Science (which is a process not a person) doesn't conclude that. Sadhguru is attacking a strawman. Name one scientist in history that has ever said that
Whenever I'm down, confused, or distracted, I get back to a full talk of Sadhguru with David Eagleman. I consider it one of the most intelligent conversation in the internet history that's available, but after this talk with Mr. Pinker I would consider this talk too to keep repeating almost every once in a while I need! 🙏🏼
I am one of those also who always refer back to Sadhguru’s discussion with David Eagleman. I believe also this is a landmark discussion and will be referred back to for 100s of years, to enhance human understanding of Life.
Mr Eagleman is so direct and has the highest regard for Sadguru ( not the variety that the so called devotees show...) I feel that's exactly the way in which exchange of views should happen....
At 24 mins in and I'm amazed at the extraordinary fluency, smooth, and easy flow of wisdom from Sadguru. Not trying to prove anything but leaving room for one to think, not conclude and for wonder and curiosity to flow like the ganges. Wisdom arises out of right perception.
But Sadhguru also said "man can not think beyond the content of his memory". So, even if one is given the room to think, one can not think exceptionally due to limited data. No?
@@madhukiranattivilli2321 thinking is limited to our experience, but when u stop mind (thought field), your buddhi(intelligence) directly attached to supreme consciousness. and from there intuition comes. that is how 'Mantras' are flowed from Brahaman to Human via Rishi.
A discussion with Dr. Pinker and Dr. Joseph Dispenza would be an excellent discussion. Dr. Dispenza provides a bridge between the brain, thoughts, consciousness and “miracles”.
Fantastic conversation. In college I read Steven Pinker's books as part of my psychology & neuroscience classes. I also learned so much from Sadhguru, especially when it comes to using the tools of yoga & meditation to live a vibrant, fulfilling life. To see a world-renowned cognitive scientist and profound mystic interact, what a fortune! 🔥
Well the scientist is stuck in his intellect unfortunately. Continuosly misenterpreting the word Miracle and saying Sadhguru is making up jargon. But, it's his life and he can believe whatever he wants.
But you, or Steven, don't know what's Meditation. Define it if you know. Every definition you'll come up with will be WRONG. So if you want to learn, may be Sadguru, or a TRUE Spiritual guru, can help.
@@dhirajgupta7435 How could you know if we know how to meditate or not. You are very pressumptious and i doubt you even meditate to come up with a comment like that.
It's all wonderful! But I know one thing! In my personal experience, the teachings of Sadhguru transformed me in the physical, mental and spiritual aspect. I remember myself 3 years ago, and I know myself today, and that's a big difference. I am grateful to you Sadhguru , and I will continue to work on myself, because I see real results. Your teaching has a healing effect. Namaste 🙏🏻 ❤
As with so many YT comments, in many ways it results in people trying to prove who’s right and wrong. This only comes from boosting one’s ego. I admire both as they enrich our minds with expanding knowledge.
I have no words ! When he said 'even animals are striving to be better than anyone, we as human beings should strive for more " all i needed to hear.All the love to Sadhguru ❤❤❤❤
And why do you think that just because Sadhguru said " 'even animals are striving to be better than anyone", that is true? How does Sadhguru have any info about this? Why would anyone believe such extraordinary claims just because they are uttered by someone they like w/o being presented evidentiary proof of it or w/o their own experential evidence?
The mentalist lior suchard can read and influence the mind. Pinker doesn't know about it or he doesn't like to accept the existence of people like that.
Even dead people will bring calmness to any grave. What’s the point of bringing calmness when he doesn’t have anything valuable to offer in this debate.
Here's some clarity then: all he did was re-purpose the meaning of the word "miracle" from super-natural to natural. Pinker answered the question with 'miracle' meaning super natural. Sadhguru answered the question with 'miracle' meaning amazing natural event. A play on words.
@@readynowforever3676I think it's said in another context , I think it's about "continuous unlearning process" , Which can help to avoid biases and pre built conclusions which dont let us think freely or from a different perspective. It is one of the important principal of critical thinking. And I think sometimes we as humans are afraid of free thinking and we find comfirt in facts said by someone. So we dont have to think out of the box , bcoz it scares us.
Timestamps: 01:25 - “Is consciousness a miracle?” Conversation begins. 20:50 - Sadhguru explains the difference between consciousness and awareness. 27:07 - Dr. Pinker on cause and effect relationship, and the myth of miracles. 31:29 - Sadhguru’s explanation on consciousness as “chitta” - an intelligence unsullied by memory. 36:00 - Dr. Pinker on consciousness as an activity of the brain. 47:51 - Yogic insights into the brain, dark energy and a nonphysical dimension of intelligence. 58:44 - Neuronal and brain functions during powerful experiences. 1:03:12 - Insights into meditation, enlightenment, telepathy and telekinesis. 1:09:39 - Is life getting better for humanity? 1:14:16 - Mental illnesses and taking charge of one’s mind. 1:26:45 - Soil as the source of life and why soil is going extinct. 1:32:33 - Does consciousness continue after death? 1:41:03 - Behavioral genetics and what determines human behavior.
The Doctor seems to have not connected to what Sadguru has spoken. He thinks everything physical. This is nothing but following the Christianity where the body goes with them to heaven despite the buried body has already ruined totally. The educated Doctor seems to have not understand the dimensions that Sadguru has spoken
@@ParthSeeker The educated doctor's name is Pinker, and I don't think Sadguru has a good idea of the findings of neuroscience. But one thing has not been observed in a convincing way: A consciousness without a brain. On the other hand, as Pinker has noted, there are tons of evidence that brain degradation goes hand in hand with cognitive degradation.
@@karlschmied6218 sadguru already defined a term called awareness and that is directly depends on the tool called Brain as that is the point all 5 interface (senses - interfacing with rest of world) gets converted to intelligence. That is the coordinating point from those information flow into the mind. The yogic understanding goes this way. There are 5 karma indriyas = physical manifestation of 5 senses they are eyes, ears, nose, tounge, and skin. Then there are 5 gnana indriyas = the software portion of those five physical manifestation. The reason one feels the hand even after amputation is the gnana indriyas associated with the person which is soft portion has not got impacted. In this the mind, intelligence and ego also are considered as Indriyas in other words they are also interfacing the consciousness with the rest of the world. That is why sadguru was repeatedly saying consciousness is that portion called "chith" which is that not touched by any portion of the physical body. The physical body at higher level consist of 24 layers and 25th layer is the consciousness. The 24 layers are further divided to multiple sub components.
This discussion is a grand feast for my intellect. Despite being a scientist by profession, I resonate more with Sadhguru's ideas because I can feel the energies beyond the physical realm that he discusses. Experiencing his presence was a blessing, and that encounter has influenced my perspective on science since. Thank you Sadhguru🙏🙏🙏.
