Gaming's Second Greatest Scam: GAMING FOAM.

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  • Опубліковано 15 бер 2021
  • BIG VIDEO NEXT WEEK!!
    Don't waste your money on the elgato wave panels. Here's a review of it, and a scientific breakdown on why it's NOT going to fix the audio in your microphone. Elgato Wave panels are way too expensive. In this video you'll find how to actually install cheap studio foam, where to buy it, and how to hang it.
    As much as I don't like twitter, I just now made one for your guys :) / liam__manley
    Are Elgato's NEW Sound Panels Worth $100? NO. Here's a review of the elgato wave panels.
    ALSO for the part in the video where I just gave up, you can just install just about any studio foam panels by just gluing them to carboard, then using command strips on the cardboard to attach them to your wall/ceiling. You can also hang them, or just put the command strips on the foam itself. There's a bunch of creative ways to non destructively set it up. Thanks for watching! #elgato #gamingfoam Worth $99?! Elgato Wave Panels Review
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    Good deal on 2 inch wedge: www.amazon.com/Acoustic-Panel...
    Good deal on 1 inch wedge (more panels for the price): www.amazon.com/Acoustic-Panel...
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  • @ManleyReviews
    @ManleyReviews  3 роки тому +776

    just note, this specific product is targeting UA-cam\streaming content creation (simple vocal work) which is why I take such issue with it.
    as opposed to how this product performs in a professional studio environment targeting full spectrum sound attenuation.

    • @imjohn8168
      @imjohn8168 3 роки тому +2

      30th

    • @paulmdevenney
      @paulmdevenney 2 роки тому +36

      even then - those foam panels you have will probably be outperformed by even cheaper rockwool panels or "corning fiberglas". Glen Fricker does a good video on creating bass traps. Either way "gamer foam" is peak gamer.

    • @ManleyReviews
      @ManleyReviews  2 роки тому +27

      @@paulmdevenney I got to meet glen like 5 years ago at NAMM he's such a cool dude.

    • @CReese-os8fc
      @CReese-os8fc 2 роки тому +4

      Can foam replace the pillows I've duct taped on the walls?

    • @joshuawargo6446
      @joshuawargo6446 2 роки тому

      SUPER thanks for the video. My family constantly makes comments about noise and im always like...um hey...foam....they make it....and this will MAYBE actually make that happen finally unless i just get out of here sooner xD

  • @BensWatchClub
    @BensWatchClub 2 роки тому +1933

    These foam pads are a complete rip off. For most UA-camrs sound blankets are more user-friendly and perform infinitely better for less money. Glad to see this overpriced junk finally being called out. Nice work 👍

    • @ThylineTheGay
      @ThylineTheGay 2 роки тому +36

      very cheapest solution, get a bunch of clothes from an op-shop and hang them around your room

    • @FlyboyHelosim
      @FlyboyHelosim 2 роки тому +29

      For most people, the furnishings already in their room will suffice to even bother with ANY extra steps.

    • @That_Puppet
      @That_Puppet 2 роки тому +12

      @@ThylineTheGay cheapest solution is used egg cartons, they do the job of these sound proofing foam pads much better, and honestly you can ask any local diner/restaurant to save their cartons for you

    • @ThylineTheGay
      @ThylineTheGay 2 роки тому +2

      @@That_Puppet I doubt it, aren’t egg cartons really thin

    • @That_Puppet
      @That_Puppet 2 роки тому +30

      @@ThylineTheGay yes but they have a large air gap behind them and the wall as well as creating a ton of geometry for sound to bounce around in and dissipate

  • @ZybakTV
    @ZybakTV 2 роки тому +1225

    My personal favorite is the Razer BattleLight.
    The description reads:
    The Razer BattleLight plugs into Razer’s Tarantula Keyboard’s BattleDock illuminating your Tarantula in a cool blue glow. Now you can take a full advantage of your Tarantula Keyboard’a gaming features in lowlight conditions giving you the unfair advantage over your adversaries.

    • @rex9003
      @rex9003 2 роки тому +229

      i refuse to believe that exists even after searching it up to see it exists

    • @lzr257
      @lzr257 2 роки тому +227

      "Illuminate your Razer Tarantula with the Razer BattleLight and give yourself the unfair advantage over your rivals in lowlight conditions."
      peak gaming performance right there

    • @dustyoverstreet648
      @dustyoverstreet648 2 роки тому +147

      Wow! I can't believe Razor finally figured out how to light a surface. The dark ages are over!

    • @ingo98
      @ingo98 2 роки тому +4

      hey but atleast its only 20 bucks

    • @white_mage
      @white_mage 2 роки тому +34

      sounds like razer doesn't know what a light bulb is

  • @Nirossen
    @Nirossen 2 роки тому +473

    Sound dood here, if you can't get a good deal on sound foam, try just hanging curtains/blankets along the walls. You don't technically even need foam, you just need to diffuse reflections. Artwork will suffice in some cases.

    • @lammyjammer6670
      @lammyjammer6670 2 роки тому +35

      I was about to mention this. People don't realize anything that disrupts the problem reflections will do the job.
      I have the 2 side walls lined with curtains, a cheap rug on the floor and a bit of foam (mostly for decorative purposes) behind my monitors (and some corner bass traps since my room isn't that big to tame some of the monitor low end) and it honestly does the trick.

