STOP selling your abstract art on ebay
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Okay, I get a lil heated at the end, would love to hear any opposing opinions! My mind can be changed when given some thicc arguments (◕‿◕✿)
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I wanna add a friendly reminder that the art history that most of you know is very white washed. I know this is not super relevant to this video, but the argument of good art vs bad art where "good art" are pieces made by white men in fancy museums vs "bad art" which is art made by average people in their garages is not a valid argument against this video. Just because that type of art is deemed valid in the world sculpted by white colonialism, doesn't mean it's the only valid art. thank u😌 (also, loving the feedback and differing opinions, just wanted to give some insight about what I'm thinking lmao)
would also like to add that these pieces that are so famous today were typically not famous when the artist was alive. people shat on them for experimenting, the same way people are shitting on these people for experimenting ya feel?
You are mixing art history with contemporary art demands and being horribly ignorant of the groundwork artists of the past laid. You are supposed to be inspired, study their techniques, and then make your own unique creations stepping on their masterpieces as stepping stones for your success.
@@vsee3154 not sure how im being ignorant. my statement is criticizing those who compare modern working class artists to famous artists of the past. also art history is contemporary art imo, i personally think we’re in another age of dada with digital mediums
Aren’t u white 💀
@@brrrra196 me being half white doesn’t make history less white washed
I completely agree with you! There is absolutely no such thing as "fake" art. All art is real. This video needs more attention!
yes!! always support the creation of art, no matter the reason!✊
that title clickbait had me in the first half, not gonna lie lmaooooo i 100% agree with you, that argument is the epitome of elitism and it’s dumb. art is subjective and supposed to be fun!!
yes!! just want everyone to make art and be happy lol
Doctor Cough-for-Me oooo looks like we found the triggered elitist with the stick up their ass! and no, actually, i personally don’t have any expectations for other people, young or old, when it comes to making art, but yes, i would hope those that make it so enjoy the process and outcome. whether it be “squared and circles” or landscapes or portraits, random bright strokes of color or things i can’t even decipher visually, whatever it may be. art is supposed to be a sense of release and escape and it can be simple and fun or methodical and challenging. and just because you don’t like something doesn’t mean it’s not good or it’s not “art.” that applies to all forms of art including tv/film and music too. so yes, i AM being real and i’m the realest it gets. you have a good day!
Honestly if I was rich, I try to buy almost every single art, even if the artist is a beginner and messed up on one. Because art for me plays with emotions and the connection with the universe and you
this is so lovely 😌 i understand, i’m not rich but i recently have been able to buy people’s art here and there and it’s such an amazing feeling. it’s like a collection of small snapshots of other people’s brains/experience
@@PatriciaHuffman exactly!
I'm a future art teacher and I actually did a technique similar to the first painting you did in one of my uni courses which took place in a local modern art museum. They usually do it with high school students, it's part of a sequence-thing they do for school classes about Ernst Richter, who uses this technique of layering on some of his paintings. It was really funny when you said that people could do this in arts class, because I did this in arts class! :D
this is so amazing to hear!! my high school art teacher meant the absolute world to me, so it’s lovely to hear that you’ll be that for students one day. also.. you’re making me want to take art classes again?? lol
You said exactly the things I was thinking about this. So relieved to see other people think this that ALL ART IS REAL.
Honestly, If you have fun doing it, if you express how you feel, its art
There was one time when somebody put a pair of sunglasses on the floor of a random art gallery and people started taking photo's of it. I guess success in art all comes down to entrepreneurial skills.
I'm actually inspired to try and sell my art on ebay now. I've never sold a piece before.
yup! marketing your work is almost as important as the talent, and go for it!!
Well, did you sell anything.
Me too! I actually do landscaped and portraits tho. Hey uve heard Bout the banana duct taped to the gallery wall right? Sold for like $154,000 lol ya... Tell me that isn't subjective
As a struggling artist, it does piss me off a little to see people who give zero fucks about art, all of the sudden be like: let's see how I can make a profit out of anything. like most of "musicians" , "tattoo artists" and "poets" these days. Yeah, there is no high art or low art, but there is art and there is sucking profit for profit or trend- something that gen z specializes in...Lacking passion.
