I felt so bad for Marlee. They pushed a 19 year old to pursue a relationship with an online creep with a criminal record and bunch of mental illnesses. So vile these two! They should be in jail. This show made me so mad ☹️
I have been in this cult for 2 years and knew most of these people but only from online communication. It has been two hell of years but what most hurt is the time after that and how long it took to piece myself together again. Thank you Netflix and everyone envolved to publish this! The world needs to know whats really happening in there and how evil these two people truly are. This is releaving and healing to know the truth is finally spreaded
Finding love doesn’t require joining a cult, changing your gender and draining your bank account. If you believe in Soulmates, then love yourself and let love find you.
The fact that these people were willing to pay over 2000 dollars for a ten week course with the promise of having their soulmate (and love is just a chemical reaction in the brain) at the end of that, for me that's proof these people were willing to ignore that red flag and many more to come. Plenty of public info on cults nowadays. In my opinion, I've you've joined one it's on you. People can know better, they should know better.
@@JustLetTerenceExplainItThat’s what I said!!! Has humanity lost its common sense? I saw those 2 years ago in a UA-cam video and I could see how full of ego they are and moved on. Why do people pay hard earned money for this??
@@JustLetTerenceExplainIt A lot of people come from traumatic, abusive or otherwise dysfunctional backgrounds. This means that sadly abuse and dysfunction feels normal so they don't recognise them as red flags until either things get do bad they can't unsee it, or they go through a recovery process usually with a therapist. Cults use love bombing, gaslighting, threats, isolation and other psychological techniques to lure and brainwash previously victimised people.
As an Indian my blood boils to see this.. These filthy cons use all the new agey symbolism which are actually cultural appropriation from the profound spiritual practices of Hinduism and India. They then use this to deceive innocent people to join a cult. Such a shame!
Jesus Himself litereally said that so if nothing else is a red flag, that should be the one! Matthew 24: 4Jesus answered, “See to it that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in My name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. 6You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. These things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8All these are the beginning of birth pains.
@@Roswell33 Somebody else already answered below but yeah, if you look up what defines a cult in the modern definition, Jesus doesn't qualify because 1) people were free to come and go---John 6:66 states that a lot of people left Jesus after one of His sermons---2) He had the majority of His meetings in public which He points out when He's arrested. (Luke 22:52-53)
As a Mother who's daughter has been in this cult for years(they got her at 16 years old which should be illegal to start with. She is now 25)I am hoping this documentary shows the real grief and desperation of the families who are suffering. As grateful as I am to Prime Video and all involved, it did not portray this Cult as evil and disgusting as it is. Time to go to jail Jeffrey and Megan but I do feel for their darling little daughter.
They are predators. After netlfix i bet people will be planted in his scam and more will come to light. Praying to GOD ( NOT JEFF) ur baby comes home. Keep youre head up. I just watched the doc today and theres no way this isnt going viral. Netflix did a great job showing what a narcissist jeff is.
It’s so sad to see people so desperate to be loved they’ll do anything for it. You’re never gonna find anyone decent unless you love and respect yourself first.✌️
We've been trained and brainwashed from an early age; that we are not complete until we are married, in a relationship, with our soul mate, other half or "twin flame." From our families, churches, television, movies and cult leaders on UA-cam, TikToc, etc, etc, we have been taught that lie. However, we are born complete and not lacking anything in and of ourselves. We don't need another person to make us happy or whole. We don't need "another half;" because we come into this world as a whole person, from day one. Jeff and Twin Flames took advantage of vulnerable people; and profit off of them. Jeff/Twin Flames doesn't care about his followers; but only what he can get from them. Be the best whole person you can be for yourself first and foremost. You don't have to be with anyone else to be complete or fulfilled. You are not a copy. You are unique and one of a kind.
Thank you for pointing this out! I was trying to figure out why people (including myself) believe in the concept of soulmates/TFs so easily. And it’s bc we are fed that line from birth… that true love will save you… you just need to find your one true love. No wonder why these TF gurus can prey on people so easily
@@Noa77111twin flames are real! The concept has been twisted so bad that people think it’s fake, but I don’t blame them. Twin flames have nothing to do with romance, it’s not about being with a lifetime partner, it’s about being in union with yourself. It’s about trusting your intuition and going with the flow, not being afraid of doing things the average person is scared to do. When you meet a twin flame then you will know. It will actually teach you how to not be codependent and truly embody the god version of you! Your twin flame will come through in the end but it won’t be like the social constructed relationships we see everyday. The whole point of the journey is to deprogram yourself and get rid of societies beliefs. It’s about going against the grain and being who you want to be. It’s a beautiful journey, you start loving yourself so much that you are in ZEN mode. Things won’t hurt as much, it’s like becoming an spiritual master (without the narcissism ofc). YOU are your one true love! You can’t find that in anyone else. If you study science and energy then you will see that it’s definitely real.
Spot on! Most people like to look at cults and think "we aren't like this at all". But this cult only gained significant traction because of that dysfunctional belief supported by the general society
At 7 years old I felt pretty depressed about having to grow up, becaus my parents said, "Enjoy your childhood, one day we will have to give you to a man" Like wtf? Excuse me, I have my own life to live
Brilliant documentary. This couple are sick, abusive criminals. He is absolutely foul. Ive never recoiled so much listening to another human. I am stunned that anyone could stomach being anywhere near him. I hope the victims find a way out of this hell
Honestly, it's as simple as blocking and existing the group. Simple. But you'd think it was making a plan to escape prison. They actually have that type of mental hold on people.
Sure as if it's so easy to bring cults to justice, as if cults are not evasive and covered-up and well-connected and can buy everything off. Oh wait...
Sue them for what exactly? Having seen the documentary, I don't see how any of the former members could prove they were forced to do anything against their will. Many of them even take some of the responsibility.
@@sjd1446The problem is you can't just sue someone for manipulating you. There's no evidence in this documentary that any of the members were threatened or forced to participate. It's tragic what they're doing, but it's not illegal.
Crazy. I knew Megan/Shaleia right before she met Jeff. She wanted to go out on a date with me but I wasn't into her at all. She was nice enough but definitely an ungrounded new ager. I saw when she met Jeff on Facebook and they immediately started to brand and sell themselves as Twin Flames. I saw it slowly build up over years but I had no idea it had gotten this crazy.
@@Solotv84 lol yeah luckily I wasn't even remotely attracted to her. We traded energy work sessions and she talked about hooking up with random guys as I remember lol
I just finished the documentary. My heart goes out everyone who’s been deceived by this couple. Be so careful about anything trying to offer your life substance and fulfillment. A lot of new age spirituality can be dangerous. I love the idea of community never at the price of your soul.
I just saw the documentary for recommendation. I am in a TF journey since 2020 and I can say for personal experience that when you are initially so confused, so lost and your vibration is sooo low, it can be so easy to manipulate. For desperation, you start to believe in everything that can nurture your ego. Fortunately I never saw any videos of these two people before and I never fall into manipulation. I am so near with all my heart with all the people who had going through this difficult situations and all their families. Real Love never requires anything in return, or any type of physical changing , or any big amounts of moneys. Especially TF journey.
I cannot imagine looking at these two goofballs and thinking-wow they really have it together! It would be comical except that they are completely evil. To people seeking love, I say trust your family and friends that love you, not these strangers. That is what they are no matter how many online chats you've had. Stay strong.
I have just finished episode 1 and I am livid and fuming as to what I am watching. I hope those two got done for what they have done to all those poor people.
@@icomeinpeace3756 skepticism can also lead you to a cult if you are skeptical about reality. If you want be on the side of the actual truth, seek Jesus. Real Jesus of course. Not religion. Not jeff lol by any means.. what a sicko.
@@icomeinpeace3756 I'm appalled at the simplistic hilarity that he would think he is Jesus JUST because he looks somewhat similar to the most popular images of Jesus. The Bible clearly states: "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them." Exodus 20: 4-5 Another version of this verse which is part of the most basic 10 commandments on the Bible (and here I'll share 3/10 of the commandments): Exodus 20: 3-7 NLT 3“You must not have any other god but me. 4 “You must not make for yourself an idol of any kind or an image of anything in the heavens or on the earth or in the sea. 5 You must not bow down to them or worship them, for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God who will not tolerate your affection for any other gods. I lay the sins of the parents upon their children; the entire family is affected-even children in the third and fourth generations of those who reject me. 6 But I lavish unfailing love for a thousand generations on those[b] who love me and obey my commands. 7 “You must not misuse the name of the Lord your God. The Lord will not let you go unpunished if you misuse his name. then you can find this quote from wikipedia: "In a number of places the ancient texts assert that God has no shape or form and is utterly incomparable; thus no idol, image, idea, or anything in creation could ever capture God's essence." Jeff is a fool.
I’m glad I seen this on Netflix. I realized I was not the only one who was put into an abusive relationship told they were my twinflame and the abuse was my fault and I had to heal it and do the mirror exercise. I was in the group and I want to tell yall they are a cult as a former member of the group
As a Mother I am so so happy to hear this. I'm hoping to see and read more of this.Just praying for 1 person at management level to leave so others will follow.
That couple are the biggest scammers! They should be in prison! Jeff in particular is scary. Notice that his wife slowly becomes less and less assertive and Jeff even degrades her the way he speaks about forcing sex on her. They’re sick! Jeff is a criminal!
From the outside, these cult leaders are so uncharismatic, so unconvincing, and so obviously pulling a con. People are so desperate to find love and community and preying on that universal urge is beyond despicable.
You can fall for anything if you are healing from trauma or brainwashed that you had one. I don't trust the channeling, coaching, healers (scientology also have that on their agenda) so please be sceptical. They know they stuff. It's on military level psychology (hypnosis-hypno-selfhypnosis). Beware.
This was a good documentary. It’s sad that vulnerable, lonely people were taken advantage of by these sociopaths. I can’t wait for justice to be served, and karma to bring them down. What total insanity.
Its very easy to portray people as evil. Ive followed these guys from the start. They arent evil. They teach similar to what most TF coaches are . Sure theyve made mistakes who hasnt but it isnt deliberate manipulation. They created a community and provided courses. Got full of themselves for sure but they are good people with a lot of amazing teachings. And some of their teachings definitely are a miss. So discernment is KEY for anyone on the spiritual path. The TF journey IS challenging and impossible to understand for non spiritual people. We really gonna fall into the old witch hunting again?? We know Netflix docos are very commonly used to demonise people and discredit genuine movements that certains powers want to control and destroy. Twin flames ARE very powerful and this really an attack on the twin flame journey not Jeff and Shaleia. They are just being used as a convenient scapegoat... cant believe people are falling for these witch hunts 🙄🙄🙄🤦♀️🤦♀️
@@sarebear5207 I have watched their vids and the two of them speaking, and listened to their “doctrine”, and they are complete idiots. This is nothing to do with a “portrayal” the evidence speaks for itself. You’re brainwashed, and therefore lacking clear judgement. My discernement is fine, and I am a spiritual being. I can just recognize cult tactics and behaviour when I see them. I hope you get help.
A lot of pontificating in the comments. “Wow, these people are so stupid, I would never fall for that.” It’s easy to judge. Many cult members are highly educated, but our hardwired need for connection, community and love can lead people to ignore all warning signs. Humans need a tribe like bees need a hive. Add some trauma, loneliness and idealism in the mix, and you’re on the Cult Express.
Join a book club, gym or start a healthy group for people who want to connect on a sane level. Why join a group of controlling narcissistic, who only want to take your money and advantage of you. If people are that desperate to belong that they're willing to give up all sense of self-preservation then they are stupid.
Exactly. This is what all cult research shows - that none of us are immune. Thinking we are actually makes us more vulnerable. Keeping connected with our loved ones and not being cut off from our support systems does have a protective effect.
the craziest thing to me is how these cults are still able to operate because the law can't find anything against them. Proving that someone else has manipulated your thoughts and coerced you into acting against your own free will is incredibly difficult.