    • @pian-0g445
      @pian-0g445 2 роки тому +20

      @@lammyjammer6670 even adding furnitures help

    • @pedrosilvamusician
      @pedrosilvamusician 2 роки тому +3

      True you don't need to focus much on properly treating a room either. But those cheap foams do nothing either tbh

    • @FAB1150
      @FAB1150 2 роки тому +5

      Yep, i don't have any foam in my room but it diffuses reflections really well as it's full of stuff that's hanging on the walls, a bed (which I guess it's foam), and a rug.

    • @casedistorted
      @casedistorted 2 роки тому

      Nice tip, thanks!

  • @Vladi_AK47
    @Vladi_AK47 2 роки тому +1185

    This channel is a hidden gem. I keep getting impressed with overall quality of video edit, script and personality. Fantastic job dude 👊

    • @ManleyReviews
      @ManleyReviews  2 роки тому +83

      My pleasure, and welcome aboard.

    • @mrman5066
      @mrman5066 2 роки тому +12

      What's even better, he reacts to like every comment. I made a comment earlier today on a 6 month old video and he still replied! Very committed. Much respecc

    • @Ben.N
      @Ben.N 2 роки тому +5

      same! can tell it's about to blow up.

    • @wilsonandco-2890
      @wilsonandco-2890 2 роки тому +1

      Yes

    • @Chrispyy__
      @Chrispyy__ 2 роки тому +1

      It really is. I just found his channel 4 days ago and been watching everyday since.

  • @IanTheGreatYT
    @IanTheGreatYT 2 роки тому +335

    The funny thing is, there are actually people out there that literally spent that much money on elgato foam 😐

    • @ManleyReviews
      @ManleyReviews  2 роки тому +67

      I mean if you've got the bank for it, go ahead! But for most of the struggling streamers out there I'd save your cash.

    • @coffinsnail6930
      @coffinsnail6930 2 роки тому +5

      @@ManleyReviews but how much was paid to cover the walls in the foam in this video? because elgato foam is designed better and requires less then is used in that room.

    • @ScrungleGaming
      @ScrungleGaming 2 роки тому +35

      @@coffinsnail6930 at 8:15 he said it's about 150 for the entire room, so you'd have to get the same level of quality using only 9 panels from elgato to come out at the same price, which is literally impossible to accomplish do to the way sound functions

    • @Wistbacka
      @Wistbacka 2 роки тому +5

      Linus tech tips even said they were a good deal. And I guess they were semi-true, but they were only comparing them to studio grade, pro foam. And question is if the elgato ones should be compared to the pro stuff or to more consumer stuff.

    • @chrispham6599
      @chrispham6599 Рік тому

      @@coffinsnail6930 I guarantee you it's less than what El Gato would ask you for

  • @BirdmanDeuce26
    @BirdmanDeuce26 2 роки тому +204

    The microphone distance + rug/carpet + gain control is SO important, yet so overlooked by so many people. It's one of the reasons why some "bedroom recordings", even in older pre-HD days of UA-cam, sounded so good despite being recorded with mediocre camera mics. All the soft cloth provided a natural "deadening" for sound reflections, and people got as close as they reasonably could to the camera because their sensor pattern was so small, further giving more clarity to the sound source.

    • @dodo19923
      @dodo19923 2 роки тому +9

      I vc with friends every day on discord/other apps and my setup is in the kitchen. Hard tile floors, a huge window next to me and the room is around 8m long, 3.5m wide and 2.5m high so a LOT of space to echo. Ended up buying a few carpets from ikea, threw them down on the floor to cover as much as i could and hung a wool blanket on a rail across the window so i can close it when i'm online. Going from sounding like i'm in a huge concert hall lol to just a tiny bit of echo (enough so my voice isn't dead flat) made a noticeable improvement the first time i spoke to someone, they thought i was in another room. Amazing what difference a bit of common sense makes to a setup.

  • @amaurythewarrior
    @amaurythewarrior 2 роки тому +388

    what you call "flat" are acoustic panels made of rockwool and covered in fabric. more expensive, even if you DIY, but relatively easy to do SO MUCH MORE efficient, look nicer you can even print custom design, movie posters etc. and you can hang the foam on the wall using long pins. a bit hard to push them in, but it works.

    • @ManleyReviews
      @ManleyReviews  2 роки тому +117

      Yup, high quality flat panels are my personal favorite for actual function. Calling it by it's shape is a bit misleading, but was just used as a quick metaphor.

    • @TriggerzConnors
      @TriggerzConnors 2 роки тому +1

      You can use egg rack for DIY sound proof.

    • @amaurythewarrior
      @amaurythewarrior 2 роки тому +32

      @@TriggerzConnors i'm sorry this is factually incorrect. if you read on the topic you'll see it doesn't do anything useful for soundproofing or acoustic treatment in general. there's virtually no thickness, and the patterns repeats itself.

    • @TriggerzConnors
      @TriggerzConnors 2 роки тому +1

      @@amaurythewarrior aight

    • @Hamachingo
      @Hamachingo 2 роки тому +5

      If all you need is cut down on the nasty reverb when talking to a twitch stream, foam wedges will do the job just fine unless you have a really low and loud voice. Recording/editing music is where the broadband absorbers, diffusers and bass traps come in and really make a difference.

  • @ScamboliReviews
    @ScamboliReviews 3 роки тому +28

    WHAT DID CAILLOU DO TO YOU

    • @industrial_airconditioner
      @industrial_airconditioner 3 роки тому +5

      He killed my father in hand to hand combat I will never forgive nor forget what he has done.....

    • @ManleyReviews
      @ManleyReviews  3 роки тому +7

      That’s between me and my therapist

    • @imjohn8168
      @imjohn8168 3 роки тому

      HI SCAM

  • @SirHojack
    @SirHojack 2 роки тому +43

    My old man is a musician, has 3 of the 4 walls covered in the foam, the other wall is bay windows which he has blankets hung up over them. From his advice, hanging a blanket or two up can work in a pinch.

