The Death of the Teen Dystopian Era
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2024
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Deathly Hallows was a 200,000 word book, I get splitting it. Mockingjay was half that, aka, ONE MOVIE.
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Deathly Hallows could have been 1 book also. There were HEAPS of scenes that could be cut out and still give the same atmosphere and idea( especially the forest scenes). For Mokingjay tho, it was absurd.
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The greatest thing about Katniss is that she wasn't a chosen one before doing something, she became a "chosen one" (in terms of propaganda) when she didnt want to. She was at the right place and the right moment.
yeah, she only volunteered to save her sister, which she failed at doing.
@@clarquagmire7480 yeah Prim died :'(
@@clarquagmire7480 thas fucked up
Yea, I think that's why huge audiences didn't "love" the last few. She kind of devolves as a person while usually characters develop over time. That's not a bad thing in my opinion, it actually made the story more realistic and hard-hitting because war does that to people. But I can see why popcorn audiences wouldn't enjoy it as much.
It’s a literal chosen one Chosen One narrative.
Thousands of languages and my guy chose to speak facts
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Think he just discovered low key. Keeps using it but clearly doesn't understand what it means Haha
Damn😂
Especially about Team Gale
Agreed
This is like how Game of Thrones was the most talked about media in the world and within 6 months it vanished off the face of the earth.
i pretend that s8 was a bad dream
This is actually a trope, it's called a franchise killer (game of thrones) and genre killer (Divergent).
Because people move on to Netflix the Witcher series
Never you worry, Wheel of Time will be coming out this year, and it WILL be amazing
@@Cycluing which is basically only a shadow of the books and games. Hope S2 makes it better and that it won't become such a „Teenage-Famtasy-Show“.
I remember seeing Catching Fire in Imax, and the moment when Katniss enters the arena and suddenly the ENTIRE screen is being used was EPIC.
I watched catching fire in the cinemas with my cousins when I was 6 or 7, I’m 15 now (reading CF at the moment) and I remember nothing of that movie😂 I can’t wait to rewatch it, maybe the memories will come flooding back lol
Edit: I realised after watching the movie (it was actually after reading the book, but movie visually) that the only scene I remember was the one where Katniss was being lifted up from the arena and the arena being destroyed behind her. THAT SCENE WAS CINEMA.
@@random-zz8ut No way, the one scene I remember very vividly is the exact one your just described with the forklift thing lifting Katniss up, such a profound moment
@@MarshPlays omg, wow, i guess it's just a very iconic and memorable scene
you just unlocked a memory in my brain wow😂😂😂
The main character of the Divergent Thrilogy is considered special for being a NORMAL HUMAN lol
Yeah. What's so special about having several personality traits?
I feel like there's maybe a way a singular book could make that work, rather than a series. Maybe a character who tried to fit the mold of one of the factions and having to accept in the end that they are multifaceted and that this is neither special nor bad. Yknow a coming of age thing in the same way Inside Out was.
But then we couldn't have had our super special main character who is great in every way. 🤷♂️
@@carliy9485 Well spoilers for the the books if I'm remembering this right, but that was actually a plot twist was that every else in has messed up genes from the government trying to make people that make their behavior fit into the categories and get rid of undesirable traits and people who are divergent are literally normal people. The cities they live are part of a genetic experiment to fix this and once they have enough divergent people they can integrate back into society.
@@elizabethliz146 oh, ok i dont remember much from the books
I think that was what was interesting though.
“This man does nothing for 3 movies straight” FACTS, Gale was just there, like literally, he served for nothing. And let’s not mention Finnick, I’m still recovering he did NOT deserve to die.
there was NO REASON for them to do Finnick like they did
Alright, Gayle may have been useless in the movies but in the books, he is a legit love interest.
We get to learn why he actually matters to Katniss and how their pasts were connected. In the movie, we are just told that he is important to her with no explanation.
I will admit, it's a little jarring to leave Gayle as a hopeless District 12 member and the next time see him as a paramilitary member. But then again, the series isn't ABOUT Gayle's story, so of course his character development happens off-screen.
I'm just saying, the movies did Gayle dirty.
@@nylahonthenet RIGHT? And the way he died...I can’t take it.
@@WhoWantsCake0 OF COURSE! I agree, 100% fair. I read the books too! And I completely understand your point, the movies are the ones to blame the lack of meaning behind his character. I wish they’d have took more care of that part, everything would’ve more sense. I’ve watched the movies a few times with friends and they are always asking me why Katniss cared so much about him or what was his purpose. And he had so much potential, damn.
I mean...of course Finnick didn't deserve to die. Unnecessary death was the theme of the books and his death was an extremely strong way to reinforce that
Tris: Sounds like “tres”
“Tres” = 3 in Spanish
Tris+Four=7
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Divergent, Insurgent, Allegiant, Detergent
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@@blvvlb6830 lmaoo
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It's so interesting how Percy Jackson maintained fan support even as the movies failed on everyone's hopes and expectations. We need justice for Logan Lerman that's a fact.
The books being good and having diverse characters definitely helped
Dylan O Brian is just the more expensive version of Logan Lerman. pretty much the same person
@@nms7872 i thought dylan o brian was percy jackson for the longest time LOL
@@nms7872 I’d argue it’s the other way around. Logan played the son of a god... while Dylan was a maze runner?
the sequel series, the comic adaptations, and the theater musical, all of which i mostly didn't read or watch but i heard they were very good. plus rick riordan is basically an anti-jk rowling.
