Cops Tried The Wrong Kid | He Fought Back ID Refusal?

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  • Reading up on case law can be very important. Lets examine case law as we watch a college law student devour a cop.
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  • @WeThePeopleUniversity
    @WeThePeopleUniversity  Рік тому +177

    I literally just posted a comment and it disappeared. I'm pretty sure I didn't delete my own comment...wow LOL Thanks UA-cam!
    New Mexico State University Police Department
    725 College Dr, Las Cruces
    NM 88003
    (575) 646-3311

    • @terrenceodonnell6347
      @terrenceodonnell6347 Рік тому +6

      Unfortunately not really, he gave up his ID

    • @elijahandtyliah6769
      @elijahandtyliah6769 Рік тому +8

      ​@@terrenceodonnell6347I understand where you are coming from bro... he alo had what he needed at that point

    • @lissanne9769
      @lissanne9769 Рік тому +3

      Thanks for your help. You are making a big difference in the world.

    • @terrenceodonnell6347
      @terrenceodonnell6347 Рік тому

      ​@@elijahandtyliah6769no I get it, but he should have stated it's hearsay....

    • @terrenceodonnell6347
      @terrenceodonnell6347 Рік тому

      Usless pigs

  • @littlebitlost
    @littlebitlost Рік тому +94

    "Here's the deal"
    They never disappoint.😂

    • @jamierupert7563
      @jamierupert7563 Рік тому +15

      It's ALLLWAAYYYYSSSS here's the deal. ALLWWAAYYSSSS.

    • @mariegarside8830
      @mariegarside8830 Рік тому +4

      Here's the deal. The cry of the police with air and cigarette smoke as probable cause.

    • @Frank.Melendrez
      @Frank.Melendrez Рік тому +9

      “Here’s the deal” translates to:
      Listen, I’m not 100% certain of the actual Law but…

    • @madtabby66
      @madtabby66 Рік тому

      Here’s the deal…..
      You either suck our jackboots or we will destroy your life.

    • @andrewcanady6644
      @andrewcanady6644 Рік тому

      HAHAHAA YOU’RE RIGHT! Man, very time I hear that die! 😹 🍻

  • @davidthornton3346
    @davidthornton3346 Рік тому +74

    "Did getting my ID determine if I had alcohol in this room?"
    Kid's right to be honest 😂

    • @atraxisdarkstar
      @atraxisdarkstar 7 місяців тому +3

      That's almost always the case. They ID you to run you for warrants to see if they can arrest you even if you're not committing a crime.

    • @steelstreet79
      @steelstreet79 7 місяців тому +2

      So if they didn't get you with what they suspect you... they will get you with a past crime or a active case? Or pat you down?

  • @HIMMLE
    @HIMMLE Рік тому +462

    Wait, cops in NM dont have qualified immunity?!? If only the whole of the US was like this.

    • @devonmarr9872
      @devonmarr9872 Рік тому +37

      It's great. It's why they didn't comply with the govenors confiscation decree

    • @jamierupert7563
      @jamierupert7563 Рік тому +46

      You can help with that by signing the petition at "Americans Against Qualified Immunity". It's quick and it's free. 4 states have abolished it. New Mexico IS one of them. Let's get the other 46. I hope you'll go and sign it.

    • @terrenceodonnell6347
      @terrenceodonnell6347 Рік тому +8

      ​@@jamierupert7563no there's not, only NM, Denver is a city, but the whole state of CO is still the same..

    • @marlock6573
      @marlock6573 Рік тому +4

      @@devonmarr9872 I'm pro-gun control, but that whole thing is idiocy.

    • @magos_0083
      @magos_0083 Рік тому +2

      Yeah but here in NM we’re always getting new cops, they come and go

  • @savagesociety85
    @savagesociety85 Рік тому +226

    I watched this the other day and it’s just ridiculous. Who ever called the cops is pitiful.

    • @vonwoolf9963
      @vonwoolf9963 Рік тому +13

      What makes you think someone called them ? Cops have the legal right to lie...

    • @DerbyBandit
      @DerbyBandit Рік тому

      Fucking snitches 🤣🤣

    • @alexanderrestaino1921
      @alexanderrestaino1921 Рік тому

      ​@@vonwoolf9963yarp no one called I'm from ABQ new Mexico las Cruces is a small town the cops knew this kid and I'm guessing we'll be seeing more videos of them harassing him

    • @drantil
      @drantil Рік тому +1

      @@vonwoolf9963 but come on, it's weird for the cops to show up in university grounds and start banging doors trying to fish for alcohol... it clearly was a prank from another student, someone was butthurt with one or more of the room mates and send them the cops, etc. It's so easy to make someone's life impossible in the US just by calling in a made up disturbance as an anonymous call...

    • @jessew5658
      @jessew5658 Рік тому +5

      ​@@vonwoolf9963so they just randomly picked this dude's room to check for alcohol?

  • @patrickcarleton3924
    @patrickcarleton3924 Рік тому +194

    I love how they say "We have reasonable suspicion of a possible crime."
    "Possible" is the key word here and they know it.

    • @jas2dn229
      @jas2dn229 Рік тому +9

      A definite maybe!!

    • @scriptles
      @scriptles Рік тому +9

      Its only a crime if a) it happened and b) he is under age.
      According to the 4th amendment, and Terry V. Ohio you can be detained for meerly "reasonable suspicion" but it must be able to be articulatable to a judge. In this case I don't see anything the cops are doing wrong but the guy should not have stepped out to talk to the cops. The correct way to handle this would be "do you have a warrant?" then you cannot come inside. And never step outside.
      Edit.. the only thing I see the cops do wrong is saying his name is needed for a report.. thats actually not how it works.. nor are you paid to do the officers report for them.

