Is it WORTHY of the M BADGE? 2015 BMW M235i - Raiti's Rides
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- BMW is known for the high performance of their M branding of cars. This 2015 M235i might not be a full blown M car but it does have a nice balance of performance, style, and price. Check out more of what this 2015 BMW M235i has to offer.
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the walker ford sticker on back!? this poor car needs to be saved from these savages
nodnar3 C mist dealers are going to put their logo sticker on the tail of a car. All dealers I’ve dealt with take it off if requested.
Twin Scroll turbo. Two scrolls to reduce turbo lag. They’ve been doing this for awhile even on the Mini Cooper S. Second the car does have an M Adaptive Suspension and M Sport Breaks. Same as M2. Their are different options you can order on brakes but the brakes on this car are a huge step up from any other. Yes it’s not a M2 but it does deserve the M badge. Uses the same engine as an M2. M2 does step things up and yes it’s more of a track car. The M235i is more balanced.
You said a lot of things right about the car but got a few things wrong that should definitely be noted. It has more and common with the M2 then you let on.
But the M2 is tuned a bit different does have some differences and will be faster. The funny thing is that ZF8 Automatic in the M235i might beat a Manual M2. That ZF8 is an option on the M2 but it’s one hell of a transmission. It can definitely shift.
It’s also worth noting that the M235i came out before the M2. It was kinda the preview car of what the M2 was going to be like but it’s their to kinda replace the 135i that we all loved and missed.
It does get confusing. But BMW didn’t mess anything up. You can get M Parts or Packages on any BMW. But any car that has the M in front of the single number that’s the staple. Any car that has the M in front of the numbers that’s got enough in common with the staple and maybe some different options to be worthy of the M Badge.
If you buy a 435i with all the m packages the door sills will say M. Not M2 or M235i or M4. It denotes the fact this car has M packages but is not an M Car.
We also have a BMW M8 and an M850. It’s the same thing the M8 is the staple. 850 has enough in common to get the M badge but maybe ordered with different options.
The M850 is 20k cheaper than the M8 but you can package it differently.
Same went with M235i and M2 generally 5-10k less depending on used or new.
Long comment but any car that has an M in its model number is definitely worthy of the badge.
Typically the staple is the better car but certain options may be available on an M850 rather than an M8. Or maybe someone dosent want to go the full distance of the M8 or aggressiveness. Save some money get the m850i your close enough.
BMW started doing this awhile ago. It creates a different price point allows for more options and still gives the customer the satisfaction of owning an M Car. I’ll bet it does help their margins too. An M235i could produce the power of an M2. All you need is a tune and about $500.
So for short we have BMWs and then BMWs with M packages or parts and then we have the M cars , the M# always being the staple a and then the M### that is cheaper but close and may be able to be packaged differently. That’s kinda the way they do it.
Thanks for sharing your input and perspective! I appreciate you watching!
Great comment my M235i was getting offended I say I have an M235i not I have a 235i
Great review Joe, It's good to see BMW getting back in the game. The new M5 is a weapon, for awhile there in the early 2000's they got really boring but it looks like its changing. I would get a BMW but one of the main issues is depreciation, you loose almost half the worth of the car in the first year its crazy and the fact they don't budge on pricing and no trade-in seems to be worthy of a decent drop in price. They are real sticklers here in Australia lol, Thanks again. Cheers!
Adam Randell thanks for your amazing feedback as usual. We have sticklers here in the States as well. 😉
Add an MHD stage 1 tune on these and they’ll beat a stock M2. My 2016 m235ixdrive pushing 340whp and 393wtq now after the tune, doing 0-60 in 3.9-4.0 seconds.
So very true!
Sweet I like it. Nice review! Great job as always Joe
Double G I’m so glad you enjoyed it!
Great video. Very informative. Thanks a lot!!
This might not be a real M car, but make no mistake that this car is no slouch. This and the regular 235i are two different cars. This M235I has the N55 i6 engine that is very tunable. Also, this ZF 8 speed shifts fast for a torque converter unit. The 2017 is even better with the B58 engine.
There is no regular 235i. The only Bmw with 235i in its name is the m235i...
