Musical Analysis/Reaction of JINJER - Pit Of Consciousness - Live in Kyiv
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Amen brother! Been playing for almost 30yrs and this band has changed my whole way of approaching music! Really inspired!!
Speaking of the mixing and how it’s 4 people in the band. It’s actually 5! They wholly consider their sound engineer as a member of the band.
I can see why they'd say that. Whoever is engineering this is someone you wouldn't want to let go!
That's a very good point as their sound engineer is a master!
As I understand it their main sound engineer is Dimitry Kim, the drummer just before Vlad.
There's two different sound people who are vital to their sound. Sasha is their live sound guy who goes wherever they go and they consider their "fifth" member because he's always on tour with them and has been with them for a long time. He mixes from the the floor at every venue with a tablet. You can see it in the Retrospection vid around the 60s mark. ua-cam.com/video/Wh2yOebcENM/v-deo.html. Dmitry Kim (their former drummer) mixes their live stuff in post back in Kiev. They both had their hands on this one.
Live and in the studio, they have to be the clearest sounding band in metal. Especially their last two studio releases. I'm an old 80s metal head, and if I can't make out the riffs or hear the bass, it's useless to me!
The drummer is a classically trained musician and multi-instrumentalist. There are videos of him (Vlad) on the Jinjer’s UA-cam and Instagram playing cover versions of songs on guitar and a movement from a Rachmaninoff piece on piano. His approach to drumming is very musical. The band really came together when he joined as drummer, IMO.
I checked him out playing a Rachmaninoff Prelude (one I've also learnt before - so know it well) and I think you're correct regarding his piano ability influencing the musicality of his drumming style. He's one of the most exciting metal drummers I've heard in years.
They were great before Vlad, now they are just in their own tier for me.
@@tackle47 Oh, for sure. They’ve been great for awhile, and would have continued to be great if Yevhen Mantulin had not suffered that crippling injury. Vlad just brings something different - a groove or swing to the approach that isn’t straight ahead metalcore like the earlier stuff. It’s been a blast to watch their evolution and rise.
Beat me to it, I was going to suggest Vlad on the piano. It's a bit of a left turn, but it just kind of cements how amazing of a musician that Vlad is
Not only is his Rachmaninoff quite good, the fact he plays it wearing a Sepultura shirt is legendary
So we can go next Jinjer -Homeback, right? :D
o_O
Is he ready for the #PeakSyncopation that is "Home Back"?! LOL
Joking aside tho, this is one of very few YT reactors who may be able to absorb "Home Back" on first listen. :)
Hmm, maybe he could watch Judgement (& Punishment) the Oficial video clip, not the One take. Them, check Home Back.
As a layman I detest 'lipsyncing" but when you have 3 musicians and a single vocalist delay, echo and backing tracks are almost a must do, but must be done perfectly and Jinjer always hits the mark, just enough and in the right places.
dangit, i cant stop watching JINJER reaction videos, I have a problem!!! I got tickets to 3 of their upcoming shows in the US, I hope that that nothing else happens that cancels live shows.
We definitely need home back next in the jinjer saga
It's a pretty personal song about mental health struggles and Tati has had some struggles with that. "In my head, someone else, setting snares, for my soul." Powerful lyrics and she puts it all out there.
Must listen through again with the lyrics up. Cheers.
Yes! This is the video I was hoping for. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Another great live performance is Who's Gonna Be the One. The sound mix is insane in that one.
Yeah, I can second that. Live from Atlas.
Yes!
What is incomprehensible to me is the fact that this band isn't topping all the charts in every genre, winning Grammys in multiple categories, headlining every festival everywhere. Where is the love? Imo, this is The Best Band on Earth at This Point in Time.
The mixing duties for this show was done by Max Morton - the same guy that mixed the records.
The guy is a genius when it comes to setting a soundscape and giving instruments and vocals room to breathe.
Can't wait until you hear "On The Top live in Kiev" and "Retrospection live in Melbourn" or the official video to "Retrospection". Keep them coming. Enjoy your take on thsm.
The official video for "Retrospection", surely- it's a great peak at behind-the-scenes touring shenanigans! :)
Yes! You absolutely took the words from my keyboard! Two top favourites and those live versions are a blast!!
