In case there was any confusion, I am in no way trying to vilify the creators who went to Japan. Many of them are my friends, try really hard, and make interesting & compelling content. My issue is with the system, not individual creators. Please don't go ripping on them in their comments. I didn't make this video to tear down other UA-camrs or divide us. Thanks. 🤓🙏
I don’t know Gerald, I’m seeing a lot of people mobbing on creators and Lumix now. You talk about the influence UA-cam creators have in your video and now your influence has kind of backfired on to others. You have power in your position and you definitely chose to use it.
It's too late. You made them all look like sellouts and now they're getting negative comments. I've already seen a handful of unsubscribe comments on a few channels I follow. I like your channel Gerald, but you cant be surprised at that reaction right? You threw your weight around, and this is the consequence. I think the part of your video you should've edited out is when you described how Lumix must assume other creators will follow orders. I'd assume you wouldnt like the S9 because it isnt made for you given your technical rigor, while some others like lifestyle products. Not necessarily that they're more obedient.
You explained it yourself - people have different standards for cameras. For someone who vlogs in short bursts and doesn't care about a record limit, they don't really need to be watching Gerald Undone style overheating torture tests. Why would Panasonic buy you an expensive plane ticket or send you the camera so you can clickbait its "shortcomings" for views? That would be bad business. It's ONLY business after all. Nothing more, and nothing less. No emotion, just business. So they invite creators with an audience who will get the most value out of a camera with these features. The s9 is not for YOUR audience. That's it bro. You explained it yourself.
@@controllverse4013 Any camera is for his audience. He tests the dynamic range. He is the most technical reviewer. Anyone serious about any camera will watch Mr Undone
I have no problems calling out what happens with influencers trying to be overly positive about a product due to an inherent conflict of interest. Critical thinking is in short supply, as well as "being real." I think the best ambassadors / influencers are those that showcase a new product features without putting other competitors down, and show real world use cases, without being overly gushing positive about the product they got paid to travel to check out. Also helpful- if they are comparing a "successor model" - show what exactly is new, improved, different. This can be done in straightforward ways without the super hype koolaidTM. The worst are the ones that repeat company claims without checking and hype it up like the best thing ever. Or even test a new product in scenarios that are not really stressing it and claim that it does very well in that area. Remember the OM Systems OM-1 unveil? 2 stops better DR/ISO? There were was even an ambassador mis-using photontophotos to "prove it." That was pretty incorrect. I did see a UA-cam that has a channel on cheap used old cameras, all of a sudden showing the S9 in quite a positive light- an outlier in his channel given this is a brand new (not even released) model. What I do have to chuckle at is all the people that think an ambassador/influencer early access "review" is a review, but then that's why it works. These are all inherent conflict of interest even with the best of intentions- because of human psychology- it's only on the natural side of things to be overly positive and if you get more freebies, you have the potential to slide into a real sellout. And the companies of course know this. Don't apologize for this. I think it's good to keep a certain perspective when looking at these videos, and it sure feels a bit weird. This doesn't go only for Panasonic, but for all companies/brands.
Could not agree more on your points here. And I enjoy the passion/tirade. If it helps, this also applies to audio brands. ZOOM no longer sends me products (for loan or for free) to make reviews because they lent me the Podtrak P4 for review and I said in my review that it had a noisy headphone amp. They told me to take the review down. So instead, I bought the recorder and left the video up. They haven't talked to me since (that was in 2020). But what I really wanted to say is that your new lighting design is 🔥 which makes your skin tones so much better (and more like you actually look in real life).
@@blackbugmedia They still have some good products, despite what their marketing people in Japan do or say. The issue was with the marketing bosses in Japan, not at ZOOM USA. My contact at ZOOM USA was the one who probably got in trouble for not "managing" me more carefully. He's a great guy and I felt bad for him. Their F3, F6, and F8 recorders are very good. Their H series recorders are mediocre and ok for beginners, but not very robust for serious filmmaking or content creation.
@@curtisjudd Thanks for the clarification. I actually wanted a H-series for the purpose of plugging into DJ’s mixer at live music events. (And some occasional amateur filmmaking) I would’ve been ok with some noise, considering its price. I just wanted to see how bad/good it is. I’m still considering Tascam X8, on which I watched your review. Thanks for that.
@@blackbugmedia I'd go for the ZOOM F3 before the H series or Tascam. Similar price range, much cleaner recorder. My review: ua-cam.com/video/THEBOa0UUJo/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
He’s not lying, he finds a good couch and sets up camp at the Sony events, witnessed it numerous times 😂 He’s as good at sitting as he is at camera reviews.
@@strippedlist thats not his deal......hes a tech guy, a tool guy, like an armorer or something. Im kind of the same way, just admiring and finding the best camera gear is often far more fun than using the gear. And thats ok, I would bet that the vast majority of camera engineers are pretty average photographers, if even that
Respect. I think it would only really take a few well known creators to establish a new ethos. These companies apply pressure to creators because they know they're relying on the content to plug their paying sponsors. E.g. if major creators draw a line in the sand, it could enact change.
I was scratching my head with so many reviewers being overly subtle about S9 omissions like no hot shoe , shutter or and the f8 lens. This explains a lot
As a full time video producer, I tend to gravitate to the videos on UA-cam where the person reviewing the product has worked with it for a while in multiple scenarios and can touch on the positives and the negatives equally. Those videos are much more helpful to pick the right camera(or other gear) to rent, which I then use in multiple real world scenarios before making a purchase. Purchasing a new product that I will use for multiple years before upgrading again takes research, thought, and testing so I do not waste money on something that does not perform in the way I need. Thank you for the content that you produce.
Yeah me too, the best “reviews” are the ones like 1 year with camera X or Z. Thats when they really speak the truth, reviews on schedule when company give it too you for a short period of time will never give you a deep knowledge too “influence” people too get it. Plus i never bought anything on lunch like that there is no camera or other gear that i would get that fast.
When Fuji switched things up on us and started sending review units after embargo I kind of thought it was a weird move. I think this only applied to us in Canada. But, honestly didn’t really impact views being a few weeks late. And since we got it later we can actually open and view the raw files which I think is important to include in a review. I also I agree with you on Sony. Probably the best camera brand I’ve dealt with. You don’t have to worry about saying anything negative and they are always there to listen and improve which is a huge reason to like them not only as a company but also the products they make. I might make my own video off this topic because there’s a few things I’d like to add .
Fuji takes so long to ship a new product anyways, I would rather pre-order it on release day and wait for post-embargo videos to do a thorough test on a production unit so I can decide if I want to cancel my pre-order.
I buy the shit with my own money that I think I might want to actually use and my channel is small, but I take a lot of shit for "switching" all the time. I guess if I got it for free and and I had 500K subs it would be all right?
The problem with many small channels is that they are often fanboyish and brand-loyal even without having any access. So their reviews are imho often just as skewed towards certain brands and products as bigger channels who get paid. I believe the best solution is to watch really big channels who are beyond wanting early access and don't really care about it.
I will have huge respect for the first UA-cam 'reviewer' who uses a camera for a year and produces some meaningful and worthwhile work with it and then publishes their review.
Back when we shot the launch video for one of these companies they asked that my wife not be included in the videos because "certain countries will get upset". I included her anyways (last minute addition...oops) and they left us off of the NAB rollout despite everyone in the department saying it was the best launch video they had seen for their cameras. So...you're not wrong. It exists.
@@LukeNeumann Ah. Joking aside, that’s not cool. Panasonic isn’t covering itself in glory here. I have no dog in this fight but am happy to see Sony being rewarded for doing the right thing.
It's not my strategy, cause I would like to have a lot of views, but so far this is my reality :D. I would probably reject most of the proposals anyway. Or do 1 review and been never contacted again :D. The only camera I would probably review positively is S5IIX. I really like that camera, but switching to L-mount from e-mount is to expensive.
I like that Sony wants the feedback. I like that Fuji stopped doing beta FW reviews (No excuses/caveats to hide behind). Gerald - I’m stingy as F**k, but this got my wallet on the table. Well said.
Gerald probs needs a pareon that will fund purchase of cameras, then his incentives align with viewers, not camera companies. Thanks for leading theway tornado
I agree, but then does Sony act on anything? I ask because they still rarely update firmware, and they still cripple hdmi out at 4k60. :/ My A1 cost how much again and I can’t sent 8k out over hdmi? 😂😂😂🤦♂️ Maybe someday.
@@FloydTaylor If he could have, he would have. His content is worthless without bots using it to illegally promote viral advertisements. He is the problem and he doesn't know how to handle his ego yet.
@@mygeartvWell, Sony does listen and improve, but pretty slowly compare to Nikon lol. But in the case with a1 and 8k hdmi out, I think that mighty be hardware limitation, since hdmi 2.0 bandwith is limited to 4k60 for uncompressed video signal, unless the camera hardware somehow supports hdmi 2.1.
@@FloydTaylor The problem with that is we'd have to wait months for reviews, and I for one have bought many expensive pieces of gear based solely on Gerald's review as it drops when the item hits the market. To make a purchasing decision I have to ether watch 20 UA-cam reviews, or 1 Gerald review. I much prefer the latter.
Wow. I'm in the 3D printing space, and this spoke to my SOUL man. The "certain companies are punitive" - big time. Respecting brands who don't try to get me to filter... totally. Everything you said was spot on.
I think the main issue on YT are people reviewing gear that they actually don't need or use and basically change brands and products every week just for clicks and views. Anyone reviewing products (especially cameras) should have a real use for it and know how to film first. Personally for example I only review stuff I either need for a specific project or that would complement my kit in a genuine way for my documentary work. I say no to 95% of requests I get and I always make sure to say what I like but also what I don't like and what doesn't work, regardless of the company or product.
"You don't review that brand anymore." I guess it's great that some folks review everything, but that's really only useful for the viewers that haven't dedicated themselves to a brand. I'm not really gonna watch a video about a camera brand I'm not monitoring. I don't know why anyone would, unless they're looking to switch. But I'd really rather watch a review by someone that's invested in the brand than someone just reviewing to make another review video.
I don't think you can expect professional reviewers of any range of products to have an ongoing use for every product. If you ask someone who uses X day in day out to review X, you will only receive a users perspective, not the view from someone who can place X within the broader contextual landscape in which it is situated
@@lindsaywebb1904 I think you need this when people review cameras against cameras or lenses against lenses. I personally value opinions from people that have extensive knowledge of one system or brand other another because it shows real case scenarios.
They were not told in advance what the product was going to be. But the rumors did suggest it would be a compact camera, perhaps a full frame. We will never know if they had known it would have no EVF and no flash capability if they would have still gone.
I always said no to camera events cause I thought they were pretty lame and then I went to one and I dont think ill ever go again (like you said only good thing about them is hanging out with friends). unless its in maui then im going everytime. i like the honesty Gerald.
Big big fan of the honesty, transparency and call to action. The whole idea that someone can go on UA-cam and make a living and do what they love is at risk if nobody can trust the people on it because of a flawed system that just pushes products that people probably can’t afford it probably don’t need. The photography world is great, the personalities are amazing and the dedication to their videos is top notch. That fact that there’s SO much pressure to constantly push products and cozy up to brands is just NOT fun for anyone and makes it awkward for the creators. I feel like you’d be hard pressed to find a creator that thinks this system is sustainable and working great. Nobody says anything about it because they know the impending backlash from brands, other creators and people in the comments. It always blows my mind when people face any kind of hate for honesty and transparency- especially when it’s done with good intentions and in a factual, non hateful way. A system where honesty is punished is so sad so thank you for actually saying your truth here
Kudos to you! I watched your video and felt like you were one of the few people who was completely transparent about the camera and didn't get on the hype train like many of the other reviewers.
