Back in the 50's there was a place called Academy Army Surplus in San Antonio. The back room was full of wooden racks full of surplus military rifles. I was just a kid but I remember my uncle buying a British .303 for $13.00.
I bought one in 1999 for $20. I'm glad that I hung on to it. The guy that I got it from had acquired it as part of a trade. He just assumed that the barrel was shot out, and it was junk. It was still caked in cosmoline. I was so impatient that I wiped it down, and ran a brush down the barrel before I shot it. I completely missed a 5 gallon bucket at 15 yards. Lol I hit it twice out of 10 shots. I was young and dumb, so I assumed that the guy was right. About 5 years later I was bored, and sick of the gun cabinet smelling like cosmoline. I broke it down, and cleaned it correctly. That thing turned out to be a pretty good shooter. The brass buttplate will give your shoulder the next day blues after several shots. It is still a very capable tool.
@@russellpersinger3589 Do you remember what model? I tried to research mine a little bit. She has definitely been around the block. It was made at the old Towers Arsenal in 1917. If memory serves me, the barrels were press fitted. There is absolutely no way that my barrel is original. The stock has been knocked around plenty. There are several markings on the furniture, and the foregrip is worn from being held at the ready. I just find it hard to believe that it went through two World Wars, and still has decent rifling. It isn't great, but it won't just eat a .311 projectile at the muzzle either. The action is still strong. The locking surfaces (kind of weird, compared to "Mauser" types) have definitely beat themselves home a bit. This is somewhat visible to the naked eye. At some point, my brain finally caught up with my balls, and I had it checked out by reputable gunsmith. He mentioned that it had been redone at an arsenal at least once, but the wood furniture seems to be original. He did mention that swapping my bolt with another rifle could make for a bad day. A gunsmith would not have done this unless EVERY single gun mattered. He said that he wouldn't have believed that a professional would have done it that way, but the head space and chamber dimensions were just too right to be accidental. Anyway, sorry for the rambling. Milsurps all have a story to tell. Sometimes you get more questions than answers. That is part of their intrigue.
About the early 90's a local sporting goods store advertised some Enfields for $69.00. By the time I got there they were out but gave me a raincheck. I dropped in a few weeks later, no Enfields but had '96 Swedish Mausers for which they honored the raincheck. Even better I love this cartridge. Picked up a Rem 700 in that caliber a few years later.
Yup. I remember seeing an ad for an all new .44 Automag for a then staggering $200. The surplus rifles frequently found at a hardware store sticking out of a barrel full of them for almost nothing.. Those were the days pre 68.
How is possible buy a M 1 A sur plus carbine, and it can be by internet ?, and what about the price ?, that somebody send a link with the company owners that are sailing it in north America ! Thanks, and what about the germans luggers ?
Yep most likely at military surplus auction and I bet you they probably got them dirt cheap probably 1 to three grand a case. I'm glad I already have what I need. So I don't have to worry about price gouging assholes like these guys.
One day after this video was uploaded. “Come get your WWII surplus M1 Carbines at Classic Firearms!” I just checked their website and It’s SUPER AWESOME that they have “good” condition WWII vintage M1 Carbines for sale at $1300-$1500 a pop. Thanks for the informative video, I’m just not willing to pay what they are asking for a C&R piece along with the .75 cents a round to enjoy it.
@@stephenharmon5155 Yeh, don't buy any 7.62x39 until the price goes back to $80 per thousand and FREE (lol) shipping. I remember one guy whining years ago when the price per thousand went over $90. LOL I guess he still has low round count SKS.
@@charlesmckinley29 No kidding. I swear 99% of the whiners have zero clue how US inflation is skyrocketing. Forget your sweet memories of "cheap" surplus.
Surplus: when you want antiquated technology at prices several times higher than what a modern, more capable rifle costs. The days of buying surplus to save a buck are over.
@@tlwisner Surplus used to be priced that anyone could afford it. It was so inexpensive then you could legitimately justify choosing surplus over new weapons simply because of how less expensive it was. Now you're paying significantly more to buy a surplus firearm than a modern, brand new firearm that's more capable.
@@LawlessNate yes but they aren’t making these rifles anymore so the supply is going down while demand is at least staying the same if not increasing; therefore, prices go up. It has nothing to do with the capability of the firearm. It is where it might have been.
Wow I used to buy a lot of surplus rifles And hand gun's thank God I still have them. You can't do business with them like you use to. Classic kinda took the fun out of surplus. My buying days are over. Too expensive. But still like to look.
There is no such thing as gouging. If the price is to high you don’t buy it. Supply and demand will correct the price. However if the demand is higher than supply the price will continue to rise. They haven’t made most of these guns in over 50 year so the supply is only decreasing.
@@everydaycarrymonkey2691 it’s basic economics. The supply of these guns is going down. Most haven’t been made in over 50 years. There are people willing and able to pay this price. The prices aren’t going down on military arms. There is no new supply and demand remains the same or increases relative to supply= higher prices. People talk about what they cost 40 years ago. What did a new car cost 40 years ago?
Ikr? The jungle carbines are some fair prices all things considered. Beyond that, man, there was a time when picking up milsurp guns was so desirable because you got history + a better price. Yes Yes I know those days are long gone, but I just have to pass on most milsurps today. Saw another operation selling ex police beretta 92s for the same price as a new one- just whats the point. Another selling a truly beat to death cz75b for right at 500. Both those hardly qualify as milsurp but you get the idea. We're in a wonderful market economy though- if no one pays those prices they'll come down. For some of these classics I'll be taking the CMP route..
Are those carbines seriously 1300?! They are beat to death!. If everyone bans together they will get upset that warehouse full of the arms that are supposed to be cheap are clogging up their space!
I remember buying an SKS 'new' Chinese import back in 1990 for $100 in the box. Sold it for same a couple years later. Yes, I regret selling that and every other gun I've ever sold, lol.
Yea we would get them in the wood crate wrapped in cosmoline paper and for 69$ or 120$ for two SKS, or Makarov 9mm pistols Same price! Bought for friends, now have none! Crazy 1990's
I saw one at a gun show at about the same time for $65.00. Wish I would have bought several. They even had a pack of ammunition with them all sealed up.
I found my M1Carbine at the hardware store sticking out of a barrel and a box full of mags. & Ammo. Can't believe people pay a $1,000 or more for them today!
1200 dollars for a shot out barrel and worn out action that has been maintained buy Ethiopian soldiers who can’t read and then stored in a open air warehouse with a dirt floor.
No one is forced to buy from them. If your time is more important than the added cost of searching high and low for a bargain it is an acceptable trade off.
Also if people would stop paying the ridiculous price for surplus items then importers/distributors/vendors would be forced to lower the prices. Better to make some money than no money from something. But there are too many dunskys willing to pay these prices; thus they keep going up.
@@charlesmckinley29 when folks with more money than sense got into our game plus the federal idiocy of stopping imports THAT killed our hobby. Classic has no bargains and their quality is frequently suspect.
I got my carbine from a Reenactor years ago. Rock-ola with an NPM stock. High wood, flip sight, no bayo lug. This guy did reenactment of everything from the Boer war to WW2. He owned some very rare stuff.
Many of these will be too expensive to shoot at today's ammo prices. If you can find the ammo at all. Add a high price for the used guns and it becomes an unreal proposition.
What a candy store for us military surplus enthusiasts! I'd love to go just look through this warehouse. Prices are keeping me from buying one of each.
@@vaska916 No 1994 Del Mar gun show San Diego. $25 Arsenal refurbished Nagant pistols And $99 brand new in the Box Chinese SKS. No gas was under 2 bucks.
@@123edwardzpad 1994 average US price per gallon was $1.15. The point is, even just a few years ago the gun prices were a lot cheaper. Then the whole BLM riots happened and everyone got scared so they increased demand and people were paying scalper price for 9mm the same as gold
not going to bother asking how much. Too pricy probably . I'll stick with Mosins for now. I don't remember the last time I bought anything from Classic.
No e of these guns are worth having for the prices being ask for them. Maybe an SKS in good condition for $350-400, but other than that, just get an AR from PSA, or a SW M&P 15, and save the rest of your money for ammo.