Roman did "shred" a bit in one of their older songs, called A Plus Or A Minus. There's a playthrough video on Jinjer's YT channel, if you want to check it out. His picking-hand work in that song is a joy to watch. : )
About the live backing tracks: as a musician myself who's part of a band that doesn't have a human rhythm section, it's no big deal because they'll always be synced with the programmed bass and drums but for a band with a human rhythm section like Jinjer, the most challenging part is to have a perfect timing so that they don't "fall" out of place. In their case it's Vlad who starts the backing tracks at the beginning of the songs that have them and I have to say that even with so much going on rhythmically, the backing tracks always fall perfectly in place. : )
Really great reaction and Analysis, you really should have wayyy more Subs, im sure they'll be coming.
If this performance blew you away i can't wait till you react to 'Who is Gonna Be the One'' Live, far and away the best of the official ''live'' videos they've released IMO.
I'll add it to the list, Wayne. Thanks for the kind words, mate! 👍😁
this band is one of the best bands I've ever heard, reagardless of the different genres!!!
I've been also a musician for over 40 years and I've been listening to music in different genres for decades, but Jinjer.................................
They are world class musicians, Tati's lyrics are on top noge and, and, and, and .................
Maybe next "JINJER - On The Top (Live in Kiev)" | Napalm Records from the same concert or "JINJER - Home Back (Official Video 4K) Napalm Records" or............................................................................
greetings from germany and stay safe & many thanx for your reaction
Thank you, man! It's on the list 👌😊
Feel free to do the official video too, if you want. It's really good, and I actually struggled for a long time to decide between the two, when it comes to suggestions for reactors (as the majority do just one or the other). One little detail I especially love about this song, is that the tempo change happens right when she sings about "In my head head, someone else - Setting snares - For my soul". It just feels so fitting, literally but also metaphorically when we think about mental illnesses, especially depression.
I think the doubled vocal lines are added in post though, as part of the high quality live video mix. Same for the audio levels of the instruments or her vocals, as the high quality ones are most likely recorded straight from the PA, and then mixed afterwards. The Kiev show was originally planned to become a live DVD, but this was also their first time doing their own lighting, which backfired hard because they couldn't really see anything and ended up making a lot of mistakes.
Heh, you haven't even begun to go down the rabbit hole of all the places Jinjer pulls references from. You heard a bit of rap (and, arguably, djent) in Teacher, Teacher, but they pull in everything from lounge jazz to reggae, not to mention just about every sub-genre of metal, yet somehow even while every song has its own life and feel, they're always still unmistakably Jinjer. I totally agree with your assessment that they're one of the best bands I've ever heard in my life, if not simply _the_ best, full-stop.
Yes, you can hear even more insane virtuosity from Dream Theater, or more rhythmic virtuosity from Meshugga, or more pounding riffs from Metallica, or arguably even a bit more song-before-ego from Disturbed, but... Jinjer is the total package. They do _everything_ extremely well without overdoing any of it, and I just adore them! Especially everything with Vlad in it is just nuts levels of incredible.
Their previous drummer, Dmitriy Kim, had really solid metal chops, but nothing like Vlad's level of sophistication and paradoxically enormous minimalism. The starkest difference between them to me is in their blast beats. Dmitriy's were very tight, very fast, very unified, perfectly in the pocket... and kinda boring. Vlad's are _magical._ They manage to drag behind the beat in this incredible, compelling way that many times has had me _swearing_ he actually lost a beat, but then you go back and listen to it, and no... it's perfect, it's just not in a hurry, in a way that, for me at least, I just _cannot_ not focus in on and get excited about. Normally I find blast beats to be pretty bland, but man does Vlad bring them whole new levels of life and meaning!
Same with Tati. I'm normally not a big fan of growling/screaming. I love me some distortion-David Draiman comes to mind-but like, the guy in Meshugga drives me absolutely nuts. He sounds like the angriest Kermit the Frog of all time. But Tatiana? Holy shit has she opened me up to what growls and screams can add to music when they're done _that freaking well!_
Fun bit of trivia... nobody in Jinjer now is a founding member. So none of them actually have any idea what the name means or signifies.