I was so salty they split the Mockingjay book into two movies and yet still cut out important scenes to replace them with filler
Same!
That is just a cardinal sin. It's like they want you to hate the movie.
Dude I remember going to see part 1 in the movie theater with my friends. It was a school trip and I happened to have all of my friends in 1 class and everyone got along so the experience was legendary. We had minimal supervision so we were screaming at parts and fucking around. I miss the good ol days :(
@@pittaaaabread sounds like me and my friends when we went to see Breaking Dawn part 1 lmao
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The Hunger Games is still a good read/watch to this day, while I could go the rest of my life forgetting any other YA dystopian novel. It was just on another level.
I don't even like Dystopian stories but I love the Hunger Games
Definitely, it feels more timeless than the other ones I think bc it was based on Greek mythology which has stood the test of time as well as mixing in today's reality tv culture, it's just such a surprising and relevant concept
@Morgan Lalikos It's also important to point out that Hunger Games stood out from other dystopian novels. Other novels like Divergent or the Maze Runner focus on the hero and the defeat against injustice, but Hunger Games went a step further by showing the cost of this defeat against the unjust and the sacrifices the hero had make. In a way, it criticised it's own motives itself. Hunger Games felt more realistic as well, or like the most realistic one at least. We've seen and still see the pattern of some Katniss Everdeen again and again, and know real places like Panem - I mean look at Syria or Afghanistan or even Russia. Once saw a comment that went something like: "If you want to see the Hunger Games in real life, just turn on your news channel".
The hunger Games is the only dystopian YA series I liked because I thought the actual hunger games themselves were interesting. After number 2 when they took out the only thing that separates it from the million other despotism series, my interest plummeted. They are all literally “big bad government oppressing people, then revolution.” There is no meaningful variation.
Can't agree, first movie is mediocre at best and all the sequels are even worse. The characters are boring and the politics half assed, the game itself isn't even exciting, like they copied the concept of BR but none of the ideas that make killing games interesting.
Its funny i really liked Mockingjay part 1. I loved that she just became a tool of the resistance, that her symbol was more valuable than herself.. I really felt it was grounded in reality. Katniss becomes this Joanne d'arc character whom is only wanted to inspire people to fight.. all the while she is tormented by her own PTSD and plays chess with her goals and agenda of saving Peeta.
@@clarquagmire7480 I was honestly surprised at how realistic the movie portrayed "heroes" and propaganda.
Only thing i would change in part 2 was have more time pass between the victory and Katniss killing President Coin.
It could have been paced a little slower imo, so the weight of her action had hit harder.
I really think people are missing the point of the Hunger Games Franchise. It's not supposed to be a battle royale series where kids fight to the death. That's totally not the point. It's a movie about politics 100% It's about war, the effects of a revolution and the effects of civil war, what happens when a revolution fails, how rebel leaders use the people to their advantage, how there is no regard for human life etc...
People missed all these points and are just there to watch kids kill eachother 🤦♂️ that's not even why the government in the movie did it, they did it to keep the provinces divided and to always remind them of who is in charge. To give them a fake escape route, something to keep them distracted etc...
With that said. I really didn't like the 3rd movie. I felt it was very very boring and utterly pointless. Sure it had some good parts, but there was no reason to split the finale into 2 books. In my opinion, I think the finale would have been great if they just mixed part 1 and 2. They could have kept the propaganda plot, and kept Peeta at the capitol serving as an anti propaganda agent for the capitol. Instead of rescuing Peeta, they could have used the plot of part 2 where they had to go to the capitol, and then everything happens the way it did in part 2 and Peeta is rescued.
Then they can make a fast forward scene where Peeta is back to normal and Katniss chooses him over Gale, then the final scene of them in the future or whatever.
That, in my opinion, would have made it a great trilogy. The 3rd movie didn't work well for me. It was incredibly slow and boring and at the end nothing was accomplished. You can feel it was just a cash grab
@@alidokadri i guess they could. Though i didnt mind it being split in two... but i also prefer slower pacing. I mean i felt the time between the fall of Capitol and death of Alma Coin felt rushed. I would have liked it to develop more.. even if i already guessed that Katniss would kill her when Snow told her she had bombed the civilians to make Snows guards turn against him. I would have given the two moments a little more time to breath... unless they went for the spectacle.. but then they should have made it less obvious that Katniss would shoot Alma 🤷♂️
That was the only real complaint i had.
@@alidokadri imo if the viewers are watching to see kids Jill each other it's a sign of failure from the ppl making the plot. The setup of the first two movies didn't prepare for the big wars between the capital and stuff sufficiently.
@@alergames147 actually you have a point. When I first watched Catching Fire in 2017 I got that there were tensions, but the setup of an all out war was too fast. The first two movies showed the suffering of the people really well, but there were no hints whatsoever of a conflict coming. Maybe very few hints, but if you think about it, that's how revolutions work. They are random outbursts of rage by hungry, suffering people
Gotta squeeze them teen movies out before their stars don't look like teens anymore
They didn’t look like teens in the first place 😂
@@landryharrell7 fr look at shoes like PLL, Riverdale? You have adults playing teens…
@@lunarialoonatic well river dale did fix that problem they are now playing adults
@@lunarialoonatic you try working with a teen pumped on hormones and see how that works for you.
