The Slow Death of Award Shows

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  • Опубліковано 2 кві 2022
  • the only grammy i trust is my mom's mom
    twitter: / nathanzed
    all music used in this vid is below:
    music:
    Kilo kish - distractions III
    Kanye - praise god
    Charli xcx - good ones
    The Weeknd - out of time
    Vince Staples - take me home
    Encanto cast - we don’t talk about bruno
    Lil baby - sum 2 prove (instrumental): • SUM 2 PROVE (𝗜𝗻𝘀𝘁𝗿𝘂𝗺𝗲𝗻...
    Dune music
    Denzel curry - Walkin
    Gunna - flooded
    Kavinsky - zenith
    Saba - come my way
    Tobi lou - lingo starr
    also shoutout to eddy burback
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  • @mrsundaymovies
    @mrsundaymovies 2 роки тому +3206

    Ratatouille wins the Zeddy’s for the 15th year in a row? Never thought I’d live to see it

  • @Gambito99100
    @Gambito99100 2 роки тому +2712

    It's a big coincidence how the "We Don't Talk About Bruno" performance changed the lyrics to celebrate the Oscars and Bruno's early production name was, in fact, Oscar

    • @madisonrose1893
      @madisonrose1893 2 роки тому +23

      damn 😆

    • @jelanloy-a4820
      @jelanloy-a4820 2 роки тому +130

      We don't talk about oscar

    • @MichaelGallagher97
      @MichaelGallagher97 2 роки тому +18

      That's not irony

    • @wizcombo
      @wizcombo 2 роки тому +16

      Coincidence

    • @corrinflakes9659
      @corrinflakes9659 2 роки тому +33

      @@MichaelGallagher97 it kind of is irony. Academy: “celebrate Oscars!” (But are actually bad). Encanto (prototype): “We don’t talk about Oscar!” (But is actually good).

  • @_elevenofspades
    @_elevenofspades 2 роки тому +2499

    Plottwist: Will Smith decided to sacrifice his own dignity and make his slap trend so that we would never talk to that godawful “We Don’t Talk About Bruno” Oscars performance.

    • @jeremiahborders2959
      @jeremiahborders2959 2 роки тому +208

      Plot-Plottwist: that godawful "We Don't Talk About Bruno" performance was actually an illuminate trigger for will Smith to get active his alter ego that night to get him acting up. All put into place by the queen illuminate beyonce, that's why she showed up this year! 😆

    • @Mayonaise55
      @Mayonaise55 2 роки тому +44

      PlottwistX3: Will Smith is the Thanos of our universe. So when he smacked Chris, he altered and changed a lot of future events.

    • @dhaliazaid4479
      @dhaliazaid4479 2 роки тому +25

      The only one enjoying that song was zandaya

    • @thabreez456
      @thabreez456 2 роки тому +27

      We don't talk about the "We don't talk about Bruno" concert at the oscars.

    • @carlosroo5460
      @carlosroo5460 2 роки тому +5

      Dun~ Dun~ DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN~~

  • @heyitsmegn
    @heyitsmegn 2 роки тому +2002

    totally agree with EVERYTHING said here. the oscars are trying way too hard to get "good ratings" when tv ratings havent mattered since MASH ended. the people who love movies will watch a 3 hour long ceremony if they feel like it is a genuine attempt to honor and appreciate those movies! thats all there is to it!

    • @tyboholley9879
      @tyboholley9879 2 роки тому +5

      Well shit I bet the Oscar’s rating got boosted this time

    • @IkeOkerekeNews
      @IkeOkerekeNews 2 роки тому +14

      I think they should be doing what the Game Awards have been doing and start streaming it on every platform possible.

    • @Jo53ph98
      @Jo53ph98 2 роки тому +5

      Yeah it should be done to honor the movies. then there's the irony of cutting out some of the awards to get more viewers, which lead to myself and many I know not watching.

    • @SoulSugarJoint
      @SoulSugarJoint 2 роки тому +11

      EXACTLY! There are more interesting conversations happening about film and music on the internet, why suffer through 4 hours of insulting the one thing you came to see?

    • @lucasb9285
      @lucasb9285 2 роки тому

      @@Kessekom not really, its depends on the internet mostly now, and if u have it in streaming

  • @jzaldivar9952
    @jzaldivar9952 2 роки тому +420

    Funniest thing ever was director Bong Joon-ho saying that the Oscar’s were just “very local” awards… he was right

    • @marmiteghost
      @marmiteghost 2 роки тому +73

      Oscars are to cinema what the Superbowl is to sports

    • @Jess-jl2tx
      @Jess-jl2tx 2 роки тому +52

      @@marmiteghost for the US

    • @kelsey.is.offline
      @kelsey.is.offline 2 роки тому +60

      iconic. considering how pointless oscars are in their own country, imagine how vapid and self-important they must appear to rest of the world. Putting them in their place.

    • @edenjaycollins6055
      @edenjaycollins6055 2 роки тому +29

      @@kelsey.is.offline as a european iv only watched the oscars twice and both times it low-key felt like a fever dream and was mad cringy, god forbid they ever get to take part in eurovision ughhhh

    • @kelsey.is.offline
      @kelsey.is.offline 2 роки тому +8

      @@edenjaycollins6055 omg i love eurovision. its so campy

  • @rai351
    @rai351 2 роки тому +448

    Conspiracy theory: Will Smith did that so when you search for “Will Smith Oscar” the results would show you the slap instead of his character in shark tales

    • @imanolvides3185
      @imanolvides3185 2 роки тому +48

      Fr lmao. Would rather be known for the slap than shark tale 😂

    • @liquidalumina7141
      @liquidalumina7141 2 роки тому +7

      Honestly... I would too

    • @Row_of_E
      @Row_of_E 2 роки тому

      Shark Tales is a _cinematic disaster_

    • @lalat5899
      @lalat5899 2 роки тому +8

      Shark tales is my jam 😂

    • @sofiipote7
      @sofiipote7 2 роки тому +2

      I'm a follower of this theory, you've convinced me

  • @adamhanlon3327
    @adamhanlon3327 2 роки тому +2063

    I'm increasingly loving the 'out of time' instrumental being a staple of these videos. Everytime I hear it, I just want to go and listen to Dawn FM again for the millionth time. Thank you Nathan

  • @ja3377
    @ja3377 2 роки тому +747

    "When everyone's famous, no one will be."
    You just earned my like for that paraphrase of Syndrome's most iconic line. Good job 👍love your videos

    • @AliaslsailA
      @AliaslsailA 2 роки тому +4

      But there's even still so much cult around celebrities, I don't get it.