Also the “2017 model” is a m240i. Not a m235i..
Nice Pumas.... :D Just got some Zoom Pegasus 35 shoes.... so good.
alphazoom II thanks man! Those are nice! I need to get a pair!
My favourite brand.
Bruce Kendall they make some great cars!
My uncle has one of these. He ripped it on the track
They handle really well!
Absolutely worthy of the M badge. This is like a Toyota Yaris with a v6 300+ engine.
jorge irizarry very interesting analogy!
What's a standard 235? doesn't exist.
bmw made plane engines for germany during the world wars the white on the logo represents the propellers and blue is the sky
320 hp, 4.8
Thanks for the info!
The emblem is supposed to be an homage to BMW’s connection to the airplane industry. The logo is a propeller against a blue sky. 2. BMW uses twin power to market their Twin-Scroll turbo which is more efficient and is more tune-able than older pneumatic waste-gate variants. It’s not to “trick” anyone into anything because when they do make twin turbo cars (N54) they don’t make a big deal about marketing the turbos this was marketing new technology. It’s not their fault people don’t read the basic info. The brakes are from and some of the suspension parts are not standard their taken from M division and the M235 shares some suspension parts with the M3/4. Randy Pobst called it one of the best bmw’s in the past ten year when it came out. You don’t know what this car is… This was not a very good review it’s only good to people that don’t know anything so you can tell them anything.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this one.
This made me cringe... a lot of this he was wrong lmaooo
You're wrong about the breaks being standard, I have one of these and have parked it next to an M badged 230i and the discs and calipers are much bigger on the M235i.
The M235i is definitely worthy of the M badge, it's less than a second slower than the M2 0-60mph, so kinda makes buying an M2 a mugs game really.
The 228, 230 and diesel m badged 2 series are not worthy and are just a M-arketing ploy.
The 228i and 230i aren’t M badged. Those blue “upgraded” brakes are standard on the m235i and m240i. You can get them as an option on the 228i and 230i. Once again there is no M designation on the 228i and 230i.
@@scottl8416 I think he means the M line badged cars. However unless there is a big M Infront of the model number it's not an M car but a M-arketing ploy, like the Audi S Line, the Ford ST line etc....lower spec non-performence cars given some of the aggressive looks or just painted calipers of the real performance badges to sell them.
How can you review this car without cornering int😂
I use what I have a my disposal.
It has a twin scroll turbo, that's why they use the terminology "Twin Power".
I totally can understand that, For the majority of the population they don't know anything about turbochargers and I can see how there would be some confusion behind the wording effects. Thanks for your input!
Raiti's Rides they actually declare that twin scroll turbo is more efficient than having 2 turbos. I have that in my e89 and there is almost no lag and it has very linear acceleration. That’s where the twin scroll principle shines.
I think it’d be cool if you just threw in the average price range you should expect to pay for the cars great videos!
TricksterVas that’s a great idea! Thank you for the great suggestion!😊👍🏻
The twin scroll turbo is more efficient giving a stronger flow.
Yes sir you are 100% correct! Thanks for your great info!
It's a great car badge or no badge, M doesn't stand for what it used to. It's more about "M"arketing than anything, they'll put an M badge on anything to sell a car. If I bought one I'd take all the cheesy poseur badges off.
tomtom255 I love your perspective! Thank you fir sharing!
You are wrong. This car has M forged engine components, M adaptive suspension, M bodywork & yes brembo brakes. You should compare this car to the standard non-m 2 series. It is not just a badge. Miss this car very much. Much more refined then my M240i or even X3M. Cant blame you when you research the car for 2 minutes & shoot the review live...
He also messed up the badge history :(
Love the car! Maybe in the future i'll get an M2 instead haha. Bit of advice! You should consider a better quality mic. Tends to b too quiet at times and then suddenly loud. Also work on smoother transitions! Some cuts are just wayyy to abrupt. As usual though, love your content and can't wait to see where it ll leads!
Imlikethemoviesh thank you for the feedback! Great news! I have a new camera and wireless mic coming. I want to put out a great product. Stay tuned for more!😊👍🏻
Awesome!! Will eagerly standby waiting!