@@rmrpictures1 hey thanks. It’s definitely one of the reasons that I got my samples while there but recorded my actual video back in my studio instead. Wanted to have some distance from it all.
Back when I was reviewing camera gear, I never managed to get in with any of the main brands, but many of the lower end brands that I did deal with seemed to be more than happy to receive criticism, as long as it was fair and constructive, they kept coming back. Kind of seems like big UA-cam channels are obviously going to prioritise the big brand stuff because that's what pulls in the views, but the big brands are happy to play the market and drive the hype, where as the smaller brands have a genuine interest in addressing feedback - It would definitely be a wake up call to some of the big brands if youtubers stopped putting videos out straight away and instead did a more in-depth test - brands would have to start to listening to feedback or be left with no marketing power
I miss your gear reviews, but I do love your new videos as well, still entertaining and I always learn something from them. Just sad that we still have to discuss whether we live on a globe or flat earth.
It made me think why you had exchanged your subject domain 100% with convincing flat earthers about the globe. The reason probably isn't, that you want your funeral eulogy praise you as "he had served mankind by spending half of his life with arguing against flat earthers on UA-cam" 😉 The actual reason must be more profane, i.e. more subs and more views, than with just photography? This probably indicates how much the system photography enthusiast market has shrunk by now.
What annoys me is when reviewers say "we can't show you the RAWs because this is still pre-production" or "This feature may improve with production firmware". If the camera is not ready, do not send it to reviewers. Reviewers should refuse to review products if the manufacturer will not let them do a complete review.
This is totally wrong. Giving you as much info as early as possible is a good thing. As long as they are clear as to what data they don't have, and preferably post a full review later, there's no issue.
It's the double-edged sword of a desync between hardware/software. Firmware update potential over the life of a camera vs. when is it "complete." IMO, buy for the features it has NOW, not future promises - which reviewers are pretty good about caveating. What's not so great is that when/if those updates happen down the line they usually aren't a big enough headline to get a new wave of videos and you can't revise a youtube video to add in new context, so it's harder to follow up as a consumer and see if the possible pre-production hiccups actually got addressed.
You're absolutely right Gerald, and as you mentioned, it doesn't happen only in the "cameras" world! Another growing issue I frequently encounter is brands asking us not to disclose how we received the goods, or at least not to mention that the specific video is sponsored in any way!
Thnx for making this. My fav part is something you and I chat about all the time, which is finding your own lane. You don’t need to be first. You don’t need new things. You just need a point of view. My hope is everyone feels more empowered to speak their mind and be themselves on their platforms. I know the audience is craving it now more than ever.
@@strippedlist But his nerd approach to cameras is crucial to all professionals and amateurs. He's a unique camera enthusiast that adds so much to the table just like CineD.
Thanks for making this video, Gerald! I have similar experience in the automotive sector, where some brands will simply ghost creators for not being enthusiastic enough about their product. On the other hand there are those, who see value in constructive criticism, and we see improvements from model to model or generation to generation. Kudos to those brands, though more often than not it's a matter of long time relationship with the person in charge of PR. They are not your friends, but knowing them for 20 years, as they move from brand to brand helps. As for launch events, I think they are designed for print media, where a journalist on a salary could afford to spend a couple of days traveling to-and-fro an event (and loved every minute of it!), write a brief note of what was being presented, and awaited a review sample back home to do a full piece for their magazine in two months. As freelancers we make money creating content, not watching presentations, which could have been an e-mail. I don't recall the last time I was surprised to learn something at an event that I haven't read in the press release. And I always ask for a press release prior to the event to prepare at least 80% of the script to film the review in the brief time we get with the product. And the last time I learned something valuable from an engineer present at the launch event was probably 10 years ago. These days they are all prepped, and never go off script, so they will not tell the media anything beyond the scope of the press release related to this specific event. So yes, similar experience, being first no longer carries much value, and products actually worth reviewing are few and far between. One could say we're jaded :)
I’m gonna be honest, I didn’t expect you to be able to hit this hard without sounding bitter. I’m sitting over here taking notes lol. I don’t think this video could have been made any better. We need these kinds of videos in order to course correct, hopefully both from brands and creators. Good work and god speed homie.
This is a great video for all of us to hear. New creators and seasoned creators go through the same fears and you are right we should change the way we view ourselves and what we stand for in our category.
To be honest, I don't think camera manufacturers are interested in "reviews" from UA-camrs and influencers. What they are looking for is marketing. You get to make a video about a new product that gets you views and thus revenue. They get free-ish marketing for their product. That's how the influencer economy works. Thorough reviews are certainly an available genre, but I seriously doubt camera manufacturers are particularly interested in yours or anyone else's reviews. Not because they are evil, but because it likely doesn't mean as much to their R+D teams as you might think. Product design is based off of extensive market studies, not as much on individual feedback as we'd all like to think. They make a product they think will sell and make money, not necessarily the product they think ticks the most boxes for the most highly regarded reviewers.
While there's a lot of truth in what you're saying about having free marketing, I think any company is interested in a UA-camr's review if it's not a good review and if that UA-camr has a significant audience. Look what happened recently with MKBHD and that AI pin that he panned. That review hit the company hard and you can't convince me they didn't care about that review. But you're right about the fact that they want the free marketing and they're going to cherry-pick who they give access to get the coverage they want. Apple did that for years with one writer that always had access. I think some UA-camrs should decided on whether they want to be PR folks or not. It's okay if they do. I like reading and watching about new products like anyone else. But there's plenty of room for the real reporters of the truth that bring true value to their audiences. It might not be as glamourous as getting chauffeured around in Tokyo or Stockholm by big brands, but if their audience is large enough, they'll definitely get the brand's attention.
Same as gear review websites before youtube was a thing, right? Unbiased review sites are those that have the scale to buy their own stuff and test it all independently. Consumer reports etc. (Not a good site for camera reviews btw, where the deep details matter).
The most insane thing about this is that it just doesn't apply to cameras and gear, it applies to video games, movies, TV shows, apple products, etc. It's an entire aspect of tech/media/publicity that absolutely needs a systematic change from the ground up and this video is incredible, so thank you.
Right? Isn’t that exactly what a prescreening for a feature film is like? Hype up the film guys and sit them in a room with the director and main actors? Like who isn’t gonna get excited for that kind of experience?
Yep, snazzy labs has made similar videos about Apple not liking criticism either. It is the capitalist world we live in, one wrong word and your business could be in tatters, so they all do this horrendous nonsense Gerald mentions.
The one that touches on my interests is running shoes. I can only think of two major UA-camr who do shoe reviews who buy 100% of the shoes they review.
Gerald you are the man. Please never change. If our fellow creators can't take a bit of criticism then that's on them honestly. You go on a press event and become a marketing tool for a new product then you have to expect to be criticized for it. It's just a stupid camera anyways and they will do just fine moving on and / or hopefully use this moment to reflect and think about how they (we) have helped build this flawed system. Us creators can easily become disconnected with not only ourselves but also how the audience perceives us. That's why a commentary like this can be a helpful reality check. Who would have thought that "You"Tube works the best when you are true to yourself and not compromise to please corporations for a bit of vanity and monetary gain? Do sponsorships and brand deals if you need to (or want to), totally fine. But do not pretend you are not benefiting from the privileges you are receiving. Almost every S9 review had a sponsor in them so they got their paycheck. Just own it and grow some thick skin.
This is a great video, i just started making some camera content so it's good to know the behind the scenes stuff. This is exactly why i focus on long term reviews, i just always found it more useful when shopping around
It started with Philip Bloom and not showing how bad the Canon 5Dmkii line skipping was. I decided to never listen to what he thinks again. Gerald is totally on point here. Bravo! The real sin here is that the brands are trying to get free advertising AND influence the content of that free advertising. Gerald is right. This has got to end.
A sellout hobby UA-camr who was in Osaka here: I was at both 2022 Tokyo Lumix event and 2024 Osaka event. Back when the S5 II was released, I was the only one to say that the A7 IV IBIS with active mode is actually better in some situations (that is no longer the case). There was a ton of videos showing how good is the S5 II IBIS at 24+ mm, but no videos revealing that there is warping at ultra-wide angles. I was accused of being Sony fanboy, paid by Sony etc. There was a lot of drama on rumor sites. Then I made a separate video showing side-by-side samples in many scenarios that couldn't be disputed. Panasonic has called me to ask whether I have updated FW in the camera, I said that I have. Then they said that my testing is representative and everything is OK. I got invited to London event for S5 II X and Osaka event for the S9. Nobody from Panasonic has never said anything bad about any of my criticism, including my video about leaving Panasonic's M43 system and S5 review where I said pretty bad things about the AF. I have never felt pressured by Panasonic, Fujifilm or Sony. Nikon would prefer I just read their press release, I am probably banned from reviewing Canon cameras. Also worth mentioning is that the is a ton of pressure from the toxic part of photography community to criticize everything. I don't care about that either, if I think that a widely criticized camera, such as the S9 or even X100VI is actually good, I will just say it... I guess that "being at an event shaming" makes being there as risky as not being there from the YT success perspective :)
Just a quick note - I do believe the discussion / drama / storm in a tea cup was about stabilisation in general, not just ultrawide. Feels like a decade ago though. I don't think anyone could've denied corner wobbling introduced by Panasonic's strong IBIS (something Sony is not burdened with). As you say Lumix got their act together and made their e-stabe actually useful.
There is no point in pointing fingers. First, we don't really know. Second, it doesn't matter. What is important is that for companies UA-cam "reviews" is an extension of their marketing campaign. And marketing is not about objectivity, it's about selling the product. As long as the companies are involved in that process that means "selling" is working.
@@AoyagiAichou The issue was there there was a lot of videos showing walking at 35+mm. I have no idea why. The wobbling wasn't visible in those videos at all. I have done the testing at 20mm, because that seemed more logical to me. Sony A7 IV performed better in that test with Active mode, due to the warping on the S5 II, but nobody believed me, because they have seen amazing performance at 35+mm.
@@ElementaryWatson-123 It is much more complicated than that. Objectivity and "selling the product" don't have to be contradicting elements. As I wrote, companies are far from being the only subject involved. There also your viewers, other companies, pressure to criticize everything and so...If you are just a part of marketing, you won't make it very far.
Northrups watch this video: "BREAKING NEWS...100mp SONY CURVED SENSOR COMING SOON" Chris & Jordan watch this video: Make another 20min review about a nothing camera without actually saying anything: "This camera has a screen, it has a lens mount and fits batteries which is amazing and super useful for content creators on the go" Jared Polin: benchmarks everything to the autofocus in sports cameras since he only knows how to shoot sports. All basically useless. Amazon customer reviews are much better which is a sad state of affairs.
@robiulahmed yeah the video came across as salty rather than genuine. Regardless, anyone who watches Camera Conspiracies knew this was all going on behind the scenes. Interesting that they invited him though. Much more critical than gerald
Wow... I had actually just been talking about the current state of UA-cam and photographers and all that. I hadn't seen anyone else talking about it, assumed I was the only one, and just talked into the void about it for a bit. Now, seeing this, hearing your perspective from "that side" of the UA-cam space, and even just hearing the raw and real tone in your voice as you talk about this is unbelievably refreshing. Bravo.
Ironically, I had the same kind of conversation about UA-cam tech reviewers just a week ago. I think the G9 release may have revealed the problem for many people, who didn't notice it before.
UA-cam has become an embarrassment where gear “reviews” are concerned. I only learn from what the reviewers won’t talk about now rather than the exact same talking points as the other “reviewers”. I’m glad that light is being shone on this issue.