    • @matterofrights2344
      @matterofrights2344 Рік тому +11

      In truth the officers had no suspicion, they had the suspicion of an unreliable source. Hearsay is meaningless.

    • @lyssgoddess
      @lyssgoddess Рік тому +8

      @@scriptlesu cannot show up at someone’s door and accuse them of a crime… lmao that’s not how that works my guy 😂
      He is not concealing anything… he did not commit a crime. Someone saying he has alcohol? Lol you literally can’t do that. u can’t just show up and ACCUSE people of a crime lmao
      It literally does not work that way. Lol 😂
      He doesn’t have to prove he’s innocent…
      INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY!!!
      -veteran

    • @lyssgoddess
      @lyssgoddess Рік тому +5

      Reasonable suspicion is literally not probable cause 😂
      His choice of words was clever did he think we wouldn’t hear it? LOL😂

  • @tgsullivan1207
    @tgsullivan1207 Рік тому +172

    I thought the cops were going to cry. Not having qualified immunity makes a huge difference. This should happen in every state.

  • @Poos71
    @Poos71 Рік тому +156

    This kid just got his tuition paid for by unsubstantiated evidence and hearsay. Imagine how much alcohol he can afford now that they are paying for it.

    • @kevinzink9063
      @kevinzink9063 Рік тому +3

      An eyewitness is not hearsay. If someone saw him....and reported it...that is an eyewitness, which is acceptable in court.

    • @Croxby1
      @Croxby1 Рік тому +11

      @@kevinzink9063 Hearsay is a court term. They would have had to provide the witness in court in order to avoid hearsay.
      This was a case of not having to I.D., because there was no charges, no criminal act. There was suspicion, but no proof. A witness may CLAIM anything. But without proof, the cops have zero standing.
      So, forcing him to I.D. without a crime, or proof of a crime, is actionable because it is a violation of his constitutional rights.
      The reason they didn't get a warrant to enter, is because all they had was suspicion.
      No judge would have granted it.
      Them explaining that they weren't going to pursue getting a warrant, was their way of trying to save face to people who may not be aware that they're going to cost their city a lot of money, because their ego didn't let them walk away.

    • @NPCHSN
      @NPCHSN Рік тому +1

      No, he didn’t. He has no damages.

    • @kevinzink9063
      @kevinzink9063 Рік тому

      @@Croxby1 I was correcting the original posters misuse of hearsay.

    • @general_merten
      @general_merten Рік тому

      ​@@NPCHSNare you dumb ? You rights violated are damage. A farther WHO got Put in handcuffs for 11 minutes in a false arrest settled for 50.000 Dollars. He didnt Had any damage either besides 5 minutes of His Life.

  • @nativeboy36
    @nativeboy36 Рік тому +73

    That officer was literally shaking while talking to the student. I don’t think he was shaking because he was scared; but because he was frustrated. He wanted to go hands on but knew there would be consequences he would have to face at a later date by doing so.

  • @samalcaraz3967
    @samalcaraz3967 Рік тому +67

    Props to Joel for understanding the law and making these bullies look childish.

  • @bobbyp7403
    @bobbyp7403 Рік тому +455

    When a 19-year-old understands the law better than a police officer that's scary. Respect to this young man

    • @twain3074
      @twain3074 Рік тому

      cops don't care about the law or your Constitutional rights.. they simply want you to obey... USA policing is a sick and broken system.

    • @glasshousemtns
      @glasshousemtns Рік тому +1

      I’m surprised the security person could not authorise access to the dorm the user has use of, does not own and probably does not lease, certainly does not own.

    • @whearts
      @whearts Рік тому +1

      No respect, he gave up his ID, and we don't know that is his filing a lawsuit.

    • @mef9327
      @mef9327 Рік тому +14

      @@glasshousemtns
      I would think since it’s still his dwelling and he pays for it, he’s got nearly the same protections especially if this is a state school or accepts state/federal funds.

    • @gregkasza1925
      @gregkasza1925 Рік тому +8

      He knew. All of them did. Remember, it’s not that they can lie to you, they absolutely will lie to you.

  • @mathiask7959
    @mathiask7959 Рік тому +37

    By saying ‘’could’’ we’re trying to intimidate you into compliance while still covering our asses

  • @nickabel8279
    @nickabel8279 Рік тому +38

    Bravo to this young man for recognizing his rights and standing up for them. He has earned the title of man

  • @christiannielsen3300
    @christiannielsen3300 Рік тому +24

    What an absolute waste of resources for somebody they think might have alcohol unbelievable waste of resources

  • @6StimuL84
    @6StimuL84 Рік тому +34

    And the sgt. was dumb enough to make a terrorist threat to rob his id....DUMB Move......They also falsely imprisoned the roommate by stopping him from going into his property, the seizure was NOT based on probable cause, but on an anonymous hearsay report.....

  • @waywardsuol
    @waywardsuol Рік тому +61

    As soon as a cop says, "here's the deal.." you know you're dealing with a tyrant

    • @theresahenderson3534
      @theresahenderson3534 Рік тому +1

      Absolutely!

    • @morganmcintire2853
      @morganmcintire2853 Рік тому +2

      As soon as a person becomes a cop you know you're dealing with a tyrant.

