I kind of like the pain of getting tattooed. I'm not a masochist, but something about the pain feels...transformational, is the only way I can put it. It feels like a way to prove to myself that I'm strong. I find it helps me put things in perspective
I agree, the best way I can explain it is like a cleansing... when I get tattooed I'm usually feeling mentally better and sleep easier during the healing process. Don't really know how to explain it aside from it feels calming afterwards
Same here, it's a relaxing pain. My first Tattoo I was worried, then as soon as the needle touched me I was like owwww in good way. Ppl who cry and twitch are bitches lol
@@longjonhothan6963 I thought people who said tattoos hurt were pussies 😂 until I had a chest piece done and something on my side hip to rib 😂 I was thinking about calling it quits almost the entire time 😂😂😂😂 so painful and uncomfortable
I think it would be cool to hear an interview from cultures where tattooing is from, I wanna know what they think of mainstream tattoo culture and all the gimmicks!
Well you're not going to get it here. Inked is a celebrity/model centric platform first and foremost. It's why they still exist while others like Tattoo have gone out of business. This is what people want to see, not traditional work from countries like the Philippines or Indonesia.
The risks regarding anaesthetic make sense, but numbing cream is definitely a useful tool & really isn’t ‘a pain in the arse’ if someone applies it themselves prior. For example: Someone who lives with a chronic condition/pain may well find numbing cream useful as a way of getting the tattoo/art without more of the pain they suffer daily. Keep in mind that everyone is different with different circumstances.
I think he isnt referring to the application, but the difference it makes to some people's skin texture (that my be also vary from product to product) and pain tolerance after the effect wears off. I'm not an artist but a client. I met some artist actually encouraging me to use numbing cream on difficult spots (like ribs) and some who didnt want their clients to use it at all. Never did it, but I think if you've discussed it with the artist first, it is a legitimate way to deal with the pain. Especially under the circumstances you described.
Ah the numbing cream debate. I once used it after a 20hr session at a show. I couldn't take it anymore the following day when my artist was touching up yesterdays work. I was coming up off the table! 3 days, about 30hrs total time, brutal.
Where did you get tattooed ? My first 3 tattoos were all fine but when I decided to finish my sleeve and have my artist do it in 3 days for 8 hours a day, I was hurting. I think the skin just doesn’t heal and is super sensitive after all that pain and then going right back into it the next day. I had thought that the arm would be fine but maybe it was just because of the time frame
My tattoo artist put some numbing spray to my skin during covention to help me during the process (big piece on my tigh who go up pretty high) and it help me a lot when she was doing the white. Even if i have high pain tolerance the second day was really hard (my first convention too) so im glad she did that to me 😅
Yeah, what if you had an allergic reaction though? That's precisely why tattoo artist can't use anesthesics. I doubt she had an Epipen handy, and if it would even work on a topic allergy at all. Sometimes it's better to take the pain or book another session, than risking ruining your life, and the artist ruining his career (and emotional health) cause someone died on him.
@@matheusbravo3758it was probably bactine, which has lidocaine. Most people know if they are allergic to that or not. You don't even know if the artist asked about their allergies first or not, you're just making a bunch of assumptions. Anyone can get bactine over the counter lol, it's not a big deal.
It’s less invasive than dental surgery and less invasive than cosmetic surgery. Some people who have hundreds of hours under the needle just either want a different experience, or don’t need to go through the pain. We all have our reasons.
I was just coming to comment about his last bit about more artist getting recognition and how you always give a shout-out to a different artist every week for your viewers to check out. Keep up the great work you do and I wish I could get tattooed by you someday.
The pain will still be there when you wake up and it will still hurt more when the cream wears off or the cream gets into shit them your more likely to get a adverse reaction and conflicts with the ink colors or something. There's always a complication or a downside
I hate how much reasonable logic is behind this, largely because know I'm more inclined to get ink in areas I was otherwise going to not because I'm not great when it comes to pain.
That's EXACTLY what i thought when i got my first tattoo done, big elbow piece, then i did the second elbow, then my hands, then my throat lol. I'm going through them quick so when i finally get around to my sleeve, it's gonna be a walk in the park hahahaha
I agree with almost everything he said, especially the anesthesia part, but the old head mentality of having to "earn" a tattoo is so foolish. Who cares if people numb or not, im covered and i wish i would have used numbing lol.
My tattoo artist asked if I would try out this numbing cream, so I did. It was horrible. Instead of easing into the pain of a tattoo and let you body deal with it, the cream quit after about 30 minutes and all that 30 minutes of pain hit me all at once. I damn near blacked out and was sick for about 15 minutes. I only could take another hour of tattooing after that.
My first tattoo took 3 hours and for the most part it was just irritating… not painful… there were some spots that I literally almost jumped off the table because of the quick zap of extreme pain but instead told my artist give me just a minute… took some deep breaths and got back into the zone because the zap surprised me more than what was already done… I agree with letting the body experience the slow buildup without the numbing cream… I’ve had friends use it for long scheduled sessions and after an hour or so it’s worn off and they get that hit of pain… and can’t go much longer and tap out less than halfway… but I’ve been with them for 6 hour sessions without cream and they sat just fine.
I was one of the people who wanted to be numbed after i got my first tattoo. I wasn't able to on my second but i went to somebody else, got something a lot bigger with more detail and it didn't hurt at all, almost tickled. Truly just believe it was the first artist being super heavy handed.
I feel like the Art is the reward and the pain is the journey. You go through some pain but wind up with a beautiful piece of art at the end. I always said my most painful spaces for tattoos will probably be dedicated to my most sentimental pieces. I want an emotional connection to the pain I’m about to endure 🖤
Those tattoo shows 100% helped make tattooing into the mega industry it is now. I am around 45% covered in tattoos. Full leg sleeve, both arms sleeved and various tattoos on the head, neck, feet back and hands. I would a million times rather sit and feel less or no pain than to feel the pain. Been there, done that. If you wanna take that pain, you do you. But it does not make you somehow better or superior to those who choose the cream.