This debate demonstrated how "science" can block one' mind to conclude reality without knowing and self-awareness, while how "spirituality" can open one's mind for generative dialogues that expands one's knowing and consciousness. Namaste Sadhguru ! 🙏
@niyati493 sorry, not true at all, mainstream science is not the best version of science that we have, science and spirituality have been unified, the main issue is with physics, replace the physics that we have with a new one, it will change all other sciences because physics is the fundamental science, and guess what we have done this already, there is a new version of physics called Unified Physics, that changes everything, everything you have been taught in science about the nature of reality, including our understanding of consciousness, please see my comments in the discussion above by @4SELAMATDATANG may the vacuum be with you!
Science is depend of five senses. But god can not be find out by science, what ever hard they try. To find god 6 th sense is to be activated. Five senses are not good enough to know god. This why science fails to find it.
@meisterhouse9747 i don't doubt it nor his genious; but it comes down which scientific worldview he comes from; it is clear to me from the video he comes from the old paradigm; we have evolved aka Unified Physics/Science a completely different different and new paradigm
This experience has been wonderful to hear… and as usual sadhguru has transformed a complex conversation or topic and simplified it to basic understanding of life ❤❤❤
@@ThomasDeMarcky-o8t you're a sad pathetic individual, Sadghuru has helped and saved millions of people, what have you done with your miserable existence?
Sadhguru's ability to navigate complex discussions with clarity and grace is truly a beacon of light in today's world. Thank you, Sadhguru, for your unwavering commitment to elevating human consciousness and fostering a deeper understanding of life's mysteries.
A rare combination of neuroscience and spirituality.Both are experts in their field and respect each other point of view. Thanks Sadguru ji to share this with us.
Both speakers were very good and competent in their respective fields. Sadhguru tried to convince through a spiritual approach, while Dr. Pinker through a scientific approach, how beautiful it is for these two perspectives to be united and to find a common ground so that new wisdom can be born, and doesn't the light switch on occur at the meeting point of two different poles ?
How do you explain something real that can't be measured by tools? I appreciate Sadguru for sitting patiently and explaining the way the schools of Dharma teach kids... Most sages, rishis, saints have given up trying to explain and went their way... away from mankind...
"Fundamental of seeking is that you have realized that you do not know", "I do not know is the basis of longing to know and opens the possibility of knowing" Logically understanding these sentences and Experientially knowing the same sentences made a world of a difference for me. Grateful !! THANK YOU SADHGURU !
Logical understanding is also based on the experimental understanding...can you point out any logic which doesn't have an experimental understanding or evidence!?!
But Sadhguru is not seeking....he stopped seeking just by saying it is a miracle... since we can't understand it completely...so just relax, watch & enjoy & say it is miracle... only science is working hard to understand the unknown...but these guru knows everything...
Just want to say thanks to sadhguru for his wise words I have been through allot in the last 14 years and I am becoming a new personality a better one and this man’s words help me to have clarity
@@SebAlex427 book is just a theory sahdguru offers ancient yogic kriya a 21 min moderation technique in inner engineering program it was really transformative for me
This video is a perfect example of take what resignates and what doesn't. Of being in perfect harmony verses in your mind or should I say OUT of your mind. I almost shut this off half way through because I just couldn't listen to the guy in the middle anymore, but I love Sadhguru and his gentle voice and his state of BE-ING...❤ This is a perfect debate to show what is going on in our 🌎 today. We have to all learn our true souls existence and LIVE it..💫💖
Finally everything on earth,in the whole universe and the total cosmos is really really a miracle.We know just a droplet ,99.9% we don't know anything!
As always before Sadhguru's clarity on life ,nothing seems to make any lasting impression; so be it Science or Logical thought and expression of Human mind.. this is the most enthralling conversation i have had in my life so far! We as Human beings are designed by the creation to strive to access that Dimension beyond this physical nature of us..and Sadhguru s wisdom and tools can help one to move in that direction. I have been practicing these tools designed by Sadhguru for years and it has a profound impact in my life! Pranam Sadhguru!
two great men seeing from two different perspectives. you can argue till the cows come home. you will never see it unless you are open to the suggestion that you could be wrong and consider the other person view. not necessary to accept it. Don't rubbish it.
I have been howling for some time Sadhguru. Moksha is hard to maintain. The tears as I shed illusion leave me a baby. But in it I find new strength and hope. Pray with me in meditation my dear soul friend? Om namah SIVA and namaste. ❤❤❤
@@harleydavidsonstreetbob1322they refuse to look beyond what conclusion they have over things. Sadhguru has said the same thing more than once in this conversation but.. no offence or criticism... The other person refused to look beyond their own conclusions. That is ignorance. Not taking sides but if you looked deeper then Sadhguru never ignored what the other party or any party said. He simply said everything from his experience not from books or knowledge. Well in short he explores or rather already explored. In short If you have a complete conclusion about things from 5 senses then you are ignorant.
It just struck me that when you are focusing outward, you experience being the part exploring the parts. When you are focusing inward, you experience your relationship to an even greater whole within the realm that is consciousness. The key is to do BOTH simultaneously, with amount of focus varying depending on how you are moved to experience in the moment.
@waynehartman330 i dont understand this part "The key is to do BOTH simultaneously, with amount of focus varying depending on how you are moved to experience in the moment". ca you please explain in detail.
Absolutely brilliant conversation for the west and east to show the developments in yogic sciences and ‘western’ science that we are all taught. I hope this inspires more people, especially the youth to explore how to bridge the dichotomy of the 2 sciences and delve more into yogic sciences to bring it to the forefront.
In my opinion the conversation is impeccable by Sadhguru and regurgitated uniformitarian scientific spats of technical word jargon. When Steven speaks the conversation feels dragging and meaningless.
@@mysticgarage1243 You have to understand what he's saying for it to not be meaningless. Sadhguru simply rambling on about anything and everything for feeble minded people
I think is crazy how Sadhguru can just destroy this scientist arguments with such an ease and love.... From being a medical student and a passionate for neurosciences I can understand how we can get disconnected from our core. Thinking consciousness is a brain thing sounds right but it just show us how we are looking for answers outside when the truth is so so close. Thank you so much for existing sadhguru and giving us such a broad perspective available for everyone
I can bet on the fact that you aren’t a medical student. If you were , you wouldn’t have stated that Sadhguru destroyed Steven Pinker’s argument. Lol. Being in the medical field, I believe both of them kept their arguments from each other’s side and nobody superseded the other.
@@deepanshinegi4963 this scientist obviously haven’t explored meditation. This scientist is sooooo caught up in the fact that science is all there is. I was like that too. He didn’t even know the meaning of consciousness. He miss understood consciousness for awareness because he hasn’t done any inner work. Once you go there this become so clear that you have to drop all your academy stuff.
@@jorgenomentehave you done inner engineering, it's crazy what sadhguru can actually do Highly recommended coz I though it's some bunch of instructions but it's real energetic initiation , he is a true guru 🔱🔥 ❤
@@jorgenomente Bro please don't lie you ain't no medical doctor or neuroscience expert. Don't get caught up in Sadhgurus word salad, use your brain and it's very easy to see that Sadhguru is simply twisting definitions and deflecting the point
he stills one of the best scientist in the world even if he is 100% rational. Science base on physicality is made that way. We didn't hold 1% of his knowledge.
