And stil.... RBR BNG got no proper suspention, surface and tyre physics. And GFX is almost on a level with grandpa BRB. It does not help them to welcome customers over WF2 and many other "LOD-scared" guys.
@@darthsnape The fact that so many people are comparing a hyper modded rally simulator that is considered to be the best in his class with a general physics simulation that barely has any rally gameplay in it says a lot. The potential of BeamNg is through the roof. And @unotoli saying BeamNG suspension is worse than RBR is crazy, for the rest I agree with you
@@unotoli what do you mean "no proper suspension"?? you can literally see the suspension working and you can tune every part of it also it looks 100x better than rbr in every way, saying that rbr is graphically better than beamng makes me think you are just trolling
I'd say beamNG is my pick as soon the pace notes get implemented. It is less frustrating to make a mistake in beam because the crashes are so good.. but I think some of the RBR tracks will forever be king, especially on the pavement side of things
I have been playing a good mix of RBR and BeamNG for a few months now and to this day I’m unsure which I enjoy more. I don’t really mind RBR’s graphics and I can live with the slightly unoptimised performance of BeamNg. I too look forward to proper implementation of pacenotes and might start playing it more.
I don't suck half as much in other sims as i do on Beamng, but i will always come back to it just because the game makes mistakes seem completely harmless despite the wreck you leave behind being a ball of flaming steel compacted against a rock at 700mph 😂
@turbo_marc yeah but you need a lot of concentration to drive already and if you use FPV to play with a wheel it's esentially useless, at least that was my experience on a 32" monitor. I bet they're MAD weird with VR
as someone who played dirt rally 2 and ea WRC religiously, beamng rally is a great breath of fresh air. Having your front halfshaft break and make you understeer into a tree all because you hit a bump or curb wrong is almost satisfying even though you just ruined your possibly fast run. I cant wait for rally in beamng to evolve.
Very true. Trying to make it in one piece and making it a fast run are two things which are incredibly hard to pull off. The thrill is simply unmatched.
+1 for this! I know some people complain that some BeamNG cars (vanilla) are too fragile. Speaking from a lifetime of moderate daily driving to local autocross and rallycross, I feel like between the sim/rally choices, BeamNG makes me fear for my car much more like IRL. When an IRL spinout on a wet but otherwise normal pavement road curve at 25 mph (45 kph?) can cause $3000 damage and visibly camber a wheel from sideswiping a curb (as one of several personal examples), cars aren't that durable at some angles, at bicycle/faster speeds. I played the heck out of DR and DR2.0 (it helped indirectly prepare me for auto/rallycross later), Assetto Corsa, etc. I've never tried the more arcadey eye candy driving games. These games are all understandably intended to sell players a fantasy of being able to drive a car somewhat unsafely at high speeds. I have accidentally or deliberately yeeted my cars through corners and cuts that pinballed me hard, yet was still able to blithely carry on with my race with barely any steering damage. Not so in BeamNG. :D I can swap paint with other cars and guardrails. Ding some body panels, scrape off a bumper. I can even take a calculated gamble on driving straight over some smaller street curbs, gutters, or offroad corner shortcuts. But just like IRL, the game always forces me to seriously consider the calculus of reckless driving if my goal is to actually continue driving in a race.
@@dakaodo Fascinating. Perhaps rally cars aren't as fragile as beamNG's unofficial cars tend to be. Cherrier FCV for example. Even though it has a gravel and tarmac variant for rally, both tend to be overly fragile at times. But I do get the point, it is just using some base components and "rally" parts to make a version of said car, as opposed to having a proper purpose built rally car. I'm sure BeamNG devs can make this game into a proper rally sim.
I have about 840 hours in this game. Maybe about 600 of them are purely rallying. It's my favourite motorsport and I will never get tired of it. The point is, I have 350 hours in EA WRC, 220 hours in DiRT Rally, and about 348 hours in DiRT Rally 2.0. And yes, those games are brilliant and I really like them but Beam just feels different and in some ways, better. In fact, me and my friend are currently developing a full on rally event in BeamMP. It's not ready yet, but it will include thirteen rallies with 8-15 custom stages made by me per rally, one rally per week, with full on stage maps, custom race files and lots of other preparations. Basically we want to make a rally event in BeamNG as functional as possible. Will be fun to see if it works out how we want it to.
