Thanks for making my day just a little bit better. The algorithm randomly sent me one of your videos a couple of weeks back and you reignited my interest in SC2!
I always felt the 3-4 BC hit squad targeting outer bases then jumping back is incredibly undervalued. If a terran who's better at multitasking would do that (and not overbuild like that), I'm sure it would be a constant problem. In later game, only the outer bases are mining and they need to be kept alive but also quite hard to defend, BCs are perfect to take those out over and over again and the zerg even needs like 12 corruptors to deal with those which is basically dead supply in a ground fight. Not sure if the investment is worth it, but as one can see, T by far doesn't use all the tools in their kit at all and still are dominating the tournaments while serral used everything zerg has for the longest time and has a hard time lol.
Gumiho while being a really good player is also the terran who stand out with his crazy strategies, unit composition and build order. Probably my favourite terran player at the moment.
I had to click this immediately because I know how much Reynor LOVES this Terran playstyle lol Edit: I have been disappointed that he didn’t call out Gumiho for the turtling
Keep up the good work. I don’t even play this game. Used to play brood war and I refuse to build a rig for this game because I know I will not go to sleep on a work night. BRENDAAAAAA! MY FLABBER IS GASTED!
Just as Winter mentioned 5sec later, he did not control them. When a unit takes dmg and cant fight back (medivac ofc, but also for example cloacked units without detection) the unit just runs away from the source. In this case the medivacs all took dmg from the para-bomb and flew away from the source (the medivac with the spell on it)
I like the idea but Gumiho definitely needs to refine the strat. Definitely needed more vehicle weapons upgrades and maybe some hellbats/mines to soften the attacks.
How so? Camping used to win, this time it lost. hard. the patch can't force you to stop camping, all it can do is ensure that you lose if you play that way.
@@TysonJensen oh yeah I shouldve rephrased to say there is still camping. As in if the patch notes is gonna say to reduce camping play but like it looks like it didn’t really change anything.
@@bluerules4 Have you noticed that there's significantly fewer turtling games on the new patch? The new patch and map pool reduced the effectiveness of turtling a lot, and it seems a lot of pros are leaning into playing less turtle as well.
Can someone give me at least 1 example in the past years where terran did nothing for whole game and let zerg get everything with max supply and 10k+ bank and win the game by outrading like 1:5? It litteraly NEVER wins. Why do pros keep playing it. Makes no sense to me.
The game is becoming hot garbage now, Zerg (and Protoss) keep getting gutted while Terran keeps getting buffed. Thors and Ghosts have zero counters now with the repeated brood lord and disruptor nerfs, the seige-breaker units that were designed to solve this problem. The Terran can just sit behind his planetary fortress with these busted units forever and basically play tower defense. They also made Skytoss even worse to deal with for the Zerg 'cause why not, as it doesn't effect Terran, while PvT remains unwinnable for Protoss as ghosts can still delete half their army's hp in seconds and make high templar useless. Further, in the last patch, they made turrets and sensor towers salvageable, and added a feature to heal bunkers instantly to further help Terrans turtle, even though the supposed purpose of the patch was to prevent turtling. The Balance Council is killing this game with their bias for Terran.
Did I mention my ad limit is 30 seconds? Anything longer; I skip. 30 seconds or less; I play to get Winter some money. I've seen hour long ads for a 30-minute video; I skip and laugh at those.
Yeah of course its Gumiho, no one in the terran top 10 fits BCs and Nukes on the title I guess TY also but he retired SC2 for greener pastures (SCBW) 😢
I still think it's silly that you're just allowed to get a higher army supply as terran because of mules. It's so imbalanced. Zerg can't afford to free up 60 free supply
ah yes, because being able to bank 10,000 mineral because you get a speed bonus from your map hack mechanic to defend your 10 expansions you got to take for free.
Guess i get to look forward to the next zerg nerf... again... Again... Have we ever gotten a buff?... I can't even remember one in WoL... except when they gaslit us into trying to tell us the infestor change was a "buff"...
I saw the title and immediately knew the Terran was Gumiho. Only reason I'm watching a 'turtle terran'. Well also the whole 'battlecruiser' thing.
24:21 "misted the marines" love it!
Seeing gumiho has trained me to expect battle cruisers like a dog and a treat. Damn you winter
Thanks for making my day just a little bit better. The algorithm randomly sent me one of your videos a couple of weeks back and you reignited my interest in SC2!
Remember when the patch came out and they said they were wanting to nerf turtle terran and they buffed it instead. Good times
ah yes i remember it like it was yesterday
I always felt the 3-4 BC hit squad targeting outer bases then jumping back is incredibly undervalued. If a terran who's better at multitasking would do that (and not overbuild like that), I'm sure it would be a constant problem. In later game, only the outer bases are mining and they need to be kept alive but also quite hard to defend, BCs are perfect to take those out over and over again and the zerg even needs like 12 corruptors to deal with those which is basically dead supply in a ground fight. Not sure if the investment is worth it, but as one can see, T by far doesn't use all the tools in their kit at all and still are dominating the tournaments while serral used everything zerg has for the longest time and has a hard time lol.
Gumiho while being a really good player is also the terran who stand out with his crazy strategies, unit composition and build order. Probably my favourite terran player at the moment.
Amazing video, great series, i thoroughly enjoyed it, thank you Winter.