Recently made some folks happy and sold all my surplus guns and ammo Amazing what this stuff is worth now. The prices are just crazy and it was time to pick that fruit. Kept a M98 and an 03A3 I just couldn't part with and will leave to my son. The only one I have small regret on is the K31, it was sweet.
in 1965 in Phoenix, AZ there was a surplus store on 16th ST south of Camelback RD named Yates Army and Navy Store. They had a wooden barrel with different military rifles, most stilled wrapped in paper . There were M-1 carbines for $15.00 you pick it. Amazing.
I went for a vacation trip up to the capital of California went to a surplus warehouse selling ww2 rifles found a pile of Johnson barrels receiver no stocks @$20.00 a shot! Years later saw there wood stocks for sale in a gun news paper never bought any
Milsurp prices have gotten too high for my blood. Good luck to the rich fools who decide to pay these rates for whatever sight-unseen beater Classic pulls out of the bottom of the crate for them.
If we still lived in a FREE country and our 2nd amendment rights were not heavily INFRINGED we would have access to crates of cheap surplus M16’s and M4 carbines.
@Joe Motherfuckenblow Which counts as infringement. How dumb are you? My 6 year old can read. I'll rewrite it incase you're too dumb to look yourself. "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." What part of "shall not be infringed"? Do you not understand. It doesn't say anything about any type, style, or feeding mechanism. It says, in plain English that even a mentally disabled individual could understand, that our rights to bear arms are inalienable. If you can't handle or understand that, you might want to walk that ass down wash out lane with the rest of the liberal crybabies.
I used to go to a lot of army surplus stores growing up. Picked up warm navy pea coats, army coats,jackets, pants, dungarees, chambray shirts etc. I understand when they make certain firearms in very small quantities it makes them very expensive on secondary market. However when they are produced in the millions or hundreds of thousands it doesn't justify the prices being so exorbitant. Guess time has passed me by. Would love one of each for collection, could never afford on low income.
They are literally sold out of everything that I’d be interested in purchasing in the video 🤣 and they want $2,400 for a Swiss Luger. Give me a break. Smh.
The 303 SmLes look thrashed and so dry. Those stocks have to be regularly oiled to keep from literally ruining the accuracy of their semi floated barrel/stock configuration. These things look like popsicle sticks
New guns very nice, old guns full of fun. So many lovely items & just love the passion and difference between 4 guns all made at around the same time and you can actually pick one out that is unique and that what’s make them so cool. Go to the range and a couple of old guns always shooting, I would love to turn up with one of the unique weapons and feel smug as they will not own something this special. I’ve used one of the guns when I was younger and the weapon must of been about 70 years old and you could still hit the target more accurately then I was expecting
In 1989, my dad's cousin showed me an M1 Carbine that was made by IBM. I was amazed to learn that. He passed away so I have no idea what happened to it.
When Ben was there hawking the guns there were still good deals to be had. I miss old Ben...he was a hoot. I have bought a few firearms from them and they always did me square. Have not bought any from them in years, simply because there are no more "deals" in surplus firearms. About 5 years ago I bought a pristine Swiss K 31 with the case for a fair price. I went online and bought boxes of the GP 11 ammo for less than 40.00. I priced that ammo yesterday for $129.00 a box for 60 rounds. The good old days are over. You either have it or you will pay.
Sorry but the prices on classic frirearms have gone into full blown price gouging mode. I think I will wait till the market gets back to normal but classic firearms shouldn't be trying to rip people off like this.
@@mauricemelton8430 big difference between things gradually going up from inflation and what is going on right now. This is price gouging. But hey if you disagree then feel free to spend $1300.00 on a carbine. While your at it spend 4 of 5 hundred dollars for a 1000 rounds of 9mm. I say no thanks I will wait till the market comes back to normal.
Wish I could get myself one of those M1 Garands or Carbines, or a Luger or K98. *Drool* But I guess everyone else says Classic Firearms sucks. That's sad.
I've bought from Classic Firearms during their black friday sale. When they do have good deals, they are indeed good deals. Like the other dude said customer service was pretty good. Just be careful of their surplus because I've heard mix bags of questionable quality control issues.
@@Arnuld15Governator The guns are indeed beat to hell and back. They still work for the most part but need a good bit of work if you want one restored. The Ethiopians got their moneys worth (and more) out of those guns. I know all of this because I was the guy who packed every single gun (including the enfields) in the crates to send to classic firearms. Not only did I pack them but I was the ONLY guy who did the packing. I personally inspected every gun we sent them.
K98 Mauser in 8mm, 1903 Springfield in 30-06, and Enfield in .303 British, my favorite bolt guns of the Great War, kicking myself for trading those rifles off and will never see the prices that I paid for them 40 years ago!
I wonder how many stores they had those at? My dad always told me he paid $30 at Roses for the 303s he has. I'm pretty sure it was $30. Could've been $49.
Bought some super cheap .303 Brit....1,000 rds with a Long Branch No.4 for less than $100. I spent weeks tumbling the ammo in a rock polisher to get most of the crap off the brass. It literally looked like a warehouse floor was broomed in a central African republic. I still have about 800 cartridges of that lot. Too many that don't fire, too many Clik-Bangs and too few that fire normally. Plus the bullet diameters are very inconsistent going from .308 to .318/.320. I found some loose bullets in the crate and the cases they fell out of. I measured the bullets and that's when I discovered the erratic diameters. So yes, I measured all 1,000 of them that's how I learned how common the problem was. The ammo was made at arsenals all around the British Commonwealth from 1940 to 45. It should've been machinegun ammo with those crappy bullets.
I purchased through the NRA in i think, 1964. I paid $15 for my remington1911 and $15 for my inland m1 carbine. They arrived in a cardboard box. No padding, just sliding around in the box. I still have both.
When I was in Thailand with Marines in 1973 the Thais all had M-1 carbines...got one pointed at me sneaking back on Base from an Off Limits Vil visit...
I can see that you are a patriot who hates communism, i am like you, the difference is that i am Brazilian, and you can't imagine how my people miss Donald Trump.
I have picked up a few through the years. I like the Mauser and Mosin , SKS very common cartridges. Just don't get to use as much as I like to. Urban sprawl has ruined some of my old gravel pits I used years ago.
$1200-$1500 for a carbine, naa I'm good. I saw them in an old gun shop lining an entire upper wall for $99 each. That's probably what these guys paid for them.
@@sammyprestwood3182 Mariana Florida, they're all gone now. They had hundreds of them. At $1200 you can buy a nice rifle making the surplus market pointless.
Because yokels are willing to pay 2-3x what these weapons are worth thus driving the prices higher and higher. If all or most people would refuse to pay these prices then sellers would be forced to lower the prices as to still make SOME money rather than no money.
50 years ago I bought a WWII surplus 8mm German Mouser. It was brand new still in its packaging and beautifully made. Ammo was cheep then and I really enjoyed shooting it. I sold it many years ago and I now regret it.
I got my model 1917 from a friend, he had bought 4 of these at a gun show back when it was possible to buy and not feel angry or ripped off. My Garand service rifle from CMP cost under $500 back in the 1990's. Now, impossible.
M1 are cool but the supply of surplus .30 carbine has dried up, try and find any .30 cal ammo for less than .75 per round and classics prices are high!
Scotch, Saginaw Steering Gear Plant 2, was built to make 1919A4 30cal. machine gun. The government wanted 28 guns in 1942 for $667 each. SSG gave them 28,000 at $141 each. By the end of the war they were $54. I worked there in the 80's making truck gears.
That statement is most likely true. Recently the kids, who sit and play war video games, have been buying the shet out of SKS's and the like, go figure.
Don't think so. I've heard that several times in my life. First it was Colts then Winchesters, then WW2 stuff. Decent quality firearms that people are interested in will bridge generations. That's why Colts, Winchesters and such have never gone down in value. Don't think you're gonna get a honey pot unless you find a special rainbow. Besides with inflation running like wildfire by the time the geezer collectors sell their collections the prices will waaay more than now.
I recently found the bill of sale where my grandfather had bought to M1 carbines one of which had a stock on it that had not even been finished it was still bare wood it would make you cry if you knew what he paid for them back then compared to what they are worth right now it is unreal
Enfield's and 49-56 could be had all night and day for well under $90 years ago. I used to get good Enfield ammo that shot 1 moa for under 10 cents a round. Cheap shooting fun. My first long gun.
