Lectron Billetron Adjustable Motorcycle Carburetor
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- Опубліковано 5 сер 2024
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The updated Lectron Billetron 38 Carburetor provides better throttle response, more bottom end power and better fuel economy in a more compact design machined of billet aluminum. Using their proven metering rod technology, Lectron’s carburetor is able to self-adjust to conditions that would otherwise negatively affect your air-to-fuel ratio and cause poor performance. The newest generation Billetron features a finer idle adjustment, more precise tuning on the metering rod, new choke design, new slide design, metering rod location and OEM throttle cable compatibility for most two stroke applications. Take a closer look at these new features and more as Chase gives a product spotlight on the all-new Lectron Billetron 38mm Adjustable Carburetor.
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I held off getting a Lectron HV because I'm a bigger rider on a 250 and didn't want to loose any low-end, plus deal with a new throttle cable and fitment etc.. When the Billetron 38 was released and reviewed, I jumped and got my pre-order in. Let me tell you, there is no loss of low-end with the Billetron. My Husky TE250 gained some unexpected grunt off idle and in low revs, in fact it was enough that I was a little too hot coming off some roots, got flung off the trail and now I'm recovering from rib injuries🤔. I have not been able to get back on the bike yet for more testing(and getting used to the new feel), but the entire power curve is very smooth, the engine is quicker to rev everywhere and its still plenty nutty at the top. Its good stuff.
Next version on this carb better be named Megatron
Bought a H-Series for my 02 CR250 couple years ago..worked great right out of the box..the plug was a little lean for my liking so I richened it up a tad with 1/2 a turn on the metering rod…good product,great customer service(although it’s email not phone) they do respond quickly
I ordered a Billetron as a last chance before going and buying a TPI 300, I have never in all the years of riding KTM & Husqvarna 300’s felt I could ever get them jetted correct for all situations. Put on my 17’ Husqvarna TX300, less than 30 minutes to install, amazing!!!! Smooth from zero to wide open, and way more low end. I am not one for expensive gimmicks although I have no desire to go buy TPI bike now, actually runs stronger than my buddies new 20’ & 21 300’s
Got 2019 ktm 150sx and I installed the new billitron, it was perfect out the box only thing had to do was adjust the throttle cable. This is my first 2 stroke and first carb bike I have always rode 4 stroke with ego. This thing out of the box was awesome and made the power pull evenly trough out and made it feel like fuel injected, very smooth. I absolutely love it.
That's awesome! Pretty amazing the way these things work. And I'm a little jealous of your 150SX! - Chase
2019 KTM 300 XC I purchased it a billet Tron bolted it on taking my time in about 15 minutes with zero modification to it and the bike runs flawlessly it definitely has more torque throughout the rev range and better rev out.
I ordered one from Lectron for a '04 450 exc. They called yesterday and I immediately went to the negative in my mind, "oh great there's some major issue",... she was like I have your order info here and in your name it says, "I'm looking for a mini" ????
Turns out my phone populated some erroneous info from another page. Something so small and they called me. Excellent start with this company. I am very excited.
That is awesome to hear!
Have a H series on my 2017 KTM SX 150 for 5 years now. Told RM what bike I had, they shipped it out, I put it on and never touched it for all 5 of those years. I race mainly MX and some GPs from sea level to over 4000 but also have a few single track trail rides over 8000 ft. It started(usually first kick), idled and ran perfect every time, every place, at every altitude. I've now put it on my new 22 KTM SX 150 and so far runs exactly the same as it did the last 5 years on my 17 SX 150. I've thought about the new Billetron but don't know yet. The 22 SX 150 runs great with it and I still have never made one adjustment to it since I took it out of the box 5 years ago. Just another point to make, every person that has ridden it is amazed at the low end and smooth hard pull all the way to max revs. If nothing else I would buy a Billetron just to get the float bowl drain and the choke lever on the left side. I admit the right side choke lever is a pain to get to on a SX 150.