    • @cantthinkofaname5046
      @cantthinkofaname5046 2 роки тому +13

      @@AliaslsailA celebrities still exists, movie stars are fading away

    • @apmfer
      @apmfer 2 роки тому +2

      @@cantthinkofaname5046 bad take they aren’t at all

    • @apmfer
      @apmfer 2 роки тому

      @@cantthinkofaname5046 when the current generation of starts goes a new one will pop up it’s always like that and even now we have Tom holland mark walhberg the rock Leonardo DiCaprio

    • @cantthinkofaname5046
      @cantthinkofaname5046 2 роки тому +1

      @@apmfer People are starting resent celebrities, you can see it happening in real time. The age of movie stars is fading away

  • @karlafajardo4040
    @karlafajardo4040 2 роки тому +565

    Not to mention, covid really showed everyone how INSUFFERABLE these celebrities are. Why would I tune in to see a room full of rich people complaining about whatever ( it's not like they're actually honoring film as an art)?

    • @dasanii2467
      @dasanii2467 2 роки тому +9

      there are a lot of celebrities that aren't complaining, and actually focus on the art you just aren't paying attention

    • @karlafajardo4040
      @karlafajardo4040 2 роки тому +52

      @@dasanii2467 I agree. It's not everyone. But maybe I should be more clear, the ACADEMY isn't honoring film as an art.

    • @firstnamesurname2482
      @firstnamesurname2482 2 роки тому +12

      @@dasanii2467 Still, why should we put them on pedestal when they don't even care about anything?
      Covid should get some applause for this.

    • @layton6202
      @layton6202 2 роки тому +2

      @@firstnamesurname2482 who told you they don't care about anything

    • @firstnamesurname2482
      @firstnamesurname2482 2 роки тому +23

      @@layton6202 I should phrase that better,
      They don't even care about us, why should we give damn about them?
      Stop idolizing them, simple as that.

  • @NR-ns3sq
    @NR-ns3sq 2 роки тому +471

    dropping this video when the GRAMMY’s is live is hilarious 😂 already a classic

    • @imhotepnixon
      @imhotepnixon 2 роки тому +48

      The Grammys? I legit thought that was a month ago

    • @NR-ns3sq
      @NR-ns3sq 2 роки тому +10

      @@imhotepnixon it’s on right now. i got it on as background noise

    • @burntblueberrywaffles
      @burntblueberrywaffles 2 роки тому +6

      The Grammys were today???

    • @wil.d_sage
      @wil.d_sage 2 роки тому +3

      Wait the grammy’s are going on?

    • @uraharasenpai8852
      @uraharasenpai8852 2 роки тому

      Didn’t know that the Grammys were today

  • @miguelguzman8931
    @miguelguzman8931 2 роки тому +654

    The people that run award shows are so disconnected from the audience that they’re trying to reach. I legit have no idea who won best picture and this is coming from someone who up until this year tried to keep up with the Oscars because I considered myself a film fan.

    • @cjspyker
      @cjspyker 2 роки тому +5

      you're not a film fan if you never heard of coda. Apple tv didn't do enough advertising

    • @marie8198
      @marie8198 2 роки тому +48

      @@cjspyker coda is just remake of an average film but it was critically acclaimed because its american

    • @cube5750
      @cube5750 2 роки тому +19

      Oscar's are just American awards.. if you genuinely love movies you should branch out to other regional cinemas that are way better but don't get any awards by USA

    • @shisexee
      @shisexee 2 роки тому

      @@marie8198 really? What film?

    • @marie8198
      @marie8198 2 роки тому

      @@shisexee Coda for example

  • @mercy412
    @mercy412 2 роки тому +1434

    I wish I could go back in time to 12 minutes ago when I didn't know Megan Thee Stallion performed a remix of 'We Don't Talk About Bruno' at the OSCARS.

  • @katabama7084
    @katabama7084 2 роки тому +3932

    I just want Nathan zed’s opinion on everything he’s so well articulated and the way he shares his opinion is so well spoken and entertaining…get Nathan zed a zeddy 🙏

    • @salvambala7779
      @salvambala7779 2 роки тому +79

      Facts, I don't wanna form my own opinion anymore😤😤

    • @miscellaneouslife2778
      @miscellaneouslife2778 2 роки тому +9

      @@salvambala7779 lol I love that

    • @groverkiinmuppetborn714
      @groverkiinmuppetborn714 2 роки тому +14

      UA-camr Of The Year Zeddy goes to... NATHAN ZED! Who would've known

    • @hallehuckleberry
      @hallehuckleberry 2 роки тому +14

      this man’s opinion is relatable, valuable, and respected. he says what we’re all thinking.

    • @abbiemyrie
      @abbiemyrie 2 роки тому +13

      everything he says just makes sense

  • @LouisOnAir
    @LouisOnAir 2 роки тому +475

    My favourite moment of this year's Oscars was the editor of DUNE talking about how his category was edited out of the TV event. The technical awards are the only ones I care about at this point, sets, effects and sound design is where it's at

    • @-Teague-
      @-Teague- 2 роки тому +26

      @26 Mic dude. Stop. This is genuinely sad. Just make content you don't have to spam.

    • @johnmuselmann7886
      @johnmuselmann7886 2 роки тому +2

      @26 Mic wack

    • @abhyudaykrishna9714
      @abhyudaykrishna9714 2 роки тому +7

      the technical awards are also absolute jokes, no idea what you're talking about lmao. editing and costumes went to don't look up and cruella....

    • @AST-erisked
      @AST-erisked 2 роки тому +7

      @@abhyudaykrishna9714 Bohemian Rhapsody won best editing... that has to be one of the best jokes that the oscars ever pulled

    • @michaeljordan6216
      @michaeljordan6216 2 роки тому +2

      @@abhyudaykrishna9714 Joe Walker won editing for Dune at the Oscars.