I don't have a lot of hours in this game as I heavily invested in Dirt rally 2.0 prior to my introduction to RBR and this beautiful thing. And I am in the same boat, I do like those games too, but BeamNG's deformation and random mechanical failures adds an extra layer of immersion which the masses aren't ready for yet. But I really wish to see a properly evolved beamNG rally system. I'm excited to see what you and your friend come up with. It's going to be legendary!
Jimmer had already said it before. Beam is currently the recipie for a rally masterpiece with it's great behaviour on low grip surfaces and extremely remarkable suspension behaviour. If the number of nodes on a tyre increases eventually it would also be a crazy improvement as it's the only area where i see slight flaws in handling and they're minor.
4:57 man I just missed the cutoff: I recently released "Custom Rally Pacenotes" and I bet you'd like it: I'm interested in what you think of the system and my pre recorded calls. Definitely open to feedback
I noticed that on the repository and thought you were collaborating with the devs 😂 guess it might be a good idea to ask for a job, they've hired modders before
Dude!! Just found your channel. Your videos are so well paced and your content is incredibly engaging - I love your mentality behind sim racing as a whole. Can't wait to see what you make next!
BeamNG feels the most intuitive to drive out of all the sims, it's amazing. It has it's fair share of shortcomings though, the most unfortunate one being that multiplayer is only supported by mods (BeamMP). As an overall package I'd say that RBR (RSF) is still ahead, but Beam is definitely worth your time.
Honestly my favorite thing about Beam Rally is that no other rally game is gonna let me take a fleet base model pickup, a police cruiser, HD flatbed van, or a just any awful creation you make in the garage. Beam will still time you and put you on the board, i dont think i have a single time set in a "rally" car.
I love BeamNG. The recent career gameplay component pulled me back into it, and now the rally component may help convince me to stick around for a while. I got the game in 2016, and it's come a long way. BeamNG is starting to really come together as a driving game built from first principles, ground up. But its seat at the rally sim table is still a jumble of finely engineered wooden sticks assembled with precision and meticulous care. There are still a number of sim racing elements that BeamNG has only begun to dig into more, recently. The chair is still half-finished, but man, it's already amazing. Just think what it might achieve in another decade (at which point BeamNG in 2034 will be as old as RBR is today).
P.S. Does the RBR+mod set simulate mechanical components to some degree like BeamNG does? You made a good point about mechanical damage. Running a car with too much boost or otherwise putting too much demand too fast on the engine, breaking half shafts, cracking a radiator, oil leaks, fuel leaks, botching gear shifts, etc aree all things I've never had to worry about to this degree in other sim racing games.
@@dakaodo Yes, RSF RBR does take mechanical components into consideration. The steering rack forces are accounted in for ffb. Even though you can't see the damage visually, there's a lot of ways you can end your race in RBR. You can damage the suspension components just as easily in there, it's just a tad bit, let's say less fragile, as those components are tuned for rally. But ultimately, yes, damage scale is insanely brutal. You can over rev the engine, damage the clutch, lose a tyre, get a puncture, have your actuators damaged, or even your pump.
i have sunk a few hours now into beamng's dirt rally (the pessima in jungle track) and it is so unforgiving which is so nice. if you get a lot of airtime, good luck landing without damaging your vehicle. if you even slightly tap a tree, your car may snap in half. i like beamng more :)
That’s exactly the reason why I find it so appealing. The amount of patience and determination required to master or even be remotely decent at it is incredible. It kind of forces you to grow and develop skills which would be otherwise seen as unattainable.
Just beginning this adventure and have no point of reference at this time. This is second time I have heard about BeamNG in as many days. The first was through SleepyPants SimRacing yesterday and now on this channel. Personally I am looking for sims at this point as opposed to games. Not knocking the game thing it is just a personal preference at this point in my journey. I will be getting this and RBR as soon as possible. Thanks for the input, will be looking through your content for more information and I am looking forward to whatever you post next. Subscribed and notifications set to "all."
