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Problem with today’s society is… I’m 42 and I said I waste about six hours a day before he ever said six hours. Now, what should I tell you….? That should tell you that the average adult doesn’t really see goals or ambition as reachable because of how drastic the “have” and “have Nots” have become. Dammit America! Things were better when the gap was smaller.
“If you want to run towards something you want, you better be running away from something you don’t want” amazing. I took the advice to heart and implemented them in my UA-cam vids and my life in general.
Fear of failure can be a strong motivator, but it can also be incredibly dangerous. If you still manage to fail despite your best efforts, in particular when it's because of factors outside of your control, it can completely destroy you and lead you down the path of depression, apathy and suicidality. _"If my life is fucked, and all of my efforts and sacrifices are worth nothing, why even bother trying?"_
I think fear of failure usually is the opposite of a motivator. It demotivates you since the task may seem more daunting than it actually is. I guess everyone reacts to things differently but thats how i see it
Man really been healing generational traumas of people. I wish he he was immortal. We need people like him because a lot of us are lost due to traumas and there’s literally no one to show us a way or path to look forward to. Watching his videos give us hope and makes us optimistic and makes us willing to change for good. God bless this man! Hats off! 🙏🏻
Right. That is the problem with all these Jordan Peterson (the new 'YT psychology guru') videos: he develops his thoughts while speaking (with hesitations, stops, rephrasing..), forcing the listeners to follow the whole process. For hours and hours (depending on how many clips you view). A lot of redundancy and repetition before the essence (which there is, of course) is reached. It's like with tennis: I often don't have the time, or don't want to sit out and watch the whole match. Just give me the results.
Almost every time I listen to Jordan Peterson he will say something that completely resonates with me and describes the tornado of thoughts and feelings in my mind at exactly the right moment when I need it. He is truly formidable.
Procrastination is probably just a modern ailment, an ailment of what to do with excess free time. In the past all you had to focus on was simply surviving. Most people in the west are on a higher tier of Maslos Hierarchy of needs.
Whole point of tha convo is listen in on intelligence... What else from a convo there to be coming? Learn grow and smoke trees.. Trigger light on this forty five heated breathin speaking by my fire live.
Nah man, I'm just fucking around. I was just going through the same thing and am barely getting out of a year long slump with the help of a little bit of exercise and Peterson.
this part definitely resonate with me so much 6:00 - 6:31 ✔too much pornographies ✔too much video games ✔too much youtube videos ✔wasting my life away time to change my life...
H Idc what you think about it. You're not to judge me and my way of living. It helps me. It fosters discipline and self control. I don't believe nor feel like it gives me super powers. But it gives me powers over my own impulses - And that's a lot. Do what you want. No one is forcing you to stop seeking pleasure. Pleasure island has its temptations. And pathologies. It's a rotten place full of justifying lies to be and the sooner you realise that, the sooner you start maturing.
2:20 ... boom! Nailed it! If where you are is doable... then changing anything could cause a horrible disaster. But if where you are is untenable, then you must make a change, in spite of the valid risk of making a mistake.
I sometimes feel like homework is wasting time when I could be working out, being outside in the sun, Instead of being hunched over staring at a computer screen for 8 hours a day
Well no, because I thought watching this video was something productive and that right now is not the time to do something productive. So I spent an hour watching other videos before I watched this one.
Since some days I'm not procrastinating and this is a really nice feeling. My productivity is pushing up. I think, that you can only really relax, if you are not procrastinating. Thanks for uploading this video!
Another way to motivate yourself to take action is just decide to act right now, whether you feel motivated or not. There is a principle called, "Work comes first, motivation second." This is just another way of being more productive.
Why do people not like this guy. I always find him saying something that is positive and beneficial. He tries to tell the truth. I really like him because he holds me accountable.
2nd year of college - I figured out that the hardest thing to do for me was pulling out my binder and getting out the work on my desk. Then, once I see something is unfinished, I can easily get to work. I'm very focused when I work too, I just sit down for a few hours and write a report or a paper. DONE. I don't have a problem actually doing the work, but, the action of getting out my work is just very difficult for some reason.
Was procrastinating and this helped. Use both a future vision, and counter vision. Do you want a good future, or bad future? FYI the 2nd camera was confused between the microphone and guest Dr Peterson. Put it on a higher angle or lower the microphone arm.
can you share your review plz? i have a hard time finishing things that i start... i have many ideas and i start working on some of them, after sometime i lose my focus and motivation and i am not able to finish anything that i start. this is really frustrating. Does john isaac's procrastination elimination method help with this aspect?
This will definitely help you. John Isaac shows your some tools and how to use them effectively, which you can apply in different situations. My productivity went above the roof once i started applying the techniques from Procrastination Elimination Method! Hope that helps :)
Completely explains why I wait until the last minute to thrash on my race car, I could work on it weeks before a race but instead I end up waiting until the week before because the idea of missing the race (fear) pushes me to work on the car Even now in rebuilding the car after I wrecked it I find myself lacking the motivation, this video explains so much
The value i place on my time is not based on money but on how i develop myself, that includes work, play, sitting watching these and other lectures, or going out and doing activities, as such i dont really consider any of my time actually wasted just bringing different values and experiance. Sometimes its nice to just sit, watch the trees and think, am i planning or just sitting in neutral, sometimes both, i think for me a perod of procrastination (yes i had to cut and paste that) is part of the final preperation before action.
I'm Purrito If you waste time with something it means you don´t really want it. I broke up with university. It was a useless and nonsense crap. I always procrastinated, because I hated it from the bottom of my heart. I hated everything, even every single student and professor. And most people choose University because they have no other alternative....the problem is not procrastination, the problem is life, if you have no where to run. Everything in this fuckin capitalistic world is a compromise and therefore procrastination is a normal effect.