    • @Parzival0
      @Parzival0 11 місяців тому

      ​@morganmcintire2853 ah guess you don't want cops in this country at all. Interesting opinion let's see how that works out.

    • @supercellonova
      @supercellonova 7 місяців тому

      I would immediately say, "I do not accept any deals from you, or your precinct, during this investigation that has no substantial evidence to support the allegations. Since there are no grounds to detain me, I am going back into my room, and I wish you a great day."

  • @michaelarmstrong7952
    @michaelarmstrong7952 Рік тому +45

    I watched this the other day! Total violation of his rights

    • @lyssgoddess
      @lyssgoddess Рік тому

      “Are you googling the laws right now?” 😂😂😂😂😂😂bruh 😂😆😭 im weak

  • @anarky4711
    @anarky4711 Рік тому +27

    "I'm not trying to violate your rights" he says while trying to violate his rights.

  • @vedayoder7862
    @vedayoder7862 7 місяців тому +1

    Aniyah YOU have my at most respect You have stepped up to helped “ We The People “ You are a man of integrity !!! I can relate to you walking away from your service as a sheriff deputy and a police officer I did the same 40 years ago I quickly became aware of the corruption that was quietly brewing behind the scenes It reminded me of the groups ,That if you didn’t go along with these so called police I moved on to try and make a difference and am ashamed to say I lost site of THAT goal anof family

  • @Auto..Payge.
    @Auto..Payge. Рік тому +54

    The COP THEMSELVES needs a single articulated fact that THEY know a crime has been committed .. not just HEARSAY .. otherwise just calling the cops and saying whatever you want would end in arrest everytime.

    • @chuck8094
      @chuck8094 Рік тому

      America is moving in that direction. Cops arrest anybody they want to because they will suffer no penalties. Just today, Steve Lehto reported on a Circuit Court ruling that cops can arrest anybody and try to find some infraction or crime later.

    • @tomasdiaz1974
      @tomasdiaz1974 Рік тому +4

      I would have said, "I saw your momma sniffing cocaine. Go investigate and harass her."

    • @-caspo-
      @-caspo- Рік тому

      I may be misunderstanding this cause I’m not a lawyer or anything but from what the video said, they could not arrest him because of the suspicion and they never claimed to. They thought they could arrest him because he was refusing to ID himself and they had in their minds a reasonable suspicion that he was involved in criminal activity. Whether or not a court would actually find that to be the case, I don’t know, but certainly you can’t be arrested just for being suspected of a crime. So no, I don’t think calling the cops and saying whatever you want would result in an arrest every time because if you give them your ID, they have no reason to arrest you. Remember, the fifth amendment specifically protects your right to refuse to answer questions when you have a reasonable belief that answering them may incriminate yourself. Again, I’m not a lawyer, but it seems to me that he believed that giving the cops his ID could not in any way incriminate himself so his refusal to do so would not be protected by the fifth amendment. Please correct me if I said anything wrong.

    • @o_groupie
      @o_groupie Рік тому +1

      ​​​@@-caspo- Ullman v United States, Slochowder v Board of Education... "a witness may have a reasonable fear of prosecution and yet be innocent of any wrongdoing."

    • @-caspo-
      @-caspo- Рік тому +1

      @@o_groupie I don’t think he has a reasonable fear of prosecution because he rhetorically asked if giving the cops giving his ID would help them in their investigation, implying that it wouldn’t. We don’t even know if he’s innocent or not.

  • @erich6860
    @erich6860 Рік тому +33

    Holy smokes,,, these two officers are just smart enough to not threaten him with arrest, but still keep trying over and over to get what they want. It is amazing to see the cogs in their heads turn trying to find a way around his knowledge.

    • @finerbiner
      @finerbiner Рік тому

      Yes, the comments pretending cops, "don't know the law" are way off.
      They know the law and this cunty doubletalk proves it.
      They just don't want to give up on their implied threat.

    • @beepbop6697
      @beepbop6697 Рік тому +3

      Yet, they did eventually threaten him with arrest if he refused to ID -- now the kid has a case to go over these cops who don't have qualified immunity in New Mexico.

    • @erich6860
      @erich6860 Рік тому

      @@beepbop6697 Isn't grand :-)

    • @blakeg7062
      @blakeg7062 Рік тому +1

      Except they did. Maybe actually watch the video before commenting

    • @erich6860
      @erich6860 Рік тому +1

      @@blakeg7062 Eventually, it took an awful lot of time. Which is why I did not bother to talk about it. I was not going to write a book on the entire video to make a point about the longest and most entertaining part.
      Maybe take a chill pill before commenting.

  • @JudyendqualifiedimmunityPenn
    @JudyendqualifiedimmunityPenn Рік тому +127

    Since you gave up your ID under threat of arrest make sure you bring charges against that officer as he violated your rights!! You did not have to give up your ID!!

    • @6StimuL84
      @6StimuL84 Рік тому +24

      Also falsely imprisoned the roommate, violated his rights.

    • @brianbagnall3029
      @brianbagnall3029 Рік тому +9

      There is no way he should have handed over his ID. They won and will keep violating rights.

