Unlike most people, I approve of the way the Cybermen are portrayed here. Them getting damaged by bullets and arrows, and screaming, really reminds you that they used to be just like us.
They're barely even damaged by bullets (which don't kill them). It is the gold-head arrows with poison that has them dying/screaming, and yes, I actually like their screams - they are, after all, minced humans in tin cans. This doesn't diminish their 'fear factor' because something very specific is killing them (Painforte on the sidelines with her golden arrows). The Cybermen are still casually walking towards a regiment of Neo-Nazi's with UZI's like they're absolutely no threat at all. No gold? No chance.
4:07: The large building in the background was demolished in the late 90s and the entire area was redeveloped; the area is now dominated by the O2 Arena.
Jack The Film Fanatic the only reason they looked bad was because they had shiny heads with dark bodies it would’ve looked better if it was all shiny or all dark
The top of the chest piece is the best. The shinied-up componentry had previously been covered over by a dark tinted plastic grille. Much better without it. Not a fan of the cricket gloves though.
The weakness of the Cybernen was akready shown in The Five Doctors. The Gallifreyan forbidden zone had weaponry that fired spears into them and destroyed them. The intent of the imagery was to show, that the forbidden zone was so deadly that none of Dr. Who's most fearsome adversaries could survive there.
In deleted scenes, it was shown more directly that their goal was to establish a Fourth Reich. Regarding the use of Uzis, really they were easy to obtain, easy to maintain, easy to use, and effective.
JB Explores I’ll take the classic era’s wobbly sets and barely passable acting from extras over the current abomination - featuring a miscast cosplaying soccer mom and companions with all the acting range of lawn ornaments 🙄
Its funny how they are written with no understanding of emotion yet when a bit of gold is detected there is a strong sense of fear when the cyberman with the gold detecting device runs away lol
Yes the extended version . Wish they'd release the extended cut on DVD . And I also think this episode could do with a new FX treatment too , like actually add beam's coming from the cybermen's guns.
0:40 Funfact: on the German DVD Version of the Episode the speech between the cybermen and the doctor is not in the Episode its Cuts directly to the soilder that shoots the cybermen
@JamPox101 it's the same with Battlefield but unlike the Silver Nemesis dvd you can get all the extras but it's only on the full length version on disc 2, disc 1 is the normal 4 part but without the extras.
Objectively, Silver Nemesis is the weakest story of S25, but there's plenty of memorable moments. I love how the Cyber Leader menacingly strolls towards the Nazis and doesn't give a silver sh*t about the battle. There's some poor editing and post-production (like the infamous 'aaahh' dubbing), but it's still a memorable moment. Also love Ace vs Cybermen in episode 3, and the Painforte speech in the finale - "Doctor Who? Have you ever wondered where he came from? Who he is?"
Because David Banks played the Cyber Leader in every 80’s Cybermen Story, I always think that it’s the same Leader from Earthshock in all of the later stories, even though the Cyber Leader died at the end of every story.
Gojirawars 03 perhaps a personality template downloaded to Cybermen designated as leaders? Anyway, you'll be glad to know that David Banks is returning as the Cyberleader this July, in an audio story called _Hour of the Cybermen_ - and Mark Hardy is back as the Cyberlieutenant in the same story :D
I hated this story - having Cybermen explode on contact with gold was just stupid beyond words. The original concept was that gold coated their breathing apparatus and effectively suffocated them. Humans eventually defeated them in this way by inventing the Glitter Gun. But gold is one of the most unreactive elements there is, so having Cybermen explode when Ace slighshots a gold coin at them, just ridiculous. The Cybermen are designed and built to survive - it unimaginable that they've have armour that exploded on contact with gold, which hardly reacts with anything.
Even in "Revenge of the Cybermen", gold is shown to be ineffectual in stopping Cybermen until the Doctor puts it into the venom chamber of a cybermat. In "Earthshock" the Doctor uses Adric's gold badge on the Cyberleader but all it does is make him mad. Neither of these occasions bother me, it just shows that although an exploitable weakness, it wasn't much of one. But in Silver Nemesis where the Cybermen are treating gold like it's radioactive and just the mere touch being toxic is truly daft. I don't know whose (lack of a) bright idea that was - whether it was Kevin Clarke or Andrew Cartmel but that really should have gone back to the drawing board. Still, Ace's slingshot fight with the Cybermen in the final episode is a truly superb sequence, even if it is ridiculous.