Great video! Agree that both are good, maybe one day BeamNG will be the best rally sim. Also I love the little jokes too, like "may the downforce be with you"
@@darthsnape Hey, on this acc now We host a rally every thursday and wednesday (same event) at 6pm uk. (2 days so more ppl can compete) We run about 4 stages, 2 mins each. 1st stage is SSS (city stage or race track) and last one is powerstage. We have 2 car classes, BRC1 and 2 1 is 380hp awd, 1280kg and 2 is 215hp awd 1350kg, being the rookie class. We are also releasing a rwd class after this rally. On saturdays we host sprint rallies in brc1 cars. 1 stage, 3 runs, 2 best runs count towards ur time. More info is in our server
It's sad to see that BeamNG has a crushing public image problem (mostly entirely by YT shorts) which as an avid Beam player are sad to see. Beam is so much more than a sandbox. Hell, you can go from playing singleplayer rally to playing on full fledged roleplay servers with mods. The Beam community is great, especially once you get to know the right pepole. i have 700 hours in beam, and i couldn't reccomend it more; I've gone from playing casually to even knowing by memory the production years of certain (vanilla) cars.
I agree with you. I blame the non sensical YT short where a giant hammer crushing cars is being narrated by an annoying Ai voice. Aside from the popularity it has gained as a "crash simulator", there's so many levels which not a lot of people explore. The potential is really there.
Which one do you think wins the rally sim crown? BeamNG or RBR?
And stil.... RBR
BNG got no proper suspention, surface and tyre physics. And GFX is almost on a level with grandpa BRB.
It does not help them to welcome customers over WF2 and many other "LOD-scared" guys.
@@darthsnape The fact that so many people are comparing a hyper modded rally simulator that is considered to be the best in his class with a general physics simulation that barely has any rally gameplay in it says a lot.
The potential of BeamNg is through the roof.
And @unotoli saying BeamNG suspension is worse than RBR is crazy, for the rest I agree with you
@@Clemmort I agree. Imagine if BeamNG devs decide to make it a serious rally game. Nothing would come close.
@@unotoli I don't agree with you saying that bng suspension is bad but it's really well done and you should try it yourself
@@unotoli what do you mean "no proper suspension"?? you can literally see the suspension working and you can tune every part of it
also it looks 100x better than rbr in every way, saying that rbr is graphically better than beamng makes me think you are just trolling
I'd say beamNG is my pick as soon the pace notes get implemented. It is less frustrating to make a mistake in beam because the crashes are so good.. but I think some of the RBR tracks will forever be king, especially on the pavement side of things
I have been playing a good mix of RBR and BeamNG for a few months now and to this day I’m unsure which I enjoy more. I don’t really mind RBR’s graphics and I can live with the slightly unoptimised performance of BeamNg.
I too look forward to proper implementation of pacenotes and might start playing it more.
@@bearsjunky23hof88 hey bears!
I don't suck half as much in other sims as i do on Beamng, but i will always come back to it just because the game makes mistakes seem completely harmless despite the wreck you leave behind being a ball of flaming steel compacted against a rock at 700mph 😂
There kind of is pace notes. Even though they're not voiced they're still useful.
@turbo_marc yeah but you need a lot of concentration to drive already and if you use FPV to play with a wheel it's esentially useless, at least that was my experience on a 32" monitor. I bet they're MAD weird with VR
as someone who played dirt rally 2 and ea WRC religiously, beamng rally is a great breath of fresh air. Having your front halfshaft break and make you understeer into a tree all because you hit a bump or curb wrong is almost satisfying even though you just ruined your possibly fast run.
I cant wait for rally in beamng to evolve.
Very true. Trying to make it in one piece and making it a fast run are two things which are incredibly hard to pull off. The thrill is simply unmatched.
+1 for this! I know some people complain that some BeamNG cars (vanilla) are too fragile. Speaking from a lifetime of moderate daily driving to local autocross and rallycross, I feel like between the sim/rally choices, BeamNG makes me fear for my car much more like IRL. When an IRL spinout on a wet but otherwise normal pavement road curve at 25 mph (45 kph?) can cause $3000 damage and visibly camber a wheel from sideswiping a curb (as one of several personal examples), cars aren't that durable at some angles, at bicycle/faster speeds.
I played the heck out of DR and DR2.0 (it helped indirectly prepare me for auto/rallycross later), Assetto Corsa, etc. I've never tried the more arcadey eye candy driving games. These games are all understandably intended to sell players a fantasy of being able to drive a car somewhat unsafely at high speeds. I have accidentally or deliberately yeeted my cars through corners and cuts that pinballed me hard, yet was still able to blithely carry on with my race with barely any steering damage.