Its very easy to portray people as evil. Ive followed these guys from the start. They arent evil. They teach similar to what most TF coaches are . Sure theyve made mistakes who hasnt but it isnt deliberate manipulation. They created a community and provided courses. Got full of themselves for sure but they are good people with a lot of amazing teachings. And some of their teachings definitely are a miss. So discernment is KEY for anyone on the spiritual path. The TF journey IS challenging and impossible to understand for non spiritual people. We really gonna fall into the old witch hunting again?? We know Netflix docos are very commonly used to demonise people and discredit genuine movements that certains powers want to control and destroy. Twin flames ARE very powerful and this really an attack on the twin flame journey not Jeff and Shaleia. They are just being used as a convenient scapegoat... cant believe people are falling for these witch hunts 🙄🙄🙄🤦♀️🤦♀️
@@sarebear5207these guys have blood sticking on their hands, women have committed suicide due to their cult. Those people are dangerous, stop making them seem harmless.
This is not a witch-hunt, if many people have evidence and claims of their abusive and manipulative/coercive control tactics, then they are surely not innocent. You don’t have to be spiritual to understand narcissism and abuse. And they are making a clear portrayal of the people, if they were so good and great you would not have so many people who would have left the cult.
@@VYVEVideography There isn't any evidence in this documentary. Jeff does go on some verbally abusive tirades, but he never makes any threats. It seems the only real fear that the members have is of, ironically, being kicked out of the cult.
This is so sick. People mixing love and possession. True love is who you are. No one in the world can ever love you as much as you love you. Real love is inside of you.
Jesus literally healed my heart for free when I called out his name and asked him to forgive me. Peace and salvation are a free gift that was given to us when Jesus died for our sins.
It is really sad how desperate people are to find a partner. These people were willing to pay thousands, some even tens of thousands of dollars, move in with total strangers, and even change their gender via surgery and treatments all for the idea that they will be with someone.
I listened to a podcast about this cult about a year ago. It's called Twin Flames. It was fascinating and disturbing at the same time. All the best to the people who escaped this wacko belief system.
It is called "Twin Flame Universe". "Twin Flames" is a term used in spiritual contexts like kundalini, chakras, soul, or whatever thing not visible with the 5 senses. So It's a cult that uses (or misuses) that term, the term in itself has not a negative or positive connotation.
the phenomenon of twin flames is real. it´s a spiritual phenomenon. Twin flames universe is a company, they are people making money with this. They just misuse the term twin flames, they tell people that everyone has a tf and that anyone can go and search for this.
You are wrong, don’t generalize that is all a cult, they are a cult. Is not a belief system either, if you haven’t lived it don’t say is a system because is not. Do some research about twin flames .
@heather4089 I know what twin flames are, but I'm not referring to the term in its original sense. The term has been appropriated by this cult and has done damage to a lot of people.
@@heather4089research? There's no research, there's just noise. Millions of incoherent ramblings, sometimes walls of text copied and pasted into affirmation style memes, random blogs never maintained since the late 2000s, scammers, predators and all of that rolled into one on sites like quora. It's just one concept of many hundreds, all attempts to unify all philosophical questions into one theory and provide solace through confusion. If you're lost, you're vulnerable, and if you're a believer, you're even more lost.
I remember when i started on the twin flame path, i was very vulnerable and desperate. It was more than about love, it was about feeling whole and truly loving myself. I grew up with very strong beliefs and faith. I just needed a way to regain the faith that i lost. When i came upon Jeff and Shaleia, everytbing in my core was telling me to not follow them. I saw some videos they had and boy, was i right to turn away. The feeling i got watching them was not what i needed. I felt they are so dilusional and greedy. I do thank the twin flame label for putting me back on the right track with regaining my faith BUT i will say that following the twin flame movement religiously hindered me for a bit. If people are going to look into new spiritual movements, please do it with a grain of salt.
Yeah similar for me Altho I did use the mirror technique and that was fab actually just knew something was off with them more and more as I watched the ppl in the group and their posts. They didn’t invent the mirror technique
@@Introvertanjali I think it’s a great tool in the toolkit of seeint how you create your reality. For example ‘Jon makes me feel small and it makes me angry.’ Flip to ‘ I make myself feel small and it makes me angry’ sit and meditate with this and accept it etc
I think it's sad. I visited some videos from TWU. None have a thumbs down. This Netflix trailer has 93 thumbs down. What is wrong with people? Everyone should be thankful there are documentaries like this. But apparently people like to get screwed.
This is making me more and more convinced that high quality therapy and therapists should be a human right and available to everyone free of charge. People are not well and theyre having trouble managing their lives or their emotions. We are a doomed species if mental health issues arnt addressed.
Was a most damaging thing to see as a true twin, the journey is hard enough as it is without people like this causing more confusion. Divine twins are here to heal, not use their power to abuse people. Telling people who their twin is like matchmakers was beyond me. If you're on the journey, you will be awakened by God as per your soul contract. It's scary, intense and serious deep soul work to align the energies of one soul in two bodies. Those not on the journey won't understand. Love to all of the twins on the journey, we need you. Justice will be served. 🧿
You have to stop telling people lies. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS TWIN FLAMES. THERE IS NO AWAKENING FROM GOD AND NO ENERGIES TO ALIGN! Stop spreading lies or you'll have to answer them before the real God.
Twin flames are demonic. All this new age stuff is terrible. Be very careful and look for christ. You will be surprised how many demons are taking advantage of this stuff(and are most likely hiding within you)
@Mamzellex03 Apologies, I meant no offence. It's the straw that breaks the camel's back that makes us crack 😄 I think the one thing we can all agree on is that there is something there that is bigger than ourselves, whether we identify that with God, love as an energy, Allah, Buddha, Christ, Krishna, whatever. It all leads to the same thing.. love. Keep your ❤️ open.
Its very easy to portray people as evil. Ive followed these guys from the start. They arent evil. They teach similar to what most TF coaches are . Sure theyve made mistakes who hasnt but it isnt deliberate manipulation. They created a community and provided courses. Got full of themselves for sure but they are good people with a lot of amazing teachings. And some of their teachings definitely are a miss. So discernment is KEY for anyone on the spiritual path. The TF journey IS challenging and impossible to understand for non spiritual people. We really gonna fall into the old witch hunting again?? We know Netflix docos are very commonly used to demonise people and discredit genuine movements that certains powers want to control and destroy. Twin flames ARE very powerful and this really an attack on the twin flame journey not Jeff and Shaleia. They are just being used as a convenient scapegoat... cant believe people are falling for these witch hunts 🙄🙄🙄🤦♀️🤦♀️
@@sarebear5207i agree that due to them people no longer believe in Twin Flames however to diminish what they’ve done, they’re not innocent, they’ve got blood on their hands!! Yes, they had some ounce of remorse and empathy in them somewhere in their life, but that doesn't mean they should go unpunished and get away with continuing to ruin more lives.
I just finished watching this on Netflix, the way Jeff controlled and manipulated the followers was super dangerous and scary. The way everyone wanted to be on their good side and soo terrified to disobey them was bizzare and crazy. Whole time watching this I asked myself how are all these people who were academically good and intellectuals be buying these couple bullcrap delusions when they had no credentials of psychology or any background on handling a community. I guess us as 3rd party observer, you don't know how the victims felt unless we were in their shoes. We immediately feel and see the creepiness this "cult" possessed their powers over financial gain. I feel soo sorry for the families who were cut off from their loved ones, especially the mothers on this show. I hope this shows blows up and ruin their scheme, went on stalking mode and the TFU is still up and running which is ridiculous!
I’ve always been a bit of a dreamer, so it was easy for me to get caught up in the whole “twin flame” idea. For a while, I genuinely believed in it-there were so many “signs,” like seeing orbs, angel numbers, and I even started channeling "spirits". But all of that faded when I finally stepped away from that mindset. Thankfully, I feel more grounded now as I’ve gotten older. I just hope younger people have the guidance and awareness to avoid falling into that kind of trap.
I can’t even watch the whole thing, my heart goes out to those who were manipulated during their most vulnerable times. I’m praying you guys completely heal from these monsters and all your dreams come true.
Desperation is such a powerful resource. You can get ANYTHING and EVERYTHING out of someone if you catch them at their lowest and effectively prey on their desperation. Desperation for love. Desperation for answers. Desperation for hope. Desperation to be understood. It's how religions do it. It's how political parties do it. It's how militaries do it. It's how gangs do it. It's how cults do it. Same strategy across the board.
Just getting to finally watch this. Saw the one on Prime. I hope federal agencies take action or laws are passed to protect those followers. I predicted years ago this cult is going to start attracting predators.
Its very easy to portray people as evil. Ive followed these guys from the start. They arent evil. They teach similar to what most TF coaches are . Sure theyve made mistakes who hasnt but it isnt deliberate manipulation. They created a community and provided courses. Got full of themselves for sure but they are good people with a lot of amazing teachings. And some of their teachings definitely are a miss. So discernment is KEY for anyone on the spiritual path. The TF journey IS challenging and impossible to understand for non spiritual people. We really gonna fall into the old witch hunting again?? We know Netflix docos are very commonly used to demonise people and discredit genuine movements that certains powers want to control and destroy. Twin flames ARE very powerful and this really an attack on the twin flame journey not Jeff and Shaleia. They are just being used as a convenient scapegoat... cant believe people are falling for these witch hunts 🙄🙄🙄🤦♀️🤦♀️
I just wanna say Thank you to Netflix, Prime Video, all the mothers, family, friends, and everyone involved for these documentaries and for shedding light on the TRUE intentions of these individuals. I believe in Twin flame/ soulmate connection and the power of manifestations and Law of attraction, unfortunately there’s always gonna be negative people hindering your journey. I’ve learned to stay true to myself, knowing who i am and relying on my intuition, if it doesn’t feel right, don’t do it 👍🏾👍🏾👌🏾👌🏾 God Bless everyone and I truly believe these people WILL get what they deserve!!!!
So if you believe in this ''law of attraction'', do you believe that victims of war, hunger, r*e, abuse, illness, genocide, violence, injustice ''attracted'' that into their lives? Hmm? Do I deserve my chronic illness, did I ''wish'' for it? Did we Ukrainians ask for this damn war? Did we ''attract'' all those horrible atrocities and losses? DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE IN? This law of attraction is business, it's essentially a cult, only less obvious and horrible as the one below. It's CRUEL, naive and simplistic to believe that everyone gets what they ''attract'' into their lives, that's not how it works. Life is so much more complicated and unfair than that. Your rose-tainted glassess WILL fall off eventually.
The way the families of these people that get victimized must feel! If that couple really cared about anyone they would never encourage people to stop talking to their families. This is the first thing cult leaders do!
Would personally say it’s not necessarily about monitoring their activity, more so how important it is to teach them how to protect themselves from people who would prey on their vulnerability.
This is unrealistic in our day and age though, do you expect parents to drop everything and follow their kids on the Internet ALL THE TIME? Think! There should be more education on internet safety, it's true.
I been trying to "avoid" to the people who came to their YT channel - they still are active- and deleted all my comments! Its obviously many people doesnt watch the serie on Netflix...they are so needed to fund answers... its so sad...
I tried to enlighten many people. The answer I got was. Netflix is "mainstream". People are already so divided. And the mainstream always tries to denigrate spiritual things. I personally believe in Twin Flames, but you have to learn to differentiate. Even if many exercises are good, there can still be an evil force behind them. Many spiritual people don't realise that. I see spiritual coaches on Facebook every day who just want to make money. Hardly anyone there realises it either.
