I'm glad you decided to talk about Big G. I'm increasingly convinced that it's the only relevant conversation these days. It would also be interesting if you could discuss a passage from the Bible that is particularly meaningful to you. Greetings.
@@dracon5244 Hmmm. I'm not so sure I can do that. I have spent most of my time dealing with culture, not theology. Although there does seem to be a 'progression' from en empty traditional view to simply being a word in the dictionary, that is merely a concept. But of course that's too shallow. Let me think about it. I'd have to go back at least 300 years to cover it.
@@TheAnadromist I was referring to the idea of God in popular culture. For example, in movies, where now no character is a believer unless they’re the villain. Or in everyday expressions, like 'God knows' or 'God willing,' which have faded from colloquial language. Or in Christmas decorations, where it's almost impossible to see an angel anymore... Those details that used to remind everyone that something was up there, and now have disappeared, or worse, become their opposite.
The use of the word trust instead of faith is a great move in my opinion, if I ask somebody "dont you believe in me?" Im not asking them if they believe that I exist. And yet every time Ive used that move with people Ive only recieved knee-jerk rejections, even some times rabid attacks "you're lying! Faith means belief without evidence!". Communication through chats is such a losing battle
For those who think faith means "Belief without evidence." Generally have no evidence to back up their claims. And they are only dealing with the superficial exteriors, made even more superficial and exterior by the media, which is why online discussion so easily devolves into flame. Jacques Ellul, in his book The Humiliation of the Word, says that the word is not this thing you are reading right now, typed letters, but rather it is the actual word spoken in the flesh face to face. Everything after that from handwriting to books to recordings to advertisements are reductions of the reality. Another reason why the most truthfully deep and spiritual cannot breakout of this form of media, anymore than nature can be experienced through nature documentaries.
Thank you for sharing this. I’m going to share a clip on my channel. I’ve put out a few videos recently about baby boomers and the fractured relationship between millennials, zoomers and their parents/grandparents generation. What you said about taking responsibility and reflecting inward on the cause and effects of our own choices is very antithetical to the message being received by younger generations when they ask their elders “how we got here”
Thanks Michael. I've always understood that no matter how one's parents raised or abused us, that does not absolve our responsibility to reach after truth, and to change our questionable behaviors and thoughts as we come to know them.
Started watching this. Going to mow the lawn and finish listening later. But I'm enjoying your thoughts. Interesting where you mention how God takes on a more physical nature in how people perceive him. the Bible goes as far as to say he is completely unseeable in the natural sense. Jesus being referred to as the image of the "invisible God".... I never really thought about that until later in life. It does seem like both sides often are debating the Man in the Sky idea while it is something completely different that would likely blow our minds.... On a side I unplugged for a while from media and politics. After the Trump thing I briefly looked back at the discourse... Pretty rough stuff out there. Watching out for that propaganda lol.
Thanks for the thoughts. It is often easy to get lost in trying to make rational proofs. And by doing so we fall into the Modernist trap. And hooking up God and religion is always a recipe for disaster. While it is good to conduct one's politics in accordance with our Christian principles. God cannot be seen as belong to a side, a party, a nation. But that goes against out naturally tribalist instincts.
the anecdotes about how your relationships guided your decisions at crucial moments in life is extremely salient, anybody who's feeling lost will find it extremely helpful, and that this happened to you many times and across such huge distances is honestly enough to make you wonder what is really going on in the world. there's one thing about this that's very relevant for today, there are lots of people out there who've ended up in weird lonely places and could sure use that sort of relational guidance right now and yet they've become so isolated they'll fail to see how something like that could happen to them. But also, I feel all of this stuff we're involved here with PVK and the TLC is just one of those moments like the ones that you mentioned, everything around here feels extremely salient, there's something growing but I'm not quite sure what yet.
Exactly. It is hard to explain to someone whose choices have trapped them, that there are choices which can be right, which can lead to meaning and not away from it. Nevertheless attempting to communicate the very personal moments that might in some small way help are what we are called to do. Thanks.
