The London 2050 Tube Map
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- Опубліковано 27 кві 2020
- In this short video, I'll explain some of the rail proposals that London will possibly construct based on the London 2050 Infrastructure Report which identifies projects to go ahead between 2015 and 2050.
Note that this is an extensive document and these rail schemes may or may not happen, especially since may of these aren't funded as of yet, but it will be interesting to see if any of these will ever happen by 2050.
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I don't know how it took me so long to watch this video, it's absolutely fascinating. A lot has changed in two years, it'll be interesting to see how the remaining schemes pan out.
nice to see you here
the real king has spoken
Im so excited for old oak common lane and phillip line
JAGO?
I JUST HOPE THEY ARE ALL AIR-CONDITIONED AT 2050
The uk average temperature by then will be 39 degrees so they fucking better be!
How exactly do you expect them to get air conditioning units onto tiny deep-level trains?
Whoever devises an effective, tidy AC system for trains will make a mint.
well they are now
@@battmarn how do you know it will be 39 degrees in 2050
South London desperately needs more tube stations. I'd like to see an extension of the Victoria Line southbound from Brixton up to Crystal Palace.
I've never understood why the line suddenly stops at Brixton. Totally ridiculous and unfair, and then the mayor is telling everyone to use public transport more. Why would you in this situation?
And yes the Bakerloo line needs to be extended from Elephant and Castle to Lewisham.
Ive been screaming this, even the big empty spacing in mitcham can be used as well as enhancements in west croydon station
Why stop there I’d continue to Selhurst Park & East Croydon too would be good
exactly what i was thinking, perhaps even to beckenham junction or croydon
Totally agree.
Hackney also needs more tube stations also.
meanwhile, Glasgow still has the single loop we started with 120 years ago... and the best they can commit to is upgrading to driverless trains.
Yeah it's a shame, I'd love to see it extended. However there are over 100 stations in Greater Glasgow, making it the biggest rail network in the UK besides London.
@@toniv77 Leeds with its lacklustre municipal leadership has nothing.
@@jamesbovington8218 Leeds has a decent length of rail mileage (albeit nothing to the northeast and through the city centre, but no frequency and little electrification. It could become one metro system if to invested. For this I am also including Bradford which to me, and based on passenger flows, is a suburb of Leeds.
@@richardwills-woodward5340 Don't tell Bradfordisns that but know what you mean.
Meanwhile on ScotRail suburban underground services
Now do it again but include the thameslink, southern, SE, SW and northern mainline on there... FOR THE CHAOS!
K I I I I I M I I I I G A A A A A A Y O O O O O O O W A A A A A
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!
Thameslink came true.
😂😂😂😂😂
oh god
This is getting out of hand. THERE HAS TO BE seperate maps for everything, otherwise the pocket map will be the size of a TV
Tube, DLR, trams, cable car. Everything else should be on a train map.
I highly doubt they'll still be printing that pocket map by 2050. Or if they will then it'll be massive afterthought for the clueless old tourists - It kinda already is, to be honest.
The problem here is this, from what I can see TfL insists on keeping the map the same ratio/size that it currently is, probably because of the pocket map, because it folds and fits nicely etc. TfL now can do one of three things, ditch the pocket map and enlarge the map, enlarge the map without worrying about the pocket map or have multiple pocket maps available
He's put lines which aren't the TUUUUUBE WOW London Overground and Elizabeth Line and SWR aren't part of the tube map he kinda DUMB
There needs to be seprarate maps for Crossrail and other lines
Plot twist: its 2050 and the central part of the Elizabeth line is yet to be completed 😂
“We’re determined to open as soon as possible.” Says an Elizabeth Line senior manager - looking like they’re about to break down crying - who is now three months from retirement having started back in 2010 on the Crossrail graduate scheme.
Meanwhile it is still expected that the Queen will open the line and no one is questioning how she’s still around. Prince George is 36 and recently eloped with a man, which caused Piers Morgan to die of a heart attack when he was informed.
And Prince Andrew will probably still be noncing about by then too
And South East London still won't have it's bakerloo line extension because they'll still be deciding the names of the Old Kent Road stations xD
lol
That will probably be the case considering the circumstances at the moment
Jay Foreman needs to come up with a new song when these finishes
XD
I’m not sure Jay Foreman will be alive in 2050
@@XJoe360 he's only about 30 surely?? i think 60 year old jay would be up to it.
