Because they are saying I was not a criminal act so really could of done an inquest first then if found any fault whatsoever of the officer breaking the law then charge him. Now he’s had his name plastered all over for a justified shooting
Chris kaba’s family/friends should be ashamed by weaponising his race and trying to portray him as an innocent victim knowing full well that he was involved in gang violence. The main stream media is also disgusting for portraying a criminal as innocent.
To be fair his loved ones are the only ones I understand trying to bring attention to him anyway possible even by weaponizing race bc they probably knew him it not as a gangster but a son, brother, friend, but for everyone else drawing conclusions to real miscarriages of justice should be ashamed of themselves. It’s insane that people don’t feel police have the right to protect themselves and it’s insane the officer was tried idk what this host is talking about.
@@azovandy14.88How does a car being rammed escalate to someone being shot to death? Honestly speaking, how many times have you seen that happen before in Britain? Not in America. We're not in the U.S. We don't have a culture of gun violence. Whether Kaba was innocent or not doesn't justify the killing. If that's the case then the police can just shoot anybody with a violent past during a pursuit irrespective of whether they're armed or not.
The BBC has a lot to answer i this case. They are still running stories about the anger in the black community in London about this case. It's absurd. The only people who feel sorry for Kaba are those who haven't read all the facts.
In fairness the man was also a gang member, apparently a member of a rival gang known as 17. Why is this happening? It's all about drugs stabbings and shootings.
Yes and the Prosecution attempted to play the 'expectant Father' card, until it was put to them that there was a domestic violence restraining order against him approaching the woman carrying his child.
I mean he has in the past, so... I mean what do you want him to do? Not talk about it? People would be saying "if Kaba was white he would be talking about it"....
James, it only took the Jury 3 hours, after hearing the same evidence that the CPS had. So what does that say about whether it should have gone to trial? What do you think the Officer and his family went through over the last 2 years? What about the strain that has been put on other armed Officers? What about the harm to community relations? What about the cost?
Exactly. The fact that it took so little for the jury to acquit him can only mean there was no solid case at all against him from the beginning and thus it shouldn't have gon to trial. It's all a public stunt to appease certain people. It's ultimately politically motivated.
That's pretty much the time that they've sat in court to hear the evidence. Then gone to deliberate, had a fast expresso,returned to the courtroom and said not guilty
Don't forget, the CPS were also privy to the antecedent's of the deceased and that he had shot a man day's earlier. All done to appease his family and 'the Community'.
Agreed on both counts. The justice system has repeatedly been revealed to be deeply flawed and the release of Blake's name is an example of rank stupidity within it if nothing else. On this occasion however I am of the opinion that at least the verdict was correct. The prosecution put forward a robust case but the video was compelling.
Can you enlighten me on why someone tried for a crime not have his identity known, I’m not British and don’t understand this procedure since when you’re indicted in the US your name isn’t protected.
@@azovandy14.88 isn't it common sense, if one is convicted they end up in jail, but if they end up not being convicted at the end of it, now their identity is public and they might be potential target for revenge. Its a common practice here as in India as well, ofcousre leaks happen and that is regrettable but still bettter to not reveal names in such cases until conviction.
As an ex police officer, I agree with James. By all means go to trial as a person was killed and the CPS deemed it necessary. What I totally disagree with, is the disclosure of the officer’s identity. It is a disgrace to do this and deliberately endanger the life of that officer and his family.
A top gang member who had shot someone days before and could be assumed to be armed was confronted by armed police who identified themselves as such and almost ran some of them over. I can't understand how anyone could support the prosecution of an officer who opened fire in these circumstances, no matter how much faith they hold in the criminal justice system.
I agree with all your points, but I keep flipping on his identity being revealed. On one side I agree with you and that once a guilty verdict was delivered he could have been named. But on the other side I also believe that justice should be seen to be done and that means those who are accused of crimes should be named unless they are a minor. I am sure the judge considered these arguments in the same way that previous convictions and arrests were withheld from the jury and media to ensure a fair trial as if it had been revealed before the trial there is no doubt the verdict would have been the same, but would the jury been swayed by it? The same argument can be used about withholding his name as it could have led to an unsafe verdict. All I can say I am glad I am not a judge who has to deal with these issues
@LiveDonkeyDeadLion how does revealing his name in any way allow justice to be done? In our legal system, justice comes at the end of a trial, not the beginning of it. Revealing his name achieved literally nothing but endangerment and harassment of the officer in question and his family.
‘It’s gone as well as anyone could have hoped?’ Sgt Blake has a £10K bounty on his head because he was named in a trial he should never have faced. What a spectacularly ignorant thing to say.
The trial was not about the race or background of who was shot. It was about whether the cop could justify his actions and the jury decided that he could.
While I mostly agree, race is a factor because you could ask whether if the driver had been white would police have tried harder to take him alive? They could have shot him with a taser or shot him in the arm or leg instead of the head. They could have used their police cars to box him in to stop his car instead of shooting him in the head. Personally I think it wouldn't have made a difference, but it's not unreasonable to ask the question.
And the jury did it in less that 3 hours, which means there was no case to begin with and bringing this to tiral was a politically motivated public stunt.
@@georgezee5173 No, it wasn't a politically motivated public stunt. And the belief that it was might say more about you that you might be comfortable with.
Place yourself in the shoes of an officer who has to make a split second decision in real time. You and your colleagues are at risk, whilst the suspect is at the wheel of a vehicle and actively trying to flee the scene of a crime. Justice WAS served. The deceased WAS a criminal.
The issue that you fail to consider is the emotional and psychological impact on Sgt Blake and his family for two years, and whose identity should never been revealed.
Unfortunately, there will be sides, because if you're the officer involved (and his family), or the family and friends of the dead man, you're understandably going to struggle to take a purely objective stance. The rest of us however have that luxury.
So, is the suggestion from this that every Police Officer involved in a fatal shooting should be put on trial? What needs to be published is the details of how (and who) it was decided there should be a prosecution.