Can I ask, why would tattoo artists hate people using numbing cream? Does it make a difference to how the tattoo is made? Can they even tell if the person has used it? Thanks.
numbing cream can change the texture of the skin and make tattooing for the artist more difficult depending on the techniques and design used. Some artists allow it and some don't :)
@@atuvi6 Thanks so much for that, I had no idea. Have my first tattoo coming up and was considering using cream and assumed no-one would know. Seems crazy to risk a tattoo not looking as good as it could so no cream for me then. Cheers again for explaining.👍
Depending on the brand and how it reacts to an individual's skin, it can change the texture and make it difficult and inconsistent to apply ink to. I've also seen it affect the pigments in colour tattoos and even cause severe rashing and burning to skin (even when the client has used the same exact brand before) Personally, I normally tell my clients not to use it for the above reasons, but I know plenty of people who are fine with their clients using it! I'd recommend always asking before considering numbing cream and follow your artist's advice :)
To add on to what Joe and Savamther said, artists often will complain about how it's difficult for clients to sit as the numbing cream wears off, which it will do. Usually a client isn't going to squirm as much if they're mentally prepared for the pain and managing it, whereas the numbing cream will take that away for a while so when it comes back it will be twice as bad and harder to handle.
@@atuvi6 I’m not one of those people that are against numbing cream bc they’re so “tough”, but I do feel your first few at least should be without just so you’ll appreciate them more and understand the pain that goes into “earning” said tattoos. But I’m nobody, I’ll never judge someone for using it. I’m pretty covered and have never used it before, buuuut, I want to lol
At 55 I got my 1st tattoo. Now, 1 year later, I have 5. Only 1 of them hurt like a motherf**ker, (my 1st one), it made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up! 😅 Even though that 1st one hurt that bad, I went back for 4 more. I think I've been lucky that my other tattoos didn't hurt at all. I already have plans for (at least) 3 more. These will be bigger pieces and I fully expect them to hurt, but, I will NOT be using numbing cream. I'm going to get in that chair and take it, like the tough ass, 56 year old, strong woman that I am! 😜
Just playing devil’s advocate here on aftercare-it’s not always the clients fault. Sometimes the artist just sucks and doesn’t know what they’re doing (too deep, traumatize skin, too much bactine, etc) and infection is inevitable regardless of the aftercare regimen. And then as a client if you bring it up to the artist, they instantly blame it on you and aftercare, or lack there of
IDC IF YOU USE NUMBING CREAM just don't LIE when someone ASKS you "did it hurt" you BETTER SAY "No because I used numbing cream!!!!" already caught so many LIARS! own it for life
I've never used anything to dull the pain when getting my tattoos. No drugs, alcohol, cream; nothing. But I'm not into the idea of the pain being the payment to "earn" a tattoo. It puts tattooing on the wrong sort of pedestal and oversells the actual pain. But I do like the pain as a bit of a deterrent, a little pause to think about what one is doing.
Cpl or polarized lens are a really helpful tool for tattoo artist, it helps to capture a picture without the glare and hardly alters the overall look of the picture, if anything it desaturates it a little.
The anesthesia thing is important, because that's why we have doctors only for that, it's no joke. The numbing cream is other thing, some people say that it changes the texture of the skin and this is a problem for the artist, others say that alter the color and it fades more easily. That said, that idea of earning something thru pain is just barbaric, people have that idea theu have to suffer to deserve something, it's just ink, life can be much easier.
Yeah the earn your stripes stuff is just dumb. Anesthesia is no joke and should always be done by medical professionals. But earning tattoo is already done when you earned the money to pay for it. Anything else is just goofy gatekeeping
Generally I fully agree with you, but the comment that a tattoo is not "earned" when you use numbing creme is absolutely rubbish and shows that you are not going with the time. This mindset is not compatible with modern times.
Personally I wouldn’t use numbing cream, the pain is a necessary part of the process of getting a tattoo, but I know people with chronic pain who want tattoos but are afraid of the tattooing setting off their already intense pain, so I don’t really see an issue with others using numbing cream if they find it necessary. Anaesthesia on the other hand shouldn’t be taken lightly, and quite frankly I don’t think it’s worth doing to get a tattoo
I live in chronic pain and because of that my pain tolerance is very high. Never used numbing cream or anything. The pain is a big part of it for me. A cathartic process that helps me move through internal healing.
As a doctor who has worked in anaesthetics, there are different types of anaesthesia. Not all anaesthesia is general anaesthesia which involves intubation. In fact, some types of anaesthetic techniques don't require airway maneuvers at all, conscious sedation being one of them. I recommend you talk to a professional about this rather than making assumptions. Anaesthetic training is very long and hard. Trust me, anaesthetics know what they're doing. They always do a proper pre-operative assessment before even touching the patient.
My tattoo artist asked if I would try out this numbing cream, so I did. It was horrible. Instead of easing into the pain of a tattoo and let you body deal with it, the cream quit after about 30 minutes and all that 30 minutes of pain hit me all at once. I damn near blacked out and was sick for about 15 minutes. I only could take another hour of tattooing after that.
I will say, I was told I would have to be awake for my wisdom teeth (all 4) extraction would have to be awake instead of put under because being a short, young female puts me at risk of dying due to anesthesia complications. I'm no doctor, but I get what he means about someone possibly passing due to complications. As for the earning bit, I dunno haha. Pain tolerance is a spectrum and some can't tolerate as much as others.