I also just bought the 2022 SX 150 because of the way it starts and runs so cleanly with the Lectron H. I don't need the extra 10 lbs that KTM has but on the 2023 SX 125 for fuel injection and electric start. Plus the fact there isn't going to be a new SX 150 cycle or big bore kit for the SX 125 for probably 1-2 years into the future.
Planning to get one for my 2003 RM125, I live at Elevation and hear nothing but good from this Carb!
Go for the Smart Carb. I've tested both on the same bike and Smart Carb was superior. Way easier to tune, you don't have to take the slide out.
Installed one on my yz125 and it made a huge difference! worth every penny!!
I have a yz125x, and it uses a lot of fuel, did that carburetor helped you with fuel economy, have you noticed any difference?
@@matiasmaldonado510I heard some people say they got better mileage with the lectron carb
I ordered one yesterday from RM. It's for my 2013 KTM 300 XC. I can't wait till it gets here. No more messing with jets!
Edit: after installing this on the bike, it started on the 3rd kick! The idle was a little high but was easily adjusted. That was the only adjustment required. The bike runs amazing now through the whole rev range. Really happy with it ...pretty much plug and play.
Worth every penny!!!!!!
Could you do a comparison on a bike with the billetron and a SC2 smart carb. This I am sure all 2 stroke lovers would love to see.
I was hoping for one as well.
I’d love to see that as well!
In terms of ease of adjustment and less jetting headaches, you simply can’t beat the Lectron. Especially all of the design changes they made to improve this new BILLETRON!
I’ve outfitted four of them on the bikes for my Throwback Two Stroke Garage Build Shootout, a 2004 CR250R, 2007 KX250, 2006 RM250, and 2005 YZ250. I’ll drop some more riding feedback once my shootout video drops here shortly!
For ease of adjustment and no headaches the smart carb is even easier! External adjustment with no tools required. It is longer than the billetron though as they did manage to decrease carb body length with this new carb.
@@robertmuir734 I agree, the smartcarb sc2 is literally a toolless system
Smart carb beats lectron any day of the week in terms of adjustment.
However, Lectron is light years ahead of an ancient stock carb.
Would like to see a lectron vs smart carb sc2.
Great explanation
I put a lectron on my Beta 300rr.best mod ive ever done.more power,rideability.i live at 7500ft and travel from sea level to 12000 ft.no issues.better fuel range,never dribbles.
Billetron is my new favorite Transformer.
Never had a whole lot of luck with them in the past on dirt bikes they're great on drag bikes that run wide open but since they don't have an idle circuit I always had a hard time with a fluctuating aisle idol that drove me crazy and no one electron could get it right so I'll just stick with a good pwk
Go with the SC2 smartcarb 💯
Thinking of getting one for 2002 Yamaha YZ125
I’ve had several of the old style for KX500s, CR500s, KTM300s, and CR250s. My only feedback is that it would be nice to have them include and exploded diagram of their carbs with part numbers, sort of like the OEM drawings that the MX manufactures use when you are ordering OEM parts.
The only problem I have ever had was an issue with the float valve not sealing on one causing a rich condition. You could see that the float bowl was too full. Their WD-40 trick did not work for me that day. So, I just had to go to my spare bike. They offer very little in terms of exploded views. I know they offer a chat service but when your are way off the grid riding, the chat will not help you.
Don’t get me wrong, I do like the Lectrons, I’m just offering suggestions. It would be nice if the top of the carb had a cap that accepted an O ring instead of the loose gasket. They could even use C clips on the screws to they won’t accidentally fall out, though I know that “K,” and “M,” don’t offer that either.
Good product.
Put a Lectron on my Cr 250 and I think it's worth every penny! Definitely want one on my Cr 500!
If you're on the fence about getting one, I say pull the trigger, you won't be disappointed!!