Head nodding to all your rants because I 100% agree. And I am a ‘professional artist”. Not trained, self taught like most people and I say let people make and sell what they want! Ain’t nobody better than anyone else. Follow your bliss and the money will show up eventually.
I should do this in spare time. Looks very relaxing.
Kevin Thomas it’s so so relaxing. very messy and fun, would recommend doing it on a surface you don’t care about!
@@PatriciaHuffman will do.
Dear Patricia, as a student of law of attraction, I must say this example is why there is a lack mentality among people. Actually, anyone can be or do anything they want, including art if their vibration matches up to the request, it takes no special quality just a desire despite what someone (yes. Meaning well Parents too). Money making too. You create your own reality, good or bad, what you focus on is what is created. Younger people too, need to know not to focus in on what is seen, heard or smelled.
your last sentence here confused me, but overall, yes I agree! I'm a firm believer in the law of attraction, though I do think it's a journey to uphold these beliefs. Especially right now, with a pandemic and political upheaval in my country. But, I do believe that if you believe in something, and work hard, you can make it happen. Which is why I think it's heartbreaking for some artists to put down others who are exploring the field 😌
I totally agree with you!! And I love how chill you are, love your paintings and how creative you are, subscribed! ❤
this is sooo sweet, thank you!!
Clickbait title drew me in. But your personality made me subscribe 😍😂
omg thank you so much!!!💜💜💜💜
Just watched this and I love your point of view so much. This is a huge reason I have always been terrified to post or try to sell my art because I never thought it was "good" enough.
I was like- "Why cant I sell a green canvas with two plastic spoons on it?"
This video makes me want to do art again :p
omg yeeeesss do iiiiit
I see the sky theme, but I felt like I was watching a school of koi fish swimming under water! Love the colors.
the problem is when people who don't know how to price art sell it for way cheaper than it should be, which lowers value and perception of value overall making it harder and harder for professional artists to generate liveable income. DONT UNDERPRICE YOUR ART JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT A "PROFESSIONAL." if it's good it's good.
If his art was that great someone would want to buy it. Your art or my art or someone else’s art could NOT devalue his art if someone, or anyone, found it appealing or interesting!
You are so amazingly genuine. Love it! ❤️
I actually really love that blue one!
"I don't know if I just sound like a pretentious asshole." Lmao 🤣
The lesson here is that no one is an instant anything in the art world--internationally or nationally. ITS THE PROCESS. And the process (particularly the failures) is the beautiful educational and transformative part. Vincent van Gogh, e.g., never knew much about his background or education....didn't care because I'm African-American, female, into photography. Take a look at "Still Life with Cabbage and Clogs" then "Bedroom in Aries." I understand "now" that before Van Gogh was successful (only after he died), he attempted to paint using the styles of all the famous painters of his time. All white men. Miles Davis, African-American male musician quote: "I started out playing like Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespie, Donald Byrd..... and then I found my own sound." No matter what culture or gender you are, the process is the same.
I dont mind the tik tok challenge, the only beef Ive had with it from alot of the videos ive watched, is the tiktokers who dont think their art is real because of it. Like they call their own art "fake art" because their just doing it for money, and often have this sarcastic attitude about art in general. For example, one guy said "Im going to put this fake art on ebay and write a stupid caption about what it means and im going to put 'abstract' as the title cause that sounds deep and fancy" and i was like.... but it **IS** abstract though. And that**IS** easily what that painting means to you. Dont be sarcastic about it like its fake, cause its not. Your intentions mighg not be the same as "real" artosts, but your work is practically the same lol. Everything is art, even if that sounds cheesy to some. Architecture is art. Films are art. Idk, i forgot what i was ranting about. Anywho, love the video :)
How is it fake.. .?? She legit painted them....her self. It's REAL!!!
Oooh lord I was ready to fight after reading the title. Lmao I’ve got my fists down now. That first painting was lovely!! And I like the second one too. I also love that you talked about how orientation changes the painting!
thats literally how i felt when i was seeing all the discourse 😂 and thank you!!!
patricia -yinqish I had fortunately missed the discourse but I remember when the trend first started so I was like “how dare you try and shame somebody for making that elitist high art bullshit bag” but like... that wasn’t what you were saying at all lmao. I need to grab a canvas and do this no because it looks really fun. I love to play in paint.
exactly!!! and yes yes yes!! it’s seriously so fun, i need to do it again too haha
Amen!!!! All art is real!!!! 🤘🏾🤘🏾🤘🏾
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That's what people say who can't draw
Yeah I mean like these artists only have this to get income. And they do it because it's there passion. But at the same time I do agree with you a bit
100%, i support artists in all that they do. just know it’d be sm better for their business if they didn’t rely on ebay auctions 😭
I just subscribed today and there's alredy a new video?! Yes!