The problem with all modern day spirituality is it’s been taken over by materialism click funnels and greed it didn’t used to be like that 10 years ago but ppl realise it’s an easy way to exploit vulnerable ppl at the start of their journey who don’t know what’s going on.
what do you mean it didn't used to be like that 10 years ago? there has been a lot of successful cults in the 60s, 70s too, before internet click funnels
@@FruityHachi cults but the majority of ppl in spirituality genuinely wanted to help 10/20 years ago. Like eckhart Tolle like him or not he had a story and he shared it in a £10 book. Money came after the wantint to share. Now ppl are awake for like 5 days and thinking how to monetise it it’s very different to me
@@ExplorewithSarahlouise you say that the majority of spiritual gurus wanted to help but you only provided 1 name, that does not equal majority unless you have actual data statistics you cannot claim it was the majority maybe you surrounded yourself with a few gurus and it gave you the impression that it's the majority, when in reality there has been more than just a few gurus, and you also need to count gurus in other countries as well
@@ExplorewithSarahlouise also, keep in mind that money is not the only way how spiritual gurus can take advantage of others they could just want power and control over people's minds, their time, their relationships etc.
@@FruityHachi sure but I notice the money thing Lately, cults have never rly bothered me that much as never fallen for them, in fact, I’ve even gotten useful stuff from them,. For example, I took the mirror exercise from this but didn’t want to engage any further, whereas I feel like I can’t even attend a workshop or an event without a bunch of people trying to shill their service they’ve done for about two weeks these days I find it more exhausting to be honest.
Aint nobody gonna talk about Marlee ? She was 19 and they put her to date a guy with mental illness and criminal record, she looked very scared and uncomfortable the whole time
There’s nothing beautiful, healthy and/or romantic about a twin soul/flame connection. Also, no one has the power to guide you to it but YOU. It takes learning who you truly are and loving, nurturing and supporting your self. Once you do, you will find you don’t ‘need’ anyone to “complete” you, but this is when you will feel/be the most “attractive” and I’m not meaning looks wise. ☮️❤️☀️
I will NEVER understand the CULT of marriage or having to be with someone attached to your ass to be happy. At almost 63 years of age, I have absolutely LOVED my single life and the great power that comes from it ! Love YOURSELF !!!
Judging people for wanting a partner at your age is a coping mechanism. Romantic partnership is innate and a part of every society since the beginning of man kind.
@@WilliamsPinch if you read her comment well and not read into it, you will see that she is saying that she doesn’t understand why people have to seek happiness in another person. And that society teaches us that we are worthless and we will never be happy unless we’re tied to another person. i’ve known of many people in my lifetime, including myself that were in relationships only because we were fearful of being lonely. Even though the person sucked the lives out of us. we should be happy as single people and strive to be happy as individuals before we actually meet someone else. and honestly, we should still strive to be happy on our own even if we’re partnered with someone.
As an Indian my blood boils to see this.. These filthy cons use all the new agey symbolism which are actually cultural appropriation from the profound spiritual practices of Hinduism and India. They then use this to deceive innocent people to join a cult. Such a shame!
Watched many cult docs, and those 2 are by far the least charismatic cult leaders, who don't even try to hide their true intention, which is making money. Amazing how so many people got fooled by those psychopathic clowns.
The people who are judging everyone saying omg how could u fall for this are the ones who were at the throats of people saying 1 year isnt enough for clinical trials and we do not trust this jab. Those people were calling sensible skeptical people conspiracy theorists bec they were coerced and controlled bh news media owned by the pharma giants. Same people who can't imagine companies and government leaders could be corrupt and infact bullied their own brethren bec they were told what to think by their ' owners' so yeah it is exactly the same.
I have never encountered anything like this. I remember years ago when I had one of my spiritual awakening and heard about twin flames for the first time how I used to read comments and whatnot about people who were desperate to find their twin flames, and found it so scary to see how they truly believed that the twin flame connection is some sort of ultimate human related romance. As I have already met my Twin Flame, for anyone who EVER has hoped or has hopes that this experience is some Notebook shit, let me tell you it isn't. It is probably the most difficult experience if you are very stuck into believing what I just said, or have an anxious or avoidant emotional attachment style, or has suffered from abandonment or emotional codependency. It will turn you upside down, and inside out to the point where you have to face yourself. And in itself it is a blessing, yet if you are not ready...
Thank you so much for your comment. People are delusional and are romanticising something which is soul crushing. It’s very complex, and it isn’t a romantic connection. It’s more about healing and growing. It’s a traumatising experience.
The truth is you don't SEEK your twinflame. You and your twinflame will find one another when and if you're suppose to. The problem is people don't have discernment. The truth will always resonate. You can't force something that isn't.
@@n.b.0212 well said... It happens when and if it's supposed to happen, and you don't even need to know the term twin flame for it to happen, and you definitely don't need to be wanting or seeking a relationship.
💯. It’s not something anyone wants. It’s the most heartbreaking experience ever to go through and so very painful and you won’t know what it is and go searching for answers bc it’s so spiritually crazy with the signs and awakening and you’re seriously afraid. Finding the community in general of others who went through it really helped me to be ok and not think I was going crazy and that it was real and others were ok too. Unfortunately groups like in this documentary take advantage of those in a vulnerable space to rope them into their cult. Very scary. I had a lot of discernment though. They once tried to tell me my tf wasn’t the real one that if I paid thousands for a coaching they could attract them for me and that’s when I was like yea no, I know what I experienced and saw right through it.
Oh, how right you are. If only most people knew, they'd be fine with never meeting theirs lol. Your comment is so relatable that I can only hope your own journey is easier than mine 😆 (jk, of course it's not * insert "we're all in this together" HSM meme *). Been doing this dance for 20 years and although it seems done every time we part ways... surprise mf! Nope! At this point I kinda wish the Universe would just speed up my twin's side of things so the lessons can be learned a bit more equally because IT'S EXHAUSTING. Although, and again you're spot on, nothing ever has made me face myself work on myself (shadow, core wounds, dark nights of the soul - must be my 5th or 6th by now, hold myself accountable and propel me forward) like my twin. Silver lining, I guess. But damn, it fcking hurts 😔 Good luck to us all on that journey 😂🫂
I had no idea this existed but I just watched the documentaries. It is almost unbelievable the amount of power and money they were able to gather, since both of them are very sick people. Not only do they display a lot of psychiatric symptoms, they genuinely believed their own lies at some point, what also indicates how sick they really are and that they are unable to realize the damage they do, or they do but choose to ignore, which makes it even worse. None of them are in any way qualified to give psychological advice or to train anybody in any way whatsoever, and the most infuriating thing is that they were screaming out loud how much they were actually selfishly using the continuous work of their followers to keep on their financial goals, without even trying to cover it, and yet, many of their followers chose, after a long period of psychological abuse and manipulation, to continue to be active within the group. It is heartbreaking how all of those people needed psychological/ psychiatric help to begin with and therefore were easy targets. They should not even be allowed to be parents, and the fact they are still not being found accountable for the cruelty, dehumanizing, abuse, manipulation and in many degrees enslaving of many innocent people is beyond word. Such crimes should not go unpunished, including not helping a suicidal member of their group. Nice job Netflix for bringing this to light, we hope that there is justice for the victims.
I remember when i had a spiritual awakening and started to know about twin flames i found this two. But they kick me out of the group bc 3 days on it i saw their bs 😂 He showed his ferrari and money everywhere and then be like you need to loose your ego to find your twin 😂 that guy is narcisist bastard 😂 she s just like him too
I already thought so...they have such negative energy! I knew they were scammers! I am glad this is out!!! Be careful of those milking you for money for the sake of your twinflame or for any person you love or obsessed with!!
What a great business model: promise a group of women they'll find love and when they don't, make half the group turn into men and pair them up with the other half lol. Scary crazy stufd
in 2020, I thought I met my “twin flame”. In my opinion people abuse this label as “your other half or “the love of your life” when its the exact opposite. i would consider a twin flame would be a person who “stirs shit up” on the inside. They are meant to reflect what you truly want in yourself. the whole part of the journey is the journey to SELF. not needing the other persons validation. im thankful for this person showing up in my life and it pains me that they left but ive shown, whomever is meant for me will be. I consider my TF situation majority of a trauma bond/limerance. Again the whole part of the journey is self love. Ive learned to let this person go and be okay to sit still in my own presence. Ive came across Jeffs videos throughout the years but didnt pay much attention to it because it cost alot of $.
Sounds like karma to me. I don't believe in the cult twin flame universe. But when I met my twin, I knew. Not, could be. As long as you think that way, he's not. We're also together now. He is and was what I always imagined my second part to be. Before him, I didn't want a relationship with a man. Before him, I was never desperate. It was a hard road and I still have work to do. But my loyalty paid off.
@@bunteseinhorn7523 good for you! that your with your person. Im conciously choosing myself because in the end i know my twin will never choose me. id rather a soulmate. Too much pain from this guy lol
Preach! It’s exactly what is is. There’s definitely a spiritual aspect to it, but free will is involved and the main goal isn’t to end up with the so called “counterpart”.
I never desired a TF connection because it entails suffering. We all have a choice and I choose to my self work and attract my soulmate or someone I can catch a good vibe with on this journey. Being born into a world where in order for you to survive something has to die…including a plant, is suffering enough. I’m not signing up for nothing extra😅
As an Indian my blood boils to see this.. These filthy cons use all the new agey symbolism which are actually cultural appropriation from the profound spiritual practices of Hinduism and India. They then use this to deceive innocent people to join a cult. Such a shame!
I’ve watched their videos on yt when I was heavy on the tf journey, but I had no clue all of this was going on. I actually believed in them & their “union” WOW
@@lolarew6752 I just watched a few of their videos. This was years ago. They wasn’t saying anything different from any other tf coaches & content at the time. I didn’t know anything about the university & the cult.
@@Risha-Renebut twin flame as a concept is ridiculously stupid, how do u buy into that? ....same thing as soul mate....there is no such a thing as one perfect partner for anyone....because then if one person picks the wrong partner, the whole eco system is done
Its very easy to portray people as evil. Ive followed these guys from the start. They arent evil. They teach similar to what most TF coaches are . Sure theyve made mistakes who hasnt but it isnt deliberate manipulation. They created a community and provided courses. Got full of themselves for sure but they are good people with a lot of amazing teachings. And some of their teachings definitely are a miss. So discernment is KEY for anyone on the spiritual path. The TF journey IS challenging and impossible to understand for non spiritual people. We really gonna fall into the old witch hunting again?? We know Netflix docos are very commonly used to demonise people and discredit genuine movements that certains powers want to control and destroy. Twin flames ARE very powerful and this really an attack on the twin flame journey not Jeff and Shaleia. They are just being used as a convenient scapegoat... cant believe people are falling for these witch hunts 🙄🙄🙄🤦♀️🤦♀️
Jeff is one of the creepiest guys, what an extremely disturbing person and his partner too, taking advantage of vulnerable, lonely people. Would be happy to see them put away for life and take accountability for being total creeps - Well made documentary calling out these criminals - I felt physically ill watching these two cult leaders speak it's literally a thriller/horror. Absolute bs teachings, so horrific! Put them away!!
I’m blown away! Sad all lives being destroyed by this man. Since nothing criminal is proven yet the one that worked for him could technically file a class action civil suit for sexual harassment. He preys on the young and vulnerable. The only way to hurt this narcissist is to hit his bank account.
People, learn about narcissistic behaviours and how to recognize them, especially about the Machiavellian Narcissists, who has no fear of consequences, including rules and laws. Learn to discern between the honest expression and manipulation. Heal on your own, at home, in silence, in deep listening in, so you never fall prey of the predators. That knowledge will be important in the coming years. Learn, so you can love truly, starting with yourself.✨
Ostatnio ogladałam mnóstwo filmów dokumentalnych o sektach. I statystcznie widzę, że w dużej mierze to właśnie amerykanie , są tak zagubieni, tak samotni aby wejść, przystąpić i uwierzyć w SEKTĘ. To dobry pomysł na badania socjologiczne. Dlaczego jeden naród jest bardziej podatny na kontrolę przez jednostek względem innych?
There is a large German Facebook group. There are also 4 of their coaches in Austria. Of course there are many Americans, it's a big country. But the books have been translated into several languages. So make no mistake.
