I do not understand how you think the Rav4 Prime only gets 35 miles electric in the real world. I've owned mine for 3 months now and the worst figure I've seen is 41 miles and the average is 45 miles. In addition, the combined gas/electric average I am showing after 2100 miles is 66.2 mpg - which includes over 1000 miles of out-of-town driving where I was mostly reliant on petrol. The only way you would see 35 miles range would be extreme low temperatures. Update: I've now owned the vehicle almost 9 months and I've done 5,152 miles. Given that most of my driving is in-town (except for weekends away) the average fuel consumption has risen to 79.5 mpg combined. On pure electric I've averaged a 41 mile range in winter and 44 in summer (yes, temperature certainly does affect mileage from the battery). Most of my driving on electric is in-town so I'm typically doing less than 50mph so maybe that explains the difference in battery range. Much to my surprise the suspension has somehow 'settled in' and the vehicle is much more responsive on corners and better under brakes. I wasn't sure if this was simply a question of familiarity so I test drove a brand new Rav4 Prime and found the test vehicle was just the way I remembered - vague on the corners and too much dive on the brakes. I'm at a loss to explain this phenomena. I've experience zero mechanical issues and to-date nothing bad to report. The power is great - nothing like a Tesla in terms of performance but you can use the power without worrying about what it's doing to your motor and your driving range. In particular the power is useful for overtaking and I cannot over-emphasize how much better this is compared to (most) gasoline-only SUVs. I also like the turning circle which is excellent (especially compared to my Volvo which has a turning circle roughly comparable to an ocean liner). I would have plenty of design question for Toyota ranging from 'why is the car not all-led?' to 'why didn't you mount the rear wiper on the top of the window?'. I'd also question why seat memory and passenger power seats are not standard features - if you do have 9 way adjustable seats, why on earth wouldn't you fit memory as a part of that option?. The vehicle is also lifted to accommodate the battery pack under the vehicle. So okay, this preserves ride height but the suspension really needed re-tuning to accommodate the lift - hopefully a later version of this vehicle will come with improved suspension and better brakes. Even with the negatives, this is still an excellent vehicle and a lot of fun to drive.
Thanks for the info. One of my friends actually owns this and he told me that he gets somewhere in between 40 - 45 miles on EV range only, which suits him a lot because his daily city driving is around 55 - 60 miles in total. He leaves his home in the morning with full charge and first drops his kids at school which is about 20 miles from his home and from there, about 15 miles more to his office where he puts it on charge again. Before he leaves for his home in the evening, his car gets fully charged so he drives home on EV only. So basically the engine hardly kicks in during his driving in city. When I last sat in his car, he told me that it has been more than 2 months since his last visit to a petrol station. I think that's a huge advantage of a PHEV.
In my normal commute (with a 200km commute round trip two days per week and the rest of work days about 50 km commute) I can get up to 156 mpg in the summer (plugin at work). The key is of course to get it plugged in as much as possible. In the winter I get somewhere around 100mpg (we are talking northern Sweden winter with down to -25 Celsius). I think that is fairly good.
Looked at this, very nice but expensive and no good for me for plugging in.. so I bought a fully loaded RX450h from Lexus next door to the Toyota dealership... better spec and cheaper as a used car.
The thing no one is talking about is the reliability. You pay more money upfront to save on costa further down the road. These hybrids will last you for the next 10 years with fluid and filter changes only so think about that
Another great video. It would be nice to see a pure hybrid and a plug in hybrid come pare miles per gallon because 55 miles per gallon is what I’ve been told the hybrid does. If that is true then the extra cost is not worth it. It would be only worth it if you just used it in pure EV mode to commute to and from work if you worked less than the EV. can do
I wonder why it is so overpriced in the UK and EU in general. It's pretty much a 1:1 between the pound price and the USD price, maybe even a bit more. It's also interesting that the Prime actually has a higher tow rating than the standard Rav4 Hybrid in North America, both lower than the 1500kg quoted here.
Best of both worlds actually ... EV for city daily ... gas for real trips, so you don't have to sweat looking for a charger. This may be my next ride ...
Another super presentation highlighting all the most important stats ans facts. I do think this car is a real winner for Toyota. A fantastic first step to fully electric from a company that offers the best quality and service in this segment of the market.
In 2024 you can buy a good 2020 or 21 model for much less than the original price. Be warned the Car Tax is high ! Build quality and the EV range is superb. Fit and finish exceeds most other brands IMHO. It also has a good road presence too. Other drivers respect the higher SUV presence and it is a brilliant car.