I hate long prices; I end up being a pussy after 4-5 hours; sometimes sooner. That’s why I break them up into sections, though. It’s also nice to chat with your artist if you know and trust them.
so wild i was the 600th like on the last one i watched before this and the 1k like on this one lmao i think im gonna take this as a sign that i should start my 2nd tattoo and keep going on my sleeve...i love patch work hehe😄😅
Tattoo artist's only say you have to earn it In the way of Nothing in life is simple or easy.And anything that is beautiful or worth having or doing, most likely requires going through some kind of mental or physical pain and out of the pain becomes the birth of a beautiful thing. They arent meaning it "earn it" in a work or employment or job type of way. open your minds.
Getting inked is my therapy…..the pain itself is a cathartic process that allows deep seated grief and soul pain to leave me. And at the end I get to have a beautiful piece of art forever.
I would think a polarized lens would be quite helpful in getting tattoo photos w/o the glare. The aftercare part of the tattoo has been different for every tattoo and artist I've gone to. It kinda pisses me off. Find a standard for aftercare, and keep it. Jeez. Usually, the aftercare suggested is something the shop is selling. How convenient. Is it any good? Who knows?
from what I've heard the right aftercare can vary depending on the tattoo (colour vs black and grey, fine linework vs heavy blacks etc) but at the same time I see where you're coming from with the shop suggesting something that they're selling, I don't trust that at all. I'm not even sure that I trust that those fancy smancy tattoo balms aren't just a big ripoff. I've never gone wrong with just plain aveeno
it alredy happen in Brazil, if you search "homem morre tatuagem" (something like man dies tattoo in portuguese) you can find it in one of the biggest news site of the country.
Why do you have to "earn" a tattoo? As far as the risks of anesthesia, as long as the procedures are done under a registered anesthesiologist or CRNA the risk or death is extremely low.
gatekeepers it's what keeps Enovation moving slow, but luckily gatekeepers die and time just keeps pushing forward changing everything whether we like it or not.
My artist offered numbing cream after like an 1.5 hrs into my session cause my leg started to involuntarily twitch from the pain. Got another hour or so in before we had to end the session and schedule the 2nd half for a few weeks later. Keeping my leg like that for my biggest tattoo yet was hard!
Welp, in 2021 a guy in Brazil died in a tattoo parlor after the "artist" applied a Lidocaine pomade to his arm, the weirdest thing is, the client didn't even ask for the anesthesia, the tattoer just applied it without even knowing if he wanted it. And even worse, the lidocaine spray was veterinary grade stuff, terrible. And just a few weeks back, i saw a video of a tattoo artist that booked an OR to apply a general anesthesia on his client, while he and 3 other artists finished a Jesus portrait backpiece, this, for me, is the thing Levi70Six talked about "Not earning" the tattoo, the client got a full backpiece of Jesus while under anesthesia dude, talk about celebrating the sacrifice of Jesus by taking the easy out lol. Not even mentioning that his healing process is gonna be wacked dude, how is he gonna deal with the pain of having his WHOLE back pumped full of ink in one session man.
So far I enjoyed the pain,eventhough it started getting nasty at the end of my three-day-session(each 8 hours). The sore feeling after three day sessions was worse than the tattooing itself for me. But I know other body parts are going to be worse. Yer it is part of the process for me
Alot of people saying if it didnt hurt you dont deserve it is weird honestly I'd be pro anaesthesia if it wasnt for the huge risk to damage and death and in my opinion if you arent willing to put up with the pain I doubt you'll be willing to put up with the tattoo in a couple of years and the people doing it to avoid pain from getting 5+ tattoos in one go are ridiculous caring for a tattoo is tedious and so trying to look after that many properly and being aware of all the issues and changes simply isnt possible quite concerning where the industry is going atm.
I respect this dude so much but he’s a major reason why people are intimidated of the tattoo industry. He comes off very “mr I know it all” and he knows best. Tattoos are for everybody anybody and everyone in between. I love tattoos show’s personally. Without them I wouldn’t have a full leg and arm sleeve
I paid a lot for my tattoos. I listened 100% to my artist. I want that tattoo to last and look good. I knew a girl who got a tattoo and then took a bath after. All the ink came out
I don’t think it will be as devastating if someone dies from anesthesia as this guy claims. Everyone knows you can die from under going anesthesia and it is a risk everyone takes when getting surgery. The doctors explain it very clearly and anyone undergoing is clearly informed of the risks. Although it’s uncommon, People die from anesthesia everyday in hospitals and it’s just a risk you have to be willing to take if you do it.
Getting put sleep is a disrespect to the artist imo.Your not getting to know the artist as well as u would awake. Talking to the artist would make it go by faster as well. But main reason is ur not getting the full experience while ur put to sleep. They should reject anyone who wants to be asleep during tattoo
Anesthesia has risks, the benefit of getting tattooed under general anesthesia doesn’t outweigh the risk BUT this you have to earn it and tattoos need to be painful so no numbing cream, is toxic as fu¢k
Personally, I've always been against the idea of "earning" a tattoo-the concept just screams macho bullshit-but I do think you should take in the entire experience to the best of your ability. The pain is part of it, but so is bullshitting with your artist and watching the process, which I think you miss out on under anesthesia.
This was a lovely intervie! I like this feller! I love my tattoos so very much - the pain is an important part of the process. You have to earn every one of them in order to appreciate them.
I give the advice to put numbing cream on ribs or places where they move like a retard. I use cream and I have a lot of tattoos, I don’t want the pain anymore 😂. The other things I really agree with, photoshop is a real thing. Is misleading info and people get f-ed and they blame the artist. But a real person can’t see if it’s photoshopped. I see that but I’m a artist, not the top artist but a good artist.