I've always wanted am M1 carbine. My uncle had one. He was island hopping in the Pacific during WW11. His last battle was on Okinawa. One time I was watching the History channel about the battle of Okinawa. He came over to visit. We were talking and all of a sudden he stopped and looked hard at the TV. Then he said that he had fought there. He said the Japanese would charge their lines for a long time. They would just keep shooting and shooting. He said he doesn't know how many Japanese he killed. He said that the worst thing he remembered from fighting in the Pacific was the smell of burnt flesh. He said that just watching the TV brought back the memory of the smell. He was a Marine fighting with a M1 Carbine. He lived next to a soy bean field in Louisiana south of Alexandria. One morning there was a big buck in the field he took his M1 opened the back door and shot that buck. He dropped him with one shot at about 300 yards with iron sights. He had the head mounted and hung it one wall in his living room. He told me after that, he said that it wasn't even a challenge with that shot. He never shot that rifle again. It brought back too many memories. I tried to get that M1 from him for years, but he would not let me have it. There was no way to get it from him. So I stopped trying. Then one day I went to his house and the rifle was not on the gun rack where it sat for years. I didn't even ask him what happened to it. I really wanted that rifle. I still don't know why he would not let me have that rifle for any deal. He lived well into his nineties. Then one day his daughter called and he had died. I will always miss him he was like a second dad to me. I still would like to know what happened to that rifle. I wish it was mine.
I know the feeling. My dad had a Winchester Model 70 that he won in a raffle in '62 he shot it deer hunting in Montana one time, I was 10 at the time and he never shot it again. When I was 65, he died from Parkinson's and he had gotten rid of the rifle and he had also disposed of his military footlocker and all his uniforms, flight suits, and medals. I have a senior command pilot wings of his, he flew P51's after Korean War in Japan but never talked much about the fighter planes he flew in twenty years in the Air Force. Fathers, please talk to your kids. What you tell them will be in their memory of you after you are gone.
@@flukedogwalker3016 My dad also fought in WW2. He fought in France, Belgium, and Germany. He hardly ever talked about it. I didn't find out until after he died that he was a medic in the war. One time when he was drinking a few beers, I got him to talk about it. He told me when he was in Germany. They were fighting house to house in a town, a sniper was shooting guys left and right. When they got to the house the sniper was in the attic. Some of the guys were sticking their bayonets through the ceiling. The guy was screaming as blood was poring out the ceiling. When they pulled the guy out the ceiling, that's when they realized that it was a little boy maybe about 12 years old. My dad went outside and threw up after that. He was also declared KIA for four days. He got separated from the other guys. When he made it back to the other guys he was out of ammo and dragging his gun because he was so tired. I found this out when we went to visit one of his old army buddies one time. They were fighting in Germany, my dad blacked out from the shelling. when he came back to he was on a ship headed back to the U.S. He found out he was on a 30 day R&R then he was going to be shipped to the Pacific. I found out more from his discharge papers and other people what went on in the war. The only time you could get him to talk about it was when he was drinking. After he died in 1984 my mom was going threw some of his stuff. She came across his discharge papers. I looked at them that's when I found out he was a medic and that he received 2 medals, one was The Bronze Star and the other was something I never heard of before. Back then you couldn't just Google it. I'm going to have to dig up his discharge papers and see what that other medal was. He didn't have his medals anymore because he was married when the war started. So he sent his medals to her. When he got back to the U.S. he caught her with another guy. He asked her about his stuff. She had sold everything he owned, even his 2 medals. He divorced her and moved to New Orleans. He ended making his way down to where he lived out the rest of his life where I live now. I wish I had his medals. That was wrong what his ex-wife did. Those were not hers to sell. She should have went to jail for that.
@@jasonneucere8886 - That is an amazing story, Jason. Thanks for sharing it with other readers/viewers. An uncle on my wife's side - now deceased - was a medic in the Army in the Pacific and served on New Guinea amongst other places. He'd originally been a truck driver or something, but they needed medics and grabbed him and trained him up and that was that! He didn't volunteer or anything. Like a lot of the guys over there, he didn't talk too much about the war, but I think he made an exception in my case because he knew of my love of history and interest in WWII. All those years later, he still was amazed at how much it rained and how bad conditions were in those jungles. Another relative, also now deceased, was an infantryman in the Korean War, and saw heavy combat in 1950-1951, before being wounded and eventually being sent to Japan and ultimately home. I was privileged to help this gentleman farmer (that's what he did after getting home and recovering, was to farm) get his Purple Heart and some other decorations he had not received due to an army snafu back then. We talked about the human wave attacks the Chinese made, and Uncle Charlie, I'll call him, said that if not for his trusty Garand rifle, he would not have made it out of there alive. My father was USN in WWII and saw service in both the Atlantic and the Pacific. He was only seventeen when he joined in 1943, so he needed his parents' permission. His father said, OK, but only if you join the navy. I don't want you fighting in the trenches like the army did in WWI. Well, no one told 'em that there weren't trenches, but the Japanese had kamikazes! Being a medic is an extremely tough job. Your dad must have been a heck of a man. Another friend of mine is a veteran of combat in Vietnam, 101st A/B - a paratrooper. He told me one night years ago at a party that the medic from his platoon -who survived the war - never really got over the war. It followed him home, haunted him, after all the terrible things he had seen. The poor guy ended up taking his own life. In those days, they didn't understand combat fatigue/shell-shock or PTSD - whatever term you wish to use - the way they do now. There are not a whole lot of jobs in the Army or Marine Corps as dangerous as being a combat infantryman, but being a combat medic is one of them. Or can be. Thanks for writing....
@ Jason N. - Did you know that the M-1 Carbine was involved in a bit of largely forgotten military history on Okinawa? I am referring to the first combat use of infra-red night-sights by the U.S. military in wartime which happened in that battle, when Army and Marine infantry, armed with infra-red scoped M-1s, picked off Japanese infiltrators trying to sneak into our lines to cut the throats of sleeping GI's. Those old M-1 Carbines (which were called "M-3 Carbines" in that guise) were light in weight and had modest recoil and limited range, which is why they were picked for the first use of the devices. The night sight consisted of an infrared illuminator, a scope with detector, and a backpack power unit w/ batteries. It is estimated that around 30% of total Japanese combat KIAs on Okinawa were inflicted with this weapon system. About 150 such M-3 units were used. They later, in refined form, saw service in Korea and in Vietnam. In the latter conflict, generally atop an M-14 or an M-16.
@@GeorgiaBoy1961 I didn't know that. I've always wanted to here more about what my Dad and Uncle had went through. I didn't realize how little time I had left with them. So everybody needs to know that time is short. These old guys that fought these wars are not gonna be hear forever. There are stories of combat and all kinds of stuff that these guys went through that are not in the history books. All that knowledge disappearing every day. Before you know it, its gone along with them. I think about all of it at times and wonder what they could have told me, but now I'll never know. I should have sat down with them and talked their ears off. Back then I was young and life was flying by. I didn't take the time and now regret it. I still remember the day that I told my dad that I wanted to join the Air Force. He said that he didn't go through THREE YEARS, ELEVEN MONTHS AND SO MANY DAYS IN ARMY TO HAVE MY KIDS VOLENTEER TO GO THROUGH WHAT HE WENT THROUGH. I put that in capital letters because he was screaming at me. Well I didn't join the Air Force after that. I still think I should of, but I didn't, but at least I still have a little of them left in me. My eyes are tearing up right now. I will leave it at that.
In 1993 you got a .30 M1 Carbine for only 450,- DM in germany. Manufacted by Underwood in very good condition. I've restaured for 350,- DM three years later, the gun looks like it have leave the factory a week before. Great little gun! 👍
I heard these guys charge WAAAAAY to much for these used surplus guns. If they charged what they were really worth it be cool but from what I have heard/scene it’s a rip off…. Update: they are charging $1100 for those M1 Carbines 🤣 PASS! I’ll go buy a brand new sweet AR15 for $1200 in 556 or 308 🤯
You told me to use mineral spirits and I did. It was so easy. Just spray from a spray bottle, let it sit for 20 min and wipe off. Run a bunch of patches through the bore until clean and done.
If they want a reasonable price for that stuff it would be nice to have one of each! (At least!) Maybe 2-3 of some. I miss the Enfield I had. It had very little recoil with a potent cartridge and was pretty acurate mine was new old stock though I can't remember which one it was but cool stuff never the less. Great video sootch!