CountScarlioni Apparently that was Kevin Clarke, who suggests that JNT overplayed the gold factor in his briefing to him. Cartmel was desperately trying to go through some of the other Cybermen stories on tape!
What I hate if how they never tried fixing it. Their whole stick is survival yet fail to find a way to protect themselves. I'll give new who credit for not using this weakness.
Well your forgetting the fact that the gold arrow was also covered in poison which is probably what made it so effective but yeah your right the whole exploding thing doesn’t make sense
Morrigan Ravenchild They weren’t scarier but alright. There suits looked like they were made of tinfoil and they hardly did anything in Tomb of the Cybermen. Just stayed underground most of the episode (aside from the controller, who was beaten in a fist fight by a regular, partially converted guy)
Yeah I like the first Troughton era ones too. I think it has a lot to do with their voices as well. The Hartnell ones have human voices but speak without expression, these just sound like Darth Vader but the Troughton ones sound synthesized. I know they are meant to be part human, but those artificial sounding voices are much scarier.
@@morriganravenchild6613 Neoprene?!? I'm going to look that up. Sure ALL these 1980s ones were originally flight suits like the RAF use but with the cyber bits attached (but the cricket gloves, chromium finish and removal of black chevron plates in chest seem to be the major difference - they've gone back to the 'glass jaw' design of 1982 but these ones seem to have a 'modesty' frosting on them like they have on shower/bathroom windows! My personal favourites are the ones from THE INVASION but that's just aesthetics more than anything.
When I heard Mondassian Cybermen were coming back to the series I was hoping they'd look and sound like this. Instead we got the cheesy Hartnell version.
They edited in that awful "Aahhhh" but couldn't add some sort of bullet/collision effect to make it look like something actually hit the idiot. Editing room really let it down on both fronts.
when this story was written, the Cybermen were not in it. The producer decided to have Cybermen in it, but the writer knew very little about them other than gold was deadly to them, and in his words (i remember reading the interview he gave all these years later) "I was told to add the Cybermen and i did."if i was told to add something, i would do at least basic research on them.
I love Silver Nemesis, but even I will admit that this is the weakest story in Season 25 and 26. A part of it is that there is way too much going on in a matter of 3 parts. Plus the emotional Cybermen were at their worst here. This really needed one more part
What it really needed... was to be something other than a direct remake of Remembrance of the Daleks literally two stories beforehand. And this is seriously cheesy stuff even by Who's standards. At least the special effects were fairly decent.
All of Seasons 25-26 were horrendous. The only half-decent story was Remembrance. I really do love Ace and Sylvester but the plots were simply getting increasingly ludicrous and unbearable. Borderline NuWho bad.
Somehow this scene is better than when the British army faces off against them in the new series, At least the Soldiers initially fall back and cover one another until deciding crouching out in the open is the way to go. Then again I'm biased, my parents recorded this on VHS for me and I watched the hell out of it as a kid.
Did anyone else think Silver nemesis and Remembrance of the Daleks sort of share the same basic storyline? 2 or 3 different factions fighting for some kind of time lord super weapon, which eventually destroys one of the factions after they use it thinking it is under their control.
And the same "The Doctor as the mysterious 'Other' who was behind it all"). I never liked the "cosmic puppet master" Doctor, any more than I like the NuWho "I am the Doctor, fear me" stuff. It turns the enemies into jokes.
Close to the end of episode one a number of policemen were gas attacked although De Flores and his dimwitted chief henchman Karl refused to believe the Seventh Doctor and Ace over how they lost their lives. The Cyber Leader and his squadron notice that the Doctor and Ace have taken the bow away for analysis. The Cyber Lieutenant later tells the Leader that Peintfort and her slave Richard are also a threat to them.