Going on 30 tattoos now, pain is just the process. I don't think you should take any shortcuts, it's all part of the journey of getting a tattoo. With that being said, if numbing cream is to be used it should be for the most painful areas. For example if your getting Pikachu on your taint.
This concept is so weird to me. The experience (including the pain) is part of the whole thing .x. You sit there and chat with your artist (or in my case you sit and draw) besides, if you're sleeping, you don't get the adrenaline or the endorphins,cmon
i wish i enjoyed the pain! and i consider myself reasonably "kinky" hehe! but i don't, and it would be too much to expect the whole process was part of some kind of BDSM experience that was sexualised- but no tattoo artists should be made to go through something that is difficult enough to do...putting art into/onto skin is exhausting for both artists and client. even though I've only started using numbing creams this last year (after a hiatus of over a decade between tattoos), i find they have limited effectiveness, so at best they might work as a segue from nearly no pain to running out of pain killing chemical till you're feeling the full pain. but i do find it hard to reconcile the fact that, if i went to hospital for an entirely elective cosmetic procedure (a "Nose Job" for instance) i would be offered a ream of pain reducing drugs...but if i want a tattoo i'm told to (culturally) "just deal with it", "suck it up", "be a man" etc etc. surely we've come to a point in history where qualified anesthetists should be working in conjunction with body artist of all types to provide a painless experience where the customer doesn't have to go through such physical trauma. given that is probably already available to the ultra-wealthy, i'm well over this notion that a cosmetic adjustment to the body, (tattooing) is somehow Not as important or considered or Essential as every other form we create for personal issues we may have --ie teeth straightening , symmetry with facial features, Botox everywhere, leg lengthening, breast and penis enhancement -all officially sanctioned by the general medical community (ie everything that isn't tattooing or body piercing) and that will be given great pain-killing drugs, but no. this tradition that pre-dates them all is meant instead to have a near primitive /medieval response when it comes to the resultant pain involved. sure, if you don't want any pain relief when you get inked or pierced, You go for it!...you will find as many artists involved in providing such an art form to your skin, prepared to do that while hopefully doing their best to make this something you will not jump up and run crying from their workplace. but for those of us who enjoy the outcome and NOT the process, an option to not go through the pain would be very welcome. if i could be knocked out for a dozen hours and have several artists/piercers working on my body all at once, i would happily save up the money and absolutely be grateful for that. cos i also know it would be the days after that the soreness would still be there.
6:30 I don't get it when they say you have to earn your tattoo... in the capitalist world they are cosmetic not ritualistic... you shouldn't have to suffer if you want to look good... that's fucking bullshit
I don’t use anything for my tattoos but I also don’t like the old “you have to earn your tattoo” mentality😂 Anesthesia is too dangerous for tattoos and numbing creams have it’s own problems, just hope one day there will really be a way to get tattoos pain free.
Tattoos should be earned. If you just want designs on your skin and you can't take the pain, you're in luck, henna and semi permanent tattoos are entirely painless and widely available.
I disagree. While I agree that anesthesia and numbing cream have disadvantages that don’t make them worth it in the end, if tattoos were painless or at least easier to bear, a lot more people would be getting them. I don’t see the point in taking pride in pain. It’s just a means to an end
It’s just weird that tattoos used to mean something different than they do now and one of the last vestiges of tattoo culture is the shared pain amongst the inked of having suffered for receiving the art.
@@paladin400 It's not "Pride in Pain". It's a shared experience between your fellow man. Not to mention for many cultures it's a right of passage or has significant cultural meaning. If you got your sleeve while you were numb or asleep, we aren't the same. It's the Olympics vs the Special Olympics. If you can't take the pain, you shouldn't get a tattoo.
The whole "Gotta earn the tattoo by feeling the pain" argument is kind of lame really. If someone wants to use numbing cream, sure, why not? Anesthesia though? That is super dangerous.
Only old school artist and people that didn’t get to use numbing cream hate it😂😂 a lot of artist I know say most there clients use it or it doesn’t effect anything. I have used it and it’s been fine and artist had no problem and they healed great
I kind of like the pain of getting tattooed. I'm not a masochist, but something about the pain feels...transformational, is the only way I can put it. It feels like a way to prove to myself that I'm strong. I find it helps me put things in perspective
I agree, the best way I can explain it is like a cleansing... when I get tattooed I'm usually feeling mentally better and sleep easier during the healing process. Don't really know how to explain it aside from it feels calming afterwards
So I take it you’ve never had anything under the t shirt
Same here, it's a relaxing pain. My first Tattoo I was worried, then as soon as the needle touched me I was like owwww in good way. Ppl who cry and twitch are bitches lol
😂 I absolutely hate the pain, it’s the worst thing for me about getting tattoos
@@longjonhothan6963 I thought people who said tattoos hurt were pussies 😂 until I had a chest piece done and something on my side hip to rib 😂 I was thinking about calling it quits almost the entire time 😂😂😂😂 so painful and uncomfortable
I think it would be cool to hear an interview from cultures where tattooing is from, I wanna know what they think of mainstream tattoo culture and all the gimmicks!
Well you're not going to get it here. Inked is a celebrity/model centric platform first and foremost. It's why they still exist while others like Tattoo have gone out of business. This is what people want to see, not traditional work from countries like the Philippines or Indonesia.
The risks regarding anaesthetic make sense, but numbing cream is definitely a useful tool & really isn’t ‘a pain in the arse’ if someone applies it themselves prior.
For example: Someone who lives with a chronic condition/pain may well find numbing cream useful as a way of getting the tattoo/art without more of the pain they suffer daily.
Keep in mind that everyone is different with different circumstances.
I think he isnt referring to the application, but the difference it makes to some people's skin texture (that my be also vary from product to product) and pain tolerance after the effect wears off. I'm not an artist but a client. I met some artist actually encouraging me to use numbing cream on difficult spots (like ribs) and some who didnt want their clients to use it at all. Never did it, but I think if you've discussed it with the artist first, it is a legitimate way to deal with the pain. Especially under the circumstances you described.
