Actually, Chip always put his father before himself. Even at the start of the movie he told him to run and save himself. I guess Max felt it was time to repay the favour.
It's also possible he knew his son was an idiot so he figured he'd have a better chance of coming out alive between the two of them. I don't think he thought he'd really die
I love the movie but if have made just 2 slight changes that IMO Would make it even better. 1. The Penguin vs the cat scene in the crib in the beginning. Throughout the rest of the movie it portrays Cobblepot as a tragic villain. A bit of a grey character and its being abandoned to the sewers that made him this way. But at the beginning it shows him killing a cat offscreen and his parents share a look between each other and then abandon him. This makes him seem like a natural born monster. They should have had his parents throwing a dinner party with a few lines of dialogue and the guests remarking "hes beautiful" etc but with a look of disgust in their face. Then the parents abandon him purely because the way he looks. Then at this scene when Max volunteers himself in place of his son a brief moment of heartbreak, pain and regret flashes on Penguins face and he says confused, sad and solemnly "Youd do that for your son?" Then he can snaps back into rage mode Let me know what you think guys? TLDR : The movie portrays Cobblepot as a tragic villain with abandonment issues but the opening scene ruins that and shows he is a monster and animal killer from birth.
It's rather hilarious that Penguin didn't care about getting revenge against Max, rather directing it at Chip instead. Even when Max reminded Penquin of how he betrayed him, Oswald was like "Fine. Whatever. I have to take somebody. I have things to do, people to kill." Oswald really didn't give a shit Max betrayed him, he probably knew he was gonna do anyway. Not to mention ironically speaking, Max was strangely the closet thing Oswald considered a friend and he still didn't care.
@@coletrain583 Well, the only reason Max helped Penguin was because Penguin was blackmailing him to start with. He wasn't angry at Max for "betraying" him because he forced him into it to start with.
Max Shreck: "take me instead..isn't it Max Shreck who manipulated you?"...yet Max manipulated Penguin again into kidnapping him instead of Chip. Shows how sly and..well..manipulative Max's character is. Low key he's the main villain in this movie.
Not even close, Max would never have been OK with the Penguin's plan of mass genocide. The Penguin is the main villain of this movie. Selina and Max are more anti-heroes/anti-villains
@@spaceace4387 We're not talking about who's the most evil. Schrek used Penguin's desire to be loved and adored to aid his own schemes. When Selina Kyle discovered his schemes he tried to murder her. Schrek is the catalyst for both Catwoman and the Penguin's villainy which could make him the main villain in the film. I'd call him the overarching main antagonist whilst the Penguin is more the traditional main villain and Catwoman is far more anti-villain/anti-hero. Schrek is a straight up villain as his plan is to create a nuclear plant that will give him complete control of Gotham but will also slowly poison Gotham's citizens.
Okay, but can we all appreciate how when Penguin said how his gang was kidnapping children, Bruce Immediately left to go after them? He doesn't waste a second to get dressed into the batsuit and save the kids!
of course Bruce would, it's the very core of Batman's existence, to ensure that no 8-year-old boy would EVER lose his parents because of some punk with a gun.
In the comic book adaptation, as the duck descends back to the sewer, Penguin has his penguin soldiers launch their rockets at the cat head structure above the room making it drop onto the hole to ensure nobody would follow him back to his lair.
Dear God, I LOVE the rendition of the Penguin's theme music heard @ 0:33- 0:40 ! It has such a viciously triumphant, "Gothic meets supervillain" feel to it! It's one of my favorite compositions I've ever heard Danny Elfman create. How has he never won an Oscar for his magnificent musical scores?
SB0780 had a book as a kid that detailed the special effects of this movie. Had no idea those penguin are mechanical until I read that book. As far as that dance floor explosion, they really blew it up, and only one shot at it
Max always weasels his way out of things. No matter what happens, he finds a way to come out on top. In the end, it was his choice to die, because he would do anything for his son. Ironic that his one selfless action in life is the one that destroys him.
Here in Houston, there was a restaurant that had the duck, or most likely an exact replica, parked outside and used it for advertisement. Didn’t really work that much since the owner was cheating the customers by giving them frozen dinners and claimed all the food was freshly cooked.
"I'll let the little prince live for now." I think it's interesting that he says "for now." If the Penguin's plan succeeded, would he have eventually gone back and killed Chip anyway? He would probably be bothered knowing there was still one firstborn son in Gotham who was still alive...