I feel like a lot of the distrust of gear reviews started around the time of the DJI Mic 2 release when almost every creator was telling us it how crispy clear it sounded, even when our ears were telling us otherwise. And then they had to make videos about "Oh, we forgot to turn off the low cut. Now it sounds great right? Almost as good as Rode? Maybe?" but our ears were telling us - no, it still sounds the same.
I've probably reviewed more products over my lifetime than most and I must say that this video is a long time coming. It seems the junket experience started with the automotive manufacturers (who used their clout with magazine ads to get positive reviews) and then tricked down to the consumer electronics industry in the 1990's. During my decade with the Today show, I didn't accept the free trips (as NBC paid my way) and other than the WSJ, others in attendance at the events were very much like what you described in your video. In this day and age, it seems there's more "influencers" than true reviewers and that has tarnished the credibility of online reviews. Keep up the good work!
This is psychology. They give you good conditions, they pay for your trip, they treat you well and therefore, as a content creator, it is more difficult for you to say negative things about the company. Unfortunately, many content creators fall into this trap. This is especially evident in the videos about the Panasonic S9.
This was spot on. Thanks for sharing. These conversations are what need to be put out there. Playing the game has good rewards but also risks (and for me, it's super tiring...) I went back to just doing my own thing and remembered how I started - with my own gear and my own thoughts
This is one of the most helpful videos that I have ever watched, both from working with brands to understanding the implications of posting gear reviews. Really appreciate your work, mate.
Man, it is refreshing to watch this. It's one of the reasons why I am VERY on the edge about accepting certain sponsors and brand sponsors. Also, 'being first' videos is seriously mentally tiring. As much as I want to, I tried it for 2-3 months and it was just draining. I couldn't do it but seriously, props to those people that are doing it. Thanks for the great video man!
Watching all the S9 reviews was shocking to me, its way too positive for a camera that is only 200-300 dollars less than the S5 II but has at least 6 major features removed for like a 30% size reduction? Madness! To top it all off, it comes with a manual focus F8 lens, are you kidding! The price should of been way lower, and it should of bundled with that upcoming zoom lens, why would you get an S9 now and then buy that lens later it will end up costing more than the S5 II!!!!!!!
The S9 was designed as a hype-train shakedown. With the rise of street photography and demands for a full frame X100 and XPro4 coming out the LUT features seriously awesome but LUMIX chose to launch it with a Camera with no intrinsic value. It’s manufactured e-waste.
@@adidabax6809 I’m not a LUMIX fanboy (I have used Lumix but mostly Canon and some DJI & Sony now), but I’ve noticed that LUMIX is always getting pooped on compared to the other big names - who remembers the GH5 autofocus gate? UA-camrs made it sound like the worst camera ever b/c they only hammered the AF. It was a really good camera. I don’t think the S9 is the most fantastic camera ever, but I can see the positives in it. It’s jumped into a market competing with Sony and Fuji now. I’ve been following camera reviewers on YT for over a decade, back when everyone was on Canon switching to Sony and I see the back-to-back Sony, Fuji, DJI, Canon content flood my feed when the new thing launches and it’s almost always super positive barely negatives on those launch videos. It makes it easy to tell who is in whose pockets. But it is mostly LUMIX getting pooped on. They’re no better or worse. All these UA-camrs’ videos are the reason for X100V and VI, DJI pocket 3 and every Sony (released in the last 10 years) to get over-hyped and sold out for months. I get that being a serious UA-camr IS a job and they have to get paid somehow, and I get where Gerald is coming from, but seems unfair for a Sony guy to make this video after a LUMIX launch.
The best kind of reviews are ones where the reviewer buys the camera, uses it, and sells it and gets an unrelated sponsor. No early release. Only after the camera is officially launched. Marcus Pix is a great example but he reviews much older gear with a specific target of light and inexpensive.
There is a balance, people ARE interested in the latest gear, but like you wrote interest in gear doesn’t end after the hyped release, at least not if it is a good product. People buying and actually using their own gear are a great source of information, especially if they have been using the gear over a more extended period of time. You’d be amazed how many products practically disappear from YT after the initial hyped release. Puts the hype in perspective. Good piece by Gerald, honest appraisal by a professional who has reached the point of having a successful personal brand.
@@TK421-53 That's key, developing a trustworthy no-hype reputation that gives real value in terms of purchase decisions vs. those who simply hype or are over enthusiastic in everything they see! Gerald is being courteous by calling them enthusiastic people who love gear... I'm more cynical about it. I think the best strategy, as I've seen over the past 15 years of UA-cam, is to wait until after the hype and only listen to a trustworthy reviewer at that point. Cheers!
Thank you for doing this. It needs to be said. I'm in another industry that wrestles with the same concerns. Regarding press events - there's a way to do it responsibly. It's not a review, it's news. "Canon released the R1 today, here is what it looks like and the images it can create. Here is my analysis of where it may fit in the overall market, the cameras it competes with, and how its specs stack up. Here are some quotes from reps (not me) about what it can do and why it's a big deal." Without excitement in my voice, without any marketing language, not really saying much positive or negative about it. It's just info. I'm a newscaster, not a personality. And that's a line that's a struggle for some UA-camrs to walk. But it's freeing when you do.
Cal Newport wrote a book called "Be so good they can't ignore" you about what really matters in work life. He took the quote from Steve Martin on how to be successful in show business. The most important thing is being good. UA-cam often forget focusing on quality.
Was looking for this. A great next watch for those interested is Colin and Samir's interview with Tim Ferriss. Make a product (podcast) so good, you can demand things from advertisers to fit your ethics/business/style that no one else can... because advertising on their shows just isn't as good.
Man, thanks for this video. As I’m growing I kinda feel like this is the next step of natural progression as a UA-camr. Get bigger, work more with brands, get early access to products, attend events etc - this is really eye opening and is making me reconsider my approach. Tech UA-cam in general is in a weird place right now. People are buying fake views and subscribers all over the place, just so they can work with brands and charge money. Brands are happily paying for fake views too… it’s nuts. Appreciate you as always!
110% on your comments at 19:11 regarding brands allowing creators to provide criticism of a product but keep supporting that creator. That builds true trust between the creator and the brand! It builds trust, respect, and loyalty to a brand or product as well. Gotta be able to take the criticisms just as well as the praises. 😉😉😉
Gerald I really value this video as I have myself felt pressure over the years creating the videos you’re talking about. We as a community need to do better for those who seek value in our word. I hope if we all start speaking up there will be more of an integral shift in the review community. Thank you for being so honest
The irony is that Panasonic should pay Gerald for this video as I now know more about the S9 than I care to from all the videos responding to this video.
I'm not sure this wasn't teleprompted. But I'm not judging. Some people are great at writing things down but not so much at talking to a camera for 20 minutes. You might think it's easy, but just try it for yourself once.
Really appreciate you for this, Gerald. As someone newly in this “phase 2” I’m glad you’re speaking up. Absolutely feel that pull to “be first” despite all my best performing (and most fun to make) videos being well after the gear is actually released. Taking this to heart and look forward to hanging out on your comfy couch at the next Sony event
Ironically, it was your review of the LUMIX S5ii that I liked the best and made me want to buy it more than any other! Excellent points made...Keep on keeping on.
Adhering to embargoes has been a thing I keep seeing more and more creators not caring about hitting anymore. They put out the video after it when they feel it’s ready. Rushing to hit the embargo only leads to rushing, stress, missing things, making mistakes, and burn out. It’s not worth it.
Man I have never heard such articulate, accurate and impactful words from a tech content creator! Don't remember me watching a 20+ video completely in one go in last many months! Amazing Gerald! Absolutely amazing!
I think where the waters get really muddy is mixing actual reviewers (You, Gordon Laing, Petapixel) with camera dweebs like me. "Ooooo, new camera, let me play!!" I am not a review channel by any stretch, but instead enjoy sharing my unbiased experience after some real-world usage. I think some non-reviewers come off as genuine while others perhaps...let's say, feel the pressure to "be so excited" about the camera.
Omar, you are one of the YT’s I trust the most. For many reasons, but one is you STILL praise the strengths of older gear. Anyone who uses both newer gear and older gear knows this to be true. I love my Xpro2 more than my X100VI. 😉
Thanks for going public on this. If nothing else, it will increase my skepticism about pre-launch "reviews" of products from Panasonic. Not because those making them are necessarily corrupt, but because the whole process of pre-selecting one's reviewers definitely is.
Unrelated to this, but thank you for this format. I have been thinking about if I want to take the approach of having my notes on screen to help make filming easier and I have been hesitating on it. This gave me more of a push.
I quite love what you have to say about Sony and about respect for brands.. Immunity to risk is not something any reviewer can guarantee, and I would rebound that to cinema reviewers as well. Dishonest product reviews has led us to a worsening world. Thanks, Gerald, for having integrity.
I'm SO glad you're talking about this. I'm really disappointed with the state of UA-cam camera reviewers. I've watched as nearly every UA-camr has become a shill for nearly every camera related product. I had an "aha" moment a few years ago when the Canon R5 came out and one of the biggest / my favorite UA-camr shilled it. He said it was a photo+video powerhouse. When it later came out that it was overheating and not good for video, I realized I can't trust anyone on UA-cam anymore. Well, only a few can be trusted, like you.
But the Canon R5 is a photo and video powerhouse. Wolfcrow made a feature film with it. I can’t remember who did the video on the R5 but it was something like “awesome camera; awful marketing” because it was… Canon pushed it as an 8K weapon when it wasn’t. It was a fringe feature that had serious limitations.
Props to making this video. Was never interested in being a camera reviewer but if I had I know that “playing the game” would always be at the forefront of my mind. And I never liked that aspect.
As an upcoming UA-camr (and long time subscriber) this has been on my mind too. Some channels do the tech reviews for cameras, others do the how-to and others work in the real world use. There are some things that need to be covered off to appease the hand that feeds BUT integrity comes FIRST. We learn, grow and adapt and our sponsors should do this too - thanks for sharing your journey, life and passion making the world a better place
I'm glad you made a video about this. Hopefully this opens up a broader conversation in the community about "reviews". If you ask me, we should do away with the word altogether, but thats a topic for another day. :)
fwiw here, they mentioned to Matt Johnson and I that the main reason we got the invite was because we didn’t get an invite to the first one, despite them knowing the camera wouldn’t be ideal for our audiences. There were some people that they wanted to cycle through and I’m assuming are planning on inviting others to future launches that better suit those audiences
Understandably... a company will invite creators who fit the demographic or audience profile of their camera so that they get the greatest ROI. There are photo cameras, there are video cameras, cinema cameras, and now (if you can believe it) even cameras for tiktokers. As a photographer, I wouldn't expect to get invited to a launch for a cinema camera. Needless to say, I'm glad you and Matt came and that I got to spend time with you ! :)
I couldn't agree with this more 8:45 I almost feel like nowadays theres a detriment to being first in a review wave unless your video somehow also provided the most value (while being pumped out as quick as possible)
Ok, the only point I’d add here is that some of the reviews are very entertaining. Kai and Lok, Jordan and Chris, etc: their videos are often very entertaining as much as they might be informative. If I want the bare, deep, truth I’ll watch you or Richard Wong and others. Most of the time I will watch Kasey first to see what the heck the Board was thinking!
This is exactly what is happening on UA-cam and guys/girls like Gerald will figure out there is another more lucrative market emerging, the one six months from launches where the reviewer buys the product and gives us a review after having used the product sufficiently. THESE are the videos I now seek and I completely ignore launch shill videos of all products. Two different markets of viewers, two different types of creators, and creators can’t play in both markets because the audience in market number 2 will lose all respect and avoid you if you create for market number 1. I think Gerald is ahead of the game and finding a new business model among creators.