I like how you described faith as a relationship with God based on us putting our trust in him, and how you related it to stories. I’ve heard other people talk about faith in similar ways and share stories about when they put their trust in God. Those stories have helped me trust in God during moments of doubt, and reminded me to go back to God when I’ve went away. This reminds me of the story of Jonah. In the story of Jonah he did the opposite of trusting in God. Because he didn’t like the direction God wanted him to go. In my digging I’ve found that a lot of my problems came from a lack of trust. The problems with the Bible are fairly inconsequential and like you said with hypocrisy, so what. It’s to be expected with people, but we aren’t placing our faith in people, we’re placing it in God. Going back to stories of trusting God, one of the small leaps of faith I took was going to Georgia back in 2023. I remember wondering if I should go or not. I felt like it would lead me closer to God in some way but I wasn’t sure how. After debating whether or not I should go, I decided it would be worth taking the risk. During the months leading up to the trip a lot of people tried to persuade me not to go, and it took a lot of explaining after I came back too, but it worked out. It definitely taught me a lot and I feel like without God I probably wouldn’t have gone. The fact it was a group of folks going helped. After coming back home I did look further into orthodoxy for a few months, but concluded that it wasn’t the direction I should go in. It led to me taking faith more seriously and I’m grateful for that. To conclude, I enjoyed listening to your reasons for believing in God and hearing those reasons has helped me think more intently on my own reasons.
@@LukeJ4ckson Thanks for sharing that Luke. It's interesting that each of us is on our own journey with God, yet it is clear we can't be alone in it. I am glad you came. And we still won't know why it was important for a while. Yet I'm convinced it was.
Very moving and timely Byrne. Thank you for this! Honestly, I have been waiting for a video series on one of your channels that explores the Georgian Orthodox Church in some depth, and your thoughts and (inner?) experiences with her. Possibly touching upon her mystical traditions as well as cultural and artistic spiritual heritage. Of course visiting some (more than a few?🤞) monastery’s would be an ideal wedding between your channel(s) and creative vision. I myself can envision an interview series of multiple hour long discussions with monastics and hermits(?) followed by an afterward (with just yourself) of spiritual and or philosophical/metaphysical reflection upon the interviewee’s(monks) words. Hoping (praying!) to see content along these scenarios sometime 🙏 The contemplative approach of your channel(s) were made for a series like this…ancient land, ancient faith, ancient iconographical artistic heritage …Either way…God bless Byrne!
With regard to time…to quote the Master…”Time is said to be irreversible. And this is true enough in the sense that 'you can't bring back the past', as they say. But what exactly is this 'past? Is it what has passed? And what does 'passed' mean for a person when for each of us the past is the bearer of all that is constant in the reality of the present, of each current moment? In a certain sense the past is far more real, or at any rate more stable, more resilient than the present. The present slips and vanishes like sand between the fingers, acquiring material weight only in its recollection. King Solomon's ring bore the inscription, 'All will pass'; by contrast, I want to draw attention to how time in its moral implication is in fact turned back. Time can vanish without trace in our material world for it is a subjective, spiritual category. The time we have lived settles in our soul as an experience placed within time.”
Thanks for the kind words. As far as that Orthodox series... There is a lot I don't know yet. Keep in mind there is an intense barrier to my knowledge, the language. But I continue to learn. Maybe someday down the road. I hope to find a priest to interview at some point though.
@@TheAnadromist I do know that John Graham, who you’ve had on your Georgian Crossroads channel, is deeply connected with a large number of monasteries and is close to many monastics. Perhaps reaching out to him at some point to put you in touch with some monasteries would be beneficial. I’m certain he’d also know which monasteries have English speaking monks as well. Just a thought. Also, there is an humble English speaking priest by the name of Fr. Archil at the Church of St. George in the Digomi area of Tbilisi that could possibly be a candidate for an interview. He holds an all English liturgy at that Church once or twice a week if I remember correctly. I’m sure he could help out with establishing contacts with a monastery or two as well. Btw, have you ever seen the documentary film by James Higginson, Devout? If so, thoughts? I know several monks from the Mzovreti monastery in the Dzama Valley that was featured in the film speak excellent English.
Had a similar discussion about size as youre talking about time, i was arguing that a church made like a modern glass skyscraper was of an inhuman size, and someone argued that a gothic german catgedral was objectivly taller therefore my argument made no sense. As if size is a matter of the metric system, the gothic cathedral was full of detail while the glass modern catgedral was one huge glass surface
I'm not so sure it's the size as it is the texture. Hence the Gothic cathedral versus the modern skyscraper, though many of those are truly too tall and dehumanizing.