Also, you don't seem to be much of a gear-head, but check out Roman's guitar in most recent performances (pretty much anything under Napalm) and Eugene's signature headless bass. Those are just _gorgeous_ instruments, custom-made for each of them by different master luthiers. Eugene also does a walkthrough of how he makes his bass tone in one video on their channel that's really cool... and he also does a lot of bass playthroughs. They're just nuts! The intricacy of those bass parts is totally next-level and a big part of why they sound as _humongous_ as they do despite being a four-piece.
I do sometimes wish they'd bring on another guitarist so that the rhythm guitar parts present in a ton of their songs could be played live on stage, but... at the same time, a large part of their magic is their chemistry together. They're _so_ locked in with each other, and I'm sure they worry that a fifth member could throw that vibe off.
Alright, so first off, people claiming no backing tracks are just crazy. You can literally _see_ what I assume is protools running on Vlad's laptop, and there are many places where it's obvious that there are backing tracks for vocal doubling, vocal harmony, rhythm guitar, ambient sounds like that keyboard hit with huge reverb during the break after... what I guess I'd call the bridge. So you're right about that. What matters is that they are actually performing _live,_ which they definitely are (you can hear little issues here and there once you know the studio track really well, and even mic feedback and the like), and how it _sounds,_ which is freaking amazing!
From what I understand, their writing style is that first Roman, Eugene, and (more recently) Vlad write the instrumental parts, then Tatiana writes the vocals and lyrics. She sometimes writes in Russian or Ukrainian and then translates it to English (except for two songs in which she does sing in Russian); other times she writes directly in English.
Also, they _do_ have bad performances, which is further proof that it's true live. They just... don't push those ones online, heh. If you want to see a bad performance, check out Pisces from Wacken, the same concert that Perennial is from. It's _terrible!_ Tatiana is way out of tune, the timing isn't as tight as usual... I mean, it's still recognizable and enjoyable, but it's not their usual level of perfection. There's also a performance of I Speak Astronomy (I think in Kiev) where I'm pretty sure Tati's monitors completely failed and she totally lost the pitch of the song, out by half an octave or more, and even lost rhythm at times. (When you do I Speak Astronomy, that's definitely one for the official video, by the way. It's one of the coolest music videos I've ever seen!)
Anyway, the fact that they aren't _always_ perfect makes their full live concert at Melbourne even more incredible to me, as it's a full concert filmed live, and it's freaking _perfect_ from start to finish.
i know you haven't touched a lot on the vocals, let alone the lyrics, however, the virtuosity of their songwriting includes how the lyrics and instrumentals tie so well to each other thematically. i.e., right after she sings "in my head...someone else...setting snares for my soul", the beat changes a different dissonant chord comes into play and she goes into her growl. there are a lot of dimensions to their composition that are fun to pick apart the more you listen
Welcome to the Jinjer army! They're good aren't they? :)
I'd all but given up on listening to newer music, as it all just seemed like recycled, generic, bland stuff.
Jinjer is the first band in 20 years that's gotten me excited about music again. Can't wait for the new album to come out.
Thanks, Shifty! I get what you're saying, dude. They definitely have something extra special going on!
I agree I am a huge RUSH fan and have not found any band of it's equal until I heard jinjer. JINJER is my modern warriors
Don't forget frequency and tone it's kinda crazy how good they sonically sound. They're the whole package. In my opinion the next huge metal act. Move over Zeppelin and Metallica Jinjer King of everything 😉 see what I did there 😂😂. You'll figure it out I hope. Peace from Stan the Alaskan
Masterclass of musicianship AND sound engineering, perfect for an 80's metalhead with a MechE degree!!!!!!!!!!!! Jinjer has changed my world.
Great reaction and so true about layering vocals or using backing click tracks or anything else. It is an acceptable technique to give more "thickness" to the live performance and as you said in no way detracts from what the whole band are doing. Indeed it adds to the performance by allowing a band, especially a four piece like Jinjer to have an amazing live sound.
Reverb, sound delay etc are all absolutely fine, now autotune that is a different matter!
100 per cent with you on this, Max!
Even auto tune if with the right sound is not totally the developer, but agree overall it sucks.