It took the jury less than 3 hours to conclude the defendant had to be acquitted. That can only mean there was no solid case to begin with, therefore it shouldn't have gone to trial (at least not for murd3r). This is ridiculous.
James, if this case ‘doesn’t have any suggestion of institutional racism’ - then why are you referencing it? I have no time for cowardly mealy-mouthing.
@@imconfused1237 he is addressing it because the people protesting the police are claiming racism. Because there is already a discussion of racism in the case by the public. He is addressing that topic instead of ignoring it regardless if the protestors are right or not. The fact that a large majority of people are thinking/saying it, regardless if true or not, should be a point of discussion. That is one of the reasons that people are radicalized because people refuse to address these issues properly. Addressing issues with facts and not emotions. Having discussions in respectful ways and not demeaning other people. Only then people can have meaningful progress.
@@Lee-q7r3y So basically you never watched the video and don't know his view on it, but still made an opinion based on a guess. Yea, I see why you vote Reform...
Police officer should never of been named. How the judge thinks that Kaba's background has no relevance is interesting to all his victims. There should always be a prosecution to ensure objective anlaysis and to ensure the public's confidence in the police.
The judge is correct in that opinion because Blake didn't know Kaba's background when he killed him. The relevant issue is whether or not Kaba's actions that night justified the use of lethal force against him and the jury found that it did. After watching the video of the events of that night I agree with them. Prior to that I wasn't sure and my opinion isn't based on Kaba's criminal history.
Criminal cases are always decided on the evidence presented to the jury. Kaba's background was not material to the case because the police officer did not know who he was so his background had no influence on the decision to shoot Kaba.
James is just rambling here as he supported this gang member who has so many convictions! This should never have gone to court, the man was doing his job!!
@williamdew7143. The officer may not have known the full details but we do know that the car was wanted because it was used as a get away in one the shootings a couple of days earlier. I am sure the police involved would have known that there was a real risk that the suspect was armed and dangerous, hence why they had armed police involved in the first place. After all, they don't routinely send the fire arms unit out when it's a suspect burglar.
@@chrischandler4151We also know that there are a lot of white supremacists in the police. Every time something like this happens. The police officers should always be scrutinized.
@@williamdew7143 That's a large part of why it went to trial - Blake had no idea who he was shooting either. It's totally irrelevant who Kaba was for that reason. bacon here is not the brightest bulb in the chandelier is he.
@@ArgHelo Guessing is a fools game in this situation but in any case Kaba's criminal history is totally irrelevant as we don't have the death penalty in this country. He died because of what he did that night at the hand of a policeman who didn't know that history either.
When people discuss topics like this with only the utmost certainty, + with disdain for anyone who has the gall, the utter GALL not to have made their minds up already, I don’t look at them like they know what they’re talking about. Very much the opposite for me
@@magicrectangleEnt Exactly. JoB takes the trouble to try to think things through with his listeners instead of just knowing what he wants to tell them to think.
@@justinshore5566 Well "limited" democracy if you prefer - but there is still a right to say things and respond. Hence you being allowed to post on here.
His mother said he was an aspiring architect... this was a ckmplete lie why did she not tell the truth that he was a violent gang member. She could have wrongly influenced the jury and thus should be charged with peverting the course of justice. Who lets there child become a gang member at 13. Take some responsibility and admit you were a bad parent
I tried listening to LBC again today but have finally concluded its a waste of time. O'brien seems disappointed that the police officer has been found innocent.
The only issue I have with this entire thing is the decision to release the officer's name to the public. It puts him and his family at risk for no reason.
The police officer was doing his job, being a police officer must be the only job whereby you can be protected and go through a trial for doing your job
Not even close lol - ever heard of malpractice lawsuits before, for a start? Police are, however, one of the few jobs where genuine wrongdoers can be protected against all repercussions, including from the public sector.
All talking about the police defence, he was, all like in or not have to believe he was doing what was right at the time any other opinions would require the ability of reading minds the lad in the car was already wanted and was aiming a vehicle at the officer in order to get away there is evidence of this, the officer was cleared of the charge by a jury, all I'm saying is I'm my opinion if I was in that position and someone was driving a car at me then I would have probably done the same thing. If this was the other way round and the officer was shot dead, would anyone be interested of have the same opinion of the situation?
James will not be pleased that it is now common knowledge kaba was a prime suspect in a shooting previous week and was a high ranking gang member of a gang responsible for murders dealing etc,
Nonsense. Kaba's identity was not known to Blake when he shot him and that is the key issue here. The question posed for the court was a simple one. Did the behaviour of an unknown black man at the time of the incident justify deadly force being used. Why would James be unhappy about Kaba's history of criminality? It makes no difference at all.
@@jmas1219 the car had a marker for firearms, as it was linked to a nightclub incident the week prior where Kaba was involved in a shooting so they would know that whoever was in the car would be either kaba or another just as dangerous gang member hence why the full road was blocked and firearms officers were everywhere, which is not the norm in our country, “ so don’t talk nonsense”, they knew it was a high chance of being high risk dangerous stop and that turned out true when Kaba tried to use his vehicle as a weapon which is just as dangerous as any gun or knife in that situation, one officer almost got flattened moments before the shot. Just go watch the body cam and come back and if you still believe that it was unjustified then literally nothing will convince you as it doesn’t suit the narrative you want to push.
By taking him to court in the uk now means you have some guilt. So now that policeman has to live with it. Hope he gets full pay and pension for the rest of his life and let him have a life outside the police force.
It's not for me to say whether the verdict was right or wrong, but we can't let shootings go unscruitinised. Chris Kaba was a criminal, but that isn't the reason Martin Blake was cleared. The question is whether or not he acted to prevent harm to himself or other people, and it appears the court has argued he did do this.
Agreed, and this point is being missed by so many people commenting. Regardless of Kaba's character or criminal background, a trial was justifiable as there was serious concern that Kaba was executed when other detention methodswere available. (I still believe he was executed, but that's irrelevant)
Exactly. This is why Shipman should never have gone to prison. He was doing an important job as a GP when he killed all those people. Terrible way to treat a doctor.