I always fond it utterly stupid how they changed the Cybermen's vulnerability to gold from the original concept (it plates their breathing aparatus and suffocates them - or rather, deprives the organic components of oxygen) to "explode on contact". The idea that a Cyberman would die from a gold-tipped arrow that somehow penetrates it's armour _which is completely invulnerable to bullets_ is ludicrous. Yo get it later on where Ace blows up Cybermen with gold coins launched from her slingshot. The latter eras of Doctor Who, from Five Doctors onwards, totally degraded the Cybermen to bumbling idiots that were easily killed in the same way Voyager screwed up the Borg ("How do we beat them this week, Captain?" "Oh, the same way as every other week, Tuvok - invent some new technobabble")
I like the way the cybermen look like they have retro-headphones built into their heads. They should have some cool cybermen music in every scene and have views from a cyberman perspective so we could identify with them better - as done in Terminator and Robocop. 👁 👁 👄 PUT ME IN CHARGE OF DOCTOR WHO!!!
'Sit down Colonel!! I'd advise everyone to remain perfectly still. Drop your gun, major, you too,lieutenant....by ze fireplace' There's your Nazi; Colonel Kramer of the Schloss Adler, the castle of eagles.
I always thought Sliver Nemesis was a little good.. Not quite one of the best Cybermen stories I will admit to that but it’s still enjoyable in my opinion.
The Cyber Leader is informed by one of his cadets that the Doctor and Ace have pinched the bow for analysis and Lady Peintfort killed one of their associates. The Cyber Lieutenant later tells his boss the Leader that they're still intent on retaliation against the Doctor, Ace, Peintfort and Richard over the theft of the bow and the death of a colleague.
Not a perfect story by any means but I still like it anyway. Chalk it up to nostalgia for 80’s Who. I think McCoy’s era gets a bad rap from a lot of people.
Silver Nemesis is a bit mess as a story - especially as it is so similar to Remembrance of the Daleks(but with a narrative that isn't as well executed), however the action sequences(this one and Ace's encounters with the Cybermen) are superbly done.
Probably sensible in the case of cybermen coming out of their spaceship brandishing rayguns. Not so sensible to just stand there and let them shoot you back but still.
@@Enzo012How do they know that what the cybermen are holding are guns? But more importantly how do they know that shooting them will actually kill them or just provoke them?
@@bangerbangerbro Well they're Neo-Nazi's with guns eager to shoot someone though. If the cybermen were actually kind hearted aliens on a peace mission to Earth and holding translator devices they wouldn't particularly care. As whether guns they're guns will kill them or not there's only one way to find out.
The best answer I heard was someone describing it as "the emotion inhibitor shutting down as they're killed which then allows them to feel pain as they die"
Matthew Bailey Because most of them are converted human beings, as seen in the previous series of Dr Who, where that alien mercenary is captured in a London sewer & converted by them.
2:16 dies but then puts in the effort to straighten his legs.
I spotted that a long time ago and it made me giggle.
darren keady so did I
System tried a reboot including positional reboot .... didn't work.
I noticed that, too.
Cybermen care about being orderly even in death
3:45 Quality acting. Truly Oscar worthy.
DanFilmsLtd. Ahhh
Lol
DanFilmsLtd. Aggh! *Ded*
@The Doctor Don't forget jumping dead old lady from destiney of the daleks.
🤣
Unlike most people, I approve of the way the Cybermen are portrayed here. Them getting damaged by bullets and arrows, and screaming, really reminds you that they used to be just like us.
94830 086436 It kinda removes their fear factor though.
Just have them crush someone's hands until they bleed, that'll freak the kids out
They're barely even damaged by bullets (which don't kill them). It is the gold-head arrows with poison that has them dying/screaming, and yes, I actually like their screams - they are, after all, minced humans in tin cans. This doesn't diminish their 'fear factor' because something very specific is killing them (Painforte on the sidelines with her golden arrows). The Cybermen are still casually walking towards a regiment of Neo-Nazi's with UZI's like they're absolutely no threat at all. No gold? No chance.
If applying that only to gold arrows, then yes, that's a likely possibility.
Who said that dying involves pain?