I'd love to know more about relationship as the fubdamental element of reality. Some time ago I took to studying tolkien and so I encountered meaning and myth, I found that the difference between myth and drama is that myth is connected to transcendental meaning, but I've yet to undersand what meaning really means, Ive only found that meaning is essential for life and somehow comes from connections, the more connected the more meaningful, or something, I dont quite know.
Two books I recommend: Andrei Tarkovsky's Sculpting in Time (If you want the heart of it just read the chapter on Time.) And Jacques Ellul's The Humiliation of the Word. Those are great introductions.
Nice discours. Just wanted to ask, what do you think of the notion of GOD's omnipotence, omniscience and omnipresence? Some say GOD can't have those attributes because of they way some of HIS actions are described in the bible, as we see HIM do things we would expect to see in a human. Jealousy, repentance, anger, e.t.c.
One thing that has always bothered me about the idea of living with the year cycle and time is, what about people who live in the caribean? Or a dessert? Or the artic? Are those places disunited with time?
I sense two things in your questions. A materialistic notion of time. And that you have never lived a year in any of the places you've mentioned. Having lived in Alaska for 22 years I can tell you that the passage of time is very keenly felt in the arctic regions. The same with the deserts or the tropics. I also lived in Hawaii for several years. The passage of time is noticeable if subtler, but if you live indoors in front of a screen you are actively trying (and failing) to eliminate the effects of time. But that's on us. We hate time, we modern folk. Time isn't bound by material conditions, time shapes them.
Mother only. I don't believe I ever mentioned having a wife, because I've never have, alas. Sometimes I am talking to the listener, not from my own experience, as when I said something about you might have a son.
i find this insufficient. past roughly the 20 min mark, you are rationalising your biases. at the very least, you are arguing that you have faith in your biases, god being one of those biases. you would have to challenge your biases in order to make a more complete argument. but thats too long for a video probably
This was, as I stated, a personal examination, not a proof of anything, anymore than I can prove you are being honest and not biased yourself. How do I know that what you say is not, based upon bad relationships with your family, or or more specifically your father? I don't have any idea. Have you interrogated you own biases? How could I know? Everyone has biases. The question is how trustworthy they are. There is no such thing as an unbiased person. But accusation is not a place to start, and makes trust extremely difficult, especially since you give no proof of having taken the time to look further into what I have said. Trust takes time. That was the message. If you haven't taken the time (Hint: I have more than one video.) then there is no reason to take your comment very seriously is there? And I have questioned my biases in a way that would probably flay the flesh from your skin.
@@TheAnadromist time is an aspect of meaning, there is also intentionality. thus, "bias". where does your intentionality come from? you would have to answer this. maybe you can do part 2
@@buglepong I already have. Again it is not my intention to prove anything here. Time is the host of meaning. I have a ten part series on time. Again, I'd do a little more research. I have hundreds of videos. This was basically me recounting why I believe in God, if it doesn't satisfy you that's fine. It's not my job to do so. Meanwhile I've been a Christian for over 50 years through extremely difficult times and places and have had dialogues with a crazily diverse set of view points. Here is what I know, what I see through my Christian theist glasses has never failed me in understanding the world around me, The bright joy and deep mysteries, the pus filled evil and selfcenteredness in all of us. We are both. Something that can be found by the third chapter of Genesis. My trust here is rock solid. I don't know you, so I can have little trust in what you say, certainly not in providing a reason for living. If we see through all of our biases and intentions we become like people under an X-ray. Thin and plastic with little usable information for daily life. Relationship is the key, not the endless Modernistic quest for limitless reduction. We have to start with trust, not doubt. Period.
@@TheAnadromist certainly its your channel, so you can do what you want. however my reckoning is time being the basis of trust is only half the story. there is the aspect of intentionality, which left unexplained leaves a huge gap in "why you believe in god"
@@buglepong Why do you assume I have no intent? A rather large assumption. Or the somehow I am not conscious of it? Or that I have to explain it? Or that there is some nefarious political intent? The intent is to live the truth. And to learn to live with love and humility to the degree I can in my most imperfect way. If you are wanting something deeper you aren't going to find it. Not here. Not anywhere. Again the core of everything is relationship.
