Eachine E160 Flybarless Brushless Helicopter
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- Опубліковано 17 лип 2024
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Use code BGE160RTF to get 15% OFF RTF Version
Use code BGBNF160 to get 15% OFF BNF version
Hey, used the link and the code was invalid :/
You need to use it with the link in description.. Happy flying!
@@Painless360 I did. It said invalid code. Tried it twice. And once BGE160RTR (instead of BGE160RTF)
@@Painless360 I want the BNF version. Also doesn't work could you provide a link for the BNF version that works?
expired sad no more?
I want to say thank you for the videos you make. I built my first f450 with a APM 2.6 from your videos. Very informative and a pleasure to watch. I've built many quads now, and planes. Its been a hobby that has helped me cope with some things I've had to endure and I just want to say thanks for getting me involved and keep it up.
wow, great video and awesome heli. I also started in helis waaaay back (no stabilization, even not in 2.4GHz) and it is amazing how things have evolved.
That looked very cool Lee. I'd started researching Heli's years ago when I discovered multi's were a possibility so never went down that particular rabbit hole. That stabilised mode doesn't seem as scary as most helis appear to be!
This might just bring me back to Helis. I got started with the coaxials,moved to a Blade 120 and got very frustrated.Luckily had fun with fixed wing and then quads got so much better by leaps an bounds.Like you,i"ve always had a soft spot for a single rotor.
Yupieee! Heli vids will be coming. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
My first heli was a Kyosho Concept 30 - glowplug engine with flybar and no modern gyro. I got quite adept at flying (inverted and flips, etc.) and managed to only have minor damage crashes. Then life - sorry, wife - got in the way and only started back into RC last year with quads... (single again). Now I quite fancy a plane, or maybe even one of these little helis... can't make me mind up :)
I really do enjoy your time and videos.
Old Heli pilot here as well, looking forward to some fresh videos and I might dust off one of mine in garage.
As always, thanks for awesome videos Lee! 👍
Pretty nice little helicopter, Lee! 😃
Great flying and review!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
this was i like on P360 review very detailed and well explained im flying multirotor for years now and i love to try heli for the first time this was the best option to choose from thanks mate.
We just built a conservatory for someone and the guy is into helis in a big way.its amazing to hear and see old coptors.he has an old thing i forget the name begins with n.an electric thing wow they are crazy to see.didnt fly it but to see it.he had some army looking ones allso.amazing.
I would love to see more videos on helicopter set up and open tx. How easy it is to use open tx for a heli would be interesting as it compares to lets say a spektrum radio. Thanks for the great content!
yep old trex 450 se first helli now quads same miss the heart rate :) thank you Lee
Just looking at the construction of it, and all the finely detailed parts & pieces, I can only guess that something like this, back in the 90's, would have cost over $1000. I never got into helis myself. I saw so much frustration from early adopters in that hobby, which was deterrent enough. Nice review. Cheers.
Looks to be a winner and can't wait to see you fly it with an OpenTX radio!
Check the description.. ;)
XK K110 is another great micro heli, half the weight and power makes it almost indestructible, still heaps of fun with decent stability, gives me the confidence to do crazy tricks and flips low to the ground without consequence.
it also costs less than the 160
I started with a blade CP years ago. I learned to fly helis before learning to fly planes actually. And while that's an insane thought for most I had no idea how hard helis were. And reflect how silly it was of me to be so afraid to fly planes for the first time. The stability mode would be great for new pilots coming from mulitrotor land.
The availability of parts is vital and I would highly recommend that Eachine make parts local to the global market helis are not multirotors and they have a high part count. When crashed they tend to flop around a bit and eat themselves. And quick part ordering would be really nice.
The blade mcpx series is a seriously good little copter and quite durable too.
I'm still flying Trex 450 SEv2's :) They're great fliers. This looks very interesting though!