@@jamesprice4647 no, I was just agreeing with what James said. Maybe I should expand to say, any time someone dies at the hands of someone else regardless of circumstances, this should be reviewed by peers, even if that means it makes the job difficult, but maybe there are cases where a criminal trial is not the best option. You would have thought for example that the IPCC may have said in this case for example, this shouldn't go to court as in our opinion as an independent body we think this was a justified response.
@@TheWebstaff I get what you're saying but disagree with you on two levels. First it was rather subjective whether or not the police were justified in feeling endangered by Kaba's actions that night (none of them were actually in the path of the Audi) and secondly given the institutional racism in the Met police the faintest sniff of ambiguity needed taking to trial.
JOB sets himself up as a political expert, always has done. Now he's a legal expert. A sanctimonious prat! I always know when to turn off LBC, its when he comes on.
He's not making himself out to be a legal expert. He hasn't even given a personal opinion on the facts of the case. He has just said that he has a belief in the justice system.
James, let's imagine for a second that Kaba had driven his large SUV over a police officer's foot (irreversebly damaging his foot), then lost control going over the bumper of one of the cars creating a pin, overturned his car and passed away. Would the police officer still require a trial?
Of course not. In that circumstance the police would not have been responsible for his death. It is a nonsense scenario that has nothing to do with 'critical thinking' or this case.
@jmas1219 you said it's obvious that the police would be justified in that case. So doesn't it stand to reason that the threat of Kaba's large SUV (directly or indirectly), after being chased by the red and whites, after being pinned and continuing to ignore police instructions, would also justify any police action to keep themselves and the public safe
The whole thing is a complete joke. A brave policeman putting himself in danger dealing with a violent criminal, who has been hounded by race baiters, his career in tatters, and is now on the hit list of gangsters for doing his job. The guy and his family need relocated to Australia with new identities at public expense.
This is disengenuos, as one of the tests to carry forwards a prosecution is that there is a realistic possibility of a conviction. That there are questions is not enough, on its own, to justify a prosecution. Most likely the CPS, being in possession of all the evidence realised this. However, if they did not prosecute, then this would have turned into accusations of a cover-up, and that could have lead to 0rotests, riots and who knows what. It would certainly have been added to the list of grievances forever. Thus I suspect that the ethnicity of the dead man was taken into account in the decision to prosecute in the interests of public order. It was thus an exercise in damage limitation. Tough if you are that police officer, as your freedom is dependent on the judgement of twelve people, no matter how strong you believe your defence to be, and he still faces the prospect of disciplinary action.
you should have looked at the video and seen that the policeman was defending himself from a vehicle driving at him. and you should have looked at the history of the criminal driver. no trial required.
The names of those making the decisions to bring this case to trial need to be revealed both in the CPS and IOPC. They should also publicly explain the exact reasoning behind their decisions. They need to regain public trust in the system or continue with the unacceptable situation of public opinion being at odds with the criminal justice system.
Why? As revolting a character as Kaba was his identity was unknown to Blake when he shot him. Are you in favour of the Met Police shooting unarmed suspects whenever they feel like it? Are you seriously that sure that all police officers are angels in blue?
No its no ridiculous. The police didn't know who was driving the car, or know anything about Kaba. To run into the path of a fleeing car and claiming your life is in danger is questionable. That is a trap that American police use to get the opportunity to shoot.
The path of the fleeing car was blocked before the car turned into the street, with armed police set up to stop the car. He decided to drive straight at it and ram back and forward when any normal person would have stopped and complied (without armed police presence). Should they have cleared a path for Kaba to escape possibly causing a police chase endangering the public?
Even if we ignore everything we know about Kaba now, this should never have gone to trial in normal circumstances because the level of evidence was insufficient for a probable conviction which is the supposed criteria for proceeding with prosecution. We’ve all seen him ram his car back and forward and put the officers in danger. The reason this trial happened was to appease the minority of black people and the middle class white people who LOVE to protest “injustice” who blame the police every time. It is comforting that many people of all races agree that he was putting armed officers in a situation to shoot by ramming the cars and potentially running over a police officer had he continued. Anyone who can’t see this should not be taken seriously
@@jamesprice4647 I find that the people who spout nonsense very rarely actually look at the facts. They tend to "listen" for the first few seconds, or not at all, and then formulate their opinion not based on facts but by emotions. 🤷♂️
@@jamesprice4647 A leading gang member who shot someone just days prior was stopped by armed police and then tried to drive off almost running some of them over. Do you need more facts?
We would have had the army on the streets today they were on standby The police in London were all going to hand their weapons in as it’s voluntary to carry arms
Yes we would have. It was only withheld so as not to prejudice the jury before the verdict was reached. That is standard procedure in court, even in magistrates' court.
Officer should never have been named, are paramedics and firemen held to the same public scrutiny if something goes wrong? No is the answer so why this media circus.
Anyone judging the police officer has probably never done anything in their lives remotely as dangerous as confronting gangsters with a history of firearms offences, but those people have the audacity to think they know what to do in that situation better than trained firearms officers where they have to make a split second decision. I'm so glad he was acquited and this country is safer as a result. And the Sgt's life is now arguably forever in danger of revenge because he name was revealed by the judge for some bewildering reason. A black person could bludgeon a kid to death in broad daylight and some "activists" would defend their innocence solely because they're black. That's the reality of some people's minds.
We all know why it was taken to court. The police were covering themselves. The officer was sacrificed. If all this criminal's ancestors were born in Britain, the case wouldn't have been brought to trial. The release of the body-cam footage to the public would be enough for most people. But it has to be played out differently because of...we all know.
2 tier justice system..............if Kaba had been white ......all this gangland hitman background would have been leaked to the media .......and no officer charged.
@@jamesprice4647 All I'm saying is that no one would know anything about this incident if the criminal didn't have exotic ancestry. The cam-footage would be proof enough that a legal procedure took place.
The biggest disgrace is that the officer had his identity revealed knowing this involved a gang that could seek revenge, that judge needs sacking
Yes, that makes no sense.
Disgraceful the officer’s identity was revealed. His and his family’s lives will always be endangered now.