I had to click this immediately because I know how much Reynor LOVES this Terran playstyle lol
Edit: I have been disappointed that he didn’t call out Gumiho for the turtling
When I saw the title I immdiately thought Reynor was playing against uThermal.
26:25 that was criminal 😂😂😂😂😂
Great cast Winter, definitely made my day better brother
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Reynor wins
Came home after terrible day...
see Gumibro game, and winter cast....
Day much much much better!!!!!!
I Honestly just keep watching this to hear the dialogues between susan and brenda
same. That and the fusion core sound.
I just love every cast! Thank u
winters the goat. love you brother
Keep up the good work. I don’t even play this game. Used to play brood war and I refuse to build a rig for this game because I know I will not go to sleep on a work night. BRENDAAAAAA! MY FLABBER IS GASTED!
God, i love gumiho. I wish he'd have more luck with these mass bc plays they are so fun to see
I'm a painter. Your teal color rant was ridiculously on point. 😂
Gumiho is a blessing to us viewers...
How did Gumiho scatter his medivacs so quickly and evenly at 44:12 ?
Just as Winter mentioned 5sec later, he did not control them. When a unit takes dmg and cant fight back (medivac ofc, but also for example cloacked units without detection) the unit just runs away from the source.
In this case the medivacs all took dmg from the para-bomb and flew away from the source (the medivac with the spell on it)
Good games. And excellent casting.
Shouldnt you use Raven with so many BC:s to shred least Corrupters armor?
24:20 so brutal...
Yesssss! More Gumiho!!!
gumiho plays it so fancy
Thank You
Om nom nom
winter is the goat
I like the idea but Gumiho definitely needs to refine the strat. Definitely needed more vehicle weapons upgrades and maybe some hellbats/mines to soften the attacks.
At that point, it won't be an RTS, it'll be Tower Defense lmao.
@@wagoni3505 yea that seems to be what he was going for, Tower defense at home and roaming ships for offense.
I thought the new patch was supposed to reduce camping? Looks like it did nothing.
How so? Camping used to win, this time it lost. hard. the patch can't force you to stop camping, all it can do is ensure that you lose if you play that way.
@@TysonJensen oh yeah I shouldve rephrased to say there is still camping. As in if the patch notes is gonna say to reduce camping play but like it looks like it didn’t really change anything.
@@bluerules4 Have you noticed that there's significantly fewer turtling games on the new patch?
The new patch and map pool reduced the effectiveness of turtling a lot, and it seems a lot of pros are leaning into playing less turtle as well.
Back from my skiing holiday and the first thing I do is watch some StarCraft....what's wrong with me
Nothing
Can someone give me at least 1 example in the past years where terran did nothing for whole game and let zerg get everything with max supply and 10k+ bank and win the game by outrading like 1:5? It litteraly NEVER wins. Why do pros keep playing it. Makes no sense to me.
The game is becoming hot garbage now, Zerg (and Protoss) keep getting gutted while Terran keeps getting buffed. Thors and Ghosts have zero counters now with the repeated brood lord and disruptor nerfs, the seige-breaker units that were designed to solve this problem. The Terran can just sit behind his planetary fortress with these busted units forever and basically play tower defense. They also made Skytoss even worse to deal with for the Zerg 'cause why not, as it doesn't effect Terran, while PvT remains unwinnable for Protoss as ghosts can still delete half their army's hp in seconds and make high templar useless. Further, in the last patch, they made turrets and sensor towers salvageable, and added a feature to heal bunkers instantly to further help Terrans turtle, even though the supposed purpose of the patch was to prevent turtling. The Balance Council is killing this game with their bias for Terran.
@@wagoni3505heal bunkers? Also the turret salvage was removed
@@Goobie_gg Patch 5.0.14: Calldown: Extra Supplies increases the target Supply Depot's current/max health to 500.
Fusion Core Dance spotted: ua-cam.com/video/Vz86hQiQPrg/v-deo.html
Did I mention my ad limit is 30 seconds? Anything longer; I skip. 30 seconds or less; I play to get Winter some money. I've seen hour long ads for a 30-minute video; I skip and laugh at those.
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Yeah of course its Gumiho, no one in the terran top 10 fits BCs and Nukes on the title
I guess TY also but he retired SC2 for greener pastures (SCBW) 😢
I have high, but hopes have nothing to do with it.
Spoiler here, gumiho goes battle cruisers. Wait... lol
I liked the video. Please make another video, even if you still will make a video.
I still think it's silly that you're just allowed to get a higher army supply as terran because of mules. It's so imbalanced. Zerg can't afford to free up 60 free supply
ah yes, because being able to bank 10,000 mineral because you get a speed bonus from your map hack mechanic to defend your 10 expansions you got to take for free.
Guess i get to look forward to the next zerg nerf... again...
Again...
Have we ever gotten a buff?... I can't even remember one in WoL... except when they gaslit us into trying to tell us the infestor change was a "buff"...
does zerg even need a buff at this point?
I’m doing my part 🫡
Why is Susan so mean to Brenda?
there's only 1.4k likes... not 1 thousand 5..... lol
GUMIHO IS THE GOAT
Ha maybe someone read my reynor comment
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**Rick rolled.**
I hit that sucribe button everytime you mention it i sub so hard it unsubs me😢😢
Enjoyable matches, disappointing outcome.
I'm still subscribed, but I did not like that.
Which part did you dislike the most? The part where who asked or the part where nobody cares?