Came here because of Sadhguru but developed new respect for David Eagleman. Honest interview trying to learn/seek/discuss instead of trying to show off moderators' knowledge. Every other moderator should learn from DE.
I am an Indian, interested in spiritual knowledge, so I was just focusing on sadhguru's dialogues... but to be frank... I am more impressed by Mr. David Eagleman... 😍 one of the best listener I have ever seen... Both are genius in their own subject...
Sadhguru I listen to everything you have to say. For those who have ears to hear, let them hear. I wish I could be fortunate enough to spend a day with you just listening to your teachings. I am in the medical field and have taken my knowledge and branched out in a different direction. I now look after seniors. I try to impart my knowledge to people who want to hear that we can simplify our life and not run in several different directions. From young I have taken care of my body, I don't believe in taking medication for anything, and I do believe in eating healthy to take care of my body which in turn takes care of me. Thank you Sadhguru for going on youtube and bringing us your pure unadulterated knowledge.
THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST INTERVIEWS EVER. Where a person is actually curious about how mysticism works without undermining logic, and asks the most sensible questions without undermining mysticism. I AM IN LOVE WITH DAVID. Thank you so much for this♥️♥️
Great interview. Life is a experience to be lived . Finally I realize people thought I was mentally unwell . No one can make you feel very depressed . I stay from things that don't not me joy . Thank you Sadhguru.
Time 1:39:45sec if you dream of doing it, you can do it . I love this amazing incredible talk. I do not have any school exams or college from my youth, but I do have an adult education and practicing at the moment, presence. I also want to type in a humorous way, anyone reading this and where you are from, ever hear of the term when someone dramatises something we tell them to " get a grip of yourself" lol lol so so true. The handle or the knife ?
Sadguru, teaching idea of yogic culture to world is what which was missing these many years, and he is proving a point that this is the one culture which had enormous idea of life. And this culture only will bring peace to the world. And one more thing is, different religions fooled people and had destroyed humanity with the poor idea of life, Sadguru is filling the gap. Thanks Sadguru.
@Beena Zaidi Just asking you to Could it be that your response is driven from the identity mind, what this man described as the second mind. My own thoughts...if a man is trapped in his idead of identity, no matter whether in my backyard or yours, and which I think most of us are, we are going to be what we are today. Because of our education, and feeding of ideas from all sources, we have become a world who we are. Only if we transcend that, the world will no longer be collection of countries but just one entity. By saying that I limited myself to another identity...one world. But that was to trying to bring you out of a (probably) a smaller identity of a country or a region. Nothing against no one. Just discussion. I believe everyone is right.. One who says it black and also the one who says its white. Because that's what their identity mind tells them. It must apply for me too. Cheers
It is sadguru's openion. It is not prooved at all. So we can not say the whole world will one day follow. Like sadguru many more are there with their own points and cultures.
I am immensely enjoying this hard to process conversation. 🙂 There are so many boundaries in this conversation, and I love how they are working together to understand each side. I fully understand neuroscience, as a person with a passion since childhood. I am an avid follower of Sadhguru. I've have amazing dreams of what a conversation would like between these two types of "human observers", so wise in their works and fields, yet still so different, like oil and water. I contend that these two subjects combined with Great care, can help us gain that inner engineering goal, and assist in healing traumatic injury. Thanks for the share.
First time watching David I can see an smart individual a great interviewer plus what makes him very interesting his humility and being honest and open and giving Sadhguru time to talk and him just being open and listen he made it all about Sadhguru which that is how it should be because he is the interviewer . Great talk
That’s a conversation between two free men. Both are so similar within themselves sadhguru and the scientists. Different perceptions lead to other timelines and language is definitely a barrier between humans, that’s why we have achieved so little in so many years just because of a trapped mind.
World is fortunate to have you SADGURU. A video which had answered every question. David Eagleman is a gentleman patient enough to tap the ocean of knowledge. As you say human knowledge is very minuscule for to have the vast knowledge. Namasthe, Pranam Guruji.
I am just amazed the amount of patience sadguru had . Like they must have been sitting for 3hrs or so . Seriously it's amazing. It was insightflu for me personally
“Look at life just as life, not as to how it is useful. Life may not be useful. It is a phenomena beyond our use. It’s a phenomena to be experienced. We have come here to EXPERIENCE life NOT TO USE life.” - Sadhguru
I listen to Sadhguru a lot and really like him, he is great. However, I felt he wasn't touching on the valid points David was bringing up throughout this discussion, he just kept reverting back to his base points. I would've liked to see Sadhguru listen more closely to David and not interrupt him.
@@pratikkhanal9464 Everyone has flaws, yes. However, the point to take home is not the flaws but the good points coming forth. Our good judgment should prevail. Cheers.
He responded, however, his response wasn't always an answer, he often interrupted so he wasn't really listening. Is that the best a guru can offer? Listen to Thich Nhat Hanh for example.
I didn’t get that, but I did notice that he is using humor and relating science back to the human in all the human limitations along with the incredible extraordinary experience in life.
This shouldn't be perceived as a debate whether someone who comes from mysticism or science is wiser. Science is a tool that examines mechanisms in the physical realm and tries to decode it. Mysticism is a tool of exploring the spiritual realm. Each tool serves a different purpose. We need both. Maybe both interlocutors are climbing the same mountain just from different sides. Both of them should be respected because both of them are contributing to society and both of them are doing their thing with their hearts put into it.
Understanding the Arabic language, I perceived... Shiva = that which is not Al Lah = that which is not. Many generations ago, our elderly experienced the knowing, with time it became knowledge and “know how” without really “knowing why” Sadhguru, thank you.. I’m finally looking within instead of the nonsensical path of looking, somewhere, to reach the knowing.