  • @MrSupertall14
    @MrSupertall14 2 роки тому +547

    I think the death of award shows has a lot to do with the access we now have to celebrities and as you mentioned the inability of these shows to choose the "winners". We are now seeing a departure from these shows because of this, especially in music grammy or not the song is still good and will be remembered while some of the "winners" are forgotten the next year.

    • @patrickt.6492
      @patrickt.6492 2 роки тому +5

      It's really interesting to look at all of the awards winners over the years and see how many (really, how few) of them are remembered as classics. The Best Years of Our Lives (Best Picture Winner in 1946) is legitimately a great film, but it's kind of the exception to the rule.

    • @adainjarrio
      @adainjarrio 2 роки тому +5

      @@patrickt.6492 Staying power in Film is kinda complicated. Given the runtime of a Film, even good films are rarely watched twice by your average viewer.
      I always refer to The Grand Budapest Hotel when I talk Oscars, that movie was amazing but almost no one talks about it and will probably be lost to history but you know what will be remembered the MCU.
      Now granted the MCU is decent but not a single movie in it is a 9/10 but because people like a simple hero story with explosions it will be remembered.

    • @alexforce9
      @alexforce9 2 роки тому +2

      @@adainjarrio I think its the opposite actualy - that all the superhero stuff will be remembered as one big pile of action and CGI and how fun it is, but no specific movie will be remembered or talked about. They will remember the actors and the characters they played tho. The Grand Budapest Hotel will not be forgoten. Well, the movie itself is not gonna be talked so much spefiicly but the director and his style will be cherished in the future.

    • @adainjarrio
      @adainjarrio 2 роки тому

      @@alexforce9 Fair point.

    • @__beinluv
      @__beinluv 2 роки тому +1

      for real, so many great artists haven't won a single Grammy and are still remembered as legends whereas no one knows who tf are some of the most awards artists and haven't had a single hit to their name

  • @maismade6013
    @maismade6013 2 роки тому +416

    I think it’s just the blatant rigging of the shows and also people realising you don’t need critics opinions to like a piece of art. However it is so enjoyable to see your favourite artist/ work of art win an award and it undoubtedly helps more people find out about more art.

  • @neivilde.1242
    @neivilde.1242 2 роки тому +269

    the bruno performance had me so mad, like why couldn't they let the voice actors do their thing!!!

    • @araw_buwan
      @araw_buwan 2 роки тому +38

      Or just had musical theater actors perform. That song was written by a musical theater songwriter/actor, it would have been apt to have stage musical actors perform it!!

    • @elzbthcho
      @elzbthcho 2 роки тому +12

      My guess is that it was probably because they only usually perform best song nominees and they didn't think they could just get away with singing two encanto songs without putting a spin on the non-nominated one

  • @bellacrider4299
    @bellacrider4299 2 роки тому +810

    When they said : “Animation is something kids enjoy, and Adults have to endure” at the OSCARS this year when an animated documentary about a gay refugee was among the nominees was just disrespectful. ESPECIALLY when Disney is behind the scenes funding homophobic legislation and claiming the one eyed monster from Onward is representation.

    • @basedyui._.3775
      @basedyui._.3775 2 роки тому +115

      This is why I’ve come to hate when people say “yasss representation” where the representation is the bare minimum or less

    • @johanna7254
      @johanna7254 2 роки тому +77

      Plus, apparently they didn't even air the short film winner's acceptance speech, which basically called the Academy out for the disrespect. :/

    • @kimorayn1733
      @kimorayn1733 2 роки тому +13

      Representation is simply not there. We'll know when it happens. Ryan Renolds better just grow some cajones and kiss a man, he's the most obvious choice. And then the World will be... Fine. And we'll move forward from there.

    • @ehhdt.3909
      @ehhdt.3909 2 роки тому +7

      Yikes that's just distasteful.

    • @good-tn9sr
      @good-tn9sr 2 роки тому +2

      I mean they are only 3% of population and they don’t drive significant sales.

  • @caydogsnodgrass1979
    @caydogsnodgrass1979 2 роки тому +427

    Your opinion on everything, including the director of Dune winning ZERO academy awards, is spot on once again Mr. Zed.

    • @Wired4Life2
      @Wired4Life2 2 роки тому +21

      In fact, *_none of the three_* films that won multiple awards at the recent 94th Oscars were nominated in Best Director. That’s *_insane._*

    • @cjspyker
      @cjspyker 2 роки тому +3

      the reason why dune didn't won is because it's an incomplete movie, only part one. you're not going to give him director for a part one movie

    • @Wired4Life2
      @Wired4Life2 2 роки тому +4

      @@cjspyker Peter Jackson was nominated in Best Director for _Fellowship of the Ring_ and won for _Return of the King,_ but wasn’t nominated for middle entry _Two Towers._

    • @aameyadevansh4246
      @aameyadevansh4246 2 роки тому +5

      @@Wired4Life2 To be fair, Dune was the only one out of the three that deserved a Directing nomination, CODA and Eyes of Tammy Faye have nothing special about their direction style. And it's anyway a travesty that Power of the Dog and Drive My Car didn't win more than just one award

    • @Wired4Life2
      @Wired4Life2 2 роки тому

      @@aameyadevansh4246 At the very least, I’d argue that, with _The Eyes of Tammy Faye,_ Michael Showalter has stepped up his directing game since _The Big Sick._

  • @noneofyourbuisness7
    @noneofyourbuisness7 2 роки тому +246

    in a world where I can go online and see a list of the nominations/winners of the Grammys and Oscars. spend all of 5 minutes reading it. I don't need to watch a several hour snooze fest filled with celebrities who think they're the second coming and like the smell of their own farts. I get the importance of these events for the artists but it doesn't need to be televised anymore.

    • @kalync.8232
      @kalync.8232 2 роки тому +17

      They should just stop posting the lists of nominations/winners. Doing that makes no sense. Somethings should just be a “be there or hear about it”.

    • @billcipher8645
      @billcipher8645 2 роки тому +1

      @@kalync.8232 people will spread the word abput it anyways, what's the point?

    • @georgek5737
      @georgek5737 Рік тому

      @@kalync.8232 The next day you will have an unofficial list from the few people that did watch it.

  • @faraiedwyn
    @faraiedwyn 2 роки тому +285

    5:43 Interesting fact: Bruno was originally going to be called 'Oscar', but the name was changed to 'Bruno' to fit the lyrics of the song better.

