Can You Make Money Being In The Leather Craft?

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  • Опубліковано 22 лют 2020
  • Just My Thoughts On The Business Side Of The Leather Craft Business

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  • @davidswitzer2287
    @davidswitzer2287 4 роки тому +22

    Enjoyed your video. I’ve been making a great living in the leather business for over 40+ years. The learning curve takes time but the rewards are wonderful.

    • @MovetoSonomaCounty
      @MovetoSonomaCounty Рік тому

      Would you be willing to connect on instagram? I have some questions as I’d like to produce a leather product. Could use advice 😊

  • @FUBAR956
    @FUBAR956 3 роки тому +19

    You don’t calculate the cost of leather by measuring the actual piece. You have to think in squares/rectangles. Lay the pieces of your pattern and measure the area of that piece out, or layout the entire pattern and measure the area it takes up. Then you markup your cost per square foot, and apply that number to the total area you used to cut out your pieces. The scrap left over after you cut out the pieces is waste and goes into the total cost. If you’re only marking up the area of the actual piece you use, you’re cheating yourself out on pieces of leather that you cant use, unless it’s big enough to make something like a key fob or something similar. That scrap you’re not including in your total cost comes out of your pocket and is a loss in your profits. My father was an upholsterer, and so is my brother, and I know many other people in the upholstery field. They all do the same thing.
    Then you need to calculate the cost and markup for any hardware and other consumables like thread and include that. You don’t have to itemize these but you include a general number to cover this expense. If not, you’re giving them away. Then take into account any repeating expenses and overhead you have. What is that cost per month? Divide that into how may pieces you plan to make/sell in that month and include that. And then labor. That depends on how much you value your time. All fields do this. Mechanics factor in cost of parts, maintenance on tools and machinery, overhead, labor. That is why people charge $800-$1000 for a handmade bag or whatever. They’ve factored in all their costs and expenses. I do photography on the side and when I get a paying customer I have to factor in cost for my lights, camera, ( I need to make that money back or have money for repairs or replacements), cost to have prints made, use of my home studio unless I’m shooting on location, and then my time.

    • @OneLonelyPlumber
      @OneLonelyPlumber  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks for sharing 😀

    • @hippycobbler4092
      @hippycobbler4092 6 місяців тому

      That's literally how we estimate costing in footwear. Thanks that saves me righting the novel. :)

  • @airnashville3883
    @airnashville3883 4 роки тому +14

    I wish we lived closer together, there is much we have in common and I would enjoy the company and conversation about our shared passion. I’ve thought of the same issues with making a profit with leatherwork. I made a decision a while back that for me it’s going to stay a passionate hobby and that my real goal is to make enough for the hobby to pay for itself. I have local friends that do have a profitable and very successful leather business but, they make more or less just 2 things; flatwork motorcycle accessories and gun holsters. They’ve introduced as much automation as they could and they have eliminated as much handwork as possible. They use clicker dies to cut everything. They use sewing machines exclusively.
    I did the same math recently and at best, my profit turn is around $30/hr. I’m a retired doctor and if I consulted on the side I could make $250/hr. I do leatherwork because I love it and I figure that’s your case too. Best of luck

    • @OneLonelyPlumber
      @OneLonelyPlumber  4 роки тому +6

      That would be awesome. It’s a very lonely craft. It would be nice to have a local buddy to bounce ideas and collaborate with.
      Same here, I don’t plan on making it into a full time business. I’m doing this great hobby to feel closer to my granddaughter and I feel truly blessed to get the chance to do so.
      I think making more streamlined would take the fun out of it.
      Thanks for watching my friend

    • @Spectt84
      @Spectt84 3 роки тому +1

      I'm guessing, you would need to charge $400+ per bag to pay for materials and make a profit for your time... The hard part is finding the people willing to pay that. There are definitely some luxury designers that charge multiple times that amount very successfully. I gotta say, 5 bags in 2 days doesn't seem too bad. You made good time in my opinion. I don't think I could do that (I also don't own any machines, but still not sure I could do that).
      I agree with you. It is extremely difficult to build items in your home shop and make enough profit to support a family.

