Heeltoe's Take On Alloy Crank Pulleys for Honda/Acura Engines

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  • Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
  • Aluminium crank pulleys have been a popular upgrade for tuners for ages. Today, there is still a lot of hay made about the detrimental effects of billet crank pulleys on Honda engines because of removing a mystical item called a "harmonic balancer." Heeltoe's contention is that while harmonic dampers and balancers are important on many engines, Honda engines by-and-large aren't equipped with them. Run your billet crank pulley with confidence and enjoy the revs!

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  • @jamesj.litteriojr.433
    @jamesj.litteriojr.433 3 роки тому +12

    Very well explained!!!!! My lightweight crank pulley made a definite difference with no issues and I redline it multiple times a night since I only drive it once or twice a week. "A Redline A Day Keeps The Carbon Away And The Mechanic At Bay" :)

  • @ayowser01
    @ayowser01 5 років тому +32

    Adding lightweight/under drive pulleys really added response to the engine. It's noticeably quicker to acceletate, especially when rev-match/heel-toe shifting.

    • @jimhiscott2918
      @jimhiscott2918 4 роки тому +1

      And your probably still running the stock flywheel right. Dont use an aluminum pulley. It will eventually destroy your oil pump and crank bearings!

    • @HondaAccordPerformance
      @HondaAccordPerformance 4 роки тому +5

      I used a lightweight underdrive pulley on my 3000gt for 10 years zero issues. I’ve used an underdrive pulley on my Trailblazer ss for 30k miles zero issues.

    • @jimhiscott2918
      @jimhiscott2918 4 роки тому +1

      @@HondaAccordPerformance Excellent. We were discussing Honda engines. Mainly the b series where the crankshaft runs through the oil pump.

    • @HondaAccordPerformance
      @HondaAccordPerformance 4 роки тому +2

      @@jimhiscott2918 The only issues with lightweight pullies I’ve seen on 3000gts are twin turbos making north of 500awhp at that point you wanna keep the stock heavy balancer because with a lightweight pulley it can cause the crank to flex, weaken and snap with higher horsepower applications.

    • @نايف-ع3ن7ك
      @نايف-ع3ن7ك 8 місяців тому

      If you have manual transmission you should try lightweight flywheel it will change the car 😂😂

  • @jerzeyonlyone
    @jerzeyonlyone 4 роки тому +12

    And this is why I buy with confidence with heeltoe 👌🏽

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks so much! #HTinyourcorner

  • @jrlude_
    @jrlude_ 2 роки тому +8

    Been running a lightweight pulley (VMS) on my h23a vtec swapped (Honda Prelude). 60,000 miles going strong no issues.
    Thank you for this video however, its very reassuring!

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  2 роки тому +3

      Love Honda engines! Free the revs!

    • @yeeztodge6654
      @yeeztodge6654 2 роки тому

      I'm looking to get that pulley too, did u change the key way aswell?

    • @jrlude_
      @jrlude_ 2 роки тому +1

      @@yeeztodge6654 nope same key!!

    • @jrlude_
      @jrlude_ 2 роки тому +1

      @@yeeztodge6654 though I suggest buying a new key it's 10 dollars...

    • @big_lu32
      @big_lu32 Рік тому

      Did you run that crank pulley with the balance shaft delete?

  • @coachgomes
    @coachgomes 2 місяці тому +1

    So, I've read and heard that a light weight pulley gives the motor 5 to 6 more horse power....?
    Your video was very good, and very technical. Thank you for such details and information.
    So, theoretically the motor will not have to work as hard, do you think there will be a slight improvement in gasoline milage... ??

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  Місяць тому +1

      Technically there could be but honestly I would not upgrade with the expectation of mileage increase.

  • @danielcalquinhas447
    @danielcalquinhas447 3 роки тому +10

    The CTR N1 Pulley is a perfect example. If Honda can run a B16b at 9500rpm for 24 Hours straight you guys really think its not safe for your commute to the grocery store? Common guys LOL

  • @shadygrady80gaming
    @shadygrady80gaming 6 років тому +2

    I appreciate the video, very informative. just bought a Hashimoto underdrive pulley and was searching to bust a rumour before I busted my B16A.. Thank you again

  • @Aryck143
    @Aryck143 6 років тому +6

    Nice video Marcus! Just got my underdrive and idler installed. Engine is revving better now :)

    • @socomelite1
      @socomelite1 3 роки тому

      But does the engine have any more pull under load? Not just in neutral?

    • @vanessayoga7522
      @vanessayoga7522 2 роки тому

      Can you provide serpentine belt part # used with Underdrive pulley , thank you

  • @aoescool
    @aoescool 6 років тому +4

    ive used unorthodox on acura cl3.0 and just last week i put one on my v6 8th gen accord.. awesome upgrade

    • @popanda3652
      @popanda3652 5 років тому +1

      What else have you done to that 8th gen accord? I have one and am looking for a decent set of boltons before i get it tuned

    • @brandonneves4144
      @brandonneves4144 5 років тому

      @@popanda3652 Join the facebook group "8th Gen Honda Accord" and you'll see plenty of peoples builds, including mine. All the info you'd ever need to know.

