Musical Analysis/Reaction of JINJER - As I Boil Ice (WALLFLOWERS - 10/11)
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Thank you to everyone who took this journey with me. Your kind and encouraging words have blown me away! ❤️🤘
Thank you for giving us this great journey. It has immensely increased my appreciation for this album even more than before. I totally agree with you about bands that can write an album from start to finish. Creating that journey is an art that not every band can compose and Jinjer fuckin' nails it!
Thank you, this journey has been epic. I have enjoyed every second!
Such an amazing song..
What a journey it's been. Great album. Anybody saying it's not a great album doesn't know music. This might be their Master of Puppets.
one more time my friend!
Jinjer, Jinjer, Jinjer........................................
warm greetings from germany
Jinjer, Jinjer, Jinjer.........................
Is impossible not to see that you were always attracted by Jinjer, and if was not this album to make you a fan, i dont know what else was to be created/crafted for that to happen! 😅 🤣
You are an expert "connoisseur" of music and this album, delivers everything that a metal music lover wants and in your case (and probably other "musical pros" like you) even more, because Jinjer are doing something amazingly different and complex with only 4 elements.
Besides the different influences of other bands (obviously every band are influencied by others), is listenable that they are in a kind of "their own league", doing things that hardly we are expecting or already we heard before.
If i'm permitted to give you an humble advice, before doing the "album overview", if i were you, i would check the lyrics of each song because, even you understand (and analyse) fully their music, the "feelings" associated to each song, to each note, might be lost and the lyrics in this album are incredibly deep and well written and that deserves (a lot!) credit as well.
Again, congratulations and thank you very much for enlight us with your knowlege and for being the opposite of other "reaction makers".
Agreed. When I began reading the lyrics along with the songs, it really intensified things much more. And I realized how well they have been written. Great point.
Agree
This one is so unique, feels much different from all the others on the album. Such a great album ender too, considering mediator is kind of a bonus track
Aside from how great your breakdowns of things are, I think my favorite part about your reactions is how visibly you wear your enjoyment of musical elements. Great vid man!
We need an official video of this song. Amazing!
Tears of joy for your comprehensive analysis, connecting my appreciation to an album that feels like it gets me in a deep and personal way.
Getting older, and others may be haters, but this is becoming my favorite album.
Period.
And btw never considered myself a 'metal fan'
Thank you.
Nice work. This was such an enjoyable journey listening to this album with you and hearing your thoughts and observations. Thank you, John.
What an absolutely gorgeous song.
What a way to end a fantastic album ! I'm sad that it's over.
I heard this song live a couple of days ago and together with "I speak astronomy" I found that both these songs sounded even better on stage than the studio versions. Fantastic experience indeed.
I was really interested in your thoughts on this one and you didn’t disappoint. This is my favourite song on the album (although Wallflower comes close). I particularly like the ending, but the whole song is a satisfying mixture of complexity and dynamics. I’m looking forward to your overview of the album. Keep up the good work.
There were plenty of good opportunities for the use of a "juxtaposition" in there. You deprived us this time. This track is definitely becoming one of my favourites, as you say, it's uniquely Jinjer sounding
The first song to be finished musically was Vortex I believe (also the first one to have lyrics/vocals and the video later) and I also know that Mediator was supposed to be a bonus track.
Others have already proposed it, but again, it would be awesome if Jinjer could have some time to discuss the album with you, I bet you'd ask them a lot of stuff I'm really curious about and more than I haven't thought of.
But that's difficult, on one hand it's like each listener's interpretation of the song, what they take for themselves, on the other hand the music here is quite interesting and some really important bits may be missed and like it's all analysis/speculations for classical composers unless some accounts are left about what they wanted to achieve etc, and it would kinda suck to lose an opportunity to know the authors' perspective for such albums :(
Really interested in your opinion in terms of listening the entire album in one go, tbh to me it was kinda difficult the first tme, I felt like I started simply losing stuff, everything 'blurred' and I
had to re-listen each song separately after that XD
Its just an interpretation of mine ( and it might be far-fetched), but this album gives me the impression, that they tell us a story, about their musical journey up to this point in time. Anyway this is an album that i really love, and up to this day since the day of its release i listen to it every single day. Thank you so much John, for giving us your analysis on this album and i hope for more album analysis from other bands to.