I feel sorry as well as a sense of gratitude to Sadhguru for taking the pains to bring higher wisdom out into a world which is a victim of and is blinded by its own limited progress, success and imagination. This is some service He is performing.
Because he did the best of what he could u r able to see what u can see today, he is continuing what he does best.. Bringing conciousness into the world ❤
An observer is a detector like any detector, but the mind continues the observations repeatedly from mind-moment (Chittakhana) to mind-moment. Also, the mind can see the small light waves. Therefore, the mind is a very fast continuation of a process.
Professor Pinker's explanation of what consciousness is is similar to that of a physicist telling us that Beethoven's Ninth is a series of superposed acoustic waves 😅
Sadhguru is a super hero. He just doesn’t want people to worship cause they lose their own free will. You know he can do all that esp stuff. He just chooses to be normal. Which is smart and good for the world.
Sadhgurus Logical argument that we can go beyond or genetics and science can be summed up in the last 4 minutes of this Conversation! Not complicated not dismissing science! Just FACTS. Thank You Sadhguru.
The strength of Sadguru really shows through here… he is so patient and compassionate to play ball with these scientists while they chase their tails around their intellectual preoccupation with duality. Shambho
That's a very unbalanced appraisal of the discussion between the two men , the debate didn't produce a victory for either men , only , I would say , clear explanation of the two different understandings , the western scientific one , and the spiritual one the other . From a rational viewpoint science has the limiting factor in that it cannot disprove the spiritual , but the spiritual view cannot use science either to prove its own view . We are then go no further , only deeper in understanding perhaps , and with time lost .
More like he tries at every step to lead the conversation from concrete, understandable and relatable topics into the realm of mirky mysticism with watery definitions. Which completely destroys any value that can be derived from this debate outside of confirming already held beliefs and biases (of, for example, "scientists chasing their tails").
@@michaeldowd5545he has helped millions of people experience a better existence and is also relentlessly trying to change our agriculture practices that are destroying our chance of continuing our civilization. If only all b.s artists were like this....
He gave reasons, and you still think we should not believe something without reasons, don’t believe, but also don’t conclude. As I said before, he is a hard-headed scientists as most scientist are, very invested in the ways of thinking, ignoring all other life‘s aspects and dimensions, this is why I left the scientific community and looking for something else to do and serve.
Sadhguru answers according to context. This was an intellectual discussion so his answers were quite direct. Generally he answers in a way that the listener becomes more attentive & aware without making any conclusion. _He tries to push the listener towards liberation._
That final hug, cleared all the intellectual understandings, differences and conclusions more over the resistance that could build up between those 2 good people, that is all required between any 2 human beings. We should express ourselves clearly even things are contradictory and at the same time with utmost respect & dignity to the one Infront and around us. Thank you for the wholesome conversation on contemporary brain science and spirituality.
"Our idea of TRUTH has to come from lab must go, TRUTH comes from LIFE and deeper EXPERIENCE of LIFE" - Sadhguru "We just have to ENHANCE our LIFE rather than our LIFE SITUATION and LIFE STYLE" - Sadhguru
Two Great doctors sitting on the stage. One has the grace to sit gracefully bending forward and the other has the ignorance to sit with one leg over other. To most people, the one with a long face seems more intellectual but he is in no way experiencing the life as the other enjoys with grace. Not a single smile from Mr.steven in this whole conversation. Anyways the questions that he is having were the same that I used to have in the past and that is the moment when Guru entered my life and gave me the answers in whichever way I could understand. Mr. Steven needs to be initiated into kriya yoga😅
Because of the time constraints there are many things that are uncovered by Sadhguru about consciousness but the things he put here in this short time are amazing ❤. The discussion with David eagleman about consciousness, mind and memory is unbeatable with the amount of knowledge put out in the discussion to any other video about consciousness in the internet. Scientists should never conclude what they do not know never exists!!!
@@adove5843 Each and every things that The scientist mentioned is made up by spiritual masters is fabricated. If it can’t be proven , it doesn’t exist.
I believe Sadhguru, his humility, his knowledge… dr whomever appears pompous and matter of fact … my faith belief is with Sadhguru ❤🙌🙏🏽🎼🪄 Life is magic 🪄
The idea of sharing one mike and giving time for both to make their points, and not simply interrupting when the other is speaking, this is excellent! My heartfelt gratitude for sadhguru for everything he’s doing and his patience and clarity is top class 👌🙏❤
Sadhguru always flawlessly going down the points succinctly with class and clarity!! Love you Sadhguru! You’re a light this world is immensely blessed by!
I am from a very technical and scientific background , but I have witnessed experiencially what Sadhguru can do and that is beyond simple logic and sciences. Once one experiences that , will get a whole new perspective about what he is saying here.
@@expertocomputercomment sounds like it comes from ignorance instead of understanding both sides. I’m studying quantum physics and neuroscience, But still delv into eastern philosophical views and can really say logic cannot explain everything you think you know. The best evidence we can trust is our own experience so someone telling you something cannot always be the truth. Try finding it for yourself instead of always trusting secondary evidence.
@@j.c8464 Man, your comment also seems coming from ignorance. I am not at all impress by your studies since I did a phd in theoretical particle physics so quantum physics was my everyday's bread... I was a follower of sadhguru during 3 years (and took advanced programs in the US Isha Center) and it is precisely when I delve into the eastern mysticism in detail that I found out that what sadhguru says in many of his talks (not all of them of course) is either in contradiction with ancient scriptures or masters or completely wrong (wrong details in many of his stories due to wrong translations and he took the errors from the translations since he doesn't know sanskrit). I believe the same that logic cannot explain everything but that doesn't mean that Sadhguru is right and that he is what he claims he is (an enlightened being). "The Best evidence we can trust is our own experience" what??? Have you really study a bit of science ? Our own experience can be fooled in a million ways !!
Excellent discussion between two different approaches to exploring the world. Both men were respectful even when they didn't agree. Too bad people around the world are unable to put differences aside and have an engaging debate to attempt to understand each other. We don't want to listen and try to understand others'perspectives, we would rather blow each other up to protect our own insecurities.
New spiritual goals just manifested. My genes and my roots are undoubtedly my blessings, but the possibility of detaching completely from genetic memory represents an unparalleled level of spiritual aspiration
What a delight to hear two fine minds coming from different perspectives engaging in respectful and intelligent dialogue! Thank you. A lot can be learned about decency in discourse by watching this video.
If a dentist gives me an anesthetic to numb a tooth, I am still conscious, I am conscious of the lack of pain. A lack of pain does not equate to a lack of consciousness, it equates to a different experience for consciousness to experience. It alters the way consciousness interprets it's surroundings and experiences through the medium of the brain. The brain is like the universal translator that allows consciousness to experience it's existence, it is not the source of consciousness, nor does putting electrodes on someones synapses prove that consciousness is formed in the brain, it merely alters the experience that consciousness has, like switching the translation device to a different language.