    • @aoescool
      @aoescool 3 роки тому

      @@popanda3652 oh sorry I didn't see this message till now sorry lol.. but yeah @brandon neves his car is really nice.. hopefully you joined the 8th gen group.. im Alex Edwards on there

    • @popanda3652
      @popanda3652 3 роки тому

      @@aoescool dont worry about it man. Drunk driver totaled it and insurance said theyd give me 3k for it so i couldnt afford a new one. I drive a 2001 acura tl now and am in the process of of installing a rear mount turbo. Im in the 8th gen group still though cuz i still believe the platform will be the next b or k series once people realize how easy it is to make power with the j series from that gen. I apreciate the reply nonetheless tho :)

  • @matthewvalentine5848
    @matthewvalentine5848 4 роки тому +9

    I love my light weight crank pulley on my 06 v6 accord

    • @abrahamlopez1635
      @abrahamlopez1635 4 роки тому +2

      what pulley did you buy? Does it make a difference? I read that this type of pulley has an ac problem

    • @midnightmystery544
      @midnightmystery544 4 роки тому

      Strange question, but did it make the steering a little heavier?

  • @AndresGarcia-ep1pz
    @AndresGarcia-ep1pz 3 роки тому +1

    Good vid Marcus. What pulley have you ran in your tsx?

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 роки тому

      Unorthodox 3-piece underdrive kit.

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 роки тому +2

      It's still on there, been on there for like a decade now! haha

  • @assassin_asa
    @assassin_asa 4 роки тому +3

    Harmonic damper/balancer I do believe we mechanics just call it a harmonic balancer because its a combo and it flows off the tongue a little better. Its universally agreed that its 'the thing at the end of the crank that drives the serpentine belt'

    • @assassin_asa
      @assassin_asa 4 роки тому +1

      Also, working for an engine manufacturer, the names are all used interchangeably

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 роки тому +3

      But you see, they shouldn't be used interchangeably because they do mean different things.

  • @sebestiensoliz8831
    @sebestiensoliz8831 Місяць тому

    I have a 2006 Acura MDX 3.5L. I'm getting ready to change the Timing belt. Which Crank Pulley would you recommend?

  • @RobertoGarcia-ni8vl
    @RobertoGarcia-ni8vl 5 років тому +2

    Great professional communication. I appreciate your video.

  • @bjjerread153
    @bjjerread153 3 роки тому +2

    Well, you just sold a product to me!! I'll be buying one for my D series soon!!! Thanks 😊

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 роки тому

      Bad ass! Look us up when ready!

  • @EB240
    @EB240 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks so much! ive been wondering about these, great information!

  • @patrickminor2756
    @patrickminor2756 Рік тому

    Just got my Unorthodox Racing pulley gonna get an install done along with a borla exhaust system on 10 gen 2.0 civic

  • @alvarooliveira1791
    @alvarooliveira1791 4 роки тому +1

    Just subscribed, what an AWESOME video!!!
    greetings from São Paulo mate!

  • @Sublimelime7
    @Sublimelime7 4 роки тому

    Awesome video! i have A/C and PS delete on my 97 Type R and was worried that by switching to a single crank pulley would affect my engine

    • @haydenhoughtalen1244
      @haydenhoughtalen1244 2 роки тому

      You won’t be the first to find out👀 good luck this is bad news for a high revving engine

  • @CoolFrijolez
    @CoolFrijolez 4 роки тому

    My pulley separated from the rubber ring today on my stock TL-S , you think it messed up anything in the engine? Definitely going to upgrade to a lighter pulley. Thanks for this informative video.

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  4 роки тому +1

      No I do not think this messed up your engine at all. We have replacement pulleys in stock at heeltoeauto.com!

    • @CoolFrijolez
      @CoolFrijolez 4 роки тому

      HeeltoeAuto I definitely will be purchasing one from you guys thank you!

  • @David-nb2bc
    @David-nb2bc 2 роки тому +1

    I do endurance racing and would the light weight pulley affect the reliability of the K24 engine that are redline for 8 hours a day for an race weekend of about 25 hours total? I already have a lightweight steel flywheel.

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  2 роки тому

      Without testing it is hard to say for certain. My opinion is, if it is a standard tolerance engine, something off the Honda factory line, it would be fine. If the engine is highly tuned, blueprinted, boosted or otherwise a critical build I would more likely recommend a Fluidampr or ATI unit, which we sell at Heeltoe.

  • @sethallison5682
    @sethallison5682 3 роки тому +5

    Didn’t Honda even sell an oem optional lightweight crank pulley for the original CTR with the b16b? If these were so bad I doubt Honda would sell them from their parts department.

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 роки тому +4

      Yes they did as a matter of fact, the N1 CTR pulley. We actually just got a shipment of five from Japan right now :)

  • @Gavvideu2
    @Gavvideu2 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the info!

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 роки тому

      You bet! #HTinyourcorner!

  • @adibz959
    @adibz959 3 роки тому

    Great explanation! I just want to ask, What is your opinion on using lightweight pulley on undersquare engine. Does it vibrate a lot? Planning on adding these on my car

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 роки тому

      Thanks for watching! What engine are you installing on?

    • @adibz959
      @adibz959 3 роки тому

      @@Heeltoe. 2NR-VE, a Daihatsu variant of Toyota 2NR-FE

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 роки тому

      @@adibz959 I am sorry I am not familiar with that engine so I am not sure I can comment on it reliably.