Imlikethemoviesh thank you for sticking with me!
there's no standard 235i, there's the upgraded M235i and the base model 228i
which would you go for 2016 m235i with 90k or 2020 Veloster N w/30k....
A may be a little bias owning a 240i but I spend 3 month of my calendar year in the US. I can say these small rwd's are better fun around the narrow twisty roads you would find in abundance in Europe.
Carl Price I totally believe it!
Bavarian flag? Isn’t their logo supposed to be an air plane propeller because of their history in aeronautics?
That is what I thought for many years, but it is an old wives tale.
It has twin scroll turbo , meaning two scrolls in one turbo which helps suck in more air ... FYI
5yrs later… realizing he really botched this car review 😬
Stock Has 320hp not 335
Joe H thanks for the additional info and for watching!
I love this car, seriously. I’ve had my 2016 xDrive version of the M235i N55 motor for a couple years now, running a stage 1 tune with bolt ons making probably producing Supra or modern B58 (380hp) at least! I love hearing what great things people say about this pocket rocket, especially the one and only Joey R. I’ve done track days in it, nothing but a blast. If you’re hesitant about getting one, don’t be! 🔥🤘🏻
That is so very cool! Thanks for sharing that!
I plan to buy one tomorrow does it come with apple car play?
Black ice sorry I’m like 7 months and 3 weeks late lol, but no the m235 which was discontinued in 2016 for the m240i does not have apple car play or android auto, that didn’t come out until 2017 for most bmw models. But you can always change the infotainment screen which is very simple and add a backup camera too.
@Black!ce no the m235 which was discontinued in 2016 for the m240i does not have apple car play or android auto, that didn’t come out until 2017 for most bmw models. But you can always change the infotainment screen which is very simple and add a backup camera too.
Looked at on there a nasty car but my local bmw wouldnt budge on price and trade
InfoumusMOBB yeah I also once looked at these and had the same experience. I was surprised because it wasn’t an M2!
This car is severely overhated. I love this car.
The car is beautiful but those wheels are too small
I just found this channel and been going through current videos. I searched for this car specifically because I'm looking for one and wow, my man has came a long way since 2018.
Thanks for finding us and taking the time to watch!
Great review! I have a 2014 m235i bought it first year it was released and i’m still having a blast driving it to this day!
Corey Gonzales have you had any problems with it?
Looking at buying one. Have you have any issues Corey?
@@alh06 bmw bimmer forums
Can you do a few Retro reviews? Then I’ll subscribe 😁😁
Will do!
@@RaitisRides and subscribed so I won't miss them
German auto tuner ac schnitzer completed the Nurburgring in 7min25sec in a modified version in one of these. Thing is a weapon and a highly capable platform.
I definitely don't think they have good sound deadening. I have a 13 328i luxury and you can hear outside of it quite a bit. Wind, etc.
Twin Power = Twin Scroll
alphazoom II yes sir! You’d be surprised how man people think it means TwinTurbo. There is actually a class action lawsuit against BMW. Supposedly they did it on purpose.
m235 started in 2014 not 2015 👍
Another great video Joe! Joe it might be helpful as other UA-camrs like yourself is to post a “suggested price” range for the year and vehicle your reviewing. Another site actually post the price of all models on the car he is reviewing. Just a suggestion. Great video! 👍
NHseacoast I appreciate your kind words! I appreciate the suggestion and will do that in the future! Thanks for watching!😊👍🏻
I almost nabbed a mint 228I M sport. Sadly I was outbid.
alphazoom II what gearbox did it have?
It had the 8 speed auto. But I wanted the auto in that car. I drove the manual and auto and preferred the ZF auto.
alphazoom II it’s very fast shifting!
Yea I liked it. It drove very nice..... even the 228I with the turbo 4 was fun.
alphazoom II oh I can imagine! 😎
please do not do anymore BMW reviews until you educate yourself on BMW's, you made so many mistakes on this car.
I had one, A 2016 ZF8 speed. It was a nice car, but it did not stir my soul. I traded it for a GT350....... which absolutely does stir my soul.
chris now that is a change! I want a GT350 very very very badly!