How can a full plugin hybrid alternative be a good option when the statistics show that they break down and are very unreliable unlike the version in Toyota and a little bit in Honda. So that's not a good recommendation. To me recommendations have to include reliability. Since it is a very important part of car ownership. To me it's the most important part.
Just wish it was £10, 000 cheaper and a much better infotainment. Then I'd snap it up.. It seems to sell anyway so no chance of a cheaper one and even used ones are about the same price as new...
Love the car but the price, wow. What you will save in the mpg stakes will also be swallowed up by the luxury car tax which is an extra £310 for the first five years.
It’s not all about saving, this is the first rav4 that has actually some power and is not a slug. For a lot of people that is a good selling point, especially for me. Wanted to get a rav4 because I like the design but Until now it was to sluggish for me
Ive got the Self charging hybrid RAV4 getting mid 50s on a run and 78mpg just running around town , can’t really see any Advantage with the extra cost of the plug in Version ? Only had the car eight weeks but I think the next car will be full electric
Volvo recharge is uncomparable with this one. range, ride characteristics (mainly front wheel drive) , 3 cylinder petrol engine. I think toyota is a bit expensive but volvo gives a lot less for money.
Great vid, great presenter, but as a non-PHEV hybrid owner I would never pay that premium for the PHEV. I've done 7k miles in my 2020 non PHEV hybrid model and I've got 45-50 miles p/g. For my mileage/fuel cost it is not worth the cost and I can't charge on an easy basis.
Well the biggest selling point is actually not that but the power! RAV4 hybrid has that problem, it’s slow as shit. I loved the look of the rav4 but until now it was just a sluggish car. I am waiting now for the rav4 phev to arrive in my country since the hybrid version was just not an option for me. And the electricity “savings” I don’t care, I will probably charge it once a week just to keep the battery alive
I was thinking....'Hmmm, you mean Toyota may have finally produced a Hybrid that I'd actually buy?' And then you mentioned the price!!!!!!!!!! Sorry Toyota - I'd rather spend the money on a Yaris GR and the change on an old Land Cruiser Amazon!!!
I wanted to buy. But after I hear that no quick charger option (about 20min etc) in the electric charger station, I give up to buy Rav4 Plug in Hybrid. No body dont talk about that. But I think absent to quick charge option is biggest problem. Most of the people don't want to wait 2.5 hour in overseas countries and 5 hours in Japan. It is not best. Mitsubishi eclipse cross Phev has quick charger option and 10000 dolar cheaper than rav4 phev.
It will certainly be welcomed. However, I am not sure it's really suitable for long trips relying on DC fast charging. The range is just too short. It's pretty much only for people who commute for less than 60km and don't want to bother with DC fast charging on longer trips. Although charge for 25 mins every 55km is kind of fun. :D
55 MPG??? did you floor it throughout the test? Several reports indicate that, when the battery is empty, the car will still do 51 mpg at 60-70 mph using the 2.5 petrol alone. Naturally, is charged often, you'll get the best from it. and the 50 miles of EV range (EV range rated at 75 km. in Denmark), quite a few people should be able to do their daily commute (or a large part of it) in EV alone. If I buy this, twice a month I'll need to do 65 miles out and back (i.e. at total of 130 miles). and with about 60 miles of EV range (infinite mpg) I expect an average well over 55 mpg!. Especially since my daily commute will be in EV mode.
It's rated for 38 MPG by the EPA for the petrol engine. Adding EV usage is kind of weird since it depends completely on the total driven. I think the 55MPG includes the EV portion. Unless she meant UK gallon, which is 20% more than the US gallon. That's why we should all use metric system. :D
MY LARGE SUV IS 100% SOLAR POWERED It works like this: The sun (solar power) causes certain plants to grow, these plants decay naturally and turn into an “All Natural” Energy source that can be easily converted into different forms. One form, called “gasoline” is easily transported and stored until the solar energy is needed. I can drive straight through from Maine to California and recharge my solar powered SUV in less than 4 minutes by conveniently located charging stations. The solar power, (in liquid form) is pumped into my vehicle in a couple of minutes, and I'm back on the road again. If you doubt me, ask any geologist. If there was no sun, there would be no fossil fuels. You should try a solar powered vehicle, they’re great!
Ι agree ! With a car like this you can have economy in the city , full electric every day work-home ride and in a long trip you won t bother about charging meanwhile
Wasn't expecting a good review here. Toyota are very behind the curve at the moment and have outdated views from the top down. That said it does seem decent.
