You made the right choice. A Golf R is a safe, AWD, characterless, box. It's for people who love traffic light racing. An M235, M135i, M140i, or M240i, are drivers cars, for cornering FUN. Hopefully you can upgrade to an OG M2 eventually. I bought one, and it is on another level mate seriously, unreal car. My previous car was an m140i running 455bhp/634nm, but no matter how much I spent, no matter how many mods, it would never be a real M car.
Okay, so my 2016 that I just bought (because I couldn’t find a type R) mine has the heated seats and all that. It’s also a convertible… 6speed manual transmission. I absolutely LOVE it. Enjoy my man
14:00 Yes!!!! THIS right here. BMW really f*cked up on that. The conical plastic insert to that hose on the port side cracked on me, too. BS to go through so much trouble for something that really has no business breaking, because it's so simple. Recommend everybody change it out themselves every 50k miles, or pay beaucoup buck$ to get it replaced in a pinch. I'm off and on looking for some type of metallic barb plug/silicon hose upgrade. But, it isn't exactly the most frequently marketed thing, like a straight pipe or an intercooler upgrade. So, no luck yet.🤷🏾♂️
going to be looking at one of these here in the states next weekend. asking price is 23k with 72,000 miles on the clock. I'm paying cash and with the current state of used cars its going to be interesting haggling the price down. Gosh I can't wait.
I’m looking at the 2021 for 44k and it has 3,500 miles I want to take a lot of road trips and daily do you think I can get 150k miles without major issues ?
The m performance exhaust ain’t valved btw I have it fitted the open/closed flap wire is capped off where as the standard system it opens and shuts, when you go sports or sports plus that’s the car making it pop not the exhaust
I think you’re confusing limited slip differential with a locking diff. Limited slip differential transfers torque to whatever tire needs the most traction and increases handling and stability, many awd systems employ an lsd including bmw’s xdrive system and Subaru’s symmetrical awd, while a locking differential does exactly what it says “locks diff”. only allowing the tires to spin in tandem on either side of the axle which is great for traction in rough terrain but not going to improve your performance in and out of corners like an lsd would.
Really wondering if its worth it, have traction issues since day one, tuned it and it got much worse, have 255/35 in the back and it will still light them up.
@@webhito imo worth every penny, I love the traction losses when I want, like powerslide. This is pro and cons of powerful RWD. Trust me, the lsd going to solve traction troubles in a impressive way, I test it on my old (dot 2016) Michelin super sport in wet, cold conditions. After the lsd you will need a more planted front axle, with just M4 LCA AND TS, improve camber and caster.
I had an m235i manual and it’s a good car, the only thing that annoys me is that manual right hand drives have the pedals offset so you’re sitting with your legs diagonally
Drove a 2016 M235 and a Golf GTI not the R though. I would definitely get the BMW over the Golf. Steering is better, both balanced cars but 3.0T is killer choice, 2.0t is strong enough to push a shopping cart and no more.
i am close to buying either of these. Looks wise, both are fanstastic. I will have to test drive both. I once drove M235i briefly, but can't even remember much other than it was fast but interior was step backwards from E92 (it was small nav+no HK). So , I will have to buy high spec car, which is much more expensive and hard to find ...
No cruise control??? I thought everything had cruise control, especially a BMW of any spec lol. My old and super basic 2008 328i 6spd has cruise control. Also, a few months ago, my plastic coolant hose cracked and steam was rolling from the hood. Pulled over, had to get a tow to a shop. I was so relieved it was that cheap plastic part and that the engine hadn't just blew up like I was thinking in the moment haha.
No one has ever been able to answer this question for me. Certain m235 / m240i have that more aggressive lower front end with those 2 black extra lips on each side of the front bumper. And on many of them it's not there. Is it some type of m sport aero kit That was optional from the factory?
Yeah, it’s part of the M-Performance kit. Also comes with some carbon bits (mirrors and spoiler) as well as a different exhaust and of course the diff!
Thanks for the vid, but it doesn't sound like you know what you r talking about. It sounds like u like the VW quite a bit. The VW Golf R and S3 are safer than the RWD BMW. But, the xDrive versions are probably as safe/better, as BMW says xDrive is meant to make driving safe. Adui/VW already has quattro, etc. so safety was already there, so they tuned them to drive nuts without ending up in a ditch, like a Mustang does. What about maintenance, problems, dislikes, ??