That's disgusting and probably deliberate.
Don't be so silly
Because they are saying I was not a criminal act so really could of done an inquest first then if found any fault whatsoever of the officer breaking the law then charge him. Now he’s had his name plastered all over for a justified shooting
Imagine being one of the idiots who was protesting about this the other day. That was a waste of time wasn’t it.
Oh the middle class rent a mob, will come out for 'anything' at the drop of a hat.
Bet James O'feckwit was
The officer's name should never have been revealed
The officer should have never been in court
Chris kaba’s family/friends should be ashamed by weaponising his race and trying to portray him as an innocent victim knowing full well that he was involved in gang violence. The main stream media is also disgusting for portraying a criminal as innocent.
To be fair his loved ones are the only ones I understand trying to bring attention to him anyway possible even by weaponizing race bc they probably knew him it not as a gangster but a son, brother, friend, but for everyone else drawing conclusions to real miscarriages of justice should be ashamed of themselves. It’s insane that people don’t feel police have the right to protect themselves and it’s insane the officer was tried idk what this host is talking about.
@@azovandy14.88How does a car being rammed escalate to someone being shot to death? Honestly speaking, how many times have you seen that happen before in Britain? Not in America. We're not in the U.S. We don't have a culture of gun violence. Whether Kaba was innocent or not doesn't justify the killing. If that's the case then the police can just shoot anybody with a violent past during a pursuit irrespective of whether they're armed or not.
The BBC has a lot to answer i this case. They are still running stories about the anger in the black community in London about this case.
It's absurd. The only people who feel sorry for Kaba are those who haven't read all the facts.
@@azovandy14.88naive
It’s called denial
Wonder how the man Kaba shot in both legs a week earlier feels?
In fairness the man was also a gang member, apparently a member of a rival gang known as 17. Why is this happening? It's all about drugs stabbings and shootings.
would you believe he refused to help the police in their investigation.
@@williammohan9784 I would.
@@MsItalia007 but he will be arsing around for a while
@@williammohan9784 He hasn't got a leg to stand on.
Can’t stand this presenter
This gangster beat up his ex pregnant gf ....remember that !!
Yes and the Prosecution attempted to play the 'expectant Father' card, until it was put to them that there was a domestic violence restraining order against him approaching the woman carrying his child.
ALLEGEDLY... beat his girlfriend.
Why would you even want to be a police officer today?
If Chris kaba was white, do you think of brien would be dedicating a large chunk of his show towards this story.
Ask him. What a dumb thing to imply.
He couldn't care less about Peter Lynch
No
I think we all know the answer is, NO
I mean he has in the past, so... I mean what do you want him to do? Not talk about it? People would be saying "if Kaba was white he would be talking about it"....
James, it only took the Jury 3 hours, after hearing the same evidence that the CPS had. So what does that say about whether it should have gone to trial? What do you think the Officer and his family went through over the last 2 years? What about the strain that has been put on other armed Officers? What about the harm to community relations? What about the cost?
Exactly. The fact that it took so little for the jury to acquit him can only mean there was no solid case at all against him from the beginning and thus it shouldn't have gon to trial. It's all a public stunt to appease certain people. It's ultimately politically motivated.
That's pretty much the time that they've sat in court to hear the evidence. Then gone to deliberate, had a fast expresso,returned to the courtroom and said not guilty
Don't forget, the CPS were also privy to the antecedent's of the deceased and that he had shot a man day's earlier. All done to appease his family and 'the Community'.
The jury apparently gave the judge a note to read out saying that the case shouldn't have gone to court, but surprise, surprise, they didn't.
Exactly well said
James O'Brian squirming at the truth!!!
You are being very naive about the justice system. The officer should never have been named, he will now have to live in fear for his life.
Agreed on both counts. The justice system has repeatedly been revealed to be deeply flawed and the release of Blake's name is an example of rank stupidity within it if nothing else.
On this occasion however I am of the opinion that at least the verdict was correct. The prosecution put forward a robust case but the video was compelling.
Open justice.
@@jmas1219 "Robust case" 😂
Can you enlighten me on why someone tried for a crime not have his identity known, I’m not British and don’t understand this procedure since when you’re indicted in the US your name isn’t protected.
@@azovandy14.88 isn't it common sense, if one is convicted they end up in jail, but if they end up not being convicted at the end of it, now their identity is public and they might be potential target for revenge. Its a common practice here as in India as well, ofcousre leaks happen and that is regrettable but still bettter to not reveal names in such cases until conviction.
Kaba's family & supporters need to have a reality check instead of playing the victims
They know what he was like.
His family ARE the victims here. The family of criminals are always innocent victims. In view of his history Kaba himself was not.
They were after a money cheque not a reality one.
"But but we is black so it's not justice innit bruv fam blud brap brap" and all that nonsense
@@Dynasty1818are you ok son?
Do you need your meds?
I am surprised 0'Brien never blamed Brexit.
Got the best face for radio
@@edwinflower What a pointless comment.
How's that been going? 😊
Well done! Day’s dumbest comment
@@steveomokhoje8029 your welcome.😏
As an ex police officer, I agree with James. By all means go to trial as a person was killed and the CPS deemed it necessary. What I totally disagree with, is the disclosure of the officer’s identity. It is a disgrace to do this and deliberately endanger the life of that officer and his family.
He’s a Sargent he’s protected
A top gang member who had shot someone days before and could be assumed to be armed was confronted by armed police who identified themselves as such and almost ran some of them over.
I can't understand how anyone could support the prosecution of an officer who opened fire in these circumstances, no matter how much faith they hold in the criminal justice system.
I agree with all your points, but I keep flipping on his identity being revealed. On one side I agree with you and that once a guilty verdict was delivered he could have been named. But on the other side I also believe that justice should be seen to be done and that means those who are accused of crimes should be named unless they are a minor. I am sure the judge considered these arguments in the same way that previous convictions and arrests were withheld from the jury and media to ensure a fair trial as if it had been revealed before the trial there is no doubt the verdict would have been the same, but would the jury been swayed by it? The same argument can be used about withholding his name as it could have led to an unsafe verdict. All I can say I am glad I am not a judge who has to deal with these issues
@LiveDonkeyDeadLion how does revealing his name in any way allow justice to be done?