@The House of Cassadine I don't think he cared if he survived at this point, he just wanted to strike back at the world that he thinks took everything from him. Quite frankly I'm surprised his remaining follower aside from the penguins still supported him as long as they did.
That’s because the present is very plastic and campy and will date horribly. Batman returns has excellent visuals, but lines up with the superhero camp of today.
@@Y2Kr4SHM4N this style will always have more staying power than the realistic/naturalistic swings. Fantasy is relatively constant in its distortions of reality, but what is 'realistic' is v particular to each era, and ages accordingly. A realistic portrayal in the 90s will feel serious and natural at the time, and seem v jarringly 90s now. When the genre swings back towards realism (and it will), Nolan's movies will be even more alien to reality then than they are today (and they're already like taking a weird time capsule back to the mood of the early 00s). The past is never as serious-faced as the present
James Reynolds Not at all. Thrillers usually are grounded in some sort of restrained realism. Silence of the Lambs is still a classic. Dead Calm is still a classic. Heat. Tears of the Sun. Clear and Present Danger. These films last the test of time because they are more realistic, or are grounded in some semblance of realism. Same with Batman 89. A fantastical world, yet the technology wielded by the Batman never seems ott until the Batwing or the finale. Same with films like Alien, the Thing, Top Gun, the Terminator. The classics are grounded in a plausible reality of rules they create which they don’t break. Even Ghostbusters starts off with creeping realism, referencing plausible science, so that by the time there’s a hulking 100ft Stay Puft Marshmallow Man, you believe it. Because everything prior was subtle and measured. Unlike films of the 2010s, where you’ll have a mutant, a witch, a guy with wings, a guy who controls storms. No plausibility. Until now, the films that lasted, outside comedies, had rules that gave them some sense of their own reality. And even the most realistic thrillers still lasted the test of time. Which I think doesn’t bode well for your argument.
@@Iagoingsoc I think a lot of people also fail to mention the length and runtime as well. I find The Dark Knight Rises to be a very boring film in comparison because of its bloated length. It clocks in at 2hrs 44 mins, and you definitely feel it because its scenes and dialogue drag on and on. I don't get that same vibe from Batman Returns because it is shorter and has better pacing.
Batman Returns really aged better than Batman89, too. Don't get me wrong, I really love Burton's first Batman, but there's a bit of a dated quality to the look and the sets, and also the Prince music dates it. Also, I much prefer the look of Gotham in Returns over 89. The Christmas setting adds to the atmosphere.
Hey, in some batman's stories, the penguin has that car with him, usually when he's robbing a bank or whatever, also he doesn't show or bring that car with him that much, also if look in some lego batman penguin sets, one of them might show him in that duck car which uses on water and land.
@@mikephelps9238 Yes! For your firstborn sons. The ones you left defenseless at home so that you could dress up like jerks, get juiced, and dance badly.
I love how the guests' reaction to learning their children are in danger is basically "our kids? oh crap." I'd be a bit more upset/outraged if I learned some creep had sent his goons to my house to kidnap my child lol
@@Adamguy2003 And most had lived a privileged existence with the biggest, scariest danger they ever faced was the prospect of driving themselves to the ball when their personal driver was off sick.
Can you imagine being somewhere and an explosion goes off, then someone comes up thru the floor in a duck. I don’t care if my leg was blown off, I would die laughing.
Max gets into the duck and the penguins were there to help keep him in line. I like how he reached over to pet one. “How cute, a penguin!” “Fuck off, you manipulative pos!” Lmaoo
In Tim Burton's iteration who's playing is not the favorite son it's kind of odd strange a loaner awkward. His parents died and people believe that that definitely affected them they just didn't believe that he was Batman. Shrek is a typical charismatic person who makes everyone loved him could be the same way or Bruce Wayne isn't life that he doesn't want that
Fun Fact, I read somewhere that there was actually an alternative script that had been floated around, where chip was actually killed by Selena. It’s after she becomes Catwoman, basically she lures chip to her apartment. He steps on what he thinks is a rug, it’s actually a giant vat of kitty litter And ends up going under. My guess is the writers originally wanted to create a game of cat and mouse between her and Shrek (Christopher Walken). She comes back to work when she’s supposed to be dead at about the same time his son goes missing. A did she or didn’t she kind of scenario.
