Shaak ti surviving is plausible because it's only shown in a deleted scene, and she's died like 8 other times in Star Wars. However, there is not a single chance Aayla survived. She was gunned down from behind, AND the clones continued to fire after her body had hit the dirt. She's definitely dead. Oppo Rancis and Eith Koth would've been better choices. Hell, even Windu would've been a more viable option
Mace surviving is a ridiculous idea when you consider the details. His lost hand wouldn't matter much, because it was cauterized and people survive lightsaber dismemberments a lot, but the several seconds of being electrocuted by a Sith lord who specializes in lightning, then thrown what I'm going to under-exaggerate as 100ft, likely slamming the side of one of Coruscant's tall buildings or a speeder, then falling many stories to hit the metal that they have instead of dirt, shattering his entire skeleton... There's no possible way Mace would ever survive that. Just about nobody would, aside from Darth Sion, and his only method of doing so was that he was already a Sith initially dying while highly enraged, and just stayed like that. Mace being a Jedi who's main advantage over Sidious at that point was actually a technique that prevented the dark side from touching him meant that as soon as the lightning hit him, he was doomed. I like him as a character, and would have enjoyed seeing more of him, but such an extreme killing method would have left his whole body internally broken, and depending on how hard he landed, he might not even have been recognizable after that. It was a good method of killing such an overpowered character, though, because it's overkill enough to be believable.
@@UnswimmingFishYT Well Luke survived being electrocuted in episode 6 so that alone doesnt mean it would have killed Windu. Also Anakin survived the jump from like 200 meters on top of the speeder from the bounty hunter in episode 2 so from that alone it would be possible as long as Windu was conscious before hitting the ground. But anyway I think so too that he died but there is a reasonable explanation thats all I wanted to say.
Qui gon died to maul by being stabbed in the gut but shaaki ti being stabbed in the heart by the lightsaber and somehow survived no chance shaak ti is definitely dead but Ayala is 100% KIA after 20+ blaster bolts to the body (and eventually the heart) the clones most likely would of confirmed the kill as well Ayala is definitely dead but shaaki ti is TBC (to be confirmed) but most likely dead
@Sarasti S I meant that it's technically just a vision, which means it could be misinterpreted or something. And Luke DOES still have the lightsaber she dies to in the vision, so anything can happen. It would be a different story if the vision wasn't a vision and we just straight up see it
@@SarastistheSerpent We don't. The Kenobi series literally shows Anakin stab a child through the chest with a lightsaber and she survives with zero permanent injuries, do you now see why your "We do see her die" doesn't make sense?
I love Shaak Ti she's my favorite jedi and is very underrated. I can understand her surviving because they change her death like underwear everyday. 🤣 Just because Yoda saw the vision doesn't mean it came to be because he also saw the jedi fighting the clones in an all out war. But how the hell did Aayla Secura survived?
I'm happy for Shaak Ti if they don't want to make the Force Unleashed cannon but honestly I just want to see more what She did during the clone wars(or before) and not just "boring" babysitting the clone production. She made me fall in love with SW so I really cannot stand how she got durty so many times...and I actually don't like what Dave did to her in his series... I love the way she's portrayed in her own comic which is also not cannon anymore but THAT'S where she shines! That's where we see what a cool Jedi master she truly is(and the Force Unleashed tried to give some of that back) As for Aayla.... I love her too mostly in legends comics but man... don't make her die a thousand times like Shaak Ti -.-" There's noo point in that... So they'll probably be ghosts which is... idk fine...that would mean that they were great Jedi bc not every single one can come back as a ghost or is that also not cannon anymore? 🤣
Yeah, 99% of the Jedi died to a single blaster round to the chest, Aayla took like fifty shots _after_ already hitting the ground from being shot multiple times.
Aayla I can’t figure out a way for her to survive, Shaak Ti is possible, there was a Force technique that could slow the vital functions of a Jedi. If Shaak Ti used this technique upon being stabbed in the direct center of the chest then it is possible that she survived.
@@jeggsonvohees2201 Because it slows the heart, which in Togruta anatomy, is in a different location than other humanoids. Anakin stabbed Shaak Ti in the upper center of the chest, yet her heart would not be there. Togruta have 5 stomachs, thus meaning some of the organs must also be moved. These stomachs would mean that Shaak Ti’s heart would not be in the same place as a human. Thus stabbing her in the upper center of the chest could most likely not kill her. Also, by slowing the vital functions, this would drop the body temperature rapidly, preventing much burning as the sudden heat would be cooled by the drastic change in body temperature. So from the technique itself, and the difference of the Togruta anatomy, Shaak Ti has a great chance of survival.
Shaak Ti being alive wouldn't be so weird since she's killed so many times she's clearly just some kind of immortal, but Aayla is definitely dead. If some writer now says otherwise, they're just bad at their job and should come up with a new character instead if trying to say that she somehow survived multiple shots to the midsection from some of the strongest blaster rifles around, while unarmored and going totally limp partway through the shooting. She obviously died, and probably got her corpse pelted a bit before the clones stopped shooting it. There's just no possible way to convince me that she was actually able to survive that, and even if she was suddenly revealed to have been some kind of illusionist or something and not been shot at all, showing up later she'd have to look different because Twi'leks are mostly comparable to humans, meaning she'd be much older and would probably need to have another character identify her to ensure people knew who it was. Reusing dead characters is just lazy.
Disney can’t come up with new characters. Star Wars Is now a tv series because they flopped on the big screen over and over. No one would’ve believed that 10 years ago but here we are
It's a time vortex. They arrived at the temple in their time as did Luke in the current aby time. Ooof. How many comments about being angry or shocked they survived Order 66. Patience people. It's only the 1st issue of the arc
God can you imagine being the people who have to organize disney star war timeline with how every show/comic seem like it ignore stuff to do it own thing and leave it to them to figure it out
Ye it's a bit much at this stage and a poor argument as to why she would survive and Aayla didn't. If Aayla and her squad hatched a plan to remove the chips and alter the weapons it makes sense. It's far more plausible than "how many times dis bitch gonna die?" unless she's an Ainur (one of the force gods themselves) I can't keep talking it seriously cus she never fu¢kin dies.