@@XJoe360 He was born Oct 14 1984, making him 36 years old. He'll be about 66 in 2050.
So I‘m sitting here in Munich,Germany watching this - London simply has the most interesting public transport network.
Yes, but it doesn't have 36-platform Munchen Hbf and trains called "Bob". Also it is all very London-centric. Currently HS1 and HS2 may not link, even though they are only 2 miles away from each other.
@@UTubeThePatient well, London has several train stations, Munich has 3. BOB (Bayerische OberlandBahn) has become a part of BRB (Bayerische RegioBahn) recently, so no more BOB trains...And for the sake of completeness: I do not track Munich subway departures, my UK departure board is set to Kings Cross St. Pancras (or sometimes Stonehaven) ;-)
Yes and St Pancras is a beautiful station. Thanks for the update!
it`s creepy , expensive and filthy and by 2050 will be a no go zone
I remember the Munich one well - all the lines run straight through the centre side by side. Seems a huge waste of resource.
2500: Every railway in Britain is now part of the Tube
LMAO thats gold
i dont laugh at many comments, well done
@Syed Muhammad SNP will be winning the Scotland London Borough Council elections & will be trying to secede from Greater London
@Syed Muhammad you mean Great Britain?
By the time in 2500, Britain will no longer exist, Scotland and Wales will be independent countries and England may be split up.
London may became a city state. Cornwall will also became independent too.
The other scenario will be that there mat be wars like the third world war by 2500 and Britain will be ruined by wars. So the plan will be negative.
lol
One thing this video points out is the lack of infrastructure still planned for SE London. Major infrastructure is needed to support housing growth in North Greenwich, Lewisham, Bromley and Croydon. National Rail is already creaking at the seams and needs support from TfL services.
At one stage it was discussed the DLR could extend to Forest Hill which has gone no where, additionally the tram could extend to Crystal Palace which has not gone ahead.
I do believe Lewisham, Greenwich and Bromley councils need to express more interest in transport schemes as trams/DLR/Overground services could make a vast impact to their residents.
I’m not ignoring the proposal to extend the Bakerloo Line but this is a drop in the Ocean vs what is needed and in comparison to the rest of London.
This is spot on, I live in camberwell and to get a tube during rush hour I either need to sit on a crammed bus to either kennington or elephant or get a train from denmark hill to victoria or blackfriars in which I'm then paying even more because I'm getting a train into a zone 1 station first
The lack of support in south east london is abysmal, just nearby you've got the gentrification and redevelopment of peckham and peckham rye is not big enough or well served enough to support it, new builds popping up all over the place in dulwich, east dulwich/north again are not good enough
SouthEastern: Our trains are FULL we need help
Welcome to the North, where we never get any kind of funding for such things either. They'll often pass the laws to make it happen then decide nah, you can't have the money we earmarked for this. It's going on something else down here where the MP's have their second homes.
We're still paying in South London, seventy years after they were withdrawn and scrapped, for having the most efficient tramway network in the capital, which took business from the railways, and dissuaded the developers of Underground lines from extending into South London. Even when Crossrail/Elizabeth Line is finally opened, it won't be able to cope with demand.
@@TalesOfWar you don’t need funding! You have like 150 tube stations!
The overground network is already quite complex, and especially with the mentioned extensions, I think it would make sense to colour code the separate overground lines.
What with? They're nearly out of distinctive shades already.
@@Krzyszczynski Maybe combine some colours. Overground is currently orange with a white middle, so you could put different colours in the middle, just as an example.
@frederick richardson the question is: do you need to know that you're on the overground? The average day traveller doesn't care which mode of transport they use to get there. They just need to know which line on the tube map they need to get and which station they need to get out. Of course, the tube, the overground and everything else by TfL are different networks, but that isn't important to know for a traveller. For all they're concerned, they're on the on the orange tube line anyway.
@@Krzyszczynski Look at the tube and rail map
You're actually a genius
And the DLR can get fairly confusing as well, and thanks to having the same design it could also easily be given a new way of indicating which bit you're on.
Geoff, jago hazzard, ashley and techandtrains101 are officially the 4 horsemen of the tube
Jago too!
@@Sophiebryson510 k yes I'll change it
Very late here, but what about Jay Foreman?
@@Uromi He’s not really about tube anymore
Definitely!
