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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- I know that not everyone feels that they need something like an SPR, but there's something to be said about having something setup to make sure that you can touch anything between 0 and 600 meters. This makes it too easy.
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Quite a handsome build
I learned it by watching you
@OreGear get a room u guys
This comment has a certain gay feel to it.
Has no one seen the anti drug PSAs of the 90s?
We just need James Reeves from TFBTV to come in with extremely tight shorts.
I love that he doesn't edit the video every 3 seconds. Long form talk like a podcast.
Channel "Mountains, Mullets, Merica". Has a great long range shooting channel, he does first and second zero's, he hits 1000 yards with his 11.5" and 16" with 77gr. , test sub and sonic in 300BLK zero and range distance. Test 308 , 762 .
Nice, I like the setup. The only thing I would really reccomend ditching is the YHM mounts and adapters. You can get something shorter, lighter, with better repeatability like Rearden or similar.
Was just thinking the same thing.
Building something similar using a Burris fullfield 2.5-10 with the E3 reticle. Ballistics calculator says the reticle should get me pretty close to hash marks on 1, 2, 3 and 4. I also have a 407k laying around haven’t decided if I’ll throw it on there or not. Excited to get some data and play around with it
YHM is stuck in 2005. So many better options
Agreed. My YHM mount rusted up quick. I changed it out for a keymo mount
Love SPR builds. I went with mostly BA Products. Their OPS12 SS 18” 223 Wylde barrel is extremely accurate. Hitting the range again tomorrow. Precision class next month.
1:8. It’s extremely accurate with 77gr. I haven’t tried any other weight yet. Leaving in 30min to hit range. Had to pull scope and rail off so I’m going sight it in again. Bringing some other weights to test. Also bringing my 14.5” BCM MK2. Just put a PA GLX 1-10 LPVO on top. Hopefully it’s worth double the price of their SLX lineup.
Range trip went great. Colorado weather was perfect. I sighted in my 18” SPR and my 14.5” BCM MK2. Using PSA AAC 77gr for the SPR and 69gr for the 14.5”. BA barrel is sub MOA without even trying. I got the BCM barrel down to 1.30” MOA on a 5 shot group.
I have ba 18 in spr fluted and it shoots ok, I also have their 16 ops but I haven't shot that one yet
@@rc-pm1fe they have a 1 MOA guarantee in those barrels with match ammo. Is it worth sending back? If it’s a precision rifle then sub MOA is a necessary. Or what about sending a bore scope down it to see if there are any rifling issues.
@@scott2228 I don't own a bore scope. I have a pa Glx 4x16 on it and at best with imi 77 grain shoots 1.5. I have a few other barrels that should 1 moa. So I'm pretty sure it's not me but the barrel. But I am ok with 1.5 it opens up to 1.75 with other ammo. I'm thinking of taking that build using the same barrel and changing it out to a civilian lmg rpk sort of build
My 18” KP-15 build is basically the budget version of what you’ve got. I love it!
Congratulations on a very smart build.
Running 16” KAK rifle length spr build. Very accurate with 75 grain. 🇺🇸 hits out to 600 are very easy.
There is a tool for every job.
Awesome info, all the details we need and without too much extra fluff
I have a 18” AR built very similar to that one for a very similar purpose. I just always seem to be short on 75 grain. I’m gonna start doing the 1-2 boxes a paycheck, fantastic idea. 👍🏻
You’d be amazed how fast it adds up
Time to get into reloading.
Not when you you and your 3 kids and wife shoot every weekend....! I'm so thankful that they are into shooting as I am... but WOW we picked an expensive hobby for family time but the competitive drive keeps us all pushing each other!
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I love that paint job dude! 🤩
Great video 💪💪
Swedish greetings!
LEP is so underated in the light world. Thats fine, more for the rest of us.
My favourite rifle is a 6mm ARC that's built around a 16" barrel.
Regarding bipods, I find that when you need one, you need one, but they are a serious pain in the ass when you don't. I have a Valhalla, and it has a little male-end adapter on the handguard. When I need a bipod, I take it off my pack and slip it on, quick and quiet. When I don't, because it's getting hung up on everything as I walk with it slung, or I don't want so much weight out front because I'm shooting offhand, it's stuck in the water bottle pouch on the side of my pack.