  • @tommyhajimoto6968
    @tommyhajimoto6968 4 місяці тому

    Is the k24 crank pulley the same weight as the K20 crank pulley? I have a 04 RSX type S, I'm curious about the weight, I can't find anything on it.

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  Місяць тому

      Good question. Overall I believe they are pretty close in the same, or very similar at least.

  • @nicehashlogin9858
    @nicehashlogin9858 3 дні тому

    I have a d16z6 will this be ok for that? D Series.

  • @ryanosbourne9945
    @ryanosbourne9945 5 років тому +3

    I'm saving up to get this and the clutch release system master and slave cylinder for my 2013 V6 coupe!

    • @armancha23
      @armancha23 3 роки тому

      I'm thinking of doing those with shifter bushings at the same time also. Any update?

    • @ryanosbourne9945
      @ryanosbourne9945 3 роки тому

      @@armancha23 Nothing yet. I'm still doing reading, but across the forums the guys who have done this already claim that it's a problem free upgrade.

  • @hydrocarbon82
    @hydrocarbon82 2 роки тому

    I'll try with a nicer comment so this doesn't disappear too: you don't know what you're talking about here.
    If you do an actual simulation of forces, you find out an inline-4 has fairly nasty 2nd order harmonics. It's a up-down rocking of the crankshaft ends. On a B/D/H engine with an oil pump gear riding on the crank, this can be DEADLY. Coyote V8's offer great examples of similar 2nd order harmonics shattering crank-driven pumps when they are under-dampened (particularly with a supercharger reducing it's damping power).
    K-series use chain-driven pumps so it's less of an issue. It still imparts much heavier loads on the outer-most main bearings with an undampened pulley. Also accessories like AC & PS add to the dampening effect, so motor with them deleted need even more dampening. Same for engines with lower rod-stroke ratios or higher redlines - they need more.

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  2 роки тому +3

      Given that the majority of engines we deal with are K and J and they all have the extra accessories you are talking about, you are supporting the point of the video.
      But in reality, the people this video is intended for are the vast majority of street-driven engines without power adders and not having the abuse of a racecar. Myself included, ZERO people in DECADES have mentioned to me once any issues whatsoever using a lightweight pulley.
      Model it all you want, the reality is, telling the world doomsday stories of grenading engines is largely a lie.

  • @chasemcclary8861
    @chasemcclary8861 3 роки тому +2

    for the crank pully isn't it bad to not have a vibration dampener?

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 роки тому

      We address this concern in the video! Give it a watch and let us know if you have any more questions.

    • @nobodynoone2500
      @nobodynoone2500 3 роки тому +1

      It is, this guy is a shill.

  • @KentBrakewell
    @KentBrakewell 5 років тому

    Awesome video, very knowledgeable and complete!

  • @lrod312
    @lrod312 4 роки тому +3

    Most Honda/Acura engines, especially B, K and J series engines are balanced internally, and NOT via the crank pulley. Most '80s V8 and V6 engines are by and large balanced externally though, which is where I think a lot of the confusion comes from.

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 роки тому +1

      It's amazing how lost people are on this topic. Even really smart people just spread misinformation.

    • @nobodynoone2500
      @nobodynoone2500 3 роки тому

      While true, ALL honda engines come stock with harmonic dampers.

  • @ThePwak007
    @ThePwak007 4 роки тому +3

    Nooo I already did my timing belt job and didn't even know this existed at the time...

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  4 роки тому +1

      No problem! This is a really simple part to install, very little repeat work involved with the T-belt!

  • @LilasTools
    @LilasTools 3 роки тому +1

    Love the review, I learned a lot thank you!

  • @ganzonomy
    @ganzonomy 3 роки тому +1

    Will the lightweight pulley be okay in a daily driver that I want a bit more life from? 2013 Accord EX-L V6 sedan.
    Thanks!
    Jason

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 роки тому

      Yes absolutely it is perfectly good for a daily driver.

  • @emmanuelalonso612
    @emmanuelalonso612 5 років тому +1

    Awesome video, so my question is, there going to be a problems if I want to install a lighter flywheel?

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  5 років тому +2

      No, I don't believe there would be at all.

  • @Lifeofshawnyg
    @Lifeofshawnyg Рік тому

    I have a 06 vq35de and im wondering wether i should run a lightweight pullry or fluid damper idk if my car comes stock with damper or if i need it what do you guys think

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  Рік тому

      We aren't familiar enough with that engine to say for sure.

  • @0371998
    @0371998 6 років тому

    you remarked that the crankshaft pulley of ralcorz has no black hub ! Is it a problem ?

  • @mayjahjay2297
    @mayjahjay2297 2 роки тому

    would this be the same as changing out to a lighter flywheel ? would a lighter flywheel be required at the same time. ive heard reports saying a lighter flywheels puts the car in limp, will the lighter pulley do the same as well ?