4:07: The large building in the background was demolished in the late 90s and the entire area was redeveloped; the area is now dominated by the O2 Arena.
Silver Nemesis had the coolest Cybermen costumes. Basically the same design since 1981’s Earthshock, but with an added shiny/glossy look.
Jack The Film Fanatic the only reason they looked bad was because they had shiny heads with dark bodies it would’ve looked better if it was all shiny or all dark
Cybergooglies
The top of the chest piece is the best. The shinied-up componentry had previously been covered over by a dark tinted plastic grille. Much better without it. Not a fan of the cricket gloves though.
The weakness of the Cybernen was akready shown in The Five Doctors. The Gallifreyan forbidden zone had weaponry that fired spears into them and destroyed them. The intent of the imagery was to show, that the forbidden zone was so deadly that none of Dr. Who's most fearsome adversaries could survive there.
I like how the soldier dies and says "aaargh!"
So basically every soldier in this scene?
Achtung! Schweinhunt!!! Dumkopf! Aaaiieee!
© Valiant Comic c. 1970
You would have preferred, _’Oooh bloomin’ ‘eck, you got me ya bloody silver bugger!’_ . . ?
@@fletcherhamilton3177 Man has been 4 years since I made this comment and I have absolutely no idea what I was thinking lmao
(At 0:00 to 0:19) I really like the intimidating and awesome look and design of the Cybermen Assault Shuttlecraft. Who agrees with me?
The one fight where I'm rooting FOR the Cybermen
Yeah, the Cybermen think that they’re helping people by converting them. Neo-Nazis just hate and fear anything different.
I completely agree
Nazis were the basis for the Daleks
Communists were basis for the Cybermen
@@Cybermat47 same goes for Daleks and Isis
@@metalheadmachine4861 it's a real whoever wins we lose
Neo-Nazis armed with Israeli-made Uzi smgs? How ironic.
They never really mention them being neo nazi's. Kind of just assume they're some rogue Russian group that just want power.
Apart from the Nazi flag and such
In deleted scenes, it was shown more directly that their goal was to establish a Fourth Reich. Regarding the use of Uzis, really they were easy to obtain, easy to maintain, easy to use, and effective.
It was the 80s every bad guy groups goons were equipped with Uzis.
@@applemask They also outright toast to a fourth Reich
I actually love the cybermen design and portrayal in this story. I love Silver Nemesis as a story.
It's not my favorite Cyberman design, but it's a good one. And David Banks as the Cyber Leader is of course, as always, very cool.
I agree it’s a lot of fun. This story gets a lot of hate for reasons I never understood. I’ve always enjoyed it 👍
rrico168 I think it gets a lot of hate for it’s shoddiness and bad acting
JB Explores I’ll take the classic era’s wobbly sets and barely passable acting from extras over the current abomination - featuring a miscast cosplaying soccer mom and companions with all the acting range of lawn ornaments 🙄
rrico168 oh for sure, I enjoy the classic series far more.
Its funny how they are written with no understanding of emotion yet when a bit of gold is detected there is a strong sense of fear when the cyberman with the gold detecting device runs away lol
This is my favorite scene from Silver Nemesis
Yes the extended version . Wish they'd release the extended cut on DVD . And I also think this episode could do with a new FX treatment too , like actually add beam's coming from the cybermen's guns.
Five years later your dream comes true!!
This is from the extended VHS version, not the broadcasted/DVD version.
I hope the BBC release an “Extended Edition” Version Of Silver Nemesis on DVD
Max Kennedy Very unlikely unfortunately.
@@SegaNintendoGuy64 I have a feeling that they might release it on the Season 25 blu ray.
@@maxkennedy7430 The extended edition is confirmed as a bonus for the Season 25 blu ray coming in October
Where's the glitter gun when you need it?
I'm the LEADER! I'm the LEADER! I'm the LEADER OF THE GANG I AM!!!!!!!
0:40 Funfact: on the German DVD Version of the Episode the speech between the cybermen and the doctor is not in the Episode its Cuts directly to the soilder that shoots the cybermen
Warum denn? Und es gibt doctor who auf deutsch vor 2005? Lol
Same on the English DVD version of the episode.