520l space in boot is not a lot of space in a car of that size and I can't believe there is no through loading. Would never buy a PHEV over normal hybrid.
This review instills some faith on car reviewers, at least European ones. All American car reviewers are on Toyota payroll, also comment section has paid commentary from Toyota.
How much??? You’d have to be off your rocker to buy at that price. I wouldn’t even lease it. Buy a great real car for half the price and put the tens of thousands in the bank. You’re welcome.
Why not? If you daily commute is within 50km and you do some weekend trips, then I'd say PHEV fits quite well. Don't know the status of DC fast charging network in UK though.
I do not understand how you think the Rav4 Prime only gets 35 miles electric in the real world. I've owned mine for 3 months now and the worst figure I've seen is 41 miles and the average is 45 miles. In addition, the combined gas/electric average I am showing after 2100 miles is 66.2 mpg - which includes over 1000 miles of out-of-town driving where I was mostly reliant on petrol. The only way you would see 35 miles range would be extreme low temperatures.
Update: I've now owned the vehicle almost 9 months and I've done 5,152 miles. Given that most of my driving is in-town (except for weekends away) the average fuel consumption has risen to 79.5 mpg combined. On pure electric I've averaged a 41 mile range in winter and 44 in summer (yes, temperature certainly does affect mileage from the battery). Most of my driving on electric is in-town so I'm typically doing less than 50mph so maybe that explains the difference in battery range.
Much to my surprise the suspension has somehow 'settled in' and the vehicle is much more responsive on corners and better under brakes. I wasn't sure if this was simply a question of familiarity so I test drove a brand new Rav4 Prime and found the test vehicle was just the way I remembered - vague on the corners and too much dive on the brakes. I'm at a loss to explain this phenomena.
I've experience zero mechanical issues and to-date nothing bad to report. The power is great - nothing like a Tesla in terms of performance but you can use the power without worrying about what it's doing to your motor and your driving range. In particular the power is useful for overtaking and I cannot over-emphasize how much better this is compared to (most) gasoline-only SUVs. I also like the turning circle which is excellent (especially compared to my Volvo which has a turning circle roughly comparable to an ocean liner).
I would have plenty of design question for Toyota ranging from 'why is the car not all-led?' to 'why didn't you mount the rear wiper on the top of the window?'. I'd also question why seat memory and passenger power seats are not standard features - if you do have 9 way adjustable seats, why on earth wouldn't you fit memory as a part of that option?. The vehicle is also lifted to accommodate the battery pack under the vehicle. So okay, this preserves ride height but the suspension really needed re-tuning to accommodate the lift - hopefully a later version of this vehicle will come with improved suspension and better brakes.
Even with the negatives, this is still an excellent vehicle and a lot of fun to drive.
Thanks for the info. One of my friends actually owns this and he told me that he gets somewhere in between 40 - 45 miles on EV range only, which suits him a lot because his daily city driving is around 55 - 60 miles in total. He leaves his home in the morning with full charge and first drops his kids at school which is about 20 miles from his home and from there, about 15 miles more to his office where he puts it on charge again. Before he leaves for his home in the evening, his car gets fully charged so he drives home on EV only. So basically the engine hardly kicks in during his driving in city. When I last sat in his car, he told me that it has been more than 2 months since his last visit to a petrol station. I think that's a huge advantage of a PHEV.
This is a brilliant comment from an actual owner. I have been looking at other phev and I can’t see any that’s better value than a rav4
Hi bro, i am from Africa, Kenya if you are i. Position to bless me with such a unit or any other I'll be glad to own a car in my life.
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In my normal commute (with a 200km commute round trip two days per week and the rest of work days about 50 km commute) I can get up to 156 mpg in the summer (plugin at work). The key is of course to get it plugged in as much as possible. In the winter I get somewhere around 100mpg (we are talking northern Sweden winter with down to -25 Celsius). I think that is fairly good.
The SE Prime model has most of the features of the model tested here, but for $38000. In the US at least, along with a $7500 tax rebate.
I think a Vauxhall ampera or Chevy volt would do really well now.
10 years ahead of their time.....
$7500 credit and an all wheel drive while driving mostly on battery. Sounds like a win win.
Looked at this, very nice but expensive and no good for me for plugging in.. so I bought a fully loaded RX450h from Lexus next door to the Toyota dealership... better spec and cheaper as a used car.