The way that cities are designed in the United States keeps people apart. Our cities are not designed to create close-knit communities. Also, a lot of the first settlers/colonizers were a bunch of religious nut-bags/crazy people. These aren’t the only reasons, but they could be contributing factors.
every country can have cults, but you're right, the usa has more cults than other countries have, there are a lot of online articles about why so many cults are formed in the usa , so check out if you're interested ♡
@@sweetmoni8561 the usa has a lot of cults,more than other countries, and it's not because the country is big because a lot of big counties like russia,china,brazil, canada don't have a lot of cults.
I honestly think it's because America runs more on the individualistic mindset rather than collectivist orientation values. You can think of it as two sayings: America - "Pull yourself up from your bootstraps" vs. Non- capitalist countries: " It takes a village to raise a child". I think a large number of Americans may be out for themselves and those that need the support system (family, friends, neighbors, etc) during the toughest times can fall victim to cults bc cults lead people to believe that "they will always be there for you"
I just watched it. It made me sad to see how far humans can go to find a partner and how disgusting some people are taking advantage of them. Parents, take care of your children: no one can “steal them” from you if you loved them from their early years .
Traditional boring hardcore family roles are so destroyed right now, father's were the ones who slapped reality into our minds and mother's used nurturing to show the world is so warm and beautiful. Attention, concern respect are all smashed into bits. And what's funny people disrespect themselves and other's so casually as if everyone gets out of it without any scars
The fact that people still support and protect their actions in different instagram pages disappoints reality of people believing narcissists we all need help man very frustrating this 😢
Wtf did I just watch?! Seriously surprised NXIUM 2.0 is allowed to thrive in Leelaneau County. Thank you to all who spoke out to bring light to these predator scammers. Hope they end up sharing a cell with Bronfman and Raniere.
I'm fascinated how people fall in this trap and they are not stupid at all. How they are brain washed, I don't get it. As someone who as an immigrant had a hard and tough life and many other obstacles from infertility to loss of close family members and not to be able to be for them at that moment. I never complained to my best friends or anyone, but to believe some stranger, sorry but my European mentality can't ever understand that. When you are working so hard and fighting for survival you don't believe in some online crap, plus those guys look so creepy.
I think the reason of all these is because they usually have these traits: -So immature, they are usually so young - mind already brain washed by religion, USA is a very religious country, it’s easy for them to be involved in this crazy stuff - emotionally unstable -problematic lives
@@FortheLoveofMonsters There are, but cults has almost became an industry in US, backed by the massive new-age bs industry. It shows how lonely, desperate and mentally unstable US society is. Of course, buying assault rifles and committing massacres is an other indicator for that.
It’s easy to fall when you are at your most vulnerable, and typically if you are going through a spiritual awakening or rebirth. It’s so easy to swoop in and for someone to pretend to be your spiritual saviour. The truth being the only true saviour is Jesus Christ. Nobody else can live up to the feeling of having his love sanctify your heart. 💜
It is amazing how people can take spiritual concepts and twist them into a cult (hint-happens all the time, has happened for thousands of years). I figured out pretty quickly that Jeff and Shaleia were false, but I never dreamed it would evolve into this level of toxicity.
What is so sad is that people could achieve the same level of community by joining a book club or a soccer team 😢. “So many people are lonely but not willing to make the first move” These cults are just fighting over these weak and venerable people. It’s so sad.
Listen people…with love. ❤ YOU ARE your true love. At your core you are divine masculine and feminine energy. Nothing completes you as you are already whole. You lack nothing. Self love, compassion, acceptance, and a 🤏🏽 independent research would trump all of this madness. I don’t like seeing “Twin Flame” used to dupe people. You have to study everything for yourself.
They prey on people who have been broken and very vulnerable and been in trauma. When everything seems to confused you. Take a deep breath and pray 🙏. Play the Psalm 91 everyday . It will really helps. All of us in this world are going through different hardships but if we have faith it can move mountains. It can heal us and keep going. Just keep calling God and he will rescue you.
this documentary shows how easy it is to manipulate people in the name of love. How lonely we all are and how desperate we are to feel loved. These guys should be punished to life in prison sick people playing with other people's lives just to make some money.
I genuinly hope these 2 docs are the first of many more exposing material to come. It cannot stop here and forgotten about in 6 months time. Someone living close to them should hang up flyers in the entire area motivating other residents to watch both documentaries. More interviews need to happen. A TV series with Mandy Moore is currently in the makes as well. Please please let this not stop after this. Jeff and Shaleia need their so-called empire to fully crash. They deserve nothing less.
She, co-founder, met him by asking him are you horny, online, when she was still young, thin and pretty. Now he's better looking, and she's fat and frumpy and middle-aged-hausfrau looking. Fat, if not from hormonal imbalance, is a kind of protection you put on, against the pain and insecurities you have. Methinks, husband is side-stepping and she knows.......... This was/is just a business, nothing else.
Thank you Lord for showing the true.I thought I was never see this cult falling after all the pain we went through with this spiritualists I thought no justice would ever come.
I am on my Twin Flame Journey and have been in this Facebook community for last 1.5 years. Though I didn't met my Twin there. I met him first then joined the group so casually. Never bought their course because it's too high in Indian money. I must admit that the group is helpful but have no idea what happens after buying their ascension classes but they said it so many times that You can't achieve Harmonious Twin Flame Union without joining their course. I never really cared. I just know If it's meant to be it will be. In world so many Twin Flames come into harmonious union naturally and it's predestined. If it's in your fate, If God wants then it's your universal right to have Twin Flame Union. Nobody can stop it ❤
Its very easy to portray people as evil. Ive followed these guys from the start. They arent evil. They teach similar to what most TF coaches are . Sure theyve made mistakes who hasnt but it isnt deliberate manipulation. They created a community and provided courses. Got full of themselves for sure but they are good people with a lot of amazing teachings. And some of their teachings definitely are a miss. So discernment is KEY for anyone on the spiritual path. The TF journey IS challenging and impossible to understand for non spiritual people. We really gonna fall into the old witch hunting again?? We know Netflix docos are very commonly used to demonise people and discredit genuine movements that certains powers want to control and destroy. Twin flames ARE very powerful and this really an attack on the twin flame journey not Jeff and Shaleia. They are just being used as a convenient scapegoat... cant believe people are falling for these witch hunts 🙄🙄🙄🤦♀️🤦♀️
@@sarebear5207 They don't "vibrate" twin flames. They're not, all they're interested in is money, that's all. There aren't one or two testimonials, there are plenty. Full $8,000 courses in twin flame coaching are simply a scandal. You can't force the TF to meet like this. Wake up! When will you understand that to be with your sacred partner you don't have to do anything but just "be". You won't get there by buying exorbitantly priced assistance packs. If you're on a path of spiritual evolution, then do what your intuition tells you to do and you'll evolve naturally towards your sacred partner. It's possible to get there without spending money on a "certified twin flame coach". If you have a desire to move towards a more sacred sexuality then go on a tantra retreat (and not push women to accept everything men want to do to them, as Jeff explains.). If you feel your inner child wants to express itself, dance and do art therapy sessions. It's by going where your heart tells you to go that you'll get closer to your sacred partner. Your heart will never tell you to go to a "certified twin flame coach". It's certainly not what your spiritual guides want you to do. Stop looking so dismayed with your smiley faces. What they're doing is very serious for people's mental health.
I felt so bad for Marlee. They pushed a 19 year old to pursue a relationship with an online creep with a criminal record and bunch of mental illnesses. So vile these two! They should be in jail. This show made me so mad ☹️
I agree they should have some form of justice
Marlee ❤
Why can this happen? How can anyone encourage them to be with horrible people because Jeff said they are "Twin Flames". Jeff accepts abuse then.....
I'm sorry but I never laughed so much in long time with this show, so stupid everyone, I was high watching it so that's prob why lol
Can’t feel bad for her cause she’s 19.. she was old enough to realize how dumb this whole thing was
I have been in this cult for 2 years and knew most of these people but only from online communication. It has been two hell of years but what most hurt is the time after that and how long it took to piece myself together again. Thank you Netflix and everyone envolved to publish this! The world needs to know whats really happening in there and how evil these two people truly are. This is releaving and healing to know the truth is finally spreaded
My heart goes out to you. I hope you get the healing you need.
It took me a few months to notice their bs, so I stopped following them.
@@heather4089Good for you Heather!
I am glad you left the cult
So sorry you were a VICTIM of these predators. And kudos to netflix for streaming this. Glad u got out.
Finding love doesn’t require joining a cult, changing your gender and draining your bank account. If you believe in Soulmates, then love yourself and let love find you.
Yes they ruined the journey of growth
The fact that these people were willing to pay over 2000 dollars for a ten week course with the promise of having their soulmate (and love is just a chemical reaction in the brain) at the end of that, for me that's proof these people were willing to ignore that red flag and many more to come.
Plenty of public info on cults nowadays. In my opinion, I've you've joined one it's on you. People can know better, they should know better.
@@JustLetTerenceExplainItThat’s what I said!!! Has humanity lost its common sense? I saw those 2 years ago in a UA-cam video and I could see how full of ego they are and moved on. Why do people pay hard earned money for this??
@@JustLetTerenceExplainIt A lot of people come from traumatic, abusive or otherwise dysfunctional backgrounds. This means that sadly abuse and dysfunction feels normal so they don't recognise them as red flags until either things get do bad they can't unsee it, or they go through a recovery process usually with a therapist. Cults use love bombing, gaslighting, threats, isolation and other psychological techniques to lure and brainwash previously victimised people.
As an Indian my blood boils to see this.. These filthy cons use all the new agey symbolism which are actually cultural appropriation from the profound spiritual practices of Hinduism and India. They then use this to deceive innocent people to join a cult. Such a shame!
Here's a tip to live a cult-free life: when someone tells you they're Jesus, don't believe them.
Jesus Himself litereally said that so if nothing else is a red flag, that should be the one!
Matthew 24: 4Jesus answered, “See to it that no one deceives you. 5For many will come in My name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. 6You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. These things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8All these are the beginning of birth pains.
@@BearingMySeoul How do you know Jesus wasn't a cult leader?
@@Roswell33because no one was being brainwashed, starved, and he never asked for money,he’s all about freewill!
@@Roswell33 Somebody else already answered below but yeah, if you look up what defines a cult in the modern definition, Jesus doesn't qualify because 1) people were free to come and go---John 6:66 states that a lot of people left Jesus after one of His sermons---2) He had the majority of His meetings in public which He points out when He's arrested. (Luke 22:52-53)
amazing tip 😂
As a Mother who's daughter has been in this cult for years(they got her at 16 years old which should be illegal to start with. She is now 25)I am hoping this documentary shows the real grief and desperation of the families who are suffering. As grateful as I am to Prime Video and all involved, it did not portray this Cult as evil and disgusting as it is. Time to go to jail Jeffrey and Megan but I do feel for their darling little daughter.
What daughter? She said she didn’t have kids long ago. 😮
It's netflix
They are predators. After netlfix i bet people will be planted in his scam and more will come to light. Praying to GOD ( NOT JEFF) ur baby comes home. Keep youre head up. I just watched the doc today and theres no way this isnt going viral. Netflix did a great job showing what a narcissist jeff is.
This is painful…
@@heather4089 they have a baby
My heart breaks for the woman who committed suicide while being in this cult. They have blood on their hands.
It’s so sad to see people so desperate to be loved they’ll do anything for it. You’re never gonna find anyone decent unless you love and respect yourself first.✌️
PREACH
I can be just about anything. The keywords are the same.
Sure, this common truth still does not help all those people though.