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The hunger games was the true queen of teen dystopian sagas
True king was maze runner
@@sunbeam4164 plz IT one of the worst, tue first movie is the only decent one
@@sunbeam4164 pls 💀 maze runner is okay at best
And still trash.
@@user-xx6vy9ri8p still better than those trashy Terminator sequels after 2
I actually liked every _Hunger Games_ movie, although less than the books.
Same bro
Preferred the movies
Wel same mostly but i hated the last movie and last book.
Tbh even the books weren't really good, Suzanne Collins is good at world building but the emotional scene is just lacking depth. She often skip and rush to the next part in the climate or when dealing with complicated emotions and plots. Like how she rushed my boy Finnick's death and she didn't even show much about the aftermath of the war, but she spent so many pages making the propos and other boring stuff. The pacing of the storytelling is weird sometimes.
You should read battle royals the original one
I’ll be honest, the Maze Runner had me in the first part. The maze was cool, the tribe dynamic was interesting, and then the awkward romance between generic white protagonist 312 and generic white love interest 471 started. After that, it was like “ok, the action scenes are cool, just ignore the awkwardness”, and then they got out of the maze, and it just became a zombie movie
I'm not into horror (I know most people wouldn't consider it horrific but it was very scary for me) at all and I'm terrified of Zombies the moment I saw them in the second movie I was like aight I'm done here
@@shirleytatha8189 I was kind of the same, but I just don’t like Zombies in general, they just seem kind of bland and inevitable to me
I actually quite liked Scorch Trials, but the books absolutely shit the bed after the first
@@theolast9727 Well, at least the movies were true to the source material
Same. I had to drop the books in the middle of death cure because of how dragged out the plot seamed.
being a teen who was an avid YA reader during this era was such an experience. Harry Potter, Hunger Games, Twilight, Maze Runner....reading all those books and then seeing them come to life....what a time to be aliveeee
Omg yess I had the best time!
During school every kid had one of these books stacked on their folders
Righttt!!?!? It was great
Y'all remember getting traumatized by the OG Battle Royale!
Yessss same!! It was so much fun :')
First the vampire genre, then teen dystopia. Now it's the woke teen movie and teen romantic comedy.
Too woke for their own good that it’s sad
yo stop putting blame on us teens for those stupid wOkE movies that adults make. We said we needed representation not a mary sue universe.
What are some woke teen movies? I can’t think of any at the moment
@@jkakaqw movies like the hate you give, moxie, the sun is also a star or they try to be progressive but still fall into outdated cliches like love, Simon or booksmart
Don't forget the dArK and dEpReSsEd version of shows/books we all loved like Riverdale, Winx Club and now possibly ATLA too
I do think the Hunger Games books deserve a new wave of appreciation (definitely more than twilight) cause they were actually trying to say sth, the political messages and the emotional/personal consequences for every character are actually fascinating, but so much of it flew over people's heads and the series that tried to do the same as THG incorrectly assumed it was the aesthetic that was most imp
“I am not like other girls, the movie” is so freaking accurate 😅🤣🤣🤣
Divergent was like a typical anime where the protagonist discovers something that makes them unique then at the next episode it turns out that there's a bunch of them the whole time
Yea. But the weird thing is that the second and the third movie have nothing to do with what happens in the books. When i watched the movies i was confused, thought i entered the wrong movie. And they decided to split the third book in 2 movies. They never finished.
I also hated that about "Arrow". Who wants to watch a super hero series where more and more people get the same skills as the super hero?
and there was literally nothing to her personality, her only personality trait is being divergent. which is confusing, because being divergent means you think different, but she didn’t really show that?
@@lmn6023 I mean I love Spiderman Into the Spiderverse and would gladly watch more of it
@@kitchristopher7 I don't get what you mean because Tris was different in the sense that her brain was normal and complete enough for her to show all human traits, whereas the people who were not divergent had brains that only let them show specific traits rather than all of them. So Tris thought differently enough to complete all those tests they put her under in order to question which faction she should be in
Teens started living in an actual dystopia, so fictional ones were no longer necessary.
Everytime I somehow run into u again in comments or a random video popping up it brings me back to a different time.
Is this the actual chocolate rain guy?
@@gmodrules123456789 he is
telco. Exactly given the time frame of these movies.
True haha
Wait this was hilarious and brilliant. Good work, Thn.
thanks bro love your videos!
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This is so true it's so funny
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I read this before I got to that part of the video and busted out laughing when I finally got it.
"You know what they call Hunger Games in Paris? Battle Royale with cheese"
What was that from, a comic book? Antman I think?
@@heinoustentacles5719
Pulp fiction
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see that's a movie worth watching, not this trash.
this comment gave me Cancer
the hunger games was an actually smart movie with something real to say and everything else was really just a bland copy that cut out the important stuff that actually made thg resonate with its audience
This.
Yes!! It annoys me when ppl lump it in with divergent, maze runner, etc., when it is clearly in a league of its own.
That’s Hollywood baby
And Hunger Games is just a bland copy of the Battle Royale movie. All art is inspired by other art.