You have missed something on the DLR, there is already a consultation going on to extend the DLR from galleons reach across the river to Abbey Wood. Creating 2 new stations in the Thamesmead area.
That would be good. And with the possible future extension of the Elizabeth Line to extend from Abbey Wood to Dartford, Ebbsfleet International, Gravesend, Strood and Rochester. As Thameslink operators their services to Rochester, Gillingham and Rainham.
And also the GOBLIN being extended to Abbey Wood, Plumstead or Belvedere
There are also planned extensions to forest hill and Victoria
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And Crossrail 3 or Thameslink 2 Maybe both
When I lived in Sutton It was said that there was a proposed Northern Line extension from Morden to Sutton - more or less along the current Southern/National rail lines. In fact, almost exactly along the route (as far as I can tell) of the tram line extension. Might even make sense to replace the current Southern Line to Epsom Downs with a Tube/tram instead if either of these extension ideas get the go ahead.
You know, it would actually make sense if the Battersea branch of the Northern Line was to be extended, not only to Clapham Junction, but also to East Putney and Wimbledon - thus restoring the historic route that also went that way [and left the East Putney to Wimbledon section of the District Line as well as its' stations in National Rail ownership, even though there were no through trains].
but people can walk from south wimbledon to wimbledon
All this, yet still nothing in Camberwell or the Walworth road. Don't worry about us, we'll just walk everywhere !!! 🚶🚶🚶
A plan which in China would take about a year to complete....
Yes but china has 16 times as many people as the uk and a fully upgreaded london system couldnt cope with even 10% of China's population
@@djscottdog1 The London system is much larger. The overland metro is far larger than the older Underground. No city in China has a metro rail mileage anywhere close to London. London's metro area handles over 23 million people.
Their largest metro has achieved 600 miles of length (with their trains working with catenary and third rails like our South London metro system. London's is 4 times the size of Shanghai's if measuring metro areas like for like. We owe the Victorians a lot!
Everything I have ever had from China has ceased to work within months at best...
Yes it’s amazing what can be achieved with complete disregard to health and safety, and using slave labour!
I'm American, only been to London once, yet here I am fascinated by this :0
The government has also invested heavily in Manchester to relieve travel congestion.....£400 for an extra bus stop outside Victoria station.
And a ground-breaking park bench in Leeds city center
Very good, but don't forget the extension of the Victoria Line 1. to Leytonstone and Whipp's Cross, and 2 northwards to Angel Road and Edmonton Green. Southwards to Herne Hill. In 2050 I'll only be 94 and hopefully still able to ride the tube.
This will never happen as the Victoria Line is already at capacity. Crossrail 3, 4 or 5 is more likely.
Given the fun of the Crossrail / Elizabeth Line / Purple Trains delays, add at least 5-25 years to all dates... 😈
And double the cost.
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I mean, what's the incentive to any of the contractors to deliver on time? Years of delays and going over budget keeps everyone in a job. Wouldn't be surprised if a bunch of ministers or lords were mates with the CEOs of the construction companies, if not board members themselves.
And add covid-20
when they finish building the Elizabeth line, the first line trains already will need renovate by age :)))
Thank you Ashley. Your videos are always very professional & informative, please keep up the good work!
What a very informative and well-illustrated video, many thanks for preparing and uploading, it's much appreciated.
This is a great video, I knew a video like this would appear sooner or later! Very informative
Very informative, but sadly as you put this video out tfl ended up in financial difficulty. I doubt they can build all of this by 2050 now, but it's good to know what they have in the pipeline so thanks again for posting.
Ambitious! We LOVE the Tube, and this is very informative!
Thank you Ashley, appreciate you taking the time to research and put all this together 👍🏼👍🏼
I see the plan to 'confuse the enemy' is coming along nicely :P
Angel Road station no longer exists. It was replaced in May last year by Meridian Water, built right next to it.
Edit: I've just seen Geoff Marshall's comment 😊
Great video! It was very informative and it’s got me excited for the new upgrades!
A very useful summary, thank you! A number of projects here that I was not aware of, and good to see potential connectivity improvements.
One thing that irritates me about a lot of TfL lines of all modes is where one line crosses another with no interchange between the lines. Just fixing that alone would provide more flexibility, and would make a lot of useful journeys easy that are now difficult and time-consuming, or impractical. This is especially so in the zones from Z3 up.