I bought one for my CR500 I will sale it to you. 44mm it’s the H Series
What’s the little white piece in my float bowl called. Thing disappeared when I took the carb apart so I need to get another but I got no clue what it’s called
Throttle bodies make great door stops.
I have a Ktm 2008 505 I have a hell of a time at cold start wondering if it would help cold start ?
Who wants to take the slide out to make tuning adjustments, get the smart carb!!
Do they make these for four strokes?
Would it be good for an XR650L 1993?
would i be able to run this on a 84 cr500?
Been running a Lectron for about a year now. I had to turn my metering rod 3 and a half times total before it ran good. It definitely made my bike harder to start. Rarely starts first kick. The throttle response isn’t as snappy as I’d like, but it’s ok. A slimmer one would be nice, mine is a tight tight fit on my 99 yz250.
Not a good carb for the YZ250 and 250x IMO. Took mine off and sold it.
@@panic-revv85 I kinda feel the same. I bought my bike clapped out and rebuilt it so I don’t know how it was with the keihin, but my bike won’t wheelie in any gear but first. Maybe I’ll pull out the old carb and rebuild it 🤔
@@rickg9217 seems like the technical riders seem to like them. Definitely not the same power as the pwk though. Did lectron set the carb up for you when you bought it?
@@panic-revv85 No I tuned it in myself. I was wondering if I didn’t do it right but I watched a lot of videos and seems like I did what I was supposed to.
I'd like to know about getting 2 of these for a custom banshee. 521cc stroker. Have 2 39mm pwks currently. Specs on the o.d. of both ends would be cool. R these 4 stroke only carbs?
These are made primarily for 2 strokes but Lectron has used them for all sorts of applications. If you have a custom setup it may be best to contact Lectron directly and they can send carbs already tuned for your Banshee. You can contact Lectron here: www.lectronfuelsystems.com/contact
We have a dual Lectron setup for the Banshee that comes with 2 34mm Adjustable Power Jet Carburetors that you can check out here: www.rockymountainatvmc.com/parts/lectron-adjustable-power-jet-carburetor-kit-p
We also did a Banshee build with this dual Lectron setup on a 4mm stroker. You can check out that video here: ua-cam.com/video/GxU23uACfDU/v-deo.html
@@rmatvmc not tryin to hijack a conversation but i have a RZ as well as a NSR250 Honda.... the rz? im ok with it right now it runs an has been refreshened to rideable daily status .... the Honda however sat in fun hatin Cali too long without running and carbs have pitted float needle seats and are trash.... being i live in Arkansas i have found exactly ZERO people (local honda dealer staff included) whom know what a NSR is..... yessssss its THAT backwards here.... im game for using blaster or yz125 carbs or whatever someone would care to suggest .... sorry long winded jus tryin to answer what questions i can as i explain... itsa mc18 NSR amy help would be much appreciated
This looks great for 2 stroke engines
Fule consumption wise lot better?
Lectron does say that their carburetors help with fuel consumption.
Is there a Kawasaki KDX220 compatible version?
Yes
The Billetron is a short body (air cleaner boot to reed boot) and is too short for some bikes. If that is your case you have to buy ad adapter, which Lectron sells for about $35. So it doesn't just easily mount to every bike.
I just wish it supported the throttle position sensor on my yz250. I don't want to give up my 3D ignition mapping.
3-D ignition mapping !? Really !?
Go with the SmartCarb instead, it has a TPS option for your 3D mapping. Plug and play.
I am so angry I wasted $550 on a lectron 3 days before the Billetron was announced.
Has anyone put it on a older kx 250 with sensors? What do you do with the 2 sensors that are wired to the stock carb???
I have a 2000 kx250 and been asking but never get any replies back.
Go with the SmartCarb SC2 instead, it has a TPS option for you to keep your 3D mapping, plus it's externally adjustable without tools and they're not 4mm smaller than implied. Billetron 38s are actually 34mm carbs. The other connector is for an electronic power jet and you can just leave that one disconnected. Tape it up and zip-tie it up under the tank/frame.