@@JWSoundworks2 I'd be curious if it is added in post as the vocal layer in Perennial at Wacken seemed to be since they didn't appear to be part of the bootleg, or if they are backing tracks like the Russian harmonies are in bootlegs of Retrospection (though omitted frome the live in Melbourne version). There is a really good bootleg of PoC from Berlin uploaded by George M but I don't have the ear to distinguish such subtleties.
@@j.f.fisher5318 very good point, man. Hard to know exactly without audience footage from the same gig, I guess.
Doesn't the backing track add another level of difficulty with regards to timing and precision? It enhances a great performance but it could just as well amplify any mistakes.
Ok,now you HAVE GOT to do their song "On the Top" live in Kiev. Same show, and one HELL of a performance!
My favorite band, hands down.
I'm with you on the drummer part, I hate to put any one of them up front, cause they're so good individually, I only want to point out how good, consistent, and interesting his drumming is. Not that I don't appreciate the old drummer, he was killing it also, just see "I speak astronomy" or "Sit, stay rollover".
WOW DUDE THAT WAS AWESOME AND BEYOND INTENSE THAT WAS AN AMAZING GREAT REACTION VIDEO YOUR A PROFESSIONAL AT IT ANYWAYS THAT WAS DEFINITELY MY FAVORITE SONG BY THEM IT'S SO GOOD ANYWAYS ARE YOU SAVED ? HAVE YOU ACCEPT JESUS AS YOUR LORD AND SAVIOR AND RECEIVE ETERNAL LIFE I COULDN'T IMAGINE HEAVEN WITHOUT YOU YOU HAVE A GOD GIVING TALENT ON THE UA-cam KEEP UP WITH THE GOOD WORK
Ok, and this is just from a layman's pov, you've got to draw the line between musicians who use effects in live performances to cover their flaws vs the ones who enrich the experience for the audience. Simple as that.
Totally agree. The places where I've mainly seen it with my own eyes, used to deceive people, was in the wedding band circuit (which I played in for several years as a keyboardist). I actually witnessed someone from a band on stage pretending to play the keyboard. He wasn't even miming the correct notes/chords or playing in time with the backing tracks he was using. It was painful to witness. I know it's quite common these days for professional bands to use partial studio takes and other things to enhance their sound live. But their core live performance is still a 100 percent, unadulterated live performance. Therefore I'm totally on-board with additional sonic enhancements being used under these circumstances.
Hey JW its because you are knowledgeable in what your talking about! Your content is very informative, and you are one of my favorites to watch! Keep it up!
Also reacting to Jinjer helps! They are one of the best!!!
Thank you, dude! 😎🤘
Great reaction, always a joy to hear you on the more technical side of music, especially with this sick band! A lot of people say it and I second it: It´s been years since a metal act blew me away like this, truly special band indeed! For more live greatness (also sound mixing greatness) the fan favourite older banger "Who´s Gonna Be The One" live is a must! And the more recent "Retrospection" live in Melbourne is everything that makes Jinjer packed in an amazing track. Keep up the great vids.
This track is basically, SOAD (aerials) meets The Mars Volta meets, well, who can growl like Tati?
Listened few of their interviews, as for vocals Ella Fitzgerald, No doubt said as inspirations, but as whole Opeth.... (metal() and so on...
For your own enjoyment, do watch the official video - it is a work of art. Some of the projected images are taken from the video.
There is a video of the drummer playing classical piano you might want to see
I agree with your comments 100%... what a band!!! Insane 🤘
I would like you to listen to the song "I speak astronomy" ... it has many musical nuances to describe and get your opinion on it.
Saludos desde Argentina 🇦🇷
Not sure how I missed this one, but better 5 months late than never.
This is one of my favorite Jinjer songs, and I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Vlad is an amazing drummer, even though the previous drummer was also very good, I think Vlad added a little more "groove" to the band with his style, it was definitely a great idea to choose him.
Thanks for analyzing the song, great job as always.
Thanks Liz! 🤘
Jinjer is the bar & Tatiana is the Queen 👏
jinjer are new era....new league a new summit....
Stillness stuns. Wish I'd run
Creeped away to the light.
In my head someone else
Setting snares
For my soul.