Don't get me started, the overground in particular. The lack of connection currently to TfL rail in the West, to the H&C near Kensington the Central on the Richmond Branch, and to the Met on the North London Lines. Then the Liverpool Street lines don't connect with any of the other Overground lines in the East without OSIs. To be fair I don't really get why they've been grouped into the Overground brand at all, they seem a really odd fit to me as not in any way orbital.
And then there's the multiple stations where one would suffice. Euston Square/Warren Street. Edgware Road/Edgware Road (just... Why?). Embankment/Charing Cross.
*The Lea Valley Lines
@@EuroDC1990 Euston Square and Euston are being merged as part of the HS2 extension.
Because of the design of the diagram, not all crossovers are in fact.
@@chrisst8922 Yes
Fantastic video. I would always suggest adding Thameslink services to any future tube maps you create, because they are essentially a tube service, or you could consider it Crossrail 0.
This is one of the best videos on UA-cam, honestly.
Great video buddy. Fantastic visual clarity as well thanks to the use of the tube map. Well done.
Yet no services going past lewisham? They have train lines going to Shenfield, Hampton Court but struggle to go past lewisham? No wonder black wall tunnel is always packed
its not showing the vast south east overground train network
@@reubenmitchell5269 Yes we are lucky with the southeastern network.
He does show the bakerloo line going through lewisham, plus you already have DLR to Canary Wharf and the city so with the bakerloo line to the west end you are very well connected. And of course let’s not forget south eastern railway!
honestly i feel for south londoners. the transport links in south are just so much worse than north of the river
@@riyadinho6795 well the railway network is MUCH larger than in north London but the trains aren’t great, slow and always stop at a major, cramped terminus. Then again it’s not the governments fault as the soil south of the river makes it very difficult to dig into.
Great stuff. Thanks. Extending the Northern Line beyond Battersea Power Station to Clapham Junction jumped out at me as a really good thing to do. Hopefully that can be brought forward in the programme. Crossrail 2 in the early 2030s strikes me as quite heroic - but good luck to them and we'll see.
TFL have stated that the extension of the northern line from Battersea Power Station to Clapham Junction will only happen when (if) Crossrail 2 is built. I assume this is to prevent massive overcrowding on the northern line as people change from National Rail Services at Clapham Junction onto the northern line to get into central London. When (if) Crossrail 2 is built then most people will chose to take that for cross London journeys from Clapham Junciton and therefore the demand on the northern line is less and the extension seems more sensible.
Cameron Allan So basically Clapham Junction will become a even more major hub then it is right nowv
@@Pano1 Yep. In an environmentally friendly world, the more trains and therefore fewer cars the better.
Cameron Allan Mhm, I live right near Clapham Junction and I fully support its growth, the noise isn’t even that loud anyways.
@@Pano1 Dont get your hopes up. It wasnt due to be finished until 2030s at earliest and that was before Corona
Excellent explanation - well articulated and graphically presented. I had to keep up with the new stations' names, but other than that it is a great video. More like this, please.
Very interesting - many thanks for doing this. It will be interesting to see how much of it happens. As someone who turns 70 next year, I just hope I'm around long enough to see some of it!
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We got violated
Bromley now has a tennis champion. Doesn’t need any more transport connections.
I see that other people have commented on this before. Great animation. Very interesting too, but yes, if you do ever remake it, it might be advisable to spellcheck all the stations. There are quite a few clangers here!
Love this futuristic video love to see more perhaps with actual dates of completed works
Excellent stuff. And very tidy cartographic and video editing work, too.
China can build another TFL in another city and have it completed by December 2020
16 times as many people and they are desperate so will work without propper pay or health and safety.
@@djscottdog1 just let prisoners build it then
Shut it
@@rabd9881 Sad thing is this is actually the type of thing that's normal in China
@@doggo7567 Indeed. and yet people will still praise China as the best country ever.
Really interesting. How did you do the animations? That always fascinates with these types of videos 😍
Thanks - great video!
A video I watch again and again and again
For the last overground extension there's a abandoned loop track connecting to Kew bridge station as well. This forms a triangle shape of track around the new Brentford stadium which will be very good for them.
TfL's proposed West London Orbital includes a station called Lionel Road. Modern Railways article including a very nice map: www.keymodernrailways.com/article/west-london-orbital-case-set-out
South london: am I a joke to you?
That's not fair. London is one city, from Edgware and Enfield the north all the way south to the Thames.