The scene shown here is from the extended VHS cut of Silver Nemesis. The DVD only had the original broadcast version
@JamPox101 it's the same with Battlefield but unlike the Silver Nemesis dvd you can get all the extras but it's only on the full length version on disc 2, disc 1 is the normal 4 part but without the extras.
@@jampox101hopefully they include the extended version when the collection for Season 25 eventually comes out
In my opinion this is one of the best Cyberman moments from the classic era.
I felt we didn't see or hear enough of the Cybermen in the this story unlike Earthshock.
Some very fine people, on both sides.
Maxwell Bresee My thoughts exactly. 😂😂🤣😂😂
Oh great
@@scl1332 You can tell he was being facetious.
Objectively, Silver Nemesis is the weakest story of S25, but there's plenty of memorable moments. I love how the Cyber Leader menacingly strolls towards the Nazis and doesn't give a silver sh*t about the battle. There's some poor editing and post-production (like the infamous 'aaahh' dubbing), but it's still a memorable moment. Also love Ace vs Cybermen in episode 3, and the Painforte speech in the finale - "Doctor Who? Have you ever wondered where he came from? Who he is?"
0:56 that hand swipe thing!
As demonstrated here and developed in Earthshock.
@@danielredmond6101 what do you mean?
@@bangerbangerbro The Cyberleader did a similar hand swipe a couple of times in the 1982 serial Earthshock
@@bangerbangerbro David Banks
Because David Banks played the Cyber Leader in every 80’s Cybermen Story, I always think that it’s the same Leader from Earthshock in all of the later stories, even though the Cyber Leader died at the end of every story.
Gojirawars 03 perhaps a personality template downloaded to Cybermen designated as leaders?
Anyway, you'll be glad to know that David Banks is returning as the Cyberleader this July, in an audio story called _Hour of the Cybermen_ - and Mark Hardy is back as the Cyberlieutenant in the same story :D
The big finish audio warzone/conversion kinda confirms this
Girls locker room: P.e. sucks, god i hate the new teacher, wait is that a spaceship?
Boys locker room:
There's a shot towards the end of this story where the camera bumps into a railing, you can even hear it 🤣
3:44 When you kill someone in Goldeneye
I'm reminded of the Brigadier, "Just once I'd like to face aliens who could be killed by shooting them...."
Am I the only one who’s still watch and enjoy classic who no matter how bad the stories are
Et Tu
Jacob.
Doctor Who is the Sturgeon's Law of science fiction drama
Such a good episode!
I hated this story - having Cybermen explode on contact with gold was just stupid beyond words. The original concept was that gold coated their breathing apparatus and effectively suffocated them. Humans eventually defeated them in this way by inventing the Glitter Gun. But gold is one of the most unreactive elements there is, so having Cybermen explode when Ace slighshots a gold coin at them, just ridiculous.
The Cybermen are designed and built to survive - it unimaginable that they've have armour that exploded on contact with gold, which hardly reacts with anything.
Even in "Revenge of the Cybermen", gold is shown to be ineffectual in stopping Cybermen until the Doctor puts it into the venom chamber of a cybermat. In "Earthshock" the Doctor uses Adric's gold badge on the Cyberleader but all it does is make him mad. Neither of these occasions bother me, it just shows that although an exploitable weakness, it wasn't much of one.
But in Silver Nemesis where the Cybermen are treating gold like it's radioactive and just the mere touch being toxic is truly daft. I don't know whose (lack of a) bright idea that was - whether it was Kevin Clarke or Andrew Cartmel but that really should have gone back to the drawing board.
Still, Ace's slingshot fight with the Cybermen in the final episode is a truly superb sequence, even if it is ridiculous.
CountScarlioni Apparently that was Kevin Clarke, who suggests that JNT overplayed the gold factor in his briefing to him. Cartmel was desperately trying to go through some of the other Cybermen stories on tape!
What I hate if how they never tried fixing it. Their whole stick is survival yet fail to find a way to protect themselves. I'll give new who credit for not using this weakness.