Not so in BeamNG. :D I can swap paint with other cars and guardrails. Ding some body panels, scrape off a bumper. I can even take a calculated gamble on driving straight over some smaller street curbs, gutters, or offroad corner shortcuts. But just like IRL, the game always forces me to seriously consider the calculus of reckless driving if my goal is to actually continue driving in a race.
@@dakaodo Fascinating. Perhaps rally cars aren't as fragile as beamNG's unofficial cars tend to be. Cherrier FCV for example. Even though it has a gravel and tarmac variant for rally, both tend to be overly fragile at times. But I do get the point, it is just using some base components and "rally" parts to make a version of said car, as opposed to having a proper purpose built rally car.
I'm sure BeamNG devs can make this game into a proper rally sim.
I have about 840 hours in this game. Maybe about 600 of them are purely rallying. It's my favourite motorsport and I will never get tired of it. The point is, I have 350 hours in EA WRC, 220 hours in DiRT Rally, and about 348 hours in DiRT Rally 2.0. And yes, those games are brilliant and I really like them but Beam just feels different and in some ways, better. In fact, me and my friend are currently developing a full on rally event in BeamMP. It's not ready yet, but it will include thirteen rallies with 8-15 custom stages made by me per rally, one rally per week, with full on stage maps, custom race files and lots of other preparations. Basically we want to make a rally event in BeamNG as functional as possible. Will be fun to see if it works out how we want it to.
I don't have a lot of hours in this game as I heavily invested in Dirt rally 2.0 prior to my introduction to RBR and this beautiful thing. And I am in the same boat, I do like those games too, but BeamNG's deformation and random mechanical failures adds an extra layer of immersion which the masses aren't ready for yet. But I really wish to see a properly evolved beamNG rally system.
I'm excited to see what you and your friend come up with. It's going to be legendary!
Jimmer had already said it before. Beam is currently the recipie for a rally masterpiece with it's great behaviour on low grip surfaces and extremely remarkable suspension behaviour. If the number of nodes on a tyre increases eventually it would also be a crazy improvement as it's the only area where i see slight flaws in handling and they're minor.
Agreed
4:57 man I just missed the cutoff: I recently released "Custom Rally Pacenotes" and I bet you'd like it: I'm interested in what you think of the system and my pre recorded calls. Definitely open to feedback
I'll definitely check it out! I'll update this comment once I do.
Yo
I noticed that on the repository and thought you were collaborating with the devs 😂 guess it might be a good idea to ask for a job, they've hired modders before
@@SleepyPantsSimRacing yo, looks like beam rally is a small world. Did you ever get to try it out?
@southern_potato i did, made a little video about what I'm hoping for it.
7:06 yoo blur that
Oh shit 😂 I didn't realise that until you pointed it out
Dude!! Just found your channel. Your videos are so well paced and your content is incredibly engaging - I love your mentality behind sim racing as a whole. Can't wait to see what you make next!
Same here. Can't wait to see what I make next. 😄Welcome friend!
Oof, the mentality of some people is something i would rather keep away from a video this "happy"... Too many tryhards everywhere.
@@Ferrari255GTO It's perfectly fine to feel that way. Preferences are a real thing.
same Holden
BeamNG feels the most intuitive to drive out of all the sims, it's amazing. It has it's fair share of shortcomings though, the most unfortunate one being that multiplayer is only supported by mods (BeamMP).
As an overall package I'd say that RBR (RSF) is still ahead, but Beam is definitely worth your time.
I agree. Despite its shortcomings, it is one hell of a sandbox.
Glad to see you spreading the awareness! :)
Hello Sleepypants! Thank you :)
I agree!
Ok, BeanNG, you are on this council, but we do not grant you the rank of master.
If not the master, then perhaps the boss before final boss? Maybe the Kaileena to Dahaka (RBR)?
@@darthsnapeoh, Beamng is 100% the Right Hand Man from Henry Stickmin 😂
Honestly my favorite thing about Beam Rally is that no other rally game is gonna let me take a fleet base model pickup, a police cruiser, HD flatbed van, or a just any awful creation you make in the garage. Beam will still time you and put you on the board, i dont think i have a single time set in a "rally" car.
I love BeamNG. The recent career gameplay component pulled me back into it, and now the rally component may help convince me to stick around for a while. I got the game in 2016, and it's come a long way.