    • @salvambala7779
      @salvambala7779 2 роки тому +102

      It would have been better that way since we don't really talk about the Oscars

    • @marcelinewaters5578
      @marcelinewaters5578 2 роки тому +13

      @@salvambala7779 Ooof.

    • @alex_n215
      @alex_n215 2 роки тому +10

      @@salvambala7779 Bars.

  • @roboky101
    @roboky101 2 роки тому +243

    I feel like the issue may be the celebs themselves. This may be highly anecdotal, but I look at all these people and I ask myself, 'what does celebrating any of these people do for me?'.

    • @callmek5
      @callmek5 2 роки тому +4

      same

    • @dasanii2467
      @dasanii2467 2 роки тому +5

      but... celebs have always existed... maybe you are old, but this is how its always been and you are not the majority. most people aren't rich so they find rich peoples lives interesting

    • @aesyamazeli8804
      @aesyamazeli8804 2 роки тому +5

      @@dasanii2467 yes but nowadays we pivot to the rich UA-camrs. We still like rich beautiful people, just that we can pretend we actually know a rich beautiful person because UA-camrs share everything to everyone.

    • @kassiogomes8498
      @kassiogomes8498 2 роки тому +2

      You are celebrating their work. Do you like movies? If you don't like movies I don't know what you are expecting from the Oscars

    • @shayenecabral4726
      @shayenecabral4726 Рік тому +3

      It's hard to care if you are not a fa of their work but if you have invested and feel changed by their performance I think you would genuinely root for their success.Its like a random kid getting awarded vs a friend you have seen earn the award. (not saying celebraties are friends)

  • @locl3492
    @locl3492 2 роки тому +501

    i agree these shows suck. i think we need a legitimate celebration of film and music for every year that isn’t just Spotify Wrapped or people’s letterboxd lists.
    they’re just political theater at this point

    • @cjspyker
      @cjspyker 2 роки тому +4

      UA-cam rewind for Oscars is just as bad. just keep doing your award shows

  • @Luka-xr3cc
    @Luka-xr3cc 2 роки тому +50

    “nobody cares unless somebody gets slapped on live tv” yes exactly why i watched wrestlemania instead of the grammys

  • @ayanakaaron8926
    @ayanakaaron8926 2 роки тому +78

    Also, we have more access to celebrities now than ever before. In the 90s, if you wanted to see what your fav starlet was doing in real time you had to watch an award show/live performance. This morning, I watched Doja Cat get her hair washed on Instagram. Sitting down on my couch on a valuable Sunday doesn't hold as much appeal anymore. I'll just look up what she was wearing later and watch the highlights of the night on my lunch break.

    • @callmek5
      @callmek5 2 роки тому

      LOL same and whenever i miss her lives i just go to doja rexha like…we see celebrities 24/7 atp

  • @knightingirl
    @knightingirl 2 роки тому +201

    I think social media have a huge contribution to people not caring about the award shows anymore. You see, hear celebrities a lot these days cause of social media. I mean, there were no sm back then, so a lot of people always looked forward to seeing their favourite celebrities on TV.

    • @chuckbatman5
      @chuckbatman5 2 роки тому +41

      Also now we can just look up on social media who won the awards. I didn't have to actually be watching the Oscars to catch the Will Smith slap

    • @dasanii2467
      @dasanii2467 2 роки тому +3

      @@chuckbatman5 I mean did people actually remember who won just after watching, I feel like people are romanticizing the past

    • @RalphJr-xp3hp
      @RalphJr-xp3hp 2 роки тому

      The same thing can be align with professional wrestling and how online reporters release upcoming storylines on who win and lose in the matches. It may sound crazy but it’s on par with social media exposure in celebrity culture and their everyday activities.

  • @icecreamhero2375
    @icecreamhero2375 2 роки тому +17

    The kids choice awards are more amusing because people get slimed. LOL

  • @Maria_745
    @Maria_745 2 роки тому +78

    The Ratatouille bit is unreasonably funny only Nathan can just move on after that

  • @Watermelloman
    @Watermelloman 2 роки тому +573

    We love this man. He truely got his consistency up and we gotta respect him for not being the frank ocean of youtube. Anymore

    • @d.ml.g9902
      @d.ml.g9902 2 роки тому +13

      @26 Mic Saw the latest 3 vids, didnt laugh so Im here to tell you. Cheers.

  • @vietimports
    @vietimports 2 роки тому +516

    the awards show should be a moment to celebrate the work and effort of people working in movies or whatever field is being celebrated. a chance to bring a spotlight to the overlooked people who work in the industry. instead it becomes a gigantic party for rich celebrities lol. the smaller awards shows are legit and do what they should do, recognition of excellence

  • @At0mS8
    @At0mS8 2 роки тому +248

    I think focusing on why these people are nominated instead of focusing on their dresses or controversies would be much better. The Oscars are never going to be as popular as they were; that kind of glamour is outdated because we are tired of being bombarded with it every day, so I would go full academic Nobel-prize style and talk about what it is that these people did that is so good to be recognised and how they achieved it.
    Also, having almost 10000 voters ensures that most of them will vote not knowing what they are talking about.

    • @ikexbankai
      @ikexbankai 2 роки тому +8

      Well when it comes to the Oscars they ppl up for the award are put there by their peers in their branches. So actors vote for actors. Meaning they definitely know what they are voting on and about

    • @At0mS8
      @At0mS8 2 роки тому +12

      @@ikexbankai Branches are important when it comes to nominating people or films, but everyone can cast a vote for every category in the last round, once the nominees are known, despite their branch.

    • @Wired4Life2
      @Wired4Life2 2 роки тому +2

      The Oscars should become an edu-tainment spectacle for each craft, tailored around each category’s five nominees. Heck, maybe the nominees can also name their favorite non-nominees to show how the craft was magical for the previous year overall.