I'm telling you right now: there's NO WAY Shaak Ti and Aayla Secura survived Order 66. If it's not a vision, the only other immediate things that come to mind are cloning or time travel shenanigans. Both not "the best" explanations, but those two aren't truly alive after the Purge.
Aayla is one of my favourite jedi but bringing her back migjt really crush how emotional her death was to the fans and yoda. Especially any OG bf2 players
Perhaps they’re not visions but rather Force Ghosts similar to what we saw in Rebels season 2 with the Grand Inquisitor. Perhaps the Force summoned these 2 back from the Nether Realm to act as guardian for the temple the same way the Lothal Temple did. They could theoretically retcon Shaak Ti’s death because we never see it on screen except for the deleted scene which can easily be made non-cannon but Aalya Secura would be impossible to retconned without getting rid of a scene from the actual movie which would be very difficult to explain away without angering a lot of people both fans as well as several people at LucasFilm. But my money is that they’re Force Ghosts chosen by the Force itself to guard whatever is inside that Temple.
@@ked49 yeah, he was more of just a vision that everybody could see. The grand inquisitor and the other temple guards didn't do any damage to the 7th sister and the 6th brother (at least they didn't seem to be hurt) so i think it's more likely that they're either holograms (again similar to what we saw in rebels with luminara) or visions
Yoda: Eternal dragon grant my wish! Bring back to life Ayla Secura and Shaak Ti! Shenlong: Are you sure you want to wish for that. Instead of you know Killing the Emperor? Yoda: Oh no it's fine just bring back Ayla and Shaak Ti please. Shenlong: Really? Because a few crossed wires and boom. No more Empire. Yoda: Oh no i'm sure those two can handle things. Shenlong: Fuck it! Your wish has been granted!
Be easy to recon Shak Ti's death as heck in star wars cannon and legends, she has been killed by at lest three different people; Grievous on the invisible hand, Vader in the temple and by Starkiller on Felucia and then had her fate changed and as her fate is never seen on film. Secura is ruthlessly and quickly killed on Felucia by her clones. So suspect it is probably some kind of defence mechanism on behalf of the temple to test visitors as to their worthiness to enter and whether they are jedi or sith at the same time.
Aayla didint survive she was Blasted to high heaven by her company, they did it out of respect and that's just pissing on her and the clones under her command, they loved her
If aayla survived, which I doubt, could someone have saved her with that weird time loop thing in rebels that Ashoka and Ezra were in? Maybe it was her commander, perhaps he got his inhibitor chip removed and somehow found a way to enter; with the help of a nother jedi?
How on earth did Aayla survive?!? She was shot in the back dozens of times. Once she dropped dead, the clones kept shooting to make sure. Disney just can’t help themselves
Aayla got lit up from blaster fire from just about every conceivable angle...AT point blank range. 😄 Has to be some force apparition, or some other trickery.
@@SarastistheSerpent well they keep changing the cannon with her because they said she died in the deleted scene in the temple which was deemed cannon but orginally she didn't die until the force unleashed game which George Lucas himself had deemed cannon which I myself agree with.
Aayla secura the goat, only person in the entire galaxy to survive over 20 blaster shots to the back completely unarmored. Just built different entirely
Aayla got shot so many times, they covered her body from view under foliage while she was being gunned down. What's next, are they going to say Ki Adi Mundi and Plo Koon somehow survived?
Ki Adi Mundi was also shot down and died from getting shot multiple times, difference is that the clones stopped firing after he hit the ground, alaiya was brutally gunned down, I would say equivalent to getting shot by a whole squad of guys carrying LMGs and for good measure continued to unload into the target after said target is clearly already dead, there’s no getting up from that.
I’m starting to get annoyed at how dumb Star Wars fans are Like do you really think the clones killed all the Jedi? And if they did why would Darth Vader start the inquisitor program to hunt Jedi if there was only a hand full left? And if only a few Jedi survived why would palpitine tell Darth Vader to hunt down all Jedi survivors?
Same question as a lot of other people: Aayla was shot on-screen. And also, with all due respect, if we wanted to continue the storyline of the jedi of the old republic, wouldn't it make sense to use the power of suspending disbelief on Mace Windu or Plo Koon?
It’s got to be a trick. We saw Aayla get more holes put in her than a cheese grater. As for Shaak Ti, well it wouldn’t be the first time her death was retconned. Honestly that woman has more lives than a cat 😂
i think it is a vision , or some kind of hallucination but if they really survived well i get that Shaak Ti can survive coz we didn't see her death (and vision on dagobah wasn't exactly the same as order 66 scenes) but Aayla was literally shot dozens of times in the back and that will make no sense
The two greatest Jedi Watchmen - Ultimate Mind-Trick 🌌 ... but in all seriousness if a story can be told of the Shear-Survival and Will to Fight the destruction that was Order 66 off Felucia & Coroursant. I am very 👍 for that
personally, i do think it might be possible for Shaak Ti to survive as she was known to be a healer, also people irl have survived injuries similar to what she experienced and lightsabers also cauterize any wounds right away due to the heat, and her death was in a deleted scene so Disney/Star Wars could change it and say she survived. Aayla Secura on the other hand, I'm not so sure. unlike Shaak Ti, Aayla wasn't a healer and with how brutally she was killed and that it was on Felucia that from what i understand is a very dangerous planet, i don't see how she could have survived. Even if she somehow survived her injuries from the clones i feel like the wildlife on Felucia would have finished her off. So i do think that Shaak Ti could have survived, but i don't think Aayla could have survived.
If they survived, then Order 66 was a complete and utter failure as this means not only did Vader fail to kill all the younglings (Reva), but a majority of the Jedi council survived in which case this shows a clear problem with Anakin and the clones' effectiveness during this time.