    • @sintanan469
      @sintanan469 Рік тому +18

      @@brianbagnall3029 Not in NM. No qualified immunity. That cop is in _trouble._

    • @MrBeevee5
      @MrBeevee5 Рік тому +8

      @@sintanan469 Only if the kid sues

    • @siphious2911
      @siphious2911 Рік тому +5

      @@MrBeevee5 that and as if a college student is gonna have the extra money offhand for a lawyer lmao

  • @fredfuchs69
    @fredfuchs69 Рік тому +11

    Without qualified immunity those cops are trying to be 100% cautious of what they say in front of the camera and this kid completely called them out on their bs

  • @ortizguard2816
    @ortizguard2816 Рік тому +36

    It sounds like a joke, 'so 3 cops walk into a university'. Those public servants really need to take some courses on law and Rights!

    • @robertschwartzman195
      @robertschwartzman195 Рік тому +4

      They need to have a 20 hour course on civil rights.
      Yes New Mexixo doesn't have Qualified Immunity.
      I would like to see a follow up on this case. When a law student knows more about law then a cop the cops have to worry.
      The student made certain that the cop threatened to arrest him if he didn't show ID. The cops should be put on The Brady List and be sued.

  • @nickabel8279
    @nickabel8279 Рік тому +49

    "If u want to go down this route we can" cops making threats and the courts have and continue to back this up

    • @-caspo-
      @-caspo- Рік тому

      How is that a threat?

    • @thepax2621
      @thepax2621 Рік тому

      ​@@-caspo-Implying consequences for insisting on your rights

    • @-caspo-
      @-caspo- Рік тому

      @@thepax2621 Or implying that it would be tedious/annoying to go through the hassle of him denying them his ID. You can only go off of the cops actual words, not what you think he might be implying.

    • @thepax2621
      @thepax2621 Рік тому +1

      @@-caspo- Which is why he worded it the way he did, its still not hard to grasp the meaning.
      He was alleging to possible retaliation, trying to get compliance by fear. Let the subjects imagination run its course and collect the result.
      Everyone knows that you can beat the rap, but you can't beat the ride.

    • @-caspo-
      @-caspo- Рік тому

      @@thepax2621 how do you know the officer’s intentions?

  • @usashaz
    @usashaz Рік тому +20

    I've really enjoyed watching you ramp up this channel, and continually promote legal rights understanding. Keep up the great work!

  • @mileshamblen9982
    @mileshamblen9982 Рік тому +37

    The only reason they did not charge with disorderly is because they knew the kid knew the chief, second they violated law; third a kid is smarter than them.

    • @larrybrinley8222
      @larrybrinley8222 Рік тому

      19 is NOT a kid unLess you're over 70

    • @mileshamblen9982
      @mileshamblen9982 Рік тому +1

      @@larrybrinley8222 19 is a kid especially today.

    • @madtabby66
      @madtabby66 Рік тому

      @@larrybrinley8222
      In the USA you’re not an adult until you’re 21.

    • @MaryEverling
      @MaryEverling Рік тому

      @@larrybrinley8222It's about maturity, I have a 19 yr old.. he is a kid!

  • @michaelkivler3558
    @michaelkivler3558 Рік тому +22

    It’s amazing when a cop that goes to a police academy for 4-5 maybe 6 months is going to argue with a person that is going to LAW SCHOOL for 4 yrs we’re they study law only and nothing else!

  • @seanachack6249
    @seanachack6249 Рік тому +5

    I love that he was forcing them to threaten him with arrest rather than allowing them to continue "asking" which is exactly how they would report it.

  • @dontask77
    @dontask77 Рік тому +10

    Outstanding.
    He handled himself the way we all should.

  • @arthurminiear2904
    @arthurminiear2904 Рік тому +31

    I loved the end of this, when the young man granted them an expletive filled goodbye, as they took that walk of shame. Unfortunately for them I get the impression, this college kid will follow up on having his 4th amendment violated, just so they could satisfy their ID addiction. And throughout the gaslighting to the lanyard ID'd dorm staff, the sergeant eluded that the caller was anonymous, which indicates he knew he wouldn't get a warrant, even if he tried. Also saying they weren't going to get a search warrant, apparently in hopes the college could do something he knew wasn't going to happen for him. What came off as absurd was his interpretation that litigation was somehow a threat, when every officer there was literally there to try imposing possible criminal litigation upon the student, and trying to justify their threatening behavior as if it's somehow different. This college kid knew his rights, and the assertion he'd pursue litigation definitely had the sergeant pumping the brakes really hard, and in very short order. But that Addiction to ID's, was too strong, and he had to throw out that threat of arrest, and the possibility of criminal litigation, rather than walk away from this kobiashi maru ( star trek reference) no win scenario. Which was the only way to win. But alas, they even screwed that up.

    • @EricK-tb2dn
      @EricK-tb2dn Рік тому +2

      When they asked if was a threat he should have said "No Its a promise".

    • @TheLuuman
      @TheLuuman Рік тому +1

      @@EricK-tb2dn personally saying "oh thats no threat, thats not a threat" is way more intimidating after saying you're a law student.

  • @MrObie29
    @MrObie29 Рік тому +4

    Joel did great, especially at the end.

  • @pipi7731
    @pipi7731 Рік тому +12

    One thing I like about these videos is he is always telling you what the actual law is and even lets you read it. Surely, the person that supposedly made the call had to leave a name with the dispatcher. Then there is the other point about that person being an upstanding citizen and trustworthy. So the cops were wrong from the very beginning. Keep up the good work and I hope the young man gets his degree in law and becomes a good lawyer. We certainly need them.