    • @nicolle2126
      @nicolle2126 2 роки тому +1

      you're forgetting the one thing that makes the oscar's unable to grow past all this.....how are they gonna monetize it? 🙄🙄

    • @dasanii2467
      @dasanii2467 2 роки тому +1

      people focus on the outfits rather than the actual nominees because its more interesting. ofc if the awards were interesting people would tune in

  • @_Zaaiinaab
    @_Zaaiinaab 2 роки тому +51

    "I love Anthony Hopkins, he deserved the award! But the way y'all set up the show, that was disrespectful to my boy!" Fresh off watching the Grammy's and oh my God how true is this statement. I just hate the pandering they do to get people to watch and luring these artists into thinking they'll win and like setting them up, to then just disappoint them in the worst way. Like with the Grammy's it is so obvious they would use certain names just to get fanbases to support and watch, and they'll mention these artists every ad break to keep you watching and hopeful and then nothing. Because they'll never give it to someone who isn't their darling, but they gotta pretend that they are actually inclusive.

  • @Chuuzus
    @Chuuzus 2 роки тому +56

    Beyoncé was really present for Lil Mama crashing Jay Z & Alicia Keys performance, Kanye West interrupting Taylor Swift, and Will Smith slapping Chris Rock.. i know she is tired!

    • @jeremiahborders2959
      @jeremiahborders2959 2 роки тому +8

      😆Now we...why she doesn't go to the Bet awards. She knows one of these days that we gonna catch her slipping.🤣😂 maybe we catch her slipping at the Soul Train awards! 😁

  • @Iman-zm5ve
    @Iman-zm5ve 2 роки тому +96

    i think with the music award shows there’s just no more superstars like we had brittany beyoncé and rihanna all under the same roof before and now it’s just..😵‍💫

    • @jovrnee
      @jovrnee 2 роки тому +26

      i 100% agree with this. people were watching because they could see whitney houston, michael jackson, and mariah carey all in the same place and it just doesn’t give that effect anymore

    • @jeremiahborders2959
      @jeremiahborders2959 2 роки тому +29

      Well to be fair, even the superstar that are there aren't as impactful as they use to be. I also think that world show just aren't as scandalous ad they use to be. I mean I know the award show from the 80s were more classy but (baaaabbbyy) those 90/2000s award show were always an event because you never knew what was gonna go down. I know people upset at will but will had nothing on kid rock and Tommy Lee punching match at the MTV awards. Idk but maybe I'm just messy!😏

    • @naomikimbokimi9015
      @naomikimbokimi9015 2 роки тому

      Exactly also can we talk about the fact that britney won her first mountain in 2008 , and didn't even win for toxic , bomt , Slave, stronger , oops , drive me crazy and kept on losing , regardless whether you like britneys music or not they are extremely influential and it took her to have a mental breakdown tl finally get awarded, as well as mariah only having 5 grammys and so many artists being snubbed the vmas and scammed ain't shit

  • @michaeldietrichmovies1936
    @michaeldietrichmovies1936 2 роки тому +77

    Your last point is spot on. No matter how much the Oscar’s attempts to pander to the public, people are not gonna watch, so celebrate the movies! Celebrate the people that want to watch and root for cast and crew of these big projects! But no, everyone just punched down and felt embarrassed to even do that, it sucked man.

  • @maerijoka9075
    @maerijoka9075 2 роки тому +15

    "when everyone's famous, nobody is" spot on

  • @Sthuthukile
    @Sthuthukile 2 роки тому +219

    I love how this is timely but without deviating from his usual content

    • @mlv5746
      @mlv5746 2 роки тому

      you put it into words

  • @DeejayCombsGoesLive
    @DeejayCombsGoesLive 2 роки тому +40

    Bruh idk what it is but after quarantine, award shows and concerts don’t hit the same

  • @chaghetti
    @chaghetti 2 роки тому +30

    Leonardo DiCaprio taking so long to win a Oscar just proves to me that the Oscar’s ain’t shït and will never be shït. That man has given some of the greatest acting performances I have ever seen.

    • @arthurgearheard4701
      @arthurgearheard4701 2 роки тому +2

      Well, such iconic Actors as Cary Grant and Chaplin have never won the Oscar!

  • @courier6960
    @courier6960 2 роки тому +30

    The main reason why people stopped paying attention to these shows is because of how now people understand (with the rise of the internet and freedom of information) that award shows are HEAVILY rigged. Everyone knows nowadays that these award mean NOTHING, they are effectively self-assigned (only one step up from the JD power award). You pay to get these awards, period.
    Also, we don’t NEED award shows to tell us what’s good anymore. I can Google whether the new releases are worth my time, I can subscribe to over a dozen different reviewers and get a more complete perspective of the industry in less time with more trusted voices instead of these big budget insiders who are paid to say everything is good (and even when they aren’t paid, they feel the need to say it’s good in order to not burn any bridges).

    • @dasanii2467
      @dasanii2467 2 роки тому

      the main reason people stopped watching is because of the fall of tv

    • @courier6960
      @courier6960 2 роки тому +2

      @@dasanii2467
      Sure, the amount of people who watch TV in general has gone drastically down, but this isn’t why the Oscars has been hit even harder than most.

  • @Antwannnn
    @Antwannnn 2 роки тому +89

    They should have a "Best Animal Actor" category. Ratings would hit their peak (No cgi animals aloud)

    • @Sabrina-sc1db
      @Sabrina-sc1db 2 роки тому +1

      Only if the animal picks up the award

  • @ratboyraticus9896
    @ratboyraticus9896 2 роки тому +21

    I didn't realize that the grammys was on till reading this comment section.

  • @MalloryBros
    @MalloryBros 2 роки тому +15

    "I like some of the Tony Hawk KickFlips.... what the heck does he know about movies?!" 😂😂💯

  • @Alyss93
    @Alyss93 2 роки тому +18

    It's kind of the same reason why UA-cam can't do Rewind now - there's so much content that covers so many different bases that it's hard to represent it all. Everyone has films that they love and ones that they've never heard of. I don't think I've watched an Oscar-winning movie for several years now, but I've seen hundreds of movies in that time. It's not just that they're out of touch, it's that it's impossible for them to be in touch with everything. It was very different when there was only a small amount of films being produced.

