Excellent teacher thank you for the video brother. I've learned a lot watching you now I've got to do my rod and main bearings and oil pump my Detroits not wanting to hold enough oil pressure like 30 psi on a hot day in a hard pull... Hoping that will fix it if not might have to have it inframed
I hope you find the trouble. Any oil pressure problem should be in the pan area and should not need an in frame. Also better check the oil pressure from a port with a mechanical gauge first to be sure it's not a bad sensor.
Yep, but there's always something extra after a big job, but all the dirty work is done, I just have to fix the fan, it stays on now, I'll look into it tomorrow and then start cleaning up the inside.
I'll find it tomorrow, it's bound to be a dirty connection from one of the plugins I took off. I hope it's not the ecm, I never told it I was doing all of this work, with everything shut down nothing on the ecm should have changed, all the ecm knows is that I unplugged a few wires and 4 weeks later plugged them back in and never touched the key.
Actually this job, I don't remember getting sore, there was only 1 heavy part, the head, but I couldn't lift it by hand 300 lbs. although I did take it out of my car by hand alone but didn't lift it, the cam weighed about 50 so that's not too bad, cutting down a good size tree and chunking it up and loading it in the truck makes me sore, also cleaning up a big stump grinding job. The paint will help keep the motor clean and make it easier it find a leak if I get one and easier to do any more repairs.
Better watch that winter weight, your getting to the age when you can't get it back off without starving yourself. I don't get to eat much of anything that taste good anymore, or I'll swell up overnight. You know most older people who are heavy also have more health issues than those who keep their weight down. You don't look like you let yourself go too much though.
Sure I remember, tomorrow's video You'll hear it run, today's test drive went well, I went to the fuel stop and then to my job for a quick visit and then back home.
Did u paint the engine green because, i dont remember u mentioning that in any of your videos. I love the work u do . Keep up the good work. I can't thank u enough for putting up all the truck repair videos.
Yes I did use the Detroit diesel engine color, it's always a good idea to clean an engine or any unit that can leak after repairs so you can readily find the source of a new leak if it occurs, and the paint makes it easier to keep it clean. Thank You for following the videos and commenting.
Thanks once again for posting another informative video. I do have a question, I noticed the oil pump is gear driven and look likes driven off crank. How did you prime the pump??
I never opened up the pump so I knew it still had oil inside it, if I had opened it and cleaned and dried the gears in the pump I just would have poured a little oil in the outlet side of the pump and turned it backwards a couple turns to prime it. Thanks for asking, good question.
Thanks for the quick reply. I should have known you're smart enough not to loose prime on the pump. You in the mid-west right? I'm on the east coast N.H.
N.H. is one of only a couple of states I don't have a coffee cup from for my collection of cups from all the states and places of interest around the country, and that's because when I was driving OTR N.H. didn't have a truck stop on I-95
I thought the accent sound familiar, my first wife's father was for St. Louis Ill. Not a very long stretch of I95 in NH. I'm in the Upper Valley I prefer it to the Northern Mass area you refer to.
Yes, It's Ben. I'm looking at rebuilding my DD 12.7. Your video's have been a huge help in seeing it actually done. What was the down time for your rebuild? I did get the service Manual ordered off of eBay it should be in the next week. I'm trying to get my money right. But it's not going to be long before I have Pop and I, or a shop do it.
In my case the down time was 5 weeks, If I had warm, dry conditions to work in and didn't wait for the best prices and machine shop to do everything that they did, and the holidays etc. I could have done it in less than a week. You need to make sure you can have all the special tools that I used for that job, I made most of mine in my shop. I did use regular oil, Rotella 15-40
Thank you very much for the information, and taking the time for the questions I have. We are looking for some of the tools now. I've still have not made my mind up to tackle this or not. I have a couple other issues, this year has not been good for me. Lengthy down time would not be good. I have already been told the Jake's will need rebuilding and parts are $1,500. I'm looking at pricing new ones now.
Hey Gordon, I'm hoping that my comment on a 1 year old video doesn't go unnoticed! What material is your oil pan made of? I plan to replace my gasket but now I am worried that maybe I have a plastic pan and the entire pan may need to be replaced. Any thoughts on this? Thanks for making great videos!