I love this brutal honesty, and it’s why I trust Gerald’s reviews and opinion pieces. Regarding the feedback loop between creators and brands, I would say my biggest pet peeve has been companies making design decisions based primarily on criticisms from UA-camrs. An example is the tilt vs fully articulating screen. As someone who primarily does photography and only occasionally shoots a little video, I would prefer a tilt screen always. But I’ve seen YT reviewers complain about an otherwise great camera because it doesn’t have a fully articulating screen - a specific need for a video creator. I think this creates an outsized megaphone for the preferences of people making videos. I love my Nikon Zf - it might be my favorite vintage style camera ever, but the fully articulated screen drives me batshit crazy when trying to shoot low angles. I can get the shot faster with one of my Fuji cameras because I’m not futzing with the screen. The Zf is clearly meant to be photo-centric - the manual control dials are a pain for video, and it’s a replacement for the Df, a photo-centric DSLR. So why did Nikon go with a video-centric screen design over the tilt of the Z6/7? I think it’s because of YT reviewers having an outsized voice at the table. I think this is another side effect of what is a not great system for reviewing gear.
What killed me was that after watching vids for years, I finally bought a real camera. It was a Sony a7S II. First day, I got the error about sensor misalignment. I google the error, and it turns out that this is a known issue. The solution is to smack the camera body. What in the actual f? I had watched dozens, or hundreds of videos about cameras. Sony was very heavy in the rotation. How had no one ever mentioned that this recall-worthy issue existed?
That's why the lag time is sooo important. Marques Brownlee has talked about adhering to the timeline of the embargo is extremely difficult to produce a good review of something and when there's sample size significant enough to warrant a known issue isn't one of the ones he got in testing and makes reviewsblook dishonest. If you look around on most big name products it's a bunch of reviews when it first came out and if the viewers got one of the good ones they might have not have even experienced the issue.
lol, Sony makes good cameras, but they dont have the best quality control. I used several FX6s and a FX9, and the control dial on all of them has minor encoder issues, when you try to scrow down in the menu, it sometimes it scrow up or randomly up and down a few times.
I've been an Apple cert'd master trainer for their pro apps, back in the legacy Final Cut Pro days. I produced training videos, related product updates, reviews on FCPX updates, etc. But once I began questioning the incompleteness of FCPX after a about two years, I got cut off from being a beta testers for Apple, my inside contact with Apple who I was friends with for years just up and stopped responding to me and vanished. It all stopped. I've also noticed Apple is ver seriously doing some heavy censoring of the posts in their FCPX user forum. It's just corporate greed refusing to face truthful facts. This has been American corporate culture my entire life. Glad you did this video. I could be any influencer talking about the corporations in any industry, it all rings sadly true. Thank you for being honest. I'll be subscribing to you now, because of HONESTY (hint, hint, corporations).
Hey Gerald, I was heavily into the camera scene for a while and even did a livestream for FujiFilm here in South Africa. I became quckly jaded when I switched to Lumix and Balckmagic and you could swear I had left a cult. Apart from that, as a fan of yourself and other camera people, I loved watching the vlogs of the trips, I love seeing you and other guys talking nonesense. I have NEVER taken "reviews" from events seriously. And honestly I stopped watching alot of my favourite camera guys who just blatantly didn't disclose paid promotions, or that they were at a press event. You and a few others still get my viewership because you've been so honest. I know it damages your growth but it gives you solid longevity. BTW loved watching a Gerald video again 🙂
People making content have to make money, it's work to make good (keyword) content. Therefore I can't speak against ads, I even let ada play fully on content I like. I read too many people who don't want ads but then they don't want to pay to subscribe for good content they like either, but somehow expect the creators to put time, money and effort into good content and magically make a living lol
I’m a happy GH5 and S5ii X owner and given the generally high quality of the cameras, it surprising that the LUMIX marketing folks are so insecure. The engineers at LUMIX are doing a great job, the bean counters are allowing great features to be included without the horrible market segmentation of companies like Sony. So why are the marketing folks not confident in the products standing on their own? As they refine PDAF they are going to directly compete with Sony and Canon on features. Corporate needs to clean house and bring in people who convey confidence in the brand by accepting and welcoming earnest, complete reviews.
The Panasonic people may have been insecure, because the product itself wasn't as compelling (as other Pani products). It seems to target a very specific niche.
I don’t do tech content but I do create gaming content where certain massive updates are behind embargo. While it may be that camera based content is not time sensitive it sadly isn’t the case for the gaming industry and companies such as riot games have a massive grip on the creators in the industry. Literally my colleagues are so scared shitless of criticizing the company for their decisions in fear of being “replaced” as you said. I love the transparency and hold massive respect for you and creators alike speaking up on dishonest practices. Let’s get undone!
I had to pause to go get a cold beer for this one. Thanks for telling it straight up as anyone not in the space knows it goes on. Your ratings will always be higher from your audience if you are balanced and honest.
Gerald, what's funny is that your S5 review is the reason I got the S5, and yes i knew the autofocus was bad, but after I saw all the other aspects of the camera I pulled the trigger. It's funny that they think your title would deter people from buying it. But if you look at all the S9 titles, you will get why, they are all touting it as the holy grail of street cameras, and really, it's not. The simple fact that it has no EVF just takes it out of the competition.
Holy grail of street camera!? That's the funniest thing I've heard this week. Probably that title will be gone when something like x-e5 comes out, pair it with xf18f2 and you'll get around 27mm f2.8, much better than the s9 pancake pairing
this is a fantadstic video. I review hunting gear and struggle with a lot of these issues in my industry as well. I really appreciate you taking the time to do this Gerald.
As people invited to the S5II launch I can echo what Gerald is saying. The value of the trips and cameras are very limited. Way less than just shooting another wedding or commercial gig. It def feels great to get that invite and bad to be excluded or accused of shilling. I think the biggest issue is that in reality the singularity that is at the center of the camera industry (all theses cameras are good and have simple features) is making the content we all make boring and redundant. Anyway… appreciate the vid Gerald!
On the contrary, the products speak for themselves. Even if they don't invite him to all the exclusive stuff, he'll eventually get his hands on the hardware and put out an honest review. The smart companies will roll with the punches and keep inviting him. Not every release is a home run that rocks the industry. Watching this reminded me of the guys at Top Gear back in the day when they would do a bad review. The more things change the more they stay the same.
The S9 announcement was one of the strangest announcement rollouts I've seen, with so many creators (both big and relatively unknown) dropping videos for such an out-of-nowhere, mediocre camera. It's like they knew it was a bad camera with no potential market and tried to cover it up with hype, which is why the disconnect between influencers and regular customers became so apparent.
In case there was any confusion, I am in no way trying to vilify the creators who went to Japan. Many of them are my friends, try really hard, and make interesting & compelling content. My issue is with the system, not individual creators. Please don't go ripping on them in their comments. I didn't make this video to tear down other UA-camrs or divide us. Thanks. 🤓🙏
I don’t know Gerald, I’m seeing a lot of people mobbing on creators and Lumix now. You talk about the influence UA-cam creators have in your video and now your influence has kind of backfired on to others. You have power in your position and you definitely chose to use it.
It's too late. You made them all look like sellouts and now they're getting negative comments. I've already seen a handful of unsubscribe comments on a few channels I follow. I like your channel Gerald, but you cant be surprised at that reaction right? You threw your weight around, and this is the consequence. I think the part of your video you should've edited out is when you described how Lumix must assume other creators will follow orders. I'd assume you wouldnt like the S9 because it isnt made for you given your technical rigor, while some others like lifestyle products. Not necessarily that they're more obedient.
You explained it yourself - people have different standards for cameras. For someone who vlogs in short bursts and doesn't care about a record limit, they don't really need to be watching Gerald Undone style overheating torture tests. Why would Panasonic buy you an expensive plane ticket or send you the camera so you can clickbait its "shortcomings" for views? That would be bad business. It's ONLY business after all. Nothing more, and nothing less. No emotion, just business. So they invite creators with an audience who will get the most value out of a camera with these features. The s9 is not for YOUR audience. That's it bro. You explained it yourself.
@@controllverse4013 Any camera is for his audience. He tests the dynamic range. He is the most technical reviewer. Anyone serious about any camera will watch Mr Undone
I have no problems calling out what happens with influencers trying to be overly positive about a product due to an inherent conflict of interest. Critical thinking is in short supply, as well as "being real."
I think the best ambassadors / influencers are those that showcase a new product features without putting other competitors down, and show real world use cases, without being overly gushing positive about the product they got paid to travel to check out. Also helpful- if they are comparing a "successor model" - show what exactly is new, improved, different. This can be done in straightforward ways without the super hype koolaidTM.
The worst are the ones that repeat company claims without checking and hype it up like the best thing ever. Or even test a new product in scenarios that are not really stressing it and claim that it does very well in that area. Remember the OM Systems OM-1 unveil? 2 stops better DR/ISO? There were was even an ambassador mis-using photontophotos to "prove it." That was pretty incorrect.
I did see a UA-cam that has a channel on cheap used old cameras, all of a sudden showing the S9 in quite a positive light- an outlier in his channel given this is a brand new (not even released) model.
What I do have to chuckle at is all the people that think an ambassador/influencer early access "review" is a review, but then that's why it works. These are all inherent conflict of interest even with the best of intentions- because of human psychology- it's only on the natural side of things to be overly positive and if you get more freebies, you have the potential to slide into a real sellout. And the companies of course know this.
Don't apologize for this. I think it's good to keep a certain perspective when looking at these videos, and it sure feels a bit weird. This doesn't go only for Panasonic, but for all companies/brands.
Could not agree more on your points here. And I enjoy the passion/tirade. If it helps, this also applies to audio brands. ZOOM no longer sends me products (for loan or for free) to make reviews because they lent me the Podtrak P4 for review and I said in my review that it had a noisy headphone amp. They told me to take the review down. So instead, I bought the recorder and left the video up. They haven't talked to me since (that was in 2020).
But what I really wanted to say is that your new lighting design is 🔥 which makes your skin tones so much better (and more like you actually look in real life).
Always good to get your insight, Curtis. Thanks for sharing.
I was waiting for your review on H6 Essential, Curtis. Thanks for sharing your story. I will now think twice about the brand.
@@blackbugmedia They still have some good products, despite what their marketing people in Japan do or say. The issue was with the marketing bosses in Japan, not at ZOOM USA. My contact at ZOOM USA was the one who probably got in trouble for not "managing" me more carefully. He's a great guy and I felt bad for him.
Their F3, F6, and F8 recorders are very good. Their H series recorders are mediocre and ok for beginners, but not very robust for serious filmmaking or content creation.
@@curtisjudd Thanks for the clarification. I actually wanted a H-series for the purpose of plugging into DJ’s mixer at live music events. (And some occasional amateur filmmaking) I would’ve been ok with some noise, considering its price. I just wanted to see how bad/good it is. I’m still considering Tascam X8, on which I watched your review. Thanks for that.
@@blackbugmedia I'd go for the ZOOM F3 before the H series or Tascam. Similar price range, much cleaner recorder. My review: ua-cam.com/video/THEBOa0UUJo/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
He’s not lying, he finds a good couch and sets up camp at the Sony events, witnessed it numerous times 😂 He’s as good at sitting as he is at camera reviews.
Truth
@@strippedlistwhat’s your point
@@strippedlist He spends time fiddling in the menus and testing the limits so the photographers and videographers don't have to. Symbiosis.
@@strippedlist Gerald's videos are reviews, not a portfolio. If you want to learn how a machine works, you ask an engineer, not a pilot.