Keskinkilicnr1 hating everyone at uni is bit extreme though. What about the cleaner. I think as long as you are enjoying your procrastination there is nothing wrong with it. If it's making you depressed then you need to fight your way out to eutopia.
There's also another study that shows if rat is stuck in a cage where the punishment/stress is applied regardless of what it does, the rat becomes convinced it cannot map the any aspect of its world in a positive manner and it becomes frozen. This relates to the bit where he speaks of the vision for future. What if it is constantly destroyed to where there is no longer a reliable vision, nor any trust in the visionary abilities themself. You're at the point where the 'worst thing' you can think of (most people can think of) begins to bring a feeling of relief. My question to Jordan would be what if you have a rat who has for various reasons ended up so low on its dominance hierarchies, so exhausted and empty that he is unsure whether he might actually deserve the cat more than the food? There doesn't seem a way out of that. Regardless of the philosophical meanderings. (BTW, I'm a huge fan of Jordan so this isn't said to challenge him and no disrespect is intended).
I really wish Peterson would get into self-determination theory. It's a profound and now standardized theory on the three needs human beings have for motivation- and in this case, intrinsic motivation. Peterson first does not differentiate between extrinsic and intrinsic motivation. Note that extrinsic motivation over time will erode intrinsic motivation, thus procrastination. Secondly, the three needs are: autonomy- the agency to lead one's own life; competence- the ability to do something well, and interconnectedness- relationships, mutual support and belonging. Peterson loves competence and emphasizes it, I suppose since he's in a world that has devalue competence over the last 60 years. And he also has talked about topics relating to interconnectedness. But depending on the topic, he's sometimes inconsistent on autonomy, especially when it comes to children and youth. If he wasn't so focused on extrinsic motivation, he wouldn't adamantly support reward and punishment of kids so much. That being said, I love failure. It's ben an essential companion. I find it a lot more enjoyable than fearing failure and living my live as if I'm running away. I find the greatest secret success is hidden in the recognition of failure as a kind of success. Seeing it this way, you can go into it and bring out a kind of living that can't really be imagined even.
Nemo Sundry Relates well with my thoughts I agree with his theory, and think it can be very helpful for many people. But when I looked deep inside myself, I didn't really see it applying to my life. Then as JP continued he pretty much showed me why. Because the fear behind you, helps you overcome the fear in front of you. And for me, I don't fear what's in front of me. Or rather more specifically I have the courage to move towards what I desire and value the most, regardless of any fear.
Nemo Sundry There's absolutely no doubt that external motivation can work and is useful. Any theory reflexively dismissing one side in favor of another is usually incomplete. Of course you shouldn't be completely driven by the outside world, and nobody is saying that.
I see several problems with these arguments but here are the top two: 1. Fear can potentially ruffle your mind and push you into a state of being absolutely petrified, yielding next to nothing by way of results. Most tasks that demand cognitive investment need a certain calm that's conducive to giving structure to your thoughts and rightly orienting your psychic energy. This is my issue with Peterson: he keeps analogizing with rats and lobsters and other elementary life forms to define humans, which is a fundamental fallacy. We aren't cheese-chasing rodents any longer; we're into the business of consciously pursuing value. Inflicting pain and fear by oneself or externally may work for an ancient Egyptian slave but not for a modern human, a highly evolved intellectual and creative organism. 2. On all those 'wasted' hours--what's meant by 'waste'? Any serious cognitive activity would have two modes, the focused mode when you are sort of hands-on, and then what could be called the 'diffused' mode, which is when all the free mental association of ideas really take place. Unless your are a hapless slogger, you must get up from your chair and let your mind be free for a time, thereby galvanizing your creative and mnemonic powers. So, not every free hour is an hour wasted, but can well be one of necessary distraction giving your subconscious mind its due.
From my life expierence anyone I knew that was 100% on worked super hard played super hard and never just chilled have eventually burnt out. And life did not end up being their dream they can be angry. Only 2 or 3 people I have known in my life were truly 100% focused. I wasn't one I ended up being that mix of weight lifting, loving 420, dog walking type of average Joe. And I love it
Procrastination is simply your brain carrying out a cost-benefit analysis and subconsciously concluding that doing nothing 'now' is fair, as long as the completion of the task is still possible and not too costly in the future.
Congratulations PhilosophyInsights! for having a JP interview without a sensational misleading title. I guess there is still a grain of sanity in this digital sea of deception. And ultimately, that's the problem with the internet: there's no educational prerequisites required, just a PC and a connection. 😉
The problem is in deciding which goals to set too though, i mean, should i become a nurse or an electrician? what if i dont have the aptitude for either? what do i do? i'm 30 and can't figure it out and time is fleeting. i want more than im getting and doing, but dont know what to pursue.
Any Decision is better then none decision. You learn and can reevaluate your decision after a while. Envision yourself as 40 and never decided something. Still at the same place! Ill hope that hurts!
Deadlines are awesome for me. I write for a living, and word count goals of 2k words per day forces to 'earn' my free time. If I don't have deadlines, I just feel like 'Oh, I could write for ten hours, but I could also decide to not write at all because there are no rules on how much I should work.'
This should be the last YT video that I ever watch! Well it won't be, because I know that JP can teach me a lot more. I will however try to stop watching videos that are just helping me to procrastinate. I hope I manage to keep it up.
The Weresheepdog If you're not just bs'ing here to feel tough and cool, you might wanna seek professional help with that. There are usually severe mental disorders associated with "fearlessness" Not good. Not for you or anyone around you. Since fear is a fundamental part of the human condition though, I call Edgelord...