  • @jvmonster4367
    @jvmonster4367 2 роки тому +14

    can we get a slow rise of something rather than everything dying lmao. awesome vid man

    • @miscellaneouslife2778
      @miscellaneouslife2778 2 роки тому +4

      The video mentions the rise of streaming and social media giving us more access to celebrities as reasons for the downfall of these award shows. But maybe making videos explicitly based on(titled after) these factors as opposed to mentioning them is what you’re saying. I think that would be nice but I also like the video essay format he has now with setting up a thesis and giving examples to back it up

  • @DwayneIsK1NG
    @DwayneIsK1NG 2 роки тому +14

    Award shows and big companies can't win over us anymore. They are either too serious for our liking or they try to pander and make things worse. 😂

  • @c.aresty
    @c.aresty 2 роки тому +71

    Here's a thought experiment: Imagine if a Pulitzer Prize or Nobel Prize winner had to have mass appeal. They'd immediately lose credibility.
    Awards shows are losing momentum because their purpose contradicts itself. Sure, these shows are supposed to be "popular", but the only people who really care about them are music/movie lovers. So when the shows make a "wrong" decision (like picking Macklemore over Kendrick Lamar), they lose credibility with their core audience. By trying to appease the general public, they're basically telling their most loyal viewers "we don't actually care about your opinion". So now awards shows are competing with online streaming for a general public who just doesn't care that much about who wins.

    • @JokerInfinityWar
      @JokerInfinityWar 2 роки тому +5

      They legit ended Mack's career because of the Grammy win

  • @ayseturkoglu1061
    @ayseturkoglu1061 2 роки тому +23

    THANK YOU! Finally someone said it. That we don’t talk about Bruno performance was WORSE than anything that happened that night! I don’t care if a man slaps another fully grown man, nothing happened to him. But for all the people waiting for the performance of the current most famous song, it was a disgrace...

  • @wiktiktik
    @wiktiktik 2 роки тому +7

    “Never won anything” he says in front of a gold play button lol

  • @griffthecoke1722
    @griffthecoke1722 2 роки тому +23

    Let’s be honest. This was one thousand times more entertaining than any award show in the past 30 years

    • @cheerupbaby7792
      @cheerupbaby7792 2 роки тому +1

      30 years is a huge stretch. I would say 10.

  • @ELeeHamm
    @ELeeHamm 2 роки тому +40

    I remember back in middle school and high school when all my theatre kid friends and I would be so hyped about the Oscars that we were actually planning our own speeches for when we won our own awards....
    And now, twenty years later, I'm just like "meh."

  • @randomgirl2282
    @randomgirl2282 2 роки тому +19

    The funniest thing abt the slap is that Chris Rock don’t even care as much as everyone else do.

  • @jpm80
    @jpm80 2 роки тому +12

    11:42 "If the oscars had any justice, nacho libre would have won 10 years ago" see this is why i love nathan 😭❤️‍🔥makes me wanna rewatch his nacho libre video. another classic

  • @spritenoicy1676
    @spritenoicy1676 2 роки тому +38

    With some of your videos like "the lost art of live performance" and "the death of teen dystopias" it's not like these things don't happen anymore or are disappearing, trends come, go and come back again a lot--- but these television award shows are something where I truly think it's going to be gone within 30 years. Like if the Oscars/Grammys keep doing what they're doing now, its a wrap for them.

  • @Cerise4697
    @Cerise4697 2 роки тому +16

    I literally turned off the Oscars as soon as the Bruno performance ended because it was so rancid, so I completely missed the slap. Still agree that the Bruno song butchery was the real travesty of the night.

  • @sesinagoitom2634
    @sesinagoitom2634 2 роки тому +166

    As teenager who loves film, music, and tv and while nobody of my age group or above agrees but I do like award shows. I think a way to fix the Oscar’s should not joke or try to be cool or appeal to a wider audience at the expense of making it seem your degrading everyone’s opinions of the movies your here to appreciate and I think that the ceremony should be appreciate film for what it is, care less about viewers and remember the purpose of it, but also stop degrading new famous pieces of media that these old men can’t relate to in a new age like animation or blockbuster films. And if something dramatic does happen and it’s talked about then that’s great and at least people won’t shit on the rest of the ceremony saying it’s cringy or had unnecessary hosts or bits

    • @Billibab
      @Billibab 2 роки тому

      Yesssss!! Key word/concept CEREMONY! They don't know what that word means, the caucasity. We can just celebrate the great films, versus specific awards because they just don't WORK. What are these metrics? Sounds like they're to uphold this fucked up system we're in

    • @htsunmiku
      @htsunmiku 2 роки тому +9

      They're finished. They're never gonna change (fast enough)
      They have access to all they could possibly (money, resources and connections) need to properly plan and update award shows. But they don't.

  • @pzzta6266
    @pzzta6266 2 роки тому +11

    0:54 Nathan slowly drifting into Kanyes mind. We notice you...

  • @henriqueaugustus1761
    @henriqueaugustus1761 2 роки тому +36

    The problem with these awards is campaigning. Producers every year go after the Oscar voters and put together some exclusive parties to show the movie and get votes from the official voters. Harvey Weinstein was one of the best at that and this is why he became so powerful in Hollywood.

    • @aameyadevansh4246
      @aameyadevansh4246 2 роки тому +5

      While campaigning has its flaws, you have to think that if it goes away then all awards will go to just the most popular movies, and better independent films will be kicked back (just like Grammys mostly award popular stuff). Films like CODA, Worst Person in the World, Drive My Car etc could never have managed Oscar buzz if it wasn't for the campaigning. Just this year, two movies Mass and C'mon C'mon, which were better than most Best Picture nominees, did not manage a single nomination due to their poor campaigning

  • @sunnni_
    @sunnni_ 2 роки тому +16

    I felt this on another level. As someone who grew up loving the Oscars, film, and currently a screenwriter, the Oscar’s have pained my soul to oblivion. I miss when it was about the movies, the art, the production, the sets, the way the actors performed. Now it’s nothing but a pandering show, even if the movie isn’t noticeable, why mention that and take away credit and time the cast, directors, producers, etc put into the body of work. I have some, well little faith left that Oscars could turn around one more time but even that would take a miracle. Times are changing with social media around which is why I always admire those actors and actresses who decide not to have social media at all to keep their lives out of the lime light so we can truly enjoy their work and not who they are sleeping with or broke up with and so on.

  • @solliesthewise
    @solliesthewise 2 роки тому +63

    Funnily enough, Tony Hawk was actually in a lot of movies, but only a few like Police Academy 4 , Gleaming the Cube, xXx and Lords of Dogtown where he didn't play as himself.