Yeah - It’s always best to discuss with your artist first.
Ah the numbing cream debate. I once used it after a 20hr session at a show. I couldn't take it anymore the following day when my artist was touching up yesterdays work. I was coming up off the table! 3 days, about 30hrs total time, brutal.
Where did you get tattooed ? My first 3 tattoos were all fine but when I decided to finish my sleeve and have my artist do it in 3 days for 8 hours a day, I was hurting. I think the skin just doesn’t heal and is super sensitive after all that pain and then going right back into it the next day. I had thought that the arm would be fine but maybe it was just because of the time frame
My tattoo artist put some numbing spray to my skin during covention to help me during the process (big piece on my tigh who go up pretty high) and it help me a lot when she was doing the white. Even if i have high pain tolerance the second day was really hard (my first convention too) so im glad she did that to me 😅
Yeah, what if you had an allergic reaction though? That's precisely why tattoo artist can't use anesthesics. I doubt she had an Epipen handy, and if it would even work on a topic allergy at all. Sometimes it's better to take the pain or book another session, than risking ruining your life, and the artist ruining his career (and emotional health) cause someone died on him.
@@matheusbravo3758it was probably bactine, which has lidocaine. Most people know if they are allergic to that or not. You don't even know if the artist asked about their allergies first or not, you're just making a bunch of assumptions. Anyone can get bactine over the counter lol, it's not a big deal.
@@ashdragon4000 That's why i Said "What If?", It is an assumption, obviously. It's not a big deal, until It is Man.
I completely agree about photos being manipulated and posted. It is a huge problem and people get unrealistic expectations.
It’s less invasive than dental surgery and less invasive than cosmetic surgery. Some people who have hundreds of hours under the needle just either want a different experience, or don’t need to go through the pain. We all have our reasons.
I was just coming to comment about his last bit about more artist getting recognition and how you always give a shout-out to a different artist every week for your viewers to check out. Keep up the great work you do and I wish I could get tattooed by you someday.
The pain will still be there when you wake up and it will still hurt more when the cream wears off or the cream gets into shit them your more likely to get a adverse reaction and conflicts with the ink colors or something. There's always a complication or a downside
For me the best part about getting a tattoo in a excruciatingly painful place is knowing you won’t have to get that place tattooed again
I hate how much reasonable logic is behind this, largely because know I'm more inclined to get ink in areas I was otherwise going to not because I'm not great when it comes to pain.
That's EXACTLY what i thought when i got my first tattoo done, big elbow piece, then i did the second elbow, then my hands, then my throat lol. I'm going through them quick so when i finally get around to my sleeve, it's gonna be a walk in the park hahahaha
Until you decide to get it blacked out
I agree with almost everything he said, especially the anesthesia part, but the old head mentality of having to "earn" a tattoo is so foolish. Who cares if people numb or not, im covered and i wish i would have used numbing lol.
My tattoo artist asked if I would try out this numbing cream, so I did. It was horrible. Instead of easing into the pain of a tattoo and let you body deal with it, the cream quit after about 30 minutes and all that 30 minutes of pain hit me all at once. I damn near blacked out and was sick for about 15 minutes. I only could take another hour of tattooing after that.
My first tattoo took 3 hours and for the most part it was just irritating… not painful… there were some spots that I literally almost jumped off the table because of the quick zap of extreme pain but instead told my artist give me just a minute… took some deep breaths and got back into the zone because the zap surprised me more than what was already done…
I agree with letting the body experience the slow buildup without the numbing cream… I’ve had friends use it for long scheduled sessions and after an hour or so it’s worn off and they get that hit of pain… and can’t go much longer and tap out less than halfway… but I’ve been with them for 6 hour sessions without cream and they sat just fine.
Love this, as a tattooer this is a lot of what my mentor taught me. Respect ✊
I was one of the people who wanted to be numbed after i got my first tattoo. I wasn't able to on my second but i went to somebody else, got something a lot bigger with more detail and it didn't hurt at all, almost tickled. Truly just believe it was the first artist being super heavy handed.
Thank god you guys made this video!! I don’t know who needs to hear this but this man is spitting cold hard facts!!
I feel like the Art is the reward and the pain is the journey. You go through some pain but wind up with a beautiful piece of art at the end. I always said my most painful spaces for tattoos will probably be dedicated to my most sentimental pieces. I want an emotional connection to the pain I’m about to endure 🖤
I quite enjoyed the pain of getting tattooed. My last two tattoos were ten hours each And those were just the first sessions.
I too enjoy the pain. It's weirdly relaxing. I don't know hope to explain it but I feels like I'm really connecting with my body.
I used tkx numbing cream on my throat and it was great, my tattoo and the artist who done it are amazing.
Which one of theirs did you use? I have a tube of gold not used yet
@Puffnbreak black, it was amazing. The tattoo artist loved it too she actually stocks it now.
Those tattoo shows 100% helped make tattooing into the mega industry it is now. I am around 45% covered in tattoos. Full leg sleeve, both arms sleeved and various tattoos on the head, neck, feet back and hands. I would a million times rather sit and feel less or no pain than to feel the pain. Been there, done that. If you wanna take that pain, you do you. But it does not make you somehow better or superior to those who choose the cream.