Actually ppl are lovable as they are. ✌️
We've been trained and brainwashed from an early age; that we are not complete until we are married, in a relationship, with our soul mate, other half or "twin flame." From our families, churches, television, movies and cult leaders on UA-cam, TikToc, etc, etc, we have been taught that lie. However, we are born complete and not lacking anything in and of ourselves. We don't need another person to make us happy or whole. We don't need "another half;" because we come into this world as a whole person, from day one. Jeff and Twin Flames took advantage of vulnerable people; and profit off of them. Jeff/Twin Flames doesn't care about his followers; but only what he can get from them. Be the best whole person you can be for yourself first and foremost. You don't have to be with anyone else to be complete or fulfilled. You are not a copy. You are unique and one of a kind.
Thank you for pointing this out! I was trying to figure out why people (including myself) believe in the concept of soulmates/TFs so easily. And it’s bc we are fed that line from birth… that true love will save you… you just need to find your one true love. No wonder why these TF gurus can prey on people so easily
@@Noa77111twin flames are real! The concept has been twisted so bad that people think it’s fake, but I don’t blame them. Twin flames have nothing to do with romance, it’s not about being with a lifetime partner, it’s about being in union with yourself. It’s about trusting your intuition and going with the flow, not being afraid of doing things the average person is scared to do. When you meet a twin flame then you will know. It will actually teach you how to not be codependent and truly embody the god version of you! Your twin flame will come through in the end but it won’t be like the social constructed relationships we see everyday. The whole point of the journey is to deprogram yourself and get rid of societies beliefs. It’s about going against the grain and being who you want to be. It’s a beautiful journey, you start loving yourself so much that you are in ZEN mode. Things won’t hurt as much, it’s like becoming an spiritual master (without the narcissism ofc). YOU are your one true love! You can’t find that in anyone else. If you study science and energy then you will see that it’s definitely real.
Spot on! Most people like to look at cults and think "we aren't like this at all". But this cult only gained significant traction because of that dysfunctional belief supported by the general society
At 7 years old I felt pretty depressed about having to grow up, becaus my parents said, "Enjoy your childhood, one day we will have to give you to a man" Like wtf? Excuse me, I have my own life to live
For about 90% of this doc I was shaking my head. These poor victims. I hope for healing for all.
So many people fall prey to cults. Just look at ALL the religious people around the world.
Me too. I hope all can move on and out of this EVIL CULT.
Brilliant documentary. This couple are sick, abusive criminals. He is absolutely foul. Ive never recoiled so much listening to another human. I am stunned that anyone could stomach being anywhere near him. I hope the victims find a way out of this hell
I am currently watching and I am having a hard time finishing the documentary because of how vile they are.
Can’t feel bad for gullible cl0wns who fall for these type of things 😂..
My God so true. My words exactly. I just have a hard time forming them when my head's so full of disgust and something's so.. obviously disgusting.
I just finished watching the one Amazon prime did. How did this one Compare? if you saw the Amazon one that is.
Honestly, it's as simple as blocking and existing the group. Simple. But you'd think it was making a plan to escape prison. They actually have that type of mental hold on people.
Sue these people if you have been harmed. File a class action lawsuit for real damages. The victims deserve payment.
They can get better lawyers. Only the rich can afford justice.
Sure as if it's so easy to bring cults to justice, as if cults are not evasive and covered-up and well-connected and can buy everything off. Oh wait...
Sue them for what exactly? Having seen the documentary, I don't see how any of the former members could prove they were forced to do anything against their will. Many of them even take some of the responsibility.
@@sjd1446The problem is you can't just sue someone for manipulating you. There's no evidence in this documentary that any of the members were threatened or forced to participate. It's tragic what they're doing, but it's not illegal.
Crazy. I knew Megan/Shaleia right before she met Jeff. She wanted to go out on a date with me but I wasn't into her at all. She was nice enough but definitely an ungrounded new ager. I saw when she met Jeff on Facebook and they immediately started to brand and sell themselves as Twin Flames. I saw it slowly build up over years but I had no idea it had gotten this crazy.
God help you saved a bullet, they are both bayshyt crazy narcs
@@Solotv84 lol yeah luckily I wasn't even remotely attracted to her. We traded energy work sessions and she talked about hooking up with random guys as I remember lol
I’m glad the moms and escaped people were able to get Netflix to do this. I hope the exposure ends this!
The devil cult leader will just say that Net flicks aren’t “ divine ”
I just finished the documentary. My heart goes out everyone who’s been deceived by this couple.
Be so careful about anything trying to offer your life substance and fulfillment. A lot of new age spirituality can be dangerous. I love the idea of community never at the price of your soul.
True, new age crap is toxic most of the time...
I just saw the documentary for recommendation. I am in a TF journey since 2020 and I can say for personal experience that when you are initially so confused, so lost and your vibration is sooo low, it can be so easy to manipulate. For desperation, you start to believe in everything that can nurture your ego. Fortunately I never saw any videos of these two people before and I never fall into manipulation. I am so near with all my heart with all the people who had going through this difficult situations and all their families. Real Love never requires anything in return, or any type of physical changing , or any big amounts of moneys. Especially TF journey.
I cannot imagine looking at these two goofballs and thinking-wow they really have it together! It would be comical except that they are completely evil. To people seeking love, I say trust your family and friends that love you, not these strangers. That is what they are no matter how many online chats you've had. Stay strong.
I have just finished episode 1 and I am livid and fuming as to what I am watching.
I hope those two got done for what they have done to all those poor people.
Seriously they look and sound like morons .. how could anyone believe them yuck
Being mentally strong, stable and sometimes, stubborn and skeptic, is what keeps you away from cults.
They prey on the weak.
Spot on!
100%!!!! And trying to keep you away from family & friends is a big red flag.
Being a skeptic has gotten me far in life tbh
@@icomeinpeace3756 skepticism can also lead you to a cult if you are skeptical about reality. If you want be on the side of the actual truth, seek Jesus. Real Jesus of course. Not religion. Not jeff lol by any means.. what a sicko.
@@icomeinpeace3756 I'm appalled at the simplistic hilarity that he would think he is Jesus JUST because he looks somewhat similar to the most popular images of Jesus. The Bible clearly states: "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them." Exodus 20: 4-5
Another version of this verse which is part of the most basic 10 commandments on the Bible (and here I'll share 3/10 of the commandments):
Exodus 20: 3-7 NLT
3“You must not have any other god but me.
4 “You must not make for yourself an idol of any kind or an image of anything in the heavens or on the earth or in the sea. 5 You must not bow down to them or worship them, for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God who will not tolerate your affection for any other gods. I lay the sins of the parents upon their children; the entire family is affected-even children in the third and fourth generations of those who reject me. 6 But I lavish unfailing love for a thousand generations on those[b] who love me and obey my commands.
7 “You must not misuse the name of the Lord your God. The Lord will not let you go unpunished if you misuse his name.
then you can find this quote from wikipedia: "In a number of places the ancient texts assert that God has no shape or form and is utterly incomparable; thus no idol, image, idea, or anything in creation could ever capture God's essence."
Jeff is a fool.
I’m glad I seen this on Netflix. I realized I was not the only one who was put into an abusive relationship told they were my twinflame and the abuse was my fault and I had to heal it and do the mirror exercise. I was in the group and I want to tell yall they are a cult as a former member of the group
I left this group today
@@nickolassmith8759 I'm happy for you! You did the right thing by leaving. May God bless you.
@@nickolassmith8759 Great!!! All the best to you!
You are brave! Congrats!
As a Mother I am so so happy to hear this. I'm hoping to see and read more of this.Just praying for 1 person at management level to leave so others will follow.
That couple are the biggest scammers! They should be in prison! Jeff in particular is scary. Notice that his wife slowly becomes less and less assertive and Jeff even degrades her the way he speaks about forcing sex on her. They’re sick! Jeff is a criminal!
I noticed that too! Even indirectly called her fat and ugly
Like????
Omg totally agree. From the get go, I thought they were an odd couple and I don't believe he actually loves her.
From the outside, these cult leaders are so uncharismatic, so unconvincing, and so obviously pulling a con. People are so desperate to find love and community and preying on that universal urge is beyond despicable.
How can you fall for these two? I can’t comprehend it. Just look at them. Do they look like they’d have the secret to true love? Lmao.
Exactly. I watched the documentary and I can't believe anyone would take these two idiots seriously.
They look so nasty 😂
They would say the most random things and people would believe every word 😅
EXACTLY !
You can fall for anything if you are healing from trauma or brainwashed that you had one. I don't trust the channeling, coaching, healers (scientology also have that on their agenda) so please be sceptical. They know they stuff. It's on military level psychology (hypnosis-hypno-selfhypnosis). Beware.
This was a good documentary. It’s sad that vulnerable, lonely people were taken advantage of by these sociopaths. I can’t wait for justice to be served, and karma to bring them down. What total insanity.
Its very easy to portray people as evil. Ive followed these guys from the start. They arent evil. They teach similar to what most TF coaches are . Sure theyve made mistakes who hasnt but it isnt deliberate manipulation. They created a community and provided courses. Got full of themselves for sure but they are good people with a lot of amazing teachings. And some of their teachings definitely are a miss. So discernment is KEY for anyone on the spiritual path. The TF journey IS challenging and impossible to understand for non spiritual people. We really gonna fall into the old witch hunting again?? We know Netflix docos are very commonly used to demonise people and discredit genuine movements that certains powers want to control and destroy. Twin flames ARE very powerful and this really an attack on the twin flame journey not Jeff and Shaleia. They are just being used as a convenient scapegoat... cant believe people are falling for these witch hunts 🙄🙄🙄🤦♀️🤦♀️
@@sarebear5207
I have watched their vids and the two of them speaking, and listened to their “doctrine”, and they are complete idiots. This is nothing to do with a “portrayal” the evidence speaks for itself. You’re brainwashed, and therefore lacking clear judgement. My discernement is fine, and I am a spiritual being. I can just recognize cult tactics and behaviour when I see them. I hope you get help.
@@sarebear5207 blink twice if you need help
Where can I watch the documentary for free?
@sarebear5207 you sound like a victim
I too fell for this whole twin flame journey so happy this is getting exposed.
I m so sorry you experienced this.i hope you re ok now.sending you support. ❤
Oh my that were able to get so many. The doc didn't mention it but I suspect there must have been a surge in participants during the pandemic
you look beautiful..... I get the feeling you'll have no problem finding your twin flame
@@ZRN29ur a freak of nature
I was in this group too they had me in an abusive relationship
A lot of pontificating in the comments. “Wow, these people are so stupid, I would never fall for that.” It’s easy to judge. Many cult members are highly educated, but our hardwired need for connection, community and love can lead people to ignore all warning signs. Humans need a tribe like bees need a hive. Add some trauma, loneliness and idealism in the mix, and you’re on the Cult Express.
Join a book club, gym or start a healthy group for people who want to connect on a sane level. Why join a group of controlling narcissistic, who only want to take your money and advantage of you. If people are that desperate to belong that they're willing to give up all sense of self-preservation then they are stupid.
"I hate when people confuse education with intelligence. You can have a bachelor's degree and still be an idiot."
Exactly. This is what all cult research shows - that none of us are immune. Thinking we are actually makes us more vulnerable. Keeping connected with our loved ones and not being cut off from our support systems does have a protective effect.
This documentary gets crazier and crazier by the minute.
It’s insane.
And/or if because blatently fake and/or another colonial smear campaign, as usual?
the craziest thing to me is how these cults are still able to operate because the law can't find anything against them. Proving that someone else has manipulated your thoughts and coerced you into acting against your own free will is incredibly difficult.
I hope they end up in jail soon. How could you use people in crisis for thier own benefit? That is sick and horrible!!!
Its very easy to portray people as evil. Ive followed these guys from the start. They arent evil. They teach similar to what most TF coaches are . Sure theyve made mistakes who hasnt but it isnt deliberate manipulation. They created a community and provided courses. Got full of themselves for sure but they are good people with a lot of amazing teachings. And some of their teachings definitely are a miss. So discernment is KEY for anyone on the spiritual path. The TF journey IS challenging and impossible to understand for non spiritual people. We really gonna fall into the old witch hunting again?? We know Netflix docos are very commonly used to demonise people and discredit genuine movements that certains powers want to control and destroy. Twin flames ARE very powerful and this really an attack on the twin flame journey not Jeff and Shaleia. They are just being used as a convenient scapegoat... cant believe people are falling for these witch hunts 🙄🙄🙄🤦♀️🤦♀️
@@sarebear5207these guys have blood sticking on their hands, women have committed suicide due to their cult. Those people are dangerous, stop making them seem harmless.