In the darkest place
What was once named consciousness
I'm a miniature,
I'm a sketch forfeiting outlines.
...this song is heavy in *so* many ways.
Retrospective Official video next, amazingly tight.
the half hour growl at the end
By the way, thank you for preserving the music video’s aspect ratio! Much appreciated!
"who is gonna be the one" Live. "Retrospection" Live ect. Love it. Love the band.
Love watching your reactions to Jinjer. They are the best band I’ve ever heard. They’ve truly changed my life.
You're my favourite reaction channel. I don't mind the pauses because you're giving good information. Also, I have been listening to music of all kinds (except country and brass bands) for almost 60 years and Jinjer are my favourite band ever.
Really appreciate that, David. Thank you!
The drummer is amazing. Like most Pisces was my first introduction and I was like "OK drummer, I see you" lol he started as a piano player and also plays guitar. He's the only member that really has a deep music theory knowledge and I can hear quite a shift since he joined. The previous drummer was very good but Vlad clearly has a vast musical genre of knowledge.
First of all, awesome channel, and great respect for your breakdowns and analyses. Second of all, Jinjer are from another dimension. Third of all, between the buried and me is a must, particularly ants of the sky, extremophile elite, or swim to the moon.
Who is gonna be the one (live) is a banger, and judgement and punishment has a great genre switch up to it
On the top from this concert in Kiev is good as well.
Another band that’s brand new called sion- the song is the blade. Outstanding
Contrats to the 2k subs, well deserved and more to come. 👍
Thank you! 🤘
definitly one of my favorite slightly underrated in the reaction world but such a blast
You'e right! 😊
Your videos are like a free music lesson. I love it!
Another great reaction! It is awesome to see you enjoy it so much. 🤘🏼
Thanks Eithan!
with you OP.
Likewise I’m 50 years old and have been listening to music all my life across different genres and Jinjer raised the bar in way Slipknot did and what Tom MacDonald and NF are doing in rap / hip hop. It’s a combination of music and lyrics and the delivery. Keep up the good work 🤘🤘🤘
I'm 55 and grew up on Rush, Iron Maiden, Metallica & Slayer. Wanted nothing to do with growling vocals and no-leads guitar, but shortly after discovering Jinjer a few months ago, I could hardly believe I was prepared to say this is the best band I've ever heard. Really enjoying your Jinjer journey. Take your time going through these amazing songs, you can't pick a bad one! Thanks for doing this!
#RhythmicVirtuosity - Spot-on. :)
It's the composition that grabbed me. This is the first, & so far only, band with extreme vocals whose music I find compelling.... & so much so that they have become my favourite current band! :)
My dad detested the really heavy stuff (death/black metal etc.) that I used to blast when I was a teenager but Opeth were the first band he was able to get past the screaming/growling and became as a big a fan of them as I was. I think his love for prog rock of the 70s etc. made that much more possible for him. I remember hearing Still Life coming from the living room one morning when getting up for school and thinking wtf!?
@@JWSoundworks2 I still remember laughing at my dad the time he stole my Pastor of Muppets cassette for his car.... & then tried to deny it, saying I must have left it in the car (there's *no way* I left that thing anywhere inadvertently)!!
'Twas indeed an interesting musical step for a Dionne Warwick fan. LOL :)
Lol, priceless! Who'd have thought that the gateway drug to Metallica was Dionne Warwick?! 😂
I recommend checking out Tool, Pneuma, be sure to specifically check out the live drum cam footage... you will see why he is called the octopus... or goat... of the drum world 😎
Hello from Cape Cod MA USA. Really enjoying your reviews on Jinjer. I found them about 6 months ago myself. How I never heard of them before is beyond me. Amazing band. If you want to check out some really good older stuff with the drummer before Vlad, who was also insane by the way. He was a little more thrashy in a good way. Two songs you should take a look at. Sit Stay Roll Over Official. It's about 8 songs in one, at a high rate of speed that still baffles me after dozens of listens. The other is Just Another Official video. Heavy as Hell with a chorus that makes me smile every time. Roman, the guitarist, seems to be really featured as well. Have fun, and keep em coming. I'll be watching. Thanks.