The thing no one is talking about is the reliability. You pay more money upfront to save on costa further down the road. These hybrids will last you for the next 10 years with fluid and filter changes only so think about that
Really balanced review, thanks
Another great video. It would be nice to see a pure hybrid and a plug in hybrid come pare miles per gallon because 55 miles per gallon is what I’ve been told the hybrid does. If that is true then the extra cost is not worth it. It would be only worth it if you just used it in pure EV mode to commute to and from work if you worked less than the EV. can do
Let's hope it's not like the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV and bought by lots of company car drivers who never, ever plug it in.
I wonder why it is so overpriced in the UK and EU in general. It's pretty much a 1:1 between the pound price and the USD price, maybe even a bit more. It's also interesting that the Prime actually has a higher tow rating than the standard Rav4 Hybrid in North America, both lower than the 1500kg quoted here.
Very valuable test but like you said, 10k more expensive than competitors, which seems quite a lot
Best of both worlds actually ... EV for city daily ... gas for real trips, so you don't have to sweat looking for a charger. This may be my next ride ...
Another super presentation highlighting all the most important stats ans facts. I do think this car is a real winner for Toyota. A fantastic first step to fully electric from a company that offers the best quality and service in this segment of the market.
In 2024 you can buy a good 2020 or 21 model for much less than the original price. Be warned the Car Tax is high ! Build quality and the EV range is superb. Fit and finish exceeds most other brands IMHO. It also has a good road presence too. Other drivers respect the higher SUV presence and it is a brilliant car.
plug in full just eletric or you have option to use gasoline as well.?
How has the car gone down 9k in the last year
How can a full plugin hybrid alternative be a good option when the statistics show that they break down and are very unreliable unlike the version in Toyota and a little bit in Honda. So that's not a good recommendation. To me recommendations have to include reliability. Since it is a very important part of car ownership. To me it's the most important part.
Just wish it was £10, 000 cheaper and a much better infotainment. Then I'd snap it up.. It seems to sell anyway so no chance of a cheaper one and even used ones are about the same price as new...
Please do a review on the new Jaguar F pace plug in hybrid 🙏
I enjoyed watching the Video Review. Looks very nice 👍 In Red
👍 excellent review as usual
Heated seat button straight out of 1988!
Love the car but the price, wow. What you will save in the mpg stakes will also be swallowed up by the luxury car tax which is an extra £310 for the first five years.
It’s not all about saving, this is the first rav4 that has actually some power and is not a slug. For a lot of people that is a good selling point, especially for me. Wanted to get a rav4 because I like the design but Until now it was to sluggish for me
Thank you for the honesty
yea....i choose XC60 T8 for the same price
Bring Rav 4 to India 🇮🇳 Toyota..!
Remember when these were far smaller.....and cheaper
yes the one Scream 4 was cheaper. Looked more compact. This looks quite large.
thanx mrs
Ive got the Self charging hybrid RAV4 getting mid 50s on a run and 78mpg just running around town , can’t really see any Advantage with the extra cost of the plug in Version ? Only had the car eight weeks but I think the next car will be full electric
When you put your foot down, the ecvt box actually moves the car in the PHEV instead of moaning in the non PHEV
If only it was good looking !!!! Like the Peugeot 3008 etc !!!! Also is there a Tilt Alarm in it , re the CAT theft issue ?
Volvo recharge is uncomparable with this one. range, ride characteristics (mainly front wheel drive) , 3 cylinder petrol engine. I think toyota is a bit expensive but volvo gives a lot less for money.
Great vid, great presenter, but as a non-PHEV hybrid owner I would never pay that premium for the PHEV. I've done 7k miles in my 2020 non PHEV hybrid model and I've got 45-50 miles p/g. For my mileage/fuel cost it is not worth the cost and I can't charge on an easy basis.
Well the biggest selling point is actually not that but the power! RAV4 hybrid has that problem, it’s slow as shit. I loved the look of the rav4 but until now it was just a sluggish car. I am waiting now for the rav4 phev to arrive in my country since the hybrid version was just not an option for me. And the electricity “savings” I don’t care, I will probably charge it once a week just to keep the battery alive
Fantastic review.
I was thinking....'Hmmm, you mean Toyota may have finally produced a Hybrid that I'd actually buy?' And then you mentioned the price!!!!!!!!!! Sorry Toyota - I'd rather spend the money on a Yaris GR and the change on an old Land Cruiser Amazon!!!
Toyota can't make them fast enough, hence they priced this model to discourage more customers from thinking about one.