After my kids were born I have fear of something happening to them. Other than that... It seems to have been greatly reduced since then. For instance, when I woke up in pain with a heart attack... I knew what it was by the symptoms... But I was so tired that I decided to snooze a bit and put my cellphone to ring in one hour to wake me up again. And when I got persecuted and shot at by criminals I kept calm: even after one of their shots hit me (lost a kidney) I just stood by my decision of not shooting them in their heads and killing them (which would have been easy - I'm a good shooter, twice a national vice-champion), but instead take a little more risk to just shoot them in their hands so they gave up shooting and decided to run away. Also roller coasters and human slingshots make me yawn... So I guess yes, your advice is, in fact, pretty good... Instead of fearlessness I always thought of it as a philosophical acceptance of death, but could indeed be some problem...
My problem right now is that I have to study for the "oposiciones" to get a stable job instead of being in a different high school every course. But I'm already at the stage of being phisically ill. And no matter what I achieve regarding my professional life it has no meaning to me if I'm going to still have this illness that I have that prevents me from doing sport nor going to sleep late, nor eat what I'd like, nor drinking alcohol.... It's like I'm leaving a nightmare yet life continues and I still have to face big obstacles that seem not only impossible to face but meaningless when it comes to feeling I can live a normal live again. I don't wont to procastinate and when I was in full shape I proved i can get a degree in microbiology with good marks. I can even handle being a teacher and doing classes even when I have lots of nausea and exaustion, because it motivates me. But studying... has become so hard for me I spend my vacations procastinating. And I don't know how to solve that. Because my biggest fear is not being able to have a normal life without my illness. And nothing I can do will change that. Though at least when teaching I feel fulfilled in some sense, and I quite forget the nausea, the headaches and the anxiety.
My Notes: Write out the worst case scenario: How your lack of action will affect you, your family, and friends. Conjure up all the shame, the guilt, the I Told You So's, the looks of disappointment on there faces, the bill collection calls, the moment you get the call into the boss' office telling you "You're Fired!", the moment your spouse or sig other tells you they are out of here, the stress and anxiety, the burden of asking for help, the amount of work it will take to climb out of the hole you dug for yourself. Do the math! How much time do I waste in a week x what my time is worth in $. "We are not Lions waiting for an Antelope, we are squirrels gathering nuts before the Winter storm."
Sir, if your camera is in a fixed position and at a constant equal distance to the subject, I recommend setting up manual focus in advance. It's how movies do it. Great interview :)
I leave here an excerpt from John Galt's speech, that partly addresses JP's christian based premises that form his ethics, and in reference to the comment he makes where fear provides an incentive for survival, in fact he emphasizes it as having more usefulness as a primary motivator. "-you have never discovered that achieving life is not the equivalent of avoiding death" ". . . It is not death that we wish to avoid, but life that we wish to live. You, who have lost the concept of the difference, you who claim that fear and joy are incentives of equal power-and secretly add that fear is the more ‘practical’-you do not wish to live, and only fear of death still holds you to the existence you have damned. You dart in panic through the trap of your days, looking for the exit you have closed, running from a pursuer you dare not name to a terror you dare not acknowledge, and the greater your terror the greater your dread of the only act that could save you: thinking." During an alternative Q&A (lost source) regarding the ethical basis between Nazis and Communists, what was clear and obvious is that Professor Peterson struggled to find the causal ethical basis between the two ideologies. I say obvious because knowing that he holds christian ethics in high regard, he wouldn't be able to conceive the shared value which is altruism. To admit that both communists and nazis practiced altruism and cite it as such as evil, would undermine christian ethics entirely. So such a link must be abandoned if one is to maintain judeo-christian ethics. Incidentally, it is exactly this moral standard that is incompatible with capitalism and is bringing about capitalism's downfall. To make one thing absolutely clear, it must be made acutely clear that altruism and benevolence are not the same thing. Benevolence permits self gratification during an act of help to another. Altruism by its actual meaning does not. If you take any personal gratification through say a charitable act you are not being altruistic. As for the comparisons between incentives for animals as a guide for understanding incentives for humans. We should not attribute more value to this than it's worth. The essential in denial and reason I say this is because man does *not* have an instinct for survival. This is a very contentious point, and would require a rather lengthy discussion to qualify. I merely note it as a point of error that needs further understanding.
I think you’re confusing “hell with “sacrifice”. If you’re not willing to sacrifice anything then you’ll never attain your goals since their not realistic goals
So if I get this right... Fear motivates more than reward - yep. But in order for that to work we need to remind ourselves constantly of those things that we don’t want and what we are afraid of turning into... Well if we take the belief that “thoughts become things”. Errrmmm. Do you get where I’m going with this??
Liz Schmitt my understanding: It's not a better motivator than reward but rather they go hand in hand, and optimal motivation is when reward pulls you forward as fear pushes you forward. As for thoughts become things, the only time I remind myself of these fears are when I'm doing something that leads me in that direction, like sitting on butt mindlessly scrolling my phone. In the beginning there were a lot of these moments but my awareness of them has allowed me to shift out of them sooner, spending less time doing the things that gravitate me towards my fears. My bottom line, whether I spent time thinking of my fears or not I was acting them out, and as much as thoughts become things I believe actions will get you there faster. Hope this helps :)
I procrastinated a few hours before watching this video. In fact I haven't watched it yet, I'm procrastinating writting this comment. I hope the video helps me. Ok, here I go. I'll watch it now. I'll get a cup of coffee first.