    • @OneLonelyPlumber
      @OneLonelyPlumber  3 роки тому +4

      Thanks for sharing. I figured it out the cost of another bag I made the other day. I made a $1.50 an hour lol. It’s only a hobby and I love making things with leather. I couldn’t be more thrilled knowing someone has my product and uses it everyday. 😁

    • @GEIGER_YT
      @GEIGER_YT 3 роки тому +2

      @@OneLonelyPlumber Handmade in America. Your price should be close to $1k per bag. You aren’t china or a major fashion house. You cant use slave labor and buy materials by the metric ton. Change what you need and put them in front of people with the money and appreciation for handmade craftsmanship and quality materials.

  • @kingston7613
    @kingston7613 3 роки тому +9

    Hey buddy, I hope this helps. You as a skilled craftsman, should never charge less than $50.00 per hour. & You as the company owner should equate your charge by the day, not the hour. So here's some easy math, $550.00 per day × 2 days = $1,100.00 ÷ 5 bags = $220.00 per bag + the cost of the supplies that you used. If they sell fast? Raise the price. If they don't? You'll have to lower it.

    • @OneLonelyPlumber
      @OneLonelyPlumber  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks for the info. Much appreciated

    • @salsalvatierra
      @salsalvatierra 3 роки тому

      @@OneLonelyPlumber Those are some nice looking bags. It is handcrafted, and I think this is sound advice. You will also make smalls, which can bring additional income.

    • @pimpinondemhos101
      @pimpinondemhos101 3 роки тому

      Do you do this for a living?

  • @jack8162
    @jack8162 9 місяців тому +1

    It took you 4.4 hours per bag, so if it cost you, say, 60 dollars in materials and you wanted to make 25 an hour(pretty low for a leatherworker but livable), a random formula of doubling material cost plus 10% would give you 132 dollars plus your 110 for labor so you would sell that bag for 242 dollars if you wanted to live off of that(round up to 250), which is actually a low cost for a quality leather bag that will last years. You have to sell the value, not the product. If someone wants to buy something, they have to see the value in it to even consider it. So you would sell them a bag that lasts 15 years for 250, or they could spend 50 every 2 years on a bag from the store that needs replaced more often and doesn't look as nice and they will end up spending 375 for worse products that get thrown away over the same amount of time. Spending more on quality things that save money in the long run is why people buy leather goods. The people who scoff at the price don't understand the concept of quality and buy cheap everything their whole lives.

  • @puddinsocksplayscallofduty508
    @puddinsocksplayscallofduty508 Рік тому +1

    As a leather guy of 17 years I can tell you you are not wrong for thinking the way you do. Nowadays people don’t appreciate handmade leather. To them why buy a bag from us for $300 when they can spend it on a designer bag. Most of the people that do make it are popular UA-camrs and influencers. I no longer do it for a business, just a hobby.

  • @DreadSpawn1
    @DreadSpawn1 2 роки тому

    Really enjoyed your video. Looking forward to checking out your others and see if you've answered any of your questions because I've had the some of the same thoughts and I'm still confused lol. Have a good 1.

  • @TheTryHardDad
    @TheTryHardDad 3 роки тому +1

    I would love to see a follow up video up on this since you’ve had some time with leathercrafting

  • @ngriffin100
    @ngriffin100 5 місяців тому

    Man i appreciate your honesty and for what its worth your bags were good

  • @danpost4755
    @danpost4755 Рік тому

    I appreciate you sharing your thoughts. Pricing is always difficult. No matter what craft.

  • @randallcrenshaw3871
    @randallcrenshaw3871 11 місяців тому +1

    What’s the total cost of supplies to build a purse and white is your asking price? That way we can calculate your hourly rate I would like to know thank you.