I think when you get to some of their older music, you'll have a hard time believing it's the same band. (To a degree, it's not the same band.) But their potential to become what they are now is unmistakable. Evolution.
Really enjoyed your reactions to this album. Shame it's over. In fact I've dropped off 4 mins from the end so I'll always have something to go back to in emergencies. Great analysis. Helped me discover so much I couldn't articulate myself.
Great job with the album review. I enjoyed your analysis of where the songs were placed orderwise, it gave me a fresh perspective after many listens :) Any other subs vote for a "King of Everything" album review? JW has only heard Pisces and Astronomy..
It's Jinjer time and I have had a great time watching you do this. Peace from Stan the Alaskan.
Like I said in the beginning you explain things so the regular person can understand what you are talking about. It's made my playing improve greatly. And I thank you for that. Peace out from Alaska
Thank you for doing this series! You were able to bring things out in every song that multiplied a ton my appreciation for this album. I'm loving it more and more each listen!
Thank you, Robert. 🤘
@@JWSoundworks2 Seriously, I'd love to see you have a discussion with Roman, Eugene and Vlad about the composition process of this album. They say Vlad wrote 80% of the music, I'm curious which songs are in that 80%. Especially that riffing in Dead Hands. I'm guessing that one is Roman. It's like Pit of Consciousness on steroids! So damn good. Your observation about Tati's vocal melodies over those beautiful riffs just added to my appreciation.
I always listen "As I boil ice" and "Mediator" together. Emotional ending and mind blowing starting. Ideal conjunction. You'll understand my thought when you'll listen album without pausing. And so different repeating: "What is happiness? What is inner peace?". Painful calm vs angry confusion. Perfect!
So... After last "Wallflowers" reaction, my ranking.
Fav songs: "Call me a symbol", "As I boil ice", "Mediator", "Vortex", "Wallflower"
Good songs: "Colossus", "Pearls and swine", "Sleep of the righteous"
Not my cup of tea / I don't understand yet: "Disclosure!", "Copycat", "Dead hands feel no pain"
Thanks for jnjr analysis!
p.s. Jinjer surprise? Hmmm, I'm intrigued :)
same for me about 'As I Boil Ice' and 'Mediator', maybe it's just the repeating lyrics, but even without that connection, finishing with an intense track like that sounds cool to me.
And lyrically, 'As I Boil Ice' to me is like the basic, underlying emotion for almost all the songs on the album while 'Mediator' provides alsmost Alice Cooper-like theatrics (although obviously the songs are personal here) background of how it started and what's going on now and why. Like Alice Cooper had stuff clean up about Steven (or was it Stephen?) waking up and here it's like panning out and discussing how the real society, world disappoints naive children, forms people into what they are amidst all of this.
Also I really liked how they picked Pearls And Swine snippet for Wallflower video credits, well, maybe the music is just nice for the credits, but linking Pearls And Swine topic to becoming a Wallflower person is neat.
The band car bomb the song gratitude thank you for the work you do
You have been on enough dates with Jinjer and now its time to move in together. ;)
Great reaction!
As i boil ice is
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Perfection
The swing beat part makes me think of Diablo swing orchestra with a touch of Bungle
Gosh. Now I am sad. Because of the track and the end of this series. I sincerely hope you have considered doing another series with other artists. Maybe you would have to toss out the full album listen and pause often. Great series John. Really enjoyed it.
You know your shit! ;) Great reaction series! \m/
This is my favorite song on the album. The riff that you said resembled Mudvayne is probably my favorite riff on the entire album. That shit is so nasty and Tatiana's delivery of the lyrics is so groovy. She matches the dissonant chord at the end of the riff to give emphasis to the word "ice".