Just disconnect the sensors an cover the wire ends an zip tie them. You don’t need the sensor to connect to the lectron
I've was interested in one for my 450...till I saw the price. Four stroke model much more expensive
900
Why don't you just make a pressure carb, does away with the float bowl, creates more room and doesn't matter what direction its angled from
But how they will run without tps on yz 250?
They will still run great. Lectron says that adding or removing the TPS system is much more noticeable on the OEM carb compared to a Lectron due to the Lectron bore design creating more velocity. So, I wouldn't be worried about it but if you are, Lectron makes the new Billetron Pro series with TPS that you can check out also.
www.rockymountainatvmc.com/parts/lectron-billetron-pro-adjustable-carburetor-with-tps-p
could they be put onto 4 stroke bikes? or 2 strokes only?
They can be put on 4 strokes, I have one on my yfz450
@@thatcoalminer275 do you have a problem with your throttle sticking?
@@mwitherspoon100 I swapped mine to twist throttle and it does amazing
And for folks who ride at one elevation, we will keep our PWK's.
There was a lot of hype with the hv series too. Never ran well around idle. Wasn't that consistent either. Lectron would blame my bike yet it would idle and start great with the keihin. Now they admit there was an issue. No thanks I'll spend my money elsewhere.
You're right about the inconsistent idle. My 150sx will want to load up and die when going down hill or under hard braking. I'm going to try to figure out but it's odd, seeing the way fuel enters... you wouldn't think this would happen BUT it does 🤔😒.
Anyone figure this out yet?
@Yo Joe I did set it (verified) to their recommended setting.
If it still acts up at idle when riding season returns in spring, I'm going to lean out a quarter turn.
Just seems odd that tilting carb causes it to run poor (idle low and wants to die). Fuel must be running over through metering rod. Leaning out may plug the hole 🤣...😒😡
Ya there going to sell a lot of these
Tried one, hard starting and just like the SC, you will loose low end power!
I hate that I got my lectron right before they dropped these.
Putvit on ebay, ima do the same
@@bikerdude6119 I'm pretty satisfied with it so far. I'll probably order one of these for my 500 project in the near future. Compare from there.
Shoulda threw a keihin on or at the very least a smart carb…same thing except an extra 50 years of development effort put in
And for that extra few decades of development you get external adjustability without tools, integrated float bowl venting eliminating the power jet, a variable throttle rate venturi that doesn't compromise (Billetron 38s, just like the previous 38 H-Series, are 34mm carburetors measured), and a TPS option should you need it.
I need one for my Gen 2 KLR 650.
I bought an old Edelbrock carb for my atv that had pretty much the same design. Kinda hated it, and put my stock carb back on. Very hesitant to spend the money on this one. Especially at that price
What happen to your shoulder????
I had my rotator cuff fixed. - Chase
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Chase what happened to your arm?
Had surgery to repair a torn rotator cuff. I'm on the mend though! - Chase
These carbs are for people that don't know what good carburetion is.
The self adjusting claim is a bit of false advertising. I can’t believe they get away with saying that over and over.
Fifth!
Dam yea I bought the first generation lectron. This one is up dated all the way around. I sacrificed quite a bit of low end on my yz125
$600?!!!🤯 I'll gladly sell my soul to Keihin with a number like that. Ridiculous.
Get a better job
And what's the price of a new Keihin .A lectron may not be the best investment for a new bike ,but for sure a consideration for a worn out Keihin on a high hour older machine.
@@jamesdenton3692 100% .... this year I’ll
Be racing a 2000 cr125 in an open class and I’m definitely considering the billetron , at the end of the day it’s the rider not the bike
Just watched a video where they said they spent all morning adjusting the billetrons (screwing in&out metering rod + messing with the power jet screw)👀 ...or I can jet my pwk in under 10mins.🤷♂️ No brainer there!
$1.118 including shipping and customs to EU, wtf
What happened to you?
There too expensive