Ruger American Rimfire vs Savage MKII FV-SR: Design & Features Comparison

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  • Опубліковано 13 гру 2024

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  • @monomariodog
    @monomariodog 7 років тому +10

    I been fond of the savage lately, but the ruger flush mag sells it for me

  • @MichaelBellmbell556
    @MichaelBellmbell556  9 років тому +2

    If the weather holds out I plan to take the RAR and Savage FV-SR out to Bullet Creek tomorrow for a side-by-side function comparison. On the agenda is: 1) Trigger-smoothness , creep, break etc. 2) Muzzle velocity 3) Accuracy at 25 yds - have put identical scopes on both 4) Suppression using same suppressor- will look an sound and point-of-impact changes. Is there any other aspect of function you can think of that you want me to check out?? Let me know.

  • @rxmanhdc
    @rxmanhdc 9 років тому +5

    I own the Savage. Golf balls at 50 yards is too easy. I agree with your assessment about the finish on the FV-SR. The Ruger looks to be of higher build quality. I await your shooting test.

  • @pik745
    @pik745 8 років тому +8

    Awesome job on both these videos Michael. Very thorough and informative. My luck that you're reviewing the very rifles I'm interested in. Can't tell you how much I appreciate people like yourself, going to considerable effort to share your passion, and views to those of us with similar interests.
    Looking forward to the rest of your videos....looks like you've been busy enjoying your retirement.

    • @MichaelBellmbell556
      @MichaelBellmbell556  8 років тому

      +DJ Pickering Thanks for your comments. I am having fun and staying busy !

  • @intj2948
    @intj2948 3 роки тому +4

    As someone has already pointed out, the Savage Mark II F has factory iron sights. You also have the option to put on a scope. I bought one for $150 at Walmart. I also learned that the butt of the rifle can be unscrewed to add survival materials. I am hitting small targets at 50 yards right out of the box. For only $150 I feel every penny was well spent on the Savage.

    • @MichaelBellmbell556
      @MichaelBellmbell556  3 роки тому +2

      A great value!

    • @robertwatson818
      @robertwatson818 2 роки тому +1

      I have an early MKII FV--SR. It shoots the same tight groups as those $4000 .22 target rifles and this infuriates folks at the range!

  • @pnotuner1
    @pnotuner1 6 років тому +2

    I researched about what bolt action rifle to buy and I liked the finish of the Ruger American Rimfire. So I bought the Ruger American Rimfire with the 22 inch barrel. Shortly afterward I found a basic Savage Mark ii at the pawnshop and bought it too. I'm nothing short of disappointed with the Ruger as the Savage is much more accurate.
    Maybe the 18 inch Ruger is the way to go but the 22 inch doesn't get it done.

    • @MichaelBellmbell556
      @MichaelBellmbell556  6 років тому

      I generally like the 16-18" barrel lengths for 22LR but I am not a bench rest shooter.

  • @AvroBellow
    @AvroBellow 5 років тому +1

    Canada (Savage Mk.II) vs. USA (Ruger American Rimfire) gun comparison. This is a really nice video. Looking at the Ruger, I think that a better match for it would be the Savage Mk.II FSS because it has iron sights. The FV-SR was made specifically to be used with a scope which is why it doesn't have iron sights.

    • @MichaelBellmbell556
      @MichaelBellmbell556  5 років тому

      Thanks for watching. I have a MKII FSS I could use for a comparison.

  • @xtratabasco1
    @xtratabasco1 7 років тому +1

    just fyi...the ruger is 320 out the door, got an email, the savage is 149 with rebate....still the ruger is better value and your video confirmed it.

  • @chrisb45577
    @chrisb45577 7 років тому +1

    I just bought a Savage Mark II, but mine is the basic model: tapered barrel, iron sights. Otherwise the same: free-floating barrel, same bolt, 10 round mag, synthetic stock, sling pegs and tapped for an optic rail--about $180.00.