That's a pretty hot-looking build, though. Nicely done.
Good video man. I like the choices.
KE arms needs to offer a stock/lower with a K2 style grip. That old school angle grip is a deal breaker for me… and many others.
That is a big reason why I won’t pick one up.
For civil unrest you need a short barrel, 14.5in medium profile barrel like the M4s the military uses so you can negotiate corners. The optic for close quarters up to 100 yards should be a red dot, holographic sight or illuminated LPVO 1x8 for medium range. Your reticle is a chevron not horse shoe. A Precision rifle should have 24 inches for higher round speed and heavy barrel for repeatability so the barrel does not open the shots after 5 shots, but is not something you want to lumber around.
My 18" heavy fluted faxon match .223 wylde is the shiznit. 1/2 MOA. Geissele 2 stage trigger. Aero Upper and Lower. Q Whistle Tip. Rifle length gas. Super smooth shooting!! Athlon Btr Gen2 2-12x42 on top.
Looks really good. I am a big fan of that scope myself. I have 3 of the PA offerings and am pleased with them all but that is certainly my favorite.
It’s my favorite scope in this magnification range
With all that exposed barrel up front I’d strongly recommend the Otter Creek OCM5 with their OTB mount. Amazing suppressor. Extremely quiet for 556.
I hear you on sticking ammo every pay check… crazy expensive prices
Saw Z Bolt and subscribed. LEP instead of LED lights are slept on.....
i plan to use that Scope for my DMR build. Glad its enough magnification. was also thinking about getting the 3-18x but though it may be too much
I just mounted a GLX 1-10 LPVO to my 14.5”. Interested to know what’s gained/lost choosing it vs 2.5-10. Still might get the 2.5-10 for a 16”.
Nice build. The BA Hanson barrel is the BEST. I also like that scope.
Very nice. Well done. Subscribed, bell rung, commented, upvoted, liked, shared ... may the algorithm gods smile favorably upon your channel.
I appreciate it
@@OreGear don't mention it. My pleasure. Hope it helps.
Good looking build, and run down on how you might use it. Will have to check out that white light.
Very neat! Finishing up an SPR set up right now, but it’s going to have a 16” barrel
Nice looking piece. Looking into doing an SPR myself, so I am here looking for ideas.
I have an 18" 556 build that was put together with minimum possible weight that I think would serve as an excellent foundation.
I have a couple of PA ACSS scopes in different power/sizes as well as a couple of HS ACSS dot type optics.
Thinking of going with a heavier PRS-type shoulder device. I have them on 6.5 and 308 rifles. Seems someone makes a lighter version, but I haven't looked into that yet.
Enjoyable presentation. I'll definitely save it to refer back to.
Cheers!
I love it.
Very similar to my aero precision build. 18" fluted ss barrel, 223 wylde and a vortex eagle scope.
Your build is awesome, im definitely going to do my next build with inspiration from yours.
Im from upper WI and your location looks similar, looks nice out there.
subbd my dude.
WOW, another great rifle video. You hit all the important points about a scope, good research on your part. Must agree with you on the reticle and its' purpose. Glad you brought up the weight factor: ounces add up to pounds: I highly like this series, but growing older am having to make adjustments that i can manage better. It's going to rain, here in Texas, so heading to the range for target practice in wet weather. Happy St. Patrick's Day. !!!!!!
I do the same thing with the ammo. I prefer the Hornady 73gn eld I just order a couple boxes a week and grab a box or two every time I see it in stores. And I’ve been buying 200rds of the aac 75gn from psa once or twice a month when in stock. It doesn’t shoot as good but it’s decent especially for $.55-.60 a round
Very nice setup. I have a DDM4V7 pro with that optic and a piggy back red dot. I love the setup. My range is only to 600 yards but I can make hits fairly easy using AAC 77 grain smk. Love the videos keep em coming!
I am waiting to get a surefire muzzle device to run my RC2 on it. The one I want is out of stock currently.