0:48 - “Right now, my troops are fanning out across town for your children. Yes, for your firstborn sons. The ones you left defenseless at home. So you can all dress up like jerks, get juiced and dance... badly.”
The Mayors Masquerade costume makes perfect sense. Despite all the efforts he was making to reduce crime in Gotham, much of the people got suckered by Max and Penguin to demand a recall to vote the Mayor out a month after the election. So yeah, I’d feel like the city had stabbed me in the back to if I were in his position.
Nahh...it's been years and DeVito is too old now, plus DeVito seems more content behind the camera at this point. If they remake Batman with the Penguin as a chief baddie, how about Jack Black, Martin Freeman or Johnny Galecki? They're all fairly diminutive with wide ranging acting chops & in the proper age group (late 40s/early 50s)
@Cade Cannon Yep. Burton did a complete rewrite with the deformed backstory but he & DeVito made it work With respect to the new one, Dano actually looks like a Riddler to me whereas Farrell (the currently cast Penguin) I can see pulling off the Penguin role. We shall see how it goes...it BETTER be a notable improvement above Batman vs. Superman (can we say YAWN?)
@Cade Cannon Bale's Batman performance was fine, save for that growling voice (so irritating) but I prefer Keaton to him. With Keaton, there were lots of layers to Batman vs. Bale being kind of overly masculine You're right....lot of superhero films overindulge on CGI & special effects that it sometimes detracts from storytelling purposes, even if they're overall quality movies. Reeves directing is a bonus....he's created some acclaimed cinema in recent years.
From 0:33 to 0:40, I like to think the music sounds like a darker version of a children's tune that might be played as part of an infant's mobile. Obviously since this is a Tim Burton film there will be darker elements, but I like to think this reflects on Penguin's nature concerning him being sadistic and twisted, but also his terrible childhood-locked in a box, born with a genetic mutation which unfairly had him labeled as a "freak" and dumped into the river by his own parents, who would rather have abandoned him than help him. Granted he displayed signs of sadism and similar as an infant when he grabbed and attacked the family house cat (hinting at his future betrayal and attempted murder with Selina Kyle/Catwoman), but his parents could have possibly gave him love and care and possibly treatment for his condition both physically and psychologically. Eventually however, he ended up being raised by Penguins rather than people, and due to being raised by animals, he probably grew up with a feeling of absolute dismal hate towards humans, similar to how Poison Ivy became following her mutation and constantly surrounding herself with plants. All in all, the music reflects how Oswald's childhood was bitter and super terrible, and how it helped fuel his inner darkness. Just MO.
Even though Bruce was right that Max should be arrested for what he was doing, Max still did one good thing before he died that night. He saved his son. Chip originally was willing to die for his father at the beginning of the movie, but Max ultimately reversed that. Max saving his son was his last good deed in life.
The same guy who played Max Schreck’s son Charles “Chip” Schreck (Andrew Bryniarski) would later go on to play Leatherface for the 2003 remake of Texas Chainsaw Massacre and it’s 2006 prequel TCM The Beginning he also played the DC antihero Lobo for the short film The Paramilitary Christmas Special.
Look how's creepy and demented this penguin character is in this iteration. Marvelous work to capture the shit world of Gotham. The malevolence in the penguin is something I feel in my own hot blood. I relish this portrayal of all out assault on polite society by those subjugated to the sewers. Take it up the ass, Gotham.
2:02 - 2:10 LOL! The Penguins are like Penguin #1: Hey Watch it! *Max Shreck sits down and stares at one of them* Penguin #2: What are you looking at!? *Pokes him with his beak* *Max tries touch the Penguin's Beak* Penguin #3: Don't touch it or I'll bite you! *Tries to bite his Fingers*
Schreck is a despicable character but I like how Tim Burton portrayed him with a human side when he sacrifices himself to save his son
Actually, Chip always put his father before himself. Even at the start of the movie he told him to run and save himself. I guess Max felt it was time to repay the favour.
He's all about his legacy which would be worth nothing if his son died
His son is the only thing that matters. The Penguin knows it.
I will say this for Max he maybe a selfish, manipulative, horrible, creep but at least he loves his son more than his own life.
I think it's his brother, not his son
I was wrong, my fault
Rone 16 yeah.
I think he was trying to protect himself from the pissed-off Gothamites and figured the Penguin's lair was the safest place in town for him.