The transition after that riff into the slower parts is the part that sounded like Gojira to me. Specifically, the 3 descending notes that end the phrase. Don't know why. It just sounds like something they would do.
I really love Jinjer but my only complaint would be that they're not a band that you can introduce to just anyone. The average person is not going to understand this or even see any talent in it. You almost have to have a working knowledge of music theory to really appreciate it or just be naturally good at feeling the groove and hearing nuance in the music.
Then there are the people who get hung up on the growling/screaming. They'll say "I can't understand what they're saying". If that was a valid reason to dislike this genre then they should also dislike all music b/c they can't read sheet music or they don't know the specific notes an instrument is playing. I try to treat the vocals as another instrument instead of just a way to deliver lyrics.
I have a hard time deciding whether this song or one of the 3 singles is my favourite. Those 4 songs are my top tier. Next tier includes Dead Hands, Pearls & Swine, Disclosure.
I didn't like extreme vocals until I happened across the wonderful world of Pisces reactions just over a year ago. I don't know that I ever would have liked extreme vocals but for that happy accident, nor do I know that any song on this album could have serve as a point of entry into Jinjer world the way that Pisces did, not because this album isn't as good - on the contrary, it's fantastic - but because nothing on this album is as accessible to the uninitiated. Lucky for me, I did find my way here, & I do believe that Jinjer is now my favourite band!
Cheers!
🤘
Thanks for yet another interesting analysis!
Can't pick single favorite track from the album, almost in every case it's the one I'm listening to :( But I can see how this was supposed to be the title track for the album, imho conveys the main mood throughout the album (and each other song , except Colossus may, but I must be paying too much attention to the lyrics in my perception of things, kinda branches off to different emotions, but stemming from the same melancholy)
Awesome :). It was great watching your play through and break down of each song. Love this song and your analysis as well. Definitely look forward to more Jinjer breakdowns from you and intrigued on the hint of something else down the road. Very cool :)
Thank you, Tony! 🤘
Best song on this album
Favorite song on this album. You rock!
Great Analysis
Learning more about the band may actually enhance future reactions. Outstanding job as usual...
Great insight. Never enjoy reaction/review video as much as yours. For those who isn't a musician your input is super for this album. You picked the right band and Album to do this series. Hope some day in the future you can interview the band, As a mega music nerd and huge Fan of Jinjer it would be grrrejt!
So excited for the overview man I really like this song! You did a fantastic job covering this album thank you so much I have learned a lot from you and for that I am thankful
Ohh yeee
🔥🔥🔥🤘Awesome⚡Reveiw🤘🔥🔥🔥
It has a "Mr. Bungle" vibe to it
This one is in my top 3 from the album 🖤
11:03 this part reminds so much of Opeth's Ghost of Reveries album as well as the breakdown on Pisces that they do after the second chorus if I'm not mistaken. You can clearly hear the influence. Which either Tatiana or Vlad have said that Opeth is Eugene's favorite band. Pure genius from all of them, what a great band ffs. Love your reactions as always my dude, cheers!
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I couldn't resist buying that lol
@@JWSoundworks2 I need one! I would 100% wear to COSTCO!
The first time I listened to this album this was easily my favorite track, the more I’ve listened to it I think it’s my favorite jinjer song ever 🤘🏼🔥 great analysis as always! If they play this song when I see them live in November I can die happy 😂
We can all see laid bare that you get it and see the grand comedy in, and the skill of the tapestries that the weave . Pax Vobis good sir. Have you ever listened to Ningun Isu?
Just dropping a thanks to you for all of these.
It’s been mentioned in other vids you did for this album:
The A&P Reacts interview with Eugene would give a little insight on how a small part of how the album was made. Check it out after you do your final parting album thoughts.
Thank you for such an insightful album review, it's much appreciated how you point out the musically interesting features & do it with such joy. Please keep up with some more Jinjer reactions down the line, they have a great back catalogue & they've evolved their sound so much since the beginning. Macro album has some corkers & all but 1 has an official music video too so I'd go there next, being the closest to Wallflowers in time/style.