This is not a witch-hunt, if many people have evidence and claims of their abusive and manipulative/coercive control tactics, then they are surely not innocent. You don’t have to be spiritual to understand narcissism and abuse. And they are making a clear portrayal of the people, if they were so good and great you would not have so many people who would have left the cult.
@@VYVEVideography There isn't any evidence in this documentary. Jeff does go on some verbally abusive tirades, but he never makes any threats. It seems the only real fear that the members have is of, ironically, being kicked out of the cult.
This is so sick. People mixing love and possession. True love is who you are. No one in the world can ever love you as much as you love you. Real love is inside of you.
Jesus literally healed my heart for free when I called out his name and asked him to forgive me. Peace and salvation are a free gift that was given to us when Jesus died for our sins.
From the beginning of my TF journey, I never felt this couple was a genuine twin couple...ever. just didn't feel right
It is really sad how desperate people are to find a partner. These people were willing to pay thousands, some even tens of thousands of dollars, move in with total strangers, and even change their gender via surgery and treatments all for the idea that they will be with someone.
I listened to a podcast about this cult about a year ago. It's called Twin Flames. It was fascinating and disturbing at the same time. All the best to the people who escaped this wacko belief system.
It is called "Twin Flame Universe".
"Twin Flames" is a term used in spiritual contexts like kundalini, chakras, soul, or whatever thing not visible with the 5 senses. So It's a cult that uses (or misuses) that term, the term in itself has not a negative or positive connotation.
the phenomenon of twin flames is real. it´s a spiritual phenomenon. Twin flames universe is a company, they are people making money with this. They just misuse the term twin flames, they tell people that everyone has a tf and that anyone can go and search for this.
You are wrong, don’t generalize that is all a cult, they are a cult. Is not a belief system either, if you haven’t lived it don’t say is a system because is not. Do some research about twin flames .
@heather4089 I know what twin flames are, but I'm not referring to the term in its original sense. The term has been appropriated by this cult and has done damage to a lot of people.
@@heather4089research? There's no research, there's just noise. Millions of incoherent ramblings, sometimes walls of text copied and pasted into affirmation style memes, random blogs never maintained since the late 2000s, scammers, predators and all of that rolled into one on sites like quora.
It's just one concept of many hundreds, all attempts to unify all philosophical questions into one theory and provide solace through confusion. If you're lost, you're vulnerable, and if you're a believer, you're even more lost.
I remember when i started on the twin flame path, i was very vulnerable and desperate. It was more than about love, it was about feeling whole and truly loving myself. I grew up with very strong beliefs and faith. I just needed a way to regain the faith that i lost. When i came upon Jeff and Shaleia, everytbing in my core was telling me to not follow them. I saw some videos they had and boy, was i right to turn away. The feeling i got watching them was not what i needed. I felt they are so dilusional and greedy. I do thank the twin flame label for putting me back on the right track with regaining my faith BUT i will say that following the twin flame movement religiously hindered me for a bit. If people are going to look into new spiritual movements, please do it with a grain of salt.
@@Starlight245then what to do if we are in twin flame journey because I love my dm a lot ...if we shouldn't follow them then what to do for union
Yeah similar for me Altho I did use the mirror technique and that was fab actually just knew something was off with them more and more as I watched the ppl in the group and their posts. They didn’t invent the mirror technique
@@ExplorewithSarahlouise hey ...is the mirror exercise actually work or not .. should I do the exercise or not please tell me ..
@@Introvertanjali I think it’s a great tool in the toolkit of seeint how you create your reality. For example ‘Jon makes me feel small and it makes me angry.’ Flip to ‘ I make myself feel small and it makes me angry’ sit and meditate with this and accept it etc
@@Introvertanjali they didn’t invent this they took it from someone else
I think it's sad. I visited some videos from TWU. None have a thumbs down. This Netflix trailer has 93 thumbs down. What is wrong with people? Everyone should be thankful there are documentaries like this. But apparently people like to get screwed.
Maybe the "thumbs down" means they "don't" support the cult.
I’m sure the thumbs down might be from the people blindly following them soon enough they too will wake up.
Channels can choose to not show dislikes, thats all it is
Because these are colonial propoganda against truth, regardless?
This is making me more and more convinced that high quality therapy and therapists should be a human right and available to everyone free of charge. People are not well and theyre having trouble managing their lives or their emotions. We are a doomed species if mental health issues arnt addressed.
Was a most damaging thing to see as a true twin, the journey is hard enough as it is without people like this causing more confusion. Divine twins are here to heal, not use their power to abuse people. Telling people who their twin is like matchmakers was beyond me. If you're on the journey, you will be awakened by God as per your soul contract. It's scary, intense and serious deep soul work to align the energies of one soul in two bodies. Those not on the journey won't understand. Love to all of the twins on the journey, we need you. Justice will be served. 🧿
You have to stop telling people lies. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS TWIN FLAMES. THERE IS NO AWAKENING FROM GOD AND NO ENERGIES TO ALIGN! Stop spreading lies or you'll have to answer them before the real God.
Twin flames are demonic. All this new age stuff is terrible. Be very careful and look for christ. You will be surprised how many demons are taking advantage of this stuff(and are most likely hiding within you)
@@Mamzellex03😂 you need to calm down.
@@krisfisher5404 😂 I'm tired of hearing bull about energies and stuff..
@Mamzellex03 Apologies, I meant no offence. It's the straw that breaks the camel's back that makes us crack 😄
I think the one thing we can all agree on is that there is something there that is bigger than ourselves, whether we identify that with God, love as an energy, Allah, Buddha, Christ, Krishna, whatever. It all leads to the same thing.. love. Keep your ❤️ open.
There are so many like jeff and shaleia in the world with different languages! This happens after 2020
Just watched the Amazon Prime one. Cults are everywhere, and they know just how to reach, exploit, and abuse the vulnerable. SMH
Have you seen the Netflix one? Is it different?
Its very easy to portray people as evil. Ive followed these guys from the start. They arent evil. They teach similar to what most TF coaches are . Sure theyve made mistakes who hasnt but it isnt deliberate manipulation. They created a community and provided courses. Got full of themselves for sure but they are good people with a lot of amazing teachings. And some of their teachings definitely are a miss. So discernment is KEY for anyone on the spiritual path. The TF journey IS challenging and impossible to understand for non spiritual people. We really gonna fall into the old witch hunting again?? We know Netflix docos are very commonly used to demonise people and discredit genuine movements that certains powers want to control and destroy. Twin flames ARE very powerful and this really an attack on the twin flame journey not Jeff and Shaleia. They are just being used as a convenient scapegoat... cant believe people are falling for these witch hunts 🙄🙄🙄🤦♀️🤦♀️
@@sarebear5207i agree that due to them people no longer believe in Twin Flames however to diminish what they’ve done, they’re not innocent, they’ve got blood on their hands!! Yes, they had some ounce of remorse and empathy in them somewhere in their life, but that doesn't mean they should go unpunished and get away with continuing to ruin more lives.
I just finished watching this on Netflix, the way Jeff controlled and manipulated the followers was super dangerous and scary. The way everyone wanted to be on their good side and soo terrified to disobey them was bizzare and crazy. Whole time watching this I asked myself how are all these people who were academically good and intellectuals be buying these couple bullcrap delusions when they had no credentials of psychology or any background on handling a community. I guess us as 3rd party observer, you don't know how the victims felt unless we were in their shoes. We immediately feel and see the creepiness this "cult" possessed their powers over financial gain. I feel soo sorry for the families who were cut off from their loved ones, especially the mothers on this show. I hope this shows blows up and ruin their scheme, went on stalking mode and the TFU is still up and running which is ridiculous!
funny how their UA-cam channel has the comments and thumbs down turned off........ Only a cult would stop the critics this way.....
I am glad this doco can shed light on their mistruths and the harm it has caused to maybe stop others from getting involved.
I feel so bad for their daughter. Wow. She’s going to grow up nuts
My fight or flight response is kicking on just from looking into their soulless eyes.
Anyone else find it strange the lack of dads willing to be on the doc for their lost kids? It’d have been interesting to get their perspective
I’ve always been a bit of a dreamer, so it was easy for me to get caught up in the whole “twin flame” idea. For a while, I genuinely believed in it-there were so many “signs,” like seeing orbs, angel numbers, and I even started channeling "spirits". But all of that faded when I finally stepped away from that mindset. Thankfully, I feel more grounded now as I’ve gotten older. I just hope younger people have the guidance and awareness to avoid falling into that kind of trap.
I can’t even watch the whole thing, my heart goes out to those who were manipulated during their most vulnerable times. I’m praying you guys completely heal from these monsters and all your dreams come true.
Desperation is such a powerful resource. You can get ANYTHING and EVERYTHING out of someone if you catch them at their lowest and effectively prey on their desperation. Desperation for love. Desperation for answers. Desperation for hope. Desperation to be understood. It's how religions do it. It's how political parties do it. It's how militaries do it. It's how gangs do it. It's how cults do it. Same strategy across the board.
Just getting to finally watch this. Saw the one on Prime. I hope federal agencies take action or laws are passed to protect those followers. I predicted years ago this cult is going to start attracting predators.
You didn't ''predict'' anything lmao. This cult does not ''attract'' predators, it was started by such in the first place
Its very easy to portray people as evil. Ive followed these guys from the start. They arent evil. They teach similar to what most TF coaches are . Sure theyve made mistakes who hasnt but it isnt deliberate manipulation. They created a community and provided courses. Got full of themselves for sure but they are good people with a lot of amazing teachings. And some of their teachings definitely are a miss. So discernment is KEY for anyone on the spiritual path. The TF journey IS challenging and impossible to understand for non spiritual people. We really gonna fall into the old witch hunting again?? We know Netflix docos are very commonly used to demonise people and discredit genuine movements that certains powers want to control and destroy. Twin flames ARE very powerful and this really an attack on the twin flame journey not Jeff and Shaleia. They are just being used as a convenient scapegoat... cant believe people are falling for these witch hunts 🙄🙄🙄🤦♀️🤦♀️
I just wanna say Thank you to Netflix, Prime Video, all the mothers, family, friends, and everyone involved for these documentaries and for shedding light on the TRUE intentions of these individuals.
I believe in Twin flame/ soulmate connection and the power of manifestations and Law of attraction, unfortunately there’s always gonna be negative people hindering your journey. I’ve learned to stay true to myself, knowing who i am and relying on my intuition, if it doesn’t feel right, don’t do it 👍🏾👍🏾👌🏾👌🏾
God Bless everyone and I truly believe these people WILL get what they deserve!!!!
So if you believe in this ''law of attraction'', do you believe that victims of war, hunger, r*e, abuse, illness, genocide, violence, injustice ''attracted'' that into their lives? Hmm? Do I deserve my chronic illness, did I ''wish'' for it? Did we Ukrainians ask for this damn war? Did we ''attract'' all those horrible atrocities and losses? DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE IN? This law of attraction is business, it's essentially a cult, only less obvious and horrible as the one below. It's CRUEL, naive and simplistic to believe that everyone gets what they ''attract'' into their lives, that's not how it works. Life is so much more complicated and unfair than that. Your rose-tainted glassess WILL fall off eventually.
The way the families of these people that get victimized must feel! If that couple really cared about anyone they would never encourage people to stop talking to their families. This is the first thing cult leaders do!
So sad for the moms who lost their kids to this cult. This is why parents should monitor their children’s internet activity!
No kids in this cult, they are all adults.