@@bias2784 The Hunger Games wasn't bland, though, and it had something to say (unlike many of THG's derivatives). Of course it has a similar format to Battle Royale, but anyone who's actually read the books can tell you that a "bland copy" it is not. Whereas stories like Divergent seem to only ask "what if people, but different?" If you're going to use a trope, use it to say something.
Divergent is just the Hunger Games with Hogwarts houses
FACTS
HELP
pls, divergent and maze runner are more similar.
and no actual hunger games
Lmaoo ur giving it too much credit tbh, at least the Harry Potter houses made sense and is grounded in realism.
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Yes! This vid was honestly way more funny and relatable than I was expecting
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Of all these YA dystopian films the Giver was always my absolute favorite. The story was much less focused on the whole "empowered youth overthrow corrupt system" bullshit of other stories around this time and was much more focused on being it's own story, and that story is a powerful masterpiece. The movie does a fantastic job of visualizing the message behind the book which is that the human experience is uniquely powerful and it's our emotions and feelings that make us who we are. It is truly an artistic masterpiece and the movie has always been one of my absolute favorites
The Giver came out way before the other books, though. It wasn't really part of that trend.
So true! Great book and movie!
The teen dystopian era ended because we live in a real life dystopia rn
You got it right, I'm impressed
This deserves more likes
We live in a society
Exactly, it was fun to imagine a dark and hopeless world, not so much now we’ve realised we’re living in one
That...
Honestly this genre will probably be back in 2 years with the rapid rate of past pop culture trends being repeated so much recently
I hope so😂
I hope to god not. I fuckin hated the shit out of this genre and always did ever since it started lol
honestly tho esp with how tiktok is literally becoming tumblr, these ya trilogies would have a rebirth
YA just went from movies to tv
I don’t see it happening, but now it’s safe to say we’re in the era or Comics/Superhero movies
Honestly, this might be a hot take, but I feel like in the early 2010s the political climate allowed for a sort of "safe fantasy" of dystopia because it felt like play, and like EXACTLY when that was no longer the case the whole genre went under. This was an era before border walls and doomscrolling on twitter, so the darker fantasy offset the reality. Now quippy superheroes save the day because a lighter fantasy offsets our current reality.
Haha damn can’t believe liberals are so brainwashed to thinking we lived under a dystopian during Trumps term
@@kayzeaza imagine believing a comment on an international site is only about America... like the 194 other countries, and 4bil people on the internet don't count, that's brainwashed.
@@jinn2722 there's over 7 billion people on Earth.
@@jjgarcia156 7 billion people do not have access to the internet. Not everyone lives in the top percentile that has access to more than running water.
And people are getting over the quippy funny lighthearted superhero films.
What’s gaining traction now is dark superhero films (villain movies, The Boys, Invincible) people are tired of trying to pretend that we have heroes that will be our saviors.
That the world is not composed of heroes and villains, just people. Some people with more power than others, and those very same people with power who have sworn to protect us is not infallible.
Tbh Allegiant movie not having the second half was a saving grace because the way the book ends… I remember reading it and throwing it across the room 😭 never seen a teen YA dystopia autor make writing choices like that
Fr but the last movie was a lot different so maybe the ending was going to change???!
Honestly the hunger games is the only movie book adaptation that delivered everything, truly a masterpiece
I agree
That quadrilogy made me feel all the things😂
YEPPP rewatched it a couple months ago and I absolutely loved the trilogy its so good
@@hi-cl7qq you should read the books, it’s 183882x better
Yes! The rest didn’t give what they was supposed to gave
Not even a YA dystopian genre and I agree
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the maze runner is my favourite trilogy of this genre and i also like how each movie has a complete different style to the last
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The hanging tree scene is literally my favorite part of the trilogy. Just so powerful and emotional.
Can't even say there was a love triangle in the hunger games, Gale gave us **nothing**.
Absolutely nothing. I mean in the book he had a dimension but the movie Gale was so pathetic it made he katniss-peeta dynamic kinda bleak.
I found Peeta to be a simp. There were rare moments he was awesome, like the third movie, but I just found Katniss's love for him to be out of lack of options? &/ guilt of unfriending him?
He was still a cool character tho
The problem (beyond love triangles being overused and rarely actually good fandom bait) is that there was a love triangle from a plot perspective, but not from a character perspective. So you end up with the characters awkwardly shoehorned into it. Which is particularly ironic, since in the books Katniss is basically forced against will to pretend that she's into Peeta to satisfy a bunch of shippers so that she can survive. The books mostly avoided the love triangle and actually commented on how shippers are kind of disturbingly obsessive, and how shipping applied to real life becomes extremely morally gross.
So it's a love line with a extra dot
Well, in the books, Katniss was an idiot about the two freaking fracking boys. So yes, there was a HUGE love triangle that drove me CRAZY when I read those books.
10 seconds in: This is already a classic
I liked the video instantly because the intro, wasn't even sure I was gonna watch the whole thing, but entirely entertaining
You could say that again
Just finished the video and can confirm. This is honestly Nathan at his most funny and creative
Took you 10 seconds?
Views already a classic!!
By far the most popular movie during the Great Depression was 'Wizard of Oz', and the most popular song during the Vietnam War was 'Sugar Sugar'. People don't need or appreciate sad stories when they're already in the dumps.