Allah means that which is not too?! How do I not know this yet! Wow!! More and more confirmation. The One Infinite one sure works in mysterious ways! Thanks man.. a gift from the self to self.. 😉 And it's always wonderful to see people turning inward.. not because someone said to do it... But just going and experiencing it and seeing it for yourself. And finding an expert to help at the beginning is important I think... Will continue to do what I can.. but me personally is waiting to find someone like Sadhguru to just introduce to the system.
how you write the word changes its meaning, in one mystic writing ALLAH describes Arm Leg Leg Arm Head which describes the human body which would coincide with the notion that God did create humans in Their image
Salman Tajamal With respect for all, (on many subjects,) more wrong than ( Naik ) there isn’t .. “I’m alluding to the link UA-cam videos you included in your comment” La = no Lah = not, same thing... I didn’t learn my Arabic online. and yes, with time this word became synonymous with the word God, for translation purposes. The Jewish faith has never been allowed to name “God” or to use any sound to allude to the one God. The only words they can use to name something that isn’t is YAHWA YAVE etc. which most probably means the way to get to know, that which is not.. and YAVE or Yahwa is most probably an old word for yoga. Pagans back then, realized they couldn’t live without water, food, wind, light etc. So they used to pray for all these things and form a deity for each thing and worship them. Then they realized that the greatest and grandest thing out there is the emptiness. That witch is not. And yes it is the greatest thing out there and science has proven that even inside an atom the most grand thing 99.99% is emptiness or nothing. Does this sound to you like the most famous phrase in the world of Islam today? Allah Akbar = That witch is not is the greatest or grandest thing. Did you ever ask yourself, what was inside the building of Makka ? All types of pagan statues alluding to different Gods, and pilgrimers used to go there to pray all Deities at the same time at least once in their life. “Long before Islam” Until Mohammed ( peace be upon him ) destroyed all the statues and said... la ilaha illa Allah.. right? Notice please.. ilah = god Allah = that witch is not ( the-not ) In pure translation: No god but that witch is not So please don’t use the word “ ilah” Mohammed (pbuh) said no ! Too much coincidence to be ignored. In my opinion the most perfect word in Arabic, to describe the greatest & grandest thing out there.. “Allah” Indeed Allah Akbar.. That witch is not is the greatest thing. By the way, Jews also respect a period of time, called SHIVA, right after the death of someone, they remain praying the Shiva, for the soul of the departed loved one, for a good week almost. Because they know that the physical body remains eternally on the ground, the knowledge we gather becomes anyway almost useless with time or gets surpassed by better theories, and the breath of life or soul or call it whatever, returns to its origine.. to that witch is not.. Allah. Shiva. I’m not starting a new theory here, I just noticed what’s obvious. Now if you wish to believe without questioning, only what dr. Naik says, it’s your choice.
Jaggi is really really built in personality from science to whatnot the logical flow to explain express his knowledge is incredible and the moderator too is quite a knowledge person so he is polite in discussing and I wanted this to prolong still more.excellent intellectual conversation between two great people.
It definitely has helped people understand what I believe, that it's not about the happiness or contentment we are all and why we do search for which gives us a result . But Its about learning the way of both the 2 different people learn but how we feel and then the result of the understanding before we use it. Such as a word used here would be, nuclear and its results. So if we all had the understanding of clear consciousness, then the world would be an amazing place, everywhere.
Never had such a sweet debate, though poles apart their points are, there we could see acceptance of life to life. Great debate David Eagleman, subtle way of life colliding with life, can't be be better a debate be ever.
Can u tell us abt that.........that's a sound of genuinely wanting to know.......No egos, no complexes ......real state of mind which is required in the current times.
I'm grateful for apps because if I didn't have my computer tuned in to this marvelous person I may never receive his brilliance and be able to find his shoppe near me.
Sadhguru would enjoy having conversations with many awakened scientists and medical sciences at the current forefront in the turning point of phenomenal change in this lifetime like Bruce Lipton, Joe Dispenza, Greg Braden. They know experientially there's more than mind of brain and body that cannot be defined, and have merged wisdom and knowledge in their works, as Sadhguru says, the knowing of using the sharp instrument "knife" intellect.
Super useful conversation! Humanity needs to properly explore the brain vis-a-vis spiritaulity so we can live life better. Sadhguru is quite right about the misleading role of eduacation, but nevertheless we are all educated to some level because we see, hear, and learn from our environment. Even Sadhguru is educated, he speaks English and dresses Indian, and he understands the human problem that needs solving... though it's good that he knows and teaches that education is part of the problem.
You have to go inward. Meditate in silence only naming what you hear then watching your thoughts name it then put it down and on to the next thought. By watching your thoughts and not identifying with them not labeling them as good or bad you will then open up a space. Hold this opening for as long as you can and then once finished watch a possibility open up. Something fulfilling so fulfilling. It might not open up for a day or two but usually it is immediate. This is garunteed!!!!! Try it! Life does not want you to know know know. It is all about not knowing so the surprise is fulfilling! The more you practice the more the subtle joy develops. It's happened to me unconsciously twice before and this time I investigated more and I've found it for the third and final time. Now everything is going right the conscious creating it happening not ego creation but cosmic creation. The actual path that was designed for me not my ego trying to create!
I would love to see/hear the truth of what science truly is or means being shared or made widely understood, appreciated. It is a principle or discipline, an understanding of how to learn, explore etc in a truthful way, beyond personal bias. How to achieve knowledge found being universally true. In the true definitions, there is no opposition or contradiction between science and spirituality. Often spirituality is more dedicated to universal truth, but true spirituality must be in harmony with scientific exploration. Truth is not only subjective. It is what really happened, what really is happening and what will really happen. Is one clear, universal and true definition and understanding. Like nothing can come from nothing as an absolute concept. So there was never nothing. 1 Love
It is sad to see people here who try to dis... credit and have a "ha, I know, you don't" moment on behalf of the scientist. He is a smart person and willing to try to understand the view of sadhguru, also has to manage those different kinds of views and always tries to find comments ground. Let me remind you, that it is him who tries to understand the other side, it is not so much sadhguru who wants to learn about his deep knowledge of his scientific specification.
Thanks to science i m hearing guru ji laud and clear Thanks to guruji M observing or precieving different So using an apratus is equelly important to enhance the life Coz without this Handy or computer youtube i couldnot recieve any worthy instruction so fast
The future is integrating the spirituality and science. One without the other is incomplete. And with two(spiritual and scientific knowledge) integrated into oneness, understanding and creating anything is possible.