I’m surprised you don’t understand Peterson’s point when he dodges the “belief” question and instead says he “acts as if God is real.” This is the deepest declaration of “belief” in God: he’s saying it’s not a propositional statement he holds to be true, but rather the deep trust that guides his actions (that you mentioned yourself), which is the deepest form of belief possible. Peterson is doing the very opposite of side-stepping the question with this answer.
Thanks. The point is well taken. Though why do I personally have no such compunction about stating that I do believe in God. I act without the 'as if' component. So I tend to take Peterson's statements at his word,. But I then wonder if he is adopting faith in the 'blind faith' manner. Which I do reject. But it is such a temptation for most postmoderns.
@@buglepong Yes. But not the man in the sky, which is what I was talking about. And I wasn't talking about my Christian faith, nor the Trinity. As a preacher I knew once said, If I'm talking about the book of Revelation I don't need to discuss Genesis at the same time.
@@TheAnadromist what does the phrase "man in the sky" mean to you? jesus was a man, who ascended to heaven, according to the scripture. although the phrase is perhaps meant to be reductive and derisive, is there something wrong with believing "a man in the sky"?
@@buglepong Again, this was not a video with my reasons for why I am a Christian. There is no Christian I know who would agree with what you just said. But a UA-cam comment section is certainly not the place to hash out the finer points of theology. Or to put it another way, GK Chesterton once said (I paraphrase), a voice came from the sky? Where would you have expected it to come from, the dirt? I'd check out Jonathan Pageau's channel for my about the symbolic nature of Christianity.
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"I trust in God" ... "trust is what you have in a friend.."
I smiled here. Exactly. Lovely and simple but in fact so complex and deep. Yes.
Just finished - that was quite enjoyable. Thanks
@@gregoryross1693 A little something for those who want something a bit more spiritual from me.
I'm glad you decided to talk about Big G. I'm increasingly convinced that it's the only relevant conversation these days. It would also be interesting if you could discuss a passage from the Bible that is particularly meaningful to you. Greetings.
Or, even better, a 'How did we get here' specific to the evolution of the idea of G from World War II to the present. I would really like to see that.
@@dracon5244 Hmmm. I'm not so sure I can do that. I have spent most of my time dealing with culture, not theology. Although there does seem to be a 'progression' from en empty traditional view to simply being a word in the dictionary, that is merely a concept. But of course that's too shallow.
Let me think about it. I'd have to go back at least 300 years to cover it.
@@TheAnadromist I was referring to the idea of God in popular culture. For example, in movies, where now no character is a believer unless they’re the villain. Or in everyday expressions, like 'God knows' or 'God willing,' which have faded from colloquial language. Or in Christmas decorations, where it's almost impossible to see an angel anymore... Those details that used to remind everyone that something was up there, and now have disappeared, or worse, become their opposite.
Thanks a lot I love your videos! This one is really good!
Its one banger after the other, ill comment later
I look forward to it.
The use of the word trust instead of faith is a great move in my opinion, if I ask somebody "dont you believe in me?" Im not asking them if they believe that I exist.
And yet every time Ive used that move with people Ive only recieved knee-jerk rejections, even some times rabid attacks "you're lying! Faith means belief without evidence!".
Communication through chats is such a losing battle
For those who think faith means "Belief without evidence." Generally have no evidence to back up their claims. And they are only dealing with the superficial exteriors, made even more superficial and exterior by the media, which is why online discussion so easily devolves into flame. Jacques Ellul, in his book The Humiliation of the Word, says that the word is not this thing you are reading right now, typed letters, but rather it is the actual word spoken in the flesh face to face. Everything after that from handwriting to books to recordings to advertisements are reductions of the reality. Another reason why the most truthfully deep and spiritual cannot breakout of this form of media, anymore than nature can be experienced through nature documentaries.
Just started the video and have to know what the first clip is from. That was really moving.
Thanks. That's from a video called "Shiloh Institute 1988 Hymn 65 The day is past and gone" go check it out.
Thank you for sharing this. I’m going to share a clip on my channel. I’ve put out a few videos recently about baby boomers and the fractured relationship between millennials, zoomers and their parents/grandparents generation. What you said about taking responsibility and reflecting inward on the cause and effects of our own choices is very antithetical to the message being received by younger generations when they ask their elders “how we got here”
Thanks Michael. I've always understood that no matter how one's parents raised or abused us, that does not absolve our responsibility to reach after truth, and to change our questionable behaviors and thoughts as we come to know them.