I love those M-1 carbines, but good luck finding ammo for them. I have one that I can't shoot - no 30 cal. fuel for the machine. I'd say other than the 9mm's and 7.62X39 shooters, ammo is tough to get for most of those firearms. *GOOD VIDEO!* "Thumbs up" from this Kentucky boy! 👍👍👍
It's funny how they pay a bulk price for the weapons but they go through them and charge extra for certain quality versions 🤔. Typical make a ton off of people who keep them in business !!
@@LuvBorderCollies I don't need to or want to. Stick to your little dogs. I'm sick of these people in the gun industry getting rich and acting like they have nothing to do with it.
I bought a 7.62x54 Mosin Nagant 1942 model a few years ago for 150 bucks. Came with a 2 foot spike bayonet all matching serial numbers. It's pretty good condition. Great machine work and blueing on it as it was built right before the Germans invaded. The 1943 models they had on hand looked like a 12 year old did the machine work...
2009 the price for a non import M1 Carbibe from the CMP was $419.00. Most likely these were loaned to the country by the USA under the condition when they became surplus to the country they would be returned to the Army. MAP programs data shows literally hundreds of thousands were loaned to various countries.
On the previous gun contest, Clint messaged me & said I won the HK Mp5. I gave him my initial contact information & then Clint asked me for naked pics of myself. I want the HK Mp5 so much that I sent him a collection of nude pics to help seal the deal. Imagine my surprise when I called Classic Firearms to confirm that I really won, & discovered that I was being scammed online. I am left with a very empty heart after losing my dream gun & exposing myself to a stranger. I don't know the real Clint, but I love any man that gives away guns. Maybe next time Kaydi will message me that I won!
I can almost tell the real deals are long gone. The fun thing about surplus firearms, was they were so inexpensive.
agree. Up til about 2008, surp was still a bit of a bargain.
AFter that...nope.
@@michaelkaiser1864 cheap surplus has been DEAD dead since 2014 with the ban on Russian imports
Yep the days of cheap surplus stuff is long gone
I bought my Mosin Nagant for $70. In 2007. Got a Russian sks for $300. That was a good deal.
Now they're not. I bought a AK47 years ago 1978 for. $125.00. Now I believe they go for over $500.00.
Back in the 50's there was a place called Academy Army Surplus in San Antonio. The back room was full of wooden racks full of surplus military rifles. I was just a kid but I remember my uncle buying a British .303 for $13.00.
I bought one in 1999 for $20. I'm glad that I hung on to it. The guy that I got it from had acquired it as part of a trade. He just assumed that the barrel was shot out, and it was junk. It was still caked in cosmoline.
I was so impatient that I wiped it down, and ran a brush down the barrel before I shot it. I completely missed a 5 gallon bucket at 15 yards. Lol I hit it twice out of 10 shots.
I was young and dumb, so I assumed that the guy was right. About 5 years later I was bored, and sick of the gun cabinet smelling like cosmoline. I broke it down, and cleaned it correctly. That thing turned out to be a pretty good shooter. The brass buttplate will give your shoulder the next day blues after several shots.
It is still a very capable tool.
I bought an enfield in 1993 for 89.99
@@russellpersinger3589 Do you remember what model? I tried to research mine a little bit. She has definitely been around the block. It was made at the old Towers Arsenal in 1917. If memory serves me, the barrels were press fitted. There is absolutely no way that my barrel is original. The stock has been knocked around plenty. There are several markings on the furniture, and the foregrip is worn from being held at the ready. I just find it hard to believe that it went through two World Wars, and still has decent rifling. It isn't great, but it won't just eat a .311 projectile at the muzzle either.
The action is still strong. The locking surfaces (kind of weird, compared to "Mauser" types) have definitely beat themselves home a bit. This is somewhat visible to the naked eye.
At some point, my brain finally caught up with my balls, and I had it checked out by reputable gunsmith. He mentioned that it had been redone at an arsenal at least once, but the wood furniture seems to be original.
He did mention that swapping my bolt with another rifle could make for a bad day. A gunsmith would not have done this unless EVERY single gun mattered.
He said that he wouldn't have believed that a professional would have done it that way, but the head space and chamber dimensions were just too right to be accidental.
Anyway, sorry for the rambling. Milsurps all have a story to tell. Sometimes you get more questions than answers. That is part of their intrigue.
About the early 90's a local sporting goods store advertised some Enfields for $69.00. By the time I got there they were out but gave me a raincheck. I dropped in a few weeks later, no Enfields but had '96 Swedish Mausers for which they honored the raincheck. Even better I love this cartridge. Picked up a Rem 700 in that caliber a few years later.
$120 in 2007
$280 in 2017
$375 in 2020
I remember seeing the M1 Carbine for sale “dirt cheap” in the back of Boys Life magazine. No permit necessary. 👍🏼
Then thanks to guys like him the price went up and up and up and up …. For guns that aren’t even that great they just have a cult following
Yup. I remember seeing an ad for an all new .44 Automag for a then staggering $200. The surplus rifles frequently found at a hardware store sticking out of a barrel full of them for almost nothing.. Those were the days pre 68.
@Dartgame 340 yep . Well I’m short at 4’3” but …. I don’t want to pay that much from r a pistol caliber carbine
How is possible buy a M 1 A sur plus carbine, and it can be by internet ?, and what about the price ?, that somebody send a link with the company owners that are sailing it in north America ! Thanks, and what about the germans luggers ?
@@panchopistola8298 I remember seeing SKS rifles going for $150 and 9130 Mosin Nagants for $99............ Long gone are the good old days 😐
I bought a Tisas 45 made in Turkey. It is a wonderful example of the 1911. The fit and finish is better than several Gold Cups I’ve owned!
The way the guns are stacked on top of each other makes one think they must have gotten them really cheap.
And the way the guys are handling them & bumping the guns into the others. "Hey! Don't scratch the paint!"
Yep. They're paying $50 a gun, and mark it up to $2000 just for you.
@@thystaff742 They ought to get some of them WW2 French guns. They are advertised to have never been shot and only dropped once.
Yep most likely at military surplus auction and I bet you they probably got them dirt cheap probably 1 to three grand a case. I'm glad I already have what I need. So I don't have to worry about price gouging assholes like these guys.
Probably from some 3rd world pacific rim nations police inventories. They probably got these guns for a couple hundred a piece. But for us? $1300
One day after this video was uploaded. “Come get your WWII surplus M1 Carbines at Classic Firearms!” I just checked their website and It’s SUPER AWESOME that they have “good” condition WWII vintage M1 Carbines for sale at $1300-$1500 a pop. Thanks for the informative video, I’m just not willing to pay what they are asking for a C&R piece along with the .75 cents a round to enjoy it.
God, you know what “good” means in the surplus world. I shudder at these prices
@@74nova36 sewer pipe with good wood
@@wirelessone2986 hell the wood is probably drier than the Ethiopian sun
@@74nova36 Oh dear...you could use it for kindling...man this is really a sad commentary
Guarantee they paid about $100 a piece for the M1's.
I am old, I remember garands for $29.95, carbines for $19.95, pretty much any surplus for 15-30 dollars….now they have just gotten stupid.
I remember working for $1.10 per hour. I could not afford $20 for a firearm and a dollar for a box of bullets.
@@callawayken650 That was back in the late 60’s early 70’s. Been there done that, lol
@@donaldmartin4980 Yep! Me too!
How fucking old are you??? 🙄😳
Typical Garand price circa 1975 was $300. If you could find one to even buy. I found one at the going price. What a worn out POS.
If it's coming through classic firearms its unaffordable! It is companies like this that help keep the prices higher.
No, it's the idiots who keep paying those prices who keep the prices higher.
Don't buy and wait for the prices to drop.
Or don’t buy and 10 years from now say I thought those were over priced at $xyz in 2022.
@@stephenharmon5155 Yeh, don't buy any 7.62x39 until the price goes back to $80 per thousand and FREE (lol) shipping. I remember one guy whining years ago when the price per thousand went over $90. LOL I guess he still has low round count SKS.
@@charlesmckinley29 No kidding. I swear 99% of the whiners have zero clue how US inflation is skyrocketing. Forget your sweet memories of "cheap" surplus.