  • @tym9080
    @tym9080 2 роки тому +9

    Celebrities are becoming more influencer like. More emphasis is on the personality than their music and individual rewards. Sad but true. Plus the death of cable does not help. We watch tv when we want to.

  • @theforbiddennick-9085
    @theforbiddennick-9085 2 роки тому +79

    Love to see this man consistently uploading classics, always makes my day.

    • @willowfarmer6550
      @willowfarmer6550 2 роки тому

      @26 Mic please stop spamming this on literally every comment

  • @JamieLeanne2
    @JamieLeanne2 2 роки тому +44

    they completely bombed the we don’t talk about bruno performance i was 🤨 for WHAT reason?! they also dropped the ball with a west side story performance. especially with ariana debose being nominated?? they should’ve performed america with full costumes and choreo. give the people a spectacle!!

  • @DocTrower1980
    @DocTrower1980 2 роки тому +50

    You know what's worse than the questionable performance of "Bruno", or Denis Villenueve getting no love as director of "Dune"? Jennifer Hudson and her brilliant performance as Aretha Franklin in "Respect" getting NO love from the Academy, not even a nod. Those quadrilateral Academy members wouldn't know what a good performance is if it went "OOPS!" upside their heads.

    • @SR-zv5ue
      @SR-zv5ue 2 роки тому

      Her performance and that movie wasn’t that great tho

    • @FirstNameLastName-pg3pi
      @FirstNameLastName-pg3pi 2 роки тому +3

      @@SR-zv5ue it was incredible

    • @SR-zv5ue
      @SR-zv5ue 2 роки тому +1

      @@FirstNameLastName-pg3pi The Aretha miniseries was much better than the film

  • @V-grandraccoon
    @V-grandraccoon 2 роки тому +10

    Oscars needs to stop it with the Disney stuff for me. It's constantly Disney owned properties, performances, jokes, etc. obviously because Disney owns ABC.
    Also keep Amy Shumer far away from it.

  • @Whodnl
    @Whodnl 2 роки тому +44

    Getting a Nathan Zed video is like having a second birthday

  • @Wura18
    @Wura18 2 роки тому +12

    5:36 “it’s finally Oscar night” they had to make the song corny for no reason 😂

  • @avastans
    @avastans 2 роки тому +28

    Well said Nathan. I watch the Oscars every year. They pander to the general public (who aren’t even interested in these cringey changes anyway) when they should be catering to people who do watch every year like myself as a film fan. I want to see the movies nominated respected and celebrated. And I didn’t mind that James Bond and The Godfather had a small tribute, but the execution was weird. The Godfather cast was up on stage for a minute and James Bond was introduced by athletes. How about honoring the stunt people who made James Bond possible? How about honoring each James Bond portrayal? I just want this to be a celebration of film first and foremost. I don’t care about jokes and whatever. Great video!

  • @xboxpenguin8705
    @xboxpenguin8705 2 роки тому +18

    48 seconds, already a certified CLASSIC

  • @wherewego6960
    @wherewego6960 2 роки тому +10

    Giving credit where credit is due... the constant performances at the Grammys keep them a leg-up above the other award shows in terms of how entertaining they are to watch

  • @harrisonmyers6400
    @harrisonmyers6400 2 місяці тому +1

    "When everyone is famous, no one is famous". No truer words could've been said

  • @marydarko3380
    @marydarko3380 2 роки тому +10

    Trin Lovell actually made a video about how the oscars vote and it's basically them voting on something that they agreed upon, it's not about whether the film was better than the other. they just end up agreeing like 'okay, it seems that this is the film we all agreed is the best' it's the reason why green book won over roma for best picture as crash one over brokeback mountain for best picture (I'm not over those two)

  • @AlinaAlive
    @AlinaAlive 2 роки тому +7

    Sending this to my mom so she can understand why the youths aren’t watching anymore. 😂

  • @jenna_bean0_137
    @jenna_bean0_137 2 роки тому +30

    The way I don’t care about award shows at all and have no opinion on them, but found myself clicking on this video as soon as I saw it and nodding in agreement the whole time just shows the genius of Nathan Zed

  • @theoxyscape7057
    @theoxyscape7057 2 роки тому +73

    Honestly, the only award show I've ever sat down to watch is the Kids Choice Awards. I feel that the reason these award shows (particularly awards shows for movies and TV shows) are in decline is the growing rift between the tastes of critics and general audiences (movies that are nominated for Best Picture are usually ones that most regular movie goers haven't watched) and the sometimes subjective nature of art in general, which makes it difficult to give a definitive, unanimously agreed upon award based on the choices of a few people.

    • @m_winewood
      @m_winewood 2 роки тому +4

      Facts and I think the Grammys are worse cuz they're even more political than movie awards. Like the sonic awards care more about image than the motion image awards. I mean wtf. Cardi b winning best rap album over Kendrick expended the last fuck I could even hypothetically give

    • @salvambala7779
      @salvambala7779 2 роки тому +2

      Kids choice awards are actually entertaining asf, the performances, the cameos and the sketches is what makes it unique and great fun.

    • @sontho6995
      @sontho6995 2 роки тому +1

      @@salvambala7779 I think KCA has been getting less & less interesting every year.

    • @SlapstickGenius23
      @SlapstickGenius23 2 роки тому

      @@m_winewood is Cardi B both olive skinned and a Latina?

    • @m_winewood
      @m_winewood 2 роки тому

      @@SlapstickGenius23 well considering shes both Afro-latina and a woman competing in a hyper masculine music genre during full swing Me Too era, I'm thinking that's why she won. But it wasn't about the music

  • @barry4649
    @barry4649 2 роки тому +27

    I watched the BRITs earlier this year while I was on my phone cause nothing else was on and it was so much better run than the Grammys, it had awards voted by the public and performances from people who are actually the most popular in the country and they mostly went to the most deserving acts

    • @melvinezekiel6304
      @melvinezekiel6304 2 роки тому

      BRIT's winners are bad, please. Ed Sheeran is just a bad nominee, let alone winner. They also snubbed so many great acts before, like Rina Sawayama and Charli XCX. Yes, it is voted by people, and because of that, it becomes very populist and the popularity becomes a huge factor when what is supposed to be is that smaller acts are more seen and supported. Mercury Prize is so much better.
      I love Adele, though. This album is her best, so I am glad she is sweeping everywhere.