Can I ask, why would tattoo artists hate people using numbing cream? Does it make a difference to how the tattoo is made? Can they even tell if the person has used it? Thanks.
numbing cream can change the texture of the skin and make tattooing for the artist more difficult depending on the techniques and design used. Some artists allow it and some don't :)
@@atuvi6 Thanks so much for that, I had no idea. Have my first tattoo coming up and was considering using cream and assumed no-one would know. Seems crazy to risk a tattoo not looking as good as it could so no cream for me then. Cheers again for explaining.👍
Depending on the brand and how it reacts to an individual's skin, it can change the texture and make it difficult and inconsistent to apply ink to. I've also seen it affect the pigments in colour tattoos and even cause severe rashing and burning to skin (even when the client has used the same exact brand before)
Personally, I normally tell my clients not to use it for the above reasons, but I know plenty of people who are fine with their clients using it! I'd recommend always asking before considering numbing cream and follow your artist's advice :)
To add on to what Joe and Savamther said, artists often will complain about how it's difficult for clients to sit as the numbing cream wears off, which it will do. Usually a client isn't going to squirm as much if they're mentally prepared for the pain and managing it, whereas the numbing cream will take that away for a while so when it comes back it will be twice as bad and harder to handle.
@@atuvi6 I’m not one of those people that are against numbing cream bc they’re so “tough”, but I do feel your first few at least should be without just so you’ll appreciate them more and understand the pain that goes into “earning” said tattoos. But I’m nobody, I’ll never judge someone for using it. I’m pretty covered and have never used it before, buuuut, I want to lol
Im prone to passing out or having seizures from extreme or prolonged pain, I'm gonna stick to numbing cream for some of my tattoos
Being under the gas for a hour in a fully operational hospital is dangerous, so going under for a tattoo is suicide.
At 55 I got my 1st tattoo. Now, 1 year later, I have 5. Only 1 of them hurt like a motherf**ker, (my 1st one), it made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up! 😅 Even though that 1st one hurt that bad, I went back for 4 more. I think I've been lucky that my other tattoos didn't hurt at all. I already have plans for (at least) 3 more. These will be bigger pieces and I fully expect them to hurt, but, I will NOT be using numbing cream. I'm going to get in that chair and take it, like the tough ass, 56 year old, strong woman that I am! 😜
Really excellent and grounded point of view. As a tattoo collector, I really agree with Levi.
Agreed. It also defeats the purpose of the ritual. Dealing with the pain Is a huge part of it
Just playing devil’s advocate here on aftercare-it’s not always the clients fault. Sometimes the artist just sucks and doesn’t know what they’re doing (too deep, traumatize skin, too much bactine, etc) and infection is inevitable regardless of the aftercare regimen. And then as a client if you bring it up to the artist, they instantly blame it on you and aftercare, or lack there of
IDC IF YOU USE NUMBING CREAM just don't LIE when someone ASKS you "did it hurt" you BETTER SAY "No because I used numbing cream!!!!" already caught so many LIARS! own it for life
He says TV shows don’t depict the tattoo industry correctly, notice how he didn’t mention Inkmaster. 😂
I've never used anything to dull the pain when getting my tattoos. No drugs, alcohol, cream; nothing. But I'm not into the idea of the pain being the payment to "earn" a tattoo. It puts tattooing on the wrong sort of pedestal and oversells the actual pain.
But I do like the pain as a bit of a deterrent, a little pause to think about what one is doing.
Cpl or polarized lens are a really helpful tool for tattoo artist, it helps to capture a picture without the glare and hardly alters the overall look of the picture, if anything it desaturates it a little.
The anesthesia thing is important, because that's why we have doctors only for that, it's no joke. The numbing cream is other thing, some people say that it changes the texture of the skin and this is a problem for the artist, others say that alter the color and it fades more easily. That said, that idea of earning something thru pain is just barbaric, people have that idea theu have to suffer to deserve something, it's just ink, life can be much easier.
Yeah the earn your stripes stuff is just dumb. Anesthesia is no joke and should always be done by medical professionals. But earning tattoo is already done when you earned the money to pay for it. Anything else is just goofy gatekeeping
Generally I fully agree with you, but the comment that a tattoo is not "earned" when you use numbing creme is absolutely rubbish and shows that you are not going with the time. This mindset is not compatible with modern times.
Personally I wouldn’t use numbing cream, the pain is a necessary part of the process of getting a tattoo, but I know people with chronic pain who want tattoos but are afraid of the tattooing setting off their already intense pain, so I don’t really see an issue with others using numbing cream if they find it necessary. Anaesthesia on the other hand shouldn’t be taken lightly, and quite frankly I don’t think it’s worth doing to get a tattoo
I live in chronic pain and because of that my pain tolerance is very high. Never used numbing cream or anything. The pain is a big part of it for me. A cathartic process that helps me move through internal healing.
As a doctor who has worked in anaesthetics, there are different types of anaesthesia. Not all anaesthesia is general anaesthesia which involves intubation. In fact, some types of anaesthetic techniques don't require airway maneuvers at all, conscious sedation being one of them. I recommend you talk to a professional about this rather than making assumptions. Anaesthetic training is very long and hard. Trust me, anaesthetics know what they're doing. They always do a proper pre-operative assessment before even touching the patient.
My tattoo artist asked if I would try out this numbing cream, so I did. It was horrible. Instead of easing into the pain of a tattoo and let you body deal with it, the cream quit after about 30 minutes and all that 30 minutes of pain hit me all at once. I damn near blacked out and was sick for about 15 minutes. I only could take another hour of tattooing after that.
Im pretty sure they dont even know exactly how anesthesia works, plus everybody is different n thats usually the deadliest part of getting surgery
I will say, I was told I would have to be awake for my wisdom teeth (all 4) extraction would have to be awake instead of put under because being a short, young female puts me at risk of dying due to anesthesia complications. I'm no doctor, but I get what he means about someone possibly passing due to complications. As for the earning bit, I dunno haha. Pain tolerance is a spectrum and some can't tolerate as much as others.