    • @chrisb45577
      @chrisb45577 7 років тому

      Oops. The bolt on my Mark II is not like his, it has the round knob he refers to as tactical style, like his Ruger.

    • @chrisb45577
      @chrisb45577 7 років тому

      Also, the basic model I have has a 20" barrel that is not threaded. Shoots a fist size group at 50 yards with the stock open sights. 60-year-old eyes, so I want to try a compact optic--any thoughts?

    • @chrisb45577
      @chrisb45577 7 років тому

      OK, so it's the Ruger style bolt handle that's tactical. My Mark II has a traditional looking round knob.

    • @MichaelBellmbell556
      @MichaelBellmbell556  7 років тому

      The Savage I have has the larger handle. I also have 60 year old eyes. The Savage FV-SR Mark 2 has a shorter threaded (suppressor ready) barrel. I can't see putting a top dollar scope on a low end rifle. I start with Simmons 22 MAG scopes on this type of rifle. about $35-40. Get better rings than come with the scope and you should be fine. If you are going to use the rifle for serious work then invest in better glass.

  • @hiltonmcconnell2563
    @hiltonmcconnell2563 2 роки тому

    Savage dose make some with sights, I have the Mark II FVT comes with a great set of peep sights. One thing I love about Savage you can pick what you want, sights, no sights, or a good set of peep sights. I also have the Mark II TR Just had it you yesterday and shot 4 - 5 round groups that can be completely covered with a dime, 3/8" center to center and the other 2 just a bit of the edge of the holes peeking pas the dime. That is at 25 yards. have to clean up my range to get back to 50 and 65 yards.

  • @cadamsm11
    @cadamsm11 3 роки тому +1

    I enjoyed this video, although it’s somewhat dated now. I have a newer Savage .17hmr, which has the flush mag, better finish, and improved stock. Looks like Savage took note of Ruger’s advantages...and it’s a tack-driver with a BSM Sweet 17 scope. I hope to now find a Ruger American in left-hand.

  • @MichaelBellmbell556
    @MichaelBellmbell556  5 років тому

    I have eliminated adds on my UA-cam channel. I am taking the fate of my channel out of the hands of UA-cam and putting it into the hands of my viewers. If you like what you see please consider supporting my channel by making a small pledge on my Patreon page at www.patreon.com/mbell556

  • @regsparkes6507
    @regsparkes6507 9 років тому +2

    this is one of the best and informative rifle reviews I haver had the pleasure to watch. I am in the market for another .22 lr rifle, and my primary use will be "serious plinking" and some target shooting too.
    I already own a Ruger American Rimfire, and it is a GOOD rifle,...now I want a Savage
    This review has helped my buying decision..

    • @MichaelBellmbell556
      @MichaelBellmbell556  9 років тому +1

      Reg Sparkes Thanks. Please feel free to share the video and check out our other videos.

    • @Pressingontoperfection
      @Pressingontoperfection 4 роки тому

      Which gun was better Reg

    • @regsparkes6507
      @regsparkes6507 4 роки тому +2

      @@Pressingontoperfection
      Well Ryan, as they are both .22 caliber rifles, and as you are no doubt, aware, a rifle is only as good as the ammunition used in it,...well almost ( :) )
      I like them both, and honestly, I enjoy shooting with both of them,... if you 'push' me for an answer, I'd have to give the edge to my Savage for accuracy.

    • @Pressingontoperfection
      @Pressingontoperfection 4 роки тому

      Thanks reg I'm trying to decide and I've racked my brain for days over this haha.
      When I was feeling out the savage mark 2 fv sr it seemed like the bolt was sticking. . .

    • @regsparkes6507
      @regsparkes6507 4 роки тому +1

      @@Pressingontoperfection
      Is the bolt 'sticking' as it's moved to close and open? If so have you thought of trying a small bit of valve lapping compound, fine grade, on the bolt body,...polish it on it's full length then use a good grade synthetic gun lubricant. If the 'stickiness' still persists then use the same fine compound on the slide area; be sure to use a good cleaner after using the compound and maybe use a genuine Q-Tip to apply that good quality gun lubricant.( cheap 'Q-Tip' knock off brands may tend to leave it's cotton wool fibers in and on the bolt etc.)
      It did work for me,...I do hope it helps you too.
      Cheers!