It's also possible he knew his son was an idiot so he figured he'd have a better chance of coming out alive between the two of them. I don't think he thought he'd really die
Tim Burton’s take on the penguin character is spot on and Danny de Vito really delivered it!
Not "spot on" from how Penguin acts in the comics, but entertaining.
He was the best one so far. Robin L Taylor coming in 2nd.
@@ShadowSonic2In a dark sinister version, not the clean campy one.
I love the movie but if have made just 2 slight changes that IMO Would make it even better.
1. The Penguin vs the cat scene in the crib in the beginning. Throughout the rest of the movie it portrays Cobblepot as a tragic villain. A bit of a grey character and its being abandoned to the sewers that made him this way.
But at the beginning it shows him killing a cat offscreen and his parents share a look between each other and then abandon him. This makes him seem like a natural born monster.
They should have had his parents throwing a dinner party with a few lines of dialogue and the guests remarking "hes beautiful" etc but with a look of disgust in their face. Then the parents abandon him purely because the way he looks.
Then at this scene when Max volunteers himself in place of his son a brief moment of heartbreak, pain and regret flashes on Penguins face and he says confused, sad and solemnly
"Youd do that for your son?"
Then he can snaps back into rage mode
Let me know what you think guys?
TLDR : The movie portrays Cobblepot as a tragic villain with abandonment issues but the opening scene ruins that and shows he is a monster and animal killer from birth.
Too bad it costed us future Batman movies under burtons direction
"If you have an iota of human feeling, take me instead."
"I don't so no."
LOL.
The million dollar question xD
So my friend Sandra is with me at QVC.
It's rather hilarious that Penguin didn't care about getting revenge against Max, rather directing it at Chip instead. Even when Max reminded Penquin of how he betrayed him, Oswald was like "Fine. Whatever. I have to take somebody. I have things to do, people to kill." Oswald really didn't give a shit Max betrayed him, he probably knew he was gonna do anyway. Not to mention ironically speaking, Max was strangely the closet thing Oswald considered a friend and he still didn't care.
@@coletrain583 Well, the only reason Max helped Penguin was because Penguin was blackmailing him to start with. He wasn't angry at Max for "betraying" him because he forced him into it to start with.
"So you could dress up like jerks get juiced and dance badly." He's got a point there.
Sounds like me, right now.
...
Oh shit.
Mccanns take note
Point taken.
These Batman villains do speak the truth.
Hmm, I've got an idea on how to troll Coachella next year...
Max Shreck: "take me instead..isn't it Max Shreck who manipulated you?"...yet Max manipulated Penguin again into kidnapping him instead of Chip. Shows how sly and..well..manipulative Max's character is. Low key he's the main villain in this movie.
Agustin Camejo You can say he was a lot of things but you can’t say he didn’t love his son.
His goal throughout the film was to leave behind a valuable empire for his son before he died. Doesn't excuse what he did, but whatever
OS1540 this is why max is the true main villain
Not even close, Max would never have been OK with the Penguin's plan of mass genocide. The Penguin is the main villain of this movie. Selina and Max are more anti-heroes/anti-villains
@@spaceace4387 We're not talking about who's the most evil. Schrek used Penguin's desire to be loved and adored to aid his own schemes. When Selina Kyle discovered his schemes he tried to murder her. Schrek is the catalyst for both Catwoman and the Penguin's villainy which could make him the main villain in the film. I'd call him the overarching main antagonist whilst the Penguin is more the traditional main villain and Catwoman is far more anti-villain/anti-hero. Schrek is a straight up villain as his plan is to create a nuclear plant that will give him complete control of Gotham but will also slowly poison Gotham's citizens.
I love How Shreck admitted to manipulating Oswald while manipulating him. XD
To protect his son from what i see
“In the duck!”
Laughed every time
DeVito was the only man living that could make that line work. Brilliant!
Earlier, The Penguin kidnapped Max. Here, he's ab-duckting Max.
Wark.
WARK.
Okay, but can we all appreciate how when Penguin said how his gang was kidnapping children, Bruce Immediately left to go after them? He doesn't waste a second to get dressed into the batsuit and save the kids!
Best Batman ever.
Agreed! He really was the best Batman! Shame he chose to never play the role again!
Michael Keaton hands down the best!
Yeah he bounced ASAP
of course Bruce would, it's the very core of Batman's existence, to ensure that no 8-year-old boy would EVER lose his parents because of some punk with a gun.