The comment on the origin of, for example, hell is interesting and I think does not have to be at odds with actually beliving in hell's existence. The question is whether hell is a useful concept because hell is real, or hell is merely a useful concept and hell is not real. Either way, Father James Schall SJ has an interesting observation that sides with the former (not surprisingly): "Revelation, in the Roman Catholic view, answers two basic issues that arise in political living that politics itself cannot answer. The first of these is the Platonic concern: “Is the world made in injustice?” Polities were initially set up to provide a context for justice, with courts and, yes, police and armies. But quite obviously, all the injustice occurring in the world is not punished, nor are all the virtues properly rewarded. This realization was the empirical fact that led Plato to propose the immortality of the soul. The immortality of the soul thus had political origins. This immortality made it possible that unpunished crimes and unrewarded good deeds be adequately requited. Benedict XVI says in Spe Salvi that the world needs judgment for it to be complete. It needs to know that justice ultimately is accomplished. Thus, the Creed’s “Christ will come to judge the living and the dead” follows from this enigma of which Plato was already aware. We are, no doubt, free to reject this aspect of justice, but we do so only by accepting the proposition that the world is unjust. This is why the second American president, John Adams, said that, for politics, hell is the most essential doctrine of religion. The point was that, without this final reckoning, we would be free to do whatever we wanted with no possible concern for punishment of the injustice of our personal and political deeds. Ultimately, hell, as it were, emphasizes the significance of each of our acts in this world. It guarantees their ultimate importance." From: www.crisismagazine.com/2011/what-is-roman-catholic-political-philosophy
you can avoid procrastination by strengthening executive function. do learning breakthrough program for 2 years everyday 2 times... do it . believe me, it will change your life. you can increase executive function along with other stuff....
Problem with me is that I've failed a few times and made it back up, my fears just don't motivate me that much anymore, knowing I can fly so close to failure and get back to mediocrity. It's like I'm ok with being mediocre but part of my mind is just so mad that I'm not pushing myself more. It also really doesn't help that I've scored 0% industriousness on Peterson's personality test. Been trying to excerxise self-discipline and routine into my life, I just can't quite make things stick
This is me too. A part of me knows I'll bust my ass when the time comes or whatever that I have to get out of, and so I skirt close to the edge instead of giving it a constant push. Most of my procrastination is because of my value system it seems. i.e (logically I want to lose weight, but I do not value the things it takes to lose weight over their counterparts) So when the time comes for me to make the choice to do one over the other. My value system kicks in and I eat the snack or skip the workout, for whatever else I could be doing. (playing video games, or just laying around reading or whatever.) I have yet to find a legit way to counter this.
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PhilosophyInsights he is wrong about this one tho. But its no biggie, they need to be pressured anyway.
Thank you for taking the the time to consistently include the original videos! Much obliged.
What is that painting behind you? I'm obsessed with it!
Problem with today’s society is… I’m 42 and I said I waste about six hours a day before he ever said six hours. Now, what should I tell you….? That should tell you that the average adult doesn’t really see goals or ambition as reachable because of how drastic the “have” and “have Nots” have become.
Dammit America! Things were better when the gap was smaller.
But the bible is real with deep evidence so yes hell is truthful fear
[Generic comment on how I procrastinate by watching this video]
Thank you! I hate those cheap, obvious, basic comments.
OMG same
I hate those comments
“If you want to run towards something you want, you better be running away from something you don’t want” amazing. I took the advice to heart and implemented them in my UA-cam vids and my life in general.
Fear of failure can be a strong motivator, but it can also be incredibly dangerous. If you still manage to fail despite your best efforts, in particular when it's because of factors outside of your control, it can completely destroy you and lead you down the path of depression, apathy and suicidality. _"If my life is fucked, and all of my efforts and sacrifices are worth nothing, why even bother trying?"_
I think fear of failure usually is the opposite of a motivator. It demotivates you since the task may seem more daunting than it actually is. I guess everyone reacts to things differently but thats how i see it
I totally agree. Fear is a horrible motivator for me. It just paralyzes me and makes me just give up
Then you become loser nihilis
Man really been healing generational traumas of people. I wish he he was immortal. We need people like him because a lot of us are lost due to traumas and there’s literally no one to show us a way or path to look forward to. Watching his videos give us hope and makes us optimistic and makes us willing to change for good. God bless this man! Hats off! 🙏🏻
Yep me too. Jordan Peterson is the guidance i didn't get from my parents as a child, or from any adult for that matter.
Procrastinating by watching this 😂
Shruthi Reddy me too. Lol
Shruthi Reddy yes!
Damn. Same here.
Yup lol
Right. That is the problem with all these Jordan Peterson (the new 'YT psychology guru') videos: he develops his thoughts while speaking (with hesitations, stops, rephrasing..), forcing the listeners to follow the whole process. For hours and hours (depending on how many clips you view). A lot of redundancy and repetition before the essence (which there is, of course) is reached. It's like with tennis: I often don't have the time, or don't want to sit out and watch the whole match. Just give me the results.
I've had this tab open for three days now.
Jeremy Spencer Guinnes World Records.
i have 16 of JBP videos open i am procrastinating.
nvm 23 now...
😂😂😂 Me too! And now I'm procrastinating by watching it. I hope it helps....
Almost every time I listen to Jordan Peterson he will say something that completely resonates with me and describes the tornado of thoughts and feelings in my mind at exactly the right moment when I need it. He is truly formidable.
"Why should you listen to yourself if you're an idiot?!" - spot on, sir 😂
For half the interview the camera was procrastinating whether to focus properly on JP.
Ridiculous having such camera focus issues.
Think of it as cinematic stylization.
Maybe it doesn't have a face recognition mode, or the mode was off. Oh well.
focus you FACK
oh you!
I'll watch this later....
If you said that when you know you have time, that's what contributes to it. -I know you might be joking-
quicksno lol indeed... do i need to watch this, yes? I rather not but you think i should, yes? Well maybe later lol
You beat me to it.
Hahahahaahah!
"Playing videogames not because they want to, but because they can't stop." This hits way too close home... damn Jordan
My usual answer to the job interview question regarding what motivates me is exactly this - fear and desperation.
"You don't have to see the whole staircase. You just have to take the first step. "
~ Martin Luther King Jr.
Okay, not gonna lie but I was thinking about the same thing without consciously knowing about this quote.
Procrastination is probably just a modern ailment, an ailment of what to do with excess free time. In the past all you had to focus on was simply surviving. Most people in the west are on a higher tier of Maslos Hierarchy of needs.
very true
**stops the video in the middle and gets back to work**
exactly after the cat mouse example!