I dont remember the name but i had one with a water tank on the bottom.squirted water out.was ace.love hellis.great video lee.stay safe my friend
i started with a old trex 450...and so man years later they have flybarless helis in this size ? omg... :D
Great video as usual. I began flying helis too before moving to quads and fixed wing. I do still fly my TRex 450, although I fly the 450 FPV which definitely gets the adrenaline going and is a real challenge compared to quads. Can't beat the sound of a heli! The Eachine heli looks very stable. Would be great to see you having a go at putting a micro camera on it and flying it FPV.
Idk about flying a 450 in fpv as its very dangerous but helps with orientations and keeping it were you want it to be makes it harder to crash
It's good to see a copter once again.
I just recently purchased the eachine tx16s and I was surprised to see it had preset planes and copters including the eachine e160. I had to learn the switches and the roll control had to be reversed. The arm voice had to be reversed as well. It flew so much better, more docile for us newbs.
Amazing heli
HoneyBee King II was my first heli! So many moons ago...
Lee, Sounds like you gave up helis around the time I started flying them. I'm not into multirotors, but I do love my helis, and you would be surprised at how much things have moved on when it comes to flybarless controllers. The E160 looks like a great intro to helis though, so I appreciate you making the video and bringing helicopters to your viewers.
You're correct, the Futaba protocol is AETR. For a quick and easy set-up I recommend doing a UA-cam search for John Salt's XK K110 set-up for OpenTX. Most everything should be very similar to what you're looking for. And John has some easy ways to set pitch on micro's that are too small for a pitch guage. Have fun.
Lee, i am new to you're channel and enjoy your videos very much, i was surprised when you said you use to fly helicopters, i flew helicopters also before getting into drones , planes RC world! Sold my Align T-Rex because i was always getting harassed when i flew it in the parks by local authorities! Got tired of being told that it was to big to fly there and that it could hurt someone if i lost control of it, funny thing is i always flew it when no one was around! Just got tired of the game with the locals. You're video brought back memories of my helicopter days! Now i am looking at the ZOHD RC stuff! Thanks for the great video's! ☠Semper Fi 🇺🇸🐾🐾🐾💀
Great video Lee - I'm really interested in the follow up video re: programming in OpenTx which I've never done before with Helis
+1 to this request, we need open tx guide to set up the e160
Hope you do more heli videos! Would love to see your old 450 or 500 back in the air
One more about how I setup a radio to run this model... Not a lot on flybarless setups in things like OpenTX about...
Very nice.
Lee I don't know that I ever heard you so taken by a model. You seemed almost speechless a couple times! :) Fun video...exciting...three cheers...looks like lots of fun. :)
I was a helicopter mechanic in the Army and love helicopters. My first was a Honey Bee King II. I wouldn't say I learned to fly it, but I did crash it a few times. I'm hesitant to order anything from BG these days since I've been waiting three months for my last order to arrive.
I learned to fly on a Blade CP and CP Pro when I was a teenager, and to say the experience was a nightmare is an understatement.
I'm learning on a xk k100 bough the k110 but arrived broken so waiting on new one have managed to fly upside down for 10 seconds
Great little heli. Sounds like you need to dust off the old Trex 450 & 500 and put in a FBL head and controller. It would make another great series of videos for your channel. There seems to be a lot of interest in the comments below as to the programming of FBL units in OpenTx.
Nice....well done....hehehehehe ...know what you mean about heart thumping experience......still happens to me after 30 years......learned on Hirobo Falcon and old MFA fixed pitch.
PLEASE show how to setup with your TX16S.
🙏🏼 Lovely review. Thank you. Cheers
Check out the description.....
Hi, Martyn here again! 🤩 I’m trying to get my head around the myriad of micro connectors these days 🙄.
I think the E160 is a good example of micro JST connectors - of which there are many! Extremely common since the advent of 250g rules etc.