💃🏻appreciate you, thank you 💜
I understand the feeling of that artist. They just showed their frustrations and no one understands them until they invest their life and money on art and still struggle financialy.
The way before you even said they were hot air balloons that’s what I thought they looked like lol
I don't really see what the tittle has to do with the video. I feel a bit clickbaited. However i agree that art has the value you give it, if you're an artist, a buyer who buys it for the pleasure of seeing that piece, or a someine who buys it as an investiment.
I agree with you mostly. But trends come and go. At the very least, it will inspire new artists that you don’t need to have years of experience or study to sell your stuff and gain value from hours of hard work 🤷♀️. It’s annoying when people disrespect that aspect of it, but again, it’ll die back down.
Right. If your art work is so *precious* and buyers are attracted to others' instead of yours, either find a different market or step up your game, bud. But let's not lose sight of the fact that this is just the latest iteration of "us" fighting amongst ourselves for the *crumbs* falling off "their" table. They enjoy it when "we" do that!
I agree that there is no such thing as fake art. I do however want to stress that the majority of art pieces are not bought by rich people and there is not a lot of money in the act of art itself unless you are on e of the very lucky. So that being considered this is what the guy was saying poorly, If there are "Artist" that sell their art to actually make a living and then suddenly a trend happens that causes the market to be flooded with pieces that could cause harm to revenue thus putting some of the artists "out of business" but not for a genuine reason but for a temporary trend. Art is expensive with paints costing from 10 to 100 dollars a tube , canvases , etc. once you lose or greatly reduce your income it is hard to get started again. I do not believe that he was wanting the people actually interested in art to stop but those just doing the trend to consider the damage it was doing to the market. I pray that many people that "just" did the trend actually enjoyed it and become artistic. Again it is not rich people that buy the majority of the art that is sold. it is Doctors offices, dentist Offices, designers etc. So lets keep it flowing but protect those that depend on it.
Where they believe the "value" comes from...is their $200,000 degree, 20 years experience, 50,000 worth of supplies and half mil dollar studio. Yep. Lol all that means NOTHING if u sell your art girl. And that, doesn't sit well with them lol. Awesome video and subject, ur bold and beautiful lol amen
I love your channel 💕 you inspired me soon much thanks to you I feel so much better when it comes to my art 😊
YEES QUEEN, that makes me so happy to hear 💜 thank you 💕
This video is so true... It's absolutely rich people culture. For centuries they kept art a rich people culture finally it's becoming available to everyone and they still have a problem with it.
No.....Crap is crap . Real art is developed, layered, rich, nuanced, intelligent, emotionally evocative. It inspires, lifts, and challenges. It is unique, and infused with the artist's talent and soul.
being a working class artist doesn’t mean these adjectives don’t apply to their art 😌
I am SOOO glad I saw this video. I completely agree with you!!
Lol "you are making dumb decision...it is fun" 😂😂😂😂💯
unleash your inner child and be messy and dumb 😤 it’s thrilling 😂
@@PatriciaHuffman agree 🙌🙌🙌🙌
I'm sorry girl, I totally disagree. It is not elitist at-all. Anybody can be an artist, that's true, but this stupid trend comes from people who genuinely do not believe in abstract art and who consider art buyers for dumb assholes. That's the whole difference here.
i haven’t seen anyone mention thinking art buyers are dumb assholes. it’s actually smart to invest your money into something tangible that will hopefully increase in value, or if it doesn’t, then you can look at your money instead of it sitting in a bank. there’s really no difference in my eyes though, art is art, even if it’s made with the intention of thinking rich people are dumb assholes. appreciate the input though! love the different perspective
@@PatriciaHuffman People who do this, do not take their art seriously.That's why artists make series on themes or just keep on doing the same thing, because they are trying to reach a certain point whether their art means something or not. That's also another big difference between artists and people who just paint some random thing and post it to just see if it can sell. Those people don't take their art seriously. And being serious doesn't mean being strict or something but it means persistence through time and respect for your own art. Abstract artists or performance artists put their time, and hearts in their work. That is what it is all about. Not just vomiting something once and see if it can sell. I'm sorry i'm using harsh words but that's the only way I can make the idea clear. But I like your optimism about it.