*stops the video in the middle, types a comment about stopping the video in the middle and getting back to work and gets back to work*
Good Going bro
8:45 Cathy Newman: "So you're saying that terror is great..."
FACTS
You have me somewhat dead lmao
Saved this one for later. Should be great some day.
Slade S 😉
Lol
It has been over one year. Time's up. Watch this.
3 years later...
Well the time is now my friend
I'm procrastinating by learning about how to not procrastinate.
you are on the right path
If you are learning from it, then I would say that's an investment because you will get benefit out of it if you really are learning. 😉
Whole point of tha convo is listen in on intelligence... What else from a convo there to be coming? Learn grow and smoke trees.. Trigger light on this forty five heated breathin speaking by my fire live.
Hey man same
Why is this in my feed?
Damn UA-cam, you always know what I need. Frigging genious YT analytics.
I'm writing a final exam tommorrow.
Actually, YT knows what I needed last year... lol
Karl Heven l llama
This was very needed. It’s 4:30 and I haven’t gotten out of bed yet.
Jael Sonnen it’s been on my mind my dude
Nah man, I'm just fucking around. I was just going through the same thing and am barely getting out of a year long slump with the help of a little bit of exercise and Peterson.
Andrew Cook out of bed yet?
smartychase it’s 6am mate give me 5 more minutes
I'm Purrito well there's hope you got out ..
this part definitely resonate with me so much 6:00 - 6:31
✔too much pornographies
✔too much video games
✔too much youtube videos
✔wasting my life away
time to change my life...
How’d that work out?
Start with NoFap
Lightnings nofap = cult.
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Idc what you think about it. You're not to judge me and my way of living. It helps me. It fosters discipline and self control.
I don't believe nor feel like it gives me super powers. But it gives me powers over my own impulses - And that's a lot.
Do what you want. No one is forcing you to stop seeking pleasure. Pleasure island has its temptations. And pathologies. It's a rotten place full of justifying lies to be and the sooner you realise that, the sooner you start maturing.
Lightnings nah I was just making sure the dude you recommended it to knows that it’s nothing more than pseudoscience shenanigans.
2:20 ... boom! Nailed it!
If where you are is doable... then changing anything could cause a horrible disaster. But if where you are is untenable, then you must make a change, in spite of the valid risk of making a mistake.
For me, it always comes back to “cleaning my room” to get through my anxiety-paralysis and actually accomplish something.
I sometimes feel like homework is wasting time when I could be working out, being outside in the sun, Instead of being hunched over staring at a computer screen for 8 hours a day
Anybody else watching this while procrastinating?
Well no, because I thought watching this video was something productive and that right now is not the time to do something productive. So I spent an hour watching other videos before I watched this one.
Yep, that's me. Back to writing BA thesis I guess..
got 2 kids graduating and need to get announcements in the mail.
I watched like half of it, applied for jobs for about 1 hour, watched the other half because now I'm getting tired of it
👋👋👋
"If it gets measured, it gets managed." Good!
Since some days I'm not procrastinating and this is a really nice feeling. My productivity is pushing up. I think, that you can only really relax, if you are not procrastinating. Thanks for uploading this video!
Another way to motivate yourself to take action is just decide to act right now, whether you feel motivated or not.
There is a principle called, "Work comes first, motivation second."
This is just another way of being more productive.
" If wanna run towards something you want it’s truly useful to be running away from something you don’t want. " - JBP
I put it on my "watch later" list.
Why do people not like this guy. I always find him saying something that is positive and beneficial. He tries to tell the truth. I really like him because he holds me accountable.
2nd year of college - I figured out that the hardest thing to do for me was pulling out my binder and getting out the work on my desk. Then, once I see something is unfinished, I can easily get to work. I'm very focused when I work too, I just sit down for a few hours and write a report or a paper. DONE. I don't have a problem actually doing the work, but, the action of getting out my work is just very difficult for some reason.
I have found that over time threatening myself with something negative to motivate myself caused anxiety.
Watching this while procrastinating
Here are my 4 reasons for procrastinating:
1)
Was procrastinating and this helped. Use both a future vision, and counter vision. Do you want a good future, or bad future?
FYI the 2nd camera was confused between the microphone and guest Dr Peterson. Put it on a higher angle or lower the microphone arm.
i have been using the Procrastination Elimination Method by john isaac! its life changing... you guys should check it out.
thanks for the suggestion
sounds interesting will check it out
purchased! its actually quite different than other procrastination beating techniques :)
can you share your review plz? i have a hard time finishing things that i start... i have many ideas and i start working on some of them, after sometime i lose my focus and motivation and i am not able to finish anything that i start. this is really frustrating. Does john isaac's procrastination elimination method help with this aspect?
This will definitely help you. John Isaac shows your some tools and how to use them effectively, which you can apply in different situations. My productivity went above the roof once i started applying the techniques from Procrastination Elimination Method! Hope that helps :)
Completely explains why I wait until the last minute to thrash on my race car, I could work on it weeks before a race but instead I end up waiting until the week before because the idea of missing the race (fear) pushes me to work on the car
Even now in rebuilding the car after I wrecked it I find myself lacking the motivation, this video explains so much
You have cool life, enjoy it!
The value i place on my time is not based on money but on how i develop myself, that includes work, play, sitting watching these and other lectures, or going out and doing activities, as such i dont really consider any of my time actually wasted just bringing different values and experiance. Sometimes its nice to just sit, watch the trees and think, am i planning or just sitting in neutral, sometimes both, i think for me a perod of procrastination (yes i had to cut and paste that) is part of the final preperation before action.
I bought a book on procrastination once 40 years ago, never got around to reading it
Hahahahaha that's me
40 years ago???.... Does that mean you still procrastinate? You are Scaring me...