In our legal system, justice comes at the end of a trial, not the beginning of it. Revealing his name achieved literally nothing but endangerment and harassment of the officer in question and his family.
We cant have our armed police hesitating in critical situations it could cost lives ,we need to back our armed police
No trials
The jury wrote a letter to the judge saying this case should not of gone to court but the judge failed to read it out
What a pillock this man is
O'Brien confirming once again what he is
A sausage
Thoughtful and pragmatic? Doubtless the polar opposite of you.
supporting the police? as he is...whathesaying u have an issue with?
I’ve not watched it yet but expect as much.
🍩🍩🍩🍩💯
A ganster who killed and then got killed with a protest is blatant hypocrisy
I'm on the side of justice, and justice was seen to be done, on two counts.
‘It’s gone as well as anyone could have hoped?’
Sgt Blake has a £10K bounty on his head because he was named in a trial he should never have faced.
What a spectacularly ignorant thing to say.
Some people sided with Kaba because he was photogenic. That's how superficial racial arguments can be.
I’m a Superintendent In e neighboring force and stand with Kaba 😢
@@CEO786 ?????
@@Rhyds86 there were 785 CEOs before him, is this a surprise we've reached the bottom of the barrel?
@@CEO786 Why?
@@CEO786 ha ha ha you are funny,
The trial was not about the race or background of who was shot. It was about whether the cop could justify his actions and the jury decided that he could.
Loves to stir the race card does James.
While I mostly agree, race is a factor because you could ask whether if the driver had been white would police have tried harder to take him alive? They could have shot him with a taser or shot him in the arm or leg instead of the head. They could have used their police cars to box him in to stop his car instead of shooting him in the head. Personally I think it wouldn't have made a difference, but it's not unreasonable to ask the question.
And the jury did it in less that 3 hours, which means there was no case to begin with and bringing this to tiral was a politically motivated public stunt.
@@nick1065 You do know you are forcing people to question why you would say that?
@@georgezee5173 No, it wasn't a politically motivated public stunt. And the belief that it was might say more about you that you might be comfortable with.
He was a part of one of the most dangerous gangs inLondon. Bet jobsworth is seething.
You just don't get it, justice for all of us, even the worst of us or we have nothing.
@@RichardFraser-y9t what even protesters that shout at police dogs?
@@steven161183well said mate
Maybe try watching the video first before commenting. Or, if you did watch it, why do you think the presenter is seething?
Haaaaaa..@@steven161183
Ultimately, he also used his vehicle as a potential weapon. Officers are trained in the very same scenario, honestly held belief!
Place yourself in the shoes of an officer who has to make a split second decision in real time. You and your colleagues are at risk, whilst the suspect is at the wheel of a vehicle and actively trying to flee the scene of a crime. Justice WAS served. The deceased WAS a criminal.
Exactly. I love how these incidents always bring out the 'armchair generals' among us.
The issue that you fail to consider is the emotional and psychological impact on Sgt Blake and his family for two years, and whose identity should never been revealed.
he has spoke about that aswell
Congratulations James. You have revealed your ignorance to the public once again. Thank you ❤
explain ?
@@simoncox9689 aren't you going to reply to rulsey
Did you actually watch the video or just assume JOB sided with Kaba and then headed straight to the comment section?
Unfortunately, there will be sides, because if you're the officer involved (and his family), or the family and friends of the dead man, you're understandably going to struggle to take a purely objective stance. The rest of us however have that luxury.
Absolutely, the law has to be seen to be carried out, its been investigated and the officer found not guilty, end of story.
his family
No it’s not as he will still have misconduct trial with police
@@AndrewBrown-v8i ?
Ethnicity?? He was ramming police cars
So, is the suggestion from this that every Police Officer involved in a fatal shooting should be put on trial?
What needs to be published is the details of how (and who) it was decided there should be a prosecution.
It took the jury less than 3 hours to conclude the defendant had to be acquitted. That can only mean there was no solid case to begin with, therefore it shouldn't have gone to trial (at least not for murd3r). This is ridiculous.
That is up to the CPS and the facts of the case. It is not up to the police.
James, if this case ‘doesn’t have any suggestion of institutional racism’ - then why are you referencing it? I have no time for cowardly mealy-mouthing.
This beach “doesn’t have any suggestion of tourism” - then why mention it??? I never expect to hear tourism mentioned in relation to beaches!
What are you talking about?
2 tier justice system ......that officer would never have been charged if Kaba was a white gangster ...........
@@imconfused1237 he is addressing it because the people protesting the police are claiming racism. Because there is already a discussion of racism in the case by the public. He is addressing that topic instead of ignoring it regardless if the protestors are right or not. The fact that a large majority of people are thinking/saying it, regardless if true or not, should be a point of discussion. That is one of the reasons that people are radicalized because people refuse to address these issues properly.
Addressing issues with facts and not emotions. Having discussions in respectful ways and not demeaning other people. Only then people can have meaningful progress.
@@zealottk maybe also a discussion about gang culture and how this could get you killed
O'Brien you hilarious 🤣🤣🤣 what a joke you are
Why is JOB still given air time?... the man is a complete fool.
Except he has more than a million listeners, so perhaps your opinion is a minority. Yet here you are adding to the alorythm.
Based on what argument?
And so are you.
@@rogerphelps9939 😂😂sausage jocky ..... vote Reform uk 🇬🇧
@@Lee-q7r3y So basically you never watched the video and don't know his view on it, but still made an opinion based on a guess. Yea, I see why you vote Reform...
Police officer should never of been named. How the judge thinks that Kaba's background has no relevance is interesting to all his victims. There should always be a prosecution to ensure objective anlaysis and to ensure the public's confidence in the police.
The judge is correct in that opinion because Blake didn't know Kaba's background when he killed him. The relevant issue is whether or not Kaba's actions that night justified the use of lethal force against him and the jury found that it did. After watching the video of the events of that night I agree with them. Prior to that I wasn't sure and my opinion isn't based on Kaba's criminal history.