I have a real difficult time spending over $1,000 for something that's thrown into a pile!
Yeah seriously. Surplus arms are supposed to be cheap!
Yes. Are they valuable or not? If they're not, why are they so expensive? If they are, why do you throw them into a pile? 🙄
You can get a “blem” PSA brand new never fired AR15s for $5-550. I just got a 11.5in barrel pistol. Definitely a better buy.
I hear ya. Unless one of those towards the bottom of the pile happens to be an M2. I'll gladly pay the "hand picked" fee for that one
THATS WHAT IM SAYING
Surplus: when you want antiquated technology at prices several times higher than what a modern, more capable rifle costs. The days of buying surplus to save a buck are over.
@@tlwisner Surplus used to be priced that anyone could afford it. It was so inexpensive then you could legitimately justify choosing surplus over new weapons simply because of how less expensive it was. Now you're paying significantly more to buy a surplus firearm than a modern, brand new firearm that's more capable.
@@tlwisner that's not true at all lmfao
@@LawlessNate yes but they aren’t making these rifles anymore so the supply is going down while demand is at least staying the same if not increasing; therefore, prices go up. It has nothing to do with the capability of the firearm. It is where it might have been.
All the talk about who's at fault and nobody has said the politicians who made importation so difficult.
Perhaps, but the level of workmanship on older weapons is often much higher than many modern firearms.
Wow I used to buy a lot of surplus rifles And hand gun's thank God I still have them. You can't do business with them like you use to. Classic kinda took the fun out of surplus. My buying days are over. Too expensive. But still like to look.
You could make some coin if you sold a few. But if they are your collection that you don't want to part with, that's that.
One of my favorites is a 7.65 Argentine cavalry carbine, 1909 Mauser. Full length stock, great little truck, horse, ATV gun.
Surplus firearms prices are so utterly ridiculous that it's keeping Hi Point relevant.
Bravo ya' gougers...
In a twist of fate, Hi-point themselves are actually the price gougers
There is no such thing as gouging. If the price is to high you don’t buy it. Supply and demand will correct the price. However if the demand is higher than supply the price will continue to rise. They haven’t made most of these guns in over 50 year so the supply is only decreasing.
@@charlesmckinley29 You sound suspiciously like a price gouger...🤔
@@everydaycarrymonkey2691 it’s basic economics. The supply of these guns is going down. Most haven’t been made in over 50 years. There are people willing and able to pay this price. The prices aren’t going down on military arms. There is no new supply and demand remains the same or increases relative to supply= higher prices. People talk about what they cost 40 years ago. What did a new car cost 40 years ago?
@@charlesmckinley29 I'll bet you're a lot of fun after a natural disaster...
1300$!!!! FOR A CARBINE, 2300$ for a luger, must be the gas that it took to ship them from next door but traveled across the world. No thanks...
Some dumbass will will buy them. I have some 30 carbine and I paid less than $200 for them
They can keep them,i will buy new.
Ikr? The jungle carbines are some fair prices all things considered. Beyond that, man, there was a time when picking up milsurp guns was so desirable because you got history + a better price. Yes Yes I know those days are long gone, but I just have to pass on most milsurps today. Saw another operation selling ex police beretta 92s for the same price as a new one- just whats the point. Another selling a truly beat to death cz75b for right at 500. Both those hardly qualify as milsurp but you get the idea. We're in a wonderful market economy though- if no one pays those prices they'll come down. For some of these classics I'll be taking the CMP route..
Leaves little room for the value to increase. Lots of room for them to depreciate.
Are those carbines seriously 1300?! They are beat to death!. If everyone bans together they will get upset that warehouse full of the arms that are supposed to be cheap are clogging up their space!
I remember buying an SKS 'new' Chinese import back in 1990 for $100 in the box. Sold it for same a couple years later. Yes, I regret selling that and every other gun I've ever sold, lol.
Remember paying $69.95 for SKS's with your pick of what was in the crate. Same for Mosin Nagants.
@@tonyhelms5904 Roses had Mosins M91-30 for $49.95 in their sporting department. Price was good for a couple of years. I think I bought 5.
Yea we would get them in the wood crate wrapped in cosmoline paper and for 69$ or 120$ for two SKS, or Makarov 9mm pistols Same price! Bought for friends, now have none! Crazy 1990's
I saw one at a gun show at about the same time for $65.00. Wish I would have bought several. They even had a pack of ammunition with them all sealed up.
I turned 18 in 1990. Mine cost 89$. Bought it’s replacement before Covid for 350$. Inflations and Shrinking guns supplies have made prices ridiculous.
I found my M1Carbine at the hardware store sticking out of a barrel and a box full of mags.
& Ammo. Can't believe people pay a $1,000 or more for them today!
1200 dollars for a shot out barrel and worn out action that has been maintained buy Ethiopian soldiers who can’t read and then stored in a open air warehouse with a dirt floor.
Mine were $100 each and ammo was $5 a box of 50.
I don’t think they will, I believe they’ve had those for a long time. That quality at that price is unrealistic.
I can't believe people pay $600 for a sks ,I got my first one for 49.99
Hell, a dog carbine will set you back a grand. Really collectable ones are 1500 and up.
Classic's markup is ridiculous but if someone pays their asking price that's on them!
No one is forced to buy from them. If your time is more important than the added cost of searching high and low for a bargain it is an acceptable trade off.
Also if people would stop paying the ridiculous price for surplus items then importers/distributors/vendors would be forced to lower the prices. Better to make some money than no money from something. But there are too many dunskys willing to pay these prices; thus they keep going up.
@@charlesmckinley29 when folks with more money than sense got into our game plus the federal idiocy of stopping imports THAT killed our hobby.
Classic has no bargains and their quality is frequently suspect.
@@michaelkaiser1864 sounds like there is an opportunity for a new importer then.
@@charlesmckinley29 lol. Cant get any hardly. This stuff? Likely south korean. Like the 1911s we're being screwed over on.
Let me guess, they will be asking premium prices for them.
@Dartgame 340 ...if any of them are even in stock. Their website was pretty disappointing.
$2400 for a Swiss Luger. Gtfo 🤣
I got my carbine from a Reenactor years ago. Rock-ola with an NPM stock. High wood, flip sight, no bayo lug. This guy did reenactment of everything from the Boer war to WW2. He owned some very rare stuff.
Many of these will be too expensive to shoot at today's ammo prices. If you can find the ammo at all. Add a high price for the used guns and it becomes an unreal proposition.
What a candy store for us military surplus enthusiasts! I'd love to go just look through this warehouse. Prices are keeping me from buying one of each.
Never had any luck from classic firearms.
Bad luck how?
@@JD-tn5lz you and me both brother, to the point of chicanery.
They screwed me. I will never buy from them again.
Screwed up the FFL and would not refund me.
I will never buy from them
@@rodyates4771 ouch but thanks
I avoid them. They are over priced, and had problems with parts from them.
I miss the days of $25 Nagant pistols $99 Brand new SKS's. Good stuff. 🇺🇸
Were those the days of gas at .50 cents a gallon too?
vaska exactly have you been to the grocery store lately?
@@vaska916 No 1994 Del Mar gun show San Diego. $25 Arsenal refurbished Nagant pistols And $99 brand new in the Box Chinese SKS. No gas was under 2 bucks.
@@123edwardzpad 1994 average US price per gallon was $1.15. The point is, even just a few years ago the gun prices were a lot cheaper. Then the whole BLM riots happened and everyone got scared so they increased demand and people were paying scalper price for 9mm the same as gold
@@123edwardzpad paid $325 for a 1939 Nagant 1985 revolver. With case and tools
not going to bother asking how much. Too pricy probably . I'll stick with Mosins for now. I don't remember the last time I bought anything from Classic.
1000, oh and add 200 bucks, and you can get one with no bayonet lug.
No e of these guns are worth having for the prices being ask for them. Maybe an SKS in good condition for $350-400, but other than that, just get an AR from PSA, or a SW M&P 15, and save the rest of your money for ammo.