They include ZH, SM, XH, PH, EL, SYP just to mention a few 😫 Then we have mm of “pitch”, which I believe is distance between pins, another one is 1.0, 1.25, 1.5, 2.54mm, SOMETIMES refers to the diameter of wire, not to mention overall plug dimensions!
All I need right now is a bunch of wired 3 pin plugs (which are on models everywhere, including the E160’s SBUS & servos). Nearest measurements I can make out: 5 x 2 x 4mm deep. Adjacent to those is a slightly larger socket for DSM, a few plugs that size would also be handy, but not essential right now.
PLEASE do you know exactly what to order? A simple bag of servo plugs which I use in all sorts of applications including micro ‘lost model alarms’ 😭 how hard can it be?!
Sorry for rambling and thank you again for your great knowledge! 👍🏻
I tend to keep all of my spare wires from builds in a little tin for times like this. I agree, it is confusing especially when vendors are not explicit with what connectors are used. I'd send a message to the vendor or reseller with the question. Best of luck
@@Painless360 Thanks, will do! 👍🏻 Like yourself, I have drawers full of spare cables and bits but just not this particular one. Ironic, as they seem to be on every small model these days 🚁
Hi, After watching this again, a 6 year old video of yours popped up! ua-cam.com/video/4stL9_LQGzI/v-deo.html
So while messing around with various connectors, it dawned on me, let’s see if your link still works: the Discovery Buzzer from HobbyKing:
hobbyking.com/en_us
As we know, 6 years in this hobby is a long time, so that buzzer is long gone. However, is there something similar & simple available for the E160 and similar micro helis of today? What d’you reckon? Cheers, Martyn 🚁👍🏻
Lots of modern options now. All of my videos are carefully organised into playlists and every video has a number of text tags on them to make them easy to find if you use a search. This video should help and explains a few tips for finding the video or playlist you're looking for - ua-cam.com/video/CIuUNdVfBJQ/v-deo.html or ua-cam.com/video/P4soR6QgOk0/v-deo.html. Happy flying!
@@Painless360 Thanks Lee - great links 👍🏻 However, I still can’t find anything about new lost model locators. I think your most recent video was 4 years ago. I go to your channel by default because I love your explanations & suggestions and in this case, you’re familiar with the FC board on the E160.
There’s a DSM socket and an SBUS PPM socket available as well as the servos. Molex Picoblade and JST SH connectors look the same to me! 🤔 I’m not familiar with drones. Can you recommend a model finder for this heli? 🚁 Much appreciated! 😁
Watched your vid a few more times and I pulled the trigger. The BG code didn't work, so I got the 4 battery, no transmitter, for $239 CAD from AliExpress. .... So, now I'll NEED your future tx16s setup video 😂 no rush, you know the AE shipping times 😂
Thanks again! CHEERS!
Check the description... ;)
I used to fly a lot of Walkera MiniCP and similar. Cool little copters. Only problem was that as one crashed them and needed to replace parts, I could never get them to fly as well again. BUT, they were fairly inexpensive. Would have imagined that with time, the prices would have come down. Apparently not. Would love something like this but for the price, I'll try to fix the CPs.
Great video , I would say that when you are a beginner , you have always crashes, and a more plastic/tolerant small Heli would be better, I started again heli flight with the e119 which is very limited but very cheap and easy, then bought a XK K110 which is a fantastic model very tolerant to crash and easy to flight in 6G ... you can make a lot of mistakes without too much damages... I am waiting now my e160 next week apparently. I will see what this one bring to me.
I bought also the omphobby M2 , but too impressive for now for me to flight...
The downside of these small and cheap helicopters is that when you are used to them... you ask yourself... why flying a big and very dangerous one in place of it :)
I started Heli 30 years ago, it costed me 1.5 month salary (heli + radio)... crashed after 3 very short flight and I stopped... too expensive ! Incredible what you can fly today with only 50/150 €
Regards
I just watched a couple old vids and had to post another comment, to all quad flyers who've never seen what can be done with an RC heli, I urge you to look for 'Tareq Alsaadi Goblin Kraken 3D at the Swiss Heli Challenge 2019'... You seriously won't believe your eyes, or ears for that matter, listening to those huge heavy blades just chewing at the air mercilessly, throwing that great big heli around the sky, it's seriously mind-blowing if you've never seen it... Or Tareq Alsaadi Goblin 770, bearing in mind that vid is 6 years old; utterly boggling..!