@@strippedlist thats not his deal......hes a tech guy, a tool guy, like an armorer or something. Im kind of the same way, just admiring and finding the best camera gear is often far more fun than using the gear. And thats ok, I would bet that the vast majority of camera engineers are pretty average photographers, if even that
HUGE RESPECT! I would not compromise the trust of my audience ever for any brand review on my channel - no price! Respect. Darren
i love your colour grading videos
@@KhrisDCForever Thank you, wish you all the best, darren
Respect. I think it would only really take a few well known creators to establish a new ethos. These companies apply pressure to creators because they know they're relying on the content to plug their paying sponsors. E.g. if major creators draw a line in the sand, it could enact change.
I was scratching my head with so many reviewers being overly subtle about S9 omissions like no hot shoe , shutter or and the f8 lens. This explains a lot
It's trash
And no autofocus on the pancake lens???? How can they overlook autofocus on a new lens in 2024???
@@lawfulmasses Do you even need af on a 28mm lens at f/8? Nope-
@@russbo97you don't need 28mm that starts with f8.
As a full time video producer, I tend to gravitate to the videos on UA-cam where the person reviewing the product has worked with it for a while in multiple scenarios and can touch on the positives and the negatives equally. Those videos are much more helpful to pick the right camera(or other gear) to rent, which I then use in multiple real world scenarios before making a purchase. Purchasing a new product that I will use for multiple years before upgrading again takes research, thought, and testing so I do not waste money on something that does not perform in the way I need. Thank you for the content that you produce.
Yeah me too, the best “reviews” are the ones like 1 year with camera X or Z. Thats when they really speak the truth, reviews on schedule when company give it too you for a short period of time will never give you a deep knowledge too “influence” people too get it. Plus i never bought anything on lunch like that there is no camera or other gear that i would get that fast.
When Fuji switched things up on us and started sending review units after embargo I kind of thought it was a weird move. I think this only applied to us in Canada. But, honestly didn’t really impact views being a few weeks late. And since we got it later we can actually open and view the raw files which I think is important to include in a review. I also I agree with you on Sony. Probably the best camera brand I’ve dealt with. You don’t have to worry about saying anything negative and they are always there to listen and improve which is a huge reason to like them not only as a company but also the products they make. I might make my own video off this topic because there’s a few things I’d like to add .
I'd love to watch it, Lee.
You should! I’d like to hear your thoughts.
I’ll be tuning in 💪
Love your stuff Lee
Fuji takes so long to ship a new product anyways, I would rather pre-order it on release day and wait for post-embargo videos to do a thorough test on a production unit so I can decide if I want to cancel my pre-order.
I think that's why I watch super small channels that buy the shit with their own money.
I buy the shit with my own money that I think I might want to actually use and my channel is small, but I take a lot of shit for "switching" all the time. I guess if I got it for free and and I had 500K subs it would be all right?
The problem with many small channels is that they are often fanboyish and brand-loyal even without having any access. So their reviews are imho often just as skewed towards certain brands and products as bigger channels who get paid.
I believe the best solution is to watch really big channels who are beyond wanting early access and don't really care about it.
Exactly!
Like me 😂
THIS RIGHT HERE.. I have to dig for smaller channels but the videos are so much more authentic.
I will have huge respect for the first UA-cam 'reviewer' who uses a camera for a year and produces some meaningful and worthwhile work with it and then publishes their review.
Back when we shot the launch video for one of these companies they asked that my wife not be included in the videos because "certain countries will get upset".
I included her anyways (last minute addition...oops) and they left us off of the NAB rollout despite everyone in the department saying it was the best launch video they had seen for their cameras.
So...you're not wrong. It exists.
What about your wife has the potential to upset nation states? That’s a superpower.
@@samuel_d I took it as "try to not feature a woman in the video too much" (wink wink)
@@LukeNeumann Ah. Joking aside, that’s not cool. Panasonic isn’t covering itself in glory here.
I have no dog in this fight but am happy to see Sony being rewarded for doing the right thing.
@@samuel_d It definitely caught us off guard. I couldn’t believe they kept our video out of the NAB showcase.
All of this stuff has made me reconsider what Panasonic are at. Their ‘social cleansing’ behaviour here shows an ugly mindset.
The key for me is to have views so low that the companies never notice me. Flawless plan. 😂 Seriously, this video is really helpful.
I’m glad Sony gave you a five minute break while they had a cigarette in a towel; Mark- your reviews are awesome and genuine. Have no fear.
It's not my strategy, cause I would like to have a lot of views, but so far this is my reality :D.
I would probably reject most of the proposals anyway. Or do 1 review and been never contacted again :D.
The only camera I would probably review positively is S5IIX. I really like that camera, but switching to L-mount from e-mount is to expensive.
Imagine I had to review a guitar with another guitar. Is that how it feels reviewing a camera?
I watch both of your reviews and they influenced me on buying my first camera a week ago, so you're getting my views at least! Cheers from Toronto!
love your videos @mark
I like that Sony wants the feedback. I like that Fuji stopped doing beta FW reviews (No excuses/caveats to hide behind).
Gerald - I’m stingy as F**k, but this got my wallet on the table. Well said.
Gerald probs needs a pareon that will fund purchase of cameras, then his incentives align with viewers, not camera companies. Thanks for leading theway tornado
I agree, but then does Sony act on anything? I ask because they still rarely update firmware, and they still cripple hdmi out at 4k60. :/ My A1 cost how much again and I can’t sent 8k out over hdmi? 😂😂😂🤦♂️ Maybe someday.
@@FloydTaylor If he could have, he would have. His content is worthless without bots using it to illegally promote viral advertisements. He is the problem and he doesn't know how to handle his ego yet.
@@mygeartvWell, Sony does listen and improve, but pretty slowly compare to Nikon lol. But in the case with a1 and 8k hdmi out, I think that mighty be hardware limitation, since hdmi 2.0 bandwith is limited to 4k60 for uncompressed video signal, unless the camera hardware somehow supports hdmi 2.1.
@@FloydTaylor The problem with that is we'd have to wait months for reviews, and I for one have bought many expensive pieces of gear based solely on Gerald's review as it drops when the item hits the market.
To make a purchasing decision I have to ether watch 20 UA-cam reviews, or 1 Gerald review. I much prefer the latter.
Wow. I'm in the 3D printing space, and this spoke to my SOUL man. The "certain companies are punitive" - big time. Respecting brands who don't try to get me to filter... totally. Everything you said was spot on.
I think the main issue on YT are people reviewing gear that they actually don't need or use and basically change brands and products every week just for clicks and views. Anyone reviewing products (especially cameras) should have a real use for it and know how to film first.
Personally for example I only review stuff I either need for a specific project or that would complement my kit in a genuine way for my documentary work.
I say no to 95% of requests I get and I always make sure to say what I like but also what I don't like and what doesn't work, regardless of the company or product.
Exactly!!!!
"You don't review that brand anymore." I guess it's great that some folks review everything, but that's really only useful for the viewers that haven't dedicated themselves to a brand. I'm not really gonna watch a video about a camera brand I'm not monitoring. I don't know why anyone would, unless they're looking to switch. But I'd really rather watch a review by someone that's invested in the brand than someone just reviewing to make another review video.
I don't think you can expect professional reviewers of any range of products to have an ongoing use for every product. If you ask someone who uses X day in day out to review X, you will only receive a users perspective, not the view from someone who can place X within the broader contextual landscape in which it is situated
@@lindsaywebb1904 I think you need this when people review cameras against cameras or lenses against lenses. I personally value opinions from people that have extensive knowledge of one system or brand other another because it shows real case scenarios.
They were not told in advance what the product was going to be. But the rumors did suggest it would be a compact camera, perhaps a full frame. We will never know if they had known it would have no EVF and no flash capability if they would have still gone.
You're amazingly brave and awesome for talking about this topic and making this video, Gerald. Thank you!
I always said no to camera events cause I thought they were pretty lame and then I went to one and I dont think ill ever go again (like you said only good thing about them is hanging out with friends). unless its in maui then im going everytime. i like the honesty Gerald.
@mattih did you quit UA-cam?
You’d review a camera after using it for 90 minutes dude
You were the least credible of the whole bunch, until you quitted… or so we were told…
bruh, just stay in your corner. you're only in the youtube space because you're friends with Peter. you were part of this problem, too.
Come back bro!!!! 😢
Big big fan of the honesty, transparency and call to action.
The whole idea that someone can go on UA-cam and make a living and do what they love is at risk if nobody can trust the people on it because of a flawed system that just pushes products that people probably can’t afford it probably don’t need.
The photography world is great, the personalities are amazing and the dedication to their videos is top notch. That fact that there’s SO much pressure to constantly push products and cozy up to brands is just NOT fun for anyone and makes it awkward for the creators.
I feel like you’d be hard pressed to find a creator that thinks this system is sustainable and working great. Nobody says anything about it because they know the impending backlash from brands, other creators and people in the comments.
It always blows my mind when people face any kind of hate for honesty and transparency- especially when it’s done with good intentions and in a factual, non hateful way.
A system where honesty is punished is so sad so thank you for actually saying your truth here
Thanks!
let’s get undone
Definitely going to make an “UA-cam ethics” style video soon.
@@benjhaisch do please. I watch your stuff cause you have been super helpful
Setting expectations on gear and helped me NOT waste my money. 😘
@benjhaisch is my super hero and I purchased a 907x because of him ❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉
Kudos to you! I watched your video and felt like you were one of the few people who was completely transparent about the camera and didn't get on the hype train like many of the other reviewers.
@@rmrpictures1 hey thanks. It’s definitely one of the reasons that I got my samples while there but recorded my actual video back in my studio instead. Wanted to have some distance from it all.
Back when I was reviewing camera gear, I never managed to get in with any of the main brands, but many of the lower end brands that I did deal with seemed to be more than happy to receive criticism, as long as it was fair and constructive, they kept coming back.
Kind of seems like big UA-cam channels are obviously going to prioritise the big brand stuff because that's what pulls in the views, but the big brands are happy to play the market and drive the hype, where as the smaller brands have a genuine interest in addressing feedback - It would definitely be a wake up call to some of the big brands if youtubers stopped putting videos out straight away and instead did a more in-depth test - brands would have to start to listening to feedback or be left with no marketing power
Still remember your video where you used a telephoto lens and made a huge image by stitching like a hundred photos together. You were good man.
I miss your gear reviews, but I do love your new videos as well, still entertaining and I always learn something from them. Just sad that we still have to discuss whether we live on a globe or flat earth.
It made me think why you had exchanged your subject domain 100% with convincing flat earthers about the globe.
The reason probably isn't, that you want your funeral eulogy praise you as "he had served mankind by spending half of his life with arguing against flat earthers on UA-cam" 😉
The actual reason must be more profane, i.e. more subs and more views, than with just photography? This probably indicates how much the system photography enthusiast market has shrunk by now.
Unfortunately he lost followers for switching from camera to nonsense arguing
What annoys me is when reviewers say "we can't show you the RAWs because this is still pre-production" or "This feature may improve with production firmware". If the camera is not ready, do not send it to reviewers. Reviewers should refuse to review products if the manufacturer will not let them do a complete review.
That‘s why I always liked it, when people differentiate between a preview and a review.
They're not reviewers, they're shills
This is totally wrong. Giving you as much info as early as possible is a good thing. As long as they are clear as to what data they don't have, and preferably post a full review later, there's no issue.