Yeah, but the rwd m235i is more fun, has better fuel mileage, comes with a stick, and weighs less than the xdrive. If you live in wintery climates, drive a second car during the winter or get snow tires. Also, shitty drivers put cars in ditches. Regardless of rwd vs awd.
@@trevor4533 true. But with all the weather patterns, it's nice to have a AWD/4WD vehicle that is very capable. The snow tires isn't going to help much in 2 feet of snow. Having a banger for the snow is OK. Something cheap. like a RAV4
N55 is reliable, drove mine over 140k mi and still running mint. People need to know it's not a Toyota, don't neglect it, preventative maintenance is the key.
@@infidel900rr The N55 is one of the most reliable from BMW.. But is extremely problematic and plagued with German engineering of plastics throughout the engine and engine bay that begin to fail regularly at 50 thousand miles... I have spent many countless hours working on these vehicles. If you got 150 thousand miles without dropping buckets of cash You are one of few.
This guy just puts off mad vibes, absolute legend don’t care what it’s about!
An absolute legend? Talking about his car and think his car has an N54 engine, obviously don’t even know difference between an N54 and a N55 🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂
That is the best wheel set I've seen on an F22; looks amazing.
Damn I think it looks so damn good in white. I would say I personally like it white over black
It's a N55 not n54 mate
They are similar
@@Imculk909 Not at all.
You made the right choice.
A Golf R is a safe, AWD, characterless, box.
It's for people who love traffic light racing.
An M235, M135i, M140i, or M240i, are drivers cars, for cornering FUN.
Hopefully you can upgrade to an OG M2 eventually. I bought one, and it is on another level mate seriously, unreal car. My previous car was an m140i running 455bhp/634nm, but no matter how much I spent, no matter how many mods, it would never be a real M car.
I drove the M235i and the Golf R, and went for the Golf. The BMW is good in the dry; it's fucking hopeless in the wet.
@@themancuniancandidate2744 What you mean is, your driving skills regarding a RWD are fucking hopeless in the wet lol 🙂
Okay, so my 2016 that I just bought (because I couldn’t find a type R) mine has the heated seats and all that. It’s also a convertible… 6speed manual transmission. I absolutely LOVE it. Enjoy my man
Now u have a real car😍
Hahaahh
$40k car = not real car 😒
LMAO 🤣🤣💥
love that u bought it for the love of the vehicle not just for the aesthetics (which i don't mind imo)
14:00 Yes!!!! THIS right here. BMW really f*cked up on that. The conical plastic insert to that hose on the port side cracked on me, too. BS to go through so much trouble for something that really has no business breaking, because it's so simple. Recommend everybody change it out themselves every 50k miles, or pay beaucoup buck$ to get it replaced in a pinch.
I'm off and on looking for some type of metallic barb plug/silicon hose upgrade. But, it isn't exactly the most frequently marketed thing, like a straight pipe or an intercooler upgrade. So, no luck yet.🤷🏾♂️
Bought one last month. Other than fuel costs I'll never look back! Best car I've owned.
That hose break on my 2015 M235 last week after 135.000km, replacing @100.000 km is not a bad idea.
I've got the same car same colour same carbon splitter and spoiler, never owned a car as long, don't think I'll ever get rid of it, I love it.
Welcome, nice finally stepping up to RWD MT
going to be looking at one of these here in the states next weekend. asking price is 23k with 72,000 miles on the clock. I'm paying cash and with the current state of used cars its going to be interesting haggling the price down. Gosh I can't wait.
I’m looking at the 2021 for 44k and it has 3,500 miles I want to take a lot of road trips and daily do you think I can get 150k miles without major issues ?
@@atlantaogatlantaoh3546yes
Are you sure it has a locking diff, it was a special option, there never was a m performance edition, you can buy all those options separately..
This dude is a noob
The m performance exhaust ain’t valved btw I have it fitted the open/closed flap wire is capped off where as the standard system it opens and shuts, when you go sports or sports plus that’s the car making it pop not the exhaust
Good vid! Gave me some clarity I needed on the getting the m235i🙏
I think you’re confusing limited slip differential with a locking diff. Limited slip differential transfers torque to whatever tire needs the most traction and increases handling and stability, many awd systems employ an lsd including bmw’s xdrive system and Subaru’s symmetrical awd, while a locking differential does exactly what it says “locks diff”. only allowing the tires to spin in tandem on either side of the axle which is great for traction in rough terrain but not going to improve your performance in and out of corners like an lsd would.
I think you’re right @seanpoore500. I think he meant to say LSD too.