Well your forgetting the fact that the gold arrow was also covered in poison which is probably what made it so effective but yeah your right the whole exploding thing doesn’t make sense
@@TheWeepingDalek Nightmare in Silver begs to differ.
Love this Cyber story. So atmospheric
Preferred the earlier "cruddier looking" Cybermen (Patrick Troughton era). They were a lot more scarier.
Morrigan Ravenchild They weren’t scarier but alright. There suits looked like they were made of tinfoil and they hardly did anything in Tomb of the Cybermen. Just stayed underground most of the episode (aside from the controller, who was beaten in a fist fight by a regular, partially converted guy)
Yeah I like the first Troughton era ones too. I think it has a lot to do with their voices as well. The Hartnell ones have human voices but speak without expression, these just sound like Darth Vader but the Troughton ones sound synthesized. I know they are meant to be part human, but those artificial sounding voices are much scarier.
These are the first CHROME ones?!?
@@GyitMulhaneski-GloriousYears Maybe, but the ones I'm talking about had what looked like silver painted neoprene.suits.
@@morriganravenchild6613
Neoprene?!? I'm going to look that up. Sure ALL these 1980s ones were originally flight suits like the RAF use but with the cyber bits attached (but the cricket gloves, chromium finish and removal of black chevron plates in chest seem to be the major difference - they've gone back to the 'glass jaw' design of 1982 but these ones seem to have a 'modesty' frosting on them like they have on shower/bathroom windows!
My personal favourites are the ones from THE INVASION but that's just aesthetics more than anything.
Mondassian Cybermen vs Stormtroopers! Who would win?
Jamie Olberding Mondasian Cybermen, obviously. Stormtroopers can't shoot for their life.
According to David Banks the Cybermen in this story are Cyber-Nomads.
Jamie Olberding cybermen obvs
Vs Cylons
When I heard Mondassian Cybermen were coming back to the series I was hoping they'd look and sound like this. Instead we got the cheesy Hartnell version.
3:44 acting of the year everyone
Barricade 04 ...aah
They edited in that awful "Aahhhh" but couldn't add some sort of bullet/collision effect to make it look like something actually hit the idiot. Editing room really let it down on both fronts.
Why does every Cyberman story since Earthshock include someone asking "What are they?" Only to be told "Cybermen"
You have to love/hate that death sound. Ugh... lol
when this story was written, the Cybermen were not in it. The producer decided to have Cybermen in it, but the writer knew very little about them other than gold was deadly to them, and in his words (i remember reading the interview he gave all these years later) "I was told to add the Cybermen and i did."if i was told to add something, i would do at least basic research on them.
Is it right for me to say that this version of the Cybermen (Since the Davidson era) is pretty good? X3
One on the left was in Raiders of the Lost Ark 3:53
Which One..?
@@uehdhsj.g2078 on the left
He's in all sorts. He was also in Where Eagles Dare
and an advert for tampax
No Anton Diffring was not in ROTLA
Am I the only person who likes the shiny design?
I love Silver Nemesis, but even I will admit that this is the weakest story in Season 25 and 26. A part of it is that there is way too much going on in a matter of 3 parts. Plus the emotional Cybermen were at their worst here. This really needed one more part
good night
What it really needed... was to be something other than a direct remake of Remembrance of the Daleks literally two stories beforehand. And this is seriously cheesy stuff even by Who's standards. At least the special effects were fairly decent.
The best part of the episode is when that soldier says "argh!" Truly Grammy award winning!
All of Seasons 25-26 were horrendous. The only half-decent story was Remembrance. I really do love Ace and Sylvester but the plots were simply getting increasingly ludicrous and unbearable. Borderline NuWho bad.
Still a better story than Revenge of the Cybermen.
Man, I quite like the Cybermen sounding like Darth Vader knockoffs
darth vader absolutely was a cyberman even down to the chest unit, just had a samurai helmet instead of handlebars
3:45 Bloody Hell! 😂
1:07 when me and the boys are cybermen from silver nemesis at comic-con
"A hit, a very palpable hit." -- Hamlet, Act 5, Scene 2.