Just tag Jared polin why don't cha 🤣
It's the double-edged sword of a desync between hardware/software. Firmware update potential over the life of a camera vs. when is it "complete." IMO, buy for the features it has NOW, not future promises - which reviewers are pretty good about caveating. What's not so great is that when/if those updates happen down the line they usually aren't a big enough headline to get a new wave of videos and you can't revise a youtube video to add in new context, so it's harder to follow up as a consumer and see if the possible pre-production hiccups actually got addressed.
Thanks
You're absolutely right Gerald, and as you mentioned, it doesn't happen only in the "cameras" world! Another growing issue I frequently encounter is brands asking us not to disclose how we received the goods, or at least not to mention that the specific video is sponsored in any way!
Thnx for making this. My fav part is something you and I chat about all the time, which is finding your own lane. You don’t need to be first. You don’t need new things. You just need a point of view.
My hope is everyone feels more empowered to speak their mind and be themselves on their platforms. I know the audience is craving it now more than ever.
I got my popcorn 😅
I got my pho queue pho 🍜
riveting 🤤
That's why you're not invited to Japan, lol. I know you won't go easy on that camera.
I got my sushi.
@@strippedlist But his nerd approach to cameras is crucial to all professionals and amateurs. He's a unique camera enthusiast that adds so much to the table just like CineD.
Thanks for making this video, Gerald!
I have similar experience in the automotive sector, where some brands will simply ghost creators for not being enthusiastic enough about their product. On the other hand there are those, who see value in constructive criticism, and we see improvements from model to model or generation to generation. Kudos to those brands, though more often than not it's a matter of long time relationship with the person in charge of PR. They are not your friends, but knowing them for 20 years, as they move from brand to brand helps.
As for launch events, I think they are designed for print media, where a journalist on a salary could afford to spend a couple of days traveling to-and-fro an event (and loved every minute of it!), write a brief note of what was being presented, and awaited a review sample back home to do a full piece for their magazine in two months.
As freelancers we make money creating content, not watching presentations, which could have been an e-mail. I don't recall the last time I was surprised to learn something at an event that I haven't read in the press release. And I always ask for a press release prior to the event to prepare at least 80% of the script to film the review in the brief time we get with the product.
And the last time I learned something valuable from an engineer present at the launch event was probably 10 years ago. These days they are all prepped, and never go off script, so they will not tell the media anything beyond the scope of the press release related to this specific event.
So yes, similar experience, being first no longer carries much value, and products actually worth reviewing are few and far between. One could say we're jaded :)
I’m gonna be honest, I didn’t expect you to be able to hit this hard without sounding bitter. I’m sitting over here taking notes lol.
I don’t think this video could have been made any better. We need these kinds of videos in order to course correct, hopefully both from brands and creators. Good work and god speed homie.
What do you mean "without sounding bitter"? Have you watched the video?
This is a great video for all of us to hear. New creators and seasoned creators go through the same fears and you are right we should change the way we view ourselves and what we stand for in our category.
To be honest, I don't think camera manufacturers are interested in "reviews" from UA-camrs and influencers. What they are looking for is marketing. You get to make a video about a new product that gets you views and thus revenue. They get free-ish marketing for their product. That's how the influencer economy works. Thorough reviews are certainly an available genre, but I seriously doubt camera manufacturers are particularly interested in yours or anyone else's reviews. Not because they are evil, but because it likely doesn't mean as much to their R+D teams as you might think. Product design is based off of extensive market studies, not as much on individual feedback as we'd all like to think. They make a product they think will sell and make money, not necessarily the product they think ticks the most boxes for the most highly regarded reviewers.
EXACTLY. it’s really this simple.
100% agree ... unfortunately that's the sad truth.
They won't get it if they keep disrespecting the reviewers. What's a reviewer good for if the viewers think they are just a shill?
While there's a lot of truth in what you're saying about having free marketing, I think any company is interested in a UA-camr's review if it's not a good review and if that UA-camr has a significant audience. Look what happened recently with MKBHD and that AI pin that he panned. That review hit the company hard and you can't convince me they didn't care about that review. But you're right about the fact that they want the free marketing and they're going to cherry-pick who they give access to get the coverage they want. Apple did that for years with one writer that always had access. I think some UA-camrs should decided on whether they want to be PR folks or not. It's okay if they do. I like reading and watching about new products like anyone else. But there's plenty of room for the real reporters of the truth that bring true value to their audiences. It might not be as glamourous as getting chauffeured around in Tokyo or Stockholm by big brands, but if their audience is large enough, they'll definitely get the brand's attention.
Same as gear review websites before youtube was a thing, right? Unbiased review sites are those that have the scale to buy their own stuff and test it all independently. Consumer reports etc. (Not a good site for camera reviews btw, where the deep details matter).
Well at least Kai dedictaed a whole video to roasting their pancake lens.
His review of the s9 wasn't positive either 😂
Mad respect for that. That lens is a waste of plastic
Kai doesn't usually do embargos either. Even if he does, he lists it at a later time and not at 12 am Tokyo time.
i think he was the only one who said: I dont think anyone would buy it :) at some podcast
@@VoltLover00 Yep. At least they didn't waste too much glass
The most insane thing about this is that it just doesn't apply to cameras and gear, it applies to video games, movies, TV shows, apple products, etc. It's an entire aspect of tech/media/publicity that absolutely needs a systematic change from the ground up and this video is incredible, so thank you.
looks like UA-cam been had going deep down that rabbit hole. ...maybe now things will start to change for the better. Time will tell.
Right? Isn’t that exactly what a prescreening for a feature film is like? Hype up the film guys and sit them in a room with the director and main actors? Like who isn’t gonna get excited for that kind of experience?
Yep, snazzy labs has made similar videos about Apple not liking criticism either. It is the capitalist world we live in, one wrong word and your business could be in tatters, so they all do this horrendous nonsense Gerald mentions.
The one that touches on my interests is running shoes. I can only think of two major UA-camr who do shoe reviews who buy 100% of the shoes they review.
Gerald you are the man. Please never change. If our fellow creators can't take a bit of criticism then that's on them honestly. You go on a press event and become a marketing tool for a new product then you have to expect to be criticized for it. It's just a stupid camera anyways and they will do just fine moving on and / or hopefully use this moment to reflect and think about how they (we) have helped build this flawed system. Us creators can easily become disconnected with not only ourselves but also how the audience perceives us. That's why a commentary like this can be a helpful reality check. Who would have thought that "You"Tube works the best when you are true to yourself and not compromise to please corporations for a bit of vanity and monetary gain? Do sponsorships and brand deals if you need to (or want to), totally fine. But do not pretend you are not benefiting from the privileges you are receiving. Almost every S9 review had a sponsor in them so they got their paycheck. Just own it and grow some thick skin.
This is a great video, i just started making some camera content so it's good to know the behind the scenes stuff. This is exactly why i focus on long term reviews, i just always found it more useful when shopping around
This is a problem in tech too-though I've found disclosure problems to be even more rampant there.
the irony of the Panasonic thing is you historically featured so much content from them and absolutely sold me on the S5 😂
This is a really cool camera, I didn’t think that it would become my favorite when I bought it😄
The S5II X is hell of a camera, same specs (in some sorts more) than a A74 but with $500 less.
Same... And I still love my S5
You've echoed how I feel about these recent reviews for the S9. Well done for taking a stand on this.
The S9 is an awesome camera for $499
@@robmcd 😅😅🤣🤣🤣
Funny thing - it's $1900 in my country ...
2500 in mine @@JoATTech
@@robmcdI’ll draw my own conclusions after all the hype when I have it in my hands.
It started with Philip Bloom and not showing how bad the Canon 5Dmkii line skipping was. I decided to never listen to what he thinks again.
Gerald is totally on point here. Bravo!
The real sin here is that the brands are trying to get free advertising AND influence the content of that free advertising.
Gerald is right. This has got to end.
A sellout hobby UA-camr who was in Osaka here:
I was at both 2022 Tokyo Lumix event and 2024 Osaka event. Back when the S5 II was released, I was the only one to say that the A7 IV IBIS with active mode is actually better in some situations (that is no longer the case). There was a ton of videos showing how good is the S5 II IBIS at 24+ mm, but no videos revealing that there is warping at ultra-wide angles. I was accused of being Sony fanboy, paid by Sony etc. There was a lot of drama on rumor sites. Then I made a separate video showing side-by-side samples in many scenarios that couldn't be disputed.
Panasonic has called me to ask whether I have updated FW in the camera, I said that I have. Then they said that my testing is representative and everything is OK.
I got invited to London event for S5 II X and Osaka event for the S9. Nobody from Panasonic has never said anything bad about any of my criticism, including my video about leaving Panasonic's M43 system and S5 review where I said pretty bad things about the AF. I have never felt pressured by Panasonic, Fujifilm or Sony. Nikon would prefer I just read their press release, I am probably banned from reviewing Canon cameras.
Also worth mentioning is that the is a ton of pressure from the toxic part of photography community to criticize everything. I don't care about that either, if I think that a widely criticized camera, such as the S9 or even X100VI is actually good, I will just say it...
I guess that "being at an event shaming" makes being there as risky as not being there from the YT success perspective :)
Well said
Just a quick note - I do believe the discussion / drama / storm in a tea cup was about stabilisation in general, not just ultrawide. Feels like a decade ago though. I don't think anyone could've denied corner wobbling introduced by Panasonic's strong IBIS (something Sony is not burdened with). As you say Lumix got their act together and made their e-stabe actually useful.
There is no point in pointing fingers. First, we don't really know. Second, it doesn't matter. What is important is that for companies UA-cam "reviews" is an extension of their marketing campaign. And marketing is not about objectivity, it's about selling the product. As long as the companies are involved in that process that means "selling" is working.
@@AoyagiAichou The issue was there there was a lot of videos showing walking at 35+mm. I have no idea why. The wobbling wasn't visible in those videos at all. I have done the testing at 20mm, because that seemed more logical to me. Sony A7 IV performed better in that test with Active mode, due to the warping on the S5 II, but nobody believed me, because they have seen amazing performance at 35+mm.
@@ElementaryWatson-123 It is much more complicated than that. Objectivity and "selling the product" don't have to be contradicting elements. As I wrote, companies are far from being the only subject involved. There also your viewers, other companies, pressure to criticize everything and so...If you are just a part of marketing, you won't make it very far.
Behold: Geraldgate.
I'm here for it. Transparency makes everything and everyone better.
Northrups watch this video: "BREAKING NEWS...100mp SONY CURVED SENSOR COMING SOON"
Chris & Jordan watch this video: Make another 20min review about a nothing camera without actually saying anything: "This camera has a screen, it has a lens mount and fits batteries which is amazing and super useful for content creators on the go"
Jared Polin: benchmarks everything to the autofocus in sports cameras since he only knows how to shoot sports.
All basically useless.
Amazon customer reviews are much better which is a sad state of affairs.
Yeah, except this was all already completely transparent before the manchild threw a tantrum about not being invited for a free trip.
@@evrythingis1I disagree. I had no insight into how this went down until this video, and I watch a lot of camera content.
A bit hypocritical, though. It can be summarised like this, “UA-camrs shouldn’t go to these events. I got banned from an event, how dare they?!”.
@robiulahmed yeah the video came across as salty rather than genuine. Regardless, anyone who watches Camera Conspiracies knew this was all going on behind the scenes.
Interesting that they invited him though. Much more critical than gerald
Wow... I had actually just been talking about the current state of UA-cam and photographers and all that. I hadn't seen anyone else talking about it, assumed I was the only one, and just talked into the void about it for a bit. Now, seeing this, hearing your perspective from "that side" of the UA-cam space, and even just hearing the raw and real tone in your voice as you talk about this is unbelievably refreshing. Bravo.