Looks like you need to rattlecan a sponge and dab your wml and you can help the camo by sponge patting with a rattlecan and rough sponge or even balled up newspaper to create splotches and break up the hard lines a little bit. Otherwise, it looks like a solid build and I dig the paint job. If you're happy with the pattern, great. In south Florida I'd break up the lines but to each their own.
Thanks again for the video
3:25
My Zastava M91 Hates this Bipod.
So glad I didn't bring this Bipod to
T. Ranch
Armageddon bag for the win!
Me building another rifle: “Dammit Ryan…”
You’re welcome
If your gonna get a KP lower get a well ported/gassed barrel. Got a faxon pencil and there was so much extra gas leakage even with a bootleg bcg my eyes were just watering.
What about something from BA?
@@Crusader1097 I got a criterion and that was not over gassed. It honestly would be best to have someone with measuring calipers look at the barrel. Off the assembly line sometimes you get a good one sometimes it's way over bored.
62 grain ALCO .224 diameter projectile has a ballistic coefficient of 0.45, and can achieve 3,000 fps from that barrel.
Same length as an M855A1 projectile.
Decelerates to mach one at 1,140ish yards if I remember correctly.
Better effective range than M118LR.
I have the exact same color pattern on my ak, very simple but effective/cool.
Love the thought process. I’m building something similar, but like you said… what’s your AO? I’m basically in a forest.
Why would someone want an SPR? To me this is a silly question. I think an SPR should nearly EVERYONES first AR 15!!!
From a SHTF standpoint: You will NOT be clearing rooms like a Navy SEAL or in Call of Duty...you will want to keep people FAR away from family, home, food and ammo.
If later you want to get a 13.9 or 10.5" fine, have a ball. But I think an SPR should be your first rifle. No question
*Optic:* The Primary Arms GLX 2-10 and 3-18, Athlon Helos, Vortex Strike Eagle and a few others seem to be the popular scopes for SPR's but I think the Vortex Razor LHT 4-22x weighing only 21oz is criminally underrated in this genre. You will likely run an offset or piggy back red dot so having 4-22x rather than 12x, 16x or 18x is HUGE!! Give it a look. I am not Vortex lover but their razor line is legit!!
Great content Brother. Keep it up.
Nice job! Oh, also, cool hat and cool range:).
We need to get out there at the same time at some point.
Sweet Rifle man!
6mm arc would a nice set up,, throw on a complete upper with an 18 inch and barrel and your ready to roll…in fact Hornady says the 18 inch barrel is the optimal performance.. and look on the bright side you can use the BCG for 6.5 Grendel as well….
I have a very similar setup, with the exception that I've mounted a Vortex Strike Eagle 3-18x w/Holosun 509T @ 45 degrees. A little bulkier, but not bad...and more XXXs out at 600 for smaller targets. And the 509T is surprisingly easy to hit with on anything out to 100 or so for me...for others, much further, I'm sure:)
I plan on switching to a 509 after Midwest comes out with a scope ring mount
@@OreGear I went with the Arisaka Defense pic rail mount.
That paint job, forget about it 🤌🏽
Please Jesus we need suppressors to be legal without federal regulation.
Amen brother, amen
Come to Texas everyone else is.
Totally, but just take the dive. It is wasted more than you would think and the worst part is the year weight which is now sometimes only a few days. Just go for it.
@@galamonkey I’ll do it … but I won’t like it … 😂
I just paid the extortion fee for my first can..😢
I also prefer the primary arms acss scopes for my dmr’s. But I got rid of my 18” 5.56 and 18” 6.5 Grendel dmr and just went with a 16” 5.56 with a lpvo and a 16” 6.5 Grendel with the 4-14x primary arms hud dmr reticle as my dmr. I loved the thought of an 18” or maybe even a 20” 5.56 dmr until I built one and realized yea it’ll get out there to 600-650yds and even farther really but if there is any kind of wind you better be well practiced if you plan on hitting your target. Which I can do on a flat range but still at those distances the 223/5.56 is hitting like a 22 magnum essentially. I found the 6.5 Grendel to do much better and with 90-123gn bullets it hits much harder. I mostly run 105gn sgk and 107gn smk. I started with an 18” but found there really isn’t much loss dropping to a 16”. I feel a 16” Grendel is easily a 600-700yd rifle and I usually keep the 5.56 work under 400yds is why I went with an lpvo on it. Just gotta bite the bullet and stock up on 6.5 Grendel ammo is really the only negative I see. I’ve been shooting the Grendel for almost a decade now so I have plenty of ammo stocked up plus tons of reloading components. But definitely if I wasn’t able to go with a 6.5 Grendel for a dmr/spr it would be an 18-20” 5.56 with 75/77 grain ammo. Or the 73gn eld is actually my preferred longer range 5.56 bullet of choice
Sidewinder Concepts has great classes
Nice build, man! Going on 3 DMR/SPR builds now myself, all of which have their ammo preferences (unfortunately lol....). Currently testing a Lead & Steel JAG SPR.