BeamNG is starting to really come together as a driving game built from first principles, ground up. But its seat at the rally sim table is still a jumble of finely engineered wooden sticks assembled with precision and meticulous care. There are still a number of sim racing elements that BeamNG has only begun to dig into more, recently.
The chair is still half-finished, but man, it's already amazing. Just think what it might achieve in another decade (at which point BeamNG in 2034 will be as old as RBR is today).
P.S. Does the RBR+mod set simulate mechanical components to some degree like BeamNG does? You made a good point about mechanical damage. Running a car with too much boost or otherwise putting too much demand too fast on the engine, breaking half shafts, cracking a radiator, oil leaks, fuel leaks, botching gear shifts, etc aree all things I've never had to worry about to this degree in other sim racing games.
@@dakaodo Yes, RSF RBR does take mechanical components into consideration. The steering rack forces are accounted in for ffb. Even though you can't see the damage visually, there's a lot of ways you can end your race in RBR. You can damage the suspension components just as easily in there, it's just a tad bit, let's say less fragile, as those components are tuned for rally.
But ultimately, yes, damage scale is insanely brutal. You can over rev the engine, damage the clutch, lose a tyre, get a puncture, have your actuators damaged, or even your pump.
i have sunk a few hours now into beamng's dirt rally (the pessima in jungle track) and it is so unforgiving which is so nice. if you get a lot of airtime, good luck landing without damaging your vehicle. if you even slightly tap a tree, your car may snap in half. i like beamng more :)
That’s exactly the reason why I find it so appealing. The amount of patience and determination required to master or even be remotely decent at it is incredible. It kind of forces you to grow and develop skills which would be otherwise seen as unattainable.
@@darthsnape nice that we agree on this
Just beginning this adventure and have no point of reference at this time. This is second time I have heard about BeamNG in as many days. The first was through SleepyPants SimRacing yesterday and now on this channel. Personally I am looking for sims at this point as opposed to games. Not knocking the game thing it is just a personal preference at this point in my journey. I will be getting this and RBR as soon as possible. Thanks for the input, will be looking through your content for more information and I am looking forward to whatever you post next. Subscribed and notifications set to "all."
Welcome aboard, and thanks for the kind words! I'm glad you found the video helpful!
Yo! :)
Great video! Agree that both are good, maybe one day BeamNG will be the best rally sim. Also I love the little jokes too, like "may the downforce be with you"
Let’s hope beamNG would be out of beta by then.
great video! i'm sure as the rally mode will get developed this will become the best rally sim ever made!
Agreed!
Ive always dreamed of rally in beamng so i started my own beam rally championship, going pretty good
A rally championship you say? I'd love some details
@@darthsnape Hey, on this acc now
We host a rally every thursday and wednesday (same event) at 6pm uk. (2 days so more ppl can compete)
We run about 4 stages, 2 mins each. 1st stage is SSS (city stage or race track) and last one is powerstage.
We have 2 car classes, BRC1 and 2
1 is 380hp awd, 1280kg and 2 is 215hp awd 1350kg, being the rookie class. We are also releasing a rwd class after this rally.
On saturdays we host sprint rallies in brc1 cars. 1 stage, 3 runs, 2 best runs count towards ur time.
More info is in our server
It's sad to see that BeamNG has a crushing public image problem (mostly entirely by YT shorts) which as an avid Beam player are sad to see. Beam is so much more than a sandbox. Hell, you can go from playing singleplayer rally to playing on full fledged roleplay servers with mods. The Beam community is great, especially once you get to know the right pepole.
i have 700 hours in beam, and i couldn't reccomend it more; I've gone from playing casually to even knowing by memory the production years of certain (vanilla) cars.
I agree with you. I blame the non sensical YT short where a giant hammer crushing cars is being narrated by an annoying Ai voice. Aside from the popularity it has gained as a "crash simulator", there's so many levels which not a lot of people explore. The potential is really there.
gonna pick this up during the steam winter sale
Totally worth it. It is the ultimate simulator.
1:31 heyyy my guy showing face today. Okay buddy.
Haha, I thought it was about time. More stuff on the way!
4:28 FOV police lol
but yeah, love the video and love that there's more indians getting into sim racing
7:13 is the covet enjoying it tho
Covet needs to cover up.
@@darthsnape 😧