  • @hiltonmcconnell2563
    @hiltonmcconnell2563 2 роки тому

    again you can get a rotary magazine in the Savage A22 and the B22 bough great rifles and again have a very large choice in how you want them to come. My Mark II all have 21" barrels. plus the Savage rotary magazine in the savage holds 10 rounds, think the Ruger only holds 9 also all my Savages have free floating barrels. never had to do any thing to make them free floating, I also like the flat finish on the Savage, don't need something glairing in the sun, though that was a nice touch Savage gave it.

  • @daverodkey
    @daverodkey 6 років тому +1

    Heavy barrel vs standard barrel. Maybe take the Ruger American Rimfire Target.

  • @jimdent351
    @jimdent351 4 роки тому +1

    Which one do you find to be more accurate? I went with the Ruger because I liked the finish a little more, and the flush mounting magazine. I've often wondered if I sacrificed accuracy for the preferences I chose.

    • @MichaelBellmbell556
      @MichaelBellmbell556  4 роки тому

      I did a field comparison here ua-cam.com/video/kLNC2TVFMxk/v-deo.html
      Bottom line both are similar and I thin the best thing to do is try several different 22lr ammo loads until you find the one your rifle shoots the best with. You will probably be surprised at how different the accuracy is between different rounds. Find what shoots best in your rifle and stick with that.

    • @jimdent351
      @jimdent351 4 роки тому

      @@MichaelBellmbell556 Yes, I found your comparison video after I posted this. It was very thoroughly put together. Thank you for that.

  • @chrism1190
    @chrism1190 8 років тому +5

    I love the Savage but wish they'd had incorporated a front iron sight.

    • @AvroBellow
      @AvroBellow 5 років тому

      The Savage Mk.II FSS is the gun you're looking for.

    • @dlieneck
      @dlieneck 5 років тому

      What about the FVT that comes with the peep sight?

    • @intj2948
      @intj2948 3 роки тому

      I own the Savage Mk 2. It has front iron sights.

  • @tw8e60
    @tw8e60 9 років тому +3

    Great video!
    Professional and unbiased.

    • @MichaelBellmbell556
      @MichaelBellmbell556  9 років тому

      tw8e60 Thanks! Please feel free to share with friends and check out our other videos. We are new at this but have a lot of topics we will cover. Should have 1 or 2 new videos done by the end of next week.

  • @whgiesecke2295
    @whgiesecke2295 4 роки тому

    I realize that it's been 5 years since you published this, but there are a couple of things that I would like to say. First is that the Ruger trigger pull is adjustable from 3 to 5 pounds. If a lighter trigger pull is desired, you can easily take the trigger spring out an replace it with a much lighter spring. I did that with my RAR, and it is now set at a 2 pound trigger pull. I could adjust it down more than that, but I thought 2 pounds was a good weight for trigger pull. Also, Ruger does have a model that has a tactical bolt handle and a little heavier barrel.

    • @MichaelBellmbell556
      @MichaelBellmbell556  4 роки тому

      Yes it is adjustable and Ruger has come out with tactical models since I made this video. Thanks for watching!

  • @Pro2AGuy
    @Pro2AGuy 7 років тому

    Video is 'American Rifleman' worthy--Great job Sir.
    *Happy Holidays*

  • @hildtonmcconnell5626
    @hildtonmcconnell5626 7 років тому +1

    try getting closer matches savage has lots with sights , if you want scope try the savage Mark ll TR it has a 22" heavy barrel and puts 5 shot groups in side a dime at 60 Yd with bulk amo.
    I love this gun and going to try to get a savage mark ll FVT it comes with peep sights and a heavy barrel
    You should try these guns and do a video on them I think you will be very happy with them.