Ur so right! It’s about time people realised that there’s no such thing as ‘fake’ art tbh
Also can I just say, I’m actually in love with that first painting! Like they’re both amazing, but that first one looks absolutely beautiful when it’s hung up😍
thank you!! so stoked you liked it
So why don't you buy it from her?
I just came across your channel and I already love your content and your way of thinking!!
thank you lovely 🥺💜🌻
aCh- I love your shirt with the flowers so much. I want to find one like that.
thanks girl!!! i got it thrifting so sadly i can't recommend a store
patricia -yinqish you’re almost at 1k! That’s my goal!! Btw if you wanna support eachother it would be great!
They say if you paint the corner of your painting black, it sometimes is a sign of a mental illness
that’s actually insane because they’re not wrong lmaoooo
Wait so should I or should I not sell my art on eBay?
Yes!😃💕🌈
I’ve got stacks and stacks of paintings in garage. Thought about selling on eBay...but I’m lazy. Shipping seems a pain. Now I’m uploading digital art to redbubble and hoping something, anything sells eventually.
#illiquidAsset ...just learned something new. Cool! ✨🌸✨
go for it!!! sending good vibes your way✨✨✨
Girrrrrrrl, you are 💯!!!!! Art is Art... I sell tiny drawings all week long lol. So if anyone wants to call me fake, I’m okay with that. People I sell to have zero complaints and that’s all that matters.
I can tell low quality art from a mile away TBH and so do good collectors. Iliterate People’s opinions don’t make a paiting valuable otherwise you would had mever heard of van gogh and many others and IKEA would be the new MoMa
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I got hot air balloons immediately after you made the first dots ((:
nothing has made me happier than this comment, i’m not gonna lie 😭
The value that it is art comes from the person that buys the art, yes. But the difference is (and what he tried to say) is that they didn’t put them to be sold because thy envoyés making art, because they want to be an artist even for some time, these people specifically say and show that that are doing this just because of the money, just to see how much money a painting that has no meaning or has an “invented” or words that the artist didn’t see in this painting while making it. Not because eggy love art, not because they want to sel their art and have in income from it, but because of how much money they can make. That is what “fake” art is for us. Someone who doesn’t do it for the passion or pleasure but because of how much money they can get and actually showing in these videos that this is not something that means something for them, and people who buy art that’s why they buy it, for the passion, meaning and to help the artist because they enjoy the art. Also the part with what’s real and what’s not because people that buy them like to see the meaning and yes people are buying it because they think it is something out of a expensive gallery but as much as that is bad and I personally hate it, those are the people that actually buy the paintings, that is why the art community is so “deep” because otherwise people do not buy it, and is already hard for artist to sel and have an income from their art.
I agree with u, I’m also an art student and a beginner artist in the industry, and these people who sell “fake” art making it even more hard for people who is really trying to get in the field, like we spend years and years studying art and making art, giving meanings to the art that we made, pouring emotion, and philosophy to our art, even the one that is abstract, that’s why some art are so expensive, not just the art that being made without thinking, just for the money.
Sorry if my english is bad, it’s not my first language.
Wow very timely video. I was just thinking yesterday about how I haven't let myself play when it comes to art because of the desire to share nicely finished pieces on UA-cam or social media. Good for you for letting loose and enjoying the process. And yes, there's room for all of us in this game. So-called professional artists and hobbyists alike. (I hope!) See you next week! 😍
It's so easy to get caught up in making "perfect art," we're all just actively trying to be better and social media makes it feel impossible haha. thanks for watching!! appreciate you always!💜💜💜
Wow you are so pretty and so is your art work and omg those glasses
🥺💜 thank u
Thank you for the encouragement. This makes me feel so confident to even just try with my art. You’ve broadened my mindset even more.
love love love this!!!!!
thank you🥰💜💜
Didn't you turn your "balloon" masterpiece upside down? Got to know when to stop. Figure 3 by noon - take the rest of the day off.