Zach w/ Monsoon Tactical
2:36 omg i almost had a heart attack
Looks almost exactly like my DMR “MOCK12” with 18 inch criterion barrel, same scope, off set RDS @12 o’clock tho, YHM suppressor (will change to the SRX mount system). I have an AERO precision lower tho 😅 with a larue MDT budget trigger cuz I’m poor 😂
Great content! Thanks.
Im getting the ruger sfar in 6.5 for a spr
You should try that baby at 1000y. Can definitely be done! I shoot 8/10 avg at 1000y. I have a caldwell flashbang to light the target up. Best to try on a day with no wind 😂
What ammo are you using. The transonic barrier usually makes ammo inconsistent at best past 600-700m. Hits can be made, but not 8/10.
@@OreGear I know it seems hard to believe. I have no incentive to lie. To be the most consistent, I use black hills Mk262. I use an 18" DD MK12 with a surefire RC2 suppressor. I use the applied ballistics app and a NF ATACR 4-16 with the Tremor 3 reticle. Depending on temperature, I have to dial 14-14.6 mils to hit a full size IPSC steel at 1000y. I don't think the round would kill anything that far tho lol.
To be fair, when I shoot m193, I can only hit 20% of the time lol. M855 might be slightly better. I agree that past 600, the round is likely ineffective.
Keep in mind dudes are still shooting 1000m at Camp Perry with 5.56 guns with iron sights. The target is fairly big, but it's doable.
I've also used handloads trying to mimic the Mk262 with smk or tmk bullets but they are only about 40%. I probably suck at reloading.
@@OreGear my applied ballistics app says that my particular configuration goes transonic at ~900 yards. I think that's right because I can be very consistent at 700 with little to no wind.
@@OreGear I'm not trying to brag...I just know when you hit at 1000y for the first time you'll never forget it. So try it! Looks like a great gun and you are a great shooter.
I was a little shocked because you ended up building something very similar to what I did like a year ago... 16" FN barrel w/DD MFR rail, 45° canted HS507 and Midwest Industries QD mount w/Vortex 6-25x50 and canted light on the opposing side.
I noticed you removed the red dot at some points. Where you having issues with it? The issue I ran into was spent casing being ejected at the glass. I got a polymer killflash cap from OneHundredConcepts and a cage so the rifle could be laid down on that side (or dropped) and protect the red dot.
Match conditioned AR’s have been capable out to 1000 yards with as issued BDC iron sights since about 1995 as proven in NRA Long Range Competition, Service Rifle Division. This is prone sling supported competition. All that’s needed is a rifle fitted with a float tube, match grade barrel, and a hi-speed 2 stage trigger. Then attend Small Arms Firing School for some training to get you credentials to enter NRA LR events.
True Life: My SPR Wants to be a GPR, I want a DMR
Maybe try a .224 Valk, 6.8spc or a .308 in this same set up
im really going back and forth on barrel length. 16, 18 or 20. I know the pros and cons of each, leaning 16 or 20, feel like 18 is stuck in the middle, and when i consider 16 or 20, the 20 inch starts to feel quite a bit longer than i want.. and a 16" precision oriented barrel would likely do 99% of what id need.
I agree that 16” will do most of what this will do. I’ve shot at 600m with my 13.9” as well. It just doesn’t have as much energy at the target. But that’s my general purpose rifle.