    • @lammyjammer6670
      @lammyjammer6670 2 роки тому +2

      Acoustic blankets aren't too expensive. If you really want to go cheap you can even go for heavier moving blankets and they work just as well (the heavier the better they are at absorbing sound). You have buy a dozen for $40-$50 just about anywhere.

  • @Jinni_SD
    @Jinni_SD 2 роки тому +386

    I disagree with the concept of covering everything you can with foam. The result is a sound that is what can only be described as "too dead", or unnatural. It's a trap that it appears you, and many others fall into. You notice that in the pictures shown of the studios that they don't look like anechoic chambers. That's because natural reflections are desired to create a nice small room reverb, so it doesn't have to be added back in post. In an ideal scenario, acoustically treating a room should work to take out standing waves (specific frequencies that reflect disproportionately to the others) while allowing the others to move naturally.

    • @zagrebzebra
      @zagrebzebra 2 роки тому +94

      Being an ex audio technician by profession, I agree with this gentleman above.

    • @Justowner
      @Justowner 2 роки тому +11

      @@zagrebzebra How might I do that, or is there some specific terms I can google to get started?

    • @jaydensydes3478
      @jaydensydes3478 2 роки тому +86

      Dead rooms are common, and pretty good for VO and stuff, it's not a mixing room or a violin recording room.
      Is it possible the unnatural sound you're referring to is actually the low frequencies reverberating through the ineffective foam?

    • @adamwhite1934
      @adamwhite1934 2 роки тому +28

      I was about to say the same. Id also say, with most square rooms, bass is a nightmare, so some kind of bass trap is more useful than foam, which will mostly deal with high frequencies. In my experience anyway.

    • @CReese-os8fc
      @CReese-os8fc 2 роки тому +19

      I've always felt that if you can mess up the perfect square a bit is enough to get rid of the shillness, I tend to place soakers in certain hot spots on a specific wall and it seems to work rather well.
      Nothing is better than just having a good mic that's close to your mouth though tbf

  • @propheinx2250
    @propheinx2250 2 роки тому +24

    More content creators need to include a completion bar for their sponsored content ads. It feels so much less intrusive that way and I never realized how much I actually wanted it to be normal practice until now.

  • @danthewolf1997
    @danthewolf1997 2 роки тому +40

    I am wary about cheaping out on foam due to fire risk. While I won’t be doing any pyrotechnics in my room, the video from the station night club fire still haunts me.

    • @antlerman7644
      @antlerman7644 Рік тому +2

      Very much agreed.

    • @pedrosilvamusician
      @pedrosilvamusician 11 місяців тому

      Make some cheap rockwool panels. Much better, you don't need to use as much material (no need to cover a wall completely) and it's fire proof

  • @Juliett-A
    @Juliett-A 2 роки тому +104

    You don't need to cover the entire wall. Linus did a video and he showed that covering just a fraction of the space gets you massive results.

    • @ETERNlTUS
      @ETERNlTUS 2 роки тому +6

      Still, covering the whole wall with less budget is the better option.

    • @FlyboyHelosim
      @FlyboyHelosim 2 роки тому +14

      I'm sure not many people would want to, or get away with, covering entire walls to begin with. Who wants a room in their house covered in dingy grey foam? I'm sure a landlord would have something to say, too.

    • @richardmillhousenixon
      @richardmillhousenixon 2 роки тому

      @iglu What if you can only buy in bulk?

    • @richardmillhousenixon
      @richardmillhousenixon 2 роки тому +5

      @@FlyboyHelosim Command strips leave little to no residue

    • @richardmillhousenixon
      @richardmillhousenixon 2 роки тому

      @iglu I'm not saying you should buy the gamer foam I'm saying buy command strips to mount the foam of your choice. I legit have a king sized cheap foam mattress topper that I attached to the wall for sound dampening because it was on sale for like 15 bucks

  • @t6ku40
    @t6ku40 3 роки тому +41

    Came here from Scamboli, and I don't regret a thing. Keep up the amazing content, I can imagine your channel blowing up soon enough!

    • @ManleyReviews
      @ManleyReviews  3 роки тому +4

      Oh heck yeah! Good timing, bout to release my biggest video yet tomorrow! Thanks for stopping by.

  • @nastybirdy
    @nastybirdy 2 роки тому +8

    Appreciate the foam breakdown and details, and good call on the command strips! Thinking of kitting out my home office as I'll need to record audio for my job so this has been an invaluable little guide. Cheers!

  • @Shocked-
    @Shocked- 2 роки тому +4

    This is a hidden gem of a channel. Good on you. Keep doing what your doing

  • @MortalXperiment
    @MortalXperiment 2 роки тому +27

    I actually learned alot here, you rock! Also, moving blankets are pretty amazing too (only really to be used as a small, SMALL room setup for vocals or acoustic, i hang mine from the ceiling dor my vocal booth hehe)

  • @BakiX
    @BakiX 2 роки тому +7

    One of the most refreshing channels on this site. He speaks with vulgarity but also a sense of sincerity, and he does it all while remaining entertaining and making a damn high quality video to boot. I legitimately admire the work man, keep it up 👍

  • @desertsurvival8235
    @desertsurvival8235 2 роки тому

    I only just found this Channel about 10 minutes ago, and I am impressed at the editing and the amount of work that goes into making these videos.
    Subbed.