Personally id actually LIKE for shaak ti specifically to have survived order 66. My reson being we saw securas ACTUAL death onscreen. We never actually saw shaak ti die for real. We saw her die in a vision, and in multiple deleted scenes, but nothing in the final cut of revenge of the sith. I agree this isnt a force vision, however i dont think that the twi'lek is actually aayla secura. A new padawan taken by shaak ti perhaps, but not secura. My only reason being that secura is never depicted ON SCREEN SPECIFICALLY, as having a shien reverse grip when she uses her lightsaber. It makes sense for her to know form 5, and especially for her to have training in the reverse grip, as that was her master, quinlan vos', preferred technique, but shes never seen using such a style on screen. In legends comics and art most definitely, but if this in fact aayla secura, then this would be the first time THAT I KNOW OF, of her using a reverse grip with her lightsaber in a canon piece of material.
1:30 this is a vision of Yoda's force and as Yoda said time is in perpetual motion and these visions can change so the death of Shaak'ti in this way can be false. 1:56 Surprising a Jedi behind the back is possible but not easy, but in this case, it is a Togruta and old enough for these montrals (very effective for this people to hunt or to feeling each move) to be extremely precise to sense a person around, and that's one of the reasons why this scene was cut because it's not believable. Aayla secura I understand the astonishment unlike the one who was named by fans as the immortal Jedi (Shaak ti because no Canon death) 3:18 The magic of the light side of the force which would have allowed Shaak'ti to bring Aayla Secura back to life is not impossible, knowing the remorse that Shaak ti must have had and probably a desire to try to "repair" imagine that she found the book of the law and the writings of the mother of the witches of Dathomir, that is to say "Allya", I know that it is said of witches that it is always on the dark side which led to the banishment of 'Allya on Dathomir but for Shaak ti who feels responsible for the disaster being on the front line, I think she certainly could have done it anyway! I am personally very happy with the prospect of an official survival of Shaak'ti who is my favorite Jedi master, and if in addition she turned to Dathomirian witchcraft and I also like these witches, then for me it would be , just great ^^
Yes. Of course Aayla survived getting shot at point blank range over every inch of her body. I mean, it's Disney. "Nobody's ever really gone," right? Not when they can milk this cashcow of the last few drops before they have to sell its drained husk to the next guy. God, I need a drink...
Shaak Ti's survival is somewhat believable since all we have that is canon to go on is the vision Yoda sees and visions have been shown to be false and/or misleading. Everything else is deleted scenes, legends, and video games. Aayla being alive on the other hand is utter bonkers. The clones made sure she was dead and blasted her with dozens of blaster bolts/soldier.
One was killed in every Star Wars story ever told , and the other one was shot a thousand times even after she died. This proves beyond any doubt that these people don't know shyt about Star Wars.
Before this point, only Filioni was capable of creating new plot holes and ignoring facts from the movies that were the base of the only considered canon films. Now the comic book stroytellers do the same.... People were always upset about the EU, and claimed that Lucas HIMSELF only considers the movies canon. The thing that not many knows is that back in the day, every EU project had to go through a validating process by the Lucasfilm storyboard, in order to avoid major inconsistencies with the story and or characters. Nowadays, Filoni is the lord and savior, who in reality just brings back an ex EU character when his project is facing bad views and critics, he creates so much more plotholes - that the EU never even had, and the new storyteller groups follow his footsteps. Shame to see SW in that state, worse to see that so many of you like and support it....
What truly bugs me is they had at least 1 Jedi Master they Both Could have used and HAS been a Confirmed survivor of order 66 for Years Quinlan Voss. He keeps getting Brought up in Comics and even in Kenobi but we Don't know what he's doing.
If Bly's squad plan with Aayla was (remove chips - alter weapons) it's possible. If Shaak Ti "carefully" took measures, maybe. Only if both planned for this.
So Ayla survived legitimately after Order 66 for god sake she was gun down and she didn't even able to pull out her Lightsaber you see her fall on the ground in Revenge of the Sith im going to assume some sorta Clones
I mention this on another video, having jedi survive order 66 is starting to make people comment and comment more and i hope these 2 are just visions because stars wars reviving people start to annoy me
TBH if Disney actually went through with making them both survive, it actually wouldn't break Disney Canon at this point. People survive direct Lightsaber stabs all the time now, so Shaak Ti wouldnt be special in that regard, not to mention that she has only ever died off screen, or in an implied way, or in deleted scenes. As for Aayla Secura, im sure they could just pull something out of their butt, like retcon her having fallen in love with a nightsister during the Clone Wars, who then revived her somehow using magic after finding Aaylas body, or they could have one of Aaylas jedi friends know Force Healing like Rey, and maybe right after Aayla gets blasted a ton, that jedi friend pulls up from behind the Clones, kills them all, and revives Aayla as she is "dying". Its honestly not that hard to bring these two characters back if you think about it.
I think its the temple calling on their spirits as s defense mechanism. We saw The Lothal Temple use The Grand Inquisitor's spirit to do the same against Kanan Jarrus. So i imagine its a similar situation.
I believe that Shaak Ti might had a vision or a premonition of the upcoming downfall of the order, after all she is the kind of thinking, planning and meditating Jedi and not a straight fighter that were completely blinded by the clone wars and that she and Aayla Secura found a kind of holocron or noeticon technology and used it to create a copy of their own personality and knowledge like many Jedi and Sith did before, to save their knowledge for a future rebuild of the order. Or they could be just a good old temple vision, since Kanan’s and Ezra’s visions of the Grand Inquisitor in the temple on Lothal was extremely realistic and even truly dangerous too. But I don’t believe that because it were very unlikely for Luke Skywalker would see them because he had no connection to them at all.
Honestly, the way the movie and show creators tend to completely ignore the comics and books justifies the books and comics ignoring them right back. Yes, that's right, the Disney canon has been flagrantly disregarding itself for years. Something people who liked the idea of the expanded universe being decanonized thought would be a thing of the past.