❤️❤️❤️ this vid 👏👏👏
The change (or not) is good
it's e-sky honeybee. and i still have mine . man, i feel old now. :)
i've also been thinking about getting this thing. never had a cp heli before.
Yes ESKY Honey Bee, not Walkera. Both Esky and walkera single rotor helicopters are bad for novice and awful for pro's))
When I moved to CP from learning with FP I felt like I'd just traded in the family station wagon for a racing car! :D Brilliant!
actually, the honeybee/v2 is a great platform before going into cp. because of the 90deg flybar. it teaches you a lot more than most 4ch helis. i still fly mine "indoors" once in a while, for the rush.
BTW, I never had a rc helicopter, but I already fixed one from a friend... I replaced a stripped gear for a gear I took out of a dead printer. It worked. 😬
I had and managed to destroy three 3g helis. I went to quads and love the ease of flying with them. I now own 5 6g copters including this one. They still break when you crash, but in 6g mode are far easier to fly. It would be real cool if they would allow 6g inverted flight.
have you any idea if the radiolink at1011 can work with this helicopter using s-bus the manual says it uses fhss like futaba ?
As other comments, appears Banggood are not making this available to UK?
Looks like you need to do a video on adding stabilisers to our old helis! My Blade & MS Hornet have been gathering dust for years........
I've got a K-Bar here but would need the flybarless conversion for the Aligns.. Maybe one day!
HI, thanks for this video. I had a problem with my e160; can you cofirm
me that is there just one a conic washer between roto head set and main
blade clip? Thank you in advance!
Flew fp helicopter but then discovered 3d quads and silverware and learned 3d that way, I keep toying with the idea of getting a real 3d heli.
Im planning to get this or the nano s2 and im still beginner i flew dji drone v911 which one i choose?
I started off with a Walkera MiniCP and a Blade NanoCP and MCPX, then moved up to a Walkera V120D 02s and Blade BL120, before I made the switch to quads; but I still take out the NanoCP now and then, and I've been tinkering with putting an FPV camera in the V120 to see if I can get an image without too much jello... I've always been interested in the FPV heli concept because with the right configuration you can get extreme flight times and extraordinary maneuverability; if you watch some of the hardcore heli guys, it's amazing what they can do; check out Tareq Alsaadi, he does stuff with great big ol' Goblin 700 helis that truly defies belief, I'm not kidding, it's freakin' insane what he can make those big helis do... There was a youtuber named Pico Flyer who did some cool stuff a loooong time ago with an FPV setup in a Walkera MiniCP, which is truly a micro-sized heli, and I was amazed at the image quality and flight footage he got, back when the guys at Flite Test were still building quads out of plywood and superglue, and they were all HUGE..! Again, check out the old vids, it's crazy how far the hobby has come..! Good vid as always mate, I might have to look into this new Eachine, I just love watching those swash plates move! Such a mechanical ballet, and just cool as hell the way it translates to the flight aspects of the heli...
hi i got mine today from banggood i noticed when i use the throttlle fast or like 50 to %80 to make him fast go up or sometimes when just hover the tail want to turn itselt sorry for my explanation is that normal i forgot what my k120 behavior before
I'd love a PNF version
Ok, I bought one too, I'll see if it make sense to make a little wizzard for it. Are you going to republish your setup video with OTX (had some observation about Futaba centering and multimodule ;)) ?
Looks like a better (brushless tail) version of the xk 130 I fly now.