Started watching this. Going to mow the lawn and finish listening later. But I'm enjoying your thoughts. Interesting where you mention how God takes on a more physical nature in how people perceive him. the Bible goes as far as to say he is completely unseeable in the natural sense. Jesus being referred to as the image of the "invisible God".... I never really thought about that until later in life. It does seem like both sides often are debating the Man in the Sky idea while it is something completely different that would likely blow our minds.... On a side I unplugged for a while from media and politics. After the Trump thing I briefly looked back at the discourse... Pretty rough stuff out there. Watching out for that propaganda lol.
Thanks for the thoughts. It is often easy to get lost in trying to make rational proofs. And by doing so we fall into the Modernist trap. And hooking up God and religion is always a recipe for disaster. While it is good to conduct one's politics in accordance with our Christian principles. God cannot be seen as belong to a side, a party, a nation. But that goes against out naturally tribalist instincts.
the anecdotes about how your relationships guided your decisions at crucial moments in life is extremely salient, anybody who's feeling lost will find it extremely helpful, and that this happened to you many times and across such huge distances is honestly enough to make you wonder what is really going on in the world.
there's one thing about this that's very relevant for today, there are lots of people out there who've ended up in weird lonely places and could sure use that sort of relational guidance right now and yet they've become so isolated they'll fail to see how something like that could happen to them. But also, I feel all of this stuff we're involved here with PVK and the TLC is just one of those moments like the ones that you mentioned, everything around here feels extremely salient, there's something growing but I'm not quite sure what yet.
Exactly. It is hard to explain to someone whose choices have trapped them, that there are choices which can be right, which can lead to meaning and not away from it. Nevertheless attempting to communicate the very personal moments that might in some small way help are what we are called to do. Thanks.
Glad you posted this. I've been doing my own digging on the authenticity of the bible recently. Looking forward to listening to this.
Thanks Luke. I think you'll find this worth your Time.
I like how you described faith as a relationship with God based on us putting our trust in him, and how you related it to stories. I’ve heard other people talk about faith in similar ways and share stories about when they put their trust in God. Those stories have helped me trust in God during moments of doubt, and reminded me to go back to God when I’ve went away.
This reminds me of the story of Jonah. In the story of Jonah he did the opposite of trusting in God. Because he didn’t like the direction God wanted him to go.
In my digging I’ve found that a lot of my problems came from a lack of trust. The problems with the Bible are fairly inconsequential and like you said with hypocrisy, so what. It’s to be expected with people, but we aren’t placing our faith in people, we’re placing it in God.
Going back to stories of trusting God, one of the small leaps of faith I took was going to Georgia back in 2023. I remember wondering if I should go or not. I felt like it would lead me closer to God in some way but I wasn’t sure how. After debating whether or not I should go, I decided it would be worth taking the risk. During the months leading up to the trip a lot of people tried to persuade me not to go, and it took a lot of explaining after I came back too, but it worked out. It definitely taught me a lot and I feel like without God I probably wouldn’t have gone. The fact it was a group of folks going helped.
After coming back home I did look further into orthodoxy for a few months, but concluded that it wasn’t the direction I should go in. It led to me taking faith more seriously and I’m grateful for that. To conclude, I enjoyed listening to your reasons for believing in God and hearing those reasons has helped me think more intently on my own reasons.
@@LukeJ4ckson Thanks for sharing that Luke. It's interesting that each of us is on our own journey with God, yet it is clear we can't be alone in it. I am glad you came. And we still won't know why it was important for a while. Yet I'm convinced it was.
Very moving and timely Byrne. Thank you for this! Honestly, I have been waiting for a video series on one of your channels that explores the Georgian Orthodox Church in some depth, and your thoughts and (inner?) experiences with her. Possibly touching upon her mystical traditions as well as cultural and artistic spiritual heritage. Of course visiting some (more than a few?🤞) monastery’s would be an ideal wedding between your channel(s) and creative vision. I myself can envision an interview series of multiple hour long discussions with monastics and hermits(?) followed by an afterward (with just yourself) of spiritual and or philosophical/metaphysical reflection upon the interviewee’s(monks) words. Hoping (praying!) to see content along these scenarios sometime 🙏 The contemplative approach of your channel(s) were made for a series like this…ancient land, ancient faith, ancient iconographical artistic heritage …Either way…God bless Byrne!