  • @annekedebruyn7797
    @annekedebruyn7797 2 роки тому +149

    I'd like to add a counterpoint in favor of Elgato from a recording studio owner perspective.
    A large part of the voice and problem areas in sound is more around the lower part. (300-500hz range.)
    The thin foam you have will only limit the upper mid to high frequency range.
    Especially people with square small rooms will notice this.
    Elgato has made layered multiple thickness of foam to reach the lower frequencies as well as high frequencies.
    While the price is still in Elgato style, it isn't really that unreasonable.
    The panels are designed to remove first and second reflections. NOT to plaster your entire room with them which is for most scenarios, bad for your sound unless you are doing it properly with the right material.
    HOWEVER, if you are willing to go DIY. For 200 dollars you can make acoustic panels that will be better than both the cheap foam and Elgato panels. Which is also still cheaper than Elgato's solution and looks arguably better/more professional too.
    Just get Rockwool and make a cheap wooden frame around it. Then nail a thin cloth sheet around it. (Or if you want to go really cheap, just wrap a sheet of cloth around the Rockwool.)
    Then experiment in your room what sounds best before you hang it.
    If you still have some high frequency reflections from windows, I just put cheap foam around it.
    Other then that, great video. Your content is fantastic!

    • @plixplop
      @plixplop 2 роки тому +10

      A quick test to gauge how much reflection a piece of foam actually blocks: rub your fingertips together lightly a few inches from your ear, the rubbing noise is fairly high frequency. Now put the foam block in between your ear and your fingers. Cheap Amazon audio foam does NOTHING to block the sound passing through the foam because it's almost entirely air, which means it also won't do much to stop high frequency sound from passing through, hitting the wall, and echoing back out.

    •  2 роки тому +3

      Covering your walls entirely works just fine if you just want a dead room, but if you want to strike a balance and make the room still sound natural, you're definitely going to want thicker panels than 2 inches. Totally agree.

    • @samdavis1228
      @samdavis1228 2 роки тому +8

      @@plixplop Dude you do realise the foam doesnt just float in the air, they work with the wall.

    • @SausageFingers420
      @SausageFingers420 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah, but each layer on the Elgato panels is less than an inch thick. Just get some of that underfloor foam they sell at Home Depot and glue it between the cardboard and Auralex wedges. Boom, dual density for 2/3 the price!

    • @AironExTv
      @AironExTv 2 роки тому

      This is standard good advice for people recording in a room. In this case your voice is the emitter (for mixing it's the speakers) and the microphone is the recipient)for mixing your ears). You cover the first and secondary reflection points, since those mess up your sound the most. Lower frequencies are emitted in a radial pattern, like water wave from a stone thrown i to a pond. The higher the frequencies, the most directed they are. That's the reason you're covering a surface behind yourself talking in to the microphone, and not just the surface behind the microphone itself (bounce in the back of the mic or to other walls).
      There are accoustic foams. The graph displayed at 5:23 shows how some are useful and any product you cannot find such a graph for, stay away. With increased thickness you absorb lower frequencies. By the way, the reason for placing thick triangular absorbers in corners is that low frequency energy tends to collect well there, so it's a good way to get rid of what you don't want to end up in your microphone. Inspiring video. Thanks for sharing.

  • @pauwel9380
    @pauwel9380 2 роки тому +15

    apholstery foam and rockwool work very well as replacements for the more high end panels, I took the foam from some thick couch cushions and stacked them in the corners and just that deadened the room a lot, you can also use cushy furniture like couches or lounge chairs to cover a large portion of your bare wall space, also find moving blankets to be good materials (I use one effectively like a rug) for covering things like doors

  • @gusamon5847
    @gusamon5847 3 роки тому +24

    That was the most entertaining review wtf
    I just watched ten minutes of you just talking about foam

    • @ManleyReviews
      @ManleyReviews  3 роки тому +9

      Just wait until my paint drying video

  • @marceln3107
    @marceln3107 4 місяці тому

    Funny as hell and most important, very valueable content! Thanks buddy

  • @123Zhyar
    @123Zhyar 2 роки тому +4

    One of the best creators on this platform hands down! Binge-watching all your vids :)

  • @bolland83
    @bolland83 2 роки тому +67

    Another thing to consider, is don't over do it. Covering every single surface leads to a room that sounds dead, lifeless, and unnatural.

    • @TorutheRedFox
      @TorutheRedFox Рік тому +3

      i mean you can add life in a controlled manner by adding an effect chain to the recording

    • @jayjaybirdsnest
      @jayjaybirdsnest Рік тому +1

      Which is kinda how this video sounds haha
      (no offence to the creator, but i really don't like how the recording/voice sounds in this video)

    • @TorutheRedFox
      @TorutheRedFox Рік тому +1

      @@jayjaybirdsnest how it sounds is also down to other factors such as how close you are to the microphone (the closer you are, the more low end you get)

    • @wadimek116
      @wadimek116 10 місяців тому +1

      It won't sound dead if balanced on all frequencies is the same. It will sound dead only if you dampen certain frequency range more than others

    • @Tarets
      @Tarets 8 місяців тому

      Who the hell upvotes that? You don't sound treat your room to make it sound natural. You treat it to eliminate reverb and resonance, so that you can record in it.

  • @yogeshhingorani982
    @yogeshhingorani982 Рік тому +1

    Your videos are always entertaining. Keep up the good work

  • @ronnelmarckestrella2811
    @ronnelmarckestrella2811 3 роки тому +2

    FINALLY. Been waiting for this for a long time

  • @CaptainAstronaut
    @CaptainAstronaut 2 роки тому +7

    Great Video! and yes, many Elgato's products are ridiculously overpriced, and more people need to be talking about it so they stop getting away with it

  • @isurf239
    @isurf239 3 роки тому +2

    dropping so much knowledge thank you !!