However an ELD on a RWD M235i sounds like a dream for drifting.
Same here, n55 EWG manual trans! I suggest you M performance lsd, change the car like day and night
Really wondering if its worth it, have traction issues since day one, tuned it and it got much worse, have 255/35 in the back and it will still light them up.
@@webhito imo worth every penny, I love the traction losses when I want, like powerslide. This is pro and cons of powerful RWD. Trust me, the lsd going to solve traction troubles in a impressive way, I test it on my old (dot 2016) Michelin super sport in wet, cold conditions. After the lsd you will need a more planted front axle, with just M4 LCA AND TS, improve camber and caster.
I had an m235i manual and it’s a good car, the only thing that annoys me is that manual right hand drives have the pedals offset so you’re sitting with your legs diagonally
Love having you reviewing cars... a natural 🙌
Thank you! If you want to see more of them be sure to check out the DoneDeal UA-cam channel. We just did one on the new GTI and it’s very good 🤗
@@DavidOCaoimhWakeboarder done, subscribed 🙌
Drove a 2016 M235 and a Golf GTI not the R though. I would definitely get the BMW over the Golf. Steering is better, both balanced cars but 3.0T is killer choice, 2.0t is strong enough to push a shopping cart and no more.
Carbon fiber bits really kills it just a lil more black and yea killa 🚗....👍💯💪
Thought about getting it wrapped black?
I have the chance to get in one rt now hopefully it’s mine
I mean I like the massive over boost u get from the turbo even if there’s some wheel spin
I did exactly the same thing the Golf R just isn't as nice to drive and you cannot hang the tail out
I have a mk6 GTI & I’m planning on trading in to make the m235i my daily driver. Awesome video bro
Yo wth!! I used to watch you on Instagram like 5 years ago! i never expected a car review from you on my dream car
What wheels are they?
I love the m235i but I ended up getting the 4 series but whenever I see them on the road I feel like I made a mistake sometimes
i am close to buying either of these. Looks wise, both are fanstastic. I will have to test drive both. I once drove M235i briefly, but can't even remember much other than it was fast but interior was step backwards from E92 (it was small nav+no HK). So , I will have to buy high spec car, which is much more expensive and hard to find ...
That's how I feel when I see an m2 or an e92 m3.
the 4 series is still cool you get a nicer interior and better engine but yeah definitely not as good looking subjectively
@@Toymonkeyjr how is it a better engine ?
No cruise control??? I thought everything had cruise control, especially a BMW of any spec lol. My old and super basic 2008 328i 6spd has cruise control. Also, a few months ago, my plastic coolant hose cracked and steam was rolling from the hood. Pulled over, had to get a tow to a shop. I was so relieved it was that cheap plastic part and that the engine hadn't just blew up like I was thinking in the moment haha.
What wheels are you running?
No one has ever been able to answer this question for me. Certain m235 / m240i have that more aggressive lower front end with those 2 black extra lips on each side of the front bumper. And on many of them it's not there.
Is it some type of m sport aero kit That was optional from the factory?
Yeah, it’s part of the M-Performance kit. Also comes with some carbon bits (mirrors and spoiler) as well as a different exhaust and of course the diff!
@@DavidOCaoimhWakeboarder thanks for the reply... I'm curious if all of that is included in the US version.
@@Daveyboy_RS3 ohhh I really don’t know.
Just bought one it’s beautiful
What size are your rims?
Been looking for a good spec m235 for a few months - best places to buy in ireland?
NO CRUISE CONTROL!?!? That can’t be right 🤣
What suspension do you have on this car if you still have it?
what wheel / tyre set up are you running?
what kind of rims are those? I need that for my 2 series!
#M235gang
what car did you end up getting at the end?
Seeing this i already know 15k is well spent
Anybody know what wheels he has on it?
Looking at buying one. Can anyone tell me about comments on the angle of the drivers seat?? Few people have mentioned it’s at a weird angle
Does that model come with the pop and bombs from factory?
Congrats on the new car 🔥
Also, I love your outfit! Care to give details on those aswell?
Thank you!! Hahaha the outfit is just a pair of Nike tracksuit bottoms and a pull and bear hoodie 🤗
So what was the car you ended with after selling the M235i? Your videos do not show any other car?
NM, the air vent gives it away, is a Good R!
What wheels are those? Specs?
Do you think 77,000 miles is a lot for this car ?
No
Yes!