    • @sarahruth402
      @sarahruth402 2 роки тому

      I didn't enjoy the BRIT's this year. I think Jack Whitehalls jokes were better when he hosted. I don't really pay much attention to what's in the charts or what's popular - the odd execptions are Olivia Rodrigo who I think is talented and Dua Lipa's last record was impressive. I was happy that Wolf Alice won as I think that they're quite underrated. I agree with Melvin about Charli xcx not being recognised as I loved her last couple of mixtapes & albums, but hate the songs that she received a lot of radio play & commercial success with.

    • @barry4649
      @barry4649 2 роки тому

      @@sarahruth402 I think we just differ in music tastes, I was happy to see the UK rappers get that stage, Little Simz and Dave in particular who should’ve won Grammys this year imo, as well as the rappers Dave brought on stage that would’ve never gotten that platform otherwise

    • @sarahruth402
      @sarahruth402 2 роки тому

      @@barry4649 I really enjoyed Dave's performance of Black at the BRITs in 2020, so powerful and moving! That was the first time I'd heard of him and his music.

  • @igloomoron7839
    @igloomoron7839 2 роки тому +8

    he forgot to mention that big global artists don't attend award shows any more. cause they don't care. Drake even pulled out of all his grammy nominations for 2022.

  • @JackieWarner13
    @JackieWarner13 2 роки тому +9

    Lin Manuel's dad said on Twitter Lin didn't write the new lyrics for Bruno performance. It shows. If they wanted to do that performance and change the lyrics they should of opened up the awards with it bc they were singing about the Oscar's.
    So annoyed the voice cast was only on for like 50 seconds of the performance

  • @ironfox4990
    @ironfox4990 2 роки тому +2

    Award shows should be award shows and that’s it.

  • @Cash42
    @Cash42 2 роки тому +5

    You literally said every right thing 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 may the algorithm be in your favor

  • @thaboyfraser
    @thaboyfraser 2 роки тому +4

    You know, back in the day, when it first started, the Oscars were a non-televised event, it was essentially a dinner, and the awards were all handed out within half an hour.

  • @ahmedhallajian8886
    @ahmedhallajian8886 2 роки тому +11

    Ngl the worst thing was the Kirsten Dunst incident - whack as hell even if it was scripted, felt super distasteful

    • @asid1818
      @asid1818 2 роки тому +1

      I didnt know about that until I read your comment, wow I feel terrible for kirsten :(

  • @LFPAnimations
    @LFPAnimations 2 роки тому +1

    The list of directors who never won an oscar is also the list of the greatest directors of all time. Seriously look it up. Kubrick, Lucas, Hitchcock, Orson Welles, Paul Thomas Anderson, Spike Lee, Nolan, and the list goes on. It is as if they intentionally miss the mark and occasionally accidentally pick the right one (like when Guillermo del Toro won).

  • @bobbytarantino3552
    @bobbytarantino3552 2 роки тому +6

    Nathan, imma let you finish but this video is already a classic

  • @crystalcastillo7575
    @crystalcastillo7575 2 роки тому +5

    You articulated the public’s thoughts soooo well. Another great video fr !!

  • @VJ-fr2zd
    @VJ-fr2zd 2 роки тому +10

    Was just watching the Grammy’s and was surprised by the amount of people that weren’t able to pick their award, might just been unfortunate but it stood out to me

  • @patrickt.6492
    @patrickt.6492 2 роки тому +8

    The only Oscar moment I've cared about in a long time was when that Korean actress won for Minari. And her speech was all about how she doesn't believe in competition. So maybe awards have always been a little silly and people are just now waking up to it.

  • @mivs9799
    @mivs9799 2 роки тому +12

    my take (as a film viewer) is I truly don't care for award shows just as I don't care about critics' opinions about shows and movies. I just feel like it shouldn't matter for us as viewers. on the other hand, I do feel like exceptional performances should be rewarded in some way - it just doesn't need to be televised and be made into such a huge event. like I just don't care about what these people are going to say in a 45 second speech. also, if I wanted to watch such a thing and turned on my tv only to see amy schumer...yeah

  • @edmilsonlennon2866
    @edmilsonlennon2866 2 роки тому +7

    When Sir Nathan uploads a video, I usually receive it during a Sunday night (like now) and it gets me prepared for the upcoming dreadful day that is Monday, keep on uploading at this time, grateful I really am

  • @ArtichokeHunter
    @ArtichokeHunter 2 роки тому +9

    i feel like giving awards is inherently a boring thing, like graduations. it's reading off names. idk why people decided it should be a show and not just like... give people awards. but i'm guessing they were just looking for a way to make honoring people into money, so that it could be less about being nice or incentivizing quality and more about capitalism

  • @RBAlejandro
    @RBAlejandro 2 роки тому +2

    "You were chosen by the streets" is top 10 best line deliveries of all time

  • @pptheastrologer6870
    @pptheastrologer6870 2 роки тому +2

    "Unfortunately, as a man who's never won anything, i had to come up with my own self worth " holy moly you just gave me a huge revelation, and no this thought won't be in my mind till I die

  • @lastraysofsun
    @lastraysofsun 2 роки тому +9

    I love how your videos are always both thoughtful and funny.

  • @max5851
    @max5851 2 роки тому +3

    “i like some of the tony hawk kickflips, the heck does he know about movies” - classic quote

  • @jjolatunji
    @jjolatunji 2 роки тому +2

    Award shows are pointless

  • @buttermilkjezus
    @buttermilkjezus 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks nathan, for that very subtle "walkin" sample you used, and giving validation to my taste in music. Straight up fire.

  • @Ronjulio11
    @Ronjulio11 2 роки тому +4

    Love the inclusion of that Kanye clip, it literally is why you’ll see more and more artists of all mediums start to not show. Only until they start respecting the craft of each artists will people respect any award or opinion they have to give.

  • @paperedwillows
    @paperedwillows 2 роки тому +3

    When Nathan revealed the rat under his hat, I cried. It was so beautiful.

  • @provyprov
    @provyprov 2 роки тому +1

    the year is 3022, humanity is dwindling, the earth is barely holding on, and Nathan Zed still hasn’t missed

  • @JordanNMusic
    @JordanNMusic 2 роки тому +5

    As a kid award shows were cool to see…now I’m less interested the more they come out