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  2 роки тому +1

      Performance-wise yes the impact is the same. Lighter mass on the crank means faster revving and better acceleration. And sometimes yes people will say that the light flywheel is somehow not good for the engine.
      The "limp" mode is not a real thing, not in the Honda range. Some Hondas and Acuras with a lighter flywheel will get a check-engine light (not the same thing as "limp mode"). This is because the system in these cars that monitors engine misfires will detect minimal changes in the crankshaft speed that makes the system think the engine is misfiring. There isn't any performance impact to this light, but it is something annoying and you want if off. Many people use engine tuners to disable misfire detection to resolve it.

  • @Sheenhunnit
    @Sheenhunnit 2 роки тому

    So I have a Acura integra with the stock b18b1 could that engine be fine with a light weight pulley

  • @juniorcastro1665
    @juniorcastro1665 4 роки тому

    I purchased the Buddy Club P1 Crank Pulley Kit, K-Series Applications (K20, K24), BC05-P1P for my 09 TSX from you. My mechanic was telling me that if we install it, the engine will make a lot of noise after. Is that true? Regardless of the answer, do you have a video or sound clip? If the engine will be very loud and sound like an older model Civic, I don't want it lol.

    • @Jaydogg209
      @Jaydogg209 4 роки тому

      No it doesn't change the sound. Just make sure you buy a new crank bolt for your model because mine bent slightly on the top part of the bolt (not the threads) this is because u have to use a torch to remove and sometimes the bolt gets damaged. Better to have a brand new bolt to reinstall.

  • @FortyMikeMelodies
    @FortyMikeMelodies 5 років тому +4

    i'd love to have a greater throttle response in my 04 rsx type s, just seems like when rev matching with my sparco pedals you almost have to give it a double tap on the gas instead of one.

  • @keltalon
    @keltalon 5 років тому +4

    Heeltoe you guys are very well respected what you say I trust! thanks for taking the time to make this video. A lot of us are in your corner as well.
    I get all my parts from these guys and they always deliver! Stay tune for more out of this j-series accord
    ua-cam.com/video/Y5cf6FIi-m8/v-deo.html

  • @ArnavMazumder9
    @ArnavMazumder9 4 роки тому +2

    I understand that lightweight pulleys would play well with manual as upgrades. But how about cars with the auto trans? Such as the J35Z2 and not J35Z3?

  • @TrippyWoodStock
    @TrippyWoodStock 2 роки тому

    Curious how many pulleys I could swap for a Lightweight/UR pulley on my k24z3 motor on my 2.4 2010 accord? Looking into swapping the oem for lighter ones if available but not sure how many replacement pulleys I’d need

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  2 роки тому

      We have a 2-pulley kit with belt here for you: www.heeltoeauto.com/pulley-system/buddy-club-p1-crank-pulley-kit-2pc-honda-accord-2008-12-14-i-4-k24z3-w/ac-bc05-p1pk24z3-a.html

  • @camerona3290
    @camerona3290 2 роки тому

    What are the part numbers for the CU2? Mainly the crank pulleys

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  2 роки тому +1

      These are on a bit of a hiatus at the time.

  • @danielcalquinhas447
    @danielcalquinhas447 3 роки тому +3

    Ive run lightweight aluminum crank pulleys on three engines all of them daily driven to over 8000rpm including -30 Canadian winters....never had engine failure lmao b16a2 b18c1 k20z3

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 роки тому

      It's a total myth, right? Do you do any oil tests?

    • @danielcalquinhas447
      @danielcalquinhas447 3 роки тому

      @@Heeltoe. This myth was originally spread because American cars from the 1950s-1970s were externally balanced with the crank pulley as a damper. When racers would replace that pulley to something lighter the motors would shake apart. This is not the case with Honda motors because they are internally balanced, I dont see why this is so difficult for the internet to understand.

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 роки тому

      @@danielcalquinhas447 likewise, the secondary reasoning for not changing this part is the risk of stress fractures due to repeated flexing of the crankshaft under powerstrokes. Weaker crankshafts will fatigue and fail if the harmonic vibration from this oscillation isn't dampened. Honda makes no such flexy crankshafts. The only reason to run a racing damper on a Honda engine is under very high load high stress conditions.

  • @drsmooooovedre7819
    @drsmooooovedre7819 2 роки тому

    I have a 2014 Honda Accord Sport Sedan 2.4L, do you sell a lightweight pulley for my vehicle?

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  2 роки тому

      Sorry we do not. That engine has so little support :/

  • @misunderstoodvtec8299
    @misunderstoodvtec8299 Рік тому

    Hi mate I've just watched your video can I use the pulleys on a f20b5 sohc engine mean ing the f series engine any information will be appreciated 😊

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  Рік тому +1

      I don't know of a pulley for a SOHC F-series.

  • @cattran3960
    @cattran3960 2 роки тому

    I need one for the b20b will the type r n1 work on non vtec engines what about vms pulleys? They don’t really make LW PULLEYS for b20 in general or all b series pulley the same I just want a little more pep in my step lol 😂 please help a brother out!

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  2 роки тому

      It will! I have a few in stock in fact.

  • @breakbeats93
    @breakbeats93 3 роки тому

    @Heeltoe what is the song called? 0:20 - 4:10 thank you! Thank you for the knowledge

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 роки тому

      Great question, I am sorry I don't have the answer, our editor manages that and we don't have that info here.