Raiti's Rides It really is. I had a Cayman S and got the 235 and was really let down. Had it almost 2 years and barely put 3000 miles on it. I'm still breaking in the Shelby with 760 miles currently. At 1,000 miles I'll change the oil and then let her rip. I'm near Leesburg, we should hook up sometime.
chris that would be great! What color did you get?
Raiti's Rides Joe, I got the race red with white stripes......I De-Striped it within 36 hours of ownership. Being a detailer, I just couldn't stand the vinyl stickers
chris race red is gorgeous! I’m surprised they don’t clear over the stripes.
Loved this car. Wanted something in the same price bracket (around 20k) but different than all the BRZs, 370zs, g37s out there. You literally throw a tune on here and BOOM 60 more WHP!
Wow really??
I currently drive a Lexus and planning to purchase one just for fun
@@leojohnwayne1422 yessir, turbo'd inline 6s are crazy when tuned. If you can, I highly recommend saving a little more for the m240i, those things can get FAST with minimal modding
@@seollenda really? How much do they go for?
I want a used one. What to look for?
@@leojohnwayne1422 so m235 goes for around $18k-$26k depending on condition, m240 you can find $30-35k depending on condition
@@seollenda I don’t know where you’re located, but the vast majority of M235is here in Texas go from 24-30k, and M240is are over 35k used
the m2 has the same seats as the m235i.
brandon castellanos really? That’s surprising. Thank you for sharing your input.
Yeah your right
You every get to drive it on track?
Sweet brother but it's not my favorite, m2 is my favorite
Morris Pontifect I live the M2! Stay tuned because I have one coming soon!
The twin is referring to twin scroll turbo.
Great review! Love this design
knocked it out of the park yet again. Great job, really love watching your channel Joe
Lori Givens I’m so glad you are enjoying it!
you not gonna shift faster than the computer.
This is a real single turbo V6 is a beast !!
I gotta zonk you on the mic quality
"is it worthy of the M badge" ... lol, ok...hey, why don't you go tell the BMW engineers that decided on the "M" in the name what your opinion is. I am sure they are just WAITING to hear what you think, mr. you-tuber. lol.
Great review, keep them coming.
Thank you so much for saying that! It really means a lot!
It’s twin scrolls single turbo
Thanks for the info.
Love driving mine!stage 1 way better than stock!
Go stage 2+ The difference between stage 1 -> stage 2+ is much bigger than from stock -> stage 1, at least on the butt dyno! You should already have upgraded charge pipes so all you will need to upgrade (besides preventative maintenance) is your FMIC and downpipe--I always buy from VRSF, super high quality and low prices. I also recommend changing your spark plugs and gapping them one step colder to account for the increased power--I like NGK. For your intake, the stock one is fine, only difference you'll get from aftermarket is the turbo noise. Good luck! :^)
@@kylesmith9048 thanx bro!!!!so i have the bm3 tune stage 1 with and air intake from burger motorsports!i just ordered the charge pipe from vrsf so im gonna install that this week!Now my next step, catted downpipe or catless???!!🤔
You made a nice review but ur wrong about the logo, it’s because in the world war they made planes and motorcycles the blue and white is supposed to look like a rotating propeller on a plane and it’s called a twin scroll turbo.
Correction: The BMW badge represents a Spinning Airplane Propeller. BMW has its roots in Aircraft manufacturing, it does not have anything to do with the German Flag...
actually no, that's a common misconception; BMW even says it on its website that it's taken from the Bavarian flag
I really like the new M2 but my goal is a new Toyota Supra.
amill1563 the new Supra is going to be nice but the price is a let down.
Just bought one and wrapped it in Gloss Orange. Looks really good, car is a beast 👌🏼
Thanks for sharing your input and perspective! I really appreciate you watching!
Any major issues till now ?
Where can I see some pics of it?
There's only one way to go with this car and it has to have the x-Drive other than that it's not worth buying!
0-60 4.2sec ? Humm more like 4.8-5.0 sec
Single twin scroll turbo, bruh you gotta learn about cars before u make videos this is dissapointing