I want to be in this conversation so much that it almost hurts. I see them both struggling to communicate, just on the edge of eureka, and feel I could translate in the necessary way to bridge that gap
David Eagleman is really like a literal "Eagle Man". Very sharp (intelligent) yet very keen to listen. I know he has a lot of things to say but he just said about 1% of it. The best conversation I ever heard. Like I don't want to end this scene. But to summarize, what's next in life or in the cosmos as a whole is all about a GUESS (scientific or not). Sadhguru talks of Inner Engineering while Eagleman is on the science side that is based on human senses. But as an ordinary person, Inner Engineering is too deep to fathom for an average person while science (As Eagleman said) is still too young. My guess is this: I agree with Sadhguru that science is: you study one and will lead to another, and to another. Sadhguru pointed out that if we just master or understand the 5 elements, then we can have all the access to life. But I would disagree with that because we can't eat the whole bread in one bite. We need to understand the whole idea piecemeal. My basic understanding of science is that it is the pursuit of knowledge but it's tracing something. Right now, science starts the tracing from the main branch going to the roots, then to the twigs, then to the leaves until science will then picture the whole TREE. Similar to the so-called 4th dimension idea, it would be hard to tell that we are living on a tree if we do not see the WHOLE tree first.
This is the best video from Sadhguru that I have watched. That of of course also means that the other person in the video has asked the right questions or made the right points to elevate this conversation
The four realms of the mind are on point - Intellect , identity , accumulation of memory and pure intelligence unsullied by memory (ie the soul). If today’s scientists focused on these 4 components rather than being stuck on simply the first one , hindered by the second’s subjectivity it would be a great start
Consciousness doesn't exist without perception. Imagine a human born without any perception or placed in a contraption that removes any and all perception. Would you define this human to be conscious at any point of his/ her life...?
@@SHOOTINGDNA Again, that would be your perception of that human not having consciousness. We will never know if that human baby knows consciousness without being in his shoes. Apologies, if this is not on the same line as what you asked!
@@SHOOTINGDNA he is dragging our attention into that intelligence that works unconsciously in our life. Life doesn't need perception to live, but survival. In a sleep you are somewhat like having limited perception. 😴
I believe consciousness is emergent property of the continues perception. Because without all our senses , There are no memories (speech, touch, taste , sound ,warmth,smell), there are no dreams. If you still say that he/she might be conscious, then you have to define consciousness.
Its interesting to see this young man....trying to understand something he hasnt experienced, Sometimes you have to have faith that here is something more....LET GO....experience yoursell.....and magical things you dont understand scientifically.....and then maybe you can explain it scientifically.
This conversation is one of my favorite. I do think (with all the respect that) Sadhguru should have taken a different turn in the conversation when he went in the direction explaining that Shiva explained all this 15,000 years ago. This puts a scientist and audience in a difficult position because not many people are mystics unfortunately.
I don't know if it is true but I heard somewhere that Sadguru claims he remembers his past 10 lives. That he hasn't read the scriptures but knows them from his past lives. You can agree or disagree. For me, I neither agree, or disagree. Freed myself from those clutches of right/wrong, good/bad, and similar comparisons. Feel more at ease without those complexities of judgments.😊
are u educated? yes! oh really? ............ this is in the sense of as sadguru always say- educated mean u know everything in this life....so everyone is learner not educated ..............................,, bro this is like in intellectual sense not in normal life using word❤
@@adityarajbarnwal9258 Oh yes. Trur. If one says "I am educated " the door for more (learning) is shut. Possibility of enhancement is doomed. It's a continuous, non stop journey. 👍
This conversation can lead you to discover the mysteries of the universe... If you dare to or smart enough to grasp what Sadhguru is talking about.... And investing some time and energy and resource to the process... Even your education was a process... Without any process one can not learn anything... And he is talking about something that you had no idea existed or believed not possible.. so yea.. Sadhguru is doing whatever he wants in his dream/reality- reality/dream.... It's about time humanity learn of the so freaking called 'The Occult Knowledge' which was hidden from them by one of the force that governs the creation... That is the negetive aspect of creation or bad guys or bad entities influencing people in power..
I think it's worth giving it a try , I'm not sure whether we'll get to know The Truth but I'm pretty sure so many things will unfold which science has not been able to do far
Sanatan dharma of ancient India had two streams...Theist and Atheist. Yes, atheism was given a proper recognition as the idea of sanatan dharma was seeking truth and you could try any means. Budda was from Atheist stream and propagated his teachings which he also picked up from contemporary Theistic Sanatan dharma. Shoonya (शून्य in sanskrit) is also a concept from hindu sanatan dharma.
I find myself frustrated with Sadhguru in this. He is communicating a profound concept. Through meditation and reflection he has found a deep understanding of himself. This understanding has been a powerful tool for finding peace and detaching from the desire that gives our ego control over our inner selves. But he has taken this understanding of himself as a fundamental truth about the physical nature of our universe. He did not seem to listen to the scientist or actually discuss the important topics the scientist brought up. Most importantly, the mountain of evidence pointing towards the purely physical medium for consciousness. Instead, Sadhguru always just returns to his talking points without addressing the scientist. He admits his ignorance to science, which I have a lot of respect for. But his lack of education clouds what he can know about reality. He is limited to spiritual thinking, which is not a tool we can use to obtain objective knowledge. It is a tool for introspection. Most comments here see Sadhguru as infallible. Be wary of your biases. Question everything. Through inquiry and skepticism of all perspectives, we can come closer to the truth. Before watching this I viewed Sadhguru in a somewhat idolized light without knowing it. He is very wise and I have learned much by corroborating his perspective with what I have learned from other mentors and in meditation. But I must always take a step back and remember that each individual is just a person.
Enjoyed reading your perspective. I agree with everything that you said, but i think that alot of how Sadhguru speaks when attempting to communicate his points gets lost in interpretation. While the foundation of his perspective is based on an understanding of himself, what he speaks to is that modern science, in its attempt to understand consciouness, will always fall short trying to find it within the physical reality. The reality that can only be percieved through the five senses. There is no tool, by physical means, that will ever be able lead you any closer to understanding it. Its a concept that we've lost as a collective, which modern science completely avoids, and only focuses on the physical to explore non physical things. Think about it, modern science is only good for the discovery of new tools. Things that can provide efficacy and convenience. Mystics have always analyzed the nature of reality in its totality, beyond what could just be made to use and industrialize as a product. This has been the quest of the human since we gained this magic called consciousness. We in the west (believing youre here too) only utilize yoga and meditation to ease ailments, relieve stress, detach from the ego, ect. What no one here realizes, is that spiritual systems of almost every kind were built on the awareness of our death. Because once we became "conscious" after being apes or whatever we were before we then became aware of "time", which is then followed by death. What mystics understand is that, yes you can explore this reality and make it as nice as you want. Big house, cars, family., a dog, vacations, whatever you want you can have in most cases. BUT, in the end you will die, and what will do??? Do you go to heaven? Hell? Is god waiting for you?? or Satan? Krishna? Muhammed? Doesnt matter what you believe, but you will end up somewhere after this, and mystics believe they can control that outcome, and generate a destination of their own creation. This is what every mystery system is about, not a question or debate, humans have searched for immortality since we began. The funny thing about it tho, is that its a lottery system. Not everyone wins.....