When we say consciousness in the east we are not talking about mental alertness..we are talking about a dimension without memory,no-thing,non physical that can't be measured but experienced not understood intellectually
About Sadguru I am completely speechless. Now a days As he discuss on every topic, it's shows How he is a great intellectual personality & orator with calm & so much patience. 🙏🙏
"Science should never conclude what we do not know can not exist."
Thank you SO MUCH for saying this.🙏
Science never said that sadguru said that 😅
@@sujith5920science constantly asserts that. They will treat what they cannot prove as if it doesn’t exist.
haha! Yeah, science overflows with hubris like that...@@sujith5920
Steve answer was perfectly punch out sadguru s' attack with no doubt, "nor spirituality should believe of something exist without reasons".
Science (which is a process not a person) doesn't conclude that. Sadhguru is attacking a strawman. Name one scientist in history that has ever said that
Whenever I'm down, confused, or distracted, I get back to a full talk of Sadhguru with David Eagleman. I consider it one of the most intelligent conversation in the internet history that's available, but after this talk with Mr. Pinker I would consider this talk too to keep repeating almost every once in a while I need! 🙏🏼
Search "Memory, Consciousness and Coma Harvard by Sadhguru"
You'll love it 🙏🏽
Yes!!🎉
I am one of those also who always refer back to Sadhguru’s discussion with David Eagleman. I believe also this is a landmark discussion and will be referred back to for 100s of years, to enhance human understanding of Life.
Mr Eagleman is so direct and has the highest regard for Sadguru ( not the variety that the so called devotees show...) I feel that's exactly the way in which exchange of views should happen....
Alan Watts lectures are good for that too.
At 24 mins in and I'm amazed at the extraordinary fluency, smooth, and easy flow of wisdom from Sadguru. Not trying to prove anything but leaving room for one to think, not conclude and for wonder and curiosity to flow like the ganges. Wisdom arises out of right perception.
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But Sadhguru also said "man can not think beyond the content of his memory". So, even if one is given the room to think, one can not think exceptionally due to limited data. No?
@@madhukiranattivilli2321 thinking is limited to our experience, but when u stop mind (thought field), your buddhi(intelligence) directly attached to supreme consciousness. and from there intuition comes. that is how 'Mantras' are flowed from Brahaman to Human via Rishi.
@@shwetangacharya Yes, all that is right
However it is not feasible to stop mind. With practice, mind may stop the thought stream
No?
@@shwetangacharyawhat can you do with that flow. Did anyone achieve anything. Please join school 🏫 you need to wash this jargon away
A discussion with Dr. Pinker and Dr. Joseph Dispenza would be an excellent discussion. Dr. Dispenza provides a bridge between the brain, thoughts, consciousness and “miracles”.
Coherence.
Fantastic conversation. In college I read Steven Pinker's books as part of my psychology & neuroscience classes. I also learned so much from Sadhguru, especially when it comes to using the tools of yoga & meditation to live a vibrant, fulfilling life. To see a world-renowned cognitive scientist and profound mystic interact, what a fortune! 🔥
Well the scientist is stuck in his intellect unfortunately. Continuosly misenterpreting the word Miracle and saying Sadhguru is making up jargon. But, it's his life and he can believe whatever he wants.
But you, or Steven, don't know what's Meditation. Define it if you know. Every definition you'll come up with will be WRONG.
So if you want to learn, may be Sadguru, or a TRUE Spiritual guru, can help.
@@dhirajgupta7435 How could you know if we know how to meditate or not. You are very pressumptious and i doubt you even meditate to come up with a comment like that.
This is nice video thank you @PeaceHow
This is nice video thank you @peaceHow
Sadhguru is ahead of the crowd...Always.
Many in the crowd have zero understanding of how broad his train of thought is.
@ the same time everyone does ;)
Sadhguru has no thoughts. You should watch his more videos.
He is not even in the crowd
yup
Lol
It's all wonderful! But I know one thing! In my personal experience, the teachings of Sadhguru transformed me in the physical, mental and spiritual aspect. I remember myself 3 years ago, and I know myself today, and that's a big difference. I am grateful to you Sadhguru , and I will continue to work on myself, because I see real results. Your teaching has a healing effect. Namaste 🙏🏻 ❤
Same here❤❤❤
Sadhguru would say he just provided tools, it was you who transformed yourself.
Can you explain in detail how you got transformed?
Have you taken inner eingineering?
@@rahulsanku1803 just simply followed his advice and teaching. Meditations, yoga and healthy choices of food and supplements.
As with so many YT comments, in many ways it results in people trying to prove who’s right and wrong. This only comes from boosting one’s ego. I admire both as they enrich our minds with expanding knowledge.
Don't admire the ignorance of modern science when they have never experienced the Self as unbounded and eternal. Many have seen it.
I’ll admit to a 🔥 ego. I have loads of fears.
I have no words ! When he said 'even animals are striving to be better than anyone, we as human beings should strive for more " all i needed to hear.All the love to Sadhguru ❤❤❤❤
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And why do you think that just because Sadhguru said " 'even animals are striving to be better than anyone", that is true? How does Sadhguru have any info about this? Why would anyone believe such extraordinary claims just because they are uttered by someone they like w/o being presented evidentiary proof of it or w/o their own experential evidence?
The mentalist lior suchard can read and influence the mind. Pinker doesn't know about it or he doesn't like to accept the existence of people like that.
evolution
@@smlanka4u Pinker will dismiss it off
The balance and calmness that Sadhguru brings to a heated conversation is impeccable. ❤
I wondered if Sadhguru's wife was equally impressed when he murdered her.
@@mangatinanda I like how Pinker questions Sadhguru,
That's why he is sadhguru
Yes, but this was not a heated conversation. Pinker is quite chill too.
Even dead people will bring calmness to any grave.
What’s the point of bringing calmness when he doesn’t have anything valuable to offer in this debate.
The clarity of Sadhguru never fails 🙏🙇♀️❤️ He is truly a miracle 🙏🔥🌻
Clarity. The one "consumable" you can't overdose on.
@AtoZandbaI never feel so...
Pinker is too educated as he miss the education..
Here's some clarity then: all he did was re-purpose the meaning of the word "miracle" from super-natural to natural. Pinker answered the question with 'miracle' meaning super natural. Sadhguru answered the question with 'miracle' meaning amazing natural event. A play on words.
@@RavisidharthanHe “missed the education” ? Sounds like another person who fears science or the scientific method, and seeks comfort in mythology.
@@readynowforever3676I think it's said in another context , I think it's about "continuous unlearning process" , Which can help to avoid biases and pre built conclusions which dont let us think freely or from a different perspective. It is one of the important principal of critical thinking.
And I think sometimes we as humans are afraid of free thinking and we find comfirt in facts said by someone. So we dont have to think out of the box , bcoz it scares us.
Being here in the US the one speaker that just based on my "Vibes" the shouts truth in every cell of my body is Sadhguru!
@PeaceHow
Seriously, having separate mic for each is miracle !
It is to ensure only one person is talking at a time. And that, there is enough civility to pass it to each other.
Timestamps:
01:25 - “Is consciousness a miracle?” Conversation begins.
20:50 - Sadhguru explains the difference between consciousness and awareness.