    • @heathboeddeker5401
      @heathboeddeker5401 5 місяців тому

      We need Lawyers that actually Defend and Uphold the Consitution not the un- consitutional rules and regulations

  • @cannatroll1529
    @cannatroll1529 Рік тому +53

    We need law students that will do exactly that in court rooms.

    • @mycophile6113
      @mycophile6113 Рік тому

      Law students don’t appear in court rooms, only lawyers. And you don’t refuse to ID as a lawyer in a court room - to the contrary, you state your name and bar number for the record.

    • @cannatroll1529
      @cannatroll1529 Рік тому +1

      @@mycophile6113 it is no longer required for anyone to be bar associates, besides that you must have missed the point.

    • @hellogooooo
      @hellogooooo Рік тому

      Except he isn't a law student...there's no way a 19 year old is enrolled in law school....too young

    • @BenFilley
      @BenFilley Рік тому

      @@hellogooooo no he isn’t lol. Colleges don’t have age requirements like that. He’s clearly a bright kid, who understands his rights. Go mix up another pitcher of hateraid, it’s obvious you already drank that last one.

    • @cannatroll1529
      @cannatroll1529 Рік тому

      @@gretchenk.2516 i have never been to "law school" but i am still a student of the law. Everyone for their own protection should be. Really we shouldn't have to hire attorneys to interpret the law to us they should be written in a way that the average high school graduate can comprehend as it used to be.

  • @jamierupert7563
    @jamierupert7563 Рік тому +8

    They always forget to tell them "I don't work for you, I'm not helping you with your investigation of me.

  • @azaguero8170
    @azaguero8170 Рік тому +8

    After seeing so many of these videos I’m left wondering how much of this was his education and how much was it prolific services offered by channels like yours… either way it’s becoming the standard and that’s amazing!!

  • @l3ostonzach343
    @l3ostonzach343 Рік тому +38

    I hope he sues them, and it pays for his tuition. We need this man to become a lawyer.

    • @mariegarside8830
      @mariegarside8830 Рік тому +3

      This young man needs to become a lawyer as soon as humanly possible.

    • @robertschwartzman195
      @robertschwartzman195 Рік тому +10

      Better yet let him become a judge. He would make sure cops play by the law.

    • @Nalianna
      @Nalianna Рік тому

      Dudes just got a free house.

    • @xmarine73
      @xmarine73 Рік тому

      ​@@robertschwartzman195you have to be a lawyer first, and for a bit of time, before you can be a judge...

    • @beepbop6697
      @beepbop6697 Рік тому +1

      ​@@xmarine73nope. Anyone can be elected to be a judge with zero qualifications -- all they need is the vote.

  • @bpdmf2798
    @bpdmf2798 Рік тому +8

    For sure 1 semester in law school is much more law training than any cop is required to have.

  • @gregdoh
    @gregdoh Рік тому +13

    Joel gave those tyrants so many chances to both do the right thing and avoid a lawsuit, and they just didn't get it. He got REALLY pissed the moment the cop acted under color of law with the threat of arrest (even though he has easy grounds for a lawsuit now). And you can tell he's a kind person too, even thanking the other cop for being professional, trying his best to help them do things lawfully, and only swearing at the tyrant who violated his rights.

  • @alisonviscosi5518
    @alisonviscosi5518 Рік тому +32

    I honestly hope he sued these Clowns! What a waste of OUR time! Because we have to pay them!

    • @holisticstarhealing8673
      @holisticstarhealing8673 Рік тому +2

      They are all in on it

    • @williamthomas4617
      @williamthomas4617 Рік тому +9

      He’s a law student… I doubt he made them threaten arrest, for the id, so he could NOT sue them. He’d love to have his name on a case like this, I’m sure. A fourth amendment violation, post qualified immunity, is a law student’s wet dream.

    • @chuck8094
      @chuck8094 Рік тому

      14:55 the cop did threaten arrest. He took the bait. It's all recorded. @@williamthomas4617

    • @grantnoroyan4083
      @grantnoroyan4083 Рік тому

      LOL HE COULDNT SUE ANYONE!!!

    • @TheLuuman
      @TheLuuman Рік тому

      @@grantnoroyan4083 Watch yo tounge lil boy, these commentors will embaress you publicly.

  • @conniebrown983
    @conniebrown983 Рік тому +7

    This guy makes me proud to say I am an alumni of this school!! It’s nice to see they’ve really fixed that dorm up since I lived there 3 decades ago! The University Police sucked back then and now I’m realizing they have gotten worse!! This kid rocks and he makes me very proud!! Since when is hearsay RAS!?!

    • @robertschwartzman195
      @robertschwartzman195 Рік тому +2

      You should have seen the old dorms in Kean College in Union,NJ. They were torn down.

    • @tomasdiaz1974
      @tomasdiaz1974 Рік тому

      "I hear your momma was sniffing cocaine from your sister's azz crack. Go investigate her. " That's what I would have said!!!

  • @tmmelendezcooahz
    @tmmelendezcooahz Рік тому +18

    Correct me if Im wrong, but I could have sworn that an anonymous tip does not give police RAS.

    • @elijahandtyliah6769
      @elijahandtyliah6769 Рік тому

      Depending on hlthe according to the case law he read

    • @chrislake3081
      @chrislake3081 Рік тому

      Not it never gives RAS . That's why they have to investigate the claim . It's circular nonsense in their mind to deprive your rights .
      It's been well established that cops fake calls all the time . Calls that never happened. It won't hold in court
      It has to be very specific and reliable information given to police to count as RAS . Very rare would that ever give RAS because people aren't reliable. Karen's call all the time for nothing .

