I wanted to thank you for taking time to make this video. I know that this job would have taken half the time if you didn't have to video everything. This video helped me figure it out and there isn't a shit ton of videos on the subject. Thanks brother!
@@228276524 I been contemplating on doing a cam upgrade to a 6.4 cam,I don't feel like spending $4000+ for a shop to do it, their argument is heads have to come off,but I've read plenty of articles where you can do it with heads on, by turning the old cam several times( 720°) so the lifters can go back in place,of course I still have to remove rocker arms and timing chain cover, radiator fan, intake and valve covers..
@@angelcedeno26 I guess u could but its very tricky with those lifters still in, u have to spin it perfect as not to damage them. After taking all the other things off it may just be best to take the heads off to be sure but u can do that yourself. Will be pretty easy with everything else taken off.
Also, I would change and upgrade lifters if I'm going to change cam, only makes sense. Dont know year and model of vehicle but usually u can change lifters and keep old cam but if u change cam your gonna want to change the lifters.
YEAH i SAW THAT, LUCKILY IT WAS PRETTY EASY TO CATCH BUT SHOWS HOW EASY IT IS TO MESS UP. i MAKE SURE i TAKE PICS AND RECORD NOW BEFORE i TEAR EVERYTHING DOWN 😄
I’m doing this job right now. Im at the rocker arms and push rod part. I got the idea how to do it now thanks to ur video. But Always look at specs before though. They want u to tighten the middle bolt first then Tightening them outwards sequence. thanks for posting this
Yeah I ended up retorqing later, had an issue and pulled the heads back off and retorqed. Issue was not with torqing but with head gasket. Didnt have time to do the video a second time 👍🏿
AC- Great Video I have done this job myself trying to record and remember is not easy and u tend to make mistakes but it’s all good it’s a learning process but I’m sure off camera you went back over your steps good job my friend..
Thank u. I did go back but in hindsite I should have done video to show all the mistakes I caught but I was tired after finding them and after going back to re-do I just wanted to get it done. Ill def do a better job documenting the entire thing next time I repair something. Thank u for taking time to comment.
@@johnrieger2707 Hi John I know when I first looked at them they never had any give in them so I did my Cam and lifter replacement with MDS delete kit everything came out ok except the rocker arms I had to get help from dealer they went in and made some adjustments and it’s running fine now.
@@rolankelly9683 I’m trying to avoid dealer 😆. Hoping when I prime oil before initial startup the sideway play will tighten up due to pressure through lifters rods etc🙏🏻
Good video my man did you have any play in the rocker arms on the closed valves after the new installation? I just replaced the camshaft, lifters, rocker arms, push rods. It seems to be the valves that are closed that are loose
Yes u are right and I did catch my mistake before putting everything back together, thanks for the reply, Im still learning and any feedback is welcomed
Austin Calix. Check out my comment below. You may need to tear back into it, or at least review some old 70's mopar service manuals and your youtube videos to make sure you installed the rocker shafts correctly.
Your right, I was learning as I worked and it turned out really good. Made some mistakes but ended up catching those mistakes and fixing them. Would be nice to get some input instead of criticism, I would welcome the knowledge if u know something I don't which Im sure u do
@@crailey4g63 maybe not. Something he did not verbalize and he should have. Is that the rocker shafts have a particular orientation, which as far as I know he never addressed. You will note that the shafts have one notch at one end. If you were familiar with old mopar rocker shaft engines, by orienting the notch correctly, the oiling holes in the shaft for lubricating the rockers is positioned properly on the bottom side of the shaft where the friction is the greatest. If the oiling holes are not oriented properly, the rocker bores will gall on the shaft. This can DESTROY the engine. I don't blame the OP, because he’s young and inexperienced, and I don't think even the factory service manual goes into it, either.
I wanted to thank you for taking time to make this video. I know that this job would have taken half the time if you didn't have to video everything.
This video helped me figure it out and there isn't a shit ton of videos on the subject. Thanks brother!
Thank u Robert. I really didn't think anyone would watch but Im glad to know it was helpful to u.
Yes me 2
Good on you for fixing your mistakes bro, I was tripping out thinking I put my hemi together wrong halfway through lol!
That's funny
You're pretty brave to figure out things as you go and also record with one hand👍
THANK YOU, SO GLAD I DID BECAUSE I LEARB=NED SO MUCH AND NOW CAN DO IT SOMEWHAT WITH EASE, AT LEAST WITH NO FEAR
@@228276524 I been contemplating on doing a cam upgrade to a 6.4 cam,I don't feel like spending $4000+ for a shop to do it, their argument is heads have to come off,but I've read plenty of articles where you can do it with heads on, by turning the old cam several times( 720°) so the lifters can go back in place,of course I still have to remove rocker arms and timing chain cover, radiator fan, intake and valve covers..