27:07 - Dr. Pinker on cause and effect relationship, and the myth of miracles.
31:29 - Sadhguru’s explanation on consciousness as “chitta” - an intelligence unsullied by memory.
36:00 - Dr. Pinker on consciousness as an activity of the brain.
47:51 - Yogic insights into the brain, dark energy and a nonphysical dimension of intelligence.
58:44 - Neuronal and brain functions during powerful experiences.
1:03:12 - Insights into meditation, enlightenment, telepathy and telekinesis.
1:09:39 - Is life getting better for humanity?
1:14:16 - Mental illnesses and taking charge of one’s mind.
1:26:45 - Soil as the source of life and why soil is going extinct.
1:32:33 - Does consciousness continue after death?
1:41:03 - Behavioral genetics and what determines human behavior.
Thank you!!🙏🏻😊
The Doctor seems to have not connected to what Sadguru has spoken. He thinks everything physical. This is nothing but following the Christianity where the body goes with them to heaven despite the buried body has already ruined totally.
The educated Doctor seems to have not understand the dimensions that Sadguru has spoken
@@ParthSeekerbecause he has his brain to differentiate between truth and lies
@@ParthSeeker The educated doctor's name is Pinker, and I don't think Sadguru has a good idea of the findings of neuroscience. But one thing has not been observed in a convincing way: A consciousness without a brain. On the other hand, as Pinker has noted, there are tons of evidence that brain degradation goes hand in hand with cognitive degradation.
@@karlschmied6218 sadguru already defined a term called awareness and that is directly depends on the tool called Brain as that is the point all 5 interface (senses - interfacing with rest of world) gets converted to intelligence. That is the coordinating point from those information flow into the mind.
The yogic understanding goes this way. There are 5 karma indriyas = physical manifestation of 5 senses they are eyes, ears, nose, tounge, and skin. Then there are 5 gnana indriyas = the software portion of those five physical manifestation. The reason one feels the hand even after amputation is the gnana indriyas associated with the person which is soft portion has not got impacted.
In this the mind, intelligence and ego also are considered as Indriyas in other words they are also interfacing the consciousness with the rest of the world.
That is why sadguru was repeatedly saying consciousness is that portion called "chith" which is that not touched by any portion of the physical body.
The physical body at higher level consist of 24 layers and 25th layer is the consciousness.
The 24 layers are further divided to multiple sub components.
This discussion is a grand feast for my intellect. Despite being a scientist by profession, I resonate more with Sadhguru's ideas because I can feel the energies beyond the physical realm that he discusses. Experiencing his presence was a blessing, and that encounter has influenced my perspective on science since. Thank you Sadhguru🙏🙏🙏.
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This debate demonstrated how "science" can block one' mind to conclude reality without knowing and self-awareness, while how "spirituality" can open one's mind for generative dialogues that expands one's knowing and consciousness. Namaste Sadhguru ! 🙏
Not even the best scientists can reach this platform after working hard for whole life!! He is just soo extraordinary 🙏🏻🙏🏻
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sorry, not true at all, mainstream science is not the best version of science that we have, science and spirituality have been unified, the main issue is with physics, replace the physics that we have with a new one, it will change all other sciences because physics is the fundamental science, and guess what we have done this already, there is a new version of physics called Unified Physics, that changes everything, everything you have been taught in science about the nature of reality, including our understanding of consciousness, please see my comments in the discussion above by @4SELAMATDATANG may the vacuum be with you!
Science is depend of five senses. But god can not be find out by science, what ever hard they try. To find god 6 th sense is to be activated. Five senses are not good enough to know god. This why science fails to find it.
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@meisterhouse9747 i don't doubt it nor his genious; but it comes down which scientific worldview he comes from; it is clear to me from the video he comes from the old paradigm; we have evolved aka Unified Physics/Science a completely different different and new paradigm
@@manojkerala7900 science can test whether tantra can truly be used to bring corpses back to life though
Thank you Mr. Sadhguru for having patience and compassion with Mr. Pinker. You are a wonderful teacher.
Mr pinker is ignorant
In the end, Sadhguru embracing Prof Steven brings so much Joy !!!
Did any one noticed the scientist slowly calmed himself slowly after every sadguru's speech
This experience has been wonderful to hear… and as usual sadhguru has transformed a complex conversation or topic and simplified it to basic understanding of life ❤❤❤
When I look at the world; I despair. When I hear the words of wisdom from this mighty Sage Sadhguru; I feel hope.
I have recently started to see tremendous hope for all.
Same here as well.
both of them are saying very intelligently, but only Sadhguru words make my eye watering and touch deep to the heart.
Steven is a teacher for college students, and Sadguru is a guide for advance seekers.
And it is because they appeal to the emotions and not to the intellect that we should be skeptical.
"This video came to me at the right time. Buddha's words have a way of providing solace and guidance. Grateful for this virtual refuge of wisdom."
Sadhguru didn't offer wisdom; he offered feel-good ignorance.
@@ThomasDeMarcky-o8t you're a sad pathetic individual, Sadghuru has helped and saved millions of people, what have you done with your miserable existence?
@@ThomasDeMarcky-o8tI suspect you could use some of that "ignorance"
@@ThomasDeMarcky-o8twhatever makes you feel good
This is nice video thank you @peaceHow
There is no controlled boundary in how many ways you can enjoy Sadhguru’s words. What a truly wonderful mystic.
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Ur mommy😊@@nvspraneeth9468
This conversation in itself is a great contribution to today's world. This what we need. This what should be there in our textbooks.
True we need these kinds of talks/debates a lot in today's world.
Sadhguru's ability to navigate complex discussions with clarity and grace is truly a beacon of light in today's world. Thank you, Sadhguru, for your unwavering commitment to elevating human consciousness and fostering a deeper understanding of life's mysteries.
So true
Seems like this comment is written bi CHAT GPT 😂
Lol he made no sense
What a beautiful line said by sadghuru 'Science should never conclude what we do not know cannot exist' ❤❤❤
Well said
Just because we can think of it doesn't mean it's likely it exists.
True
@@Ometecuhtli duh
neither should people conclude something exists without evidence.
Being alive is a miracle 💙Aashuq 💚the way our mind and bodies work is amazing and we are all individuals ‼️
just some random opinions without much value
I love you sadhguru, the questions I have struggled with my entire life you look at entirely differently
A rare combination of neuroscience and spirituality.Both are experts in their field and respect each other point of view. Thanks Sadguru ji to share this with us.
one stuck in his head, a giant ego inflation. the other full of possibilities.
who?@@upliftrr
I don't think the scientist respected Sadhguru too much...
What does he mean ,when he said people's faces changed ?
Both speakers were very good and competent in their respective fields. Sadhguru tried to convince through a spiritual approach, while Dr. Pinker through a scientific approach, how beautiful it is for these two perspectives to be united and to find a common ground so that new wisdom can be born, and doesn't the light switch on occur at the meeting point of two different poles ?
When I listen to Sadguru I feel instantly enlightened. His wisdom blows my mind away. I appreciate both guests.
the delusion of enlightment
The feeling of enlightenment is not enlightenment. That's called solace.