I think this series of videos is about 7 years old now. The oil pan on my truck is made of some sort of composite material, it's a lot tougher than most regular plastic materials but can still crack if it hits something, a crack can still be repaired if that happens.
Hey thanks Gordon. I believe mine is also a composite. I don't know if mine is cracked, but it sure does leak. I didn't know they made composite ones until recently. I'll have to get under there and look at it. I thought it was aluminum! My bus is a 2002 MCI.
Hey that's great news Gordon. She's up and running!!! Did she fire right up, Well after you got her primed? Also are you going to put a few hundred miles on the motor before you hitch her up? Curious
I just cranked on the starter nonstop for about 20 - 30 seconds and it started, I ran it today for about 50 miles bobtail, the break in directions that came with the rebuild kit said to run it with a moderate load for an hour at about 75% max rpm but that was not an option, so I just did what I did. I'll go back to work Monday.
I don't use a torque wrench on pan bolts. If you want to use one you can search online for standard torque for what ever bolt size you want, example, 5/16" would be about 25 - 30 ft. lbs. 3/8" 30 - 40 and 7/16" 50 - 65 etc.
What about the glue? I've been told only to apply some RTV glue in the front and back on the pan. Sorry I see you were talking about the seams at the four corners so disregard.
glad to hear that you're up and running
Thanks.
Excellent teacher thank you for the video brother. I've learned a lot watching you now I've got to do my rod and main bearings and oil pump my Detroits not wanting to hold enough oil pressure like 30 psi on a hot day in a hard pull... Hoping that will fix it if not might have to have it inframed
I hope you find the trouble. Any oil pressure problem should be in the pan area and should not need an in frame. Also better check the oil pressure from a port with a mechanical gauge first to be sure it's not a bad sensor.
Good thing you got it back together before it got stupid cold again.
Yep, but there's always something extra after a big job, but all the dirty work is done, I just have to fix the fan, it stays on now, I'll look into it tomorrow and then start cleaning up the inside.
I hope the ecm is not going bad, that's a symptom. also check your ac pressure switch & fan solenoid.
I'll find it tomorrow, it's bound to be a dirty connection from one of the plugins I took off. I hope it's not the ecm, I never told it I was doing all of this work, with everything shut down nothing on the ecm should have changed, all the ecm knows is that I unplugged a few wires and 4 weeks later plugged them back in and never touched the key.
It was my plan to check the plugins at the ac and eng temp switches first.
UA-cam notifications never let me know you responded! The ecm's just go bad, some say moisture the guys who rebuild them say they are just garbage.
That paint job looks great! You must have some sore muscles at the end of the day climbing around that motor in all kinds of weird positions.
Actually this job, I don't remember getting sore, there was only 1 heavy part, the head, but I couldn't lift it by hand 300 lbs. although I did take it out of my car by hand alone but didn't lift it, the cam weighed about 50 so that's not too bad, cutting down a good size tree and chunking it up and loading it in the truck makes me sore, also cleaning up a big stump grinding job. The paint will help keep the motor clean and make it easier it find a leak if I get one and easier to do any more repairs.
Way to stay in Shape Gordon. I've put on my winter weight about this time of the year. :-(
Better watch that winter weight, your getting to the age when you can't get it back off without starving yourself. I don't get to eat much of anything that taste good anymore, or I'll swell up overnight. You know most older people who are heavy also have more health issues than those who keep their weight down. You don't look like you let yourself go too much though.
We're there gaskets to the oil pan. I get both answers lol.
Gordon you might be old enough to remember the Brylcream advertisement "A little dab will do you" Can't wait to hear her fire up.
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Sure I remember, tomorrow's video You'll hear it run, today's test drive went well, I went to the fuel stop and then to my job for a quick visit and then back home.
Hi, great video. Did you have to do any adjustments to the oil pump installing it back to the crank?
Nice work !
Did u paint the engine green because, i dont remember u mentioning that in any of your videos. I love the work u do . Keep up the good work. I can't thank u enough for putting up all the truck repair videos.
Yes I did use the Detroit diesel engine color, it's always a good idea to clean an engine or any unit that can leak after repairs so you can readily find the source of a new leak if it occurs, and the paint makes it easier to keep it clean. Thank You for following the videos and commenting.