  • @hiltonmcconnell2563
    @hiltonmcconnell2563 2 роки тому

    did like the video but wish you would compare apples to apples, the Savage can come with every thing the Ruger has I did go with the TR for a bench scoped rifle as that stock fits me like a glove can pick it up with my eyes closed and open my eyes and the scope is lined up. Have the A22 but looking at the Savage B22 But in 22WMR have the 93 F in the 22WMR and it is a tack driver as are my Mark II's I really like the Savage rotary magazines Like the sock on the B22 Magnum precision but only a 18" barrel the B22 Magnum FV 22 WMR also has a nice stock and a 21" barrel, but not adjustable I also like the heavy barrel on the FV22. Savage has come a long way in the last 5 or so years. Had to go and get another gun safe, to make room, but now I am 73 and most likely not to get out hunting could sell some of my hunting rifles and just stick to target and of cores the 44 mag and the 444 marlin great fun to shoot. I also found that I like the long and heavy barrels, just feel better even when shooting off hand. Would like to see the video on the range with those 2 rifles. would be interesting to watch. hope you use some CCI Standard Velocity that shoots great in all my .22 bold action rifles.

  • @jonathandavenport2500
    @jonathandavenport2500 8 років тому

    Great video this has been very helpful to me, as I am considering purchasing a 22 and looking at the different brands and models.

  • @jdmbraceyourself695
    @jdmbraceyourself695 2 роки тому

    I'm going with the Savage

    • @MichaelBellmbell556
      @MichaelBellmbell556  2 роки тому +1

      I really like my savage. Going to be going after some Nutria this fall with it and a suppressor.

  • @willilegrand1039
    @willilegrand1039 7 років тому

    Excellent! Michael, can the Savage be dry fired without peening the breech face like the Ruger can?

  • @RollingAroundwNicknAmanda
    @RollingAroundwNicknAmanda 7 років тому

    Great video thank you. I'd like to see a ruger american rimfire target for comparison to the two

    • @MichaelBellmbell556
      @MichaelBellmbell556  7 років тому

      Here is the field test.......ua-cam.com/users/edit?o=U&video_id=kLNC2TVFMxk
      Please feel free free to spend some time on my channel. 120 videos and growing.

    • @RollingAroundwNicknAmanda
      @RollingAroundwNicknAmanda 7 років тому

      weird. That link sends me to my videos. But I meant the target model ruger american

  • @willbeattie7706
    @willbeattie7706 9 років тому

    Looking forward to the functional review. Accuracy will be a big one. The "feeling" of the trigger between the two. Both can have same specs but smoothness, creep, break, etc can be totally different. Curious to see how velocity will change due to barrel length and what that does to the db level when suppressed. Can't wait!

    • @MichaelBellmbell556
      @MichaelBellmbell556  9 років тому

      will beattie I'll address all of those issues. Any other thoughts? It looks like rain Thursday and Friday. I was hoping to get out Friday and do the follow up. It may be Saturday. If so I will try to edit and post by Saturday PM.

    • @willbeattie7706
      @willbeattie7706 9 років тому

      Thank yo. I will look forward to the sequel.

    • @MichaelBellmbell556
      @MichaelBellmbell556  9 років тому

      will beattie ua-cam.com/video/kLNC2TVFMxk/v-deo.html

  • @saroopsinghbhatibarkheda240
    @saroopsinghbhatibarkheda240 4 роки тому

    BRNO ki 22 bore rifle AVN 12 bore Banduk ki प्राइस बताने की कृपा करें तो आपकी अति कृपा होगी धन्यवाद

  • @ckeister74
    @ckeister74 6 місяців тому

    Hammer forging is not how a barrel is rifled hammer forging increases hardness. They're both button rifled.

  • @damienmousso6938
    @damienmousso6938 8 років тому

    is that an air stripper on the savage and what is the name of it?

  • @nephisilver3051
    @nephisilver3051 4 роки тому

    If that Ruger comes in a 22 magnum I'm probably going to buy one.