Am I bad that I'm not interested in painting at all but just want to do easy art and sell it very expensive?
I guess so
nah, just do it! it's fun
.me too like wtf. Im in high school (10th grade) and I really wanna make my own money quick coz my parents really have it tough and I dont wanna make their lives any more miserable. I was thinking of making paintings as well and selling them. I need motivation though coz i really cant paint either..
It has to do with quality and how some artists have spent years building skills. Its not a privilege to learn skills. There is sacrifice involved. If you want to sell high end art to rich people, you wouldn't sell on ebay anyway.
True. Create. Don't think. But why do you shoot them with shadows across them?
agreed!! and idk, just vibed with it lol
Nailed it!
i no this video is old but your a great artist
omg thank you sm 💜🙌
Great point!!! so there saying the banana on wall guy is better than what you just made! obviously that's not true.
girl! I love your videos! They are so fun! ymmm...ACTUALLY You are so fun! & I totally agree witheverything you say in the video
omggg thank you so much!!💜i appreciate the heck outta ya!!!
i dropped my phone while watching this and now the screen is cracked T=T
i'm really leaving an impact huh? 😂
Sell it as art. Tell the story.🙃
Yes you know what's up.
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I can kinda agree with the guy because im an artist and ive barely made 500 dollars with artwork that took me days to finish and to know there are people out there doing this for trending purposes and actually making bigger money than me blows
hmm i understand this frustration. but i don't think it's good for the soul to be mad at other people's success. turning jealousy into inspiration changed my life forreal
@@PatriciaHuffman and yet you ranted and raved against rich people and white-washing. You sure you're not mad at other people's success?
I feel you.
This girl on the video doesn’t have a damn clue what she’s talking about.
I see nothing but zero bids on all painting.....bad place to sell
Before anyone comes at me: I’m writing this comment while watching. I haven’t watched it fully through yet.
So here is my opinion no one cares about: tbh, I don’t care where people sell what art somewhere? Like you do you, if someone is willing to buy it... go for it. Idgaf haha I totally agree with you!
But I thought about it for a while and I think my definition of success in art isn’t about how much money you’re able to make. But I feel like a lot of people call them or others successful, when coming to a point where the sold art has a high value? And some people don’t see the value in that and don’t seem to like the “success” of others? Idk hard to describe.
MY definition of success, and I am saying this as an art and art history student in my 6th semester at Uni, would more be on the “impact you make” side.
Kandinsky wrote whole books about his understanding of art and forms and colors and all. A lot of artist like Picasso, Van Gogh, Courbet or Pollock have made an impact. Joseph Beuys opening up the whole definition of art, just as well as the idea of Gerry Schums “Fernsehgalerie”, where he wanted to use the TV as a gallery, paying artist not by buying their work but for recording and broadcasting their work on tv, bringing art near the mass and out of the madness of the traditional art business.
That’s why I don’t care if someone sells their work online. That’s why I don’t care, if you make a million dollars for a painting, where you played with the spontaneous color choosing or whatever concept you are going for. These guys made this possible to have a wide variety of art, of understandings of art. They made it acceptable for art not only to be hung up in rich peoples houses, galleries, museums but also have the ability to get away from the old fashioned art market, to define your own idea of art. You choose, how you want to be successful in art. This is the freedom this whole “selling on eBay thing” inhabits and gives us.
Conclusion: there isn’t a reason for me at all, why someone shouldn’t sell their abstract art on eBay. It’s the freedom we have today and it’s the freedom we should appreciate.
It’s a freedom to choose your path in art and where/how you want to make an impact. It’s even connected to the freedom of us being able to love and hate stuff. This freedom is the beauty right?
And sometimes I feel like a little provocation isn’t bad.
I, again, 100% agree with you!! (and that doesn’t mean I love every piece of art I see lol)
I hope this was understandable, English isn’t my native language.
this was such a lovely, well thought out comment. I really enjoyed reading it. also, your english is soooooo good. this was so well written, i felt like i was in college again haha
I also love your view on art being an impact. Adding all these fun tidbits into my future discussions
@@PatriciaHuffman so glad you like it 😳☺️ love sharing thoughts with others, so thank you for making a video like this! It’s awesome
Everyone is an artist just because you went to art school and got a degree and art does NOT and I mean NOT mean that you have the right to criticize others because they actually get something out of there art
couldn't agree more 😌
Thank you for this video! Im not sure I understand, Do you think its a good idea to auction art on eBay. Respectful regards !!!