Would personally say it’s not necessarily about monitoring their activity, more so how important it is to teach them how to protect themselves from people who would prey on their vulnerability.
This is unrealistic in our day and age though, do you expect parents to drop everything and follow their kids on the Internet ALL THE TIME? Think! There should be more education on internet safety, it's true.
@@magickodaly_ Right, well said. I bet that many of the victims' parents did their best to guide and protect their children though.
@@catrobinson6282she said “moms” have lost their kids. Whether that be 20 year old or up they’re still their moms kids
I been trying to "avoid" to the people who came to their YT channel - they still are active- and deleted all my comments! Its obviously many people doesnt watch the serie on Netflix...they are so needed to fund answers... its so sad...
I tried to enlighten many people. The answer I got was. Netflix is "mainstream". People are already so divided. And the mainstream always tries to denigrate spiritual things. I personally believe in Twin Flames, but you have to learn to differentiate. Even if many exercises are good, there can still be an evil force behind them. Many spiritual people don't realise that.
I see spiritual coaches on Facebook every day who just want to make money. Hardly anyone there realises it either.
With the amount of evidence this series has uncovered, it’s mind boggling that this cult is still operating…
The problem with all modern day spirituality is it’s been taken over by materialism click funnels and greed it didn’t used to be like that 10 years ago but ppl realise it’s an easy way to exploit vulnerable ppl at the start of their journey who don’t know what’s going on.
what do you mean it didn't used to be like that 10 years ago? there has been a lot of successful cults in the 60s, 70s too, before internet click funnels
@@FruityHachi cults but the majority of ppl in spirituality genuinely wanted to help 10/20 years ago. Like eckhart Tolle like him or not he had a story and he shared it in a £10 book. Money came after the wantint to share. Now ppl are awake for like 5 days and thinking how to monetise it it’s very different to me
@@ExplorewithSarahlouise you say that the majority of spiritual gurus wanted to help but you only provided 1 name, that does not equal majority
unless you have actual data statistics you cannot claim it was the majority
maybe you surrounded yourself with a few gurus and it gave you the impression that it's the majority, when in reality there has been more than just a few gurus, and you also need to count gurus in other countries as well
@@ExplorewithSarahlouise also, keep in mind that money is not the only way how spiritual gurus can take advantage of others
they could just want power and control over people's minds, their time, their relationships etc.
@@FruityHachi sure but I notice the money thing Lately, cults have never rly bothered me that much as never fallen for them, in fact, I’ve even gotten useful stuff from them,. For example, I took the mirror exercise from this but didn’t want to engage any further, whereas I feel like I can’t even attend a workshop or an event without a bunch of people trying to shill their service they’ve done for about two weeks these days I find it more exhausting to be honest.
He’s crazy, and she’s just a step behind him. How in the world would anyone follow this dude?
Aint nobody gonna talk about Marlee ? She was 19 and they put her to date a guy with mental illness and criminal record, she looked very scared and uncomfortable the whole time
There’s nothing beautiful, healthy and/or romantic about a twin soul/flame connection. Also, no one has the power to guide you to it but YOU. It takes learning who you truly are and loving, nurturing and supporting your self. Once you do, you will find you don’t ‘need’ anyone to “complete” you, but this is when you will feel/be the most “attractive” and I’m not meaning looks wise. ☮️❤️☀️
I will NEVER understand the CULT of marriage or having to be with someone attached to your ass to be happy. At almost 63 years of age, I have absolutely LOVED my single life and the great power that comes from it ! Love YOURSELF !!!
Judging people for wanting a partner at your age is a coping mechanism.
Romantic partnership is innate and a part of every society since the beginning of man kind.
@@WilliamsPinchIt isn’t actually. Men thrive in partnerships, women, the opposite, if you’re going purely by life expectancy
@@WilliamsPinch if you read her comment well and not read into it, you will see that she is saying that she doesn’t understand why people have to seek happiness in another person. And that society teaches us that we are worthless and we will never be happy unless we’re tied to another person. i’ve known of many people in my lifetime, including myself that were in relationships only because we were fearful of being lonely. Even though the person sucked the lives out of us. we should be happy as single people and strive to be happy as individuals before we actually meet someone else. and honestly, we should still strive to be happy on our own even if we’re partnered with someone.
As an Indian my blood boils to see this.. These filthy cons use all the new agey symbolism which are actually cultural appropriation from the profound spiritual practices of Hinduism and India. They then use this to deceive innocent people to join a cult. Such a shame!
Attention seeker wh*re entered the chat 💀🔥🙌
Love a good cult doc
Me too its my favourite
me three its all I want to see @@kiarapillay5908
Cults are fascinating. And they need to be exposed and have eyes on them.
Netflix's bread and butter
Watched many cult docs, and those 2 are by far the least charismatic cult leaders, who don't even try to hide their true intention, which is making money. Amazing how so many people got fooled by those psychopathic clowns.
I am SOO scared for their baby girl…
It's amazing how people are so controllable.
I mean look at covid right
Not the same thing, man.
@@natsdaley9615You took the words directly out of my mouth!!!! I'm SO GLAD you said this!! It was my first and immediate thought!! 🎯🎯🎯
@@lolarew6752It's definitely the same thing. In fact, it's exactly the same thing, but worse. Maybe you're a fan of muzzles though?
The people who are judging everyone saying omg how could u fall for this are the ones who were at the throats of people saying 1 year isnt enough for clinical trials and we do not trust this jab. Those people were calling sensible skeptical people conspiracy theorists bec they were coerced and controlled bh news media owned by the pharma giants. Same people who can't imagine companies and government leaders could be corrupt and infact bullied their own brethren bec they were told what to think by their ' owners' so yeah it is exactly the same.
How are Twin Flames not canceled and blocked yet is mindblowing to me.
You know you're dealing with a cult when somebody claims to be Jesus.
I have never encountered anything like this. I remember years ago when I had one of my spiritual awakening and heard about twin flames for the first time how I used to read comments and whatnot about people who were desperate to find their twin flames, and found it so scary to see how they truly believed that the twin flame connection is some sort of ultimate human related romance.
As I have already met my Twin Flame, for anyone who EVER has hoped or has hopes that this experience is some Notebook shit, let me tell you it isn't. It is probably the most difficult experience if you are very stuck into believing what I just said, or have an anxious or avoidant emotional attachment style, or has suffered from abandonment or emotional codependency. It will turn you upside down, and inside out to the point where you have to face yourself. And in itself it is a blessing, yet if you are not ready...
Thank you so much for your comment. People are delusional and are romanticising something which is soul crushing. It’s very complex, and it isn’t a romantic connection. It’s more about healing and growing. It’s a traumatising experience.
The truth is you don't SEEK your twinflame. You and your twinflame will find one another when and if you're suppose to. The problem is people don't have discernment. The truth will always resonate. You can't force something that isn't.
@@n.b.0212 well said... It happens when and if it's supposed to happen, and you don't even need to know the term twin flame for it to happen, and you definitely don't need to be wanting or seeking a relationship.
💯. It’s not something anyone wants. It’s the most heartbreaking experience ever to go through and so very painful and you won’t know what it is and go searching for answers bc it’s so spiritually crazy with the signs and awakening and you’re seriously afraid. Finding the community in general of others who went through it really helped me to be ok and not think I was going crazy and that it was real and others were ok too. Unfortunately groups like in this documentary take advantage of those in a vulnerable space to rope them into their cult. Very scary. I had a lot of discernment though. They once tried to tell me my tf wasn’t the real one that if I paid thousands for a coaching they could attract them for me and that’s when I was like yea no, I know what I experienced and saw right through it.
Oh, how right you are. If only most people knew, they'd be fine with never meeting theirs lol.
Your comment is so relatable that I can only hope your own journey is easier than mine 😆 (jk, of course it's not * insert "we're all in this together" HSM meme *). Been doing this dance for 20 years and although it seems done every time we part ways... surprise mf! Nope! At this point I kinda wish the Universe would just speed up my twin's side of things so the lessons can be learned a bit more equally because IT'S EXHAUSTING.
Although, and again you're spot on, nothing ever has made me face myself work on myself (shadow, core wounds, dark nights of the soul - must be my 5th or 6th by now, hold myself accountable and propel me forward) like my twin. Silver lining, I guess. But damn, it fcking hurts 😔
Good luck to us all on that journey 😂🫂
I had no idea this existed but I just watched the documentaries. It is almost unbelievable the amount of power and money they were able to gather, since both of them are very sick people. Not only do they display a lot of psychiatric symptoms, they genuinely believed their own lies at some point, what also indicates how sick they really are and that they are unable to realize the damage they do, or they do but choose to ignore, which makes it even worse. None of them are in any way qualified to give psychological advice or to train anybody in any way whatsoever, and the most infuriating thing is that they were screaming out loud how much they were actually selfishly using the continuous work of their followers to keep on their financial goals, without even trying to cover it, and yet, many of their followers chose, after a long period of psychological abuse and manipulation, to continue to be active within the group. It is heartbreaking how all of those people needed psychological/ psychiatric help to begin with and therefore were easy targets. They should not even be allowed to be parents, and the fact they are still not being found accountable for the cruelty, dehumanizing, abuse, manipulation and in many degrees enslaving of many innocent people is beyond word. Such crimes should not go unpunished, including not helping a suicidal member of their group. Nice job Netflix for bringing this to light, we hope that there is justice for the victims.
Your soo right! Thanks for posting! These 2 ppl feed of of peer pressure too.
I disagree. They never believed their shit, it was a money scam all along
@@dawnwilliams2181 exactly!
Doesn't this replicate Scientology?
This isn’t twin flame, it’s karmic flame, it’s when they manipulate you, and it’s difficult
Very simple, when people tell you what you should think or feel, you are being manipulated.
I remember when i had a spiritual awakening and started to know about twin flames i found this two. But they kick me out of the group bc 3 days on it i saw their bs 😂
He showed his ferrari and money everywhere and then be like you need to loose your ego to find your twin 😂 that guy is narcisist bastard 😂 she s just like him too
@@violette010it is real. But it’s about self growth, not romance. This group is totally unrelated
@@violette010its real but real tf help you they dont ask you money
I already thought so...they have such negative energy! I knew they were scammers! I am glad this is out!!! Be careful of those milking you for money for the sake of your twinflame or for any person you love or obsessed with!!
What a great business model: promise a group of women they'll find love and when they don't, make half the group turn into men and pair them up with the other half lol. Scary crazy stufd
Omg it literally is so obvious but none of them are noticing
in 2020, I thought I met my “twin flame”. In my opinion people abuse this label as “your other half or “the love of your life” when its the exact opposite. i would consider a twin flame would be a person who “stirs shit up” on the inside. They are meant to reflect what you truly want in yourself. the whole part of the journey is the journey to SELF. not needing the other persons validation. im thankful for this person showing up in my life and it pains me that they left but ive shown, whomever is meant for me will be. I consider my TF situation majority of a trauma bond/limerance. Again the whole part of the journey is self love. Ive learned to let this person go and be okay to sit still in my own presence. Ive came across Jeffs videos throughout the years but didnt pay much attention to it because it cost alot of $.
Sounds like karma to me. I don't believe in the cult twin flame universe. But when I met my twin, I knew. Not, could be. As long as you think that way, he's not. We're also together now. He is and was what I always imagined my second part to be. Before him, I didn't want a relationship with a man. Before him, I was never desperate. It was a hard road and I still have work to do. But my loyalty paid off.
@@bunteseinhorn7523 good for you! that your with your person. Im conciously choosing myself because in the end i know my twin will never choose me. id rather a soulmate. Too much pain from this guy lol
Preach! It’s exactly what is is. There’s definitely a spiritual aspect to it, but free will is involved and the main goal isn’t to end up with the so called “counterpart”.
I never desired a TF connection because it entails suffering. We all have a choice and I choose to my self work and attract my soulmate or someone I can catch a good vibe with on this journey.