It's on the list, Steve, thanks! Greetings Cape Cod from Northern Ireland. 🤘
Rhiannon Giddens singing. La Vie En Rose playing acoustic guitar...
She is American/ SouthCarolinian/ Opera/ Country/ Folk / Celtic singer/ Playing Guitar/ banjo/ piano/ Piamo/ mouth organ ... a beautiful phenom
What a sick song! The chorus reminds me slightly of the System of a Down song 'Aerials'.
Great catch! Believe it or not, I actually thought the same thing but it wasn't until I was editing this video together! 🤘
You two aren't the first ones to make that comparison. :)
I don't know System of a Down much, so I didn't notice, but each time I hear it it reminds me a lot of The Mars Volta (the sound and riffs of the guitar has the same flow and harmony changes).
@@LudoTechWorld good shout on TMV, dude. Omar Rodriguez Lopez is an incredibly unique guitarist. Is there a better example of someone using crazy tripped-out effects in as creative a way as him!? Remember seeing them tear the Jools Holland show up with One Armed Scissor (back in the days of ATDI) and I was like "wow, I need more of this!"
Wow! I love SOAD and now that you mentioned I can really hear the resemblance.
Dude, this is the 3rd time in the last 2 weeks that I watch all your reaction to Jinjer. The progress you made from not knowing them in Pisces to saying this is maybe the best band I've heard in my entire life after the fourth song really reminds me of my journey discovering them too. It's really wholesome seeing you on video take this journey.
I guess what I'm getting at is, it's been almost 3 weeks man, hit us with one or two Jinjer reactions already 🤣
I love how you analyze and dissect things as I am far from a musician and you sharing your knowledge is making me appreciate them even more.
I watched your other reactions on your channel, lately the 2 Spiritbox ones, but can't wait for the next Jinjer.
Cheers
Thanks man. I am going to do some filming this weekend, hopefully. My life is full on atm with work and looking after my daughter that I needed a bit of a break the last few weeks. The last couple of reactions I put up were filmed a couple of weeks back and I only just got round to editing them this week. 👍😊
@@JWSoundworks2 no pressure man, was just stating my appreciation of your content and my eagerness to see new vids. I understand that it must be lots of work and family comes first. All the best to you and your daughter.
@@drunk-idiot Oh no I get you dude! It's so nice to get people saying they're enjoying my content. Just wish I could find time to film even more. Got a couple of reactions filmed today so keep an eye out! Thanks man! 🙂🙏
...yeah man these guys...a place for everything and everything in its place .....but so natural and un-mechanical...love the experienced ear you put on this...like everyone says home back music video.....its next level in the understandable chaos department...be great to get your take on it.....thanks...peace...
Cheers dude. Appreciate it. 🤘
Another great reaction JW! Thanks.
I don't get the whole tiff about backing tracks. If anything, they are as much a risk as anything else.....if a singers pitch and/or timing is a little off, you can hear that very succinctly when contrasted against the backing tracks. I can only recall a handful of very brief moments where that has happened with Tatiana. It's always very brief and she is able to correct her pitch immediately. She's very aware of her pitch, tone and has excellent control of it. I agree that backing tracks add a nice, extra layer of depth and harmony when used. Cheers.
You HAVE to react to "who is gonna be the one".
Every time I see this video or the one for On The Top from the same show I think: "This show looks and sounds way better than the Melbourne show that they used for their live album. Why didn't they use this for that?" It baffles me. Although I think I heard somewhere that some technical (sound? lights?) problems with the Kyiv show are the reason we haven't seen any other videos from it, so who knows? I don't dislike the Melbourne show, but I don't recall thinking any of the performances on it are as definitive as the 2 clips we've seen from Kyiv.
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Subbed!!!!!
Another great reaction. Might I suggest after Jinjer Home Back you react to Infected Rain Orphan Soul. It is a female fronted band by Napalm Records
Thanks Steve. Haven't heard of Infected Rain before. Will add them to the long list!
Thanks for right Kyiv spelling from Ukraine!
Would love to hear your thoughts on Unleash the Archer - Awakening. They have a great full band playthrough video so you can see the talent of every member!
I've been watching several of your videos now and had to click subscribe. :) You provide some great insights and are clearly genuine in your reactions! (Ok a bit of confirmation bias from me maybe esp. regarding Jinjer lol...) Keep up the good work.