Also, I've thoroughly loved an album review. There are some great albums out there but could I request you consider a Gojira album. Fans will argue which is better (another band who have evolved) but my personal favourite is From Mars To Sirius, which is a concept album about Earth & how humans are treating it (they're environmentalists). It contains the best consecutive 3 songs on any album I've heard (Where Dragons Dwell - Heaviest Matter of the Universe - Flying Dragons), has elite drumming & riffs and I love their emotional album closer. Just a recommendation.
Love your work, keep it up.
"One More Word"
Can u check this out guys? Why i never heard this band? Bad marketing maybe? 🧐
I really enjoyed and i just found them, by accident! 😅
As I Boil Ice was going to be last song on the album. Its coda has long sustained notes. Left me waiting for the old school fade out. Also, could have been the album title. Mediator was going to be a bonus track, but was tacked on the end. Probably for marketing, Wallflowers makes a listener attracted to the ballad of the album. Great job catching time changes and haunting chords.
The album was originally going to be called As I Boil Ice and this was to be the title track. it got changed later. I think they were mulling over calling it Introvert but Tatiana thought that was too generic and straightforward so "someone" (they didn't say who) suggested Wallflower and they went with that instead. This was potentially before naming the song Wallflower too. I can't remember from the interview I read.
Lovely wind down on this track, and they you get smacked with Mediator
I know u said u were saying u plan to do a full album listen so I feel its important to let u know Mediator was originally supposed to be a bonus track but Tati's vocals made them decide to make it a single and put it on the album but they said it didn't fit anywhere so they put it at the end so think of it as a bonus track and As I Boil Ice as the last song
Didn’t notice the T-shirt till 20mins into the video
would love to see you react to the belgian band Brutus, Take the song War (live in gent)
Is there a Jinjer cover coming up? Is that what you hinted in your video?
20:04 there was a thought there, I seen't it! I wonder what it was...
It was more an editing out of a thoughtful silence that didn't lead to anything useful and had to be cut out. lol.
Professional! Thats all I come here for the reals I get to see them in phoenix last show of the tour I will see if it goes out with a bang or a Slow dive like me every friday after a 70 hour week running heavy Equipment. PS I am sixty five so I hope they bang! Dam Young Yaah Hoos Ive seen Zeppelin live so I compare all shows to that one LOL! Great job Bro!
I saw Jinjer's show yesterday. It was amazing! They really bang!!! Hope you"ll enjoy the show as we all did here in Moscow, Russia!
@@sergelopuhov3377 thank you Serge greatly appreciated. .
Their not a band that goes through the motions, when it's time to hit the stage 100% effort is given always. Their sonic integrity is So important to them!
You going to react to the new Twelve Foot Ninja song that features Tatiana?
Listen to Scarve - Asphyxiate (feat Fredrik Thordendal) for antiker example of swing time in djent!
Btw, since you're kinda done with the album, just FYI if you're interested there's this playlist on Jinjer's channel: ua-cam.com/video/q8fRzxLT2U8/v-deo.html reports of how they recorded the album (Vlad shows the setup they recorded drums in, and there's that home-made drum, which I suspect is related to the 'big' drums sounds in some songs, but I may be wrong) + some jokes from shahta lifta
Also if I'm not mistaken Dmitry Kim (Jinjer's previous drummer, King of Everything period) can be seen in the studio working on the drum recording
Hi.
Do you want a good one?
This one is amazing.
Make your opinion of this
Over and Out | Twelve Foot Ninja (feat. Tatiana
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You should watch Dimash Stranger.👍
this is my least not favorite song in this meh album
so this is your most non-disliked song is what you're saying?
@@metalgearshady7875 it was. now it's Sleep Of Righteuos.
Oh, more than two words. Masterful review! You should write for professional music magazines. ;)
@@ricross4158 thank you. I've tried hard