Ti survived but Aayla was shot seven days to Sunday. If ti was in deep meditation, stupendous, then why did the DELETED UNFINISHED SCRAPPY SCENE show her asking “what is it skywalker?” Aware of his presence but apparently not enough to get up and fight.. you will all need to face the fact that yoda’s vision held multiple inaccuracies, that ti did in fact make a recording in hiding that Luke found in a 2015 comic- because she used the same last words in a recording that Jocasta nu did in hiding. That the recordings sighted by Luke include oppo rancisis, Coleman kcaj and Tera sinube- who all are survivors of knightfall and order 66. That she was referred to as “presumed killed” along with Coleman kcaj in the Jedi council section of the 2017 visual guide. That it was totally a different Jedi killed in bad batch on kamino because shaak ti, who isn’t a purple and yellow human, was at coruscant protecting the chancellor a few days before. That she didn’t die because her’s wasn’t one of the dead voices at the end guiding Rey in rise of sighwalker while aayla’s was. More proof she’s alive than not as you can obviously see. Ti’s presence in the temple is significant. It shows either a time locked event or a force illusion she wanted to inflict, and it includes her own memories with a close friend force wise, that being aayla and Clearly grief stricken by her death.
Shaak-Ti is NOT a concrete death. They changed her death several times and then made her fight Starkiller. I do not care if Disney says it isn’t canon anymore it is to me. Shaak-Ti living could make so much since. Aayla Secura living however…. Aint no way.
They are probably just illusions. but if not, it could be that Shaak Ti's Meditation and her needing Ayla, caused them to form a dyaad upon their deaths. and somehow brought them back. I doubt it though.
“Aayla Secura survived”
In ROTS she got shot 50+ times how did she survive
That's what I just clicked on the video for. She got Robocop-ed.
"My death was greatly exaggerated"
"Somehow, Aayla Secura survived."
@@twinodoom nononoononono
@@ducks_meme_hub THE DEAD SPEAK
Hold up, wasn't Aayla shot multiple times at close range by her clone troopers? No way she could have survived that, Jedi master or not.
Yep, pretty much that entire ground crew opened fire on her right away and kept doing it even after she dropped dead
Could be before Order 66 or clone wars era
But she's a girl boss....
She was shot into the planets core
Not just that, they kept on firing at her corpse till they ran out of ammo.
Shaak ti surviving is plausible because it's only shown in a deleted scene, and she's died like 8 other times in Star Wars. However, there is not a single chance Aayla survived. She was gunned down from behind, AND the clones continued to fire after her body had hit the dirt. She's definitely dead. Oppo Rancis and Eith Koth would've been better choices. Hell, even Windu would've been a more viable option
I would have said Quinlan Vos as well, after he barely survived on Kashyyyk.
And Jedi Master K'Kruhk who has a long story of being left for dead only to rise again.
Mace surviving is a ridiculous idea when you consider the details. His lost hand wouldn't matter much, because it was cauterized and people survive lightsaber dismemberments a lot, but the several seconds of being electrocuted by a Sith lord who specializes in lightning, then thrown what I'm going to under-exaggerate as 100ft, likely slamming the side of one of Coruscant's tall buildings or a speeder, then falling many stories to hit the metal that they have instead of dirt, shattering his entire skeleton... There's no possible way Mace would ever survive that. Just about nobody would, aside from Darth Sion, and his only method of doing so was that he was already a Sith initially dying while highly enraged, and just stayed like that. Mace being a Jedi who's main advantage over Sidious at that point was actually a technique that prevented the dark side from touching him meant that as soon as the lightning hit him, he was doomed. I like him as a character, and would have enjoyed seeing more of him, but such an extreme killing method would have left his whole body internally broken, and depending on how hard he landed, he might not even have been recognizable after that. It was a good method of killing such an overpowered character, though, because it's overkill enough to be believable.
@@UnswimmingFishYT Well Luke survived being electrocuted in episode 6 so that alone doesnt mean it would have killed Windu. Also Anakin survived the jump from like 200 meters on top of the speeder from the bounty hunter in episode 2 so from that alone it would be possible as long as Windu was conscious before hitting the ground. But anyway I think so too that he died but there is a reasonable explanation thats all I wanted to say.
Qui gon died to maul by being stabbed in the gut but shaaki ti being stabbed in the heart by the lightsaber and somehow survived no chance shaak ti is definitely dead but Ayala is 100% KIA after 20+ blaster bolts to the body (and eventually the heart) the clones most likely would of confirmed the kill as well Ayala is definitely dead but shaaki ti is TBC (to be confirmed) but most likely dead
I haven’t watched the video. But I NEED to know how Ayla survived that massacre.
Unlike Stormtroopers, Clones can shoot straight. There's no way Ayla survived.
Energy absorbing
@@nodatastored684 a few shot mabye. But sustained fire like that. No they would find the mark eventually
Her horrific massacre/overkill is something that helped yoda sense the betrayal 2:31
@Random Guy um anakin got burned and had the highest possible tech save him. burning gives you a way slower death than shot like 23 times
I distinctly remember seeing Ayyla getting filled with blaster bolts by Bly and his men
I can see Shaak Ti surviving because we never actually SEE her die, but HOW THE HELL did Aayla survive?
We do see her die. In the Clone Wars Yoda has a vision of the future and he watched as Anakin stabs her through the chest
@Sarasti S I meant that it's technically just a vision, which means it could be misinterpreted or something. And Luke DOES still have the lightsaber she dies to in the vision, so anything can happen. It would be a different story if the vision wasn't a vision and we just straight up see it
@@SarastistheSerpent We don't. The Kenobi series literally shows Anakin stab a child through the chest with a lightsaber and she survives with zero permanent injuries, do you now see why your "We do see her die" doesn't make sense?
She does in the bad batch
Same way Sidious did: Bad writing and plot convince.
I love Shaak Ti she's my favorite jedi and is very underrated. I can understand her surviving because they change her death like underwear everyday. 🤣 Just because Yoda saw the vision doesn't mean it came to be because he also saw the jedi fighting the clones in an all out war. But how the hell did Aayla Secura survived?
Shaal Ti must have extra lives, dragon balls, or something. I'm pretty sure that she's owed a free sundae at this point.
Secura is sexy, so Disney is going the sexy route. They did it with the Eternals, so why not Star Wars? 😂
@@ggarzagarciayou won't see me complaining
I'm happy for Shaak Ti if they don't want to make the Force Unleashed cannon but honestly I just want to see more what She did during the clone wars(or before) and not just "boring" babysitting the clone production. She made me fall in love with SW so I really cannot stand how she got durty so many times...and I actually don't like what Dave did to her in his series... I love the way she's portrayed in her own comic which is also not cannon anymore but THAT'S where she shines! That's where we see what a cool Jedi master she truly is(and the Force Unleashed tried to give some of that back)
As for Aayla.... I love her too mostly in legends comics but man... don't make her die a thousand times like Shaak Ti -.-" There's noo point in that...