Criminal cases are always decided on the evidence presented to the jury. Kaba's background was not material to the case because the police officer did not know who he was so his background had no influence on the decision to shoot Kaba.
Why dont u talk about the protester killed in prison james o lying ?
Because that's not the subject on the table in this broadcast.
The family accepted the police actions they only took this root when the iopc got involved and they saw the £ signs. Where is his dad?
James is just rambling here as he supported this gang member who has so many convictions! This should never have gone to court, the man was doing his job!!
The public only now know who the dude really was, don't go having a heart attack about it lol
Was the officer aware of the convictions? Was JoB? Were you?
@williamdew7143. The officer may not have known the full details but we do know that the car was wanted because it was used as a get away in one the shootings a couple of days earlier.
I am sure the police involved would have known that there was a real risk that the suspect was armed and dangerous, hence why they had armed police involved in the first place. After all, they don't routinely send the fire arms unit out when it's a suspect burglar.
@@chrischandler4151We also know that there are a lot of white supremacists in the police. Every time something like this happens. The police officers should always be scrutinized.
@@williamdew7143 That's a large part of why it went to trial - Blake had no idea who he was shooting either. It's totally irrelevant who Kaba was for that reason. bacon here is not the brightest bulb in the chandelier is he.
James you clown he shot someone 2 days before
he said that an james is not defending the guy..so what are you talking about
Someone with the name Bushwacker calls somebody else a clown? Thats a laugh!
No1 knew that till today tho, not even the jury. So you don’t make sense. 😮
@claygames9069 you could have guessed it though tbf
@@ArgHelo Guessing is a fools game in this situation but in any case Kaba's criminal history is totally irrelevant as we don't have the death penalty in this country. He died because of what he did that night at the hand of a policeman who didn't know that history either.
JoB is so nervous when discussing these issues to the point where he digs himself into a political hole. Great to see.
When people discuss topics like this with only the utmost certainty, + with disdain for anyone who has the gall, the utter GALL not to have made their minds up already, I don’t look at them like they know what they’re talking about. Very much the opposite for me
explain? as i dont see anything here he said thats wrong
Try Specsavers
@@magicrectangleEnt Hi James.
@@magicrectangleEnt Exactly. JoB takes the trouble to try to think things through with his listeners instead of just knowing what he wants to tell them to think.
Whatever the verdict. The Investigation was correct. Checks and balances are needed in a democracy..
You think we live in a democracy!
@@lynnevenables7193 We try. Nothing is perfect.
The officers life could well be in danger , from a known violent gang seeking revenge….. can you see that!?!?
No. Get back to your Daily Express.
Multi - millionaire Lord Haw Haw of Chiswick gives us his illiberal liberal rantings....
You live in a Democracy. That means both you and he can say these things.
@@mustrumridcully3853 And what do you live in?
@@mustrumridcully3853 Democracy, ha funny!
@@justinshore5566 Well "limited" democracy if you prefer - but there is still a right to say things and respond. Hence you being allowed to post on here.
@@mustrumridcully3853 unless it's deleted by youtube, brilliant, ha! enjoy the illusion.
The courts are there to establish the truth, not to just prove guilt but also innocence.
His mother said he was an aspiring architect... this was a ckmplete lie why did she not tell the truth that he was a violent gang member. She could have wrongly influenced the jury and thus should be charged with peverting the course of justice. Who lets there child become a gang member at 13. Take some responsibility and admit you were a bad parent
James has lost his sense of reality. He would be one of the first to call the police if he had to deal with one of these criminals.
an is james not supporting the police? so what u on about?
Yeah not really sure what you point is...... 😂😂
how does that makes sense..james is supporting the police so whats your issue?
He'd be on his knees crying, begging to be spared.🤣
I assume from your bizarre comment you have not listened to his comments.
I tried listening to LBC again today but have finally concluded its a waste of time. O'brien seems disappointed that the police officer has been found innocent.
Whilat you are elated that a young Black man lost his life, I take it?
Have you listened to what he said 😂😂😂
what a lie he does not sound like that what so ever..also LBC is a right wing brodcaster an JOB is only one guy
@williamdew7143 his lifestyle got himself shot .
@@fjtpersian6566 Indirectly yes but specifically his actions on that one night got him killed.
The only issue I have with this entire thing is the decision to release the officer's name to the public. It puts him and his family at risk for no reason.
The police officer was doing his job, being a police officer must be the only job whereby you can be protected and go through a trial for doing your job
Not even close lol - ever heard of malpractice lawsuits before, for a start? Police are, however, one of the few jobs where genuine wrongdoers can be protected against all repercussions, including from the public sector.
You know very well that 'I was only obeying orders' is not a defence.
Most people's jobs don't get people killed. If it does they may well end up in court
@@jamesprice4647I wasn't aware that was the defence offered
All talking about the police defence, he was, all like in or not have to believe he was doing what was right at the time any other opinions would require the ability of reading minds the lad in the car was already wanted and was aiming a vehicle at the officer in order to get away there is evidence of this, the officer was cleared of the charge by a jury, all I'm saying is I'm my opinion if I was in that position and someone was driving a car at me then I would have probably done the same thing. If this was the other way round and the officer was shot dead, would anyone be interested of have the same opinion of the situation?
Sorry for your loss James
A decision based on someone's actions and not their skin colour, the family must be devastated.
But....Kaba was black.
He can do no wrong!
James will not be pleased that it is now common knowledge kaba was a prime suspect in a shooting previous week and was a high ranking gang member of a gang responsible for murders dealing etc,
but was he a Brexiteer?
Nonsense. Kaba's identity was not known to Blake when he shot him and that is the key issue here. The question posed for the court was a simple one. Did the behaviour of an unknown black man at the time of the incident justify deadly force being used.
Why would James be unhappy about Kaba's history of criminality?
It makes no difference at all.
@@alibobsmarland9572 A meaningless comment.