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I wanted to buy. But after I hear that no quick charger option (about 20min etc) in the electric charger station, I give up to buy Rav4 Plug in Hybrid. No body dont talk about that. But I think absent to quick charge option is biggest problem. Most of the people don't want to wait 2.5 hour in overseas countries and 5 hours in Japan. It is not best. Mitsubishi eclipse cross Phev has quick charger option and 10000 dolar cheaper than rav4 phev.
It will certainly be welcomed. However, I am not sure it's really suitable for long trips relying on DC fast charging. The range is just too short. It's pretty much only for people who commute for less than 60km and don't want to bother with DC fast charging on longer trips. Although charge for 25 mins every 55km is kind of fun. :D
Great review....
Glad you enjoyed it
Fantastic
55 MPG??? did you floor it throughout the test? Several reports indicate that, when the battery is empty, the car will still do 51 mpg at 60-70 mph using the 2.5 petrol alone.
Naturally, is charged often, you'll get the best from it. and the 50 miles of EV range (EV range rated at 75 km. in Denmark), quite a few people should be able to do their daily commute (or a large part of it) in EV alone.
If I buy this, twice a month I'll need to do 65 miles out and back (i.e. at total of 130 miles). and with about 60 miles of EV range (infinite mpg) I expect an average well over 55 mpg!.
Especially since my daily commute will be in EV mode.
It's rated for 38 MPG by the EPA for the petrol engine. Adding EV usage is kind of weird since it depends completely on the total driven. I think the 55MPG includes the EV portion. Unless she meant UK gallon, which is 20% more than the US gallon. That's why we should all use metric system. :D
I think I'll keep my Bolt EUV for that price
how much?!
Mad money. I'm out.
I'll wait 3 years and see what it's worth then 😁
👍 review
Best bil 👍👍
Why?
EV? HYBRID? 🤔 TOYOTA RAV4 PLUG IN HYBRID IT´S BEST EV & HYBRID VEHICLE 😎👍🏻
MY LARGE SUV IS 100% SOLAR POWERED
It works like this: The sun (solar power) causes certain plants to grow, these plants decay naturally and turn into an “All Natural” Energy source that can be easily converted into different forms. One form, called “gasoline” is easily transported and stored until the solar energy is needed. I can drive straight through from Maine to California and recharge my solar powered SUV in less than 4 minutes by conveniently located charging stations. The solar power, (in liquid form) is pumped into my vehicle in a couple of minutes, and I'm back on the road again. If you doubt me, ask any geologist. If there was no sun, there would be no fossil fuels.
You should try a solar powered vehicle, they’re great!
£10000 difference!!!!
50k lololol Let that sink in !
Hybrids are way better than electric cars.
Ι agree ! With a car like this you can have economy in the city , full electric every day work-home ride and in a long trip you won t bother about charging meanwhile
Pauses video....... £48,000 😂😂😂 for a RAV4 😂😂😂😂
Fools are still buying it,🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wasn't expecting a good review here. Toyota are very behind the curve at the moment and have outdated views from the top down. That said it does seem decent.
A little too pricey
520l space in boot is not a lot of space in a car of that size and I can't believe there is no through loading. Would never buy a PHEV over normal hybrid.
The Rav4 hybrid only have 10% more.
This review instills some faith on car reviewers, at least European ones.
All American car reviewers are on Toyota payroll, also comment section has paid commentary from Toyota.
It is not worth the price.
All I can see anymore is a suzuki
47k for a Toyota ? I’d go for the X3 30e for few more grands lol
Yes but your servicing will cost around 300, and 3-4x more on the x3... also, it is less likely to have expensive issues with toyota... lol
X3 is small
$50,000 is too much for a car…
Pretty much everything? For this price I can get a Tesla Y with autopilot
Like come on
Imagine driving this for the next 3 years! No thanks.
Why is this woman so deliberately negative about this car.
Bloated and vastly overpriced. The chattering classes will love it....
Not worth the money
No thanks. Rather drive v8
Lol. Petrolhead mong
How much??? You’d have to be off your rocker to buy at that price. I wouldn’t even lease it. Buy a great real car for half the price and put the tens of thousands in the bank. You’re welcome.
Nooooo! There is no point having hybrids. Absolute waste of time. I can't believe that people still buy them.
Why not? If you daily commute is within 50km and you do some weekend trips, then I'd say PHEV fits quite well. Don't know the status of DC fast charging network in UK though.
What an awful car design.