@@angelcedeno26 I guess u could but its very tricky with those lifters still in, u have to spin it perfect as not to damage them. After taking all the other things off it may just be best to take the heads off to be sure but u can do that yourself. Will be pretty easy with everything else taken off.
Also, I would change and upgrade lifters if I'm going to change cam, only makes sense. Dont know year and model of vehicle but usually u can change lifters and keep old cam but if u change cam your gonna want to change the lifters.
After re- reading I think u are saying you'd take lifters out without taking off head, is that correct?
Remember torque sequence my man going from one bolt to the adjacent one is dangerous
Im watching and thinking i hope he can't be putting it in upside down my shaft was in the other way😂😂
EDIT: NVM HE COUGHT IT
YEAH i SAW THAT, LUCKILY IT WAS PRETTY EASY TO CATCH BUT SHOWS HOW EASY IT IS TO MESS UP. i MAKE SURE i TAKE PICS AND RECORD NOW BEFORE i TEAR EVERYTHING DOWN 😄
I’m doing this job right now. Im at the rocker arms and push rod part. I got the idea how to do it now thanks to ur video. But Always look at specs before though. They want u to tighten the middle bolt first then Tightening them outwards sequence. thanks for posting this
Yeah I ended up retorqing later, had an issue and pulled the heads back off and retorqed. Issue was not with torqing but with head gasket. Didnt have time to do the video a second time 👍🏿
The blocks should be on top not under
Anybody noticed the talented kid in the background balling 🏀. #Swishhhhh
And luring the studs before you place isn't to wash off contamination it's to lower the friction for accurate torque
U lost me, what is luring the studs. Did I say something like that, don't remember, lol
@@228276524 lubing
@@littlebittathisnthatfirear8048 gotcha
AC- Great Video
I have done this job myself trying to record and remember is not easy and u tend to make mistakes but it’s all good it’s a learning process but I’m sure off camera you went back over your steps good job my friend..
Thank u. I did go back but in hindsite I should have done video to show all the mistakes I caught but I was tired after finding them and after going back to re-do I just wanted to get it done. Ill def do a better job documenting the entire thing next time I repair something. Thank u for taking time to comment.
@@228276524 Thanks for sharing
I was wondering if u had any movement in the rocker arms side to side.
I was wondering also. I torqued them all properly and cylinder 8 moves bit side to side
@@johnrieger2707 Hi John
I know when I first looked at them they never had any give in them so I did my Cam and lifter replacement with MDS delete kit everything came out ok except the rocker arms I had to get help from dealer they went in and made some adjustments and it’s running fine now.
@@rolankelly9683 I’m trying to avoid dealer 😆. Hoping when I prime oil before initial startup the sideway play will tighten up due to pressure through lifters rods etc🙏🏻
Good video my man did you have any play in the rocker arms on the closed valves after the new installation? I just replaced the camshaft, lifters, rocker arms, push rods. It seems to be the valves that are closed that are loose
NOPE. ONCE I TORQUED THE BOLTS EVERYTHING WAS TIGHT.
Is the intake longer or shorter?
shorter push rods on top ??
intake on top, exhaust the longer ones on the bottom,
How much do you tighten those bolts ontop of the rocker arms to?
Using the sequence shown, tighten the rocker shaft bolts as follows: • Snug to 10 N·m (7 ft. lbs.) • Torque to 23 N·m (17 ft. lbs
Clearly you put the push rods in the wrong hole. Check check and recheck my man.
Yes u are right and I did catch my mistake before putting everything back together, thanks for the reply, Im still learning and any feedback is welcomed
How many pounds is recommended for the rocker arm bolts?
I believe it was something like 20-25 ft lbs but I may be off a bit. The bolts basically stops and then u Do like another half inch rotation.
Austin Calix. Check out my comment below. You may need to tear back into it, or at least review some old 70's mopar service manuals and your youtube videos to make sure you installed the rocker shafts correctly.
They are correct. Some of the mistakes made were corrected before complete install. Been running great for nearly a year.
11min mark lol.
😅
You don’t know what the hell you’re doing
Your right, I was learning as I worked and it turned out really good. Made some mistakes but ended up catching those mistakes and fixing them. Would be nice to get some input instead of criticism, I would welcome the knowledge if u know something I don't which Im sure u do
He may not be perfect, but at least he caught his mistakes before they became problems.
@@crailey4g63 maybe not. Something he did not verbalize and he should have. Is that the rocker shafts have a particular orientation, which as far as I know he never addressed. You will note that the shafts have one notch at one end. If you were familiar with old mopar rocker shaft engines, by orienting the notch correctly, the oiling holes in the shaft for lubricating the rockers is positioned properly on the bottom side of the shaft where the friction is the greatest. If the oiling holes are not oriented properly, the rocker bores will gall on the shaft. This can DESTROY the engine. I don't blame the OP, because he’s young and inexperienced, and I don't think even the factory service manual goes into it, either.