  • @lain5900
    @lain5900 4 роки тому

    I agree with you n your thoughts...it does depend on your target market, who is buying your bag? You could charge for materials cost but then you lean out your assembling process to spend less time, which for the most part seems like you have. A sewing machine saves a ton of time from handstitching. Stamp cutters also save lots of time from cutting by hand provided you know your pattern works. Do you want to sell quantity or do you want to sell quality? Just some more things to consider.

  • @jamespurgason9186
    @jamespurgason9186 3 роки тому +1

    I've had hobbies that I spent alot of money to get started and made no profit off of it. So if you can make somewhat of a profit or pay for tools.... that is a win!

  • @nancymendez7636
    @nancymendez7636 3 роки тому +8

    You look like Bruce Willis 😃

    • @OneLonelyPlumber
      @OneLonelyPlumber  3 роки тому +1

      Haha I’ve been told but I don’t see it lol
      Cheers

    • @jesmondo5785
      @jesmondo5785 3 роки тому +1

      A chef I used too work with thought his name was "Bruce Williamson". Don't know why but it cracked up!

    • @OneLonelyPlumber
      @OneLonelyPlumber  3 роки тому +1

      Haha that’s funny 😄

    • @jesmondo5785
      @jesmondo5785 3 роки тому +1

      @@OneLonelyPlumber just stumbled across your channel! Like it a lot, cheers for taking the time to post!

    • @OneLonelyPlumber
      @OneLonelyPlumber  3 роки тому

      Thanks I appreciate that.
      Cheers

  • @jgosen6052
    @jgosen6052 3 роки тому +2

    Add $50.00 USD above what you get at Walmart, and you're good. Trust me... Just do it, and advertise all natural materials and handmade craftmanship.. You're not missin' anything!

  • @Megalith_
    @Megalith_ 3 роки тому +2

    I admit I haven't started selling anything yet but I've been thinking about doing this at a side gig to see how it goes. But I think if you're trying to make a living your hourly cost would be how much you wanna make per year divided by how many hours you wanna work per week. Then charge whatever that hourly rate comes out to. At least that's how I would do it.

  • @earlboykin2024
    @earlboykin2024 3 роки тому +1

    Nice job.

  • @abdokattan6136
    @abdokattan6136 4 роки тому +5

    You make several good points and I totally agree. I think when you start out, you won’t be able to charge enough money for your work. Most businesses don’t start making money (often operate at a loss) until the second or third year. You need to think about the long term and build your brand. Once you have enough of a following on social media, a website with positive customer reviews and a great line of products, you can make leathercraft into a viable business and charge what you want.
    Ryan from little king goods made a video on how to make leathercraft into a full time career (he was very successful at building his brand and has tons of orders...people are willing to pay $65-250USD for his wallets and up to 900USD for bags).

    • @OneLonelyPlumber
      @OneLonelyPlumber  4 роки тому +1

      I totally agree. Even though I’m doing this for a whole different reason. It’s a very rewarding craft and I’m very grateful to even get the chance to do this. It’s definitely an interesting craft. Thanks for watching my friend.

  • @la7418
    @la7418 Рік тому

    Now spare a thought for the people who make our shoes in bulk that end up in Kmart and target! We all need a lesson on how hard it is to make these items ourselves. Thx for sharing

  • @pamcomorski1734
    @pamcomorski1734 Рік тому

    Since I got my whippet pup every one keeps asking can I make dog collars? I'm a furniture upholster I do leather car seats. So is it worth my while to look into it?

  • @peterkober6758
    @peterkober6758 4 роки тому +1

    Gary thanks I think automation is how but the product looses it's value so saying that the consumer must see value
    God Bless
    PaK

  • @billyjoebellis7080
    @billyjoebellis7080 3 роки тому +3

    I do it for a living and I make good money at it

    • @OneLonelyPlumber
      @OneLonelyPlumber  3 роки тому +1

      That’s awesome to hear plus you get to do what you love. Win win

  • @jenkins1979
    @jenkins1979 3 роки тому +2

    Wage per hour + material cost =sub total ....then double. That's your total price.If you want just double material cost.plus wage per hour....you get faster with practice

  • @thomasbeckett1245
    @thomasbeckett1245 3 роки тому +1

    As a artist just take your global costs for the year... and times nine... then charge accordingly for each of the 365 pieces ...add tax and incidentals too including big costs like your home , gas, and so on...