    • @loops4000
      @loops4000 3 роки тому +1

      why were u the only one that did not get like Sadge

    • @ManleyReviews
      @ManleyReviews  2 роки тому

      whoopsies

  • @Poopary
    @Poopary 2 роки тому

    Your videos never dissapoint, and are top notch!

  • @zakonelli9897
    @zakonelli9897 2 роки тому

    Dope vid, love the editing, new subscriber

  • @freakyninjaman3
    @freakyninjaman3 3 роки тому +40

    Great video! I had no idea that studio foam was so cheap, but this seems pretty accessible.

    • @ManleyReviews
      @ManleyReviews  3 роки тому +4

      Thanks! Yeah trying to spread the word

  • @MrGermandeutsch
    @MrGermandeutsch 2 роки тому +4

    Even tho I have some severe anxiety issues, this video gave me the motivation to start a youtube career.
    The sheer positive aura this man is emitting just feels so great!

    • @ManleyReviews
      @ManleyReviews  2 роки тому +2

      Literally had 700 subs a year and a half ago. Just make the videos you yourself would watch!

  • @kaw8473
    @kaw8473 Рік тому

    This was extremely interesting and informative. Subscribed.

  • @CrazyGamerDude17
    @CrazyGamerDude17 2 роки тому +3

    2 things to help without changing your room, get a mic with a foam cover, get a noise compression app such as RTX voice

  • @preston2472
    @preston2472 2 роки тому +3

    ur such a good creator bro keep it up ur channel doesn't NEARLY have enough subs

  • @thejoshthat
    @thejoshthat 3 місяці тому

    lol I watched that other guys video right before this lmao this ending was perfect!
    Thanks man! Subbed, great attitude!

  • @Radikus
    @Radikus 2 роки тому

    Great info, and the sound is what initially made me like your videos... Then the energy you display

  • @HexJK
    @HexJK 2 роки тому +4

    Egg Crate foam panels are also used in many forms of packaging, so you can often find them pretty cheap in bulk (when sold as packaging, as opposed to soundproofing). Unfortunately, it's actually kind of rare to find it sold as packaging anymore because now everyone is paying top dollar to coat their walls in packaging materials lmao.

    • @johnybloom5575
      @johnybloom5575 Рік тому

      Thats not the same

    • @pedrosilvamusician
      @pedrosilvamusician 11 місяців тому

      Egg crates don't do anything, that's a myth. They have no mass to absorb sound

  • @plixplop
    @plixplop 2 роки тому +36

    Here's a tip to use foam panels efficiently if you can't afford to cover entire walls with them or don't want your room to look like a dedicated recording studio:
    You will need a hand mirror and an assistant. Sit at your desk with the microphone positioned as it will be in use. Then your assistant puts the mirror flat onto the wall, and moves it around until you can see the microphone reflected in the mirror. You can rotate your head to see the mirror, just try to keep your head in the same place. This point on the wall where you see the microphone reflection is where the majority of sound will bounce from your mouth, off the wall, to the microphone (sound bounces off walls at the same angle that light is reflected from a mirror, at least accurately enough for our purposes).
    Manley explains that you should place foam panels exactly in front, behind and to your left and right - this is a good general rule, but the mirror technique will help you find exactly where the most troublesome echo points are.
    Edit: OH, and if you use a mic for voice chat and play your sound through speakers for gaming or video conferencing etc - do this same trick, but use it to find the reflection angles between your speakers and your microphone (put your head where each speaker sits to see the reflection points in your assistant's mirror, and note where you can see the mic reflected).

  • @mudassirfarooqui6338
    @mudassirfarooqui6338 2 роки тому

    Man you got such a huge community in the time I was off, props to ya

  • @Cosmopolit257
    @Cosmopolit257 2 роки тому

    Thank You I really needed all of these information on studio foam, where to get it tho for the best possible price and what will basically do the work
    I appreciate, really
    You have an Awesome channel! :')

  • @roninlviaquez
    @roninlviaquez 2 роки тому +13

    Graeat video, but having parallel walls does not increase reflections, it only makes some reflections to add up in a especific frecuency. Think of a mirrored room, there is not going to be less reflections if you change the shape, what is going to hapen if you skew your room is that you will never have the “infinite hallway” effect

    • @propheinx2250
      @propheinx2250 2 роки тому

      You ever wonder what it'd look like inside of a spherical mirror?

    • @iurigrang
      @iurigrang 2 роки тому

      They increase the damage to the sound, which is the important part.
      Concentrating all the energy in a few frequencies makes the reverb ugly af and longer, even if decibel wise it's about the same.

    • @roninlviaquez
      @roninlviaquez 2 роки тому

      @@propheinx2250 there is a VSauce video about it!

    • @NullConflict
      @NullConflict 2 роки тому

      You are mistaken. Parallel walls cause both resonance and reverberation. If you sing in a cathedral specific harmonic frequencies will be louder (resonance) and you'll also hear plenty of reverb (reflections).

    • @roninlviaquez
      @roninlviaquez 2 роки тому +1

      @@NullConflict parallel walls do not increase overall reflections. The shape of the room might increse resonance in some places, but yo cant do this without reducing resonance on other places, so the total resonance remanis the same. Reverb is caused by the material’s ability to absorb or reflect waves, so the shape of the room has very little to do with the amount of reverb

  • @mazie7340
    @mazie7340 3 роки тому +6

    I’m always surprised how big the room really is

    • @ManleyReviews
      @ManleyReviews  3 роки тому +2

      It's a bit of an optical illusion. It's about 13x12 feet and like 10 feet high the camera's zoom makes it appear much different.