Divergent spoiler. Allegiant ending: Tris gets shot after surviving everything, including the death serum and has Four throw her ashes out on the zip line
I have never been so mad in my whole life, I remember throwing the books out immediately 😅
@@sojulias same, although I was like 12 so I cried when she died XDDD
why would u write this here tho
@@ceciliafernandez3005 because the movies never made it to the end so people might be curious as to how it ended
@@ceciliafernandez3005 people don’t know how it ends if you’re film only LOL
I feel like a lot of dystopian books aren’t being made into movies anymore cause why make a movie when u can make a 8 episode Netflix original
THIS! Like how they recently adapted shadow and bone but i feel like movies would work better
Most YA novels are better as a show than a movie or franchise.
good point
@@marissac1670 I feel like series are better for world building than movies. Unless they decide to drag the series out for more than 2 seasons. Love show Parasyte. One season and they tied everything up perfectly.
The results are usually better overal anyway
divergent and mocking-jay being split up are 100% what killed the series lmaooo
In the 2010's it was annoying seeing Hunger Games and The Hobbit drawn out for financial reasons. I still saw all these films in theater or at home on DVD, but if you feel you have to go too far out of your way to just finish a trilogy or tetralogy then it may tamper the development of potential longer term fans. Idunno imagine a world where there was a hunger games tv show. Showing how the districts and first hunger games were established and all that, ending with the birth of Katniss and Prim, while a young President Snow slowly rises to power after a long time of playing his cards right.
The Hunger games movies didn't die out though they finished adapting all three lol. Divergent never even got split in the end it died way before that could happen.
@@bluesolace9052 this as a tv show would be fucking innnsaaaneee.
@@laur-unstagenameactuallyca1587 You know there is a book about that kind of (Ballad of the songbirds and the snakes)
Basically considering the Allegiant movie came out after the public wasn't interested in the teen dystopian trend anymore.
Allegiant was such a bad book and they were able to make the movie even worse. 😂
watching the movie made me appreciate the book. nothing is as bad as that freaking movie
The same thing that happened to the hot vampire genre I think. Twilight kickstarted that genre and there were a ton of copycats that flooded the market and oversaturated the shit out of it. And then here, hunger games did the kickstart, and same story.
Mockingjay the book also had a huge tonal shift too, Katniss was depressed, had ptsd (which is understandable after all that trauma) & a lot of readers didn’t like Katniss as much. I never agreed with that, it’s obviously much more realistic and normal for her to be having those mental health issues
i never thought of it that way but youre absolutely right. she suddenly came out of the games and she was forced to get out of the status & "glamour" that the games gave her. she basically became haymitch with how he was depressed and cynical cause she was tired of fighting
that's why I couldn't stand people who kept complaining about Katniss crying a lot and being hospitalised often, like... Did they want her to be another perfect Mary Sue who has either zero reaction to what is happening in her life or deals with it for one scene and goes back to being graceful and strong? It's unrealistic and would completely ruin the story.
I also loved that in the book (kinda the movie too) that Katniss isn't a one woman show. She doesn't single handedly take down an entire government. There are a lot of people there doing stuff, she's just part of it.
Agreed
When I first read it I was like 13 and I didn’t really like Katniss at the end because I didn’t have the knowledge or experience to appreciate how her character developed.
I think it's hunger games being good, then everyone tries to copy it.
I spent my early teens reading this books and watching these movies and 'fangirling' over them. I feel like the reason it died for me is simply because as I grew up I became interested in different genres so by the time the final 4th movies were coming out like 4 years later I had moved on. I grew tired of waiting and other genres caught my attention. They just didn't do well at keeping people coming back at the time. But then, over the first lockdown, I started re-reading these books all of a sudden, maybe as a form of escapism and comfort and as a way of going back to the past in a time of isolation.
The end message: 100% Percy Jackson was done dirty
They’re redoing them as a tv show on Disney plus!
@@kamilawernik737 I know! I'm very excited
Percy Jackson is trash compared to the greats
@@genghiskhan7691 Umm... okay? Your point being?
@@erikgrundy My point being is that there are better works of fiction in the same or similar genre.
(author of Divergent) "took three weeks to write the book"
ahhh so that's why the worldbuilding is uh... not so good
Wait really?
@@savannahshane2231 Which do you mean? The person in the video said what I put in quotes
and yeah, the worldbuilding of Divergent is more than a little wonky
@@savannahshane2231 as someone who is trying to reread the series. It sucks. I feel nostalgic over book 1 and book 1 only
@@herlocksholmes-uv5qw Agreed
the worldbuilding was not good...but it impressed me she wrote the book in 3 weeks and got me to kinda like it
MAZE RUNNER WAS AMAZING only because it was SUCH a break from what movies and protagonists have become. The main character was just doing good and never leaving anyone behind. Like, after watching The Walking Dead and other movies and shows after that, I sort of lost faith in trusting people after being exposed to their true nature (the constant idea being pushed that everyone only cares about themselves and people are expendable.) Maze Runner's main character just needed to save everyone even if the odds were against him. It made him so likeable because it meant that he would have probably saved YOU too haha.
I never thought I’d say this, but I miss the early 2010s. I miss how everyone just vibed and our obsessions were over tv, movies, and books, and music, and fashion. Now life is literally the dystopian novel we obsessed over back then. Yes Tumblr was toxic but you could escape it. Nowadays, the world IS Tumblr. We are living in Tumblr.