    • @xenonsaccord4447
      @xenonsaccord4447 2 роки тому

      Hey mate, I found it from another video: ua-cam.com/video/b6jK2t3lcRs/v-deo.html

  • @nicselectronics81
    @nicselectronics81 4 роки тому +1

    Can't wait to put my OBX set on my K24

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 роки тому +2

      This does help with that initial resonse! Unfortunately it's just a little more pep, not a huge difference.

  • @Darksyne
    @Darksyne 5 років тому +1

    Is this a worthwhile upgrade for Honda V6 Motors? I have a TL That still runs strong and I've been looking into getting one of these the next time I do a timing belt service on it. Are they also a reliable performance upgrade?

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  5 років тому

      Absolutely. Hightly recommended on your j-series!

  • @Ieaker
    @Ieaker 11 місяців тому

    is this worth doing on my 2005 tsx 5AT?

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  11 місяців тому

      Yeah! It adds throttle response.

  • @ronaldredlerjr3411
    @ronaldredlerjr3411 4 роки тому +2

    Is the stock oem lightweight pulley worth getting

  • @snowleopard4689
    @snowleopard4689 4 роки тому

    @HeeltoeAuto At 4:15, on the lightweight pulley there are 4 distinct 'marks' along the outside diameter. Are those timing marks that are also present on the factory pulley in the same location relative to the hub key?

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 роки тому

      Yes those are timing marks.

  • @jdmcivilization5085
    @jdmcivilization5085 Місяць тому

    My question rite is does it get better mpg?

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  Місяць тому +1

      Really not noticeable to be honest.

  • @malx7756
    @malx7756 3 роки тому

    Would my 04 TL based need a tune after installing(m/t)? Is there more than one pully that can be upgraded?
    Just received my short shift kit and high-flow third cat. Hoping to install soon!

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 роки тому +1

      Not at all no, this part does not require recalibration of the ECU. We offer the crank and tensioner pulleys for the TL J-Series.

  • @jimhiscott2918
    @jimhiscott2918 4 роки тому +2

    Where the hell did you get your information??? Its not a mith. If you run an aluminum pulley on a Honda B series performance engine you risk the chance of having oil pump failure DON'T DO IT. Extremely discouraged on Honda B, D & K series engines.

    • @jimhiscott2918
      @jimhiscott2918 4 роки тому

      @Flash Jones The rubber in oem crank pulleys and in very expensive after market race pulleys is there to absorb harmonic vibrations. With no rubber there is nothing to take up these vibrations except for your oil pump and the crank bearings closest to the pulley. Look on any serious race engine builders motor and you will 100% of the time find a rubber dampened pulley. Especially with us B series Honda engine builders where the crank runs through the oil pump it is imperative to run a very well dampened pulley! I just spent $6000 building another 650hp boosted B series long block and forked out another $365 for a race dampened crank pulley with a smile because i know what will happen if I don't! Again, avoid non dampened or any plane aluminum pulleys!

    • @jimhiscott2918
      @jimhiscott2918 4 роки тому +1

      @Flash Jones Got to love that vtec👍. Look at the Honda OEM TypeR N1 pulley/damper. It is a single belt pulley that is "underdriven" and its ⅓ the weight of a standard oem pulley. I have ran this pulley with great success on many B series. Honda oem Pn#13811-PCT-000 This is a very nice pulley I think you may be interested in.

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 роки тому

      Jim are you saying that the CTR N1 pulley is okay to use but an aluminum one is not?

    • @nobodynoone2500
      @nobodynoone2500 3 роки тому

      This 100%, ALL HONDAS COME STOCK WITH HARMONIC DAMPERS. They are internally balanced, but that is not the same.

  • @deathstalker176
    @deathstalker176 5 років тому

    I have a question make fun of me if you want but I’m being very careful on what I do to my car. I just bought a light weight crankshaft pulley for my Acura rsx 2006 base model automatic. I hear a lot of mix feed back from it saying it destroy my car and others say it ran fine like nothing was done to it. I need help on if it’s safe to put on or don’t do it.

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  5 років тому +1

      Gavin we appreciate your concern, the video was made for you to get our opinions on it. In short, you'll be fine. Got ahead an install it and don't worry about the scary stories.

    • @deathstalker176
      @deathstalker176 5 років тому

      HeeltoeAuto what should I expect to get out of this light weight crankshaft? I’ve heard better acceleration but no hp gain, some said 3 to 4hp gain and some say nothing it’s just nice to look at

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  5 років тому

      @@deathstalker176 The lighter weight of the pulley reduces the power needed to spin the engine. The revs should be a little more responsive and faster revving. It's not a big hp gain but part of a good performance package for a tuner. Fact: faster acceleration means more HP. So whoever said no power gain isn't really stating facts. it's not just a pretty part. It's effective. How could the car accelerate better but not have more power? that doesn't make sense.

  • @devoncanada2
    @devoncanada2 6 років тому +1

    What belt would you run on the unorthodox pulleys for the 07 tsx? 🙂

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  6 років тому +1

      We have replacement belts for underdrive systems on those cars on the Heeltoe site. Check it out there!

    • @jimhiscott2918
      @jimhiscott2918 4 роки тому

      DO NOT RUN A ALUMINUM PULLEY!!!!

