also he couldn't expect that Agatha was killed because due the fact that her body missed he simply thought that she woke up and went to home.
Coming back from The Hole, it seems like Filip has the most peaceful homelife out of the trio? His mother isn’t around much but she still cares for him and is understandably busy with work being a single mother.
Poor Agatha’s life is just a cycle of abuse and misery.
I’m curious about Johan’s backstory now, as he’s just so unapologetically evil.
Manly your one of my favorite creators on the platform
*you’re. I had to get that out of my system after ignoring a lot of other comments with similar grammatical errors.
@RobertMcBride-is-cool your fun at parties I bet
@@RobertMcBride-is-coolThat's okay dude! At least your nice about it 💐🤟
@@RobertMcBride-is-cool sir Robertmcbride I am most sorry for my minor grammatical error I would take time to learn proper grammar skills to make sure this event will not happen