With regard to time…to quote the Master…”Time is said to be irreversible. And this is true enough in the sense that 'you can't bring back the past', as they say. But what exactly is this 'past? Is it what has passed? And what does 'passed' mean for a person when for each of us the past is the bearer of all that is constant in the reality of the present, of each current moment? In a certain sense the past is far more real, or at any rate more stable, more resilient than the present. The present slips and vanishes like sand between the fingers, acquiring material weight only in its recollection. King Solomon's ring bore the inscription, 'All will pass'; by contrast, I want to draw attention to how time in its moral implication is in fact turned back. Time can vanish without trace in our material world for it is a subjective, spiritual category. The time we have lived settles in our soul as an experience placed within time.”
Thanks for the kind words. As far as that Orthodox series... There is a lot I don't know yet. Keep in mind there is an intense barrier to my knowledge, the language. But I continue to learn. Maybe someday down the road. I hope to find a priest to interview at some point though.
@@Taboriyyun Crucial Tarkovsky!
@@TheAnadromist I do know that John Graham, who you’ve had on your Georgian Crossroads channel, is deeply connected with a large number of monasteries and is close to many monastics. Perhaps reaching out to him at some point to put you in touch with some monasteries would be beneficial. I’m certain he’d also know which monasteries have English speaking monks as well. Just a thought. Also, there is an humble English speaking priest by the name of Fr. Archil at the Church of St. George in the Digomi area of Tbilisi that could possibly be a candidate for an interview. He holds an all English liturgy at that Church once or twice a week if I remember correctly. I’m sure he could help out with establishing contacts with a monastery or two as well. Btw, have you ever seen the documentary film by James Higginson, Devout? If so, thoughts? I know several monks from the Mzovreti monastery in the Dzama Valley that was featured in the film speak excellent English.
@@Taboriyyun Thanks for the suggestions. I'll look into some of them. კარგად იყავი.
Had a similar discussion about size as youre talking about time, i was arguing that a church made like a modern glass skyscraper was of an inhuman size, and someone argued that a gothic german catgedral was objectivly taller therefore my argument made no sense. As if size is a matter of the metric system, the gothic cathedral was full of detail while the glass modern catgedral was one huge glass surface
I'm not so sure it's the size as it is the texture. Hence the Gothic cathedral versus the modern skyscraper, though many of those are truly too tall and dehumanizing.
I'd love to know more about relationship as the fubdamental element of reality. Some time ago I took to studying tolkien and so I encountered meaning and myth, I found that the difference between myth and drama is that myth is connected to transcendental meaning, but I've yet to undersand what meaning really means, Ive only found that meaning is essential for life and somehow comes from connections, the more connected the more meaningful, or something, I dont quite know.
Two books I recommend: Andrei Tarkovsky's Sculpting in Time (If you want the heart of it just read the chapter on Time.) And Jacques Ellul's The Humiliation of the Word. Those are great introductions.
Nice discours. Just wanted to ask, what do you think of the notion of GOD's omnipotence, omniscience and omnipresence? Some say GOD can't have those attributes because of they way some of HIS actions are described in the bible, as we see HIM do things we would expect to see in a human. Jealousy, repentance, anger, e.t.c.
One thing that has always bothered me about the idea of living with the year cycle and time is, what about people who live in the caribean? Or a dessert? Or the artic? Are those places disunited with time?
I sense two things in your questions. A materialistic notion of time. And that you have never lived a year in any of the places you've mentioned. Having lived in Alaska for 22 years I can tell you that the passage of time is very keenly felt in the arctic regions. The same with the deserts or the tropics. I also lived in Hawaii for several years. The passage of time is noticeable if subtler, but if you live indoors in front of a screen you are actively trying (and failing) to eliminate the effects of time. But that's on us. We hate time, we modern folk. Time isn't bound by material conditions, time shapes them.
Did you lose your mother and wife in the same year? That's hard, if I understood you correctly. I appreciate what you do.
Mother only. I don't believe I ever mentioned having a wife, because I've never have, alas. Sometimes I am talking to the listener, not from my own experience, as when I said something about you might have a son.
Relistening I said 'My life said to me...' Not wife.