  • @r.magsano928
    @r.magsano928 9 років тому

    Thanks for the review. Can you please tell us the model no. Of the Ruger.. I can't find it anywhere... I want this specific model with threade barrel and iron sights... thanks

  • @MusicMath123
    @MusicMath123 9 років тому +1

    You are talking a lot about iron sights but that is strange because in this case you should compare Savage Mark II F which has iron sights. Tnx for the video anyway.

    • @intj2948
      @intj2948 3 роки тому

      I have the Savage Mark II F. The iron sights are spot on. Today they are cheap ($150 Walmart). Iron sights are spot on AND I have the option to add a scope.

  • @pnotuner1
    @pnotuner1 4 роки тому

    I don't understand the significance of the free float barrel on a short heavy barrel 22lr.

  • @sordello51
    @sordello51 6 років тому

    They are both excellent!

  • @dpeagles
    @dpeagles 8 років тому

    Yeah, I have the savage. Only dislike is the magazine and mag release.

  • @hisWACness
    @hisWACness 9 років тому

    Great video. I tested a Ruger American in.17HMR, and was quite pleased with the results when shooting ground hogs. It had the typical tapered barrel like you see with many hunting rifles, rather than a heavier barrel like you show here with both the Savage and Ruger.
    Do you know if either of these rifles are offered with the heavy barrel in .17HMR, .17WSM, or .22MAG?

    • @MichaelBellmbell556
      @MichaelBellmbell556  9 років тому +1

      Will Chambers The Ruger does have the tapered barrel and it is threaded. Both of the rifles come in 22WMR and .17HMR. I have a Savage MKll in 22WMR that I use to compare muzzle velocity in my video on the Magnum Research 1722M.

    • @hisWACness
      @hisWACness 9 років тому

      Michael Bell Thank you sir!

  • @Jay1830
    @Jay1830 8 років тому +2

    so i'm watching reviews since last year reading forums etc... to choose the best .22lr and this video is the last i watch to make my conclusion
    CZ bad trigger and picky about the rounds but have the best accuracy
    Savage is accurate but bad finish, bad stock, and no sight but good accuracy good trigger.
    Ruger take all the ammo, super good finish, sights, good stock, good trigger, take extended mags, very light, moa accurate.
    henry frontier heavy, tubular magasine, ok accuracy, not threaded, jam sometimes.
    I will go for the ruger (there is a lot more reasons than the few I gave)

    • @MichaelBellmbell556
      @MichaelBellmbell556  8 років тому +4

      You will like it. It is a classic beautiful rifle that works as good as it looks. Taking 10/22 magazines is a bonus.

    • @pnotuner1
      @pnotuner1 6 років тому

      I did the same research and came to the same conclusion. So I bought the Ruger American Rimfire with the 22 inch barrel. Shortly afterward I found a basic Savage Mark ii at the pawnshop and bought it too. I'm nothing short of disappointed with the Ruger as the Savage is much more accurate.
      Maybe the 18 inch Ruger is the way to go but the 22 inch doesn't get it done.

  • @Larimuss
    @Larimuss Рік тому

    Why for the love of god can savage just not come up with a batter clip and include them in all new rifles.. it’s the only thing making me hesitant over the Rugar.

  • @nephisilver3051
    @nephisilver3051 4 роки тому

    I'm very disappointed in the Savage I found one I sold it and bought a CZ 455 couldn't be more happier. .

  • @Pressingontoperfection
    @Pressingontoperfection 4 роки тому

    If you can only pick 1 which would it be

  • @jfk19780
    @jfk19780 7 років тому +4

    savage is clearly the much better gun ...after all ..they are the best !!!!!

    • @MichaelBellmbell556
      @MichaelBellmbell556  7 років тому

      They both have their strong points.

    • @daverodkey
      @daverodkey 6 років тому +1

      Far from the "BEST", but they ARE the cheapest, both in price and manufacture.