But if I may make a suggestion, please change the way you title videos back to putting the band/song name first. Now I have to hover over the thumbnail to see which band it is since it's at the end of the title and hidden from view. I guess I should've commented this on the newest video but hopefully you read this anyway. :)
Oh, and you should check out Leprous! (I hope I'm not making an a** off myself and you've already done them haha.)
I'd like to point out the existence of harmonizer tech, and it eliminates the need for backing vocals when you want to create vocal harmonies. I can't say that they use it for sure, but I think they might have a bit of that and stereo/chorus on the vocals sometimes. Vocalists can use effects just like guitarists. Her deep growl and singing voice are obviously organic, but those choice times when you hear a subtle "second voice" or a layer of voices can be triggered pretty easily if someone has hands on the board, since she's obviously not using pedals or an onstage rig. In the studio, it's pretty common, but I've also seen bands use it live when they have their own sound tech.
Do On The Top from the same show!
Another great reaction! There's something more satisfying about reactions by other musicians. You pick up on things that also excite me about these songs and a few things I haven yet. Super refreshing.
If you haven't already listened to Cotopaxi by the Mars Volta, I think it would make for an interesting reaction. I suspect you'll appreciate the musicianship and composition.
Thank you, dude. Big Mars Volta fan. Cotopaxi is amazing! Great live performance of them in Abbey Road (I think) performing it, I'm sure you know! Lifelong fan of those guys since I heard Relationship Of Command by ATDI back in the day!
@@JWSoundworks2 Oh man, At the Drive In is such a throwback! I'll have to have a nostalgic music weekend.
And that Abbey Road session is exactly the video I was thinking of. I think it's been taken down from UA-cam for some reason though.
Anyway, not at all a surprised you're a fan. Keep the reactions coming!
Loving the Jinjer videos, keep 'em coming! You mentioned in your last Jinjer reaction/analysis that you're a big Opeth fan, would love to hear you apply yourself to Heir Apparent from the Garden of the Titans live video from Red Rocks. Seems like they slowed it down...fucken heavy...
Cheers dude. Haven't watched that version yet! 🤘
If you just wanna see the drummer try Under the Dome drum playthrough
I just saw them live in Boston (epic show!), and I noticed they are getting away from the backing tracks (not 100% but far less), and I think it sounded better. Still effects to fill it out. Their playing live is brutally good. Makes me want to put away my bass.... or go pick it up....
Another brilliant reaction...
I'm giving my age away but I think of Vlad as the Ringo Starr of metal. They both play a low kit, both are somewhat understated in their technique while having impeccable timing and tempo. The Beatles producer George Martin did not think much of Ringo at first but later admitted in all the live or studio performances he never heard Ringo make a mistake. Masters of the snare and cymbals...
I think Ringo was an easy target due to the songwriting geniuses he shared his band with. But he was clearly a fundamental piece of the band. Always performing his role perfectly. Not every drummer needs to play like Buddy Rich to be good. 😊🥁
@@JWSoundworks2 He was also left handed and played a right handed kit making some common techniques awkward if not impossible. Like Vlad he had his own unique style. The Beatles were one of the most popular bands in England but when Ringo joined them they became superstars. It seems Vlad likewise filled a missing piece of the puzzle with Jinjer enjoying more and more recognition since Vlad joining the band. I'm hoping their upcoming album takes Jinjer to the next level...
Appreciated your comments about the sound mixing... They are all savant-level musicians, but the mixing is better than 90% of what you hear in a live setting from other bands. Also, it's clear that they play to session over their in-ears and fill with ambience and backing vocals, but we all know that's just a nice-to-have. They would still sound fine without it.
to me the recorded version is very close to this live video.... i think the drums pop more live
Me: How many guitars do you really need?
JW: Yes.
😂😂😂 It's an illness, man.
@@JWSoundworks2 Tell me about it haha!
She records all of the vocals. She can't sing them all live. Their tickets are more affordable because they are paying less people... They are amazing live, at least the 2x I have seen in person.