00:54 that shocked crowd sound has to be right up there with the Wilhelm scream. Hear it so often in shows and movies.
"You didn't invite me, so I crashed"...
The way he slaps his hat on the duck head just takes me out everytime!...
Still my favorite film explosion, no CGI, all in camera, real stunt men flying through the air. Perfect.
Best part of the film for me. No music build up, totally unexpected. Definitely shouldn't have been in the trailer, would have had more of a shock!
“You didn’t invite me, so I crashed!”
Makes me laugh every time
“So you can dance….BADLY” 😂😂😂
In the comic book adaptation, as the duck descends back to the sewer, Penguin has his penguin soldiers launch their rockets at the cat head structure above the room making it drop onto the hole to ensure nobody would follow him back to his lair.
1:13
A subtle running gag during the film is that no one gives a shit for the mayor.
Dear God, I LOVE the rendition of the Penguin's theme music heard @ 0:33- 0:40 ! It has such a viciously triumphant, "Gothic meets supervillain" feel to it!
It's one of my favorite compositions I've ever heard Danny Elfman create. How has he never won an Oscar for his magnificent musical scores?
Adamguy2003 me 2
Adamguy2003 So do I. It’s amazing 😁😁😁
And the way he just pops up outta the smoke!
What is that score called?
The explosion is so well done. When I was a kid I thought the blast actually sent people into the air.
The timing is spectacular.
Best party crash ever! No CGI either.
SB0780 had a book as a kid that detailed the special effects of this movie. Had no idea those penguin are mechanical until I read that book. As far as that dance floor explosion, they really blew it up, and only one shot at it
Ranks right up there with Rufus in The Big Country v=hW2JONQ2k3c
Better than any Marvel used CGI
You forgot two face
Actually Two face
I don't know why, but I find it hilarious when Danny Devito yells "IN THE DUCK!".
Max always weasels his way out of things. No matter what happens, he finds a way to come out on top. In the end, it was his choice to die, because he would do anything for his son.
Ironic that his one selfless action in life is the one that destroys him.
One good deed is not enough to redeem a man of a lifetime of wickedness... though it seems enough to condemn him!
That riff as the duck rises through the smoke, fucking Danny Elfman how does he work
Long and hard, according to his MasterClass
When you say riff, do you mean music, if so I also like the music when penguin leaves and stares evilly, at shreck
I love that duck.
1:58 😆
This is why I am here right now.
1:10 LOL!
So who the hell made the giant duck boat thing for him?
Here in Houston, there was a restaurant that had the duck, or most likely an exact replica, parked outside and used it for advertisement. Didn’t really work that much since the owner was cheating the customers by giving them frozen dinners and claimed all the food was freshly cooked.
"You're coming with me, ya great white dope!" LOL
GregOrCreg racist!
“To die way down in the sewer!”
@Jimmy Batson It did.
It's hard to imagine anyone else apart from Danny DeVito as The Penguin!
The greatest Batman movie ever made, and it's not even that close.
This movie was absolutely flawless and magnificent
Agreed.
I'll say one thing about the Penguin he sure knows how to make an entrance and quite an explosive one at that.
"I'll let the little prince live for now."
I think it's interesting that he says "for now." If the Penguin's plan succeeded, would he have eventually gone back and killed Chip anyway? He would probably be bothered knowing there was still one firstborn son in Gotham who was still alive...
Chip's loaded, and I presume pretty smart enough to use his assets to skedaddle anywhere in the world.
@The House of Cassadine I don't think he cared if he survived at this point, he just wanted to strike back at the world that he thinks took everything from him. Quite frankly I'm surprised his remaining follower aside from the penguins still supported him as long as they did.
My grandparents taught me that in the scene even if you’re a bad guy family comes first
This movie aged very well if I might say. Even better than The Dark Knight Rises.
That’s because the present is very plastic and campy and will date horribly.
Batman returns has excellent visuals, but lines up with the superhero camp of today.
@@Y2Kr4SHM4N this style will always have more staying power than the realistic/naturalistic swings. Fantasy is relatively constant in its distortions of reality, but what is 'realistic' is v particular to each era, and ages accordingly. A realistic portrayal in the 90s will feel serious and natural at the time, and seem v jarringly 90s now. When the genre swings back towards realism (and it will), Nolan's movies will be even more alien to reality then than they are today (and they're already like taking a weird time capsule back to the mood of the early 00s). The past is never as serious-faced as the present
James Reynolds Not at all. Thrillers usually are grounded in some sort of restrained realism.