  • @journeyburney
    @journeyburney Рік тому

    2:53 that PT reference was subtle lmao good job

  • @loganesten2180
    @loganesten2180 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks man, I appreciate your videos so much! These companies think we’re idiots, and it’s crazy to think we might be turning into them because of stuff like this, so keep it up. Much love and support!

  • @spoookley
    @spoookley Рік тому +5

    also here’s another tip: if you don’t have enough foam/money to get foam, just absolutely fill every blank space in your recording studio with decorations, book shelves, blankets, furniture, etc. the goal is to diffuse the sound waves, and every little improvement is still an improvement. just make it a cozy environment and it’ll become a lot better for recording :)

    • @pedrosilvamusician
      @pedrosilvamusician 11 місяців тому

      This is very important. A lot of people don't realize that some of the best diffusers are, in fact, bookshelves and stuff like that. Also sofas and beds help

    • @DrFyder
      @DrFyder 7 місяців тому

      How is that less expensive?

  • @norjia
    @norjia 2 роки тому +4

    Foam panels generally are meant to disperse sound. Not absorb it. That's what bass traps do or actual noise isolation panels. (I built a full vocal booth for voice over purposes and had to dive onto the topic out of necessity)
    So when it comes to the thin foam the thickness is pretty much.. ignorable, what matters is how well it disperses the sound. Unless you wanna build a vocal booth at which point... Just grab a bunch of sound insulation foam and build a bass trap around your desk lol. That's gonna keep the neighbours from hearing you rage a during a match. (Just keep in mind that it's gonna get extremely warm in there very quickly especially if you also have your computer in there)

    • @sonebeats
      @sonebeats 2 роки тому +2

      Acoustic foam panels are primarily absorption.
      Diffusers are what is used to scatter sound waves rather than absorb them, they have a different application tho.
      But yea the most common bass traps are absorption, like acoustic foam panels. Often they are the same material, just thicker and usually positioned in a way to better target lower frequencies. Thats without going into the other types of bass trap tho.
      Because thin acoustic foam panels only really absorb in the mid-high freqs. But for speech that isnt too much of an issue.
      Generally for this type of absorption, the thicker the panel the the lower the frequencies it can tame. Theres other factors too though.
      Acoustic foam and bass traps are porous, so even 100% coverage isnt going to stop the sound travelling through the wall. At least not the extent of someone expecting soundproofing.
      Soundproofing to keep the neighbours happy is a different beast, sound insulation within walls is the best bet there, and good sealing of any holes and gaps

    • @norjia
      @norjia 2 роки тому

      @@sonebeats i went the extra mile and used rockwool for my vocal booth. Sure it makes the mic sound just a tad flatter but i just EQ that back in as needed and it genuinely is just like a dead chamber when you enter it.

    • @wadimek116
      @wadimek116 10 місяців тому

      Those panels are absorbers not diffusers your wrong. Foam is absorber not diffuser

    • @norjia
      @norjia 10 місяців тому

      @@wadimek116 no, Not always. If you have a thin panel it's gonna act as diffusers. Sound absorptions need thick and dense material like rockwool, aka sound insulation material. Or those big foam panels with a felt layer and a 5CM dense foam layer.
      Your 1cm porous foam Panels with those triangles on top is diffusion material those triangles or waves are there to bounce the sound in between them until it loses it's energy* the elgato panels, i can see as more of a absorber material due to how dense they are. Tho absorbers are always gonna be more expensive compared to diffusers. Unless you're gonna make your own using rockwool, i built a whole insulated vocal booth using that stuff and only covered the rockwool in the walls in a layer of fabric so it looked nice. Worked like a charm and flat out killed reverberations

  • @alec9370
    @alec9370 Рік тому

    this is a great video explaining studio foam in an easy to understand manner. thanks!

  • @Walter-_-_White
    @Walter-_-_White Рік тому +1

    Aight how tf don’t you have over 1M subs I thought you did due to your awesome quality. You’re doing something right keep it up!

  • @nullx8
    @nullx8 2 роки тому +7

    holy cow, i didn't even know Elgato makes those ... i plastered my walls and ceiling with square egg-trays .. looks cosy and works like a charm, total cost: 22 Bucks (including the glue) :P

    • @SausageFingers420
      @SausageFingers420 2 роки тому +1

      You're putting a lot of faith in your wiring my dude. Those things are flammable as fuuuuuuck.

    • @MrMoon-hy6pn
      @MrMoon-hy6pn 2 роки тому

      @@SausageFingers420 I hope electrical fires from crappy wiring/outlets isn't a huge concern for you. I would be more worried about carpets or literally anything else.

  • @zarigata
    @zarigata 2 роки тому +3

    youtube algorithims at the best..... a friend saw your channel BY LUCK, and brought to me... KEEP THE HELL OF A GOOD WORK KOMRAD... loved all the videos....

  • @massaosaito4084
    @massaosaito4084 Рік тому

    Dude, I just found out your channel, it's pretty great, liked the content :)

  • @maxdishaw
    @maxdishaw Рік тому

    Great video! And really appreciate how you touched on microphone positioning also. As someone who’s been working in audio for 20 years it’s astonishing to me how many top level UA-camrs I have no fucking clue how to use their microphone and are like 4 feet away from while also using a pop filter… I hope this videos helps a lot of people. You made some really valuable points.