It’s not his wisdom. He copies.
How do you explain something real that can't be measured by tools?
I appreciate Sadguru for sitting patiently and explaining the way the schools of Dharma teach kids...
Most sages, rishis, saints have given up trying to explain and went their way... away from mankind...
❤ Sadhguru’s experiential method vs. Pinker’s scientific approach, made for a wonderful and enlightening debate. Thank you. 🙏🏾
Loved this, I respect both Dr Pinker and Sadguru.. What a treat for me.
"Fundamental of seeking is that you have realized that you do not know",
"I do not know is the basis of longing to know and opens the possibility of knowing"
Logically understanding these sentences and Experientially knowing the same sentences made a world of a difference for me. Grateful !! THANK YOU SADHGURU !
Logical understanding is also based on the experimental understanding...can you point out any logic which doesn't have an experimental understanding or evidence!?!
But Sadhguru is not seeking....he stopped seeking just by saying it is a miracle... since we can't understand it completely...so just relax, watch & enjoy & say it is miracle... only science is working hard to understand the unknown...but these guru knows everything...
lol U don't even know what he is implying. Nice joke.@@Opinion_01
@@NoThing-ec9km Well i will be very pleased to hear your wisdom on this topic...how my comment is joke etc...
I look up to the guidance and words of wisdom from Sadhguru every time I'm down and out.
There is no down and out.....just up and in...shaking it all about.....Regards!?
Just want to say thanks to sadhguru for his wise words I have been through allot in the last 14 years and I am becoming a new personality a better one and this man’s words help me to have clarity
you should definitely do inner engineering
@@yogisguide321 how is it different from the book ?
@@SebAlex427 book is just a theory sahdguru offers ancient yogic kriya a 21 min moderation technique in inner engineering program it was really transformative for me
its a medidation practice which you have to do daily@@SebAlex427
@@SebAlex427You will be initiated into a practice called "Shambhavi mahamudra" which you can practice daily.
This video is a perfect example of take what resignates and what doesn't. Of being in perfect harmony verses in your mind or should I say OUT of your mind. I almost shut this off half way through because I just couldn't listen to the guy in the middle anymore, but I love Sadhguru and his gentle voice and his state of BE-ING...❤ This is a perfect debate to show what is going on in our 🌎 today. We have to all learn our true souls existence and LIVE it..💫💖
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As long as people's fascination and attachment with their brain doesnt go away, they will never understand Sadhguru.
I think you got it backwards
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Who can hug a person who totally contradicted you for 2 hours straight...🙏 Such Grace
@meisterhouse9747 opposed to bitterness within
We all must get to that place, that's the lesson.
Union or yoga or Sadhguru
Yea I almost stopped the video 🙏 but I just 🙏😁
Yes. Isn't it though? So beautiful.
It’s so nice to see people debate like adults for a change.
Dont see this as a debate ... these are two sides of a page ... if you look at it wisely
Sadhguru is levels above many levels, the place Pinker exists.
Finally everything on earth,in the whole universe and the total cosmos is really really a miracle.We know just a droplet ,99.9% we don't know anything!
do you believe in God?
As always before Sadhguru's clarity on life ,nothing seems to make any lasting impression; so be it Science or Logical thought and expression of Human mind.. this is the most enthralling conversation i have had in my life so far!
We as Human beings are designed by the creation to strive to access that Dimension beyond this physical nature of us..and Sadhguru s wisdom and tools can help one to move in that direction.
I have been practicing these tools designed by Sadhguru for years and it has a profound impact in my life!
Pranam Sadhguru!
I felt anxious while listening to Prof. Steven explain about consciousness, and I calmed down immediately when Sadhguru started speaking. :)
Yeah thats true
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Truth might not always be calming, it's not a fantasy, reality can be joyful & painful aswell..
@@gametests Agreed.. however, as Einstein said, "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough".
The incredible efforts of Sadhguru and the Isha Foundation to improve the world are truly inspiring.
What a brilliant conversation! Cleary showing how ignorance and arrogance cannot lead anyone anywhere! Be a seeker🙏🏾
It shows ur brain couldnt process anything that the prof said....
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Who is arrogant and ignorant?
@@lancerag1437who do u think
@lancerag1437 the white bafoon in this case.
I love Sadhguru's conversations with various eminent scientists❤
@@jmc-xp6mlwas Sadhguru open to science and rationality? Sadhguru is only open to his sky high claims backed by no evidence.😅
@@jmc-xp6mlyou meant open minded means accepting the pseudoscience and rubbish that he is talking about?
@@Lemon-lp1qbonly cause you don’t understand
@@dalinaddeiyou understand it very well, right? rather than resorting to sarcasm please be kind enough to explain it to me as well. thank you.😄
two great men seeing from two different perspectives. you can argue till the cows come home. you will never see it unless you are open to the suggestion that you could be wrong and consider the other person view. not necessary to accept it. Don't rubbish it.
Thank you Sadguru! "Something more profound to human existence than mere physiological and pschological drama".
I have been howling for some time Sadhguru. Moksha is hard to maintain. The tears as I shed illusion leave me a baby. But in it I find new strength and hope. Pray with me in meditation my dear soul friend? Om namah SIVA and namaste. ❤❤❤
Super grateful for this diverse shared discussion.
Thankyou Sadhguru for you and all you do.
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Thank you, Sadhguru❤️🙏
Thank you for showing me how to be compassionate when dealing with ignorant minds ❤️🙏
😂😂😂😂😂 SAME HERE
Well put!!!!!!!!
Shambho 🙏
Nailed it 👌 👏
I do not really see the ignorance. Sadhguru is looking at life from another perspective but how does that make any of these people there ignorant?
@@harleydavidsonstreetbob1322they refuse to look beyond what conclusion they have over things. Sadhguru has said the same thing more than once in this conversation but.. no offence or criticism... The other person refused to look beyond their own conclusions. That is ignorance. Not taking sides but if you looked deeper then Sadhguru never ignored what the other party or any party said. He simply said everything from his experience not from books or knowledge. Well in short he explores or rather already explored.
In short If you have a complete conclusion about things from 5 senses then you are ignorant.
It just struck me that when you are focusing outward, you experience being the part exploring the parts. When you are focusing inward, you experience your relationship to an even greater whole within the realm that is consciousness. The key is to do BOTH simultaneously, with amount of focus varying depending on how you are moved to experience in the moment.
@waynehartman330 i dont understand this part "The key is to do BOTH simultaneously, with amount of focus varying depending on how you are moved to experience in the moment". ca you please explain in detail.
well said, thank you for that perception
Well said. Totally agree with you.
You cant do it simultaneously. You can either be in the material dimension or consciousness dimension. But one can flip flop.
The question I ask of everyone
"When, at what age, did you realized
that you are an existing entity?'
It really throws people in to a mental
struggle.
The oratory skill of Sadguru is unparalleled...even though english is probably his 2nd or 3rd language
If you think he is unparalleled, then you need to watch more English debates
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Absolutely brilliant conversation for the west and east to show the developments in yogic sciences and ‘western’ science that we are all taught. I hope this inspires more people, especially the youth to explore how to bridge the dichotomy of the 2 sciences and delve more into yogic sciences to bring it to the forefront.