All I have to say is “AMEN!”👏🏽
I hate long prices; I end up being a pussy after 4-5 hours; sometimes sooner. That’s why I break them up into sections, though. It’s also nice to chat with your artist if you know and trust them.
so wild i was the 600th like on the last one i watched before this and the 1k like on this one lmao i think im gonna take this as a sign that i should start my 2nd tattoo and keep going on my sleeve...i love patch work hehe😄😅
Tattoo artist's only say you have to earn it In the way of Nothing in life is simple or easy.And anything that is beautiful or worth having or doing, most likely requires going through some kind of mental or physical pain and out of the pain becomes the birth of a beautiful thing.
They arent meaning it "earn it" in a work or employment or job type of way.
open your minds.
Getting inked is my therapy…..the pain itself is a cathartic process that allows deep seated grief and soul pain to leave me. And at the end I get to have a beautiful piece of art forever.
I would think a polarized lens would be quite helpful in getting tattoo photos w/o the glare. The aftercare part of the tattoo has been different for every tattoo and artist I've gone to. It kinda pisses me off. Find a standard for aftercare, and keep it. Jeez. Usually, the aftercare suggested is something the shop is selling. How convenient. Is it any good? Who knows?
from what I've heard the right aftercare can vary depending on the tattoo (colour vs black and grey, fine linework vs heavy blacks etc) but at the same time I see where you're coming from with the shop suggesting something that they're selling, I don't trust that at all. I'm not even sure that I trust that those fancy smancy tattoo balms aren't just a big ripoff. I've never gone wrong with just plain aveeno
@@bogwife7942 Yeah, I use Aveeno, too. Works like a charm!
Numbing cream is one thing, being put under is unconscionable
it alredy happen in Brazil, if you search "homem morre tatuagem" (something like man dies tattoo in portuguese) you can find it in one of the biggest news site of the country.
Why do you have to "earn" a tattoo? As far as the risks of anesthesia, as long as the procedures are done under a registered anesthesiologist or CRNA the risk or death is extremely low.
gatekeepers it's what keeps Enovation moving slow, but luckily gatekeepers die and time just keeps pushing forward changing everything whether we like it or not.
My artist offered numbing cream after like an 1.5 hrs into my session cause my leg started to involuntarily twitch from the pain. Got another hour or so in before we had to end the session and schedule the 2nd half for a few weeks later. Keeping my leg like that for my biggest tattoo yet was hard!
Welp, in 2021 a guy in Brazil died in a tattoo parlor after the "artist" applied a Lidocaine pomade to his arm, the weirdest thing is, the client didn't even ask for the anesthesia, the tattoer just applied it without even knowing if he wanted it. And even worse, the lidocaine spray was veterinary grade stuff, terrible. And just a few weeks back, i saw a video of a tattoo artist that booked an OR to apply a general anesthesia on his client, while he and 3 other artists finished a Jesus portrait backpiece, this, for me, is the thing Levi70Six talked about "Not earning" the tattoo, the client got a full backpiece of Jesus while under anesthesia dude, talk about celebrating the sacrifice of Jesus by taking the easy out lol. Not even mentioning that his healing process is gonna be wacked dude, how is he gonna deal with the pain of having his WHOLE back pumped full of ink in one session man.
My names Levi too!
Shiiiii i might just tattoo my hairline as well
So far I enjoyed the pain,eventhough it started getting nasty at the end of my three-day-session(each 8 hours). The sore feeling after three day sessions was worse than the tattooing itself for me. But I know other body parts are going to be worse. Yer it is part of the process for me
I like his honesty ,
Alot of people saying if it didnt hurt you dont deserve it is weird honestly I'd be pro anaesthesia if it wasnt for the huge risk to damage and death and in my opinion if you arent willing to put up with the pain I doubt you'll be willing to put up with the tattoo in a couple of years and the people doing it to avoid pain from getting 5+ tattoos in one go are ridiculous caring for a tattoo is tedious and so trying to look after that many properly and being aware of all the issues and changes simply isnt possible quite concerning where the industry is going atm.
If youre being put to sleep for a tattoo then you don't deserve it
Agreed
Taking away the experience.
It little sounds, like going to dentist, and repair teeth without pain killers.
But pain still will be after sleeping
@@menorex I think I read that wrong. Are you saying that even if you are put under anesthesia, you will still wake up and be in pain?
Same goes for elective surgery
No pain to gain
I respect this dude so much but he’s a major reason why people are intimidated of the tattoo industry. He comes off very “mr I know it all” and he knows best. Tattoos are for everybody anybody and everyone in between. I love tattoos show’s personally. Without them I wouldn’t have a full leg and arm sleeve
I paid a lot for my tattoos. I listened 100% to my artist. I want that tattoo to last and look good.
I knew a girl who got a tattoo and then took a bath after. All the ink came out
I don’t think it will be as devastating if someone dies from anesthesia as this guy claims. Everyone knows you can die from under going anesthesia and it is a risk everyone takes when getting surgery. The doctors explain it very clearly and anyone undergoing is clearly informed of the risks. Although it’s uncommon, People die from anesthesia everyday in hospitals and it’s just a risk you have to be willing to take if you do it.
Getting put sleep is a disrespect to the artist imo.Your not getting to know the artist as well as u would awake. Talking to the artist would make it go by faster as well. But main reason is ur not getting the full experience while ur put to sleep. They should reject anyone who wants to be asleep during tattoo
💯 agree 👊🏻
Anesthesia has risks, the benefit of getting tattooed under general anesthesia doesn’t outweigh the risk BUT this you have to earn it and tattoos need to be painful so no numbing cream, is toxic as fu¢k
Personally, I've always been against the idea of "earning" a tattoo-the concept just screams macho bullshit-but I do think you should take in the entire experience to the best of your ability. The pain is part of it, but so is bullshitting with your artist and watching the process, which I think you miss out on under anesthesia.