So they'll probably be ghosts which is... idk fine...that would mean that they were great Jedi bc not every single one can come back as a ghost or is that also not cannon anymore?
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@@RandomGuy-qg9xf Have fun enjoying garbage!
Me: *reads title*
Also me: Whoa whoa whoa I'm sorry what?!?
Can confirm Aayla did not survive
Yeah, 99% of the Jedi died to a single blaster round to the chest, Aayla took like fifty shots _after_ already hitting the ground from being shot multiple times.
like she literally got shot down and WE SEEN IT 😂
Disney wants fans to be woke
@@ednamodee
And they shot her some more while she was on the ground.
Agree
Aayla I can’t figure out a way for her to survive, Shaak Ti is possible, there was a Force technique that could slow the vital functions of a Jedi. If Shaak Ti used this technique upon being stabbed in the direct center of the chest then it is possible that she survived.
or disney just revives her again
Didn't Aayla use a similar technique in a Legends comic? It might have been in one of the Star Wars Republic comics.
How does slowing your vitals save you from having your heart burned up by a lightsaber?
@@jeggsonvohees2201 Because it slows the heart, which in Togruta anatomy, is in a different location than other humanoids. Anakin stabbed Shaak Ti in the upper center of the chest, yet her heart would not be there. Togruta have 5 stomachs, thus meaning some of the organs must also be moved. These stomachs would mean that Shaak Ti’s heart would not be in the same place as a human. Thus stabbing her in the upper center of the chest could most likely not kill her. Also, by slowing the vital functions, this would drop the body temperature rapidly, preventing much burning as the sudden heat would be cooled by the drastic change in body temperature. So from the technique itself, and the difference of the Togruta anatomy, Shaak Ti has a great chance of survival.
@@whitestar7641 Tell me something, if you cool your internal temperature after I throw you into a fire, are you still going to burn?
“Somehow Aayla Secura has returned”
We saw Aayla get Shot in the Back during Order 66, & even Kathleen hated both Shaak's Death Scene.
Wonder how she felt about her death in Force Unleashed?
Shaak Ti being alive wouldn't be so weird since she's killed so many times she's clearly just some kind of immortal, but Aayla is definitely dead. If some writer now says otherwise, they're just bad at their job and should come up with a new character instead if trying to say that she somehow survived multiple shots to the midsection from some of the strongest blaster rifles around, while unarmored and going totally limp partway through the shooting. She obviously died, and probably got her corpse pelted a bit before the clones stopped shooting it. There's just no possible way to convince me that she was actually able to survive that, and even if she was suddenly revealed to have been some kind of illusionist or something and not been shot at all, showing up later she'd have to look different because Twi'leks are mostly comparable to humans, meaning she'd be much older and would probably need to have another character identify her to ensure people knew who it was. Reusing dead characters is just lazy.
Disney can’t come up with new characters. Star Wars Is now a tv series because they flopped on the big screen over and over. No one would’ve believed that 10 years ago but here we are
@@Spooky_515 I mean, Filoni's stuff has new characters, and he mostly mixes in known one just when it fits, but there's room to improve.
Shaak Ti never died in Canon because it was only a deleted scene. What Yoda saw was just a vision and it could be wrong. I think Shaak Ti is alive
Everyone surviving being stabbed with a lightsaber except Qui-Gon.
It's a time vortex. They arrived at the temple in their time as did Luke in the current aby time.
Ooof. How many comments about being angry or shocked they survived Order 66. Patience people. It's only the 1st issue of the arc
God can you imagine being the people who have to organize disney star war timeline with how every show/comic seem like it ignore stuff to do it own thing and leave it to them to figure it out
They are force ghosts on a light side nexus, so there is that
How many deaths is Shaak Ti going to have at this point? She was killed by Grevious, Anakin and Starkiller at seperate points.
a clone army of shaak ti's and aaylas
She died in the bad batch too😊
@@User45610 Nope she did not. I saw a vid that says it's her but that body drops a lightsaber which is definitely NOT hers so...
Ye it's a bit much at this stage and a poor argument as to why she would survive and Aayla didn't.
If Aayla and her squad hatched a plan to remove the chips and alter the weapons it makes sense. It's far more plausible than "how many times dis bitch gonna die?" unless she's an Ainur (one of the force gods themselves) I can't keep talking it seriously cus she never fu¢kin dies.
I would LOVE to see shaak ti in a future project with a major role. Maybe a story inspired by her badass force unleashed reality if…yk she didn’t die.
its most likely a trick of the temple, but honestly disney has already proven they care nothing about the lore or what came before
I'm telling you right now: there's NO WAY Shaak Ti and Aayla Secura survived Order 66. If it's not a vision, the only other immediate things that come to mind are cloning or time travel shenanigans. Both not "the best" explanations, but those two aren't truly alive after the Purge.
Aayla die for sure. Shaak Tis death is always being retcon. So it's possible she survived after Order 66.
Shaak lived Aayla didn’t
Shaak Ti can be alive. Aayla Def cant
shaak ti gets revived like everyday. I'm not sure how they'll retcon a death that happened on the big screen though
Shake ti was in the force unleashed game 15 years ago. So we already knew survived
Aayla is one of my favourite jedi but bringing her back migjt really crush how emotional her death was to the fans and yoda. Especially any OG bf2 players
Damn, do we need to see their heads on pikes to keep Jedi dead? Maybe DNA test their incinerated ashes?
Apparently so. Maul, Boba Fett, Palpatine and now Aayla Secura and Shaak Ti. Sure, why not? No one's ever truly gone 😂
Better check General Grievous...