South London mostly uses their own railway systems like southwest railway service, which are overground
this is why north london is better than south london
(im a bit biased, born in camden)
@@imadeyoureadthis9124 I’ve experienced both and I personally think that south London is better by a country mile
@@EASY_Scenarios transport, landmarks,walthamstow, food
and most importantly...
brent cross shopping centre
(a joke if you cant tell)
Glad to be the 500th subscriber!
Love it!!!!!Keep up the excellent work!!
Finally! South London gets the transport it deserves!
Don’t understand why the river can’t be used as a more legitimate form of transport. High speed boats, what a great way to travel to work. Just look at all the ferries in NY
Well... there are ferries that go up and down the Thames, or river buses as they're called. Ferries are of course nowhere near as prevalent in London as they used to be as they're slower than the tube which already connects to the destinations that a ferry could connect to, the Thames is a river after all and it's quite a narrow one as well. The Thames is around 200m wide whereas the Hudson is 1km wide. Stockholm has quite a few ferries were it make sense, being an archipelago there's quite a few routes that would not make sense with any other mode.
Looking at the advertising for the Thames river bus i get the sense it's supposed to be something of a miniature cruise, something relaxing. Whereas the Stockholm commuter ferries are more about getting from A to B
Well the energy required to power a boat is substantial and increases exponentially with speed whereas with trains the majority of energy is spend accelerating because the steel wheels on tracks have low rolling resistance. So the slow cruise-like speed of the river boats is probably an economic choice. Also the Thameslink boats are a nice mode for tourists wanting to see the city and locals often seem to prefer the bus to the tube
This is really cool. Great work!
I absolutely love the animation !
I want to talk about Crossrail 2 (I'll refer to it as XR2)
The southern section of XR2 would not require any new track, since it would run alongside SWR trains. At Wimbledon, things start to become a problem. This map shows the line going directly to Balham, requiring new tracks to be built. However, there is a workaround to this, and it involves Clapham Junction. Instead of having the line run directly to Balham, we can run it to Clapham Jn and then use Southern tracks to go down to Balham. From there, a new line would be constructed linking the Southern track to SouthEastern tracks. From there, the line would follow SouthEastern's tracks into Victoria. A new tunnel would be constructed to Euston-King's Cross-St. Pancras (EKCSP from now on), since XR2 cannot use LU (London Underground) tracks. From EKCSP, a new section of track would be constructed to Angel, then onto GreaterAnglia (GA) tracks. XR2 would follow GA tracks to just short of Hackney Downs, where the branch to New Southgate would begin. From there, a new bit of track would be constructed to connect Dalston (a new station would need to be built?). From there, the line would merge back onto Overground tracks, running up to Seven Sisters. A new piece of track would be constructed linking Seven Sisters to Great Northern lines, heading via Turnpike Lane. Alternatively, you could cheat and build a curve of track connecting two of the Overground Lines, then adding a crescent to Turnpike Lane, then add another curve of track at Harringay station(s). This branch would then continue to follow Great Northern tracks to New Southgate.
Back on the branch of the line at Dalston, a new section of track would be constructed linking the Overground line (the diversion to Dalston would join the Overground Line) back onto the GreaterAnglia tracks, where the XR2 would run up to Tottenham Hale, Northumberland Park, Meridian Water, all the way to Broxbourne, with opportunities to run up to Hertford East or even to Stansted Airport.
Now, back down before Dalston, where the line would be on GA tracks, another branch would start, this time following GA tracks to Hackney Downs. From there, the line could merge onto Overground tracks, running to Stratford, then following more GA tracks up to Chelmsford and Southend as a bonus section. This could also link the two Crossrails together better.
Now, rolling stock. There are some existing types of stock that could be compatible with such a mess of electrification. I think all of the tracks which XR2 would run on have been electrified with a mixture of 25 kV overhead and 750V third rail. There are many rolling stock types that are compatible with both, such as the Desiro City trains used by ThamesLink and Great Northern, the 710 used on the London Overground, as well as the 378, 387, 377, some 313s, 395, as well as a few locomotives. All of these are compatible with the tracks which could be used. The only problem occurs after Angel, where the train is exposed to a variety of electrification methods, requiring frequent switching between the two.
And that's Crossrail 2 for you, as cheap as possible and constructing low amounts of track.