Recently made some folks happy and sold all my surplus guns and ammo Amazing what this stuff is worth now. The prices are just crazy and it was time to pick that fruit. Kept a M98 and an 03A3 I just couldn't part with and will leave to my son. The only one I have small regret on is the K31, it was sweet.
in 1965 in Phoenix, AZ there was a surplus store on 16th ST south of Camelback RD named Yates Army and Navy Store. They had a wooden barrel with different military rifles, most stilled wrapped in paper . There were M-1 carbines for $15.00 you pick it. Amazing.
I went for a vacation trip up to the capital of California went to a surplus warehouse selling ww2 rifles found a pile of Johnson barrels receiver no stocks @$20.00 a shot! Years later saw there wood stocks for sale in a gun news paper never bought any
Carbine gonna cost you well over a Garand...
Unfortunately yes.
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I see what you did there.
Paid more for a m1 carbine paratrooper than my m1 garand
It's great to see a tour of the warehouse and surplus weapons. Police trade-in are very cool ...
Milsurp prices have gotten too high for my blood. Good luck to the rich fools who decide to pay these rates for whatever sight-unseen beater Classic pulls out of the bottom of the crate for them.
Insane prices! I guess I’ll go to high point and get something new with a forever warrantee’ at them prices I could get 3 new firearms!
If we still lived in a FREE country and our 2nd amendment rights were not heavily INFRINGED we would have access to crates of cheap surplus M16’s and M4 carbines.
Or if our "leaders" would stop supplying adversaries with that equipment...
What about AT4? LOL. Brand new one cost around 1800.
@Joe Motherfuckenblow Which counts as infringement. How dumb are you? My 6 year old can read. I'll rewrite it incase you're too dumb to look yourself. "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." What part of "shall not be infringed"? Do you not understand. It doesn't say anything about any type, style, or feeding mechanism. It says, in plain English that even a mentally disabled individual could understand, that our rights to bear arms are inalienable. If you can't handle or understand that, you might want to walk that ass down wash out lane with the rest of the liberal crybabies.
@Joe Motherfuckenblow shall not be infringed boot licker... shall not be infringed.
@Joe Motherfuckenblow you live under a rock or something?
I used to go to a lot of army surplus stores growing up. Picked up warm navy pea coats, army coats,jackets, pants, dungarees, chambray shirts etc. I understand when they make certain firearms in very small quantities it makes them very expensive on secondary market. However when they are produced in the millions or hundreds of thousands it doesn't justify the prices being so exorbitant. Guess time has passed me by. Would love one of each for collection, could never afford on low income.
For ridiculous prices I’m sure. Thanks, Classic.
I stopped buying from Classic years ago. Prices just went way to high for me.
Where do you buy surplus rifles then?
They are literally sold out of everything that I’d be interested in purchasing in the video 🤣 and they want $2,400 for a Swiss Luger. Give me a break. Smh.
Same here 🤦♂️
The 303 SmLes look thrashed and so dry. Those stocks have to be regularly oiled to keep from literally ruining the accuracy of their semi floated barrel/stock configuration.
These things look like popsicle sticks
New guns very nice, old guns full of fun. So many lovely items & just love the passion and difference between 4 guns all made at around the same time and you can actually pick one out that is unique and that what’s make them so cool. Go to the range and a couple of old guns always shooting, I would love to turn up with one of the unique weapons and feel smug as they will not own something this special. I’ve used one of the guns when I was younger and the weapon must of been about 70 years old and you could still hit the target more accurately then I was expecting
In 1989, my dad's cousin showed me an M1 Carbine that was made by IBM. I was amazed to learn that. He passed away so I have no idea what happened to it.
My first surplus was about 1964. I purchased 3 unissued condition1903 Springfields for $20.00 each and I still have 2 of them.
How much is 20 dollars for now a days? around 400 dollars?
@@IMFkores about 200 dollars
When Ben was there hawking the guns there were still good deals to be had. I miss old Ben...he was a hoot. I have bought a few firearms from them and they always did me square. Have not bought any from them in years, simply because there are no more "deals" in surplus firearms. About 5 years ago I bought a pristine Swiss K 31 with the case for a fair price. I went online and bought boxes of the GP 11 ammo for less than 40.00. I priced that ammo yesterday for $129.00 a box for 60 rounds. The good old days are over. You either have it or you will pay.
Sorry but the prices on classic frirearms have gone into full blown price gouging mode. I think I will wait till the market gets back to normal but classic firearms shouldn't be trying to rip people off like this.
Yeah. I think I'll wait til gold gets back to $30 an ounce and gas gets back to 29.9 cents/gal.
@@mauricemelton8430 big difference between things gradually going up from inflation and what is going on right now. This is price gouging. But hey if you disagree then feel free to spend $1300.00 on a carbine. While your at it spend 4 of 5 hundred dollars for a 1000 rounds of 9mm. I say no thanks I will wait till the market comes back to normal.
Wish I could get myself one of those M1 Garands or Carbines, or a Luger or K98. *Drool*
But I guess everyone else says Classic Firearms sucks. That's sad.
They always charge over the market value
@@lancecorporalveteran0621 That’s because they are a middle man. The importer was Inter Ordinance.
I've purchased 11 pistols and never had ant issues. Very good customer service.
I've bought from Classic Firearms during their black friday sale. When they do have good deals, they are indeed good deals. Like the other dude said customer service was pretty good. Just be careful of their surplus because I've heard mix bags of questionable quality control issues.
@@Arnuld15Governator The guns are indeed beat to hell and back. They still work for the most part but need a good bit of work if you want one restored. The Ethiopians got their moneys worth (and more) out of those guns. I know all of this because I was the guy who packed every single gun (including the enfields) in the crates to send to classic firearms. Not only did I pack them but I was the ONLY guy who did the packing. I personally inspected every gun we sent them.
K98 Mauser in 8mm, 1903 Springfield in 30-06, and Enfield in .303 British, my favorite bolt guns of the Great War, kicking myself for trading those rifles off and will never see the prices that I paid for them 40 years ago!
Good luck finding 303 ammo I remember buying those infields from roses for $49 those days are long gone
Roses closed out their SKS at $79 each.
@@billkea7224 But they had the bayonet lugs cut off round here.
@@paulmoss7940 They may have. This was in 1992, so my mind is a little foggy.
I wonder how many stores they had those at? My dad always told me he paid $30 at Roses for the 303s he has. I'm pretty sure it was $30. Could've been $49.
Bought some super cheap .303 Brit....1,000 rds with a Long Branch No.4 for less than $100. I spent weeks tumbling the ammo in a rock polisher to get most of the crap off the brass. It literally looked like a warehouse floor was broomed in a central African republic. I still have about 800 cartridges of that lot. Too many that don't fire, too many Clik-Bangs and too few that fire normally.
Plus the bullet diameters are very inconsistent going from .308 to .318/.320. I found some loose bullets in the crate and the cases they fell out of. I measured the bullets and that's when I discovered the erratic diameters. So yes, I measured all 1,000 of them that's how I learned how common the problem was.
The ammo was made at arsenals all around the British Commonwealth from 1940 to 45. It should've been machinegun ammo with those crappy bullets.
I have a Garand in excellent condition. I have used it for deer hunting. But now it's being kept in my safe. One AWESOME weapon
Watch Out, Bidens AG Garland Wants It and All of Our Others Guns Too !!!
-Goes to website to check prices
-Scoffs
-Leaves
Yep
I purchased through the NRA in i think, 1964. I paid $15 for my remington1911 and $15 for my inland m1 carbine. They arrived in a cardboard box. No padding, just sliding around in the box. I still have both.
Same here 1966 through the NRA 15$ 4.95 shipping mine is a Underwood 1943 on barrel.
girls rule , boys drool 😁
Why is everything at Classic Firearms always out of stock? Even the items shown in this video, which was posted only one hour ago?
When I was in Thailand with Marines in 1973 the Thais all had M-1 carbines...got one pointed at me sneaking back on Base from an Off Limits Vil visit...
Hard pass on Classic Firearms. Their grading and handpicking is poor for your average customer.
You know they piled all the best they have for this video. lol..
I can see that you are a patriot who hates communism, i am like you, the difference is that i am Brazilian, and you can't imagine how my people miss Donald Trump.
Guess where they got the M1 carbines?
@@joaopedrobaggio4475 How does Trump being gone affect you guys?