I've got an 18" and my buddy as a 16", both in 5.56. The difference in our DOPE is negligible. We've both shot them past 1100 yards with good results. The rifle length gas is nice on the 18", but if you're gonna run a can the 16" is nice to keep the length down. More important than length though is getting a good quality barrel. I'd much rather have an accurate 12.5" barrel than a 20" barrel with poor accuracy, regardless of the range I'm shooting. It doesn't matter what the bullet is doing at the target if you can't hit it.
The magpul bipod is actually not that light, my atlas is within an ounce or two if I recall correctly.
Super sweet build! What jacket are you wearing at 10:30?
That is a Gorka jacket from Grey Shop
New sub. How is it, this is the first time seeing your channel? Oh yeah, YT hates gun channels and throttles them.😏
What part of oregon are you in? I just ordered this optic for a 14.5 pin and weld build I’ve been working on and would love to pick your brain.
Seriously considering a kp15 for an spr build. Any concerns about running the carbine spring with a rifle gas system?
As long as you have the proper buffer weight, you’ll be fine.
So I have a 1 x10 primary arms ACSS 34 inch tube . why would I not use that or what is the advantage of your two by ten as opposed to my one by ten?
The 1-10 is SFP making ranging at intermediate distances more challenging without limiting your field of view. The reticle is also more robust on the Griffin Mil.
Where is that range ? Is it open to the public ?
This is a private range unfortunately.
When is Hop and you gonna do a campout trip and collab and review your setups and gear?
Not sure. We both live in the PNW, but I haven’t met him.
ITS MA’AM 😂
How does the Athlon btr gen2 2-12x42 compare to the Primary Arms one you have?
I may have missed it but what is the offset dot mount? My one complaint with the MI QD mounts is the levers being on the right side. Limits options for offset sights, I assume if you had the scope mount back one slot, the offset mount wouldn’t work. Really wish MI would just put the levers on the left side and I’d swap the majority of my mounts to them.
This is a Sig brand universal offset mount
Pure hotness
Have 20" with same optic, vortex qd cantilever. How about micro dot on h12 Holosun he509t? What's your?
Do you have any experience with the MDT oryx bipod? It seems very similar to the Magpul, and MDT has a good reputation for distance shooting equipment.
I do not. Looks interesting though.
The simple paint looks best.
Can you mount a top dot on this LPVO mount?
Not currently. They are working on an adapter though.
Did you paint your suppressor? If so, what paint did you use? I couldn’t find anything in your other videos about how you did this.
I used some hi temp bbq paint, but it’s not holding up well
Only thing i could see working is VHT high temp exhaust header paint but idk if they have it in good camo colors. Best bet on cans is a cerakote or an anodization if you want it to last any amount of time
@@Grooove_e Thanks for the advice
How’s is HOSS UMC DOING
When you said you had to much scope on it, what were you running beforehand?
I was running a 4-14x
I’m running a 3 x 18 on my mk 12. Some people say it’s too much scope, but I tend to like it. Beautiful build you have there Sir
Nice
I'm thumbs up number 556 lol.
It’s a sign
what software do you to edit your videos ?
Adobe premiere
Did you spray paint your can?
I did. I used hi temp bbq paint. It’s not holding up great
What caliber is it?
Who did you take the class from?
Sidewinder Concepts
I have a burris signature HD 3-15x optic, any thoughts on if that would serve an SPR well?
You can make it work but its not going to be as practical as something with a FFP mil reticle. You can get the Burris XTRII 3-15x, for not much more than what your signature is. Athlon has some decent options at reasonable price points as well if your looking to test the waters on the long range stuff without coughing up $2k + for a scope.
@@matthewminch5894 great response. I think I will just “make it work” for now but if/when I start working with a team and I need to communicate with them more effectively then I’ll probably switch to the mil scope.
@@lordvader5246 You can def use it for now, but for a SPR setup (competition use, longer engagement first round impacts) a FFP reticle is pretty critical. Being able to precisely dial or hold over for different engagement distances across your entire magnification range is critical for shooting small targets accurately at distance. The BDC reticles get you close 400 yards and in but dont offer much past that distance. If you are looking for something that just looks cool and want to go plink around then what you have is fine. If you want to get into the world of true precision shooting then I would sell that scope and get into a FFP now and start training with it. I have a cheap Athlon 4x14x FFP scope on my SPR rifle, its not the best but i paid under $300 for it and its adequate out to 800 yards which for a 556 gun is about the limit of practicality. There are tons of videos on ballistics out there and how that all works. Beware its addicting and gets expensive quick though.