@@Burnmarx here is the problem with your statement. You are making the exact same mistake as sadhguru while believing I don’t understand sadhguru’s message. As an experienced meditator who has learned from many sources, I assure you I understand what Sadhguru is professing as knowledge. I have experienced the “inner self”, and I have been vastly empowered by this connection. That being said, you take his points a step further implying that you have definitive knowledge that you know an objective truth that science can never measure because it is beyond the boundaries of the tools of science. With all due respect, this is absolute rubbish. You cannot verify a truth by counciling yourself or listening to people around you. You can hear your own ego professing knowledge in lines like “heaven? Hell? Jesus? Mohammed? *you go somewhere when you die*”. In reality, there is absolutely zero empirical data about this claim. A oneness with the universe can only ever be a source of peace within ourselves, and a powerful one at that. But this inner peace can never give us answers about the nature of the universe. When you or Sadhguru say they know something science cannot understand, they are showing a ignorance to what science is and what it can do. I find this frustrating because science and enlightenment are not mutually exclusive. This can’t be understood except with great experience in both realms. Sadhguru is expressing wisdom in a way that puts science beneath him, elevating spirituality to transcendence. This is a baseless position to take
@@dutonic Your answers show that you're stuck on the surface, regardless claiming having learned from many sources. You might think that you know a lot, but you don't even realize that you're stuck only on the elementary. Free your mind from assumptions and thinking that you have known "so much". And maybe you can see deeper.
Hey fellow humans! Can anyone give me more Informationen on the process of freeing yourself of the memories of your ancestors Sadhguru is discribing around 1:41:00. Maybe a name that I can research? I came across C.G.Jung a while ago an the similarities are amazing!! It feels like they are talking about the same things with different names. Jung calls it the process of individuation. I started that…but more tools/methods used by Yogis would be great. Thanks so much!!! ♥️♥️♥️
Let's also for a second appreciate David Eagleman's listening skills. A beautiful conversation indeed!
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He wants to go beyond the real thing and meaning of life.
God mode listening skills to handle all that crap.
It is how you come up with beautiful questions and answers to the previously asked questions.
Absolutely 🙌
Dr. David Eagleman, bravo on listening skills, being humble, and constantly seeking knowledge. Amazing conversation. 🙏
I agree with you. Have a look at my comment hey. It's just my thoughts according to what I have seen abd endured
Humble and kind.
It is difficult to sit and listen to the closed minded perception of David as he fumbles around connection with Sadhguru
Came here because of Sadhguru but developed new respect for David Eagleman. Honest interview trying to learn/seek/discuss instead of trying to show off moderators' knowledge. Every other moderator should learn from DE.
Exactly.. 🙏
His book “incognito” is truly worth reading.
Love his listening skills
Check out The Brain. Documentary hosted by David Eagleman, good stuff.
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I like his recent book Codex of the Celestial Dream.
I wanted this conversation to go unending ...this was so scientifically mystically glorious
I am an Indian, interested in spiritual knowledge, so I was just focusing on sadhguru's dialogues... but to be frank... I am more impressed by Mr. David Eagleman... 😍 one of the best listener I have ever seen... Both are genius in their own subject...
This is one of the most important video in human history.
I agree
First time Sadhguru was impressed by an interviewer, he already accepted him as his disciple
Who accepted who😂
I feel bad for you folks
@@cheesepie455 I think they both sat there to discuss nd when we discuss we sit on table as seekers . I feel bad for u
@tashugarg2621 no no i feel terribly bad for your naivete.. 😂🙃😉
When humans come together and share ideas it's a beautiful thing...we actually get to grow as a race
yea but you understood nothing out of him. you still think and identify with race.
Sadhguru I listen to everything you have to say. For those who have ears to hear, let them hear. I wish I could be fortunate enough to spend a day with you just listening to your teachings. I am in the medical field and have taken my knowledge and branched out in a different direction. I now look after seniors. I try to impart my knowledge to people who want to hear that we can simplify our life and not run in several different directions. From young I have taken care of my body, I don't believe in taking medication for anything, and I do believe in eating healthy to take care of my body which in turn takes care of me.
Thank you Sadhguru for going on youtube and bringing us your pure unadulterated knowledge.
i realize I am pretty off topic but do anyone know a good place to watch newly released movies online?
@Prince Francis i watch on flixzone. You can find it on google =)
@Prince Francis I would suggest flixzone. Just google for it =)
Thank you for doing what you do.🙏
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THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST INTERVIEWS EVER. Where a person is actually curious about how mysticism works without undermining logic, and asks the most sensible questions without undermining mysticism. I AM IN LOVE WITH DAVID.
Thank you so much for this♥️♥️
I can listen to Sadhguru the whole day
And you’ll get dumber.
Same
You need a doctor.
So many things to digest and still I want to hear so much more
Wow, this is freaking awesome what a conversation.
Sadhguru is one of the most important human beings in this generation. How fortunate we are to be alive and learn from him!
The most highly egoistic and stubborn with the usual general knowledge
Great interview. Life is a experience to be lived .
Finally I realize people thought I was mentally unwell .
No one can make you feel very depressed . I stay from things that don't not me joy . Thank you Sadhguru.
Time 1:39:45sec if you dream of doing it, you can do it .
I love this amazing incredible talk. I do not have any school exams or college from my youth, but I do have an adult education and practicing at the moment, presence.
I also want to type in a humorous way, anyone reading this and where you are from, ever hear of the term when someone dramatises something we tell them to " get a grip of yourself" lol lol so so true. The handle or the knife ?
the handle or the knife ?
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Well the handle being you and the knife being your ego i guess, which one would you pick ? 🤔
Love from Italy!