    • @TheLuuman
      @TheLuuman Рік тому +2

      Weeeeeellll there is a few parts that go into it. They investigate the tip, but no RAS is given from that. If the tip leads to you meeting a slurring kid who smells like beer, then you'd have some RAS. These cops ran into a kid wide awake and in perfect sober condition claiming he was study...in a dorm room. They had nothing.

    • @baddriversofthenorcalarea500
      @baddriversofthenorcalarea500 9 місяців тому

      It does.

  • @BouillaBased
    @BouillaBased Рік тому +13

    "You got something more than an unsupported statement by someone you can't even identify, officer? Because that's what it's going to take to convince me that this is anything more than a consensual contact."

  • @robertschwartzman195
    @robertschwartzman195 Рік тому +5

    I hope this law student filed a lawsuit against the cops for violating his rights.

  • @nickabel8279
    @nickabel8279 Рік тому +13

    10:08 you can see the cop getting frustrated and thinking up what rights violations he can attempt to get away.
    Then he wants to take a potential lawsuit as a threat

  • @Jeff_11B
    @Jeff_11B Рік тому +2

    That Sgt was nervous as hell, voice trembling, hands shaking.... 😂

  • @Bream243
    @Bream243 Рік тому +23

    If you talk to the police, you need to be careful. The police said, "someone saw you talking beer into your room." The student later said to a friend that showed up, "Some one said they saw me me take a case of beer into the room." Would have happened if the police spoke up and said, " we did not say case of beer, we said beer."?
    I also think he should not have stepped out of his room.

    • @Fps_junky333
      @Fps_junky333 Рік тому +3

      Made a couple mistakes like announcing his age, and the officer did say case of beer later on so im not sure that part mattered.

    • @BXBZ88
      @BXBZ88 Рік тому +3

      At 7:51 the LEO asked about a "case of beer ".

    • @Bream243
      @Bream243 Рік тому

      I think that was after the student's comment@@BXBZ88

    • @Bream243
      @Bream243 Рік тому

      I believe the police said that after the student's comment. If the police had picked up on it at that time, it might have been a problem.@@Fps_junky333

  • @aaronhansen706
    @aaronhansen706 Рік тому +3

    This is something that the institute for justice should take up. This should go well on a resume

  • @abigailbp9294
    @abigailbp9294 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for all you do educating the public!

  • @iconoclastic12007
    @iconoclastic12007 Рік тому +13

    What kind of scumbag narcs on another college student who has a case of beer in his room?

    • @erich6860
      @erich6860 Рік тому +2

      He's a law student. There is always the possibility that they had someone call on them just to see if the police would do exactly what they did. I mean there could be some over zealous Dudley do right on the floor, or an ex girlfriend just trying to get even.
      In the end it does not matter. The kid was 100% right. His ID does not prove he does or does not have alcohol in his room, and the piggies have no right to search, and thus have no right to demand ID.

    • @madtabby66
      @madtabby66 Рік тому

      One he wouldn’t share with?
      The nerdy True Christian(tm) who thinks alcohol is a demon?

    • @adrinneladrinnel0403
      @adrinneladrinnel0403 8 місяців тому

      A RACIST Ken or Karen that's what kind! And I'm glad the Mexican student finally said what he knew their motivation was RACISM!

  • @rlbk525
    @rlbk525 Рік тому +1

    I love how during the cops’ walk shame the students sang the nah, nah, nah, nah, hey, hey, hey…GOODBYE song! 🎶 🤣

  • @SomeRandomHuman717
    @SomeRandomHuman717 Рік тому +9

    Joelle just had his college education paid for by these two Keystone Kops. Now all he needs is a good lawyer.

  • @Forsaken_Outlaw
    @Forsaken_Outlaw Рік тому

    Bravo to this young man!!!

  • @Austin-co1zt
    @Austin-co1zt Рік тому +6

    The extent of a police investigation in 2023:
    Tell us what you did

  • @wbrickey
    @wbrickey Рік тому

    As you know, there are many sites which show questionable police activity and many of them are very good. Yours are the best.

  • @geneevans7885
    @geneevans7885 Рік тому +3

    The greatest was when the kid said his age and called him out and the cop said don’t be like that. That shit said it all 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @poochiew.9302
    @poochiew.9302 Рік тому +16

    This makes me think of a time when my sister worked at a gas station and a customer came in drunk off her ass. They called the cops on her and were told that because they(the cops) didn't see this woman driving themselves, that they couldn't do anything. Yet in this case, someone supposedly saw this guy with a case of beer, and they come investigate.

    • @ddognine
      @ddognine Рік тому

      I don't think we got the full story. This was university police, so very likely on university grounds in university housing which likely has strict rules against alcohol that could potentially get you kicked out of housing and even expelled. And students probably sign away many of their Constitutional rights in the housing agreement. So, I'd say this student was lucky the cops were so nice and backed down. They were probably well within their rights to search the room even if it was an anonymous tip.

    • @lydellackerman800
      @lydellackerman800 Рік тому

      wouldnt that still depend on whether or not the college is private or public?@@ddognine

  • @donnyseputis6288
    @donnyseputis6288 Рік тому +7

    It was all about putting his name in the crime data base. Had nothing to do with a crime, we all seen that after they didn't pursue the matter right after he got the ID. Tax funding time comes around they need to have more crime gets more money. All over the country this is what law enforcement does, absolutely pathetic at the expense of innocent people.