@@joaopedrobaggio4475 Seu presidente atual e chamado "O Trump Brasileiro" nao e? (Bolsonaro)
I have picked up a few through the years. I like the Mauser and Mosin , SKS very common cartridges. Just don't get to use as much as I like to. Urban sprawl has ruined some of my old gravel pits I used years ago.
Got any Stingers or Javelins? or a MiG 29 with low miles?
After Ukraine beats the crap put of Russia. We will get surplus Russia tanks
@@DD-su2qq Someone has been watching the news
$1200-$1500 for a carbine, naa I'm good. I saw them in an old gun shop lining an entire upper wall for $99 each. That's probably what these guys paid for them.
nope... foreign sources have the internet too
How long ago was that? They've been ~$1,000 pretty much everywhere for a while now...
Prices have changed a little since 1978
Where's that gun shop at
@@sammyprestwood3182 Mariana Florida, they're all gone now. They had hundreds of them. At $1200 you can buy a nice rifle making the surplus market pointless.
I find it interesting that classic STILL has M-1 carbines in stock. I've heard they were not in very good shape. Market showing that as well?
just shows you the insane amount of production they had back then, couldn't imagine todays production
Sadly no more cheap surplus.
We'd have more if they got rid of all those import bans.
supply, meet demand. Ww2 was very good to us. well, not at the time, but In terms of surplus 😂
These are way overpriced.
Because yokels are willing to pay 2-3x what these weapons are worth thus driving the prices higher and higher. If all or most people would refuse to pay these prices then sellers would be forced to lower the prices as to still make SOME money rather than no money.
50 years ago I bought a WWII surplus 8mm German Mouser. It was brand new still in its packaging and beautifully made. Ammo was cheep then and I really enjoyed shooting it. I sold it many years ago and I now regret it.
Can you ask them to get some surplus from the Taliban? Thanks 👍
The bolt-rifles, is wellused by hunters here in Norway. Some rifles even is the 98-K and the lee enfield for hunting deer and "small animals".. :)
For those of us who appreciate these finely made tools of war this is something of a treasure trove. What’s wrong with us right?
Awfully proud pricing for used surplus rifles - good luck.
As usual by the time these videos go up all that's left is a few Carano's, M1 Carbines and some pistols. What a tease.
lol, this reminds me when I was a young kid of the tv series "COMBAT" with Vic Morrow, Rick Jason, Little John, and Kirby. Love the Thompson and M1's.
Dang, those fully automatic bolt action military grenade launcher rifles are cool looking.
@@NeuKrofta it's part of the joke.
I got my model 1917 from a friend, he had bought 4 of these at a gun show back when it was possible to buy and not feel angry or ripped off. My Garand service rifle from CMP cost under $500 back in the 1990's. Now, impossible.
When I was a kid I remember a SS luger selling through Interarms. I wish I would have gotten it.
Yeah, I remember SIG AMTs selling for $1200. Now they're worth over 10 times that much!
I wish I could get my M14 that I used in VN ,, Marines 66-67,, always thought it would make the perfect deer rifle
M1 are cool but the supply of surplus .30 carbine has dried up, try and find any .30 cal ammo for less than .75 per round and classics prices are high!
.30 Carbine USGI ammo was drying up in the early 80's already.
Scotch, Saginaw Steering Gear Plant 2, was built to make 1919A4 30cal. machine gun. The government wanted 28 guns in 1942 for $667 each. SSG gave them 28,000 at $141 each. By the end of the war they were $54. I worked there in the 80's making truck gears.
God bless America and her industrial mite .
For the asking prices you can keep 'em...as they old-timers start dying off these no-longer-collectable pieces will be selling under $250.
That statement is most likely true. Recently the kids, who sit and play war video games, have been buying the shet out of SKS's and the like, go figure.
Don't think so. I've heard that several times in my life. First it was Colts then Winchesters, then WW2 stuff. Decent quality firearms that people are interested in will bridge generations. That's why Colts, Winchesters and such have never gone down in value. Don't think you're gonna get a honey pot unless you find a special rainbow.
Besides with inflation running like wildfire by the time the geezer collectors sell their collections the prices will waaay more than now.
I recently found the bill of sale where my grandfather had bought to M1 carbines one of which had a stock on it that had not even been finished it was still bare wood it would make you cry if you knew what he paid for them back then compared to what they are worth right now it is unreal
Enfield's and 49-56 could be had all night and day for well under $90 years ago. I used to get good Enfield ammo that shot 1 moa for under 10 cents a round. Cheap shooting fun. My first long gun.
When I was around 11 or 12 there were Envieds and Springfields in the Sears catalog for $35 or so. I should have had my Dad order a couple.
You're full of it haha 1 moa my ass cheeks
Sootch handles those surplus rifles like a blacksmith. No wonder the surplus I get from Classic has huge fresh gouges in the stocks.
That is called "hand select".
I've always wanted am M1 carbine. My uncle had one. He was island hopping in the Pacific during WW11. His last battle was on Okinawa. One time I was watching the History channel about the battle of Okinawa. He came over to visit. We were talking and all of a sudden he stopped and looked hard at the TV. Then he said that he had fought there. He said the Japanese would charge their lines for a long time. They would just keep shooting and shooting. He said he doesn't know how many Japanese he killed. He said that the worst thing he remembered from fighting in the Pacific was the smell of burnt flesh. He said that just watching the TV brought back the memory of the smell. He was a Marine fighting with a M1 Carbine. He lived next to a soy bean field in Louisiana south of Alexandria. One morning there was a big buck in the field he took his M1 opened the back door and shot that buck. He dropped him with one shot at about 300 yards with iron sights. He had the head mounted and hung it one wall in his living room. He told me after that, he said that it wasn't even a challenge with that shot. He never shot that rifle again. It brought back too many memories. I tried to get that M1 from him for years, but he would not let me have it. There was no way to get it from him. So I stopped trying. Then one day I went to his house and the rifle was not on the gun rack where it sat for years. I didn't even ask him what happened to it. I really wanted that rifle. I still don't know why he would not let me have that rifle for any deal. He lived well into his nineties. Then one day his daughter called and he had died. I will always miss him he was like a second dad to me. I still would like to know what happened to that rifle. I wish it was mine.
I know the feeling. My dad had a Winchester Model 70 that he won in a raffle in '62 he shot it deer hunting in Montana one time, I was 10 at the time and he never shot it again. When I was 65, he died from Parkinson's and he had gotten rid of the rifle and he had also disposed of his military footlocker and all his uniforms, flight suits, and medals. I have a senior command pilot wings of his, he flew P51's after Korean War in Japan but never talked much about the fighter planes he flew in twenty years in the Air Force.
Fathers, please talk to your kids. What you tell them will be in their memory of you after you are gone.
@@flukedogwalker3016 My dad also fought in WW2. He fought in France, Belgium, and Germany. He hardly ever talked about it. I didn't find out until after he died that he was a medic in the war. One time when he was drinking a few beers, I got him to talk about it. He told me when he was in Germany. They were fighting house to house in a town, a sniper was shooting guys left and right. When they got to the house the sniper was in the attic. Some of the guys were sticking their bayonets through the ceiling. The guy was screaming as blood was poring out the ceiling. When they pulled the guy out the ceiling, that's when they realized that it was a little boy maybe about 12 years old. My dad went outside and threw up after that. He was also declared KIA for four days. He got separated from the other guys. When he made it back to the other guys he was out of ammo and dragging his gun because he was so tired. I found this out when we went to visit one of his old army buddies one time. They were fighting in Germany, my dad blacked out from the shelling. when he came back to he was on a ship headed back to the U.S. He found out he was on a 30 day R&R then he was going to be shipped to the Pacific. I found out more from his discharge papers and other people what went on in the war. The only time you could get him to talk about it was when he was drinking. After he died in 1984 my mom was going threw some of his stuff. She came across his discharge papers. I looked at them that's when I found out he was a medic and that he received 2 medals, one was The Bronze Star and the other was something I never heard of before. Back then you couldn't just Google it. I'm going to have to dig up his discharge papers and see what that other medal was. He didn't have his medals anymore because he was married when the war started. So he sent his medals to her. When he got back to the U.S. he caught her with another guy. He asked her about his stuff. She had sold everything he owned, even his 2 medals. He divorced her and moved to New Orleans. He ended making his way down to where he lived out the rest of his life where I live now. I wish I had his medals. That was wrong what his ex-wife did. Those were not hers to sell. She should have went to jail for that.