Sadguru, teaching idea of yogic culture to world is what which was missing these many years, and he is proving a point that this is the one culture which had enormous idea of life. And this culture only will bring peace to the world. And one more thing is, different religions fooled people and had destroyed humanity with the poor idea of life, Sadguru is filling the gap. Thanks Sadguru.
@Beena Zaidi Just asking you to Could it be that your response is driven from the identity mind, what this man described as the second mind.
My own thoughts...if a man is trapped in his idead of identity, no matter whether in my backyard or yours, and which I think most of us are, we are going to be what we are today. Because of our education, and feeding of ideas from all sources, we have become a world who we are. Only if we transcend that, the world will no longer be collection of countries but just one entity. By saying that I limited myself to another identity...one world. But that was to trying to bring you out of a (probably) a smaller identity of a country or a region.
Nothing against no one. Just discussion. I believe everyone is right..
One who says it black and also the one who says its white. Because that's what their identity mind tells them. It must apply for me too.
Cheers
It is sadguru's openion. It is not prooved at all. So we can not say the whole world will one day follow. Like sadguru many more are there with their own points and cultures.
I am immensely enjoying this hard to process conversation. 🙂 There are so many boundaries in this conversation, and I love how they are working together to understand each side. I fully understand neuroscience, as a person with a passion since childhood. I am an avid follower of Sadhguru. I've have amazing dreams of what a conversation would like between these two types of "human observers", so wise in their works and fields, yet still so different, like oil and water. I contend that these two subjects combined with Great care, can help us gain that inner engineering goal, and assist in healing traumatic injury. Thanks for the share.
Congratulations to both man. A very respectful dialogue the way it should be.
The essence of many gurus is now reaching the world through sathguru
I can listen to sadguru talking about anything all day long. 🙏🧘🏻♀️
I cant get enough of him😂
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Mental gymnastics is ur thing. He is ace
r u crazy themn
First time watching David I can see an smart individual a great interviewer plus what makes him very interesting his humility and being honest and open and giving Sadhguru time to talk and him just being open and listen he made it all about Sadhguru which that is how it should be because he is the interviewer . Great talk
That’s a conversation between two free men. Both are so similar within themselves sadhguru and the scientists. Different perceptions lead to other timelines and language is definitely a barrier between humans, that’s why we have achieved so little in so many years just because of a trapped mind.
World is fortunate to have you SADGURU. A video which had answered every question. David Eagleman is a gentleman patient enough to tap the ocean of knowledge. As you say human knowledge is very minuscule for to have the vast knowledge. Namasthe, Pranam Guruji.
I am just amazed the amount of patience sadguru had . Like they must have been sitting for 3hrs or so . Seriously it's amazing. It was insightflu for me personally
“Look at life just as life, not as to how it is useful. Life may not be useful. It is a phenomena beyond our use. It’s a phenomena to be experienced. We have come here to EXPERIENCE life NOT TO USE life.”
- Sadhguru
WoooooWooooooo
I listen to Sadhguru a lot and really like him, he is great. However, I felt he wasn't touching on the valid points David was bringing up throughout this discussion, he just kept reverting back to his base points. I would've liked to see Sadhguru listen more closely to David and not interrupt him.
Everyone has some flaws. Even Sadguru.😊
Exactly. I was trying to find someone who felt the same.
@@pratikkhanal9464 Everyone has flaws, yes. However, the point to take home is not the flaws but the good points coming forth. Our good judgment should prevail.
Cheers.
He responded, however, his response wasn't always an answer, he often interrupted so he wasn't really listening. Is that the best a guru can offer? Listen to Thich Nhat Hanh for example.
I didn’t get that, but I did notice that he is using humor and relating science back to the human in all the human limitations along with the incredible extraordinary experience in life.
Arguably the healthiest conversation UA-cam has. Pure wanting to know. Great job Mr Scientist!
This shouldn't be perceived as a debate whether someone who comes from mysticism or science is wiser. Science is a tool that examines mechanisms in the physical realm and tries to decode it. Mysticism is a tool of exploring the spiritual realm. Each tool serves a different purpose. We need both. Maybe both interlocutors are climbing the same mountain just from different sides. Both of them should be respected because both of them are contributing to society and both of them are doing their thing with their hearts put into it.
You are trying to label science as a limited thing because that makes you feel secure about your principles..but science is far bigger
“They say how long a minute is depends on which side of the bathroom door you’re on”
I like it
What is point, can you explain?
There is so so much to expierience....very interesting to watch the inteligent and the wise......
Understanding the Arabic language, I perceived...
Shiva = that which is not
Al Lah = that which is not.
Many generations ago, our elderly experienced the knowing, with time it became knowledge and “know how” without really “knowing why”
Sadhguru, thank you.. I’m finally looking within instead of the nonsensical path of looking, somewhere, to reach the knowing.
Allah means that which is not too?! How do I not know this yet! Wow!!
More and more confirmation. The One Infinite one sure works in mysterious ways!
Thanks man.. a gift from the self to self.. 😉
And it's always wonderful to see people turning inward.. not because someone said to do it... But just going and experiencing it and seeing it for yourself.
And finding an expert to help at the beginning is important I think... Will continue to do what I can.. but me personally is waiting to find someone like Sadhguru to just introduce to the system.
how you write the word changes its meaning, in one mystic writing ALLAH describes Arm Leg Leg Arm Head which describes the human body which would coincide with the notion that God did create humans in Their image
Salman Tajamal
With respect for all, (on many subjects,) more wrong than ( Naik ) there isn’t .. “I’m alluding to the link UA-cam videos you included in your comment”
La = no
Lah = not, same thing...
I didn’t learn my Arabic online.
and yes, with time this word became synonymous with the word God, for translation purposes.
The Jewish faith has never been allowed to name “God” or to use any sound to allude to the one God.
The only words they can use to name something that isn’t is YAHWA YAVE etc. which most probably means the way to get to know, that which is not.. and YAVE or Yahwa is most probably an old word for yoga.
Pagans back then, realized they couldn’t live without water, food, wind, light etc. So they used to pray for all these things and form a deity for each thing and worship them.
Then they realized that the greatest and grandest thing out there is the emptiness.
That witch is not.
And yes it is the greatest thing out there and science has proven that even inside an atom the most grand thing 99.99% is emptiness or nothing.