Where am I going wrong mate? I've just started doing helis on a sim and the only heli I can. Manage to hover somewhat well is the Blade mcp x any other heli and I just can't do it any help appreciated.
will it be easy to set this up using a jumper tx
Lee, If you are at all keen on getting back into helis, I suggest you check out the OMP HOBBY M2 Expore and M2 v2 available from SotiaRC.co.uk and Banggood. It's a little larger, has a direct drive brushless main motor spinnig the main blades, and a brushless tail motor. It also has a stabilization system, and LOTS of power. I'm told, flys very well, I have one on order, but not got it yet.
i have been lookingbat all this open tx it it seems very complicated.
Holy molly that's expensive for a small helicopter! i had a figure in my head of around £75--£90 from Bangood then clicked on the the link and wow yeah its expensive.
Actually, for what you are getting, the E160 is very cheap. This heli cannot be compared to those cheap rubbish toys you see in shopping centres, this is a propper little 3D capable micro helicopter, and had it been sold under Horizon Hobbies "Blade" line of products, it would have been twice the price of this.
I have just bought the E160. But have had a bit of bad luck the one I have received from Banggood has a fault with the ESC or FC as the Low voltage cut out works, but at the wrong time. I still have around 75% battery left. Was hoping you might be able to help as it might be adjustable, but I have not been able to find an in-depth instruction manual. By the way, love what you do, fantastic channel
No idea, I only have the same manual you do.. Best of luck!
would be great to see you set this up on a tx16s
You've not checked the video description have you? ;)
Can it bind DSMX or DSM2 TX ? If there are no so please inform the company about it
Hi there another great video one question is that a Bluetooth at the front. I also still have a couple of blade helicopter
I suspect that is the 2.4Ghz antenna..
Looks very similar to the Align T-rex 150X. A tad bigger maybe. :)
Hi Lee,
can i Bind the Receiver with my Radiomaster TX16S?
Mayby the 4in1 Module support the Protocol...
Super other Stuff... good to see
Yes you can - video coming soon!
Would this be a good candidate for something like a mini Revo with the arducopter build? I've been looking for a challenge something small. Just for fun...
Maybe but there is very little room on this thing..
Mine shipped w/o a transmitter. Any recommendations? Will a spektrum work with it or do I have to use eachine?
This is what I did.. ua-cam.com/video/mRHt_LOeFt0/v-deo.html
After one flight went to use again and no light on copter. Just makes the little tune when plugging in and nothing. Can you tell me which component I need to most likely have to order and replace? Esc? , mother board? Thanks
I've not seen that failure here so all I can suggest is start with a thorough visual inspection of the model to see if you can spot anything loose or damaged... Best of luck
Can I use the radio XK X6 compatible with Futaba protocol with Eachine E160?
No idea, best of luck!
Is it possible to wire an fpv camera to this heli? Also will a radiomaster tx16s work with this?
Yes and ua-cam.com/video/mRHt_LOeFt0/v-deo.html
Hi, quick question. How do i get this heli to work with a flysky TH9X radio. Thanks
I've not got one of them to try here. Best of luck
look at the rotor. quite buff actually but I'm worried about the linkages. seem pretty fragile.
The linkages are a lot cheaper than replacing servos.
Your story could be mine...totally recognize it. Started with a walkera hm36b because I was young and didn't had the money for a decent helicopter. The walkera was absolutely rubbish, specially the tail gyro. In fact the gyro on mine wasn't working at all....so I always had full left rudder to keep the tail from drifting....thought it was normal. Till somebody told me it wasn't. Bought a hobbyking hk401b gyro and the helicopter finally flew ok. Then switched to the t-rex 450se, and men.....heart pumping every flight. Then I noticed the rcexplorer diy tricopter, bought some wood and a first version kk fc, and wow....that flew sooooo easy. Switched to tricopter, to quads, to mini quads, to planes.....
And now I'm back at my old flybarred t rex 450. This eachine looks great too!!