Perhaps they’re not visions but rather Force Ghosts similar to what we saw in Rebels season 2 with the Grand Inquisitor. Perhaps the Force summoned these 2 back from the Nether Realm to act as guardian for the temple the same way the Lothal Temple did. They could theoretically retcon Shaak Ti’s death because we never see it on screen except for the deleted scene which can easily be made non-cannon but Aalya Secura would be impossible to retconned without getting rid of a scene from the actual movie which would be very difficult to explain away without angering a lot of people both fans as well as several people at LucasFilm. But my money is that they’re Force Ghosts chosen by the Force itself to guard whatever is inside that Temple.
The only problem is that wasn’t a spirit in that lothal temple. It was the actual guy. Vader used his ghost as a trap later
@@ked49 yeah, he was more of just a vision that everybody could see. The grand inquisitor and the other temple guards didn't do any damage to the 7th sister and the 6th brother (at least they didn't seem to be hurt) so i think it's more likely that they're either holograms (again similar to what we saw in rebels with luminara) or visions
Yoda: Eternal dragon grant my wish! Bring back to life Ayla Secura and Shaak Ti!
Shenlong: Are you sure you want to wish for that. Instead of you know Killing the Emperor?
Yoda: Oh no it's fine just bring back Ayla and Shaak Ti please.
Shenlong: Really? Because a few crossed wires and boom. No more Empire.
Yoda: Oh no i'm sure those two can handle things.
Shenlong: Fuck it! Your wish has been granted!
Aaylla definitely isn’t alive but there is a chance shaak ti could’ve survived as we’ve now seen a handful of people survive stab wounds
Be easy to recon Shak Ti's death as heck in star wars cannon and legends, she has been killed by at lest three different people; Grievous on the invisible hand, Vader in the temple and by Starkiller on Felucia and then had her fate changed and as her fate is never seen on film. Secura is ruthlessly and quickly killed on Felucia by her clones.
So suspect it is probably some kind of defence mechanism on behalf of the temple to test visitors as to their worthiness to enter and whether they are jedi or sith at the same time.
Aayla didint survive she was Blasted to high heaven by her company, they did it out of respect and that's just pissing on her and the clones under her command, they loved her
If aayla survived, which I doubt, could someone have saved her with that weird time loop thing in rebels that Ashoka and Ezra were in? Maybe it was her commander, perhaps he got his inhibitor chip removed and somehow found a way to enter; with the help of a nother jedi?
The world between worlds. Yes that is possible.
"Somehow Shaak Ti and Aayla Secura returned"
Yep, leave it to Disney, just when you think they can't get any dumber
This is shocking to know that Aayla Secura and Shaak Ti Survived Order when they both died in ROTS.
i mean we never saw shaak ti truly die, but we def saw aayla die
How on earth did Aayla survive?!? She was shot in the back dozens of times. Once she dropped dead, the clones kept shooting to make sure. Disney just can’t help themselves
That's the neat part: It wasn't on earth! (I'll see myself out)
@@Vlad_Tepes_III
1. Bad joke
2. I chuckled
3. Why doesn't anyone in disney stay dead? Total cop-out
Somehow Aayla Secura returned
Somehow Palpatine and Boba Fett also returned. Why not? Does anyone really care at this point?
@@ShadowFiend777 Boba Fett I can understand, he came back in the old EU (and it was awesome), but Disney butchered the character.
Aayla got lit up from blaster fire from just about every conceivable angle...AT point blank range. 😄 Has to be some force apparition, or some other trickery.
Aayla: *Has multiple blaster bolt holes*
How is that possible when you saw them both killed in episode 3?
They to hot to die
They showed Ayla being shot but they never showed shaaki
We don’t see Shaak Ti die in RotS outside of a deleted scene, but we see her die in the clone wars. Yoda has a vision of her death at Anakin’s hand
@@SarastistheSerpent well they keep changing the cannon with her because they said she died in the deleted scene in the temple which was deemed cannon but orginally she didn't die until the force unleashed game which George Lucas himself had deemed cannon which I myself agree with.
Aayla secura the goat, only person in the entire galaxy to survive over 20 blaster shots to the back completely unarmored. Just built different entirely
I saw Aayla get lit up like a Christmas tree in episode 3
Aayla got shot so many times, they covered her body from view under foliage while she was being gunned down. What's next, are they going to say Ki Adi Mundi and Plo Koon somehow survived?
Ki Adi Mundi was also shot down and died from getting shot multiple times, difference is that the clones stopped firing after he hit the ground, alaiya was brutally gunned down, I would say equivalent to getting shot by a whole squad of guys carrying LMGs and for good measure continued to unload into the target after said target is clearly already dead, there’s no getting up from that.
I’m starting to get annoyed with all these Jedi surviving Order 66.
I’m starting to get annoyed at how dumb Star Wars fans are
Like do you really think the clones killed all the Jedi? And if they did why would Darth Vader start the inquisitor program to hunt Jedi if there was only a hand full left? And if only a few Jedi survived why would palpitine tell Darth Vader to hunt down all Jedi survivors?
@@Luring_Leon These 2 Jedi should already be dead.
Anakin killed Shaak-ti, and Alyaa Secura was absolutely bodied by the clones.
@@KraNisOG yea, but I am not talking about that
Agreed every time, a new order 66 survivor in some new Disney. At this point its just boring
Maybe they are force ghosts or something. Mystical stuff tends to happen in jedi temples.
Same question as a lot of other people: Aayla was shot on-screen. And also, with all due respect, if we wanted to continue the storyline of the jedi of the old republic, wouldn't it make sense to use the power of suspending disbelief on Mace Windu or Plo Koon?
No, because Mace and Plo are EVIL MEN. You forgot The Force is female. 🤣
It's a vision, it has to be.
But what pisses me off about star wars is not you can get impaled by a lightsaber and be fine. SMH.
It’s got to be a trick. We saw Aayla get more holes put in her than a cheese grater. As for Shaak Ti, well it wouldn’t be the first time her death was retconned. Honestly that woman has more lives than a cat 😂
YES Shaak Ti was always a beautiful to me!
Heck Yeah!!!