Silence of the Lambs is still a classic.
Dead Calm is still a classic. Heat. Tears of the Sun. Clear and Present Danger. These films last the test of time because they are more realistic, or are grounded in some semblance of realism.
Same with Batman 89. A fantastical world, yet the technology wielded by the Batman never seems ott until the Batwing or the finale.
Same with films like Alien, the Thing, Top Gun, the Terminator. The classics are grounded in a plausible reality of rules they create which they don’t break. Even Ghostbusters starts off with creeping realism, referencing plausible science, so that by the time there’s a hulking 100ft Stay Puft Marshmallow Man, you believe it. Because everything prior was subtle and measured. Unlike films of the 2010s, where you’ll have a mutant, a witch, a guy with wings, a guy who controls storms.
No plausibility.
Until now, the films that lasted, outside comedies, had rules that gave them some sense of their own reality. And even the most realistic thrillers still lasted the test of time. Which I think doesn’t bode well for your argument.
@@Iagoingsoc I think a lot of people also fail to mention the length and runtime as well.
I find The Dark Knight Rises to be a very boring film in comparison because of its bloated length. It clocks in at 2hrs 44 mins, and you definitely feel it because its scenes and dialogue drag on and on.
I don't get that same vibe from Batman Returns because it is shorter and has better pacing.
Batman Returns really aged better than Batman89, too. Don't get me wrong, I really love Burton's first Batman, but there's a bit of a dated quality to the look and the sets, and also the Prince music dates it. Also, I much prefer the look of Gotham in Returns over 89. The Christmas setting adds to the atmosphere.
The one thing I always found cool about DeVito's Penguin was his duck car. 0:33
Hey, in some batman's stories, the penguin has that car with him, usually when he's robbing a bank or whatever, also he doesn't show or bring that car with him that much, also if look in some lego batman penguin sets, one of them might show him in that duck car which uses on water and land.
You didn't invite me so I crashed!
In the duck!
What do you want?
Boooo!
@@master-of-many-fandoms2020 right now my troops are fanning out across town for your children!
@@mikephelps9238 Yes! For your firstborn sons. The ones you left defenseless at home so that you could dress up like jerks, get juiced, and dance badly.
Little known fact: Christopher Walken was actually deathly afraid of penguins during filming.
It's called pigkouinophobia!
Yeah he flinched from one in the beginning.
that only just made Shrecks first meeting with Penguin in his lair better
I love how the guests' reaction to learning their children are in danger is basically "our kids? oh crap." I'd be a bit more upset/outraged if I learned some creep had sent his goons to my house to kidnap my child lol
Well said goon also has a gun umbrella and several penguins rigged with high powered missiles...personally i would be crapping my pants.
Most of them were still a little dazed/ disoriented from the explosion.
James Tyler I feel you. I’d be filled with anger if anyone tried to mess with my future son or daughter
@@Adamguy2003 And most had lived a privileged existence with the biggest, scariest danger they ever faced was the prospect of driving themselves to the ball when their personal driver was off sick.
"Did you hear that? Those vulgarians are going after our children. *Clutches Pearls* Muffy!"
Can you imagine being somewhere and an explosion goes off, then someone comes up thru the floor in a duck. I don’t care if my leg was blown off, I would die laughing.
1:20 damn that doll got fucked up! hahahaha
1:31 - "I don't, so no!" hahaaha
Max’s son, Chip, is played by the guy who was Leatherface in the Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake and it’s sequel. I found that cool.
And Zangief in Street Fighter
Has to be the most badass entrance in the whole movie
Max, kidnapped by the Penguin, still wants to pet the little Penguin by his side 😂
Max gets into the duck and the penguins were there to help keep him in line. I like how he reached over to pet one. “How cute, a penguin!”
“Fuck off, you manipulative pos!” Lmaoo
When The Penguin came for Gotham's favorite son I expected him to say Bruce Wayne not Chip Shreck
In Tim Burton's iteration who's playing is not the favorite son it's kind of odd strange a loaner awkward. His parents died and people believe that that definitely affected them they just didn't believe that he was Batman. Shrek is a typical charismatic person who makes everyone loved him could be the same way or Bruce Wayne isn't life that he doesn't want that
"If you have an iota of human feeling, take me instead."