I'm actually not the best to give advice on successfully auctioning art on ebay. my point of view comes from a working class perspective. i think it doesn't hurt to try, but i haven't put much effort into trying myself
Do or dont do: it is up to you to choose 😉💕🌈🏞
This is dope
tysm 💜
How does this hole painting sell on eBay thingy Works? Any guesses?
No clue, tbh. A lot of the bids were forsure because some of the tiktoks went viral. But I have no idea how selling as an average artist works.
Thanks for the answer. :)
Leander Nandalee no prob!! do you have any theories?
No, the guys right it's not about the quality or worth or the person you've missed the point entirely, there are only so many customers to go round and the algorithm will only show so much to so many people. By people jumping on a trend trying to get rich quick and flooding a website with shit just hurts everyone.
ebay seems pretty unreliable as a stream of revenue then
$100,000 dollar bannana stuck to a canvas.......lol
I think it looks good
love you...your my soulmate,,,,i agree with everything you just said,,,we are like twins
I adore you so SO much! haha
ah!!! thank you sm!!💜✨
Epic. ❤
Rich don't buy abstract. Rich buy medieval style,still life,Ancient attractive women art.
Cool video. I paint too. I have yet to sell on ebay only get scams 😂 keep painting. Gonna search for your work on IG
yoooo i got so many scams too. they're really tryna finesse us huh? lmao glad you liked the video!🖤
@@PatriciaHuffman for sure. I excepted one. It was higher than what i asked for which was weird. But i literally just started ebay so i didnt understand until they were askibg weird crap. Hmgot my hopes uo and smashed them 😂😂😂😔
Dayne Britten right!!! they’re like “gimme your number” like no thanks, i choose life
At the end of the day art is subjective
she said the word art in this video i realized art is a fucking weird word.
feel the exact same thing every time i edit myself. had to google the word spoon once bc i thought it wasn’t real lmao
@@PatriciaHuffman bruh really lol
Loved the rant but acrylic pours are art too. Piece Peace
sorry i lashed out at acrylic pours, i didn’t mean it. i actually love acrylic pours haha
Yeah, that one guy's take is cringey. Like, sorry that you have more competition now? 😆 Your art will find the people its meant for, the people who are drawn to it. And if that's not happening, maybe you need to step up your game! I think it should be used as fuel to do better, to challenge yourself. Not to put other people down and gatekeep.
There is no such thing as fake art. Art is for the beholder. Sell your art. I sell mine. And I am no way at the top of the list. But I enjoy it and my walls are getting full. But as a family, we are selling it. Screw him. If he is complaining, then he needs to find a new medium. Sell your shit girl.
YEEEEESSSSS!!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Fine Art people are VERY fickle when it comes to the concept that everyone’s an artist. The bar to being an artist is NON EXISTENT!!!!!! Do WHATEVER you want WHENEVER you want and do WHATEVER you want with it man. If some trend is fucking up your life cause suddenly you have to realize you’re not the only artist out there doing this and making good work, ADAPT TO IT!!!! If there is one job that is EXTREMELY adaptable it’s art cause you can literally change it up and if you’re privileged enough like those who complain about this type of trend, THEYRE CLEARLY PRIVILEGED ENOUGH TO KNOW JUST HOW TO WORK AROUND THIS!!!! NO one can just spend the rest of their lives making the same art over and over again and benefit from it mentally or financially. The fine art world is ever changing and it’s their own fault for being too stubborn in their practice to change it up and work around obstacles.
EXACTLY!!! ugh i love u you articulate queen. lack of adaptability and diversifying was going to kill your business eventually, so leave people alone lmao
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sure but keep it on the low so my partner doesn’t find out 👊😤🥰🤚
patricia -yinqish i’m absolutely SCREAMING 😭😌 my lips are sealed 🥳✌🏻
i am an artist myself and i love the fact everyone is trying to paint, what a lovely world we would have full of colour and happy people if everyone was painting, but here is the thing, your thoughts on artists being elitist and classist " spellings prob wrong" lol, but what you need to understand the artists are 95% of the time the lowest paid workers in society where the odd painting they sell it is the elitist buying it, that does not put the artists in the same category, i have to fund my art by working another job to make ends meet and all the artists i know are the same so i dont like being called elitist by someone who has no clue about art or what they are talking about, and i continue to make art because i love it not because i could join the elite some day and get rich from it because it wont happen. But as for your other point i agree the more people are painting the better, the art collectors and the ELITE will know the difference between crappy childlike efforts on ebay and real art so it wont harm the odd sale us artists get. and by the way the tik tok videos of people selling art on ebay are all scam bids, its rife on ebay.