In my opinion the conversation is impeccable by Sadhguru and regurgitated uniformitarian scientific spats of technical word jargon. When Steven speaks the conversation feels dragging and meaningless.
@@mysticgarage1243 You have to understand what he's saying for it to not be meaningless. Sadhguru simply rambling on about anything and everything for feeble minded people
Sadhguru explained correct meaningfull aspects about human mental and physical correctness
@@BenjaminNuttinYahooYou are obviously living in a trance 😂
I think is crazy how Sadhguru can just destroy this scientist arguments with such an ease and love.... From being a medical student and a passionate for neurosciences I can understand how we can get disconnected from our core. Thinking consciousness is a brain thing sounds right but it just show us how we are looking for answers outside when the truth is so so close. Thank you so much for existing sadhguru and giving us such a broad perspective available for everyone
I can bet on the fact that you aren’t a medical student. If you were , you wouldn’t have stated that Sadhguru destroyed Steven Pinker’s argument. Lol. Being in the medical field, I believe both of them kept their arguments from each other’s side and nobody superseded the other.
@@deepanshinegi4963 this scientist obviously haven’t explored meditation. This scientist is sooooo caught up in the fact that science is all there is. I was like that too. He didn’t even know the meaning of consciousness. He miss understood consciousness for awareness because he hasn’t done any inner work. Once you go there this become so clear that you have to drop all your academy stuff.
@@jorgenomentehave you done inner engineering, it's crazy what sadhguru can actually do
Highly recommended coz I though it's some bunch of instructions but it's real energetic initiation , he is a true guru 🔱🔥 ❤
@@jorgenomente Bro please don't lie you ain't no medical doctor or neuroscience expert. Don't get caught up in Sadhgurus word salad, use your brain and it's very easy to see that Sadhguru is simply twisting definitions and deflecting the point
Lol. Pinker knows Sad Guru is a charlatan. He isn't fit to have any kind of conversation with a highly intellectual individual like Pinker.
Once again. Sadguru, something new I learned about my self. Thank you 🙏 The other guy just doesn't listen 👍
To discuss anything we need to agree on the definition. If not, this conversation can go on forever. To me life itself is a miracle!
Here is proof that the intellect is a major obstacle as we can’t hear others when we are busy thinking. Skip class and go for a walk in nature!😂❤
Yup!! “If I have not witnessed it, it can’t happen” is the most non-intellectual stance to have.
he stills one of the best scientist in the world even if he is 100% rational. Science base on physicality is made that way. We didn't hold 1% of his knowledge.
@@Phil2535935 His foolishness is deterring and if science is based on his level of consciousness, ppl need to wake up and question science way more.
I know 😂at one point all I heard was blah blah blah.
@@numerologicatarot3333well in this case, it's an experience
Superb talk! Sadhguru is brilliant, as well as the participation of everybody else. But, I would like to highlight my admiration to Sadhguru
I feel sorry as well as a sense of gratitude to Sadhguru for taking the pains to bring higher wisdom out into a world which is a victim of and is blinded by its own limited progress, success and imagination. This is some service He is performing.
Because he did the best of what he could u r able to see what u can see today, he is continuing what he does best.. Bringing conciousness into the world ❤
An observer is a detector like any detector, but the mind continues the observations repeatedly from mind-moment (Chittakhana) to mind-moment. Also, the mind can see the small light waves. Therefore, the mind is a very fast continuation of a process.
imagine excepting logic from a sadhguru fan
you are victim by words
What do you mean "you are able to see what you can see?"
@@devapriyawithconciousness
Professor Pinker's explanation of what consciousness is is similar to that of a physicist telling us that Beethoven's Ninth is a series of superposed acoustic waves 😅
in realty , it actually is ...every sound is combination of series of acoustic waves ..which you can write through Fourier series
I like your comment, very deep :-)
@@souravdeb283 in reality, it actually is more than that.
@@souravdeb283 representation vs real thing
'This'! 💯%!
This was an incredible conversation! I'm happy that they came up with the idea for this discussion. It's a critical conversation to have.
MAY SADGURU BE LISTENED TO FAR AND WIDE!!!
Sadhguru is a super hero. He just doesn’t want people to worship cause they lose their own free will. You know he can do all that esp stuff. He just chooses to be normal. Which is smart and good for the world.
doesnt want people to worship what u mean by that?
Sadhgurus Logical argument that we can go beyond or genetics and science can be summed up in the last 4 minutes of this Conversation! Not complicated not dismissing science! Just FACTS. Thank You Sadhguru.
The strength of Sadguru really shows through here… he is so patient and compassionate to play ball with these scientists while they chase their tails around their intellectual preoccupation with duality. Shambho
Exactly!
That's a very unbalanced appraisal of the discussion between the two men , the debate didn't produce a victory for either men , only , I would say , clear explanation of the two different understandings , the western scientific one , and the spiritual one the other . From a rational viewpoint science has the limiting factor in that it cannot disprove the spiritual , but the spiritual view cannot use science either to prove its own view . We are then go no further , only deeper in understanding perhaps , and with time lost .
He is a bs artist.
More like he tries at every step to lead the conversation from concrete, understandable and relatable topics into the realm of mirky mysticism with watery definitions. Which completely destroys any value that can be derived from this debate outside of confirming already held beliefs and biases (of, for example, "scientists chasing their tails").
@@michaeldowd5545he has helped millions of people experience a better existence and is also relentlessly trying to change our agriculture practices that are destroying our chance of continuing our civilization. If only all b.s artists were like this....
He gave reasons, and you still think we should not believe something without reasons, don’t believe, but also don’t conclude. As I said before, he is a hard-headed scientists as most scientist are, very invested in the ways of thinking, ignoring all other life‘s aspects and dimensions, this is why I left the scientific community and looking for something else to do and serve.
When I am listening to Sadhguru, its like I am listening to myself 🙏🏼
So your brain is like mutton mince as well ?
True it does feel like that, can relate to most of the things he talks
@PeaceHow
I can only learn from you Sadhguru.....untouched, unconditional, loving ILLUMINED!!!
Sadhguru always says " SIMPLY SIT". You will experience why he says this when you simply sit.😊
Sadhguru answers according to context.
This was an intellectual discussion so his answers were quite direct.
Generally he answers in a way that the listener becomes more attentive & aware without making any conclusion. _He tries to push the listener towards liberation._
He once said "all that talk and all that is just to woo you " 😂😂🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
That final hug, cleared all the intellectual understandings, differences and conclusions more over the resistance that could build up between those 2 good people, that is all required between any 2 human beings. We should express ourselves clearly even things are contradictory and at the same time with utmost respect & dignity to the one Infront and around us. Thank you for the wholesome conversation on contemporary brain science and spirituality.
Agreed! Glad this conversation took place ~
Pinker is sure a high caliber science. His talk is pure substance. Articulate and always precise!
And always idiotic if he has never transcended thought to see his self as the unbounded Self.