  • @thomasbeckett1245
    @thomasbeckett1245 3 роки тому +1

    I started into the leather craft with COVID... to stay sane ... it’s easy to spend a couple hundred dollars on that... so I think a weeks time plus a few hundred is worth ?.... who knows... such a bad idea 💡 to think a craft a business... crafters just need to make a nine times more plus other unmeasurable costs... gas , tax, house, stall, etc... such a bad idea... your a artist...

  • @pimpinondemhos101
    @pimpinondemhos101 3 роки тому +1

    Hey man, you said your a business owner outside of this. Can I ask what your main business is?

  • @ericgauthier8695
    @ericgauthier8695 3 роки тому +1

    Oh and by the way ... awesome candid video ... there is a BOAT LOAD OF FLUFF and HYPE that you can make $100000’s of dollars doing leather work ... it’s all horse patties .

  • @ericgauthier8695
    @ericgauthier8695 3 роки тому +4

    Been hittin the hides for over 8 years . I am here to tell you this . UNLESS you MOVE MASSIVE AMOUNTS of said leather items and have a LARGE OPERATION , you will make enough money to support a family . I know because I TRIED FOR 3 years to no avail . If you are NOT PRODUCING HEALTHY PROFIT , then YOU HAVE A HOBBY - not a business . At the age of today 2020 ... LESS THAN 18 percent of clients know that they are buying quality . The rest want Walmart prices . That’s just the fact and it sucks . It sucks real bad

  • @MovetoSonomaCounty
    @MovetoSonomaCounty Рік тому

    What if you get product manufactured with your design rather than hand made

  • @timtrax918artisan8
    @timtrax918artisan8 5 місяців тому

    100$ per hour plus materials

  • @mattst4444
    @mattst4444 2 роки тому +3

    I’ve been doing leatherwork for 3 years and am having a hard time with this as well. Mostly people not wanting to pay for something they can buy for less than half of what I have to charge. I understand where they are coming from completely and have almost decided that it is just going to have be a hobby for me. I’d love to do this for a job but don’t see how I will make the return and profit overall enough to support a living. I know people do it but I think it’s getting tougher. Hopefully things get better or we figure something out that we’re missing

    • @OneLonelyPlumber
      @OneLonelyPlumber  2 роки тому +1

      Hey I appreciate your thoughts. It’s definitely a hard thing to figure out. I also realize that most people aren’t willing to wait. They want it now. Almost like impulse buying. It’s tough for sure but if you love doing it. I guess that’s all that matters. Success comes in many forms. Thanks for sharing. I know I’m not crazy. 😁

    • @HarryAcorns
      @HarryAcorns 2 роки тому

      We have to try and change the culture. Buying American hand made a a greater price. I'm definitely ok with that. I'd buy a wallet from say my neighbor at 3 times the cost of one at Walmart. I don't want a Walmart wallet. Or belt etc. It also makes you appreciate things more. And having less junk. Maybe I'm crazy but I don't want alot of cheap stuff made overseas. I'd rather have fewer, more expensive quality things. So how do we get people to think that way as well? I guess start with your kids. I personally hate looking in someone's garage or basement and see it cluttered with what I call crap. It's like some internal need to have crap. I want high quality made in America things. Or something made overseas that another country specializes in. That's fine. And if at the moment I can't afford what I want, guess what. I wait and save. Not say I'm going to harbor freight for ex. And get it today. Or work some overtime. Idk. I wish we were like this as a culture. I'm not anti capitalism or anything, but I don't personally like some aspects of it as far as cheaper products and lower wage jobs.

    • @terrypen
      @terrypen Рік тому

      I'm a beginning leather worker too. The couple pieces, card holder style wallets, that I have sold I told them that there is a Limited Lifetime warranty on materials and craftsmanship. If it's my fault, or crappy product that I purchased to make it, then they deserve to have it remade. If it was a large $ item I'd get their approval through the process or show them exactly what the finished product will look like with one of your displays. Just my newbie opinion! I'd like to hear what the 'semi-pro' and/or professionals do in this aspect.