@@jmas1219 the car had a marker for firearms, as it was linked to a nightclub incident the week prior where Kaba was involved in a shooting so they would know that whoever was in the car would be either kaba or another just as dangerous gang member hence why the full road was blocked and firearms officers were everywhere, which is not the norm in our country, “ so don’t talk nonsense”,
they knew it was a high chance of being high risk dangerous stop and that turned out true when Kaba tried to use his vehicle as a weapon which is just as dangerous as any gun or knife in that situation, one officer almost got flattened moments before the shot.
Just go watch the body cam and come back and if you still believe that it was unjustified then literally nothing will convince you as it doesn’t suit the narrative you want to push.
@@jmas1219 You got served.
Who remembers James views before today 😂😂😂
I can imagine
Can you fill me in (I wasn't following His comments on this) ? He got huge support for support of Kaba & Hia previous comments on this or....?
i do an he never blamed the cop he said wait on evidence an to more infomation came out so whats yyour point?
Fantastic display of back pedaling here.
By taking him to court in the uk now means you have some guilt. So now that policeman has to live with it. Hope he gets full pay and pension for the rest of his life and let him have a life outside the police force.
It had nothing to do with race
he never said it did
@@simoncox9689 You seem to have missed some of the 'Comments'.
@@simoncox9689 Yes he did. He said that there is Institutional racism in the Met police force.
Oh James. He just can’t relent
It's not for me to say whether the verdict was right or wrong, but we can't let shootings go unscruitinised. Chris Kaba was a criminal, but that isn't the reason Martin Blake was cleared. The question is whether or not he acted to prevent harm to himself or other people, and it appears the court has argued he did do this.
Agreed, and this point is being missed by so many people commenting.
Regardless of Kaba's character or criminal background, a trial was justifiable as there was serious concern that Kaba was executed when other detention methodswere available. (I still believe he was executed, but that's irrelevant)
It's nice to watch James eating his humble pie.
Eat up lad
LBC lefty broadcasting company
See what you done there.😀
If doing your job gets you a trial.
Its difficult to get people into that job.
Are you suggesting that police officers should be above the law. like Trump?
@@jamesprice4647 Context matters, don't attack police officers when you fail fleeing from them.
Exactly. This is why Shipman should never have gone to prison. He was doing an important job as a GP when he killed all those people. Terrible way to treat a doctor.
@@jamesprice4647 no, I was just agreeing with what James said.
Maybe I should expand to say, any time someone dies at the hands of someone else regardless of circumstances, this should be reviewed by peers, even if that means it makes the job difficult, but maybe there are cases where a criminal trial is not the best option. You would have thought for example that the IPCC may have said in this case for example, this shouldn't go to court as in our opinion as an independent body we think this was a justified response.
@@TheWebstaff I get what you're saying but disagree with you on two levels. First it was rather subjective whether or not the police were justified in feeling endangered by Kaba's actions that night (none of them were actually in the path of the Audi) and secondly given the institutional racism in the Met police the faintest sniff of ambiguity needed taking to trial.
Jimmy just waffles on these days
Verbal diaorreah
These days??
@@edwinflower he was ok about 10yrs ago
JOB sets himself up as a political expert, always has done. Now he's a legal expert. A sanctimonious prat! I always know when to turn off LBC, its when he comes on.
That's probably why you have not heard what he said.
He's not making himself out to be a legal expert. He hasn't even given a personal opinion on the facts of the case. He has just said that he has a belief in the justice system.
he has never done that
James, let's imagine for a second that Kaba had driven his large SUV over a police officer's foot (irreversebly damaging his foot), then lost control going over the bumper of one of the cars creating a pin, overturned his car and passed away. Would the police officer still require a trial?
I don't get the point of this question because none of that happened..
@johndene1310 it's called critical thinking, you should try it some time
Of course not. In that circumstance the police would not have been responsible for his death. It is a nonsense scenario that has nothing to do with 'critical thinking' or this case.
@jmas1219 you said it's obvious that the police would be justified in that case. So doesn't it stand to reason that the threat of Kaba's large SUV (directly or indirectly), after being chased by the red and whites, after being pinned and continuing to ignore police instructions, would also justify any police action to keep themselves and the public safe
Haven't watched it yet but O'Brien will probably try to defend him and blame institutional racism poor childhood and upbringing
Probably should watch first to not look foolish.
All were mentioned 😂
Institutional racism apparently.
And isn't that an Irish name too ?
Actually, he says dis ain't bout "sides", take note......
James o'brien seething right about now lol
Seems to be insisting that he is unseething here.
James is always right. If you don't believe me ask james.. 😂😂
I love how at least 35 people have liked the OP despite it obviously not being true. Post-truth world I guess.
@@weswheel4834 Obviously you are right. Obviously.
@@PLl-jr8xi He has a book about being right. I would never question James. 😂
The whole thing is a complete joke. A brave policeman putting himself in danger dealing with a violent criminal, who has been hounded by race baiters, his career in tatters, and is now on the hit list of gangsters for doing his job. The guy and his family need relocated to Australia with new identities at public expense.
This is the cultural enrichment they talk about
Born and bred here m8
@@dougnico2492 diversity is our strength. His lineage in Britain goes back beyond Charlemagne...oh wait
@@dougnico2492 yep and seems we get the same outcome.
The news footage in the street outside with 3 female family members after the acquittal seems highly embarrassing now.
The 🔔-END has spoken.
Your dad just piped up?
JOB…GO SEE A PSYCHIATRIST MATE!
O'Brien talking a load of nothing😂
What else is new. Surprised he didn't say "vote Labour" every 2nd sentence like he did for months leading up to the election.
This is disengenuos, as one of the tests to carry forwards a prosecution is that there is a realistic possibility of a conviction. That there are questions is not enough, on its own, to justify a prosecution. Most likely the CPS, being in possession of all the evidence realised this. However, if they did not prosecute, then this would have turned into accusations of a cover-up, and that could have lead to 0rotests, riots and who knows what. It would certainly have been added to the list of grievances forever.