Ironically, I had the same kind of conversation about UA-cam tech reviewers just a week ago. I think the G9 release may have revealed the problem for many people, who didn't notice it before.
UA-cam has become an embarrassment where gear “reviews” are concerned. I only learn from what the reviewers won’t talk about now rather than the exact same talking points as the other “reviewers”. I’m glad that light is being shone on this issue.
I feel like a lot of the distrust of gear reviews started around the time of the DJI Mic 2 release when almost every creator was telling us it how crispy clear it sounded, even when our ears were telling us otherwise. And then they had to make videos about "Oh, we forgot to turn off the low cut. Now it sounds great right? Almost as good as Rode? Maybe?" but our ears were telling us - no, it still sounds the same.
DJI is from that really trustworthy country we all trust right?
I've probably reviewed more products over my lifetime than most and I must say that this video is a long time coming. It seems the junket experience started with the automotive manufacturers (who used their clout with magazine ads to get positive reviews) and then tricked down to the consumer electronics industry in the 1990's. During my decade with the Today show, I didn't accept the free trips (as NBC paid my way) and other than the WSJ, others in attendance at the events were very much like what you described in your video. In this day and age, it seems there's more "influencers" than true reviewers and that has tarnished the credibility of online reviews. Keep up the good work!
This is psychology. They give you good conditions, they pay for your trip, they treat you well and therefore, as a content creator, it is more difficult for you to say negative things about the company. Unfortunately, many content creators fall into this trap. This is especially evident in the videos about the Panasonic S9.
That camera is garbage
A STRANGE but POWERFUL indictment of camera press trips.
I’m going to take a hammer to my GH5 amidst my disappointment at Lumix.
Nooooooooo. Not the camera that started your entire UA-cam career.
But buy a S5 MarkII or GH6 if you ever need a replacement.
It's Mr Affable himself!!!
Do u still rocking the Sony a1?
Can you just send it to me Chris. I broke mine at an event 😭
Don’t worry. The camera will be fine
Integrity is telling myself the truth. And honesty is telling the truth to other people. Thanks!
This was spot on. Thanks for sharing. These conversations are what need to be put out there. Playing the game has good rewards but also risks (and for me, it's super tiring...)
I went back to just doing my own thing and remembered how I started - with my own gear and my own thoughts
Real
This is one of the most helpful videos that I have ever watched, both from working with brands to understanding the implications of posting gear reviews. Really appreciate your work, mate.
Hell yes. More conversations like these
Hearing this fully “uncensored” feedback is refreshing!!! Thank you Gerald!!! We need more of this on UA-cam!
As a sneaker guy, this hits home. Literally just had conversations about this.
It’s fair to say every genre on this platform has companies who will take there ball and go home.
What do you snicker about? 😁
dude, this is a MUCH needed discussion. As you mentioned, it certainly extends beyond camera niche.
Man, it is refreshing to watch this. It's one of the reasons why I am VERY on the edge about accepting certain sponsors and brand sponsors. Also, 'being first' videos is seriously mentally tiring. As much as I want to, I tried it for 2-3 months and it was just draining. I couldn't do it but seriously, props to those people that are doing it.
Thanks for the great video man!
Watching all the S9 reviews was shocking to me, its way too positive for a camera that is only 200-300 dollars less than the S5 II but has at least 6 major features removed for like a 30% size reduction? Madness! To top it all off, it comes with a manual focus F8 lens, are you kidding! The price should of been way lower, and it should of bundled with that upcoming zoom lens, why would you get an S9 now and then buy that lens later it will end up costing more than the S5 II!!!!!!!
The manual focus lens f8 fixed aperture is the cherry on top - you can't go lower than that 😅
Should have.... it's 'have', not 'of'. How can people get this wrong so haveten?
The S9 was designed as a hype-train shakedown. With the rise of street photography and demands for a full frame X100 and XPro4 coming out the LUT features seriously awesome but LUMIX chose to launch it with a Camera with no intrinsic value. It’s manufactured e-waste.
@@adidabax6809 I’m not a LUMIX fanboy (I have used Lumix but mostly Canon and some DJI & Sony now), but I’ve noticed that LUMIX is always getting pooped on compared to the other big names - who remembers the GH5 autofocus gate? UA-camrs made it sound like the worst camera ever b/c they only hammered the AF. It was a really good camera. I don’t think the S9 is the most fantastic camera ever, but I can see the positives in it. It’s jumped into a market competing with Sony and Fuji now.
I’ve been following camera reviewers on YT for over a decade, back when everyone was on Canon switching to Sony and I see the back-to-back Sony, Fuji, DJI, Canon content flood my feed when the new thing launches and it’s almost always super positive barely negatives on those launch videos. It makes it easy to tell who is in whose pockets. But it is mostly LUMIX getting pooped on. They’re no better or worse.
All these UA-camrs’ videos are the reason for X100V and VI, DJI pocket 3 and every Sony (released in the last 10 years) to get over-hyped and sold out for months.
I get that being a serious UA-camr IS a job and they have to get paid somehow, and I get where Gerald is coming from, but seems unfair for a Sony guy to make this video after a LUMIX launch.
@@SA-rz6fjhaha 😄 I see what you did there.
The best kind of reviews are ones where the reviewer buys the camera, uses it, and sells it and gets an unrelated sponsor.
No early release. Only after the camera is officially launched.
Marcus Pix is a great example but he reviews much older gear with a specific target of light and inexpensive.
There is a balance, people ARE interested in the latest gear, but like you wrote interest in gear doesn’t end after the hyped release, at least not if it is a good product. People buying and actually using their own gear are a great source of information, especially if they have been using the gear over a more extended period of time. You’d be amazed how many products practically disappear from YT after the initial hyped release. Puts the hype in perspective. Good piece by Gerald, honest appraisal by a professional who has reached the point of having a successful personal brand.
@@TK421-53 That's key, developing a trustworthy no-hype reputation that gives real value in terms of purchase decisions vs. those who simply hype or are over enthusiastic in everything they see! Gerald is being courteous by calling them enthusiastic people who love gear... I'm more cynical about it. I think the best strategy, as I've seen over the past 15 years of UA-cam, is to wait until after the hype and only listen to a trustworthy reviewer at that point. Cheers!
Dude also doesn’t seem to need the money. That helps as well
Love Marcus - so positive.
Was it Gerald's best video, ever? Just him, a table, a sheet of talking points and a pen. Yeah, it was
Needed more bananas 🍌
I so wish there was a 10x like button that you could use once a month or something. I’d use it on this one.
No not at all. This is a terrible video...
It was just a another kind of video. Good, but not good to compare.
Isn't he sawing off the branch on which he is sitting?
Gerald just said: “MotherF*** the Big Three, it’s just Big Me. “ 😂😂😂
BUM😭
Yoooooo!!! 😂
IT'S UP! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
C'mon, Panasonic and Fuji are not even in top 3. And he praised Nikon and Sony which are 2 of the big 3. Where did he say 🖕 to big 3?
@@withoutpassid I think it's a reference to a song featuring Kendrick "Like that"
Thank you for doing this. It needs to be said. I'm in another industry that wrestles with the same concerns. Regarding press events - there's a way to do it responsibly. It's not a review, it's news. "Canon released the R1 today, here is what it looks like and the images it can create. Here is my analysis of where it may fit in the overall market, the cameras it competes with, and how its specs stack up. Here are some quotes from reps (not me) about what it can do and why it's a big deal." Without excitement in my voice, without any marketing language, not really saying much positive or negative about it. It's just info. I'm a newscaster, not a personality. And that's a line that's a struggle for some UA-camrs to walk. But it's freeing when you do.
Cal Newport wrote a book called "Be so good they can't ignore" you about what really matters in work life. He took the quote from Steve Martin on how to be successful in show business. The most important thing is being good. UA-cam often forget focusing on quality.
Was looking for this. A great next watch for those interested is Colin and Samir's interview with Tim Ferriss. Make a product (podcast) so good, you can demand things from advertisers to fit your ethics/business/style that no one else can... because advertising on their shows just isn't as good.
Wise words!
Thanks for the book recommendation. 🙏 I have a copy on the way to my son who is in college.
"They" don't care how good you are. They only care if they can make money off of you.
@@DanYosua "you can demand things from advertisers" -- LOL. It the other way around in this life, those who have the money make demands.
Man, thanks for this video. As I’m growing I kinda feel like this is the next step of natural progression as a UA-camr.
Get bigger, work more with brands, get early access to products, attend events etc - this is really eye opening and is making me reconsider my approach.
Tech UA-cam in general is in a weird place right now. People are buying fake views and subscribers all over the place, just so they can work with brands and charge money. Brands are happily paying for fake views too… it’s nuts.
Appreciate you as always!
Loved hearing your input bro!
Gonna see if i can chime in on this too.
110% on your comments at 19:11 regarding brands allowing creators to provide criticism of a product but keep supporting that creator. That builds true trust between the creator and the brand! It builds trust, respect, and loyalty to a brand or product as well. Gotta be able to take the criticisms just as well as the praises. 😉😉😉
Gerald I really value this video as I have myself felt pressure over the years creating the videos you’re talking about. We as a community need to do better for those who seek value in our word. I hope if we all start speaking up there will be more of an integral shift in the review community. Thank you for being so honest
The irony is that Panasonic should pay Gerald for this video as I now know more about the S9 than I care to from all the videos responding to this video.
It seems like your transition away from the teleprompter was a tangible landmark showing you were moving from Phase 2 into Phase 3 as a creator
I'm not sure this wasn't teleprompted. But I'm not judging. Some people are great at writing things down but not so much at talking to a camera for 20 minutes.
You might think it's easy, but just try it for yourself once.
He needs to go back to using one.
since when did he stop using one?
Really appreciate you for this, Gerald. As someone newly in this “phase 2” I’m glad you’re speaking up. Absolutely feel that pull to “be first” despite all my best performing (and most fun to make) videos being well after the gear is actually released. Taking this to heart and look forward to hanging out on your comfy couch at the next Sony event
I’ve felt some of this myself. Very interesting topic and glad you shed some light on it man. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Ironically, it was your review of the LUMIX S5ii that I liked the best and made me want to buy it more than any other! Excellent points made...Keep on keeping on.
Adhering to embargoes has been a thing I keep seeing more and more creators not caring about hitting anymore. They put out the video after it when they feel it’s ready. Rushing to hit the embargo only leads to rushing, stress, missing things, making mistakes, and burn out.
It’s not worth it.
Man I have never heard such articulate, accurate and impactful words from a tech content creator! Don't remember me watching a 20+ video completely in one go in last many months! Amazing Gerald! Absolutely amazing!
I think where the waters get really muddy is mixing actual reviewers (You, Gordon Laing, Petapixel) with camera dweebs like me. "Ooooo, new camera, let me play!!" I am not a review channel by any stretch, but instead enjoy sharing my unbiased experience after some real-world usage. I think some non-reviewers come off as genuine while others perhaps...let's say, feel the pressure to "be so excited" about the camera.
Well said. That’s why I watched your videos and videos from the guys you mentioned.
It definitely creates some confusion for the audience when they tune into a new channel and the video isn't the "review" that they expected.
Your channel was the reason I bought an XT20 & XT30 because you actually used those cameras for personal use…..
Omar, you are one of the YT’s I trust the most. For many reasons, but one is you STILL praise the strengths of older gear. Anyone who uses both newer gear and older gear knows this to be true. I love my Xpro2 more than my X100VI. 😉
I dissent.
Thanks for going public on this. If nothing else, it will increase my skepticism about pre-launch "reviews" of products from Panasonic. Not because those making them are necessarily corrupt, but because the whole process of pre-selecting one's reviewers definitely is.