If this is a retcon then that’ll bring up the death count of Saaak Ti
i think it is a vision , or some kind of hallucination but if they really survived well i get that Shaak Ti can survive coz we didn't see her death (and vision on dagobah wasn't exactly the same as order 66 scenes) but Aayla was literally shot dozens of times in the back and that will make no sense
Wft? One was shoot down and the other was stabbed in the chest!
The two greatest Jedi Watchmen - Ultimate Mind-Trick 🌌 ... but in all seriousness if a story can be told of the Shear-Survival and Will to Fight the destruction that was Order 66 off Felucia & Coroursant. I am very 👍 for that
personally, i do think it might be possible for Shaak Ti to survive as she was known to be a healer, also people irl have survived injuries similar to what she experienced and lightsabers also cauterize any wounds right away due to the heat, and her death was in a deleted scene so Disney/Star Wars could change it and say she survived.
Aayla Secura on the other hand, I'm not so sure. unlike Shaak Ti, Aayla wasn't a healer and with how brutally she was killed and that it was on Felucia that from what i understand is a very dangerous planet, i don't see how she could have survived. Even if she somehow survived her injuries from the clones i feel like the wildlife on Felucia would have finished her off.
So i do think that Shaak Ti could have survived, but i don't think Aayla could have survived.
If they survived, then Order 66 was a complete and utter failure as this means not only did Vader fail to kill all the younglings (Reva), but a majority of the Jedi council survived in which case this shows a clear problem with Anakin and the clones' effectiveness during this time.
Personally id actually LIKE for shaak ti specifically to have survived order 66. My reson being we saw securas ACTUAL death onscreen. We never actually saw shaak ti die for real. We saw her die in a vision, and in multiple deleted scenes, but nothing in the final cut of revenge of the sith. I agree this isnt a force vision, however i dont think that the twi'lek is actually aayla secura. A new padawan taken by shaak ti perhaps, but not secura. My only reason being that secura is never depicted ON SCREEN SPECIFICALLY, as having a shien reverse grip when she uses her lightsaber. It makes sense for her to know form 5, and especially for her to have training in the reverse grip, as that was her master, quinlan vos', preferred technique, but shes never seen using such a style on screen. In legends comics and art most definitely, but if this in fact aayla secura, then this would be the first time THAT I KNOW OF, of her using a reverse grip with her lightsaber in a canon piece of material.
OH COME ON!!! THEY DID NOT SURVIVE! Especially Aayla! She was shot multiple times to the point that she probably had more holes than Swish Cheese!
1:30 this is a vision of Yoda's force and as Yoda said time is in perpetual motion and these visions can change so the death of Shaak'ti in this way can be false.
1:56 Surprising a Jedi behind the back is possible but not easy, but in this case, it is a Togruta and old enough for these montrals (very effective for this people to hunt or to feeling each move) to be extremely precise to sense a person around, and that's one of the reasons why this scene was cut because it's not believable.
Aayla secura I understand the astonishment unlike the one who was named by fans as the immortal Jedi (Shaak ti because no Canon death)
3:18 The magic of the light side of the force which would have allowed Shaak'ti to bring Aayla Secura back to life is not impossible, knowing the remorse that Shaak ti must have had and probably a desire to try to "repair" imagine that she found the book of the law and the writings of the mother of the witches of Dathomir, that is to say "Allya", I know that it is said of witches that it is always on the dark side which led to the banishment of 'Allya on Dathomir but for Shaak ti who feels responsible for the disaster being on the front line, I think she certainly could have done it anyway!
I am personally very happy with the prospect of an official survival of Shaak'ti who is my favorite Jedi master, and if in addition she turned to Dathomirian witchcraft and I also like these witches, then for me it would be , just great ^^
I really hope it's a vision or illusion, because Bly and his boys UNLOADED on her, and not in the r34 way.
Wooohooo!
Yes. Of course Aayla survived getting shot at point blank range over every inch of her body. I mean, it's Disney. "Nobody's ever really gone," right? Not when they can milk this cashcow of the last few drops before they have to sell its drained husk to the next guy. God, I need a drink...
Maybe they used the dragon balls lol
@@Jghost11 SENSU BEAN~!
Yeah, I'm absolutely pissed off at Disney as well. This is all reading like bad fanfiction.
Shaak Ti has known immortality secrets on Darth Vitiate's level long before (how many times did she died before? 3-4?).
Amazing
Disney cannon a blaster bolts the same as a tazer 😅 kinda like how you can get cut with a lightsaber and NOT get horribly disfigured
"OH MY GOD, THEY KILLED SHAAK TI!"
"YOU NERF-HERDERS!"
Shaak Ti's survival is somewhat believable since all we have that is canon to go on is the vision Yoda sees and visions have been shown to be false and/or misleading. Everything else is deleted scenes, legends, and video games. Aayla being alive on the other hand is utter bonkers. The clones made sure she was dead and blasted her with dozens of blaster bolts/soldier.
One was killed in every Star Wars story ever told , and the other one was shot a thousand times even after she died.
This proves beyond any doubt that these people don't know shyt about Star Wars.
Whoever made this comic definitely did not pay attention to Revenge of the Sith
If they retcon previous canon, they should retcon the Disney acquisition of SW while they're at it
Before this point, only Filioni was capable of creating new plot holes and ignoring facts from the movies that were the base of the only considered canon films. Now the comic book stroytellers do the same.... People were always upset about the EU, and claimed that Lucas HIMSELF only considers the movies canon. The thing that not many knows is that back in the day, every EU project had to go through a validating process by the Lucasfilm storyboard, in order to avoid major inconsistencies with the story and or characters.
Nowadays, Filoni is the lord and savior, who in reality just brings back an ex EU character when his project is facing bad views and critics, he creates so much more plotholes - that the EU never even had, and the new storyteller groups follow his footsteps. Shame to see SW in that state, worse to see that so many of you like and support it....
What truly bugs me is they had at least 1 Jedi Master they Both Could have used and HAS been a Confirmed survivor of order 66 for Years Quinlan Voss. He keeps getting Brought up in Comics and even in Kenobi but we Don't know what he's doing.
If Bly's squad plan with Aayla was (remove chips - alter weapons) it's possible. If Shaak Ti "carefully" took measures, maybe. Only if both planned for this.