Thus I suspect that the ethnicity of the dead man was taken into account in the decision to prosecute in the interests of public order. It was thus an exercise in damage limitation. Tough if you are that police officer, as your freedom is dependent on the judgement of twelve people, no matter how strong you believe your defence to be, and he still faces the prospect of disciplinary action.
Justice was served end of.
On the side of justice....calls it a 'failed prosecution'.
The gang can now go after the police officer, well done for releasing his name! What a joke!
The psychological damage of going on trial for crime you never committed. Is sickening
jimmy is on the side of jimmy only
Wrong. Those who are on the side of themselves only are the likes of Farage and Rees Mogg.
Does anybody understand what Mr O'Brien is trying to say?
I do
Even o brexit doesn’t know what he’s saying. It’s He’s usual hungover rambling.
No, never do... He's a toxic fool...
No
But I wasn’t public school educated 🤣
Never. He's seething because the policeman was found not guilty. Bang went 0''brien's boring rant.
But but but,we are oppressed and sheeezzzztt, pay us
you should have looked at the video and seen that the policeman was defending himself from a vehicle driving at him. and you should have looked at the history of the criminal driver. no trial required.
LBC ON THE WRONG SIDE AGAIN 😂😂😂
How, JOB said he didn't think this was an unjustified act of police brutality
how? you believe the police where wrong then?
The names of those making the decisions to bring this case to trial need to be revealed both in the CPS and IOPC. They should also publicly explain the exact reasoning behind their decisions. They need to regain public trust in the system or continue with the unacceptable situation of public opinion being at odds with the criminal justice system.
It’s ridiculous they even thought about charging the officer
They had to - No choice.
Why? As revolting a character as Kaba was his identity was unknown to Blake when he shot him. Are you in favour of the Met Police shooting unarmed suspects whenever they feel like it? Are you seriously that sure that all police officers are angels in blue?
No its no ridiculous.
The police didn't know who was driving the car, or know anything about Kaba.
To run into the path of a fleeing car and claiming your life is in danger is questionable.
That is a trap that American police use to get the opportunity to shoot.
The path of the fleeing car was blocked before the car turned into the street, with armed police set up to stop the car. He decided to drive straight at it and ram back and forward when any normal person would have stopped and complied (without armed police presence). Should they have cleared a path for Kaba to escape possibly causing a police chase endangering the public?
Even if we ignore everything we know about Kaba now, this should never have gone to trial in normal circumstances because the level of evidence was insufficient for a probable conviction which is the supposed criteria for proceeding with prosecution.
We’ve all seen him ram his car back and forward and put the officers in danger. The reason this trial happened was to appease the minority of black people and the middle class white people who LOVE to protest “injustice” who blame the police every time.
It is comforting that many people of all races agree that he was putting armed officers in a situation to shoot by ramming the cars and potentially running over a police officer had he continued. Anyone who can’t see this should not be taken seriously
Should never of gone to court. James talking nonsense as usual.
So you are in possession of the full facts of the case and are able to make an objective judgement.
You aren't, are you?
@@jamesprice4647 I find that the people who spout nonsense very rarely actually look at the facts. They tend to "listen" for the first few seconds, or not at all, and then formulate their opinion not based on facts but by emotions. 🤷♂️
@@zealottk i listened to the whole clip.
JOBsworth is really having a hard time with reality now days. He's still doing his best though. # Carl beach
@@jamesprice4647 A leading gang member who shot someone just days prior was stopped by armed police and then tried to drive off almost running some of them over.
Do you need more facts?
James is deluded clueless and needs sacking immediately
u should probably actually watch the video
@@jonathanbennet2580 you should probably watch some more of his videos!
@@Bushwacker-mb6hw spending my time being professionally outranged seems like a waste of my life
Tuned in accidentally 5 seconds enough.Bye!
Well he said exactly what you thought he was going to say.
James stop lying
Would we every have learned about Chris Kaba's criminality if Martyn Blake hadn't been acquitted?
We would have had the army on the streets today they were on standby The police in London were all going to hand their weapons in as it’s voluntary to carry arms
@@davidpearson243 last time when they had troops/soldiers in liverpool in 1920s,innocent person was shot
Yes we would have. It was only withheld so as not to prejudice the jury before the verdict was reached. That is standard procedure in court, even in magistrates' court.
@@PaulRumbold-wk5re Thank goodness Churchill isn’t in charge anymore as it would happen again
Officer should never have been named, are paramedics and firemen held to the same public scrutiny if something goes wrong? No is the answer so why this media circus.
O'brien is that lettuce thats been in the fridge for 5 days.
He's absolutely lost the plot.
O brian
Shut up
almost choking on his own bias which has been proven wrong ,beautiful to see
how so? want to explain or just male baseless claims?
James O'Brien is almost always right, aspecially when it comes to Brexit and the likes of Farage and Rees Mogg.
The trial appeared to be appropriate. But why his identity was revealed when the judge knew the background of Kaba is completely beyond me.
Another OB nauseating monologue....................
Tip toeing here cos he simply can’t say it straight.
Anyone judging the police officer has probably never done anything in their lives remotely as dangerous as confronting gangsters with a history of firearms offences, but those people have the audacity to think they know what to do in that situation better than trained firearms officers where they have to make a split second decision. I'm so glad he was acquited and this country is safer as a result.
And the Sgt's life is now arguably forever in danger of revenge because he name was revealed by the judge for some bewildering reason.
A black person could bludgeon a kid to death in broad daylight and some "activists" would defend their innocence solely because they're black. That's the reality of some people's minds.
We all know why it was taken to court. The police were covering themselves. The officer was sacrificed. If all this criminal's ancestors were born in Britain, the case wouldn't have been brought to trial. The release of the body-cam footage to the public would be enough for most people. But it has to be played out differently because of...we all know.
I don't, please explain
We do not 'all know'.
2 tier justice system..............if Kaba had been white ......all this gangland hitman background would have been leaked to the media .......and no officer charged.
@@jamesprice4647 All I'm saying is that no one would know anything about this incident if the criminal didn't have exotic ancestry. The cam-footage would be proof enough that a legal procedure took place.
@@76ToneCrome
_Exotic ancestry,_ what's that?