  • @derekddurbin
    @derekddurbin 9 років тому

    Didn't even mention the safety of either gun. Push button safety lever safety etc..

    • @MichaelBellmbell556
      @MichaelBellmbell556  9 років тому

      drumtech06 Sorry, overlooked that altogether. The Ruger has a classic rear tang safety. Tha savage has a leaver on the top right side. Both felt a little stiff but functioned well.

    • @Alex-gl5eo
      @Alex-gl5eo 9 років тому

      drumtech06 Who gives a fuck. That's such a small, negligible detail when it comes to purchasing one of these two guns.

    • @derekddurbin
      @derekddurbin 9 років тому +2

      Alex Cool​ it speaks to the ergonomics of the rifle. Can you be on target and disengage safety without having to move your hand positioning. Speaks a lot to the use of the rifle.

    • @MichaelBellmbell556
      @MichaelBellmbell556  9 років тому +1

      Good point

  • @hiltonmcconnell2563
    @hiltonmcconnell2563 2 роки тому

    why are you saying you can not get the Savage with iron sights there are a lot of models Savage has with iron sights I have 2 of them the Mark II FVT even comes with peep sights and the Mark II F have also has open iron V sights. and you can put a scope on bough of them if you wish But I just got the Mark II TR for a scoped rifle. Even the Savage 93 .22 WMR comes with iron sights but I did put a scope on mine. All you have to do is go to the Savage sight and you will see all the options, more than any other brand that I have looked up. Do not know why all you are making videos and saying things that are not true about Savage. It is starting to piss me off. Also the Savage A22 comes with iron sights, that makes a great barn yare rifle

  • @stevePHXD
    @stevePHXD 8 років тому

    Great video's on these rifles. I've been wanting the FV-SR for awhile, have in on a wait list at my gun shop actually. However, i just recently discovered the ruger american rimfire and its quickly winning me over. If you're having troubling deciding between the Tacti-cool Savage and the fit and finish of the Ruger, as I was at first, this model may solve your dilemma:
    www.theshootingstore.com/single-product?product_id=200447

    • @stevePHXD
      @stevePHXD 8 років тому

      The Iron sights on the standard keeps me wondering if should go with that one in 18" threaded barrel. The only real difference with the shooting store model is a heavy barrel and already installed rail.

  • @juliocesarrochadossantos4862
    @juliocesarrochadossantos4862 5 років тому

    Rifle top

  • @xtratabasco1
    @xtratabasco1 7 років тому +1

    ruger better value..thank. next time put link of field test...still cant find it, but like I said, thanks

    • @MichaelBellmbell556
      @MichaelBellmbell556  7 років тому

      UA-cam changed the annotation options a couple of months ago and previous links got deleted.

  • @Seitter494
    @Seitter494 9 років тому

    Ruger wins.

  • @NebukedNezzer
    @NebukedNezzer 4 роки тому

    more than 16 inches of barrel slows down the bullet.

    • @MichaelBellmbell556
      @MichaelBellmbell556  4 роки тому

      I have heard that 16 inches is the optimal barre length for 22LR. This seams to bear that out. Thanks for watching!

  • @marcomalo02
    @marcomalo02 4 роки тому

    I've owned both. Buy Ruger.

  • @katana258
    @katana258 5 років тому

    ruger just copys everyones else design .. all there in house guns never sell and suck

  • @deniseandmarkfirestine7443
    @deniseandmarkfirestine7443 6 місяців тому

    Ruger is better,

    • @dj3114
      @dj3114 3 місяці тому

      Better built, yes I agree. However, my choice was the Savage F and have no regret. As a bunny hunter in a cold climate, I find the Savage is much, much lighter and the iron sights are excellent and is very accurate off hand. It has studs for a sling but due to lightness, I've never used them. If you use a 5 round mag, it sits very close to flush. My friend has the Ruger and while heavier, it's very well built. For practicality, I love the lightness and point ability of the Savage - but both are completely reliable.