"... I don't. So NO!"
🤣
2:10 adult penguin: what you looking at
Baby penguin: don’t touch me
JD yeah but it was funny
There all adult penguins
@@user-hh4vp8bq3v really
Yes
Fun Fact, I read somewhere that there was actually an alternative script that had been floated around, where chip was actually killed by Selena. It’s after she becomes Catwoman, basically she lures chip to her apartment. He steps on what he thinks is a rug, it’s actually a giant vat of kitty litter And ends up going under. My guess is the writers originally wanted to create a game of cat and mouse between her and Shrek (Christopher Walken). She comes back to work when she’s supposed to be dead at about the same time his son goes missing. A did she or didn’t she kind of scenario.
Fun fact: tRump lost the election
Danny Devito playing penguin is the most underrated Batman villain of all time
Max Shrek 😂😂😂
"WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN MY SWAAAMP!"
Jesus, even when he's talking about his own horrible death Shreck is ruthless
Got to love how the mayor's costume is just a knife in the back. That's basically what Gotham City did when they nearly let Penguin replace him.
0:48 - “Right now, my troops are fanning out across town for your children. Yes, for your firstborn sons. The ones you left defenseless at home. So you can all dress up like jerks, get juiced and dance... badly.”
I’ve personally come for Gotham’s favorite son, Mr. Chip Shrek.
The Mayors Masquerade costume makes perfect sense. Despite all the efforts he was making to reduce crime in Gotham, much of the people got suckered by Max and Penguin to demand a recall to vote the Mayor out a month after the election. So yeah, I’d feel like the city had stabbed me in the back to if I were in his position.
The mayor was still replaced by the following film.
GregOrCreg I know.
1:37
Max is lucky Penguin was so petty.
Because after his little spiel, I would've DEFINITELY killed Chip, knowing it would make him suffer more.
Mr. Ink you're a rather distrubed individual, aren't you?😂
Danny Devito is so good in this scene. lol. He has some great lines but they are very much enhanced by his delivery.
Max's Son was set to take over his Father's mantle as CEO in a continued Comic series called 'Batman '89', but it got scrapped...
Well, I am here from the future to tell you that that comic series is being revived and is coming out this July!!!!!
This penguins so cute
Just realized that Max Shreck was the REAL villain.
Always has been
walken can play those bad guy roles👍
that music is perfect!
Dany Elfman is a Amazing composer
Should Danny DeVito reprise the role of The Penguin?
Nathaniel Preston I'd be all for it! But given how old Devito is now, and that Penguin died at the end of this movie, it's unlikely he ever will.
Nahh...it's been years and DeVito is too old now, plus DeVito seems more content behind the camera at this point.
If they remake Batman with the Penguin as a chief baddie, how about Jack Black, Martin Freeman or Johnny Galecki? They're all fairly diminutive with wide ranging acting chops & in the proper age group (late 40s/early 50s)
@Cade Cannon Yep. Burton did a complete rewrite with the deformed backstory but he & DeVito made it work
With respect to the new one, Dano actually looks like a Riddler to me whereas Farrell (the currently cast Penguin) I can see pulling off the Penguin role.
We shall see how it goes...it BETTER be a notable improvement above Batman vs. Superman (can we say YAWN?)
@Cade Cannon Bale's Batman performance was fine, save for that growling voice (so irritating) but I prefer Keaton to him. With Keaton, there were lots of layers to Batman vs. Bale being kind of overly masculine
You're right....lot of superhero films overindulge on CGI & special effects that it sometimes detracts from storytelling purposes, even if they're overall quality movies.
Reeves directing is a bonus....he's created some acclaimed cinema in recent years.
unfortunately we lost our modern day Penguin in Philip Seymour Hoffman
Still my favorite Batman Movie today!!😂
How can u take a man seriously who drives around in a duck
If you don´t he shoots you with his umbrella
How can you NOT take a man seriously who drives around in a duck?
He uses it for abduckting people, so...
The again, how could you take a clown seriously?
1:58 In a Duck 🦆!