  • @henryhargraves4184
    @henryhargraves4184 2 роки тому +4

    I came here to learn about a gaming scam and I left with an in depth guide about how to soundproof my room. Something I always wondered about, Nice. What do you do if you have a window in front of you?

    • @hello7937
      @hello7937 2 роки тому

      you can hang blankets in front of the window

  • @cunningdingus7781
    @cunningdingus7781 3 роки тому +3

    That's actually really handy I always thought that stuff was thousands of dollars.

    • @ManleyReviews
      @ManleyReviews  3 роки тому

      The good stuff can be. pro PRO audio is a different league but for anything that's not getting Grammies it's fine.

    • @xxxjaded776_5
      @xxxjaded776_5 3 роки тому +1

      with the elgato wave foam it still is hehe

  • @dooshahn
    @dooshahn 2 роки тому

    5:03 that THPS3 goal sound felt so good!

  • @M1gas
    @M1gas Рік тому

    loving the videos, thanks

  • @xxxjaded776_5
    @xxxjaded776_5 3 роки тому +3

    i've head of these. Like 100 bucks for 6 panels is too little for too much

  • @JeremyGreysmark
    @JeremyGreysmark 2 роки тому +3

    The problem with cheap foam is that is burns very quickly because it hasn't been treated. I would only use certified products, otherwise it might void your home insurance if they ever find out that you plastered and entire room with combustible materials.

    • @LimitedSkill1
      @LimitedSkill1 2 роки тому +1

      Was going to say the same, the cheap stuff can put spread a fire extremely fast.

  • @hufnaaratnaaf
    @hufnaaratnaaf Рік тому

    I like the fact that when you explain to us about the foam, the V-Sauce music is playing in the background :D Was actually expecting Michael to pop :D

  • @Fwoup
    @Fwoup 2 роки тому

    Goin through your channel, these vids are great man

  • @jordanwobig1037
    @jordanwobig1037 3 роки тому +9

    Liam you are a UA-cam legend already.

  • @alicesan8662
    @alicesan8662 3 роки тому +3

    Imagine having more then 4 walls in your room, couldn’t be me

    • @ManleyReviews
      @ManleyReviews  3 роки тому +1

      you living in the FOURTH DIMENSION :SHOCKED:

  • @Crowald
    @Crowald 2 роки тому

    thank you so much for this video. I've never heard of this channel before this video but I've long been looking for more professional sound absorption since I'm doing voice acting now, the setup I have just isn't acceptable and knowing there's such cheap soundproofing available is a huge benefit to out of pocket costs for me.

  • @paperlessmovement
    @paperlessmovement 2 роки тому

    Great video man! Keep it up!

  • @DavidVarela2000
    @DavidVarela2000 2 роки тому +5

    The foam you use on your room is pretty much a scam as well. You should use propper isolating material like roockwool panels. It might even be cheaper than foam if you go DIY

    • @sucyshi
      @sucyshi 2 роки тому

      Idk audio, but I do hydroponics and rockwool is a health hazard that I'd never want on my walls

    • @DavidVarela2000
      @DavidVarela2000 2 роки тому

      @@sucyshi you put the rockwool in a wood frame and cover it with fabric so it wont be a health hazard

    • @ManleyReviews
      @ManleyReviews  Рік тому

      for what I paid for it back in 2013 i'm still very happy with it.

  • @reinaldomartinez13
    @reinaldomartinez13 2 роки тому +8

    Aight so of course youtube would recommend me this video after I bought a set of 2 of these. Now i'm not some kind of elgato fanboy nor did I even know they were advertising as gaming foam which is absolutely stupid, but I wanted to clarify a couple points/mistakes you made for anyone that isn't coming from a gaming perspective. The reason I bought these isn't because I'm a gaming youtuber, but rather I'm coming from a music/audio perspective. Something you mentioned is the price per panel and said that more is better for the money, while that is true if you're cutting corners, for someone who needs cleaner audio from across the spectrum, you need higher quality foam panels, especially for the lower end, which is why those 48 for $50 ones aren't going to cut it since they foam is such low quality, yeah you can cover more surface area, and makes more sense if you have a large room, but if you have a smaller room like me, surface area becomes less of an issue. Everything you said about mics are true. So if anyone's buying foam for music purposes, you're going to need higher quality foam, cheap stuff aint gonna cut it, but creating your panels are definitely and option thought i didn't do it myself because of time constraints.

  • @pauldrobles
    @pauldrobles Рік тому +1

    This isn't the foam video I thought I wanted but this is the foam video I needed

  • @musicbyshadofox
    @musicbyshadofox 2 роки тому

    i freaking love your energy.

  • @john_john_john
    @john_john_john Рік тому +3

    Just beware of how flammable the foam you're getting is. If you're not careful or buy the ultra cheapo AliExpress stuff, you might be turning your room into a giant match.

  • @joshchaplin3705
    @joshchaplin3705 Рік тому

    hey man quality content. subject matter and editing.

  • @joshroth4685
    @joshroth4685 3 роки тому +3

    The sequel we didn’t even know that we needed 🙌

  • @NuriMustafa-yq5bu
    @NuriMustafa-yq5bu 2 роки тому

    Thank you so much for awesome advices and tips! This is very useful knowledge! Thank you!
    Great video and sound too!