De Flores and his chief henchman Karl seek refuge behind a purple Mark I Ford Granada 3.0 GXL sedan fitted with alloys of a later car.
What are you doing.
holy shit that fucking music
Theres something surreal and dreamlike about seeing the cybermen ship
The campiness of this story is through the roof!
3:47 damn that was satisfying
Sparkles!
I don't know what's a worse fate, turning into a Cyberman or being brain washed to be a Neo-Nazi ... probably the latter.
Why not both?
Basically choosing between communism and fascism.
It is Doctor Who teaching us so well the blessing of 'camping' this type of reality-urge and no one gets hurt.
Cybermen vs *excuse me*
4:04 directed by Michael Bay
Like mobile phones, Apple airpods and everything else, Michael Bay was invented on Doctor Who first.
I forgot this part of WW2, I remember when the tiger tank was considered obselete next to cybermen
The good old 80s
The decision from Season 23 onwards to stop using 16MM film when shooting on location was really bad. This footage has aged quite poorly.
As a kid I always thought the Cyber Leader said "I really Hate them" instead of Irradicate them
Wow! The spaceship was pretty good FX...... For Doctor Who
3:44 *A*
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10 cybermen in one spaceship dose got me thinking how many cybermen were in five doctors.
Somehow this scene is better than when the British army faces off against them in the new series, At least the Soldiers initially fall back and cover one another until deciding crouching out in the open is the way to go. Then again I'm biased, my parents recorded this on VHS for me and I watched the hell out of it as a kid.
That line from the cyberman, just before the nazi's fire at them wasn't in the DVD, can someone please tell me why that is
fascinating
Well I'am not an adult
This is the extended VHS version of the story, not the 3 part version.
Thanks for letting me know
Zanimation The VHS version is a 3 parts version.
Did anyone else think Silver nemesis and Remembrance of the Daleks sort of share the same basic storyline? 2 or 3 different factions fighting for some kind of time lord super weapon, which eventually destroys one of the factions after they use it thinking it is under their control.
And the same "The Doctor as the mysterious 'Other' who was behind it all"). I never liked the "cosmic puppet master" Doctor, any more than I like the NuWho "I am the Doctor, fear me" stuff. It turns the enemies into jokes.
Close to the end of episode one a number of policemen were gas attacked although De Flores and his dimwitted chief henchman Karl refused to believe the Seventh Doctor and Ace over how they lost their lives. The Cyber Leader and his squadron notice that the Doctor and Ace have taken the bow away for analysis. The Cyber Lieutenant later tells the Leader that Peintfort and her slave Richard are also a threat to them.
Who thinks the earthshock cyberman should come back.
Excellent!
Cyberman don't seem so bad now.
I always fond it utterly stupid how they changed the Cybermen's vulnerability to gold from the original concept (it plates their breathing aparatus and suffocates them - or rather, deprives the organic components of oxygen) to "explode on contact". The idea that a Cyberman would die from a gold-tipped arrow that somehow penetrates it's armour _which is completely invulnerable to bullets_ is ludicrous. Yo get it later on where Ace blows up Cybermen with gold coins launched from her slingshot. The latter eras of Doctor Who, from Five Doctors onwards, totally degraded the Cybermen to bumbling idiots that were easily killed in the same way Voyager screwed up the Borg ("How do we beat them this week, Captain?" "Oh, the same way as every other week, Tuvok - invent some new technobabble")
I like the way the cybermen look like they have retro-headphones built into their heads. They should have some cool cybermen music in every scene and have views from a cyberman perspective so we could identify with them better - as done in Terminator and Robocop.
👁 👁
👄 PUT ME IN CHARGE OF DOCTOR WHO!!!
Preach it Richard!
'Sit down Colonel!! I'd advise everyone to remain perfectly still. Drop your gun, major, you too,lieutenant....by ze fireplace'
There's your Nazi; Colonel Kramer of the Schloss Adler, the castle of eagles.
Cybermen? Storming this area? Why wasn't I informed?
It makes sense that these Cyberman scream because they aren’t converted to the same extent as Cybus cybermen.
cybus cybermen screamed to. when the daleks shot them you hear it.