From 0:33 to 0:40, I like to think the music sounds like a darker version of a children's tune that might be played as part of an infant's mobile. Obviously since this is a Tim Burton film there will be darker elements, but I like to think this reflects on Penguin's nature concerning him being sadistic and twisted, but also his terrible childhood-locked in a box, born with a genetic mutation which unfairly had him labeled as a "freak" and dumped into the river by his own parents, who would rather have abandoned him than help him. Granted he displayed signs of sadism and similar as an infant when he grabbed and attacked the family house cat (hinting at his future betrayal and attempted murder with Selina Kyle/Catwoman), but his parents could have possibly gave him love and care and possibly treatment for his condition both physically and psychologically. Eventually however, he ended up being raised by Penguins rather than people, and due to being raised by animals, he probably grew up with a feeling of absolute dismal hate towards humans, similar to how Poison Ivy became following her mutation and constantly surrounding herself with plants. All in all, the music reflects how Oswald's childhood was bitter and super terrible, and how it helped fuel his inner darkness. Just MO.
'' Your coming with me you Great White Dope!''
Even though Bruce was right that Max should be arrested for what he was doing, Max still did one good thing before he died that night. He saved his son. Chip originally was willing to die for his father at the beginning of the movie, but Max ultimately reversed that. Max saving his son was his last good deed in life.
0:48-1:10 is terrifying of Penguin’s rage and sinister evil plan of taking children. He was born for this role. Man so good.
'IN THE DUCK!"
The duck goes down and The Penguin stares menacingly at Max.
This is like how maleficent crashed aurora's christianing
When The Penguin abducts Max Shreck, he *Abduckts* Max Shreck... *IN THE DUCK.*
The best film I've ever seen...
" You didn't invite me, so i crashed " xD xD
You're coming with me, you great white dope!!!
Danny deVito did great as the Penguin, Im suprised he didnt play another role lime this. Like The Violator/The Clown in Spawn.
The Clown in Spawn is like a cross between The Joker and The Penguin.
1:20 that quick draw is straight up DIABOLICAL 😭
I hope you realize that Max Shreck gets ab-duckted in this scene.
2:10 when you’re off your head getting a lift from someone and their family
You didn't invite me, so i CRASHED
I'll say this the penguin knew how to make an entrance
The nerve penguin has rushing into Shrecks swamp uninvited like that.
Danny DeVito must have had a lot of fun playing The Penguin.
Danny Devito is by far the best actor in this movie. It's a privilege watching him work.
I also say and think that this is the only time Max was selfless.
Even Evil Has Loved Ones.
The same guy who played Max Schreck’s son Charles “Chip” Schreck (Andrew Bryniarski) would later go on to play Leatherface for the 2003 remake of Texas Chainsaw Massacre and it’s 2006 prequel TCM The Beginning he also played the DC antihero Lobo for the short film The Paramilitary Christmas Special.
Proof that Shrek exists in Gotham
Love the penguins army of penguins with missles on their backs.
Max Shrek was a piece of crap, but at least he was a true father to his son.
Danny De Vito is the best Penguin! Less the nose biting.
Look how's creepy and demented this penguin character is in this iteration. Marvelous work to capture the shit world of Gotham. The malevolence in the penguin is something I feel in my own hot blood. I relish this portrayal of all out assault on polite society by those subjugated to the sewers. Take it up the ass, Gotham.
Sure knows how to make an entrance. 🐧
0:39
You didn’t invite me, SO I CRASHED! 😈
2:02 - 2:10
LOL! The Penguins are like
Penguin #1: Hey Watch it!
*Max Shreck sits down and stares at one of them*
Penguin #2: What are you looking at!? *Pokes him with his beak*
*Max tries touch the Penguin's Beak*
Penguin #3: Don't touch it or I'll bite you! *Tries to bite his Fingers*
you can see also the all Penguins loves Danny DeVito very much at the all movie , i think Danny DeVito stayed with them at all the time
Is it true that Schrek was the inspiration behind Daggett from the comics and later The Dark Knight Rises?
I wouldn't be surprised than I remembered Daggett from Batman the Animated Series
Max is so elegant!
1:14 The mayor gets no respect.
"So you could dress up like jerks! Get juiced and dance! Badly!"
"You're coming with me! You great white dope!"
Nicolas Carlos TO DIE! Way down in the sewers.
And now...In the duck!
The actor who plays Chip is Zangief from Van Damme's Street Fighter and Leatherface in Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2003.
This batman was ahead of its time
0:33 gives me goosebumps ever time I watch that scene.
He should have worked with Two-Face in the following movie
Mr Blue He was dead in the following movie.
@Juaco VTX7 Yeah but Chip was a complete dope so it wouldn't have added anything.