(edits were to "save" progress)
But can’t you just build the new bits underground? Like with XR1? I think the idea was that the existing bits (the beginning and end basically) would just reuse existing tracks above ground, but the centre section would go underground. Plus, digging tunnels isn’t actually too expensive - it’s the new stations which cost the most money, and XR2 hasn’t got any of them. So the plan is already in a pretty good shape (at least from my point of view)
@@saturnsandjupiters358 Well... you can't reuse the underground platforms. For the through-run sections on the National Rail network, you don't need more stations, but underground through the core section, you'll have a similar situation as XR1 where you need to construct new platforms which can be quite expensive.
I think you should talk about the possibility of a Thameslink 2 video. Its a proposal to run from East Croydon via Lewisham, Canary wharf and finished at Stratford.
Amazing video!!!!!!!!! My first ride on the tube was in 1976....there have been some changes since then. LOL
Thank you for so much good information about news and projects in London public passenger transports. Very interesting video. 👍👍👍
A flock of pigs flew past my window when I was watching this - wonder why??
thoughts: extending the H&C line down to barnes/roehampton
Brilliant, thank you. i'm 64 so probably wont be around in 2050 but hope to still see the differences in the up and coming future decade or two
Very interesting, more please.
I cannot believe how slow London is at building train lines. All of this should be manageable by 2030.
Budget...
@@Shungabali Nearly 3 trillion budget for the UK. Plus, it wouldn't really be changed by COVID, and it gives a reason to close every station for expansion and give some people still essential jobs.
Possibly though the only reason is the Green Belt, but it is safe to assume they could expand The Tube to entire Greater London and possibly beyond within 2050.
I guess they possibly won't manage it cause of government aspect, etc. But The Tube is one of the main transport methods, so I don't even see why they won't do a full upgrade of the trains with renovations and all of the tubes by 2040.
Upgrading causes major delays and we all know over 1 million people use the underground. It has to be slow upgrades so it doesn’t disrupt journeys.
3:26 I hope so, it's so stupid that no TfL services go to Kent, yet they stretch far out in almost all other directions. Why does it only finish at Abbey Wood. If Ebbsfleet is to be a true international hub, this link is needed.
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Very good & informative
As a northerner this is a bitter sweet video to be honest. It's cool all the new lines and all but I would like some investment up here even just to make the stations look less dilapidated
Completely Agree. Hopefully the electrification (HS3?) Will actually get done
Why does south London always get forgotten.
It’s very unlikely however that many of these plans will happen.
TFL is practically bankrupt and with reduced passenger numbers due to working from home, a lot of the north London extensions will be unnecessary.
Why no north west to north east line to break off f going the king's X
Because government’s corruption. More severe than in China
The Overground seriously needs to have different colours for its different lines.
Kinda getting to the point where the overground should just have an entirely separate map, honestly.
funny they’re actually pursuing that now
great stuff. fascinating
Looks good! The bit where you added in the crossrail 2 scheme, I thought jeeeez that's bigger than the current Manchester transport system! Lol
I want to see more videos like this
More will be coming!
Yes. What about other UK cities ?
They should re look at the proposals that were made to extend the Victoria line north to Leytonstone, Snaresbrook, Wanstead, South woodford or Woodford (vis a new station at Whipps Cross) to provide interchange with the central line.
This really needs to happen. Walthamstow and Leytonstone need to be linked. They are so close but so hard to get to unless you drive or get on the bus Whitchurch will take about 30 minutes minimum.
@@nggirl there already a overground link to Walthanstow from laytonstone high road it already takes you Walthanstow (Queens road which has a connection to the Victoria line via a 5 min walk to Walthanstow central station also it interchanges with the Victoria aswell at Blackhourse Road
I would personally extend it to South Woodford for interchange with the Central line to help reduce crowding on the line
I'm all for Crossrail extending to Tring! would make my life a lot easier! Great video :)
I saw the Battersea Power Station bit of the Northern Line map today and thought “I swear that wasn’t there before?”. Interesting!
London needs to link up its intercity rail stations with underground diversions - this will take a lot of pressure off the Tube - it will also make the national network much more efficient.
Department of Transport: How much lines do you want to construct for the London Underground?
UK Government: Yes
Great work, this must have taken ages!
Very good and very informative. Thank you.
How about expanding the Bakerloo line from Hayes to Biggin Hill and to a terminus at Westerham, a town south of the M25 with no direct rail access.
Great video thank you. I wonder if/ how Covid-19 will affect any of these plans?