@@GordonRobertsonDIY Smart.. didn’t think about that
Thanks once again for posting another informative video. I do have a question, I noticed the oil pump is gear driven and look likes driven off crank. How did you prime the pump??
I never opened up the pump so I knew it still had oil inside it, if I had opened it and cleaned and dried the gears in the pump I just would have poured a little oil in the outlet side of the pump and turned it backwards a couple turns to prime it. Thanks for asking, good question.
Thanks for the quick reply. I should have known you're smart enough not to loose prime on the pump. You in the mid-west right? I'm on the east coast N.H.
Yes, in Illinois near St. Louis, Missouri.
N.H. is one of only a couple of states I don't have a coffee cup from for my collection of cups from all the states and places of interest around the country, and that's because when I was driving OTR N.H. didn't have a truck stop on I-95
I thought the accent sound familiar, my first wife's father was for St. Louis Ill. Not a very long stretch of I95 in NH. I'm in the Upper Valley I prefer it to the Northern Mass area you refer to.
Where do you get the gasket that is not continuous?
thanks for all the pointers.
Thank You for following the series Ben. I guess that's your name?
Yes, It's Ben. I'm looking at rebuilding my DD 12.7. Your video's have been a huge help in seeing it actually done. What was the down time for your rebuild? I did get the service Manual ordered off of eBay it should be in the next week. I'm trying to get my money right. But it's not going to be long before I have Pop and I, or a shop do it.
In my case the down time was 5 weeks, If I had warm, dry conditions to work in and didn't wait for the best prices and machine shop to do everything that they did, and the holidays etc. I could have done it in less than a week. You need to make sure you can have all the special tools that I used for that job, I made most of mine in my shop. I did use regular oil, Rotella 15-40
Thank you very much for the information, and taking the time for the questions I have. We are looking for some of the tools now. I've still have not made my mind up to tackle this or not. I have a couple other issues, this year has not been good for me. Lengthy down time would not be good. I have already been told the Jake's will need rebuilding and parts are $1,500. I'm looking at pricing new ones now.
The Jakes can be done at another time, they're not a necessity, also there is a chapter in the shop manual for doing that yourself.
Hey Gordon, I'm hoping that my comment on a 1 year old video doesn't go unnoticed! What material is your oil pan made of? I plan to replace my gasket but now I am worried that maybe I have a plastic pan and the entire pan may need to be replaced. Any thoughts on this? Thanks for making great videos!
I think this series of videos is about 7 years old now. The oil pan on my truck is made of some sort of composite material, it's a lot tougher than most regular plastic materials but can still crack if it hits something, a crack can still be repaired if that happens.
Hey thanks Gordon. I believe mine is also a composite. I don't know if mine is cracked, but it sure does leak. I didn't know they made composite ones until recently. I'll have to get under there and look at it. I thought it was aluminum! My bus is a 2002 MCI.
as the saying goes if it aint leaking oil it aint a detroit
Hey that's great news Gordon. She's up and running!!! Did she fire right up, Well after you got her primed? Also are you going to put a few hundred miles on the motor before you hitch her up? Curious
I just cranked on the starter nonstop for about 20 - 30 seconds and it started, I ran it today for about 50 miles bobtail, the break in directions that came with the rebuild kit said to run it with a moderate load for an hour at about 75% max rpm but that was not an option, so I just did what I did. I'll go back to work Monday.
Just a shot in the dark...what state are you in and if you’re close to me would you be willing to help me with my inframe???
I live in Illinois. I don't have time to do a job like that, sorry.
Thx much anyway!!!
I always stretch it out before I put it in.
Thanks for watching.
hey Gordon, what's the torque on the pan bolts?
I don't use a torque wrench on pan bolts. If you want to use one you can search online for standard torque for what ever bolt size you want, example, 5/16" would be about 25 - 30 ft. lbs. 3/8" 30 - 40 and 7/16" 50 - 65 etc.
@@GordonRobertsonDIY thank you Sir
What about the glue? I've been told only to apply some RTV glue in the front and back on the pan. Sorry I see you were talking about the seams at the four corners so disregard.
Thanks for watching.
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will you put it on a dyno?
No, no money for extras.
New engine. Old oil filter. Seems legit.
I pefer that gasket than a two piece cat puzzle gasket