    • @devoncanada2
      @devoncanada2 4 роки тому +1

      @@jimhiscott2918 no worries bro lol still running my oem pulley. Spent the money in more important things

    • @jimhiscott2918
      @jimhiscott2918 4 роки тому

      @@devoncanada2 Get a Honda OEM N1 typeR pulley. Its a great damper for less then $100. Only 1.8 pounds and made by Honda! Its also got a slight underdrive to it. Been running mine for 3 years on my 650hp LS Vtec. No oil pump issues to date

    • @devoncanada2
      @devoncanada2 4 роки тому +1

      @@jimhiscott2918 my stock pulley is perfect for what i have so far. I got a ported type s pump, 50 degree vtc, rdx injectors, ported rrc, and a few other goodies 💪

  • @automattic4202
    @automattic4202 Рік тому

    What set will work on my 08 accord..k24z3

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  Рік тому +1

      We have Buddy Club pulley sets for the 08-12 Accord yes: www.heeltoeauto.com/pulley-system/buddy-club-p1-crank-pulley-kit-2pc-honda-accord-2008-12-14-i-4-k24z3-w/ac-bc05-p1pk24z3-a.html

    • @automattic4202
      @automattic4202 Рік тому

      @@Heeltoe. yeah I seen that one was more curious if the one for the tsx bc I want the ps one as well…just wasn’t sure if it would work bc the tsx has electric ps

    • @automattic4202
      @automattic4202 Рік тому

      @@Heeltoe. awesome site though just wish the least desirable motor didn’t come in my favorite Honda 😂😂 support on the 8th gen 2.4 is few and far

  • @musicorporation1054
    @musicorporation1054 3 роки тому

    Thank you so much !!!!

  • @davidlunsford6155
    @davidlunsford6155 4 роки тому

    What about a 2015 VW beetle. Automatic, gen 3 tsi 1.8t. would a light crank pulley or under drive pulley, which is what I'd like to do. Would this be able to work for it?

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  4 роки тому

      I can't really comment, we don't know enough about Volkswagen engines. Mostly just speaking about Honda engines here.

  • @user-hh4hc2lt6e
    @user-hh4hc2lt6e 2 роки тому +1

    I think a lightweight flywheel with a ati damper is better

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  2 роки тому

      A light flywheel is awesome. The type of damper you run...it depends on the setup I think.

  • @streetsofaz
    @streetsofaz 4 роки тому +1

    So what's the lightest pulleys brand can I buy

    • @jimhiscott2918
      @jimhiscott2918 4 роки тому

      None if them!!!!

    • @Macfrugal_
      @Macfrugal_ 3 роки тому

      Unorthodox racing

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 роки тому +1

      Jim that's kind of an odd comment, of course one of them is going to be lightest. just because you might not agree with somebody buying a light pulley doesn't mean that one of them isn't the lightest out of the rest.

  • @shawnstreeter3474
    @shawnstreeter3474 4 роки тому +1

    Can I use the stock belt or do I need a certain belt?

    • @Macfrugal_
      @Macfrugal_ 3 роки тому +2

      Depends on the size of your pulley, if using an underdrive pulley you will need to size your belts accordingly

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 роки тому

      A stock diameter probably uses a stock size belt, Heeltoe offers appropriately sized belts for underdrive, smaller diameter pulleys.

  • @matthewscarpetta
    @matthewscarpetta 3 роки тому

    is an aluminum pulley safe for a SOHC D16A6 with a mild build? i'm reading that it can make your engine vibrate to death!

  • @VIP854
    @VIP854 4 роки тому +1

    so how do you install it without the pulley holder tool?

    • @JanetakaJJ
      @JanetakaJJ 4 роки тому

      ive been wondering that too? Did you ever find out?

  • @masterdebater0010
    @masterdebater0010 3 роки тому +1

    Are these ok for automatic cars?

  • @slow_carsgarage7422
    @slow_carsgarage7422 4 роки тому

    Can u guys make a 72tooth trigger wheel that mates with the aluminium pulley ?

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  4 роки тому

      Interesting question. I don't think they do. What is the application?

  • @mmost5311
    @mmost5311 3 роки тому

    hey do you know if a k20z1 crank pulley will fit on a base rsx k20a3?

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 роки тому

      Pretty sure all the K20 pulleys fit the same yes.

    • @mmost5311
      @mmost5311 3 роки тому

      @@Heeltoe. thanks , im really curious about these lightweight pullies

  • @cheetoshotfries2289
    @cheetoshotfries2289 3 роки тому

    Pulleys not on sale on heeltoes page😪?

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 роки тому

      We offer them for sale yes, product availability is changing all the time though.

  • @Spacedout209
    @Spacedout209 3 роки тому +1

    High performance academy has a video you should watch on the subject my friend 😂😂😂🤦‍♂️

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 роки тому +1

      I'll take a watch but don't expect it to change my mind. In 15+ years, nobody has yet. Have yet to see practical real world evidence that a modern Honda engine *needs* any kind of harmonic damper, short of a high horsepower race engine.