@@jasonneucere8886 - That is an amazing story, Jason. Thanks for sharing it with other readers/viewers. An uncle on my wife's side - now deceased - was a medic in the Army in the Pacific and served on New Guinea amongst other places. He'd originally been a truck driver or something, but they needed medics and grabbed him and trained him up and that was that! He didn't volunteer or anything. Like a lot of the guys over there, he didn't talk too much about the war, but I think he made an exception in my case because he knew of my love of history and interest in WWII. All those years later, he still was amazed at how much it rained and how bad conditions were in those jungles.
Another relative, also now deceased, was an infantryman in the Korean War, and saw heavy combat in 1950-1951, before being wounded and eventually being sent to Japan and ultimately home. I was privileged to help this gentleman farmer (that's what he did after getting home and recovering, was to farm) get his Purple Heart and some other decorations he had not received due to an army snafu back then. We talked about the human wave attacks the Chinese made, and Uncle Charlie, I'll call him, said that if not for his trusty Garand rifle, he would not have made it out of there alive.
My father was USN in WWII and saw service in both the Atlantic and the Pacific. He was only seventeen when he joined in 1943, so he needed his parents' permission. His father said, OK, but only if you join the navy. I don't want you fighting in the trenches like the army did in WWI. Well, no one told 'em that there weren't trenches, but the Japanese had kamikazes!
Being a medic is an extremely tough job. Your dad must have been a heck of a man. Another friend of mine is a veteran of combat in Vietnam, 101st A/B - a paratrooper. He told me one night years ago at a party that the medic from his platoon -who survived the war - never really got over the war. It followed him home, haunted him, after all the terrible things he had seen. The poor guy ended up taking his own life. In those days, they didn't understand combat fatigue/shell-shock or PTSD - whatever term you wish to use - the way they do now.
There are not a whole lot of jobs in the Army or Marine Corps as dangerous as being a combat infantryman, but being a combat medic is one of them. Or can be.
Thanks for writing....
@ Jason N. - Did you know that the M-1 Carbine was involved in a bit of largely forgotten military history on Okinawa? I am referring to the first combat use of infra-red night-sights by the U.S. military in wartime which happened in that battle, when Army and Marine infantry, armed with infra-red scoped M-1s, picked off Japanese infiltrators trying to sneak into our lines to cut the throats of sleeping GI's. Those old M-1 Carbines (which were called "M-3 Carbines" in that guise) were light in weight and had modest recoil and limited range, which is why they were picked for the first use of the devices. The night sight consisted of an infrared illuminator, a scope with detector, and a backpack power unit w/ batteries. It is estimated that around 30% of total Japanese combat KIAs on Okinawa were inflicted with this weapon system. About 150 such M-3 units were used. They later, in refined form, saw service in Korea and in Vietnam. In the latter conflict, generally atop an M-14 or an M-16.
@@GeorgiaBoy1961 I didn't know that. I've always wanted to here more about what my Dad and Uncle had went through. I didn't realize how little time I had left with them. So everybody needs to know that time is short. These old guys that fought these wars are not gonna be hear forever. There are stories of combat and all kinds of stuff that these guys went through that are not in the history books. All that knowledge disappearing every day. Before you know it, its gone along with them. I think about all of it at times and wonder what they could have told me, but now I'll never know. I should have sat down with them and talked their ears off. Back then I was young and life was flying by. I didn't take the time and now regret it. I still remember the day that I told my dad that I wanted to join the Air Force. He said that he didn't go through THREE YEARS, ELEVEN MONTHS AND SO MANY DAYS IN ARMY TO HAVE MY KIDS VOLENTEER TO GO THROUGH WHAT HE WENT THROUGH. I put that in capital letters because he was screaming at me. Well I didn't join the Air Force after that. I still think I should of, but I didn't, but at least I still have a little of them left in me. My eyes are tearing up right now. I will leave it at that.
in england we are armed with very sharp spoons.
Wow, some cool stuff there! 👍🏻
In 1993 you got a .30 M1 Carbine for only 450,- DM in germany. Manufacted by Underwood in very good condition. I've restaured for 350,- DM three years later, the gun looks like it have leave the factory a week before.
Great little gun! 👍
I heard these guys charge WAAAAAY to much for these used surplus guns. If they charged what they were really worth it be cool but from what I have heard/scene it’s a rip off….
Update: they are charging $1100 for those M1 Carbines 🤣 PASS! I’ll go buy a brand new sweet AR15 for $1200 in 556 or 308 🤯
yea last good deal was the 109$ mosins
I remember packing those M1 carbines for them
I can't believe people pay the prices these sell for. They made them by the thousands it's not like they are rare
@@richardbranton2780 Yeah, I could never figure that out either. The garands and M1 carbines often go for more than a Nazi marked k98.
@@richardbranton2780 not by the thousands it's by the millions and millions.
You told me to use mineral spirits and I did. It was so easy. Just spray from a spray bottle, let it sit for 20 min and wipe off. Run a bunch of patches through the bore until clean and done.
If they want a reasonable price for that stuff it would be nice to have one of each! (At least!) Maybe 2-3 of some. I miss the Enfield I had. It had very little recoil with a potent cartridge and was pretty acurate mine was new old stock though I can't remember which one it was but cool stuff never the less. Great video sootch!
Are any of these weapons available for sale/ If so., please provide info on ordering
Geez, just when I had gotten over the desire for another firearm, here we are.
I love these old rifles
The PF's, RF's, and VC really liked the M-1, and M-2 carbines. And, BAR's!
Very nice looking bunch of used firearms. Thank you for sharing.
It's people like you that keep the prices so high...
Surplus firearms at a NOT surplus price. I don't buy anything off of classic firearms.
I love those M-1 carbines, but good luck finding ammo for them. I have one that I can't shoot - no 30 cal. fuel for the machine. I'd say other than the 9mm's and 7.62X39 shooters, ammo is tough to get for most of those firearms. *GOOD VIDEO!*
"Thumbs up" from this Kentucky boy! 👍👍👍
Love the old surplus rifles....great vid.
Thanks Ken!
I'll second that.
@@sootch00 I hope that let you do a review or two of each type!
Ok. ❤
It's funny how they pay a bulk price for the weapons but they go through them and charge extra for certain quality versions 🤔.
Typical make a ton off of people who keep them in business !!
Nothing stopping you from getting into the business.
@@LuvBorderCollies
I don't need to or want to.
Stick to your little dogs.
I'm sick of these people in the gun industry getting rich and acting like they have nothing to do with it.
My uncle used the m1 carbine in WWII. He said, it was the finest weapon he ever used. Said it was like an extension of your body, it was so "handy".😊
Need an SKS
I bought a 7.62x54 Mosin Nagant 1942 model a few years ago for 150 bucks. Came with a 2 foot spike bayonet all matching serial numbers. It's pretty good condition. Great machine work and blueing on it as it was built right before the Germans invaded. The 1943 models they had on hand looked like a 12 year old did the machine work...
Just wait a few months and tons of military surplus will come out Ukraine 🇺🇦!
Nah NATO and Joe will "accidentally" lose them next to a terrorist training center somewhere similar to what he did in Afghanistan
Regan stopped the importation of milsurp firearms years ago. We will see no more
@@alanbud5181 , it was Odumba which stopped military surplus from S. Korea
2009 the price for a non import M1 Carbibe from the CMP was $419.00. Most likely these were loaned to the country by the USA under the condition when they became surplus to the country they would be returned to the Army. MAP programs data shows literally hundreds of thousands were loaned to various countries.
At these prices,no thanks. Just buy new.
I love vintage guns specially M1 carbine & 1911❣️
On the previous gun contest, Clint messaged me & said I won the HK Mp5. I gave him my initial contact information & then Clint asked me for naked pics of myself. I want the HK Mp5 so much that I sent him a collection of nude pics to help seal the deal. Imagine my surprise when I called Classic Firearms to confirm that I really won, & discovered that I was being scammed online. I am left with a very empty heart after losing my dream gun & exposing myself to a stranger. I don't know the real Clint, but I love any man that gives away guns. Maybe next time Kaydi will message me that I won!
If I am going to buy an old M-1 Carbine for $1400, I rather buy a brand new FAL or AR with that money.
I would love to get an M-1 Carbine