Shaak ti is such a underrated charakter
So Aayla Secura survived hundreds of blaster bolts and Shaak Ti survived being run through by General Grevious?
That deleted scene is not canon
2:30 Shaak Ti's death being concrete is not something I thought I'd ever hear.
Aayla was gunned down by her troops in Revenge of the Sith and Shaak Ti was ran through the back by Anakin...(shown in Clone Wars) .
Honestly I been waiting for her to come back I'm so excited 😍 hope she don't just die again I'll be so pissed 🤣
Aayla's end is well known, Shaak Ti not so much. This is probably some Force induced vision.
So Ayla survived legitimately after Order 66 for god sake she was gun down and she didn't even able to pull out her Lightsaber you see her fall on the ground in Revenge of the Sith im going to assume some sorta Clones
Aayla Secura died in Revenge of the Sith. She was shot multiple times by the clone troopers in Order 66, this makes no sense and it breaks canon!
I mention this on another video, having jedi survive order 66 is starting to make people comment and comment more and i hope these 2 are just visions because stars wars reviving people start to annoy me
Somehow, aayla returned...
TBH if Disney actually went through with making them both survive, it actually wouldn't break Disney Canon at this point. People survive direct Lightsaber stabs all the time now, so Shaak Ti wouldnt be special in that regard, not to mention that she has only ever died off screen, or in an implied way, or in deleted scenes. As for Aayla Secura, im sure they could just pull something out of their butt, like retcon her having fallen in love with a nightsister during the Clone Wars, who then revived her somehow using magic after finding Aaylas body, or they could have one of Aaylas jedi friends know Force Healing like Rey, and maybe right after Aayla gets blasted a ton, that jedi friend pulls up from behind the Clones, kills them all, and revives Aayla as she is "dying". Its honestly not that hard to bring these two characters back if you think about it.
I think its the temple calling on their spirits as s defense mechanism. We saw The Lothal Temple use The Grand Inquisitor's spirit to do the same against Kanan Jarrus. So i imagine its a similar situation.
It might be possible that the temple contained the secret to becoming a force ghost and that Shaak Ti and Ayla Secura found it.
I believe that Shaak Ti might had a vision or a premonition of the upcoming downfall of the order, after all she is the kind of thinking, planning and meditating Jedi and not a straight fighter that were completely blinded by the clone wars and that she and Aayla Secura found a kind of holocron or noeticon technology and used it to create a copy of their own personality and knowledge like many Jedi and Sith did before, to save their knowledge for a future rebuild of the order.
Or they could be just a good old temple vision, since Kanan’s and Ezra’s visions of the Grand Inquisitor in the temple on Lothal was extremely realistic and even truly dangerous too. But I don’t believe that because it were very unlikely for Luke Skywalker would see them because he had no connection to them at all.
Shaak Ti is the most killed Jedi in Star Wars. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if she survived yet again only to be killed one last time.
World between worlds, ghosts, some secret Darkside user brought them back to turn them dark but they resisted and escaped
Honestly, the way the movie and show creators tend to completely ignore the comics and books justifies the books and comics ignoring them right back.
Yes, that's right, the Disney canon has been flagrantly disregarding itself for years. Something people who liked the idea of the expanded universe being decanonized thought would be a thing of the past.
10 bucks bly said "set blasters to stunt" very quickly before smoking aayla
Ti survived but Aayla was shot seven days to Sunday. If ti was in deep meditation, stupendous, then why did the DELETED UNFINISHED SCRAPPY SCENE show her asking “what is it skywalker?” Aware of his presence but apparently not enough to get up and fight..
you will all need to face the fact that yoda’s vision held multiple inaccuracies, that ti did in fact make a recording in hiding that Luke found in a 2015 comic- because she used the same last words in a recording that Jocasta nu did in hiding. That the recordings sighted by Luke include oppo rancisis, Coleman kcaj and Tera sinube- who all are survivors of knightfall and order 66. That she was referred to as “presumed killed” along with Coleman kcaj in the Jedi council section of the 2017 visual guide. That it was totally a different Jedi killed in bad batch on kamino because shaak ti, who isn’t a purple and yellow human, was at coruscant protecting the chancellor a few days before. That she didn’t die because her’s wasn’t one of the dead voices at the end guiding Rey in rise of sighwalker while aayla’s was.
More proof she’s alive than not as you can obviously see. Ti’s presence in the temple is significant. It shows either a time locked event or a force illusion she wanted to inflict, and it includes her own memories with a close friend force wise, that being aayla and Clearly grief stricken by her death.
Wow
Shaak-Ti is NOT a concrete death. They changed her death several times and then made her fight Starkiller. I do not care if Disney says it isn’t canon anymore it is to me. Shaak-Ti living could make so much since. Aayla Secura living however…. Aint no way.
By this Point, Lucasfilm should make a Joke about Master T.
Gonna hit the doubt button on that ‘X’ she was gunned down
Ayla literally gets shot to hell. There’s no way she’s alive
Spider-Man 2099: It's a Canon Event.
They had kylo ren survive a lightsaber stab some I’m not surprised by this
I’m starting to think Order 66 was the biggest failure ever. Next thing you’re gonna tell me is Anakin didn’t actually kill any younglings.
About 10000 jedi all together and less than 50 survived order 66.. i dont think it was a fail lol
Shaak Ti could’ve did that force projection thing like Luke did to face Kyle Ren 🤷♂️ She probably taught how to use it. Who knows
Oh look more survivors... Retcon retcon retcon. I think we need more retcons. 😂
They are probably just illusions. but if not, it could be that Shaak Ti's Meditation and her needing Ayla, caused them to form a dyaad upon their deaths. and somehow brought them back. I doubt it though.
Two out of the three sexiest Jedi survive! Hell yeah!
Except one of them being alive doesn't make sense. Don't get me wrong, I love me some sexy Jedi, but c'mon, Aayla was confirmed dead!
it’s actually a myth that any Jedi died during order 66
Shaak Ti could be possible sence here death was never on screen. But Alaya was shot...and shot...and shot some more. Shed be to crispy to resurrect
"Shed be too crispy to resurrect" got me laughing a lot more than it should have. XD