@@ThatGuyNers1 not really lol n55 can go for 200k miles
@@HollowM2 your right. But might as well look for something with less milage. Or go for the 240 with the better engine.
i put asymetric 5 on mine from ps4 and ill never go ps4 again the as5 are farrr better
Sport plus turns off traction control and leaves stability control on.
Thanks for the vid, but it doesn't sound like you know what you r talking about. It sounds like u like the VW quite a bit. The VW Golf R and S3 are safer than the RWD BMW. But, the xDrive versions are probably as safe/better, as BMW says xDrive is meant to make driving safe. Adui/VW already has quattro, etc. so safety was already there, so they tuned them to drive nuts without ending up in a ditch, like a Mustang does.
What about maintenance, problems, dislikes, ??
Yeah, but the rwd m235i is more fun, has better fuel mileage, comes with a stick, and weighs less than the xdrive. If you live in wintery climates, drive a second car during the winter or get snow tires.
Also, shitty drivers put cars in ditches. Regardless of rwd vs awd.
@@trevor4533 true. But with all the weather patterns, it's nice to have a AWD/4WD vehicle that is very capable. The snow tires isn't going to help much in 2 feet of snow. Having a banger for the snow is OK. Something cheap. like a RAV4
@@RobHTech Agreed. If you live in an area with alot of snow, and you can only have one car, awd all the way.
Any one know what wheels they are, look like m2 comp Cs ones and what size they are likely to be ?
Cheers
Congratz to the car.
Can you fit your wakeboard gear? Have some trouble with my e85 here.
Why not m240i
But if I would able to keep both I would have ....😁😎😉
What year ?
Wheels?
What model are those rims? They look great!
Chinese CHS Replicas
I'm picking up a very similar spec but with less miles tomorrow. Curious how much yours was?
“I’ll never take it on the track” unfortunate
Are those wheels stock in the UK? They look like 19 inch BBS CI-R - we get 18 inch wheels in the US
They are Chinese reps
I was thinking about selling my Gen 2 Speed 3 for one of these..
Boi, we takin the same language.
My mk4 got totaled and I’m thinking about getting this or a 1m but I can’t make up my mind :(
If money means anything to you, it's an easy choice.
You said N54 Engine , hmm mmm iss not make sure
Wheel spec?
last 2 cars were manual e46 M3s, kept the last M3 coupe but LOVE the M235i
could never own a FWD car personally
F22 and f23 m235i aren’t fwd. they’re either rwd or x drive.
@@seanpoore500 I was referring to the golf. I have a 16' M235i and 05' M3, ordering am LSD for the M235i
There's not a hot hatch that really comes as a manual ??? lol dafuq
i30n is absolutely amazing imo.
GTI in comparison is very very meh.
I went from golf gti to m3 e46 will never go back with vw 😂
Well, he did 🤣
The m235i will be a true love hate relationship.
Best to start refreshing everything ...or you will be chasing DRIVETRAIN MALFUNCTION CODES ALL DAY.
N55 is reliable, drove mine over 140k mi and still running mint. People need to know it's not a Toyota, don't neglect it, preventative maintenance is the key.
@@infidel900rr
The N55 is one of the most reliable from BMW..
But is extremely problematic and plagued with German engineering of plastics throughout the engine and engine bay that begin to fail regularly at 50 thousand miles...
I have spent many countless hours working on these vehicles.
If you got 150 thousand miles without dropping buckets of cash
You are one of few.
He’s brought another golf R but an auto this time. That’s not like you
I like the engine but the looks don’t sit well, it looks quite narrow and ‘weedy’. Styling wise it’s boring.
Because it’s a 3L it has a “smaller” turbo? 😂
Buddy it’s the n55 engine not n54
I wish I could afford a BMW, because they are not cheap to fix.
its not a n54 its a n55 :)
Not sure if i want a 235i or gti hard decision
Went from a GTI to M235i. Both are great for what they are. The BMW gives you more but you pay extra for it. Drive both and decide
That downshift at 6:06. Yikes
Same in same time buy same look car XDD
You swapped it for a girls car
Manual trans!?!? Ditch that and buy one with the A/T. You’ll thanks me later.
lol fuck that noise.
@Null I can agree an auto commuter is better. But as a second car, I'd take the stick.
Why you said that? I'm thinking in buy one manual but, I always read comments like yours
@@joseovando6926 don’t listen if you enjoy manual it’s just for you
Manual transmission for the drivers , auto for the pretenders
Black cars suck.