No because it will be over by 2022 and then we will have 28 more years to get on our feet
Working from home (WFM) has already had an impact. At best people will only be in the office 2-3 days a week. I appreciate your comment was last year (2020).
Wonderful!
Wow i had no idea so much was planned. Mind. Blown.
Is the possible Overground extension from Hounslow to West Hampstead the same as the 'West London Orbital' ?
Joe90V yes
Got a feeling it will branch off the Hounslow loop at Kew junction and use the freight only section that links up with the north London line
Hiya Joe90V. I've written about West London Orbital here, with maps: reopen.org.uk/west-london-orbital/
What about splitting the Northern Line in 2. Has that idea died a death or still on the cards?
Very informative. Straight to the point. Interesting! What more can you ask for?
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400 subs?! Yeah, you deserve more.
Who else thinks the District Line should have an extension north of Ealing Broadway, maybe to Raynes Lane, West Ruislip or Uxbridge?
@M1CAE1 It would make sense but i mean Piccadilly and Metropolitan go there so there is kinda no need for the District to
@@jemimascooble That's a good point actually, I think a District Line extension is still needed, just now I think on the Eastern end. I don't know why I didn't think of that before considering that's where I'm from!
It used to go there before but it got cut down
Good to see south London finally getting an equal share of the cake
@Mark Griffin London is considerably more important than Birmingham, plus your tramway is getting lots of new stations and extensions in the next few years
@Mark Griffin have u even seen Scotland or Northern Ireland.... we’re just the lost once’s who get fuck all from the government
@@alexgruchet5512 Why do you feel London is more important than Birmingham ?
@@thefreedomguyuk it’s not a feeling, it’s a fact. London is way more famous and important in terms of culture, history and the UK’s economy. £700 billion of the UK’s 2.4 trillion GDP comes from London ALONE. It’s not that Birmingham is not important it is, and I think it’s the second or third largest city in the country but way more people come to London than Birmingham so it’s in constant need of renovation and change
@@alexgruchet5512 Has it occurred to you that London's disproportionate economic role in the UK might be related to the fact that it also sucks up a disproportionate amount of investment?
As others on here have pointed out, there are key train routes in the North that haven't even been electrified and are running on ancient stock, while London continues to get billions thrown at it. Meanwhile ordinary Londoners also suffer from this too as London property prices and cost of living are bonkers.
We need to be investing so the rest of the country can meet its potential, not continuing to act as though London is the only place that matters.
More videos like this please. Thanks
Love to see more tube line extensions
I’ll believe all this when (and if) I see it!
What a fantastic presentation! Two things come to mind. Firstly, you said at the beginning that the population of London would increase dramatically in the next 30 years or so but will there be enough places for people to live there by then? I suspect that more urban sprawl or alternatively more densely packed housing might put at least some people off living in London and its immediate environs. Secondly, with the Covid-19 pandemic having acted as a catalyst to increase working from home, will there be the demand for public transport in 2050?
There will always be demand for public transport, especially in a city as large as London and with the slow move away from cars for environmental reasons. London is unlikely to sprawl outwards due to the green belt around it which restricts development somewhat. Of course, the green belt could be slowly eroded (as I believe is already happening) but it'd be fairly suicidal for a gov't to eat into it significantly due to the aforementioned environmental concerns. Having grown up in London over the past 20 years I can say that new housing is getting significantly denser. I live in a brick semi-detached house which I couldn't possibly imagine being built nowadays. You see a lot of new modern flats being built, which can be seen especially around the Olympic park in Stratford. Not sure who can afford to live there though. I live near a crossrail station and I imagine that in 30 years the area will be completely gentrified and unrecognisable - even if working from home really takes off and becomes the default way to work, easy access to Central London is still a valuable and desirable thing and further public transport extensions bringing this to more people can only be a good thing.
Great interesting video.
Hi Geoof I love youre vids!
Nothing whatsoever for outer southeast london, as per usual!
Fantastic video and seriously well done. Sadly, I'm pessimistic about many of these improvements actually coming to fruition unless people start returning to work anytime soon as there won't be a London economy let alone any need for further lines to transport the dwindling number of commuters.
hello from the future. work from home revolution didn't really materialise, many people going back to offices, tube getting overcrowded again. crossrail still not open. regards.
That’s excellent mate
Brilliant video, very informative. Nice to see the line is expanding but not at the costs haha.