  • @waitwhat552
    @waitwhat552 2 роки тому

    just got this in my recommended, great content man i hope to see you blow up soon! also subbed

  • @PWNHUB
    @PWNHUB 2 роки тому +5

    0:44 Linus already went over the Elgato foam and turns out for high end production it's worth the money. Also, a majority of streaming people use condensers which cause a lot of echo catching.
    2:14 no everything you just said was horribly inaccurate, nothing at all was correct. Sound travels in waves, waves hitting a hard surface tend to bounce, and waves hitting a rough surface do not tend to reflect causing echo. This is however being very broad about it, as they do still reflect but not nearly as much and only a portion of the wave form. This is why carpet is a great idea for studios.

  • @LarzR
    @LarzR 2 роки тому

    That roast at the end got me 😂

  • @nickysinz3635
    @nickysinz3635 2 роки тому

    Jeez the time it must have taken to edit all of this !!!! I LOVE THE WORK !!!!!

  • @Perc1000
    @Perc1000 2 роки тому +1

    this wasnt even a video about the gaming foam it was just a foam tutorial
    liked and subscribed

  • @devan3270
    @devan3270 3 роки тому +1

    yo thanks this actually helped me out a lot

  • @chintan3957
    @chintan3957 2 роки тому +1

    You got me at the Homeless part

  • @smoke.tokes420
    @smoke.tokes420 Рік тому

    thx bro took your advice from the video and will say im very happy whit my sealing it looks good i didnt even want it for sound proofing i just wanted it for looks

  • @3vanguardofthephoenix335
    @3vanguardofthephoenix335 2 роки тому

    Loved the alchemy reference :)

  • @jutsujerry
    @jutsujerry 3 роки тому

    Yo this is a great review haha super entertaining. Cheers!

  • @IzzzyIs
    @IzzzyIs Рік тому

    Interesting, maybe I should incorporate some of this foam later in my UA-cam career, thx for the advice

  • @jaydenwilson9522
    @jaydenwilson9522 2 роки тому

    LOVE YA MAN!!!!! GG AND CANT WAIT 4 U TO HIT 100K SUBS!!!!

  • @Omar.Mohammed1
    @Omar.Mohammed1 Місяць тому

    For the first time I saw a video for you.. You are a very honest man, and you advise with integrity. Actually I remembered someone who has a channel named Soundproof guide, You both are trustworthy and deserve all the support. Thank you ❤

  • @justinTime077
    @justinTime077 Рік тому

    Also yes, I don’t know why I’m only just finding you, but you rock man.

  • @counterstrikelord
    @counterstrikelord 2 роки тому

    I was wondering why your channel is so good and yet so underrated, then I checked how often you upload. Anyway awesome video dude

    • @ManleyReviews
      @ManleyReviews  2 роки тому +1

      HA haa... yeah funny story this video was a 4 day quickie while i was working on the CP one. I'm almost done with my newest one, but I'm in the middle of doing a big editing job for a competition rn.

    • @counterstrikelord
      @counterstrikelord 2 роки тому

      @@ManleyReviews all good dude, I’d take quality over quantity any day. Keep it up 👍

  • @skittlez0fd00m5
    @skittlez0fd00m5 2 роки тому

    Dude your channel is amazing you deserve subs 😂

  • @FearTheTurle21
    @FearTheTurle21 2 роки тому

    I only found this channel the other day and love it. I have no reason to care about foam, I'm not a UA-camr or streamer and have no plans to be. But this was fascinating and hooked me the whole time lol. Love the channel, love all the videos.

    • @ManleyReviews
      @ManleyReviews  2 роки тому

      Hell yeah, thanks for peeping man, I'll be droppin a vid soon I know it's been a few.

  • @TheMeanJoeGreen
    @TheMeanJoeGreen 2 роки тому

    This channel is bound to blow up any day

  • @Oleg-oe1rc
    @Oleg-oe1rc Рік тому +2

    Thank you for making these videos. Basically the only three things that make sense to buy a "gaming" branded product is a GPU, monitor, and maybe a mouse. Everything else I use for gaming blows the "gaming" branded stuff out of the water in both performance to cost ratio and just raw perforance overall. Need a "gaming" keyboard, just get a good mechanical keyboard. Need a "gaming" headset, just get a good pair of headphones and a modmic or desk mic. And same for basically everything else you can think of.

  • @ChoboUnjeon
    @ChoboUnjeon 2 роки тому

    that 'crazy hamburger' clip was a throwback lol

  • @taylorwalker7282
    @taylorwalker7282 2 роки тому

    How are you not more popular? Seriously man your quality of content is above most with half a mil subs or better. Great work.

    • @ManleyReviews
      @ManleyReviews  2 роки тому +2

      Gotta make vids like you've already made it! Thank you.

  • @blueracer66
    @blueracer66 2 роки тому

    Good stuff. Thank you for sounding genuine.

    • @ManleyReviews
      @ManleyReviews  2 роки тому +1

      You're welcome. It's hard when on camera I still feel awkward infront of it.

    • @blueracer66
      @blueracer66 2 роки тому

      @@ManleyReviews It's funny how a lot of other YT'ers were praising the Elgato Wave Panels shamelessly stating that the 6 panels alone made a great difference in their soundproofing. Preposterous statements. Anyway, I subscribed to your channel. 🤙

  • @hazcat640
    @hazcat640 Рік тому

    You earned my subscription when you caught yourself using off of and changed it to from. 👏

  • @zzirSupeR
    @zzirSupeR 2 роки тому

    You sir have earned my sub with just 2 videos

  • @bvco0611BR
    @bvco0611BR 2 роки тому

    I never expected to spend my time watching a video about foam but man, your content is simply amazing

    • @ManleyReviews
      @ManleyReviews  2 роки тому +1

      i never expected to make a video about it either lmao.