@@rickved According to who? You? HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA!
** Must watch concluding statement from Sadhguru, a wonderful take away ** 🙏🙏
"Our idea of TRUTH has to come from lab must go, TRUTH comes from LIFE and deeper EXPERIENCE of LIFE"
- Sadhguru
"We just have to ENHANCE our LIFE rather than our LIFE SITUATION and LIFE STYLE"
- Sadhguru
@@grm3243: It could be, but note also that subjectivity can be a matter of perspective.
Two Great doctors sitting on the stage. One has the grace to sit gracefully bending forward and the other has the ignorance to sit with one leg over other. To most people, the one with a long face seems more intellectual but he is in no way experiencing the life as the other enjoys with grace. Not a single smile from Mr.steven in this whole conversation. Anyways the questions that he is having were the same that I used to have in the past and that is the moment when Guru entered my life and gave me the answers in whichever way I could understand. Mr. Steven needs to be initiated into kriya yoga😅
Because of the time constraints there are many things that are uncovered by Sadhguru about consciousness but the things he put here in this short time are amazing ❤. The discussion with David eagleman about consciousness, mind and memory is unbeatable with the amount of knowledge put out in the discussion to any other video about consciousness in the internet.
Scientists should never conclude what they do not know never exists!!!
Nor should spiritual masters make things up about stuff we have no reason to believe exists. It’s just hallucinatory.
@@deepanshinegi4963what was made up in this particular conversation?
@@deepanshinegi4963 well, no one can make conclusions with hallucinations. But here Sadhguru spoke everything based on his experience.
@@adove5843 Each and every things that The scientist mentioned is made up by spiritual masters is fabricated. If it can’t be proven , it doesn’t exist.
I’m a fan of them both and I feel like they are both correct, just looking at the subject from different angles.
Thank you so much Sadhguru ji for everything. You are making a beautiful world to live in. 🎉
This was truly golden. A man of science and a man of spirituality. Competing? Or dancing? Like the yin and Yang fishes. ☯️❤
I believe Sadhguru, his humility, his knowledge… dr whomever appears pompous and matter of fact … my faith belief is with Sadhguru ❤🙌🙏🏽🎼🪄
Life is magic 🪄
I love that they put these two brilliant minds together and gave us two separate perspectives fr❤❤❤
I find your comment the opposite of brilliant. 😛@Vlasko60
The idea of sharing one mike and giving time for both to make their points, and not simply interrupting when the other is speaking, this is excellent! My heartfelt gratitude for sadhguru for everything he’s doing and his patience and clarity is top class 👌🙏❤
Sadhguru always flawlessly going down the points succinctly with class and clarity!! Love you Sadhguru! You’re a light this world is immensely blessed by!
I am from a very technical and scientific background , but I have witnessed experiencially what Sadhguru can do and that is beyond simple logic and sciences. Once one experiences that , will get a whole new perspective about what he is saying here.
Please give the details
I am also from a scientific background. And all I can say is that sadhguru is a bs artist, he is not genuine and you got fooled 😂
@@expertocomputercomment sounds like it comes from ignorance instead of understanding both sides. I’m studying quantum physics and neuroscience, But still delv into eastern philosophical views and can really say logic cannot explain everything you think you know. The best evidence we can trust is our own experience so someone telling you something cannot always be the truth.
Try finding it for yourself instead of always trusting secondary evidence.
@@j.c8464 Man, your comment also seems coming from ignorance. I am not at all impress by your studies since I did a phd in theoretical particle physics so quantum physics was my everyday's bread... I was a follower of sadhguru during 3 years (and took advanced programs in the US Isha Center) and it is precisely when I delve into the eastern mysticism in detail that I found out that what sadhguru says in many of his talks (not all of them of course) is either in contradiction with ancient scriptures or masters or completely wrong (wrong details in many of his stories due to wrong translations and he took the errors from the translations since he doesn't know sanskrit). I believe the same that logic cannot explain everything but that doesn't mean that Sadhguru is right and that he is what he claims he is (an enlightened being). "The Best evidence we can trust is our own experience" what??? Have you really study a bit of science ? Our own experience can be fooled in a million ways !!
Turn Inward that is how to know and enhance this being. Thank you sadhguru i am so Happy to witness this.
Please take a program and see how it transforms you , it's just crazy people do not know what sadhgru actually can do ❤
Way to go Sadhguru! How elegantly you have answered this question! And opened it up to a greater mindfulness. Thank you!
Excellent discussion between two different approaches to exploring the world. Both men were respectful even when they didn't agree. Too bad people around the world are unable to put differences aside and have an engaging debate to attempt to understand each other. We don't want to listen and try to understand others'perspectives, we would rather blow each other up to protect our own insecurities.
Dr. Pinker was stating facts, Sadhguru was talking experiential made up mumbo jumbo.
Two approaches: one sees the surface, and another goes to the root. Which one you'd prefer?
Sadghuru.
Your patience is contiguous.
Thank you.
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Beautifully said Sadhguru 🙏🏾. You make me proud to belong to the Indian culture and its intelligence and humanity.
@PeaceHow
Identifying with knowledge makes you blind..that is you can see things the way they are...😊❤ Sadhguru
New spiritual goals just manifested. My genes and my roots are undoubtedly my blessings, but the possibility of detaching completely from genetic memory represents an unparalleled level of spiritual aspiration
Sadhguru is on a completely different (deeper) level of understanding.
What level that may be ?
@@SB-by5mt*deeper*
Indeed he is. But it's not a better or worse level, it is just different
Sadhguru means the assumed personal working name ...His inner status is the Vedic Satguru or One of Five Perfect Masters of the present Now...
When you put a person on a pedestal you will not see the mistakes they make
What a delight to hear two fine minds coming from different perspectives engaging in respectful and intelligent dialogue! Thank you. A lot can be learned about decency in discourse by watching this video.
I was disappointed in Pinkerton, it seemed to me he was quite condescending.
Sadguru is the very definition of Wise...eloquent and supremely aware
1:04 Sadhguru is RIGHT ON here from my perspective. It agrees with my own understanding and personal experience.
@PeaceHow
If a dentist gives me an anesthetic to numb a tooth, I am still conscious, I am conscious of the lack of pain. A lack of pain does not equate to a lack of consciousness, it equates to a different experience for consciousness to experience. It alters the way consciousness interprets it's surroundings and experiences through the medium of the brain. The brain is like the universal translator that allows consciousness to experience it's existence, it is not the source of consciousness, nor does putting electrodes on someones synapses prove that consciousness is formed in the brain, it merely alters the experience that consciousness has, like switching the translation device to a different language.
When we say consciousness in the east we are not talking about mental alertness..we are talking about a dimension without memory,no-thing,non physical that can't be measured but experienced not understood intellectually
Aware not conscious
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Chit ....
Pure, unmodified, limitless, attributeless, ever-present, all-pervasive, non-dual awareness
About Sadguru I am completely speechless. Now a days As he discuss on every topic, it's shows How he is a great intellectual personality & orator with calm & so much patience. 🙏🙏