Just responding to the title....I just finished my taxes :)
C Warren....posted mine this morning....FINALLY
+crossman20 doin mine later
Well don't think I"m all on time or anything....when I stated "taxes" I meant 2016 and 17 lol.
Lol :)
Yeah but that's actually how I discovered him two years ago by
clicking on uninteresting (I thought) videos ::))))
Time spent should either be productive or enjoyable; ideally, both. While prioritizing, do the enjoyable things last to maximize enjoyment.
Education shouldn't be about reaching goals, but to avoid unwanted consequences if you don't get an education.
Finally got round to watching this... Great advice!
What if the brain knows that you will die sooner or later, no matter what you do and procrastination is the state of flow and happieness?
I'm Purrito
If you waste time with something it means you don´t really want it. I broke up with university. It was a useless and nonsense crap. I always procrastinated, because I hated it from the bottom of my heart. I hated everything, even every single student and professor. And most people choose University because they have no other alternative....the problem is not procrastination, the problem is life, if you have no where to run. Everything in this fuckin capitalistic world is a compromise and therefore procrastination is a normal effect.
Keskinkilicnr1 hating everyone at uni is bit extreme though. What about the cleaner. I think as long as you are enjoying your procrastination there is nothing wrong with it. If it's making you depressed then you need to fight your way out to eutopia.
There's also another study that shows if rat is stuck in a cage where the punishment/stress is applied regardless of what it does, the rat becomes convinced it cannot map the any aspect of its world in a positive manner and it becomes frozen.
This relates to the bit where he speaks of the vision for future. What if it is constantly destroyed to where there is no longer a reliable vision, nor any trust in the visionary abilities themself. You're at the point where the 'worst thing' you can think of (most people can think of) begins to bring a feeling of relief.
My question to Jordan would be what if you have a rat who has for various reasons ended up so low on its dominance hierarchies, so exhausted and empty that he is unsure whether he might actually deserve the cat more than the food?
There doesn't seem a way out of that. Regardless of the philosophical meanderings.
(BTW, I'm a huge fan of Jordan so this isn't said to challenge him and no disrespect is intended).
Been meaning to get around to watching this sometime real soon .
I wish UA-cam had a x3 speed. So I can absorb as much of these kinds of video as quickly as possible
Install extensions
"Why should I listen to myself if I'm an idiot?" - classic.
What a powerful interview. I am a pathological proctrastinator. I am not good to anyone, I feel useless and frustrated. .
Fear of failing and no fear of death means that you have to work harder, Mr.
I added this to "watch later"
Watching it after having on watch later for 6 months
I really wish Peterson would get into self-determination theory. It's a profound and now standardized theory on the three needs human beings have for motivation- and in this case, intrinsic motivation. Peterson first does not differentiate between extrinsic and intrinsic motivation. Note that extrinsic motivation over time will erode intrinsic motivation, thus procrastination.
Secondly, the three needs are: autonomy- the agency to lead one's own life; competence- the ability to do something well, and interconnectedness- relationships, mutual support and belonging.
Peterson loves competence and emphasizes it, I suppose since he's in a world that has devalue competence over the last 60 years. And he also has talked about topics relating to interconnectedness. But depending on the topic, he's sometimes inconsistent on autonomy, especially when it comes to children and youth. If he wasn't so focused on extrinsic motivation, he wouldn't adamantly support reward and punishment of kids so much.
That being said, I love failure. It's ben an essential companion. I find it a lot more enjoyable than fearing failure and living my live as if I'm running away. I find the greatest secret success is hidden in the recognition of failure as a kind of success. Seeing it this way, you can go into it and bring out a kind of living that can't really be imagined even.
Nemo Sundry
Relates well with my thoughts
I agree with his theory, and think it can be very helpful for many people. But when I looked deep inside myself, I didn't really see it applying to my life. Then as JP continued he pretty much showed me why. Because the fear behind you, helps you overcome the fear in front of you. And for me, I don't fear what's in front of me. Or rather more specifically I have the courage to move towards what I desire and value the most, regardless of any fear.
Nemo Sundry There's absolutely no doubt that external motivation can work and is useful. Any theory reflexively dismissing one side in favor of another is usually incomplete. Of course you shouldn't be completely driven by the outside world, and nobody is saying that.
I see several problems with these arguments but here are the top two:
1. Fear can potentially ruffle your mind and push you into a state of being absolutely petrified, yielding next to nothing by way of results. Most tasks that demand cognitive investment need a certain calm that's conducive to giving structure to your thoughts and rightly orienting your psychic energy. This is my issue with Peterson: he keeps analogizing with rats and lobsters and other elementary life forms to define humans, which is a fundamental fallacy. We aren't cheese-chasing rodents any longer; we're into the business of consciously pursuing value. Inflicting pain and fear by oneself or externally may work for an ancient Egyptian slave but not for a modern human, a highly evolved intellectual and creative organism.
2. On all those 'wasted' hours--what's meant by 'waste'? Any serious cognitive activity would have two modes, the focused mode when you are sort of hands-on, and then what could be called the 'diffused' mode, which is when all the free mental association of ideas really take place. Unless your are a hapless slogger, you must get up from your chair and let your mind be free for a time, thereby galvanizing your creative and mnemonic powers. So, not every free hour is an hour wasted, but can well be one of necessary distraction giving your subconscious mind its due.
I stopped being driven and started to procrastinate more. Never been happier.
Said no one ever lol
I was saving this for awhile
From my life expierence anyone I knew that was 100% on worked super hard played super hard and never just chilled have eventually burnt out. And life did not end up being their dream they can be angry. Only 2 or 3 people I have known in my life were truly 100% focused. I wasn't one I ended up being that mix of weight lifting, loving 420, dog walking type of average Joe. And I love it
my favorite way to procrastinate is watching Jordan Petersons' videos
Just realized there are people putting this in their Watch Later playlist 😂
Good words, but the last part about the vision was very good
Holy shit; what are the odds. I was listening to a podcast about how to stop procrastinating just before I saw this in my subscription feed.