  • @MegamanNT
    @MegamanNT Рік тому +3

    I love how Joel just drops his filter when he gets threatened with arrest. XD

  • @kiimmig2293
    @kiimmig2293 Рік тому +5

    THIS WAS AMAZING! We need to make sure he graduates!

  • @ebdotsa
    @ebdotsa Рік тому +2

    Cop: So you're threatening to
    sue us?
    Me: Are you threatening to
    violate my civil rights?

  • @DJ_Sycottic
    @DJ_Sycottic Рік тому +7

    Being old enough to go to a university but not being able to drink alcohol sounds crazy to a non American. In the UK if you are underage they will just confiscate your alcohol, they would never ask you if they can search your room.
    Once you're 18 you are no longer classed as a minor so why can't you drink, it's madness...

    • @mk8446
      @mk8446 Рік тому +1

      💯

    • @mintjulius275
      @mintjulius275 Рік тому +1

      You can go to war and kill or die, but still can't legally drink. I explained that to a marine recruiter as a teen who was trying to sign me up.
      He was just like "if you wanna drink you'll be able to drink"
      Like bro, that was *not* the point i was trying to make

  • @bucktaylor9178
    @bucktaylor9178 Рік тому +1

    Hats off to this young man.

  • @katmac5609
    @katmac5609 Рік тому +1

    "We could get a search warrant????" 🤣
    Over a possible case of beer??
    Tell it to the judge

  • @marinosipod
    @marinosipod Рік тому +3

    Listening to the video the cop said he needed his ID for the officers REPORT. The law doesn't require anyone to provide ID for a report.
    The law requires it for a crime that they can prove.

  • @Pi2nK
    @Pi2nK Рік тому

    "Here's the deal" the inevitable precursor to "I am about to attempt to violate your rights".

  • @ATXAdventure
    @ATXAdventure Рік тому +3

    He did a good job in the first half but lost the plot in the second half. Never state that you are setting up litigation, never use profanity or derogatory terms, be polite and cordial, and clear in your intent. That goes a long way if and when it goes to court.

  • @garyheiny2820
    @garyheiny2820 8 місяців тому

    Good job he is very sharp and thinks on his feet . He will be a good lawyer

  • @andrewjohnson6162
    @andrewjohnson6162 Рік тому +4

    the force is strong with this boy

  • @mariegrayson628
    @mariegrayson628 Рік тому +16

    Why is the cop hiding from the camera?

    • @adriansrealm
      @adriansrealm Рік тому +3

      It's more bad camera work than trying to avoid the camera.

  • @brock3332
    @brock3332 Рік тому

    Thanks brother for all these. Informational and hilarious.

  • @michelerenem
    @michelerenem 10 місяців тому

    I hope this young man becomes a lawyer!! He's brilliant. Much much MUCH respect.

  • @alliecollin1748
    @alliecollin1748 Рік тому +2

    'In possession of alcohol....'.....do they SEE alcohol on his person???? STUPID COPS!!! 🤬🤬🤬

  • @josephmama9657
    @josephmama9657 Рік тому

    Hahah “have a nice day.” Joel: “eff u” 😂😂😂 giant balls ese.
    Das dat 1st amendment vato!

  • @nonenone-ll7ln
    @nonenone-ll7ln Рік тому +5

    chances are high that the anonymous caller had a good idea, if not real knowledge, of the "suspects" age.
    especially if he does not actually have beer in his room (false report). SWATTING is a very real thing.

    • @drestnar
      @drestnar Рік тому

      Swatting is why I am now a firm believer in You will comply or die.
      They dont care. The dont know how to apply the graham principle from graham vs conner
      A call trumps all

  • @ericklou2013
    @ericklou2013 Рік тому +2

    That kid is going to be a great lawyer one day.

    • @dominiqueakpore330
      @dominiqueakpore330 Рік тому +1

      ​@@bojohannesen4352so him protecting his rights is him bring rude? You just expected him to follow unlawful commands.

  • @MrScrawnjuan
    @MrScrawnjuan Рік тому +3

    So basically he showed his subordinate to always get the ID no matter what

  • @Chaoitcme
    @Chaoitcme Рік тому

    I watched this video yesterday on another channel and respect that student a lot.
    He is not a kid but a legal adult and going to law school.

  • @skaterlover1999
    @skaterlover1999 Рік тому +3

    Don't forget, they also said he "threatened" them just because he said he'd sue. Since when is telling someone you will sue them a threat? Nah, I would have simply stated it's not a "threat", it's a PROMISE! Shotout to that young man for standing his ground, calling them for what they are, and I hope he actually DOES sue them. FYI, just got my merch! Thank you for all you do!

    • @morganmcintire2853
      @morganmcintire2853 Рік тому

      I hope he follows through and sues them for everything and they lose they're cushy jobs. I know it's not going to happen but we can dream can't we?

    • @skaterlover1999
      @skaterlover1999 Рік тому

      @@morganmcintire2853 let's not put anything negative into the atmosphere. Positive thinking and remembering that it takes that ONE precedence, encounter, and right people behind it to create change.

    • @baddriversofthenorcalarea500
      @baddriversofthenorcalarea500 9 місяців тому

      @@morganmcintire2853 So you prefer they just be fired instead of trained the correct way? No wonder cops make mistakes. People like you WANT them to.

  • @aajohnsoutube
    @aajohnsoutube Рік тому

    The cop articulated it very well.