@matthewminch5894 do you pair your optic with anything like a range finder in order to get more accurate inputs for the shooting equation? Also, do you dial or do you just use the mildots and hold?
@@lordvader5246 Yes and no for both. If time permits a range finder is a great tool and will be the most accurate. With precision shooting the more variation you can eliminate the better. You can also learn how to estimate range using the reticle (hence my recommendation for a FFP optic in MIls or MOA. If its a FFP either will work you just need to learn the calculations. Knowing the exact range for multiple targets is useful and you can build a dope card and just use the holds if your under time pressure. For targets past 500 yards or so I will typically dial and for targets 500 and in I typically hold because the drops are pretty consistent with my rifle from 100-500 yards. every gun and cartridge is different. Dialing is nice because you can just hold dead center and hold off for wind (or you can dial that too if you want). Wind changes a lot so i typically just hold left or right based on the wind call. Multiple targets under time constraint usually ill just use the holds.
Bog is the Anderson of tripods, you should sell that and get a decent tripod
If you’re shooting 700 meters, why would you limit yourself to a 5.56/.223? Even if you are using 77gr sierra’s, why not just bump up to a more capable .308 and extend your range/performance? Yes they are heavier, and you get to carry less rounds, but if you’re building a “precision” designated marksman type rifle, don’t you want to actually be able to reach out farther than the guy next to you with a standard m4?
Did you even listen to what he said? He addresses that very thing at the beginning of the video.
I don't know why everyone thinks ballistic disadvantage barrels are so good, maybe because they are so cheap to buy!
Im getting sub MOA out of mine with minimal load development. We will see how long it lasts but i think what you get for what you pay surprises people vs spending 3-4x the money for similar results. I did not expect mine to shoot as well as it does for the $120 i paid for it, but I will take it.
ACSS the things @14:45
What we really need is a 1 to 15 LPVO.
That wouldn’t be as good as it sounds
@@OreGear that's what they said about the 1 to 8.
Then the 1 to 10.
It took some trial and error to get them right.
Attibal has a 1 to 12 that is stupid expensive with a not so great reticle. It's a matter of time before the other manufacturers jump on that.
1 to 15 is probably three to five years away.
I would say the 1-10 is as good as it sounds either.
@OreGear i did a comparisons on my channel between Primary Arms PLX 1 to 8 ($1500 japanese glass ) and their SLX 1 to 10 ( $450 chinese glass).
The test was to read the letters on cargo containers at about 1000 yds. Basic eye chart test. I found more magnification wins.
And the reticle is far inferior and the field of view and eye box is less forgiving than a 2.5-10
ya join the Geisel bandwagon
Any reason to even consider an lpvo when you can have a setup like this?
Uhhhh...because.....you want one - Brass Facts
Im disliking this entirely because you jacked my whole ass idea. But for real, damn good build.
He jacked your whole ass?
Or just use a 308/6.5 creedmoor
Im going 16 in .308 and full auto glock. 😅
That bipod sucks. other than that, nice rifle
KE lower, oof
I don't understand putting a white light on a rifle that is basically set up for long range shots. It's like putting a weapon light on a tank cannon. The projectile will far outrange the limitations of the the light. They're at cross purposes.
The Blazer LEP light (which it looks like he has) can throw much further than traditional LED heads. Also, and more importantly, bad guys usually come out at night. So it's wise to always have a white light on any defensive firearm.
@@jedi7489so you can show them exactly where your position is?
pest control for large properties was mentioned a min or two in.
Did you watch the video? This light covers the effective range of this rifle.
The thumbnail literally says, "Own everything out to 600 Meters"...as in 0-600. So literally any light would be appropriate on this type of rifle...but especially one like this with very good throw.
WHEN PEOPLE WITH pRIMARY aRMS SCOPES SAY THEY CAN GET FIRST ROUND HITS AT 600 YARDS