Procrastination is simply your brain carrying out a cost-benefit analysis and subconsciously concluding that doing nothing 'now' is fair, as long as the completion of the task is still possible and not too costly in the future.
Congratulations PhilosophyInsights! for having a JP interview without a sensational misleading title. I guess there is still a grain of sanity in this digital sea of deception. And ultimately, that's the problem with the internet: there's no educational prerequisites required, just a PC and a connection. 😉
The problem is in deciding which goals to set too though, i mean, should i become a nurse or an electrician? what if i dont have the aptitude for either? what do i do? i'm 30 and can't figure it out and time is fleeting. i want more than im getting and doing, but dont know what to pursue.
Dude youre 30 pick something and go for it. Learn as you go. Time is literally ticking away.
Any Decision is better then none decision. You learn and can reevaluate your decision after a while. Envision yourself as 40 and never decided something. Still at the same place! Ill hope that hurts!
Another brilliant video! Thank you.
Deadlines are awesome for me. I write for a living, and word count goals of 2k words per day forces to 'earn' my free time. If I don't have deadlines, I just feel like 'Oh, I could write for ten hours, but I could also decide to not write at all because there are no rules on how much I should work.'
Adrian Bräysy
Goals?
Goals?
"Procrastination needs no explanation" Dropping hot rhyms
I'll watch this tomorrow.
This should be the last YT video that I ever watch! Well it won't be, because I know that JP can teach me a lot more. I will however try to stop watching videos that are just helping me to procrastinate. I hope I manage to keep it up.
Having energy and good goals would help.
Great information.
Great info - Thanks
I think I'll just watch this video every day until I do what I should, back to work!
Added this to my watch later list
Great! I must add this my watch later list sometime!
I have noticed that for me hunger works way better than fear. Probably because it's much harder, for me, to fear something than to be hungry...
Josh D nah, no fear of that... It's more like the pain and discomfort give me energy and focus...
The Weresheepdog
If you're not just bs'ing here to feel tough and cool, you might wanna seek professional help with that.
There are usually severe mental disorders associated with "fearlessness"
Not good. Not for you or anyone around you.
Since fear is a fundamental part of the human condition though, I call Edgelord...
Josh D exactly
After my kids were born I have fear of something happening to them. Other than that... It seems to have been greatly reduced since then.
For instance, when I woke up in pain with a heart attack... I knew what it was by the symptoms... But I was so tired that I decided to snooze a bit and put my cellphone to ring in one hour to wake me up again. And when I got persecuted and shot at by criminals I kept calm: even after one of their shots hit me (lost a kidney) I just stood by my decision of not shooting them in their heads and killing them (which would have been easy - I'm a good shooter, twice a national vice-champion), but instead take a little more risk to just shoot them in their hands so they gave up shooting and decided to run away.
Also roller coasters and human slingshots make me yawn...
So I guess yes, your advice is, in fact, pretty good... Instead of fearlessness I always thought of it as a philosophical acceptance of death, but could indeed be some problem...
The Weresheepdog Yea... sure....
My problem right now is that I have to study for the "oposiciones" to get a stable job instead of being in a different high school every course. But I'm already at the stage of being phisically ill. And no matter what I achieve regarding my professional life it has no meaning to me if I'm going to still have this illness that I have that prevents me from doing sport nor going to sleep late, nor eat what I'd like, nor drinking alcohol....
It's like I'm leaving a nightmare yet life continues and I still have to face big obstacles that seem not only impossible to face but meaningless when it comes to feeling I can live a normal live again.
I don't wont to procastinate and when I was in full shape I proved i can get a degree in microbiology with good marks. I can even handle being a teacher and doing classes even when I have lots of nausea and exaustion, because it motivates me. But studying... has become so hard for me I spend my vacations procastinating. And I don't know how to solve that.
Because my biggest fear is not being able to have a normal life without my illness. And nothing I can do will change that. Though at least when teaching I feel fulfilled in some sense, and I quite forget the nausea, the headaches and the anxiety.
😢
Ohh I'll definitely have to watch this later, I often have problems with finishing stuff tha
I have to finish my thesis and here I am procastinating, learning about how to stop procastinating.
nice camera focus
My Notes:
Write out the worst case scenario: How your lack of action will affect you, your family, and friends. Conjure up all the shame, the guilt, the I Told You So's, the looks of disappointment on there faces, the bill collection calls, the moment you get the call into the boss' office telling you "You're Fired!", the moment your spouse or sig other tells you they are out of here, the stress and anxiety, the burden of asking for help, the amount of work it will take to climb out of the hole you dug for yourself.
Do the math! How much time do I waste in a week x what my time is worth in $.
"We are not Lions waiting for an Antelope, we are squirrels gathering nuts before the Winter storm."
Sir, if your camera is in a fixed position and at a constant equal distance to the subject, I recommend setting up manual focus in advance. It's how movies do it. Great interview :)
I leave here an excerpt from John Galt's speech, that partly addresses JP's christian based premises that form his ethics, and in reference to the comment he makes where fear provides an incentive for survival, in fact he emphasizes it as having more usefulness as a primary motivator.
"-you have never discovered that achieving life is not the equivalent of avoiding death"
". . . It is not death that we wish to avoid, but life that we wish to live.
You, who have lost the concept of the difference, you who claim that fear and joy are incentives of equal power-and secretly add that fear is the more ‘practical’-you do not wish to live, and only fear of death still holds you to the existence you have damned. You dart in panic through the trap of your days, looking for the exit you have closed, running from a pursuer you dare not name to a terror you dare not acknowledge, and the greater your terror the greater your dread of the only act that could save you: thinking."