Nothing is fun anymore, why does everyone have to be so overly political?!!! Chill the fuck out.
I agree. 2013-present has been a gigantic mess.
People hated modern music in the early 2010s
I was obsessing about Undertale and still am. You don’t have to give up your obsessions. Ya just need to grow thick skin and learn to love yourself
Just because you're not interested in politics doesn't mean politics won't be interested in you. I think you just grew up and became more aware of the world around you.
@@TheGalaxyWingsyeah a lot of these turbo nerds weren’t paying attention when shit was falling apart
And are mad at where we are. No one cared about Citizens United which legalized bribery of politicians
I feel blessed that I was the right age when this genre was alive
Same bish
I discovered The Hunger Games film series as an adult. I liked them so much I that read the books. Those I liked even more. These books are brilliant.
Well I discovered it on my own and after the genre was dead..BUT OMG never been more obsessed with something. The way it feels going trough these books is just so amazing (and sometimes sad) and I’m so glad they exist. I’m living for these type of books, but that might change when I get older..hope not tho!
likewise, but i was the same age as the actors though, not the characters.. lol..
Yep! Same here! The Giver was my favorite personally!
Harry Potter’s success in the 2000s definitely paved the way for this genre in the early 2010s
You’re probably right but HP I’d say gave birth to Percy Jackson and the sorcerers apprentice
i disagree
That’s a fair assessment. No argument there at all lol
It was more like Hunger games inspiring the genere, but certainly Potter made a huge contribution to the Hunger Games success
Also, they both spawned half assed book adaptations from the same genere
Nah it is because of Twilight greatest romance and fantasy books and movies
Hunger games was much more than kids killing each orher to me. It was about being the underdog, and standing up against evil even though you have no chance of winning. Its not unique in that sense but it was my favorite story as a child, so nostalgia pkays a part too💜
Its strange because i feel this genre had a lot of potential and we just see failure after failure (not necessarily commercially, but critically)
"A Renaissance, if you will. A Renesmee-sance, if you won't"
“You’re not about to Straight to DVD me, I was HAZEL.”
i’ve been having such a bad few months and i just got recommended your videos and it’s been making my days
I just watched the four Hunger Games films for the first time this year, damn I was sleeping on that big time! they're fantastic. Mockingjay Part 1 was definitely the weakest but Part 2, Catching Fire and the first were fantastic. I loved the Maze Runner films, I liked the first Divergent alot. Shame this form of genre is dead, they make for killer films! :C
One thing I'm loving is that even in 2021, the Gale slander is still alive. Not only do we welcome Gale slander, IT IS ENCOURAGED!
@@leo-vb5jq While I agree she cared for Gale more because they grew up together, ultimately she knew she could not be with him because they are too alike. They share the same anger and hotheadedness (Coupled with the fact that she would never forgive him for murdering her sister).
@@cammyoungblood Whatt?? Gale killed Prim? When??? i Didn't she get bombed by snow?
@@niklasss Gale was the one dropped the bombs. They had double detonation. Prim went down as a medic after the first bomb but they didn't know it would go off again
@@leo-vb5jq Peeta Mellark lost a leg, had his whole family killed, and was literally tortured for months.......why wouldn't he be depressed? wtf is wrong with yall
@@leo-vb5jq stupid comment
when he started praising Catching Fire i nearly fell off my chair in excitement
CINEMA
@@erfyw YES
@@erfyw lol it ain't Cinema at least in Martin Scorsese's vision
@@genghiskhan7691 yes, it's a mainstream movie.
@@heinoustentacles5719 mainstream or not, it cannot be called Cinema though. Cinema is about art and reflection, pure entertainment, no some popcorn flick or theme park movie.
just discovered your channel last week and I'm freaking obsessed. this video is like you entered my mind and put all my thoughts in a video lol the gale part just killed meeeee
great channel. your enthusiasm is great!
The Percy Jackson books were so good that even the movies couldn't kill them
Rick Riordan is just built different to other YA authors
@@mattreyes4803 facts
@@mattreyes4803 the original PJO series is the absolute peak of YA. The sequel series are decent but those original 5 are criminally good.
@@mattreyes4803 apparently his newer stuff is garbage.
@@alastor8091 It is not garbage trust me, I love it, but its nit as good as the PJO series or the HOO series
I watch all of your videos so I can Shazam every single song, and take notes on every movie, tv show and cartoon being referenced!
Personally I really liked Mockingjay Part 1, given it was very "behind the curtain" and showed the politics of the uprising in that universe. That said, you are right, had they combined the two last movies into one and cut filler it would have been awesome. Having them split just caused both to be kind drawn out, especially the last one, at least imo.
I was in high school from 2011-2015 and just now realized that was the span of the entire genre. what a time.
which basically includes the ending of the Harry Potter movies as well bc they didn’t get dystopian until the end. A TIME
Same here 👀. I remember reading all the Divergent books out of boredom from my high school library and seeing all plenty of those YA Dystopia films lol
Same hahaha. Those movies were huge in high school. I hated Divergent, thought it was such a cash grab trying to ride HG's coat tails.
Same lmao really puts it in perspective 😂😂
Same
Hunger games was amazing and I’m sad it’s not talked about enough. Made some real good points about celebrity culture. I wish Hunger games got the hype twilight gets now.
did you read the prequel?
