Fujifilm f/w 5 03 is 'OK'...
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
- A quick video to hopefully demonstrate that at least 5.03 (on the XH2S) seems largely void of all the quirks and bugs that have seen the news from 6.00 (XH2S), 4.00 (XH2) and 3.01 (XT5). Is the AF still
infallible? No. But it is a darn sight better (than 6.00) and definitely workable...
Forgot to say, most my walking/running tests with my kids come out at about 70% acceptable hit rate (or what I would call acceptable). There are some lenses that fail miserably in this task, such as the XF56/1.2RWR (DC motor is garbage), Sigma 18-35/Sigma 50-100/1.8 Art series. LM or a good stepping motor lens tends to do ok;
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Eddy , Glad u posted this , You ve been on my side from the beggining 😅 Great video, shows a better behaviour, but still I am not pleased with the pulsing at 9:34 when your boy stops. Its clearly the “algorithm” is f* up, maybe they will fix it but for the steps between transition I think they can’t.
I was so hyped up for the “touch track” and updated it in a second😂
@@edvard2942 Yeh that was a big hook! Still think the red box was too much for the camera... hehe
@@SummersSnaps yes😂
I think when the boy stopped it was also on the cusp of hitting MFD (but yes I know what you mean).
Really, this was not a video to say the AF is good, more of a case of 'look... it's not that bad at 5.03, they REALLY screwed it on 6.00'.
I agree with so many of your points in your videos, I feel like the mount itself could be an issue for genuinely improving AF. If you look at the Canon RF mount vs EF contact points, there are 12 points vs 8, 4 of those additional contact points for RF glass are apparently purely AF based, hence why those adapting EF glass to RF cameras (via an adapter) suffer worse AF performance than those using dedicated RF glass. RF glass can simply take full advantage of the cameras AF system due to having all the contact points.
Fuji need to revamp all their lenses again with a new mount and more contact points, do whatever is necessary to catch their AF up, otherwise I think it will be a case of same 'ol same and they will get left behind to their own detriment.
People come to Fuji for the sims, but they leave due to their AF. They have very poor retention and that can harm long term.
@@SummersSnaps this was a great observation, i can't agree more..
Yep, that it the most concerning part, Fujifilm is acting like there are no issues what so ever, that is very scary...
Agreed. This is what's annoying me most. If they'd just say "err.. we're having some technical difficulties, apologies, but please bare with us while we figure it out. We're aware and we're working on it" I'd still be annoyed but at least thered be some communication and I'd know it's being adressed
Great video, Eddy! Good to see what things are like on the other side of the fence.
There's been some pretty big problems at camp Fuji within the last 6 weeks or so for sure. It's a little sad to think 5.03 might be as far as I can take these cameras :S
The more concerning issue is Fuji allowing this problem to grow and gain as much traction as it has. They are a few days away from being a petapixel story, publicity I am sure they don't really need...
@@SummersSnaps yeah I'm a bit baffled by how they're letting this snowball into something bigger.
Great job man! I wish more Fuji users would come up and start pressuring Fuji for better AF, it's insane how every other major manufacturer has advanced AF but Fuji is still behind.
Also, I would love to see how the Sigma 50-100m f1.8 performs in real life. I have it for my X-T5 but use it with a manual adapter, still saving up for the AF adapter.
That 50-100 review is forthcoming. My next video will be to discuss the 56RWR vs the 90/2, so stay tuned for that, but it could be the Sigma annihilates them both 😂
AF wise... I dunno.. I'm of a similar mind to Edvard, there is probably a hardware limit here, likely on the mount. For those staying with Fuji hoping for Canikony level AF I think that is wishful. It's probably healthier to just accept it for the level its at and be f/w cautious.
@@SummersSnaps Looking forward to that review, when it comes! You might have a point about the AF performance.
I love my Fujis since I am a hobbyist, but as a pro I would totally go Canon or Nikon (love Canon bodies and Nikon glass so hard choices haha).
Hi there Eddy 😀 Thx for taking the effort in putting that video. Very informative! I wish that Fujifilm HQ watch this, Edvards, or Imtounge videos about poor Fujifilm face/eye tracking in AF-C..
Yeh, they really bust it bad :(
BTW, Eddy.. I wrote extensive review of Viltrox 13/1.4 with direct comparison to XF 16/1.4 including many sample images and .raf files available to download and play with. It's on Dpreview in Fujifilm section. I'm sure You will find it interesting, and it should help You decide what UWA lens to get into Your camera bag 👍
@@fotokozlowski Oh! Cool, will read. I actually found a steal of a deal on the XF14/2.8, I'm in love with it!
I’ve having some issues with Fujifilm X-T5 autofocus since installing 5.03. Mostly a false green box where the image is clearly out of focus and yet I have a green confirmation box.
Yes, there are reports of a lot of false positives with these recent updates. Hang in there, hopefully a patch comes soon.
The call center in the US is getting beat up over this. I'm having a problem with my 16-55 pulsing in high contrast scenes after upgrading to f/w 1.32. I had called to ask how to submit a bug report and if you could rollback the f/W. Guy on the phone sounded pissed and was a little curt. I've been watching the f/w videos, so I guess they are taking some heat on the phones.