Roman actually can kinda shred a bit with some sweeps, check out his guitar playthrough of A Plus or A Minus ua-cam.com/video/N2Qc74salwE/v-deo.html
Next song : retrospection
The backing track police need to give it a rest. There's a big difference between using a track instead of signing and using a backing track instead of paying 2 or 3 people to sing plus travel expenses. It just doesn't make sense.
TBH I like the fact that you don't just concentrate on Tatiana most of the time like 90% of every other Jinjer reaction video. Yeah she's a great singer and lyricist but really it's the rest of the band that grabbed my attention more once I got over the depth of her growls.
Thanks. I'm always drawn to the instrumentation primarily when I listen to music - vocals don't usually grab me until a second or third listens. Don't know why, I've always been like that!
Time for oldscool jinjer reaction.. Autlander from 2014 failor color.. No hoard of value luric Video.. Until the end.. Sisscors.. Exposed as a liar.. 😅 🇺🇦 😎
3 guitars why not tour live
how come no one suggests Devin Townsend? likes if you want to see him reacting to kingdom
I'm a big Devin Townsend fan, man. Have heard most of his music by now. Saw him live a few years ago too and he was incredible! Been following his work since his "Infinity" album came out! 🙂
@@JWSoundworks2 ok so how about avatar, you know them? if not they are incredible as well.
@@odedeliyahu1756 don't know them, man. Where do you suggest I start?
@@JWSoundworks2 most first reactions are to Bloody Angel, but hail the apocalypse and let it burn are excellent first reactions aswell.
They have so many good tracks and their style is just outstanding.
Im sure you will dive deep after hearing 2-3 songs
Yeah I don't get the backing track being offensive to people. It's not like they are pretending to play. It's actually kinda hard to play well with backing tracks. I've seen it live where the backing tracks are out of sync or even off key from the band. Sounds terrible. If it all goes smoothly it's great.
Can't listen to country or gospel? If I could only subscribe all over again!
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its not a controversial thing, most bands use some sort of backing, ask anyone who works behind the stage, and if bands claim otherwise they are full of shite.
The "controversial" comment refers to many musicians I've worked with that harbour an old school approach to what a rock band should be. And that they're somehow "cheating" by using backing tracks and click tracks. Opinions that seem to mostly be held by people over 40, to be fair. Not an opinion I hold, but I have discussed the point with producers, engineers and musicians and as opinions on it (whether it should be used - not to whether it's being used or not) within the industry tend to vary widely I would consider it a somewhat controversial topic.
*The correct spelling and pronunciation would be KYIV, not Kiev.* #KyivNotKiev #CorrectUA
_It would be great if you could fix your video’s title / description. :-)_
I'm happy to add Kyiv to the description 😊. Growing up in the UK we were taught in school it was Kiev. So please forgive me. It seems that on Wikipedia, Kiev is still an accepted spelling of the capital. I even seen that Jinjer's record label also use the English spelling. If you don't mind I will still include it in the description as it will help my viewers find my video (for those who are still using the Anglicised spelling). 🤘
@@JWSoundworks2 , Wikipedia is done by everyday people and not by some official organization, so I wouldn’t trust it blindly.
Also what do you mean by “Anglicised spelling”? ))
The U.S. officials in charge of an international database on geographic names,
as well as the Tenth United Nations Conference on Standardization of Geographical Names
have change the official spelling of the Ukrainian capital to the Ukrainian-language derived “Kyiv”,
replacing the russian-rooted “Kiev.” #CorrectUA
The Associated Press, the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Post, the Telegraph, Reuters, FOX, CNN, BBC, Al Jazeera, Daily Mail, The New York Times, The Guardian, Euronews, Deutsche Welle and many others have also adopted “Kyiv” as their official spelling. #KyivNotKiev
Last but not least... check spelling at the largest international airports, on airplane tickets, GoogleMaps, Apple iOS weather app, FaceBook and etc.
@@_FireHeart I meant it was how we were taught in school using English as a first language. Have you written to Napalm Records (Jinjer's label) requesting the same treatment? I notice they have not corrected it on their official video.
@@_FireHeart settle down lol
@@JWSoundworks2 , in the past medical students were also taught that bloodletting cures illness and disease.))
Just because something was thought to be true years ago, doesn’t make it automatically true today.