Being born into a world where in order for you to survive something has to die…including a plant, is suffering enough. I’m not signing up for nothing extra😅
As an Indian my blood boils to see this.. These filthy cons use all the new agey symbolism which are actually cultural appropriation from the profound spiritual practices of Hinduism and India. They then use this to deceive innocent people to join a cult. Such a shame!
I’ve watched their videos on yt when I was heavy on the tf journey, but I had no clue all of this was going on. I actually believed in them & their “union” WOW
How? You could see the BS.
@@lolarew6752 I just watched a few of their videos. This was years ago. They wasn’t saying anything different from any other tf coaches & content at the time. I didn’t know anything about the university & the cult.
@@Risha-Renebut twin flame as a concept is ridiculously stupid, how do u buy into that? ....same thing as soul mate....there is no such a thing as one perfect partner for anyone....because then if one person picks the wrong partner, the whole eco system is done
Damn, and their whole program are master manipulators! Don’t feel bad!
Its very easy to portray people as evil. Ive followed these guys from the start. They arent evil. They teach similar to what most TF coaches are . Sure theyve made mistakes who hasnt but it isnt deliberate manipulation. They created a community and provided courses. Got full of themselves for sure but they are good people with a lot of amazing teachings. And some of their teachings definitely are a miss. So discernment is KEY for anyone on the spiritual path. The TF journey IS challenging and impossible to understand for non spiritual people. We really gonna fall into the old witch hunting again?? We know Netflix docos are very commonly used to demonise people and discredit genuine movements that certains powers want to control and destroy. Twin flames ARE very powerful and this really an attack on the twin flame journey not Jeff and Shaleia. They are just being used as a convenient scapegoat... cant believe people are falling for these witch hunts 🙄🙄🙄🤦♀️🤦♀️
Jeff is one of the creepiest guys, what an extremely disturbing person and his partner too, taking advantage of vulnerable, lonely people. Would be happy to see them put away for life and take accountability for being total creeps - Well made documentary calling out these criminals - I felt physically ill watching these two cult leaders speak it's literally a thriller/horror. Absolute bs teachings, so horrific! Put them away!!
I see they turned off their comments on their UA-cam channel 😂
I’m blown away! Sad all lives being destroyed by this man. Since nothing criminal is proven yet the one that worked for him could technically file a class action civil suit for sexual harassment. He preys on the young and vulnerable. The only way to hurt this narcissist is to hit his bank account.
Boycott
We Want MINDHUNTER Season 03. Please Netflix
YEESSSSS!!
Yes
Please!
People, learn about narcissistic behaviours and how to recognize them, especially about the Machiavellian Narcissists, who has no fear of consequences, including rules and laws.
Learn to discern between the honest expression and manipulation.
Heal on your own, at home, in silence, in deep listening in, so you never fall prey of the predators.
That knowledge will be important in the coming years. Learn, so you can love truly, starting with yourself.✨
Ostatnio ogladałam mnóstwo filmów dokumentalnych o sektach. I statystcznie widzę, że w dużej mierze to właśnie amerykanie , są tak zagubieni, tak samotni aby wejść, przystąpić i uwierzyć w SEKTĘ. To dobry pomysł na badania socjologiczne.
Dlaczego jeden naród jest bardziej podatny na kontrolę przez jednostek względem innych?
There is a large German Facebook group. There are also 4 of their coaches in Austria. Of course there are many Americans, it's a big country. But the books have been translated into several languages. So make no mistake.
The way that cities are designed in the United States keeps people apart. Our cities are not designed to create close-knit communities.
Also, a lot of the first settlers/colonizers were a bunch of religious nut-bags/crazy people.
These aren’t the only reasons, but they could be contributing factors.
every country can have cults, but you're right, the usa has more cults than other countries have, there are a lot of online articles about why so many cults are formed in the usa , so check out if you're interested ♡
@@sweetmoni8561 the usa has a lot of cults,more than other countries, and it's not because the country is big because a lot of big counties like russia,china,brazil, canada don't have a lot of cults.
I honestly think it's because America runs more on the individualistic mindset rather than collectivist orientation values. You can think of it as two sayings: America - "Pull yourself up from your bootstraps" vs. Non- capitalist countries: " It takes a village to raise a child". I think a large number of Americans may be out for themselves and those that need the support system (family, friends, neighbors, etc) during the toughest times can fall victim to cults bc cults lead people to believe that "they will always be there for you"
I just watched it. It made me sad to see how far humans can go to find a partner and how disgusting some people are taking advantage of them. Parents, take care of your children: no one can “steal them” from you if you loved them from their early years .
Traditional boring hardcore family roles are so destroyed right now, father's were the ones who slapped reality into our minds and mother's used nurturing to show the world is so warm and beautiful. Attention, concern respect are all smashed into bits. And what's funny people disrespect themselves and other's so casually as if everyone gets out of it without any scars
The fact that people still support and protect their actions in different instagram pages disappoints reality of people believing narcissists we all need help man very frustrating this 😢
I lost my best friend of 13 years because of this.
Sooo sad!
Wtf did I just watch?! Seriously surprised NXIUM 2.0 is allowed to thrive in Leelaneau County. Thank you to all who spoke out to bring light to these predator scammers. Hope they end up sharing a cell with Bronfman and Raniere.
I'm fascinated how people fall in this trap and they are not stupid at all. How they are brain washed, I don't get it. As someone who as an immigrant had a hard and tough life and many other obstacles from infertility to loss of close family members and not to be able to be for them at that moment. I never complained to my best friends or anyone, but to believe some stranger, sorry but my European mentality can't ever understand that. When you are working so hard and fighting for survival you don't believe in some online crap, plus those guys look so creepy.
you act like there are no cults in Europe and this only happens in America…
They have Degrees. Whew, Common Sense is Hard to come by & it's FREE
I think the reason of all these is because they usually have these traits:
-So immature, they are usually so young
- mind already brain washed by religion, USA is a very religious country, it’s easy for them to be involved in this crazy stuff
- emotionally unstable
-problematic lives
@@FortheLoveofMonsters There are, but cults has almost became an industry in US, backed by the massive new-age bs industry. It shows how lonely, desperate and mentally unstable US society is. Of course, buying assault rifles and committing massacres is an other indicator for that.
It’s easy to fall when you are at your most vulnerable, and typically if you are going through a spiritual awakening or rebirth. It’s so easy to swoop in and for someone to pretend to be your spiritual saviour. The truth being the only true saviour is Jesus Christ. Nobody else can live up to the feeling of having his love sanctify your heart. 💜
It is amazing how people can take spiritual concepts and twist them into a cult (hint-happens all the time, has happened for thousands of years). I figured out pretty quickly that Jeff and Shaleia were false, but I never dreamed it would evolve into this level of toxicity.
"He's gay, he's with another man"
"Keep chasing him anyway" 😂😂😂😂
What is so sad is that people could achieve the same level of community by joining a book club or a soccer team 😢.
“So many people are lonely but not willing to make the first move”
These cults are just fighting over these weak and venerable people. It’s so sad.
Or a bar! Thats how you meet your flame!
It's disgusting what these two do, I hope they pay for their actions.
I can see how people can be easily manipulated ! Its so sad to watch this…
Listen people…with love. ❤ YOU ARE your true love. At your core you are divine masculine and feminine energy.
Nothing completes you as you are already whole. You lack nothing. Self love, compassion, acceptance, and a 🤏🏽 independent research would trump all of this madness.
I don’t like seeing “Twin Flame” used to dupe people. You have to study everything for yourself.
I’ll never understand how people can be manipulated so easily.
They prey on people who have been broken and very vulnerable and been in trauma. When everything seems to confused you. Take a deep breath and pray 🙏. Play the Psalm 91 everyday . It will really helps. All of us in this world are going through different hardships but if we have faith it can move mountains. It can heal us and keep going. Just keep calling God and he will rescue you.
Yes, if you are broken, turn to God, not some idiot online...
this documentary shows how easy it is to manipulate people in the name of love. How lonely we all are and how desperate we are to feel loved. These guys should be punished to life in prison sick people playing with other people's lives just to make some money.
The worst part is they’re still operating and their social media is ACTIVE. How are so many blind to this shit? Am I living in an alternate reality?
I genuinly hope these 2 docs are the first of many more exposing material to come. It cannot stop here and forgotten about in 6 months time. Someone living close to them should hang up flyers in the entire area motivating other residents to watch both documentaries. More interviews need to happen. A TV series with Mandy Moore is currently in the makes as well. Please please let this not stop after this. Jeff and Shaleia need their so-called empire to fully crash. They deserve nothing less.
Does Mandy Moore play one of the victims? Love her acting.
What does Mandy Moore have to do with this?
@@matchamatcha101 me too literally just watched a walk to remember the other day. 💜
They need to find Jesus Christ and repent.
@@Release-the-resistance You need to SHUT UP and go preach in churches, not here.
She, co-founder, met him by asking him are you horny, online, when she was still young, thin and pretty. Now he's better looking, and she's fat and frumpy and middle-aged-hausfrau looking. Fat, if not from hormonal imbalance, is a kind of protection you put on, against the pain and insecurities you have. Methinks, husband is side-stepping and she knows.......... This was/is just a business, nothing else.
So much evil in this world... When will we wake up and see that something isn't right?!?!? Something is terribly wrong.
Jeff will eventually be caught by the IRS for not paying his taxes.
Thank you Lord for showing the true.I thought I was never see this cult falling after all the pain we went through with this spiritualists I thought no justice would ever come.
The amount of red flags here is amazing.
I AM my Twin Flame! Im glad i know this now! ❤
You can't be your Twinflame 💀
I am on my Twin Flame Journey and have been in this Facebook community for last 1.5 years. Though I didn't met my Twin there. I met him first then joined the group so casually. Never bought their course because it's too high in Indian money. I must admit that the group is helpful but have no idea what happens after buying their ascension classes but they said it so many times that You can't achieve Harmonious Twin Flame Union without joining their course. I never really cared. I just know If it's meant to be it will be.
In world so many Twin Flames come into harmonious union naturally and it's predestined.
If it's in your fate, If God wants then it's your universal right to have Twin Flame Union. Nobody can stop it ❤
Its very easy to portray people as evil. Ive followed these guys from the start. They arent evil. They teach similar to what most TF coaches are . Sure theyve made mistakes who hasnt but it isnt deliberate manipulation. They created a community and provided courses. Got full of themselves for sure but they are good people with a lot of amazing teachings. And some of their teachings definitely are a miss. So discernment is KEY for anyone on the spiritual path. The TF journey IS challenging and impossible to understand for non spiritual people. We really gonna fall into the old witch hunting again?? We know Netflix docos are very commonly used to demonise people and discredit genuine movements that certains powers want to control and destroy. Twin flames ARE very powerful and this really an attack on the twin flame journey not Jeff and Shaleia. They are just being used as a convenient scapegoat... cant believe people are falling for these witch hunts 🙄🙄🙄🤦♀️🤦♀️
@@sarebear5207 They don't "vibrate" twin flames. They're not, all they're interested in is money, that's all. There aren't one or two testimonials, there are plenty. Full $8,000 courses in twin flame coaching are simply a scandal. You can't force the TF to meet like this. Wake up! When will you understand that to be with your sacred partner you don't have to do anything but just "be". You won't get there by buying exorbitantly priced assistance packs. If you're on a path of spiritual evolution, then do what your intuition tells you to do and you'll evolve naturally towards your sacred partner. It's possible to get there without spending money on a "certified twin flame coach". If you have a desire to move towards a more sacred sexuality then go on a tantra retreat (and not push women to accept everything men want to do to them, as Jeff explains.). If you feel your inner child wants to express itself, dance and do art therapy sessions. It's by going where your heart tells you to go that you'll get closer to your sacred partner. Your heart will never tell you to go to a "certified twin flame coach". It's certainly not what your spiritual guides want you to do. Stop looking so dismayed with your smiley faces. What they're doing is very serious for people's mental health.
I totally agree. That's the real point of a TF connection.