Funniest Tik Tok i personally also work to be able to pursue an artistic career, but to even do that is a privilege. and i’m not saying artists with this kind of idea are trying to be rich, i’m saying that they’re favoring the rich over working class people, and that is their biggest flaw. The problem doesn’t lie within fellow middle class, it lies within the rich. Which you say yourself, they are able to easily tell when a painting is a dud. So if that’s the case, let’s just let everyone paint their paintings in peace 😌 i appreciate this comment tho! love the discussion
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The only factor I can think of that's been left out is that a lot of buyers also value the story behind the artist. Most people don't enjoy having unsolvable mysteries. It would drive me crazy to buy a piece of art and have no information about the artist. It's nice to wonder, but a much better talking point to know. Just my two cents.
I agree ALL art is real! But where I do agree with the other person is if it’s something you don’t want to do as work and they do.. it’s their income and passion etc so now it’s like if the market is so saturated with other people’s Tik Tok experiments.. then it does make it hard for people who want to do it..Not having a go btw! Just thinking about what they said and it must be frustrating!
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no worries! I love discussing it, not taking anything personally forsure! it definitely has to be frustrating if it's your only stream of revenue, but i think theyre losing a lot of their value by not trying to sell to the middle/working class. it's also just not a good idea to have only one revenue stream as a business, so overall I think the flooded market would essentially be a healthy lesson and would hopefully push the artists to look for alternatives. i was kinda aggressive with my response, but it was mainly because it broke my heart to see artists tearing people down, even though these people just seemed to be having fun, yknow?
Like it or not, without the rich no one would be buying your 250 painting...
without the rich, the middle class would be able to afford more art.
@@PatriciaHuffman What do you mean by middle class? I consider myself middle class but in no way can I possibly afford to shell out even 150 for a piece of art. Anyone who can afford to spend 150 or more is rich, part of the less than 1 percent on a global scale.
@@ggreen5943 yeah, if the wealth gap weren’t so severe, the middle class would have more wealth to redistribute back into the economy.
@@PatriciaHuffman I dunno about that.
@@ggreen5943 i mean, that’s quite literally the reality. no room to really disagree. middle/working class has been completely depleted.
SEEMS LIKE THERE IS MUCH FOR YOU TO LEARN. ALOT OF THINGS YOU SAID WERE VERY NIAVE.
this comment seems very encouraging and sweet in a weird way, like yes 🥺learning everyday and always trying to improve !! hope you are well and safe, friend 💜
all people saying there is no such thing like fake art just didnt understand ^^ ... rich people paying people understanding art for buy the art for them because they didnt know ... and noone would buy art like in the video what is worse then a 2 year old kid would do .... you cant compare this garbage to an artwork of monet ... if you do you just dont understand anything ... art is work if you dont put much work and love in it it will be shit ... but if you do it for very long time you can do good art fast
the art you made did not sell, not because of other rich people..
it was cuz of your art... it looked pretty bad. thanks.
btw, what movie was the clip? no credits.
my art is dog shit, but i’m not arguing about my art not selling, cliff
@@PatriciaHuffman I thought your argument was about wealthy buying famous artists work, not eBay artists.
@@PatriciaHuffman anyway keep trying, abstraction is tough, but it happens over time and resilience.
@@PatriciaHuffman okay, I get it.. you were mocking ebay artist complainers.
@@cliffdariff74 would love to be better with abstraction, thanks for the encouragement!
Abstract painters are con artists
aww cmon, dot. i'm not even an abstract artist and this hurt my feelings haha
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“The problem isn’t the art; the problem is the f#$&@¿# rich people”. Nailed it there, sister. That’s Capitalism in a nutshell.
You are so Beautiful. I'd love to ask you a question.. Are you dating anyone currently?
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