@@Hiyoyoful we do not talk about the prequel
I think it's because Hunger Games is really depressing which people did not want to watch during the pandemic
it’ll have its renaissance like Twilight is having now.. like he said, we need to give them time to breathe
be the change you want to see if we all start talking about hunger games it will get its renaissance
Percy Jackson 100% could be done again, and better.
There will be a Percy Jackson show on Disney+
@@anniechen9208 apparently it’s already coming along exactly how rick riordan likes it. though it’s only the beginning in the casting process, he’s involved so it’s gonna be good this tome
@@lilacs9848 Yep! I hope so
you are totally right on the over saturation part, as some one that was never really into this genre, i litterally thought there was like 1 divergent movie and like 2 maze runner movies because they looked the same as their sequal marketing wise ad they were released so quickly
"Short story long" Me trying to relay any anecdote to a group of friends
I have never been more enraged than I was at 13 watching Percy Jackson and the lightning thief.
It could have been the next Harry Potter
i'm cautiously optimistic about the upcoming tv show
@@yanstein8464 don’t be cautiously optimistic. The author himself Rick Rodent is going to be working on the show so he will make sure it’s done right
I'm sorry, but it could not
@@lunarialoonatic that's why i'm optimistic, if not that, i would just be indifferent
i try not to get my hopes up about anything, because it can fail oh so easily no matter how good the idea might be
Same. I was thinking Percy Jackson would end up as the next Harry Potter like franchise. But despite being a rich lore, it didn't translate to screen well.
my gf and I randomly binged the entire hunger games series recently and honestly...you said everything that needed to be said. that ASPECT RATIO CHANGE WAS SO HARD!!!
Damn this is my first time watching your videos and I'm loving it all ready. What u said loving tragic things happening to characters had me cracking up🤣🤣
I think these movies never survived because we as pre-teens and teens grew up, these were are weird coming of age story's tbh. And if I'm really being honest it makes sense as to why we as a generation don't trust the government, have a depressing outlook on life and have this weird apathy towards dying young especially for a cause we really believe in. Movies like these raised us.
I feel like the dystopian genre was originally made to serve as a warning for the future that could come from greed and overuse of technology and authoritarian governments. But somewhere down the line it was picked up from Hollywood as a teen fantasy vehicle that can be warped into a money making scene. If anything we should start seeing dystopian films about Hollywood staging on the same track it is now
I am 23 and i watch death cure
Agreed
Well, ish. Suzanne Collins was inspired to write THG in part because of the way the US news media covered the invasion of Iraq in 2003/4. If she had anything to do with her readers growing up not trusting the government, it was by making sure they saw what was already wrong with it.
the teen dystopian movie era is underrated, the movies were predictable and practically carbon copies of each other but best believe I was in the theatre buying tickets for each one.
Nothing but facts!
There was also a Teen Dystopian Era Trilogy of Books called Legend-Prodigy-Champion. You could tell it was also about to get adapted into a Film Trilogy, but since the Teen Dystopian era came to an end, the chances of a film adaptation disappeared.
I planned on just watching the beginning of this video then going back to my TV show. I got hooked and watched the entire thing. Totally going to subscribe 👌👌👌
"Now redo Percy Jackson, and do it better this time!" -Nathan Zed and everybody else on the planet
That horrible cut when Katniss volunteers has ALWAYS bothered me. I’m so glad you mentioned it lmao
Yeah
it’s a stylistic choice taken from the French New Wave
I gotta say it’s hilarious
I have to say it, but HG was an indie movie with bad editing and the fight scenes in the arena prove me right
@@starkingbiker of course. But some stylistic choices are awful.
As an example, lens flare.
Ugh so glad to see someone talking about this because I feel like lately I’ve been craving that hunger games dystopian type thrill again but there’s nothing 😭
Catching fire is still an amazing book, it’s so rare that a trope like the hunger games can last through a second book once it’s been played out in the first one but somehow catching fire managed to take it and make it twice as interesting and as mysterious. I’ll never forget how obsessed I was with that book when I read it in middle school, I could not put it down. I also think out of most of those teen dystopias that came out after, the hunger games is the one that actually holds up with something meaningful and important to think about that’s still relevant now.
Shout out to my favourite guilty pleasure genre, cheap dystopian action thrillers 😭
This video is amazing!! What a great analysis
I hope you feel honored knowing this is the video I chose to eat my chicken fingers to
😂😂 I had my salad 🥗 with it
I’m eating a pound bag of Trolli’s😂😂💀
The highest form of praise for UA-cam videos
"You are not Harry Potter. You are not even Hunger Games" 😂😂😂
😂😂
“He’s not Mario, or Mega Man, or even Michael Jackson. He’s just Milon.”
I don't know this chanel but this video was so goooood, you put everything I already thought about this topic in words I couldn't find by myself and also made it super fun ❤❤
Really enjoyed this video!!
They are redoing Percy Jackson! It's going to be a series on Disney+ Rick Riordan is heavily involved
@@no-ms4kj they haven't released the casting list yet. They're still trying to find someone to play Percy
@@no-ms4kj the casting call for Percy was someone who could “play 12” so I’m assuming that all of the campers are going to seem like actual kids which will make it miles better than the 20 some year old middle schoolers from the previous movies
NAH NAH NAH I LEARNED MY LESSON FROM AVATAR
@@nacrid2314 Disney isn't Netflix.