During an alternative Q&A (lost source) regarding the ethical basis between Nazis and Communists, what was clear and obvious is that Professor Peterson struggled to find the causal ethical basis between the two ideologies. I say obvious because knowing that he holds christian ethics in high regard, he wouldn't be able to conceive the shared value which is altruism. To admit that both communists and nazis practiced altruism and cite it as such as evil, would undermine christian ethics entirely. So such a link must be abandoned if one is to maintain judeo-christian ethics.
Incidentally, it is exactly this moral standard that is incompatible with capitalism and is bringing about capitalism's downfall.
To make one thing absolutely clear, it must be made acutely clear that altruism and benevolence are not the same thing. Benevolence permits self gratification during an act of help to another. Altruism by its actual meaning does not. If you take any personal gratification through say a charitable act you are not being altruistic.
As for the comparisons between incentives for animals as a guide for understanding incentives for humans. We should not attribute more value to this than it's worth. The essential in denial and reason I say this is because man does *not* have an instinct for survival. This is a very contentious point, and would require a rather lengthy discussion to qualify. I merely note it as a point of error that needs further understanding.
it seems like such an obviously better motivation then just setting positive goals yet why is this the first im hearing.
im procrastinating by watching this
Thank you
Added to watch later list...
What's your version of hell? Success. Being in charge. Demand after demand after demand and never a moment of peace. And LOTS of paperwork.
lowell houser so your definition of success is working as an accountant or something? What about a happy family?
Keylup Veintisiete no, he said his version of hell. I can relate.
I think you’re confusing “hell with “sacrifice”. If you’re not willing to sacrifice anything then you’ll never attain your goals since their not realistic goals
So if I get this right... Fear motivates more than reward - yep. But in order for that to work we need to remind ourselves constantly of those things that we don’t want and what we are afraid of turning into... Well if we take the belief that “thoughts become things”. Errrmmm. Do you get where I’m going with this??
Liz Schmitt my understanding: It's not a better motivator than reward but rather they go hand in hand, and optimal motivation is when reward pulls you forward as fear pushes you forward. As for thoughts become things, the only time I remind myself of these fears are when I'm doing something that leads me in that direction, like sitting on butt mindlessly scrolling my phone. In the beginning there were a lot of these moments but my awareness of them has allowed me to shift out of them sooner, spending less time doing the things that gravitate me towards my fears. My bottom line, whether I spent time thinking of my fears or not I was acting them out, and as much as thoughts become things I believe actions will get you there faster. Hope this helps :)
I have 250k in gold in Warcraft :(
Jael Sonnen lolol
Get your stacks up bro. You can barely buy a the shield of kantazian with that much cash
I have a maxed account on runescape
Also you paid real money for the game. Monthly.
Y'a get me.
I procrastinated a few hours before watching this video. In fact I haven't watched it yet, I'm procrastinating writting this comment. I hope the video helps me.
Ok, here I go.
I'll watch it now.
I'll get a cup of coffee first.
I'm not pro crastination, I'm anti crastination.
Je Suis Ce Que Je Suis I don't like the idea of getting anyone's balls cut off as well.
You're mixing crastination with castration? hehe
lol
The comment on the origin of, for example, hell is interesting and I think does not have to be at odds with actually beliving in hell's existence. The question is whether hell is a useful concept because hell is real, or hell is merely a useful concept and hell is not real. Either way, Father James Schall SJ has an interesting observation that sides with the former (not surprisingly): "Revelation, in the Roman Catholic view, answers two basic issues that arise in political living that politics itself cannot answer. The first of these is the Platonic concern: “Is the world made in injustice?” Polities were initially set up to provide a context for justice, with courts and, yes, police and armies. But quite obviously, all the injustice occurring in the world is not punished, nor are all the virtues properly rewarded. This realization was the empirical fact that led Plato to propose the immortality of the soul. The immortality of the soul thus had political origins. This immortality made it possible that unpunished crimes and unrewarded good deeds be adequately requited.
Benedict XVI says in Spe Salvi that the world needs judgment for it to be complete. It needs to know that justice ultimately is accomplished. Thus, the Creed’s “Christ will come to judge the living and the dead” follows from this enigma of which Plato was already aware. We are, no doubt, free to reject this aspect of justice, but we do so only by accepting the proposition that the world is unjust. This is why the second American president, John Adams, said that, for politics, hell is the most essential doctrine of religion. The point was that, without this final reckoning, we would be free to do whatever we wanted with no possible concern for punishment of the injustice of our personal and political deeds. Ultimately, hell, as it were, emphasizes the significance of each of our acts in this world. It guarantees their ultimate importance." From: www.crisismagazine.com/2011/what-is-roman-catholic-political-philosophy
you can avoid procrastination by strengthening executive function. do learning breakthrough program for 2 years everyday 2 times... do it . believe me, it will change your life. you can increase executive function along with other stuff....
Just added to watch later
Man I’m always going “faaaack!” Whenever I watch dr Peterson
Jaw dropping amazing
Added this video to my watch-later list
Wow - the singer from REM has so much money he has J. Peterson give him personal motivation talks...
Problem with me is that I've failed a few times and made it back up, my fears just don't motivate me that much anymore, knowing I can fly so close to failure and get back to mediocrity. It's like I'm ok with being mediocre but part of my mind is just so mad that I'm not pushing myself more.
It also really doesn't help that I've scored 0% industriousness on Peterson's personality test. Been trying to excerxise self-discipline and routine into my life, I just can't quite make things stick
This is me too. A part of me knows I'll bust my ass when the time comes or whatever that I have to get out of, and so I skirt close to the edge instead of giving it a constant push. Most of my procrastination is because of my value system it seems. i.e (logically I want to lose weight, but I do not value the things it takes to lose weight over their counterparts) So when the time comes for me to make the choice to do one over the other. My value system kicks in and I eat the snack or skip the workout, for whatever else I could be doing. (playing video games, or just laying around reading or whatever.)
I have yet to find a legit way to counter this.