    • @Spacedout209
      @Spacedout209 3 роки тому

      @@Heeltoe. that's true your over engineered very reliable low hp honda engine may be fine but that's not the case with all 4 cylinders depending on bore stroke overall smaller piston less torsional push and pull on the crank ie less need for a damper but like my 2.4 nissan motor it's at about the end of the spectrum for a for displacement to still be able to rev past 7k that's not to say that a damper wouldnt help your honda last 20% longer by dampening those vibrations that are just vibrating the main bearings the oil pump the rod bearings the snout 9f the crank, even vibrations being transferred to the valves from the timing chain if u have one and u wouldnt be able to notice a problem until years and years later after it's way too late u cant feel torsional vibration at all it's a harmonic frequency that happens at different points in the rev range that the damper dials out not an actual vibration u can feel or hear

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 роки тому

      @@Spacedout209 Thanks I appreciate the feedback. We just don't put stock in the idea that the stock pulley on your general Honda engine is even a harmonic damper to begin with. It's all in the video. *shrug* I am not commenting on any non-Honda engines.

    • @Spacedout209
      @Spacedout209 3 роки тому

      @@Heeltoe. I seen that engine with an oem pully on the crank, i think even some porches dont come with them stock but whatever I can do to keep my nissan 4 cylinder from vibrating itself to death all I was saying is I'm sure adding one to an engine that didnt come with one would make it last a little longer even if it isnt necessary

  • @johnr154
    @johnr154 5 років тому +1

    Goes well with turbo?

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  5 років тому +3

      In general I would say yes. HOWEVER, as boost pressure rises and toque increases the issue of crankshaft deflection becomes greater and greater. Especially if the engine is built up with stronger pistons, sleeves, rods, etc you will want to consider an upgraded damper like a ATi or Fluidampr unit to dampen those forces.
      On a factory-turbocharged car with a stock bottom end (most cases) or a mild turbo on a mild build...I say go for an alloy pulley. It will help you generate more power off-boost to help RPMs come up and get exhaust flowing.

    • @jimhiscott2918
      @jimhiscott2918 4 роки тому

      If you dont mind exploding your oil pump go ahead and run an aluminum pulley. DONT DO IT

  • @k24accord73
    @k24accord73 6 років тому +1

    I was thinking of onorthodox pulley ..hopefully i see before after video

  • @jorgereveron2108
    @jorgereveron2108 5 років тому

    You guys make this for the Honda fit 2008? L15A motor

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  5 років тому

      We do! www.heeltoeauto.com/product.php?productid=64740

  • @bobo5150
    @bobo5150 3 роки тому +1

    Harmonic balancer delete you're going to blow up your engine in 6 months.

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 роки тому +1

      Clearly you didn't watch the video.

    • @bobo5150
      @bobo5150 3 роки тому

      @@Heeltoe. I did, I'm just busting your damper. In all seriousness it probably doesn't matter on a stock or bolt on build. These guys build xxxx hp engines so they know what they're talking about. ua-cam.com/video/V1hX1liR7r8/v-deo.html

  • @victorlewis7635
    @victorlewis7635 3 роки тому +1

    I feel like I’m the only one, but I wonder how this feels on a D series

    • @_WESTSIDE_
      @_WESTSIDE_ 2 роки тому

      Definitely peaking my interest as well 🤔🤔

    • @_WESTSIDE_
      @_WESTSIDE_ 2 роки тому

      Definitely peaking my interest as well 🤔🤔

    • @victorlewis7635
      @victorlewis7635 2 роки тому

      @@_WESTSIDE_ Well I hear for racing it's cool, but I DD mine so it wouldn't be as applicable as on a race engine

  • @williampano8304
    @williampano8304 5 років тому

    Why don’t you include dyno chart?? 🤨 also do y’all have this for the k24z2 lmao

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  5 років тому +1

      Because we don't have a dyno chart to include. Believe there is a K24Z app available yes.

  • @530StreetRacing
    @530StreetRacing 2 роки тому

    Make a d series crank pulley with built in 60-2 trigger wheel 😁

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  2 роки тому

      Pulleys with triggers...what for, really?

    • @530StreetRacing
      @530StreetRacing 2 роки тому

      @@Heeltoe. d16z6 with zx6 carbs running on nodiz ignition

    • @530StreetRacing
      @530StreetRacing 2 роки тому

      @@Heeltoe. motor is for a first gen accord sedan

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  2 роки тому

      @@530StreetRacing We will not be making that pulley

  • @austin_94gt18
    @austin_94gt18 5 років тому

    I wonder if this is still safe for high to mid range hp built cars (250hp+ cars putting alot of pressure on those lightweight pulleys)😕

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  5 років тому +1

      HP does not put pressure on the pulley...your statement really doesn't make a lot of sense. We sell these for 200-300 hp cars all the time.

  • @ACamps53
    @ACamps53 5 років тому

    Great video!
    I have one question:
    Do you think that between all k20 specs, the crankshaft pulley are the same?
    Im asking because I have bone stock 8th gen civic si (k20z3) and the crankshaft pulley is wobbling, so looking for the part the exact replacement is 160$ while ive seen other crankshaft pulleys for other k20's for 40$

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  5 років тому +1

      Yes we think pretty much all the K20 pulleys are interchangable.

    • @ACamps53
      @ACamps53 5 років тому

      @@Heeltoe. thank you

    • @watchere
      @watchere 4 роки тому

      Might be too late, they are interchangeable but the diameters are different.