Does this sound to you like the most famous phrase in the world of Islam today?
Allah Akbar = That witch is not is the greatest or grandest thing.
Did you ever ask yourself, what was inside the building of Makka ?
All types of pagan statues alluding to different Gods, and pilgrimers used to go there to pray all Deities at the same time at least once in their life. “Long before Islam”
Until Mohammed ( peace be upon him ) destroyed all the statues and said... la ilaha illa Allah.. right?
Notice please..
ilah = god
Allah = that witch is not ( the-not )
In pure translation: No god but that witch is not
So please don’t use the word “ ilah” Mohammed (pbuh) said no !
Too much coincidence to be ignored.
In my opinion the most perfect word in Arabic, to describe the greatest & grandest thing out there.. “Allah”
Indeed Allah Akbar..
That witch is not is the greatest thing.
By the way, Jews also respect a period of time, called SHIVA, right after the death of someone, they remain praying the Shiva, for the soul of the departed loved one, for a good week almost. Because they know that the physical body remains eternally on the ground, the knowledge we gather becomes anyway almost useless with time or gets surpassed by better theories, and the breath of life or soul or call it whatever, returns to its origine.. to that witch is not.. Allah. Shiva.
I’m not starting a new theory here, I just noticed what’s obvious.
Now if you wish to believe without questioning, only what dr. Naik says, it’s your choice.
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Shiva means pure, auspicious lol, it comes from Shankar which comes from adi Shankarshan( the destroyer of ego) where do you get this info bro 😂
Neuroscience and quantum physics are beyond of accumulation...what I realized with this conversation!!!!
The best interaction/interview of Sadhguru ever.
What you look at multiplies. That's the nature of creation. So much wisdom. Thank you Sadhguru
Jaggi is really really built in personality from science to whatnot the logical flow to explain express his knowledge is incredible and the moderator too is quite a knowledge person so he is polite in discussing and I wanted this to prolong still more.excellent intellectual conversation between two great people.
bully for you that you can assume to call him by his name, this kind of familiarity may appease your ego, but does nothing to hide your insecurity
Thanks 🙏 to Sadguru for this wonderful and intelligent conversation. Looking forward for more such discussion.
Ur special if ur watching this n understanding the conversation...
rly? its very clear to me. but unfortunately it means I also know it doesnt matter. to everyone who didnt understand, it doesnt matter.
conciousness and perception!!! thankyouuuuu
It definitely has helped people understand what I believe, that it's not about the happiness or contentment we are all and why we do search for which gives us a result .
But Its about learning the way of both the 2 different people learn but how we feel and then the result of the understanding before we use it. Such as a word used here would be, nuclear and its results.
So if we all had the understanding of clear consciousness, then the world would be an amazing place, everywhere.
This was really a mind-blowing conversation.
You’re low IQ
Such an intellectual conversation!
Loved it!
Never had such a sweet debate, though poles apart their points are, there we could see acceptance of life to life. Great debate David Eagleman, subtle way of life colliding with life, can't be be better a debate be ever.
Can u tell us abt that.........that's a sound of genuinely wanting to know.......No egos, no complexes ......real state of mind which is required in the current times.
I'm grateful for apps because if I didn't have my computer tuned in to this marvelous person I may never receive his brilliance and be able to find his shoppe near me.
The best talk i have heard from two perspectives i wish he would take up the offer xxxxx
Best sadhguru conversation till date
When two intelligent talk other only think what they talk,,🤔🤔🤔 love you " sadhguru"
Nope , i was there and everybody knows what's going on there .
Only they will get who are serious about life.
This has been so much fun to watch...
Thank you. I believe that this man can save our WORLD..MUCH LOVE
David Eagle man is so humble! such a kind and wonderful being. Would love to meet him ❤
To each his own.
Wdym Sadhguru is my guru. Without him i wouldn't have known spirituality by experience, but david eagleman is so humble and kind. @@ravanlp
Who is here after hearing iit baba??
Me bro.. 😊👌
Woh bro how did u know?
Same
Sadhguru would enjoy having conversations with many awakened scientists and medical sciences at the current forefront in the turning point of phenomenal change in this lifetime like Bruce Lipton, Joe Dispenza, Greg Braden. They know experientially there's more than mind of brain and body that cannot be defined, and have merged wisdom and knowledge in their works, as Sadhguru says, the knowing of using the sharp instrument "knife" intellect.
This was both relaxing and refreshing.
Very interesting discussion..just wish it was half as Long.
Super useful conversation!
Humanity needs to properly explore the brain vis-a-vis spiritaulity so we can live life better.
Sadhguru is quite right about the misleading role of eduacation, but nevertheless we are all educated to some level because we see, hear, and learn from our environment. Even Sadhguru is educated, he speaks English and dresses Indian, and he understands the human problem that needs solving... though it's good that he knows and teaches that education is part of the problem.
Thank you, both.
You have to go inward. Meditate in silence only naming what you hear then watching your thoughts name it then put it down and on to the next thought. By watching your thoughts and not identifying with them not labeling them as good or bad you will then open up a space. Hold this opening for as long as you can and then once finished watch a possibility open up. Something fulfilling so fulfilling. It might not open up for a day or two but usually it is immediate. This is garunteed!!!!! Try it! Life does not want you to know know know. It is all about not knowing so the surprise is fulfilling! The more you practice the more the subtle joy develops. It's happened to me unconsciously twice before and this time I investigated more and I've found it for the third and final time. Now everything is going right the conscious creating it happening not ego creation but cosmic creation. The actual path that was designed for me not my ego trying to create!
beautiful!
I've arrived at that level of knowledg that I know that I know nothing! Namakaram🙏
I would love to see/hear the truth of what science truly is or means being shared or made widely understood, appreciated. It is a principle or discipline, an understanding of how to learn, explore etc in a truthful way, beyond personal bias. How to achieve knowledge found being universally true. In the true definitions, there is no opposition or contradiction between science and spirituality. Often spirituality is more dedicated to universal truth, but true spirituality must be in harmony with scientific exploration. Truth is not only subjective. It is what really happened, what really is happening and what will really happen. Is one clear, universal and true definition and understanding. Like nothing can come from nothing as an absolute concept. So there was never nothing. 1 Love
What a beautiful conversation ❤
The Most Highest Level Intellectual Discussion Ever ..