No.
The seventh doctor’s era was really fuking weird.
Awesome 🤩👍💙👏⭐️😎😆🤖😍💚👌
I always thought Sliver Nemesis was a little good.. Not quite one of the best Cybermen stories I will admit to that but it’s still enjoyable in my opinion.
Looks like AntiFA disrupted another Alt-Right meeting....
Grant two groups of retards fighting while the smart people try to ignore them? Yeah, pretty much the USA right now.
Then the Fascists turn up and club them all to death.. The End!
@BTIsaac Fuck off you SJW swine!
Is no one going to comment on how the Doctor gets out of there, and leaves Ace in the firing line?
He trusts her enough to protect herself I guess, this ain’t her first rodeo afterall
Cybermen 0:42
The Cyber Leader is informed by one of his cadets that the Doctor and Ace have pinched the bow for analysis and Lady Peintfort killed one of their associates. The Cyber Lieutenant later tells his boss the Leader that they're still intent on retaliation against the Doctor, Ace, Peintfort and Richard over the theft of the bow and the death of a colleague.
Richard: ..I'll return to Briggs his money! Not Nicholas Briggs..EEK!!😄
0:48 And the DVD version doesn’t have that short scene.. Why?
@@theblackmesaresearchfacili1079 That doesn't answer my question I ask a year ago.
JamesTheBrony/JTB ok
Poor Anton Differing, he just couldn't shake that Nazi typecasting. But he did do one he** of a good job playing heavies.
somebody make "You Reposted In The Wrong Cybermen Battle" using casin, but with this instead of the second track
and start Casin once they start fighting
Not a perfect story by any means but I still like it anyway. Chalk it up to nostalgia for 80’s Who. I think McCoy’s era gets a bad rap from a lot of people.
How could her arrow possibly penetrate and stick into the TARDIS? Is it perhaps the Arrow of Raasilon? 😊
effects budget- £23
Virgin neo nazis vs chad Cybermen.
Despise The Nazis with All My Heart
Weird flex but ok
Silver Nemesis is a bit mess as a story - especially as it is so similar to Remembrance of the Daleks(but with a narrative that isn't as well executed), however the action sequences(this one and Ace's encounters with the Cybermen) are superbly done.
Another case of evil vs. evil.
Well why not
Evil comes in different forms
Forms that disagree with eachother
The first thing the humans do is shoot
Probably sensible in the case of cybermen coming out of their spaceship brandishing rayguns. Not so sensible to just stand there and let them shoot you back but still.
@@Enzo012How do they know that what the cybermen are holding are guns? But more importantly how do they know that shooting them will actually kill them or just provoke them?
@@bangerbangerbro Well they're Neo-Nazi's with guns eager to shoot someone though. If the cybermen were actually kind hearted aliens on a peace mission to Earth and holding translator devices they wouldn't particularly care. As whether guns they're guns will kill them or not there's only one way to find out.
@@Enzo012 Fair enough.
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If they’re neo nazis why do they use uzis?
Shooting from the hip?
Alternate title: NPCs vs. The Alt-Right
Alt title, actual people vs alt right
@@sillygoose635 ah yes
Because Cybermen are normal people
I'd take a neo-nazi over an emotionless cyborg any day
Weird to see the Cybermen so easily beaten
When the cybermen scream after they're hit it sounds like they have emotions
Matthew Bailey, They do to some extent.
The best answer I heard was someone describing it as "the emotion inhibitor shutting down as they're killed which then allows them to feel pain as they die"
Because they get hit in the chest unit (the exposed part) which breaks their Emotional Inhibitors, they feel deadly pain and die.
Matthew Bailey Because most of them are converted human beings, as seen in the previous series of Dr Who, where that alien mercenary is captured in a London sewer & converted by them.
Cybermen versus The Wild Geese. 😅
If only they had some penetrator ammunition, this fight would've been over a lot quicker
The Nazis chose the Uzi as their weapon. Uzi, the most Jewish gun ever.
Where did these nazis and cybermen take their shooting lessons from, call of duty? Come on