Unrelated to this, but thank you for this format. I have been thinking about if I want to take the approach of having my notes on screen to help make filming easier and I have been hesitating on it. This gave me more of a push.
I quite love what you have to say about Sony and about respect for brands.. Immunity to risk is not something any reviewer can guarantee, and I would rebound that to cinema reviewers as well. Dishonest product reviews has led us to a worsening world. Thanks, Gerald, for having integrity.
This isn’t just for camera reviews. It applies to a lot of items. Cameras are a niche category vs other sectors where creators are paid to even unbox
Very common practice in the car industry. Also not something new, as its been this way even in the print era.
Cellphones are the worst.
I'm SO glad you're talking about this. I'm really disappointed with the state of UA-cam camera reviewers. I've watched as nearly every UA-camr has become a shill for nearly every camera related product.
I had an "aha" moment a few years ago when the Canon R5 came out and one of the biggest / my favorite UA-camr shilled it. He said it was a photo+video powerhouse. When it later came out that it was overheating and not good for video, I realized I can't trust anyone on UA-cam anymore. Well, only a few can be trusted, like you.
But the Canon R5 is a photo and video powerhouse. Wolfcrow made a feature film with it. I can’t remember who did the video on the R5 but it was something like “awesome camera; awful marketing” because it was… Canon pushed it as an 8K weapon when it wasn’t. It was a fringe feature that had serious limitations.
@@robmcd it was Gerald who made that video
@@jordanshipley448 lololololol
And you should call out those creators with their names so that there are consequences
@@robmcd When it came out, the R5 could barely shoot video before overheating for HOURS.
Props to making this video. Was never interested in being a camera reviewer but if I had I know that “playing the game” would always be at the forefront of my mind. And I never liked that aspect.
As an upcoming UA-camr (and long time subscriber) this has been on my mind too. Some channels do the tech reviews for cameras, others do the how-to and others work in the real world use. There are some things that need to be covered off to appease the hand that feeds BUT integrity comes FIRST. We learn, grow and adapt and our sponsors should do this too - thanks for sharing your journey, life and passion making the world a better place
I'm glad you made a video about this. Hopefully this opens up a broader conversation in the community about "reviews". If you ask me, we should do away with the word altogether, but thats a topic for another day. :)
Gerald is getting done alright
fwiw here, they mentioned to Matt Johnson and I that the main reason we got the invite was because we didn’t get an invite to the first one, despite them knowing the camera wouldn’t be ideal for our audiences. There were some people that they wanted to cycle through and I’m assuming are planning on inviting others to future launches that better suit those audiences
Good info for people to know
Understandably... a company will invite creators who fit the demographic or audience profile of their camera so that they get the greatest ROI. There are photo cameras, there are video cameras, cinema cameras, and now (if you can believe it) even cameras for tiktokers. As a photographer, I wouldn't expect to get invited to a launch for a cinema camera. Needless to say, I'm glad you and Matt came and that I got to spend time with you ! :)
I couldn't agree with this more 8:45
I almost feel like nowadays theres a detriment to being first in a review wave unless your video somehow also provided the most value (while being pumped out as quick as possible)
Ok, the only point I’d add here is that some of the reviews are very entertaining. Kai and Lok, Jordan and Chris, etc: their videos are often very entertaining as much as they might be informative. If I want the bare, deep, truth I’ll watch you or Richard Wong and others. Most of the time I will watch Kasey first to see what the heck the Board was thinking!
Thank you for this....couldn't agree more!
This is exactly what is happening on UA-cam and guys/girls like Gerald will figure out there is another more lucrative market emerging, the one six months from launches where the reviewer buys the product and gives us a review after having used the product sufficiently. THESE are the videos I now seek and I completely ignore launch shill videos of all products. Two different markets of viewers, two different types of creators, and creators can’t play in both markets because the audience in market number 2 will lose all respect and avoid you if you create for market number 1. I think Gerald is ahead of the game and finding a new business model among creators.
There are lot of creators who play in both markets its really not uncommon to produce one first impression video and put out a full review later.
I love this brutal honesty, and it’s why I trust Gerald’s reviews and opinion pieces.
Regarding the feedback loop between creators and brands, I would say my biggest pet peeve has been companies making design decisions based primarily on criticisms from UA-camrs. An example is the tilt vs fully articulating screen. As someone who primarily does photography and only occasionally shoots a little video, I would prefer a tilt screen always. But I’ve seen YT reviewers complain about an otherwise great camera because it doesn’t have a fully articulating screen - a specific need for a video creator. I think this creates an outsized megaphone for the preferences of people making videos. I love my Nikon Zf - it might be my favorite vintage style camera ever, but the fully articulated screen drives me batshit crazy when trying to shoot low angles. I can get the shot faster with one of my Fuji cameras because I’m not futzing with the screen. The Zf is clearly meant to be photo-centric - the manual control dials are a pain for video, and it’s a replacement for the Df, a photo-centric DSLR. So why did Nikon go with a video-centric screen design over the tilt of the Z6/7? I think it’s because of YT reviewers having an outsized voice at the table. I think this is another side effect of what is a not great system for reviewing gear.
What killed me was that after watching vids for years, I finally bought a real camera. It was a Sony a7S II. First day, I got the error about sensor misalignment. I google the error, and it turns out that this is a known issue. The solution is to smack the camera body. What in the actual f? I had watched dozens, or hundreds of videos about cameras. Sony was very heavy in the rotation. How had no one ever mentioned that this recall-worthy issue existed?
That's why the lag time is sooo important. Marques Brownlee has talked about adhering to the timeline of the embargo is extremely difficult to produce a good review of something and when there's sample size significant enough to warrant a known issue isn't one of the ones he got in testing and makes reviewsblook dishonest.
If you look around on most big name products it's a bunch of reviews when it first came out and if the viewers got one of the good ones they might have not have even experienced the issue.
I owned one from day 1 and never had that for years even when i sold it a year ago
lol, Sony makes good cameras, but they dont have the best quality control. I used several FX6s and a FX9, and the control dial on all of them has minor encoder issues, when you try to scrow down in the menu, it sometimes it scrow up or randomly up and down a few times.
I've been an Apple cert'd master trainer for their pro apps, back in the legacy Final Cut Pro days. I produced training videos, related product updates, reviews on FCPX updates, etc. But once I began questioning the incompleteness of FCPX after a about two years, I got cut off from being a beta testers for Apple, my inside contact with Apple who I was friends with for years just up and stopped responding to me and vanished. It all stopped. I've also noticed Apple is ver seriously doing some heavy censoring of the posts in their FCPX user forum. It's just corporate greed refusing to face truthful facts. This has been American corporate culture my entire life. Glad you did this video. I could be any influencer talking about the corporations in any industry, it all rings sadly true. Thank you for being honest. I'll be subscribing to you now, because of HONESTY (hint, hint, corporations).
Hey Gerald, I was heavily into the camera scene for a while and even did a livestream for FujiFilm here in South Africa. I became quckly jaded when I switched to Lumix and Balckmagic and you could swear I had left a cult. Apart from that, as a fan of yourself and other camera people, I loved watching the vlogs of the trips, I love seeing you and other guys talking nonesense. I have NEVER taken "reviews" from events seriously. And honestly I stopped watching alot of my favourite camera guys who just blatantly didn't disclose paid promotions, or that they were at a press event. You and a few others still get my viewership because you've been so honest. I know it damages your growth but it gives you solid longevity. BTW loved watching a Gerald video again 🙂
this is how it is. UA-cam is supposed to be a voice by the people, for the people. If I want to watch ads I'll find ads to watch.
People making content have to make money, it's work to make good (keyword) content.
Therefore I can't speak against ads, I even let ada play fully on content I like.
I read too many people who don't want ads but then they don't want to pay to subscribe for good content they like either, but somehow expect the creators to put time, money and effort into good content and magically make a living lol
I’m a happy GH5 and S5ii X owner and given the generally high quality of the cameras, it surprising that the LUMIX marketing folks are so insecure. The engineers at LUMIX are doing a great job, the bean counters are allowing great features to be included without the horrible market segmentation of companies like Sony. So why are the marketing folks not confident in the products standing on their own? As they refine PDAF they are going to directly compete with Sony and Canon on features. Corporate needs to clean house and bring in people who convey confidence in the brand by accepting and welcoming earnest, complete reviews.
They aren’t insecure, they are just milking the sellout creators for all they have.
See the s9 reviews they are mostly terribly negative and biased against lumix. I dont know why because the product is great
The Panasonic people may have been insecure, because the product itself wasn't as compelling (as other Pani products). It seems to target a very specific niche.
Strap in everyone.
I don’t do tech content but I do create gaming content where certain massive updates are behind embargo.
While it may be that camera based content is not time sensitive it sadly isn’t the case for the gaming industry and companies such as riot games have a massive grip on the creators in the industry. Literally my colleagues are so scared shitless of criticizing the company for their decisions in fear of being “replaced” as you said.
I love the transparency and hold massive respect for you and creators alike speaking up on dishonest practices. Let’s get undone!
I had to pause to go get a cold beer for this one. Thanks for telling it straight up as anyone not in the space knows it goes on. Your ratings will always be higher from your audience if you are balanced and honest.
Gerald, what's funny is that your S5 review is the reason I got the S5, and yes i knew the autofocus was bad, but after I saw all the other aspects of the camera I pulled the trigger. It's funny that they think your title would deter people from buying it. But if you look at all the S9 titles, you will get why, they are all touting it as the holy grail of street cameras, and really, it's not. The simple fact that it has no EVF just takes it out of the competition.
I won’t touch a LUMIX after watching this video and seeing the S9 reviews. I’ve been waiting for a budget SL3 but they can go and get Firetrucked
I bought my S5 after watching his video too. I got out of sony because of that.
Holy grail of street camera!? That's the funniest thing I've heard this week. Probably that title will be gone when something like x-e5 comes out, pair it with xf18f2 and you'll get around 27mm f2.8, much better than the s9 pancake pairing
I got my S5 ii after watched Geralds review, i'm super happy :)
Good point, his review was the reason I even looked at LUMIX after I was having issues with Canon.
Gerald just went full undone. Well spoken and really insightful!
this is a fantadstic video. I review hunting gear and struggle with a lot of these issues in my industry as well. I really appreciate you taking the time to do this Gerald.
As people invited to the S5II launch I can echo what Gerald is saying. The value of the trips and cameras are very limited. Way less than just shooting another wedding or commercial gig. It def feels great to get that invite and bad to be excluded or accused of shilling. I think the biggest issue is that in reality the singularity that is at the center of the camera industry (all theses cameras are good and have simple features) is making the content we all make boring and redundant. Anyway… appreciate the vid Gerald!
Camera company should never anger Gerald, I think most people watch Gerald's video for it's authenticity, actually test of the camera.
Gerald is the MKBHD of the camera world😂
On the contrary, the products speak for themselves. Even if they don't invite him to all the exclusive stuff, he'll eventually get his hands on the hardware and put out an honest review.
The smart companies will roll with the punches and keep inviting him. Not every release is a home run that rocks the industry.
Watching this reminded me of the guys at Top Gear back in the day when they would do a bad review. The more things change the more they stay the same.
@@nothajzl Naa Gerald is way more technical.
@@nothajzl no, he is the Ian Cutress of camera sensor!
The S9 announcement was one of the strangest announcement rollouts I've seen, with so many creators (both big and relatively unknown) dropping videos for such an out-of-nowhere, mediocre camera. It's like they knew it was a bad camera with no potential market and tried to cover it up with hype, which is why the disconnect between influencers and regular customers became so apparent.
3 month ownership reviews are the only reviews I watch 😮