What a great teaching to a scientist...Elements the most important 5 things manifesting all the universal intelligence
Quetioning is science Questioning beyond question is Mystic
High level conversation.सदगुरु का ज्ञान mind blowing.❤ Sadguru
It is sad to see people here who try to dis... credit and have a "ha, I know, you don't" moment on behalf of the scientist.
He is a smart person and willing to try to understand the view of sadhguru, also has to manage those different kinds of views and always tries to find comments ground. Let me remind you, that it is him who tries to understand the other side, it is not so much sadhguru who wants to learn about his deep knowledge of his scientific specification.
I don't know i think they're both pretty open minded and it's not sads fault that he's as brilliant as he is don't be hatin
You mean scientific speculation.
Science needs spirituality, spirituality does not need science at all.
We were definitely intelligently created. The human being and its functions are phenomenal.
Thanks to science i m hearing guru ji laud and clear
Thanks to guruji
M observing or precieving different
So using an apratus is equelly important to enhance the life
Coz without this Handy or computer youtube i couldnot recieve any worthy instruction so fast
The future is integrating the spirituality and science. One without the other is incomplete.
And with two(spiritual and scientific knowledge) integrated into oneness, understanding and creating anything is possible.
Nice that a scientist is willing to listen
Wow. I need to absorb this. Excellent
I want to be in this conversation so much that it almost hurts. I see them both struggling to communicate, just on the edge of eureka, and feel I could translate in the necessary way to bridge that gap
Yea I felt that
David Eagleman is really like a literal "Eagle Man". Very sharp (intelligent) yet very keen to listen. I know he has a lot of things to say but he just said about 1% of it. The best conversation I ever heard. Like I don't want to end this scene. But to summarize, what's next in life or in the cosmos as a whole is all about a GUESS (scientific or not). Sadhguru talks of Inner Engineering while Eagleman is on the science side that is based on human senses. But as an ordinary person, Inner Engineering is too deep to fathom for an average person while science (As Eagleman said) is still too young. My guess is this: I agree with Sadhguru that science is: you study one and will lead to another, and to another. Sadhguru pointed out that if we just master or understand the 5 elements, then we can have all the access to life. But I would disagree with that because we can't eat the whole bread in one bite. We need to understand the whole idea piecemeal. My basic understanding of science is that it is the pursuit of knowledge but it's tracing something. Right now, science starts the tracing from the main branch going to the roots, then to the twigs, then to the leaves until science will then picture the whole TREE. Similar to the so-called 4th dimension idea, it would be hard to tell that we are living on a tree if we do not see the WHOLE tree first.
Hard to understand the depth of Sadhguru, its fair to say that you cant say 5 element wont help you until you have understood the 5 elements, correct?
The purpose of life is to create pleasantness within and pleasantness around you, not by looking outside but going inside
Thank you both, very much :D
This is the best video from Sadhguru that I have watched. That of of course also means that the other person in the video has asked the right questions or made the right points to elevate this conversation
Sadhguru is Phenomenal
This should have at least 8.000M views
SADGURU भौतिक शरीर की तरह हमारा एक मानसिक और ऊर्जा शरीर भी है🌹
The four realms of the mind are on point -
Intellect , identity , accumulation of memory and pure intelligence unsullied by memory (ie the soul). If today’s scientists focused on these 4 components rather than being stuck on simply the first one , hindered by the second’s subjectivity it would be a great start
Excellent. Thank you!
"We are moving away from consciousness to perception." That paradigm is everything!!
Consciousness doesn't exist without perception.
Imagine a human born without any perception or placed in a contraption that removes any and all perception.
Would you define this human to be conscious at any point of his/ her life...?
@@SHOOTINGDNA Again, that would be your perception of that human not having consciousness.
We will never know if that human baby knows consciousness without being in his shoes.
Apologies, if this is not on the same line as what you asked!
@@SHOOTINGDNA he is dragging our attention into that intelligence that works unconsciously in our life. Life doesn't need perception to live, but survival. In a sleep you are somewhat like having limited perception. 😴
It would be a very cruel experiment to conduct.
I believe consciousness is emergent property of the continues perception.
Because without all our senses ,
There are no memories (speech, touch, taste , sound ,warmth,smell), there are no dreams.
If you still say that he/she might be conscious, then you have to define consciousness.
Its interesting to see this young man....trying to understand something he hasnt experienced, Sometimes you have to have faith that here is something more....LET GO....experience yoursell.....and magical things you dont understand scientifically.....and then maybe you can explain it scientifically.
Science is ART, and ART is TRUTH! The TRUTH in science has expiration dates that change when AGES shift.
This conversation is one of my favorite. I do think (with all the respect that) Sadhguru should have taken a different turn in the conversation when he went in the direction explaining that Shiva explained all this 15,000 years ago. This puts a scientist and audience in a difficult position because not many people are mystics unfortunately.
One thing I disagree with Sadhguru is that he say he is uneducated... He has so much wisdom than those who claim they are "educated"
I don't know if it is true but I heard somewhere that Sadguru claims he remembers his past 10 lives. That he hasn't read the scriptures but knows them from his past lives.
You can agree or disagree.
For me, I neither agree, or disagree. Freed myself from those clutches of right/wrong, good/bad, and similar comparisons. Feel more at ease without those complexities of judgments.😊
are u educated? yes! oh really? ............ this is in the sense of as sadguru always say- educated mean u know everything in this life....so everyone is learner not educated ..............................,, bro this is like in intellectual sense not in normal life using word❤
@@adityarajbarnwal9258 I am not at all educated enough to understand what you wish to convey. Got lots to learn it seems.😅
@@tinkeringprasoon7230 well simply, u can only get this right now... that sadguru always mentioned that he is learner not educated...... That's it 🙂
@@adityarajbarnwal9258 Oh yes. Trur. If one says "I am educated " the door for more (learning) is shut. Possibility of enhancement is doomed.
It's a continuous, non stop journey. 👍
Feeling Bless, who need this soundportal? 34:57
This conversation can lead you to discover the mysteries of the universe... If you dare to or smart enough to grasp what Sadhguru is talking about.... And investing some time and energy and resource to the process...
Even your education was a process... Without any process one can not learn anything... And he is talking about something that you had no idea existed or believed not possible.. so yea.. Sadhguru is doing whatever he wants in his dream/reality- reality/dream....