There are a lot of us 'lapsed' heli pilots out there.. I was just genuinely surprised at how nice this was and how well it flew..
@@Painless360 "rc" technique made some incredible jumps over the last 10 years Indeed....I remember the first time that the kk board came into production, as an alternative to a totally diy solution with the 3 imus out of the Nintendo wii remotes. I think it was about the first serious open-source fc project and I was absolutely amazed by the tech. Flashing with the lazy zero kk flash tool. Maybe you also remember it! When you look at it now...it's the most simple piece of hardware and code you've seen. A big hooray for al the (open-source) thinkers out there that made this kind of progression possible!
All RC helicopters, from 160 to 800, should become pure direct drive in the next few years. The flybarless FBL revolution is complete. The pure direct drive PDD revolution is next. And all helicopters will come FPV in the next few years.
What does the top left switch do? It reads: FMOD/FLAP and G.S/GEAR. But that doesn't make any sense to me.
The Multiprorocol module now has a script that names the channels so you can see what they would be traditionally used for. Check the playlist for the future video that covers it.... Happy flying
Can you PLEASE show the proper stock radio settings(including toggle switches, their function and setting) for a beginner to fly successfully. No fancy trim settings and such, just for basic scale flight. Thanks so very much. ps the manual is rubbish!
I don't still have this but I did make a video where I transferred all of the radio settings to a TX16s/OpenTX radio that may help.. Best of luck!
Would love to see this setnup on a tx16s, please please please please put an fpv aio on it.
Video coming soon :D
Hi if my set radio tranmission mode 6 g gyro 60 .Are gyro work slowly?
6 axis mode is to calm and stabilise the model for easier flying and hovering... Happy flying
@@Painless360 Thank you
Would these work with a lithium ion 18650 pack?
Maybe, weight may be an issue..
ah!!! Helis!! the singe-use-copters. Horrible times ...
se no se boni de voar, ste casa
It looks like it would disintegrate with a crash that a quad brushed off with little to no damage. Is that correct assumption?
Helis are more fragile.
No. I have the xkk130 and xkk120 and xk110. They are very durable. Mostly you'll break the tail boom or bend a feathering shaft.
Trying to order, in stock at Banggood but says "No shipping method is available for this product to your location." for UK. Brexit problem? :-(
Having flown helis for years this offer from eachine is probably the most expensive Ive seen for this price (AU$300.00). Better to get yourself a Trex 450 flybarless basic kit.
bear in mind that the trex 450 won't have any type of flight stabilization for beginners, and that's a big deal.
@@Graham_Shaw You can buy a heli flight controller for 30 bucks. NO EXCUSE.
@@OzFPVflyer Yes, you can, but it won't have stabilization, or rescue at that price. And it will be a clone, so basically stolen IP. The E160 is only a little bit more expensive than what could be considered it's predecessor, the XK K130, and it has a brushed, coreless tail motor that wore out fast. Also, I think you are not considering that a 450 would be much more intimidating for beginners due to the bigger size. Lastly, why do you think I'm trying to make excuses for the E160's price? I just think it makes a great beginner heli, what's wrong with that? Each to their own I suppose.
Do RC helis still exist? I just thought these were what ppl tried to fly before flight controllers allowed everyone to fly 'drones'
Erm, yep. Lots of things besides quads are flown regularly by many pilots ;) happy flying!
Put a fpv system on a heli
the xk k110 is a better heli for less money
xk110 rocks
Wish they sold it without Radio
They do - see video ;)
Love to see heli’s back. Quads are too easy. And boring.
I think that the fact that they are 'easy' is exactly why, for a while there, that is *all* the hobby was excited about as many like DJI require no skill to 'fly'..
Hi. Just found this video... Great content. I fly heli's on an X9D+. If you want more info about setup, give me a shout. :-)
Forgiving helicopter? That’s an oxymoron.
I used to think so... Happy flying
In 6G mode it will be pretty forgiving. In 3D mode though, Eh.......No!