@@no-ms4kj yo chill your talking about my childhood crush. I 100% agree with you though.
The Hunger Games were also pretty violent for PG-13. Another thing I loved about them
I loved about them that violence was always portrayed from the perspective of the victims. The British film rating agency declared that they give THG a 12+ year rating because the violence is always portrayed very critically.
It was released in early 2010s back when media and critics are not woke and soft when it comes to PG13 violence. Now almost all the critics complains for a little fight scenes in movies. It's like they want movies to be super non violent like a children show for toddlers.
@@robertbench5187 Yeah, that isn't common nowadays either, dude. There has always been people who didn't like violence in movies, but just like 10 years ago... they are still being mostly ignored.
And it was shot to shit. Shaky cam did ruin the whole movie. Catching Fire was so much better. But... The japanese movie Battle Royale is the best movie with this concept
The Maze Runner movies are actually some of my favorites to come out. And they didn't split the ending lmao.
Man, i literally was thinking "I want a video about the YA movie rise and fall" and you give that very specifical video, thank you and i liked it a lot
The hanging tree song is iconic
it gives me chills
If you’ve read the Snow prequel, the song feels even more powerful and iconic
@@3drws314 i can't imagine how snow felt was katniss was singing it again
@@somebodyangry3890 IKR :0
@@somebodyangry3890 Me too, definitely the best part of that movie
This video reminded me of that weird time in 2013 when the entertainment industry was obsessed with the bow. Like every film and video game had a protagonist with a bow.
And the crossbow. Not to mention zombies were the main attraction until 2015 too…
Hollywood is always tryin to find a formula smh 🤦🏾♂️
Probably a female
And then the video game industry got caught up with it a few years later.
@@castlewhite1577 Yes before that video games were obsessed with the jet packs.
This video was hilarious man, keep up the great work
high quality content my man, subbed
Y'all already know that the Haymitch prequel would have come out by now if they hadn't made Mockingjay into 2 parts.
I’d agree with that if she hadn’t written the Snow prequel already. No one’s stopping her from writing more books. I’m hoping she writes Haymitch’s story. I suspect that I won’t like it as much as I want to. I don’t know that I would like young Haymitch as much as jaded, snarky Haymitch. But I would read it regardless.
What's the point of a Haymitch prequel, we were told his entire backstory already and we've even got plenty of details on how his games played out. Sure, it would be entertaining, but it wouldn't exactly bring anything new to the table.
@@fluffyfiber It could give a lot of background with Katniss' parents and Madge's. We know around their time peacekeepers were also corrupt and whatnot but we never knew why. We also never get an explanation for a lot of things- why was Katniss' mom kicked out (or left?) to go to the seam with Katniss' dad. We don't even know their names. What happened with the friendship of the mom, maysilee and madge's mom (considering they were close, hence the bird.) Haymitch says they took his "girl" or gf, could it be Maysilee? How the fuck did Haymitch winning like that affect the capitol and d12?
@@felicityguillen naw that shit is boring for a 500 page book lol. Thats some ela teacher interests.
@@katpiercemusic The life story of Haymitch is similarly harrowing as Katniss' story. Haymitch won one normal Hunger Games and one Quarter Quell, like Katniss. He did so with a lot of physical strength and more importantly, *superior intelligence* . He repurposed a tool of oppression created by the Capitol for his own advantage, and the Capitol made him pay a horrific price for that. The same happened to Katniss.
In Catching Fire, in preparation for the Quarter Quell, when Katniss and Peeta watch the video tape of how Haymitch won his Quarter Quell, Katniss smirks as she realizes how very similar she and Haymitch are. This realization gives her hope that she can also survive the Quarter Quell.
IDK IF PEOPLE KNOW THIS BUT WE'RE GETTING A DISNEY+ PERCY JACKSON SERIES AND THE BUDGET IS SUPPOSED TO BE AS BIG AS WANDAVISION'S!!!!!! i think this one is actually gonna be good, Rick Riordan wasn't involved in the movies at all but he's super involved in the making of this series
YES PLEASE
wait is this true
@@lizmoss yup! they’re in the process of casting Percy right now :)
@@lizmoss it’s very true :)
Omg make this a reality 😭
The rewatchability of every single one of Nathan's videos is off the fuckin charts man
first time seeing this channel. Love it.
I kept a sticky note day to day countdown to the Percy Jackson movie for several months, and I will never forget the confusion my 10 year old brain felt leaving that theater at having experienced disappointment that extreme.
Edit: After 10 years I’m finally feeling at peace having found this solidarity in youtube comment likes, thank you.
I made plans with three different groups of friends to watch it on consecutive days and it was the worst. Learned a lifelong lesson not to commit to seeing multiple screenings of something until after I've seen it once 😂
This was me with Eragon. That movie burned me! Taught me not to get my hopes up for adaptations of books I love, so I dodged the bullet on the Percy Jackson movie at least!
@@quinterbeck we don't talk about Eragon, everyone is scarred, I'm waiting for Disney to realise they could make a TV show of it for Disney+ that would literally be as big as Game of Thrones. They own the rights and everything.
@@phoebexxlouise At least Disney making the Percy Jackson series on Disney+
there is a series on the way its gonna be on Disney+