It's about time humanity learn of the so freaking called 'The Occult Knowledge' which was hidden from them by one of the force that governs the creation... That is the negetive aspect of creation or bad guys or bad entities influencing people in power..
what is yours can't be you. amazing
I think it's worth giving it a try , I'm not sure whether we'll get to know The Truth but I'm pretty sure so many things will unfold which science has not been able to do far
David understands bagavad Gita when he says we are part of one life and one conscious just working on different tangents.check 1:36:00
“Sunyan,” - emptiness, no physical form, so that’s what Buddha was talking about (Heart Sutra)!!! Thank you 🙏 Sadhguru.
Good assist😂
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Sanatan dharma of ancient India had two streams...Theist and Atheist. Yes, atheism was given a proper recognition as the idea of sanatan dharma was seeking truth and you could try any means.
Budda was from Atheist stream and propagated his teachings which he also picked up from contemporary Theistic Sanatan dharma.
Shoonya (शून्य in sanskrit) is also a concept from hindu sanatan dharma.
I wish they could talk more often. Enlightenment thing
Wow..! mind blowing one. Finally, I realized that my body is like handset of my cell phone only.
It only gets weirder from here lol
You got it just right. Body is not you. It's only your tool to experience real you, the life itself. 😊
This is great. Thank you. I hope you all are having a great day. Can you recommend anything similar I can listen to?
I find myself frustrated with Sadhguru in this. He is communicating a profound concept. Through meditation and reflection he has found a deep understanding of himself. This understanding has been a powerful tool for finding peace and detaching from the desire that gives our ego control over our inner selves. But he has taken this understanding of himself as a fundamental truth about the physical nature of our universe. He did not seem to listen to the scientist or actually discuss the important topics the scientist brought up. Most importantly, the mountain of evidence pointing towards the purely physical medium for consciousness. Instead, Sadhguru always just returns to his talking points without addressing the scientist. He admits his ignorance to science, which I have a lot of respect for. But his lack of education clouds what he can know about reality. He is limited to spiritual thinking, which is not a tool we can use to obtain objective knowledge. It is a tool for introspection.
Most comments here see Sadhguru as infallible. Be wary of your biases. Question everything. Through inquiry and skepticism of all perspectives, we can come closer to the truth. Before watching this I viewed Sadhguru in a somewhat idolized light without knowing it. He is very wise and I have learned much by corroborating his perspective with what I have learned from other mentors and in meditation. But I must always take a step back and remember that each individual is just a person.
Enjoyed reading your perspective. I agree with everything that you said, but i think that alot of how Sadhguru speaks when attempting to communicate his points gets lost in interpretation. While the foundation of his perspective is based on an understanding of himself, what he speaks to is that modern science, in its attempt to understand consciouness, will always fall short trying to find it within the physical reality. The reality that can only be percieved through the five senses. There is no tool, by physical means, that will ever be able lead you any closer to understanding it. Its a concept that we've lost as a collective, which modern science completely avoids, and only focuses on the physical to explore non physical things.
Think about it, modern science is only good for the discovery of new tools. Things that can provide efficacy and convenience. Mystics have always analyzed the nature of reality in its totality, beyond what could just be made to use and industrialize as a product. This has been the quest of the human since we gained this magic called consciousness. We in the west (believing youre here too) only utilize yoga and meditation to ease ailments, relieve stress, detach from the ego, ect. What no one here realizes, is that spiritual systems of almost every kind were built on the awareness of our death. Because once we became "conscious" after being apes or whatever we were before we then became aware of "time", which is then followed by death. What mystics understand is that, yes you can explore this reality and make it as nice as you want. Big house, cars, family., a dog, vacations, whatever you want you can have in most cases. BUT, in the end you will die, and what will do??? Do you go to heaven? Hell? Is god waiting for you?? or Satan? Krishna? Muhammed? Doesnt matter what you believe, but you will end up somewhere after this, and mystics believe they can control that outcome, and generate a destination of their own creation. This is what every mystery system is about, not a question or debate, humans have searched for immortality since we began. The funny thing about it tho, is that its a lottery system. Not everyone wins.....
@@Burnmarx here is the problem with your statement. You are making the exact same mistake as sadhguru while believing I don’t understand sadhguru’s message. As an experienced meditator who has learned from many sources, I assure you I understand what Sadhguru is professing as knowledge. I have experienced the “inner self”, and I have been vastly empowered by this connection. That being said, you take his points a step further implying that you have definitive knowledge that you know an objective truth that science can never measure because it is beyond the boundaries of the tools of science.
With all due respect, this is absolute rubbish. You cannot verify a truth by counciling yourself or listening to people around you. You can hear your own ego professing knowledge in lines like “heaven? Hell? Jesus? Mohammed? *you go somewhere when you die*”. In reality, there is absolutely zero empirical data about this claim.
A oneness with the universe can only ever be a source of peace within ourselves, and a powerful one at that. But this inner peace can never give us answers about the nature of the universe.
When you or Sadhguru say they know something science cannot understand, they are showing a ignorance to what science is and what it can do. I find this frustrating because science and enlightenment are not mutually exclusive. This can’t be understood except with great experience in both realms. Sadhguru is expressing wisdom in a way that puts science beneath him, elevating spirituality to transcendence. This is a baseless position to take
@@dutonic Your answers show that you're stuck on the surface, regardless claiming having learned from many sources.
You might think that you know a lot, but you don't even realize that you're stuck only on the elementary.
Free your mind from assumptions and thinking that you have known "so much". And maybe you can see deeper.
Knowing = Experiencing it , simply there is no other way try hard as want sooner you get it better for you best of luck ...
I want an Indian scientist discussion with Sadhguru 🙏🙏
Hey fellow humans! Can anyone give me more Informationen on the process of freeing yourself of the memories of your ancestors Sadhguru is discribing around 1:41:00. Maybe a name that I can research?
I came across C.G.Jung a while ago an the similarities are amazing!! It feels like they are talking about the same things with different names. Jung calls it the process of individuation. I started that…but more tools/methods used by Yogis would be great. Thanks so much!!! ♥️♥️♥️
. . . change everything internally to create peace on the outside . . . you will need stillness . . . namaste etsaman . . .
time is movement. and the more joy u have the further u move (faster). time doesn't exist