  • @KeepinItReal890
    @KeepinItReal890 2 роки тому

    run a 9lb flywheel and buy an ATI damper. don't be cheap on your $5000 fully built motor. all the responsiveness you need.

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  2 роки тому

      Nobody said this advice would be taken on a $5000 fully built engine. This is general advice for the average street tuner.

  • @moustachio334
    @moustachio334 2 роки тому

    Just use a fluid damper for the crank pulley. Makes hp and is still lighter than stock but absorbs any vibrations and if you assume Honda engines don’t vibrate at all because they have magical crankshafts and can ignore the fact that they’re 4 cylinders then I’m inclined to believe you’re selling these pullies or making commission from sales. I wouldn’t trust those shitty looking garage made pullies either. There are far superior brands that make lightweight pullies. How much money do you make selling these pullies versus the cost to make them? They look like some Alibaba junk.

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  2 роки тому +2

      Well a lot of hate in there. LOL, I'll tell you what you lost me at a fluid-filled damper makes power. Sounds to me like you're more interested in saying a bunch of negative things than actual facts. Every one of the pulleys in this videos is a quality made part and with the exception of one they're all made in the USA.

  • @kserye0829
    @kserye0829 6 років тому

    I have an 08 TSX and im looking forward for this upgrade but im in canada.

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  6 років тому +1

      This upgrade is fine for Canadians also.

  • @evodingo3375
    @evodingo3375 4 роки тому +1

    The best thing these accelerate is engine failure.... do your homework

  • @benedictddaisog
    @benedictddaisog 3 роки тому +1

    can i use that on k20 crv?

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 роки тому

      Yes we have pulleys for the K-series.

  • @nobodynoone2500
    @nobodynoone2500 3 роки тому +2

    Hondas all come with harmonic dampeners. (even if they are cheal rubber style ones)
    Not running one will kill your oil puimp.
    Stop spreading misinfo.

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 роки тому

      None of them do as far as I know. You are flat wrong dude. The video is specifically to dispel the fearmongering.

  • @toyota86drifter
    @toyota86drifter 5 років тому

    Were can I get these pullies

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  5 років тому

      These and more are available on Heeltoeauto.com under Engine parts.

    • @toyota86drifter
      @toyota86drifter 5 років тому

      @@Heeltoe. thanks so much i have a 06 accord 4 door making 190 all motor with oem part and aftermarket

  • @mathewperez5836
    @mathewperez5836 3 роки тому +2

    These are so bad for your engine omg smh

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 роки тому +1

      Not really! Such is the point of the video. Give it a listen again. We'll explain.

    • @mathewperez5836
      @mathewperez5836 3 роки тому

      I use a legit ati on my setup

  • @cvpifanatic
    @cvpifanatic 5 років тому

    I wonder if they have one for a R18 engine

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  5 років тому

      We do have Nonstop Tuning kits on the Heeltoe site.

  • @7g6_66
    @7g6_66 5 років тому

    What about a 05 6-6 coupe TL swapped

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  5 років тому

      Sorry, what is the question?

    • @Jaydogg209
      @Jaydogg209 4 роки тому

      Yes it will work for a v6 6speed tl motor.

  • @juansolo1617
    @juansolo1617 6 років тому

    Why not just have the lightweight pulley balanced?

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  5 років тому +2

      These parts are made concentrically. They are basically balanced off the lathe. But that is not the concern people have anyway. They are worried about damping destructive harmonics, which is a non-issue.

  • @miguelrivera8532
    @miguelrivera8532 3 роки тому

    Why u didn't put we're we can get it

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 роки тому

      I don't understand the question...

    • @miguelrivera8532
      @miguelrivera8532 3 роки тому

      @@Heeltoe. does parts u showing I have a 05 Acura RL would like to have it nice

  • @jaweed7219
    @jaweed7219 2 роки тому

    Can I get a free sticker?

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  2 роки тому +1

      Sure, if you do place an order for something we toss a sticker or two in for free.

    • @jaweed7219
      @jaweed7219 2 роки тому +1

      @@Heeltoe. I’ll trade you rv6 pcds for 1 sticker

  • @04tacomaguy1
    @04tacomaguy1 3 роки тому +1

    They have blown many of engine lol but are fun

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 роки тому +2

      No they haven't.

    • @04tacomaguy1
      @04tacomaguy1 3 роки тому +1

      @@Heeltoe. its more stress on the oil pump and bearing only because slightly more vibration atributes to lower film of oil coating bearings from shaking

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 роки тому

      @@04tacomaguy1 as long as the crank is balanced these parts do not cause any of those issues on the Honda engines were talking about here.

    • @04tacomaguy1
      @04tacomaguy1 3 роки тому

      @@Heeltoe. it's balanced for the heavier OEM one when you take one that only weighs a few ounces on a stock internal motor it will cause issues down the line. Now if you have different crank rods and pistons that weigh less it won't be as big of an issue cause its more or less counter balanced...

    • @Heeltoe.
      @Heeltoe.  3 роки тому

      @@04tacomaguy1 I'm sorry friend you're really off base. Size and weight of the pulley have nothing to do with the balance of the bottom end. The engine is balanced internally has nothing to do with the pulley. The pulley is balanced as well so it doesn't affect the balance of the rotating assembly at all.