IIRC there was an issue specifically with 16-55, I think there was a specific f/w (maybe for the lens itself) to fix that one. Give a google and see what you can find. Sorry to hear this :(
This makes me sad. I was just watching Edvard’s video on this before finding yours. I have the X-T3 and when they improved the AF-C, it really improved! But this is discouraging as an owner of the X-T5.
Yeh it is sad, make sure you hold back updating f/w for it for awhile is my advice.
@@SummersSnaps thank you! Will do.
I feel like this video won't get as many views as the ones saying it sucks . I hope it does though. The negative narrative seems easier to follow than the positive ones. The points seem to only be valid when they are negative or better yet more valid when they are negative.
Yeh maybes, I'm no YTer, I release like a video very sporadically (probably doesn't help).
@@SummersSnaps yeah I understand that yet, I've seen where the negative channels can grow really fast over positive ones . Regardless of posting. I too post pretty sporadically but, I'm not even speaking of my channel. Just sad how the negative can get praised over the positive. If you are positive you are a shill these days. I've also criticized the Fuji cameras on my channel for having AF issues but, I didn't stick to that topic only. I've shown you can work with the AF . I watched a video of a big Sony user and his camera lost focus, did it really matter ? Not really and I bet no one mentions it . I do think the AF needs to be fixed but again I know how to work with it. Been using fuji for 3 years many videos on my channel using the X-S10 with no issues and some I did. Those videos still did ok.
@@SummersSnaps my bad I'm very long winded . Trust me , I'm not a shill lol . I also shoot Sony, DJI, go pro and would love a Canon and Panasonic camera.
I spoke to reps here in Romania and they won't rollback as they say it can not be done...
Yeh I believe that is untrue. What they mean is they can't do it locally. It might have to be sent to them and then they send it to Japan. You could be without the camera awhile in that instance. But I have heard it can be done, it just sounds like Fuji Romania can't do it.
Look, I work for a couple of camera brands out here and there is a lot of disconnect from the various offices in the west and to main hub in the East. Try going over Romania's head, try and speak to Fuji direct.
Or wait... give it a few weeks more, hopefully a patch soon 🤞
@@SummersSnaps I'll wait for the moment as I got not gigs atm and was lucky a video gig fell through right after upgrading to 6.0, boy was I naive...
@@Tech_Stuff_and_Other_Stuff :(
There s a guy who did it on r/fujifilmx on the xt5
Great video. AF is definitely not better but , saying it's always been as bad as it is on FW 6 is a false statement. I've had the X-H2s since release and I think it was firmware 3.10 that I was like wow I need another camera with AF this good and I sold my X-T4 and my X-S10. I got an X-S20 and that has been my work horse for a while just because of it's compact size. The AF has been nice on it. Especially since I updated my X-H2s. I wish I would have waited but, I had a video that I was literally asking for touch to track. I'm ok with dealing with the "growing pains" because I know the X-H2s is capable of better AF. Also, it's not my only camera. I get the frustration but, like I said on the fuji rumors post I know tech firmware is a lot more complicated than people think. There's a lot that goes into it.
Fingers crossed the issue is really highlighted, the next week or so will be interesting.
@@SummersSnaps yeah I really hope they fix it soon
Fujifilm is so committed to retro cameras and self-referential film simulations that it even prefers to create them exclusively for manual mode, doesn't it? 😅
Lol
fuji has lost their way. I've been a fuji user since the xt-1 and they have been leapfrogged by every other camera manufacturer in autofocus. I was going to upgrade to the HS-2 but now I'm looking to switching systems altogether. They have fallen further and further from the rest of them.
That's fair. I do believe that the next level of AF improvement will likely need to be hardware and mount based. In the same way the Canon RF mount has 4 additional contact points (all of which are centered around AF improvement), it is this kind of thing that will likely be necessary for Fuji to take their AF to the next level, otherwise I think we'll see a same ol' same AF performance for years to come. Of course such a hardware based change will cost Fuji dearly, they will need to revamp and upgrade their lenses to having this new tech, so yeh... if AF is super critical for your work then Fuji is not looking like a good choice in the interim.
My advice is to stop using continuous auto focus and eye/ face recognition! I use single focus and achieve 90% plus auto focus accuracy.
That's a pretty strange comment to post here under this particular topic matter. Are you sure your comment is in the right thread/video? This is not a video about AF.C vs AF.S pros and cons (which they both have). You can't do focus pulls in AF.S etc.
@@SummersSnaps
Perhaps I should’ve stated that I don’t do video!
@@simon359 It's substantially worse in Stills as well, dropping from a 70%ish hit rate to 50% under AF.C (which is sometimes what you need to use for moving subjects on the z axis, AF.S whilst more accurate will result in a lot of fail shots in those situations).
@@SummersSnaps
Yes, I guess it’s subject dependent, I just do regular street photography so I have no issues. I don’t do video and I don’t do sports, but people sometimes move or moving, so you have to be quick.