  • @scotthopkins1746
    @scotthopkins1746 2 роки тому

    If you were selling a lot of those bags, a clicker press, automatic skyver and and automatic strap cutter would really speed up your production time. Unfortunately, there is just no way to make enough products to support yourself if you are doing everything by hand.

    • @OneLonelyPlumber
      @OneLonelyPlumber  2 роки тому

      Hey Scott, thanks for sharing. Every tip or trick is super helpful and not just for me but whoever reads the comments. Thanks for watching😀

  • @michaelrodriguez6210
    @michaelrodriguez6210 3 роки тому +1

    Who's got tips for speeding up the process? It makes me roughly 5-7 hours to make a wallet. I do everything by hand including stitching and skiving. At that rate I would have to sell my wallets for roughly $400, and I just don't think my work is there yet.

    • @OneLonelyPlumber
      @OneLonelyPlumber  3 роки тому +1

      For me it’s a just a hobby but I’ve been told it can be done but just takes time to find your branding. Branding branding is the key I’ve heard.

  • @scottmclean4237
    @scottmclean4237 Рік тому

    If your self employed plumber could you not work out what you charge for the same hours as plumbing ?

  • @cedicol
    @cedicol 2 роки тому

    I really think it's doable. Lots of people explained it already. But you have to be bald en not be scared to ask the right price and stick to it. A wallet from Walmart is going to last A couple of years at the best. They are junk compared to the real deal that will last A lifetime. And there are people willing to pay for things that outlast there life. Branding is key. Social media is key. Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, UA-cam,...you name it. You really have to be on there to do that branding. Every day. Even A photo of you working is good enough. And making good photos of your products in a nice setting. I don't know how much you charge for those bags. But I'm guessing it's to low.

  • @tinacamara4900
    @tinacamara4900 Рік тому +1

    Why

  • @billyjoebellis7080
    @billyjoebellis7080 3 роки тому

    And I so it all by hand

  • @tomjeffery6708
    @tomjeffery6708 2 роки тому

    The COrpoRations Maaaaaaannnn.... But seriously. the corporations. :(

  • @michaelritter6004
    @michaelritter6004 2 роки тому

    I’m sure some people can & some people don’t .

  • @imontheway3377
    @imontheway3377 3 роки тому

    Sir your country

  • @imontheway3377
    @imontheway3377 3 роки тому

    Hi Sir

  • @LiveFreeorDieNH
    @LiveFreeorDieNH 4 роки тому +3

    Can’t beat MADE IN AMERICA buddy 🇺🇸

  • @ulanbekovbunyamin5315
    @ulanbekovbunyamin5315 3 роки тому

    Hello Sir you have Instagram?

  • @richarddukes8173
    @richarddukes8173 2 роки тому

    Oh my God get to the point. How much did it cost for the leather, the hardware, and the consumables. Then add what you want for labor and that’s what the bag cost for Gods sake. There’s 13 minutes of my life I’ll never get back!!!

  • @tonyobyrne1846
    @tonyobyrne1846 9 місяців тому

    Thank you for sharing your thoughts! I'm still playing & just getting to know leather, the tools, what goes into making the final product, etc. It is a VERY time consuming activity! And not cheap!
    One thing which I did not hear you give much thought, is your market or target customer. Its a given that a LOT of people will not be able to afford anything big & hand made. So perhaps, aim at a more niche market.
    Those bags you showed are beautiful and worth a significant amount to someone. A huge amount of defining a business is finding the clients who can and are willing to pay for your creations...
    All the best!

  • @brianwatson9324
    @brianwatson9324 Рік тому +5

    Why did you make the video if you don't know if you can make money at leather craft? Everyone that clicks on this video was expecting to hear an answer!

    • @woofbark4475
      @woofbark4475 2 місяці тому

      I think what he is trying to say is that it just depends.