  • @Nos-Sumus-Deus
    @Nos-Sumus-Deus Рік тому +4

    This guy is gonna be a great attorney

    • @Nos-Sumus-Deus
      @Nos-Sumus-Deus Рік тому

      @@bojohannesen4352 bro. Go worry about hiring n recruiting elsewhere. Lol

  • @tjohnson9051
    @tjohnson9051 Рік тому +2

    I like that young man. First he ties them in knots with the law and then sends them on the walk of shame. Bea utiful!

  • @sethrussell5649
    @sethrussell5649 Рік тому +6

    This is why you never answer the door for police officers. Just don’t open the door!

    • @PGreat7
      @PGreat7 Рік тому

      A little different in this instance... law boy doesn't own the room. Owners and their employees could have easily opened the door for the cops anyways... ✌🏾

  • @ShannonQueen50
    @ShannonQueen50 11 місяців тому

    WOW!!! What a difference in attitude when not protected not protected by qualified immunity!!

  • @Xxxxxx2x
    @Xxxxxx2x Рік тому +3

    Love it when he starts sweating the complaints to the chief

  • @chrisdanielson1219
    @chrisdanielson1219 Рік тому +2

    They got their ID fix. Wow. All to prove they have the power. What a horrible look.

  • @theDY363
    @theDY363 Рік тому +3

    Without qualified immunity they actually try to do due diligence and look things up. We all need that.

  • @joelcasler4392
    @joelcasler4392 Рік тому +2

    Funny how if you are legally detained you have the right to have an attorney present during questioning but if you refuse to answer questions without an attorney they get very upset.

  • @DarkPesco
    @DarkPesco Рік тому +7

    I only heard the cop say "with alcohol". Later the dude said "a case of beer". Maybe that was mentioned and I didn't catch it. Alcohol was mentioned a couple of times but I don't remember beer being mentioned until the college kid said it.
    Am I siding with the cops? No. He's a college kid. Let him have his case of beer! You know the old saying: "You only college once!"

    • @IsmetPeci1
      @IsmetPeci1 Рік тому

      Stupid old saying..

    • @ThatGuy-vi8ch
      @ThatGuy-vi8ch Рік тому

      He said beer, later the other officer said case of beer. Alcohol means different things to different people. To me, I'd have said there's no liquor in my room. That doesn't mean I have alcohol, that just means I enjoy spirit over beer. Whether I'm of age doesn't matter if I have no alcohol.

  • @bigtastey7707
    @bigtastey7707 Рік тому

    This was classic right down to the Google search on camera.

  • @kannyradotv3241
    @kannyradotv3241 Рік тому +3

    But the ID didn’t help them knowing wether or not there was alcohol in the room.

  • @jefffeathers9116
    @jefffeathers9116 Рік тому

    Always film the police and dont answer questions! Well done kid!!

  • @jeffross7850
    @jeffross7850 Рік тому +6

    Love this guy keep it up 🇺🇸

  • @cravenmoorehead6219
    @cravenmoorehead6219 Рік тому

    Hope he filed suit against these tyrants.

  • @michaelweston2285
    @michaelweston2285 Рік тому +15

    for a law student that doesn't answer questions, he sure did talk to the cops an awful lot. he even gave up his age at one point before giving up his license. hopefully this will teach him to actually plead the 5th and not say _anything_ .

    • @conemagnet6461
      @conemagnet6461 Рік тому +1

      I never understand why the people in these videos talk so much. I suppose it's awkward and tense, so the natural inclination is to avoid silence and staring.
      I'm just waiting for the video where the citizen says, "You know I don't have to ID. You know it! You're just waiting for me to do something stupid so you can put me in cuffs." And then they shut up and stay shut up.

    • @madtabby66
      @madtabby66 Рік тому +2

      He was having fun.

    • @MyNameJeff..
      @MyNameJeff.. Рік тому

      @@conemagnet6461Because he’s a cocky, 19 year old who knows the law. I acted the same way back then, before body cams. Which was stupid. Now at 35, any interaction will be “Am I being detained” “did I commit a crime.” “Fuck off”

    • @weirdo911aw
      @weirdo911aw Рік тому +2

      @@conemagnet6461 I wouldnt judge someone unless I was put in the same situation as them. It's easy to say "I would do this if I were him"

  • @georgedreisch2662
    @georgedreisch2662 Рік тому +3

    If they don’t know who he is, how do they know he is a minor or who to engage in the first place?

  • @davidvalleysr.8223
    @davidvalleysr.8223 11 місяців тому +1

    Know your rights people

  • @williamruiz3889
    @williamruiz3889 Рік тому +3

    When he sues you, I hope that he gets enough to cover at least half of the student loans that he’s had to take out in order to become a lawyer. Can you imagine if a law student can wipe the floor with them as bad as this kid dead can you imagine what a season attorney will do in court.. I can’t wait.

    • @nickabel8279
      @nickabel8279 Рік тому

      Just remember. Its the citizens paying all lawsuits

    • @blademasterii
      @blademasterii Рік тому

      @@nickabel8279 with no qualified immunity......not necessarily the case... and he knew it.

  • @markbroughton5814
    @markbroughton5814 Рік тому

    So that kid couldnt keep unopened beers in his refrigerator for when his dad came by??....

  • @michaelturner2522
    @michaelturner2522 Рік тому

    THIS KID IS MY HERO LOL! This is a perfect example of karma and how things come back around to us full circle ! Those cops found the right one!