@@inked Exactly! I've had better therapy with my artist than any shrink!!
Why do brits hate pronouncing the letter T in the middle of a word?
I respect his gangsta. To numb or be put under just get tattooed Is missing out on the journey
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I don’t think I’ve even seen someone with a singular gauge
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This was a lovely intervie! I like this feller! I love my tattoos so very much - the pain is an important part of the process. You have to earn every one of them in order to appreciate them.
I give the advice to put numbing cream on ribs or places where they move like a retard.
I use cream and I have a lot of tattoos, I don’t want the pain anymore 😂.
The other things I really agree with, photoshop is a real thing. Is misleading info and people get f-ed and they blame the artist. But a real person can’t see if it’s photoshopped. I see that but I’m a artist, not the top artist but a good artist.
Going on 30 tattoos now, pain is just the process. I don't think you should take any shortcuts, it's all part of the journey of getting a tattoo. With that being said, if numbing cream is to be used it should be for the most painful areas. For example if your getting Pikachu on your taint.
Tattoos arent for everyone unfortunately. 😮
This concept is so weird to me. The experience (including the pain) is part of the whole thing .x. You sit there and chat with your artist (or in my case you sit and draw) besides, if you're sleeping, you don't get the adrenaline or the endorphins,cmon
i wish i enjoyed the pain! and i consider myself reasonably "kinky" hehe! but i don't, and it would be too much to expect the whole process was part of some kind of BDSM experience that was sexualised- but no tattoo artists should be made to go through something that is difficult enough to do...putting art into/onto skin is exhausting for both artists and client. even though I've only started using numbing creams this last year (after a hiatus of over a decade between tattoos), i find they have limited effectiveness, so at best they might work as a segue from nearly no pain to running out of pain killing chemical till you're feeling the full pain. but i do find it hard to reconcile the fact that, if i went to hospital for an entirely elective cosmetic procedure (a "Nose Job" for instance) i would be offered a ream of pain reducing drugs...but if i want a tattoo i'm told to (culturally) "just deal with it", "suck it up", "be a man" etc etc. surely we've come to a point in history where qualified anesthetists should be working in conjunction with body artist of all types to provide a painless experience where the customer doesn't have to go through such physical trauma. given that is probably already available to the ultra-wealthy, i'm well over this notion that a cosmetic adjustment to the body, (tattooing) is somehow Not as important or considered or Essential as every other form we create for personal issues we may have --ie teeth straightening , symmetry with facial features, Botox everywhere, leg lengthening, breast and penis enhancement -all officially sanctioned by the general medical community (ie everything that isn't tattooing or body piercing) and that will be given great pain-killing drugs, but no. this tradition that pre-dates them all is meant instead to have a near primitive /medieval response when it comes to the resultant pain involved. sure, if you don't want any pain relief when you get inked or pierced, You go for it!...you will find as many artists involved in providing such an art form to your skin, prepared to do that while hopefully doing their best to make this something you will not jump up and run crying from their workplace. but for those of us who enjoy the outcome and NOT the process, an option to not go through the pain would be very welcome. if i could be knocked out for a dozen hours and have several artists/piercers working on my body all at once, i would happily save up the money and absolutely be grateful for that. cos i also know it would be the days after that the soreness would still be there.
I wish it hurt more! Too many people with tattoos now a days!
Childbirth hurts a lot. Yet there are too many women with kids.
I see people reacting getting 10hours+ tattoos damn after 4hours I'm just done man. Not that strong I guess...
I'd love to get tattooed under anesthesia. 😂 The pain sucks. It looking cool is the only reason I have so many. 😂
6:30 I don't get it when they say you have to earn your tattoo... in the capitalist world they are cosmetic not ritualistic... you shouldn't have to suffer if you want to look good... that's fucking bullshit
it is ritualistic for some people though. some people find the process really meaningful
I don’t use anything for my tattoos but I also don’t like the old “you have to earn your tattoo” mentality😂 Anesthesia is too dangerous for tattoos and numbing creams have it’s own problems, just hope one day there will really be a way to get tattoos pain free.
Tattoos should be earned. If you just want designs on your skin and you can't take the pain, you're in luck, henna and semi permanent tattoos are entirely painless and widely available.
Imagine gatekeeping art lmaoo
@@illujion6516 they aren’t wrong tho 😂😂😂😂
I disagree. While I agree that anesthesia and numbing cream have disadvantages that don’t make them worth it in the end, if tattoos were painless or at least easier to bear, a lot more people would be getting them. I don’t see the point in taking pride in pain. It’s just a means to an end
It’s just weird that tattoos used to mean something different than they do now and one of the last vestiges of tattoo culture is the shared pain amongst the inked of having suffered for receiving the art.
@@paladin400 It's not "Pride in Pain". It's a shared experience between your fellow man. Not to mention for many cultures it's a right of passage or has significant cultural meaning. If you got your sleeve while you were numb or asleep, we aren't the same. It's the Olympics vs the Special Olympics. If you can't take the pain, you shouldn't get a tattoo.
Such B.S. lol you know every tattoo artist on instagram uses the filters to edit and post their tattoo shots... ALL of them do it..YUP..haha
The whole "Gotta earn the tattoo by feeling the pain" argument is kind of lame really. If someone wants to use numbing cream, sure, why not? Anesthesia though? That is super dangerous.
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Finally some good informative video 🙌🏽
I'll never understand all this "earn a Tattoo" anyone can get Tatted where and how they like. I'm Tatted but i'm not part of no community lol
Only old school artist and people that didn’t get to use numbing cream hate it😂😂 a lot of artist I know say most there clients use it or it doesn’t effect anything. I have used it and it’s been fine and artist had no problem and they healed great