@@TheAnadromist Sorry about that, I misheard you and was a bit confused. Thanks for the reply.
i find this insufficient. past roughly the 20 min mark, you are rationalising your biases. at the very least, you are arguing that you have faith in your biases, god being one of those biases. you would have to challenge your biases in order to make a more complete argument. but thats too long for a video probably
This was, as I stated, a personal examination, not a proof of anything, anymore than I can prove you are being honest and not biased yourself. How do I know that what you say is not, based upon bad relationships with your family, or or more specifically your father? I don't have any idea. Have you interrogated you own biases? How could I know? Everyone has biases. The question is how trustworthy they are. There is no such thing as an unbiased person. But accusation is not a place to start, and makes trust extremely difficult, especially since you give no proof of having taken the time to look further into what I have said. Trust takes time. That was the message. If you haven't taken the time (Hint: I have more than one video.) then there is no reason to take your comment very seriously is there?
And I have questioned my biases in a way that would probably flay the flesh from your skin.
@@TheAnadromist time is an aspect of meaning, there is also intentionality. thus, "bias". where does your intentionality come from? you would have to answer this. maybe you can do part 2
@@buglepong I already have. Again it is not my intention to prove anything here.
Time is the host of meaning. I have a ten part series on time. Again, I'd do a little more research. I have hundreds of videos. This was basically me recounting why I believe in God, if it doesn't satisfy you that's fine. It's not my job to do so. Meanwhile I've been a Christian for over 50 years through extremely difficult times and places and have had dialogues with a crazily diverse set of view points. Here is what I know, what I see through my Christian theist glasses has never failed me in understanding the world around me, The bright joy and deep mysteries, the pus filled evil and selfcenteredness in all of us. We are both. Something that can be found by the third chapter of Genesis. My trust here is rock solid. I don't know you, so I can have little trust in what you say, certainly not in providing a reason for living.
If we see through all of our biases and intentions we become like people under an X-ray. Thin and plastic with little usable information for daily life. Relationship is the key, not the endless Modernistic quest for limitless reduction. We have to start with trust, not doubt. Period.
@@TheAnadromist certainly its your channel, so you can do what you want. however my reckoning is time being the basis of trust is only half the story. there is the aspect of intentionality, which left unexplained leaves a huge gap in "why you believe in god"
@@buglepong Why do you assume I have no intent? A rather large assumption. Or the somehow I am not conscious of it? Or that I have to explain it? Or that there is some nefarious political intent?
The intent is to live the truth. And to learn to live with love and humility to the degree I can in my most imperfect way. If you are wanting something deeper you aren't going to find it. Not here. Not anywhere.
Again the core of everything is relationship.
I’m surprised you don’t understand Peterson’s point when he dodges the “belief” question and instead says he “acts as if God is real.” This is the deepest declaration of “belief” in God: he’s saying it’s not a propositional statement he holds to be true, but rather the deep trust that guides his actions (that you mentioned yourself), which is the deepest form of belief possible. Peterson is doing the very opposite of side-stepping the question with this answer.
That aside, great video.
I think my first sentence sounds more defamatory than intended, sorry about that.
Thanks. The point is well taken. Though why do I personally have no such compunction about stating that I do believe in God. I act without the 'as if' component. So I tend to take Peterson's statements at his word,. But I then wonder if he is adopting faith in the 'blind faith' manner. Which I do reject. But it is such a temptation for most postmoderns.
24:39 ... Jesus??
So... Was I talking about Jesus at this moment? No.
@@TheAnadromist Jesus Christ is god... yes?
@@buglepong Yes. But not the man in the sky, which is what I was talking about. And I wasn't talking about my Christian faith, nor the Trinity. As a preacher I knew once said, If I'm talking about the book of Revelation I don't need to discuss Genesis at the same time.
@@TheAnadromist what does the phrase "man in the sky" mean to you? jesus was a man, who ascended to heaven, according to the scripture. although the phrase is perhaps meant to be reductive and derisive, is there something wrong with believing "a man in the sky"?
@@buglepong Again, this was not a video with my reasons for why I am a Christian. There is no Christian I know who would agree with what you just said. But a UA-cam comment section is certainly not the place to hash out the finer points of theology.
Or to put it another way, GK Chesterton once said (I paraphrase), a voice came from the sky? Where would you have expected it to come from, the dirt? I'd check out Jonathan Pageau's channel for my about the symbolic nature of Christianity.